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>implying it has to

>>2849236
>have living parents or some other family living close by to take care of kids.
Phew, thank God for them.

People have children?

>tfw no qt lb wife

>>2849250
What's a quart pound wife?

>>2849253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NeMPxB37B4

>>2849236
Only if you're a poorfag

Good. Adults don't travel, except for business.

>>2849236
Nothing to worry about. You will never have kids anyway.

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>>2849236
I have no intention of getting a house or a car, or even a girlfriend. I'm going to live with my parents until I can move to another country and then I'll spend my time travelling until I'm poor and move in with my parents again. That's the best way to live.

>>2849236
Nothing to worry about I got a vasectomy heh

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>>2849253
I don't want to derail the thread with /pol/ stuff so instead I will just laugh at your sorry ass

I unironically keep putting off a relationship because I don't want someone derailing my travel plans.

>>2851923
You didn't have to worry about derailing anything, the thread was dead in its tracks until you came along. If anything, derailment is more likely to happen now that this shit-train is back in motion.

My children have given me worlds more enjoyment and fulfillment than 10 years of traveling while visiting 87 countries did. Traveling is great, its fun, give a sense of adventure and allows you to learn to interact in situations you would not experience at home. But thats it, it doesn't give you anything deeper, no sense of meaning, or personal enrichment or anything to care about other than vainly looking for the next adventure.

Kids are great and you can travel with them (although not some of the third world shitholes while they are small) I have 4 kids with my wife (who I traveled with before kids) and with the kids we have taken 3 intercontinental trips. Its more expensive, and you have to tweak the trip with having 3 children in mind but its fine, its great seeing them take in the world for the first time.

>>2852009
>t.richfag

>>2852009
This, also dad of 4 and we still travel, it just needs a bit more planing and less adventure. Going to Machu Picchu with the entire family in February.

>mum dies n ruins credit
>sum girl w/kids tells me about a place
>lies about place to get me to leave place
>I end up helping clean her house a lil
>she kills my best friend
and so i never traveled anywhere

>>2849236
Your supposed to drop them off at relatives

>>2852113
Excuse me, but this is /pol/- I mean /trv/, islam is not allowed here.

>>2849236
>>ends your traveling life
My parents took us EVERYWHERE. They were airline employees. They used a "banana" folding stroller and rolled us right into the jetway and checked it at the door, if it didn't fit into the coat closet. They literally fed us whatever they were eating for a meal, or my brother and I split whatever. They were extra crazy about the safety of a hotel room door or glass door, because I remember them leaving a couple of times. We tended to return to the same cities for fun, repeatedly. If you're young and energetic, go for it. If you are weary and middle aged parents, always plan a down day to swim and do minimal activity on day 1 for jet lag/recovery. Or bring a poor cousin/aunt/nanny type, and get adjoining rooms. This allows for some naptime or a couple's night out. Bringing kids is better than babysitters at home, unless grandma adores them. They learn more traveling, as well as how to behave and dine well.

>>2849236
You shouldn't be legally allowed to bring children abroad on long distance flights if they're below the age of 3
>can't behave itself
>doesn't even form memories unless it's severe traumas
>takes ups space
>cries, pisses and shits itself
Save up the money, travel once the kid grows old enough to appreciate the experience

>>2852196
They put pets in the cargo hold, why not kids too.

I have a friend doing the digital nomad thing with his wife and two kids. I shit in it for a while but honestly they seem happy as shit. The kids call the shoes on locations and go to some consistent curriculum earth-fag school. The dad builds Minecraft servers for kids who live in shitholes and creates communities for them. Low key based but for what i know they could all be miserable

>>2852009
>working in a government office in my mid twenties
>my cube is next to the senior inspector for my state
>talk to him about his upcoming trip to the Caribbean, say “I’m sure your kids will have fun there as well”.
>he laughs and says “I don’t take my kids on vacation anymore, they just whine and ruin the vacation”

His kids were in high school at this point, and I remember not wanting to go on vacation with my parents, when I was a teenager as well. I just wanted to stay home and play world of Warcraft.

Taking your kids anywhere besides a kid friendly place just sounds retarded. If they want to travel, I’ll pay for their summer abroad or something, while they’re in collage. Or they can do it after school.

>>2849358
>That's the gayest way to live
ftfy

Thinking about getting a (corporate) job with an airline now that me and my wife are trying for children. It seems to me like this would eliminate most of the cost burden, no?

>>2853056
>>2853056
>would eliminate most of the cost burden
Like uhm what? Because some rock bottom call center agent gets all the free flights he wants and they even upgrade him business as the company wouldn't work without his friendly "How can I help you".

You shouldn't procreate at all buddy. Just end it.

I have a 10 month old baby and planning to travel again in early 2027. My gf isn't interested in going anywhere so once the babby is old enough that I'm not a roodypoo for leaving her alone for a couple of weeks I'm off.

Once the kid is older I'll offer to take her overseas but only IF she's genuinely interested in where I'm going.

>>2853036
Nah, I think two men living together is the gayest way to live.

>>2853025
>anymore
>teenager
There you have it. For younger kids, and I mean 10 to 12, it could be pretty fun to travel with your parents mostly because you're pretty sure you won't survive without them far from home.
As a teenager, I did really hate travel with parents unless there was some friend along with us. I remember traveling with some friends, and their parents, in my mid teens and we did behave as we were at home. The supervision wasn't as heavy mostly because they had friends in that place and were pretty much locals.
Now, if it's some resort with your parents at that age, you'd really hate the whole thing.

>>2849236
Infants are the easiest to travel with because they just shit, eat, cry and are easily amused. Toddlers are impossible to travel with

>>2852009
I hope this is true because its good cope for me. ive never travelled anywhere outside the country and have 2 kids. Trying to decide where to go with them. If you have tips or suggestions traveling with kids lmk.

>>2854605
Where are you from and how old are the kids?

>>2849236
Isn't that why they call it settling down? One is not really expected to leave home again until after the kids are gone, you retire and buy an RV in your 70s.

>>2854614
Canada. both kids are under 10, but don't need diapers.

>>2854672
So yeah you haven't traveled a lot so you might not even notice a difference.
City trips stay mostly same as alone or with a partner, you just plan less things to visit per day add some kid stops (any playground or pool will do) and for food well if you take the kids anywhere you go back home you can do the same abroad else plan accordingly. The only thing that falls flat is long club nights but it's no problem to take them to a musical or a children friendly opera.
Pro tip give them a highlight to look forward to like a theme park or water park(where you and the misses can hit the spa) day here and there and they're happy wherever you take them.

Winterpsports are perfect with a family you can even ski on your own as the kids will be in ski school from 08:30-16:00 monday to friday and take it slow on the weekend.
General sport/active holidays : there's a ton of very kid friendly hotels across europe that offer 09:00-20:00 Monday-Friday kid clubs with activities for kids aged 4-12 to be around other kids, those are great.

Flying: Make sure they have their plushy, enough entertainment and book a kids meal(99% chance that's some kind of Spaghetti or Schnitzel) while booking and you're all set.

>>2852009
The volume of antinatalist propaganda online is insane.

Have kids. It’s the purpose of life. If you don’t have kids you are a failure as a human being.

>>2852042
wat

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>>2852921
>. The dad builds Minecraft servers for kids who live in shitholes and creates communities for them.

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>>2849246
They do, we don't.

>>2854793
This is great, thanks man

>>2854848
>It’s the purpose of life. If you don’t have kids you are a failure as a human being.
No it isn't, and I say that as someone that wants to have kids some day. This is bugman talk.

>>2854848
>The volume of antinatalist propaganda online is insane.
It existed since forever. Even Pre-Socratics were skeptical about the point of having kids. It has nothing to do with antinatalism which is a subset of Utilitarianism.
>Have kids. It’s the purpose of life. If you don’t have kids you are a failure as a human being.
You can have kids but you don't need to waste your life sticking with them. Animals do it all the time. Anything from donating sperm to abandoning your kids is a fair game - it's cynical but genetics don't care.

>>2854793
That said, the most important thing kids that young don't have a language barrier. They just get along, play along and suddenly speak each others language even if it's just fragments.
They just pick it up so fast.

>>2852115
>your

>>2852118
>My parents took us EVERYWHERE.
>They were airline employees.
No shit, Sherlock.

>>2854515
>>Infants are the easiest to travel with because they just shit, eat, cry and are easily amused. Toddlers are impossible to travel with
Parents who bring screaming infants and toddlers on flights should be banned from flying. Period.

>>2854848
>>Have kids. It’s the purpose of life. If you don’t have kids you are a failure as a human being.
No, thanks. I enjoy living far above the poverty line.

>>2855239
This. Many people who don’t have kids idealize having them but they simply don’t realize what it takes to bring them up especially when if you don’t at least try you may end up having your kids taken away or in jail.

>>2855238
When I was three years old I loved nothing more than a long roadtrip. Too bad my parents are both utter homebodies who hated travel and got stressed/angry over every little thing.

>>2855365
>roadtrip
We're talking about flying.

>>2855364
Fags on X are obsessed with people having children, and many slurp up that mentality not knowing how financially crippling raising children is now.
>b-b-but that's what grandparents are for!!
No.

>>2849236
> gets your priority boarding
> gets you attentive stewardesses
> gets you through TSA without problems
feels good

>>2855452
remember when my little brother screamed and cried for the entire flight back from florida to the uk when i was younger. heh.
that sure felt good.

>>2849236
Me, my wife and our then 2 year old and 2 month old travelled on a transatlantic flight with two connections with a baby buggy. It's not that hard.

As someone who only travels to Japan anyways, having a small boy it improved it in several ways. Priority boarding in airplanes, priority boarder check in Japan, hotels and breakfast free for kids, everyone treats you with extra respect, people let you sit down in packed trains, tons of chats and interactions with nice Japanese who were curious bout our kid, etc. In restaurants they sometimes put us into that "vip" room where we have space

One of the cool things about having kids is that it gives you an excuse to revisit places you've already been to and experience them from a fresh different perspective

>>2849236
hire a house wife to take your kids. The idea you have to raise your child yourself is poorfag cope. The elites do this too btw.

>>2849236
I think having children is one of the worst and dumbest things anyone on this planet could possibly do but traveling with your infants should be punishable by death
>>2854848
holy brainwashed, batman

>>2849236
You’re right.
Life becomes endlessly cleaning up other people godless fragranced shit for free. You are now qualified to be a tardy Janny.

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>>2849236
>depopulation propaganda
Getting married and having a rich man's babies made it so I can travel. You're wrong.

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>>2855651
Based