Eastern Europe. /thread

>Ireland
You wouldn't have liked it there anyway, they have all the same issues as you. The only difference is that they eat their Full Breakfast with both black and white pudding.

>>2852131
>dislikes darkies, potholes, poverty, wiggers
>wanted to move to the us or ireland
anon pls
>I basically want anywhere that is White and not the UK.
iceland maybe. do you like raw fish?
>>2852135
>Eastern Europe
most of eastern europe has at least 3 out of the 4 problems mentioned above

>>2852131
I feel you, Bongbro. I left the UK many years ago, I only visit now every 3 or 4 years. Each time I'm shocked how far it's descended. Just visited for Christmas, wtaf is with every fifth person being from Ghana now?
Anyway, post your skills and education if you want tips.

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>>2852141
Right, I forgot that degeneracy was integral to eastern European culture. My bad, OP. Looks like we're back to square one.

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>>2852149
Education is practically non-existent.
Not that I'm unable or unwilling, just that I found myself in construction after getting into a rut of low wage White collar jobs and not having the attention span for.
The good news is I'm making around £52k pre-taxes, the downside is I'm working construction which isn't easy to transfer.
That said, I can work White collar if needed just it isn't my preference.

The kicker is just that I swear every plan I have made to leave here has left me with my teeth kicked in financially or emotionally heartbroken. I have wanted to leave for so long it's basically my only goal.
>>2852137
As I said, the Irish citizenship would be more a pathway to the EU as having that ability to leave is what I'm clamouring for above all. Whilst I loved the Irish countryside when I was there, I understand that it's grim in and around Dublin, hell even in County Kildare before the BORISWAVE in the UK, there were so many blacks I was taken aback.
>>2852141
The US at least had New England and the ability to move to a White area and works with my interest, not needing to learn a new language which lowers the upfront cost of moving elsewhere gun rights, free speech etc.
At least I would have a higher quality of living, even if the food standards are grim.

>>2852155
Not having the attention span for *academia
Kek. of all the sentences to forget a word.

>>2852155
>I'm working construction
Don't lie to me now, you work with Indians, don't you? How lazy are they?

>>2852131
>the downside is I'm working construction which isn't easy to transfer

Look at eastern europe (bulgaria), working holidays in Australia, New Zealand - though those might not be much better. Basically gather all the majority white countries and see if they have routes into getting visas for your skillset. (ask perplexity "where can I move to with X construction skills that is mostly white" or something along those lines)

Another way to look at it is moving to East Asia where it's homogenous and relatively white-friendly, then finding your group of expats there.

t. bong who escaped a couple months ago to Japan

>>2852159
More Africans than anything else, Jeets of the few I've interacted with talk a lot, do very little. As do the blacks to be fair, with the Blacks being far more stupid and dangerous on average.
Ethiopians being the one exception where they're a fraction more competent, but not much smarter.
If you want to see what happens, Empire of Dust still is the go to documentary.
That's basically what most UK jobsites with Black labourers looks like these days. That said, I thankfully am not a Labourer any more.

>>2852161
With Bulgaria surely you'd want more of a "Black Card" i.e. supervisor, project manager style role, I'm only a Slinger so far which wouldn't be too hard to learn the basic phrases and do my job, but when it's 90% communication it may not be a great idea.
Coincidentally, when I went to Gdansk, there was so much slinger work there I was seething that I couldn't just hop in and join in on the works, as janky as it all looked.

>>2852155
>Education is practically non-existent.
>Not that I'm unable or unwilling, just that I found myself in construction after getting into a rut of low wage White collar jobs and not having the attention span for.
>The good news is I'm making around £52k pre-taxes, the downside is I'm working construction which isn't easy to transfer.
>That said, I can work White collar if needed just it isn't my preference.
>The kicker is just that I swear every plan I have made to leave here has left me with my teeth kicked in financially or emotionally heartbroken. I have wanted to leave for so long it's basically my only goal.
Ok. You have options.
>Bar work in Spain, Portugal, Greece etc.
>Timeshare work in the above or Thailand
>TEFL and work in Cambodia, Ethiopia, Honduras and many more (just some examples)
>Dive instructor certification and work anywhere
Each have their pros and cons. I left the UK without even any GCSEs. Later got a B.Ed and M.Ed and I'm very comfortable now. You can do it, just take risks and be determined.

>>2852164
Are the Iberians that in need of bar workers? I doubt one can just get a visa for an untrained low wage worker especially when they've mass imported so many NAFRI into Europe as of late.
>English Teacher Roles
If I was into Yellow sideways pussy I'd consider it, but the idea of being an Anglo in SEA has connotations that I'd rather not be associated with.
Honestly, after things fell through with my now ex-fiance a H2B looked tempting but still feels out of the cards.
>Driving instructor
I'll look into it, should be getting my licence soon, which has been on the back burner forever.

>>2852162
Sorry I'm extremely tired meant for >>2852160

>>2852166
>Are the Iberians that in need of bar workers?
English pubs need English staff to pull in their English customers
>the idea of being an Anglo in SEA has connotations that I'd rather not be associated with
It's kind of pathetic you'll make the biggest life decisions based on how people will perceive you back in England. I lost all respect for you on this and I'm out

>>2852202
>It's kind of pathetic you'll make the biggest life decisions based on how people will perceive you back in England. I lost all respect for you on this and I'm out
based

It truly is hellish, I'm in the same position as you, you're obviously not much of a thinker though, USA? Ireland is in the same state now so count yourself lucky you failed on those plans.
The most insane thing about this whole thing is the country could be like it was in 1980 if they wanted it to be. Somehow they enjoy how it is now

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>>2852154
You were right the first time, don't get pushed off track so easily anon, have self confidence. You're a smart boy.
They have potholes, they are the originators of degeneracy but it doesn't affect you the same way, there's some charm to it.
A neighbour who gets drunk off his homemade booze and somehow tamed and owns a couple of Wolves that occasionally rip up street fixtures. Some impressive looking big bald Mafia guys stepping out of a tinted mercedes with leather jackets and gloves on might give you a smirk and spice up your morning on the way to work filling you with curiosity to ponder.
A woman from a village who you can takes a few rubles to let you fuck her just so she can buy bread and meat, on paper you'd say she's a third worlder but somehow she's white, clean, and has juicy plump Russian Lips. The type you'd say hi to in a bar and would be met with a look of disgust before she turns her back to you
And the lads in your picture are fine, silly sausages. Can't compare to the scum that hang around in the streets here. You might even want to go for a drink with some of those Gopniks

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>>2852166
>the idea of being an Anglo in SEA has connotations that I'd rather not be associated with.
I see. You're one of those people that always has an excuse.

>>2852219
Imagine not living a dream like because a few miserable people in a miserable country on the other side of the world don't understand why you're there kek

>>2852166
>but the idea of being an Anglo in SEA has connotations that I'd rather not be associated with.
i'm from the uk, i live in malaysia, i don't really give a fuck what anyone else thinks
let's face it anon you're basically a miserable cunt with a fantasy that you're never going to do anything about

>>2852227
Niice, I like originality. No copy and paste Chang Mai life for this anon. What's it like? What are you doing?

Why is everyone so dead set on calling Britain the UK? It looks and sounds ugly. Worst rebrand ever

>>2852131
Everywheres a shithole now. The great reset happened, congratulations, you’re a neopeasant/serf/slave, like 99.9% of the global population.

>>2852232
>What's it like?
hot. rainy too sometimes
>What are you doing?
living a normal life

>>2852257
You can't be living a normal life. I know you didn't go to find a 9-5

>>2852260
>You can't be living a normal life
ok anon i'll tell myself that tomorrow when i get up and mooch off to my office
>I know you didn't go to find a 9-5
i'm an IT contractor. i work in a slightly different way to most people maybe, including working weird hours depending on where my customers are. but it's not like i'm doing anything way out of the ordinary

>>2852245
I prefer the Yookay rebrand.
>>2852227
>>2852219
>>2852202
Look it's harsh, but I would like to settle down with someone if I were to move to somewhere, the idea of settling with an Asian girl just isn't in the cards for me.
That and most Brits that go to SEA for permanent residency are either super young twenties and chasing to some degree, or a in their 50s and still chasing.

For someone who literally wants to disappear into the culture/people I would stick out like a sore thumb, even if the cost of living is plenty lower, I want to disappear in a crowd more than anything else.
>>2852248
I refuse to believe that, the grass has to be greener, I've seen it be greener elsewhere, the UK actively feels like a sinking ship, the issue is just the sheer alienation I feel here I think is the biggest issue.

>>2852131
>I was hoping to get Irish citizenship through my Grandfather only to find out that he's eligible to be put down into the FBR but I'm not.
anon
you are a british citizen
can you not just live in Belfast for a year or two and get irish citizenship that way?

>>2852318
>Look it's harsh, but I would like to settle down with someone if I were to move to somewhere, the idea of settling with an Asian girl just isn't in the cards for me.
dunno if you know this anon but if you go to asia most of the girls are asian girls
sure you could find one of the few unattached white expat females working here and miraculously form an instant connection with them but it's vanishingly unlikely
>That and most Brits that go to SEA for permanent residency are either super young twenties and chasing to some degree, or a in their 50s and still chasing.
you have a bit of a weird misconception about why people end up in places like this. the people who come here to get permanent residency are a minority of the usa/euro foreigners you will find here. sure there are some people who come here to retire because of the cheaper cost of living. but the majority of white foreigners here are working expats- which always has an implication that they will be returning to their home country at some point. that is my current plan although i don't have a timescale in mind.
>For someone who literally wants to disappear into the culture/people I would stick out like a sore thumb, even if the cost of living is plenty lower, I want to disappear in a crowd more than anything else.
sure if you are in a rural area people might look at you a bit questioningly. but if you are in a big city nobody gives a fuck.
>>>2852248
>I refuse to believe that, the grass has to be greener, I've seen it be greener elsewhere, the UK actively feels like a sinking ship, the issue is just the sheer alienation I feel here I think is the biggest issue.
you need to stop reading /pol/ and the horrible media and actually do something meaningful with your time
usually i tell people that if they really want to make a move to asia they really need to sort out their shit before they come here. in your case anon it sounds like there is more than the average amount of shit to sort out.

>>2852318
>>2852342
ok i read that again and i get it now, you're actually saying you don't want to move to asia, fair enough
i'm still suggesting iceland. go for it anon there's always a chance that you wlll get buried in a massive volcanic eruption

>>2852131
fuck off we're full

>>2852322
>this judeo-globalist hellhole just isn't pozzed enough, let's move to ireland

what you have to understand about immigration to the US is that unlike most western countries, they select for wealth instead of skills. So if you're a poorfag you probably don't have a real shot

>>2852318
You need to get out of the doom loop first and foremost. All countries in the world have their social problems, because humans are deeply imperfect creatures who create new problems as fast as they solve old ones. There is no magic utopia country, though some anons are convinced that Japan is as close to a social utopia as anywhere in the world. Maybe they're right...but Japan is full of problems as well, including the alienation and societal disengagement issues that plague the West.
>>2852154
Eastern European countries are growing very dynamically, but of course that means many young men are feeling left out and alienated by modern progress under the EU flag. Women (the primary beneficiaries of modern progress) don't want these left-out men, and centuries of genetic predisposition to booze drive them to alcohol as a solace. Also, the roads of Poland and Lithuania were very good by world standards, especially when you take into account how harsh their winters are.
>>2852166
I met a guy with a Slavic English accent on the Pune metro yesterday who worked at a fancy restaurant in a Croatian seaside resort town for two years. He was really sad-faced, solo traveling between jobs or something like that. IDK if he had anything lined up afterwards, because he seemed really hopeless about life. You get that way when you watch your savings slowly diminish with aimless solo travel, no real prospects on the future horizon.

>>2852299
Now this is strange. You just moved your life to a more interesting setting. Fair enough

>>2852410
>I met a guy with a Slavic English accent on the Pune metro
A bit of a shock to me that a guy from Croatia would bother touristing in fucking Pune of all places.

You probably won't be happy wherever it is you go. Just being realistic here.

>>2852131
Don't come to the USA. You'll get deported, and not back to the UK.

>>2852131
>I'm sick of this country, everything about it, the people, the state of it, the BAMES, the pot holes, the poverty, the White hoodlums and the Indians who've been mass imported who speak nothing but Hindi.
>I was hoping to move to the US
kek. it's worse here
>>2852245
Because Northern Ireland joined the union so Britain isn't a valid name anymore
>>2852322
No. You have to live in the Republic for at least 2 years probably 3.
>>2852376
Not true at all. Skills and credentials rule the system.

>>2852245
Unc still thinks it's the 1790s :skull: :skull: :skull:

>>2852318
If you want to be delusional then get on antidepressants or something. Mankind is over, and you’re never going to be rich enough to watch it collapse in comfort.
Moving to another country permanently is an absolute ballbuster, and is only worth the effort if you’re very rich (or already have a well paying job waiting), or if you’re at the bottom of the barrel, like the illegal immigrants.

>>2852245
I would rather type two letters than seven.

Spain is cheap if you don’t settle inside Madrid, Barcelona or resort towns. Andorra is intriguing but on a more expensive side. If you qualify for an EU citizenship get one and just come over and live in Spain. I found that on average rent in Caceres is almost two times cheaper than the fancy areas. Gotta brush up Spanish though.

>>2852468
>Now this is strange.
not really. wherever you go, sooner or later you have to live a semblance of a normal life, unless you are fantastically wealthy. fortunately for me, i am reasonably well off, so i could quit if i wanted, but i like what i do so i don't have any plans to do that either.
>You just moved your life to a more interesting setting.
believe me anon malaysia is not more interesting than the uk. malaysia is a fucking boring country. even in my fairly ordinary uk home town, i can go to see bands, comedy, theatre etc pretty much any day of the week and i live within an hour's drive of more historical places, countryside places etc than i can list. of course malaysia has some of those cultural things, but they are few and far between, and all filtered and censored, or just mundane or second rate. malaysia has some saving graces- the coastal islands, kl's rooftop bars and high end food culture, borneo's flora and fauna, a few other things. and the airport which is a good hub for visiting the other countries in the region.

>>2852554
>malaysia is a fucking boring country
Insanely dull. Dullest county in Asia second only to Brunei. The food is incredible though but even KL bores the shit out of me. I tried Sarawak, still boring af.

>>2852550
Spain is cheap for a reason hombre
>>2852554
>not really. wherever you go, sooner or later you have to live a semblance of a normal life
This is why I move every 5 years. I'm in CA now, I was going to go to Australia but that door is closing. Immigration will be impossible in the next 10 years without a PhD.

>>2852131
work holiday visa? find a place you're interested in then marry in is kind of the way.
with no education you're out of options for skilled worker visas or similar unless you have pretty specific trades certs.

also obligatory: trades in thirdy cunts pay shit.
white collar is kinda the way to go.

>>2852131
Go clean toilets in Poland mate.

>>2852131
All of /trv/ is what happens when you didn't get a University education in a First World Country with a job to match. You are turned into a maggot and unendingly mashed and assimilated with other poors. Asking for advice about a clean city in SEA, asking whether a certain place in india is ok for "digital nomads" aka poor and uneducated trash like you, asking where to move in EU, where is it still cheap, affordable, where women don't have "high standards".

See a pattern yet? You are the dysfunctional one, you didn't learn anything in your good years when your brain could have absorbed information. Now you are a walking, rotting corpse asking other rotting corpses for the trick to "make it".

>>2852852
Practically this. However, also, the west doesn't have as much of a comparative advantage any more. Some working class people (who wouldn't have made it at home anyway) inherently sense something's 'off' with the world order and are trying to be first movers to jump up a class.
Think about the US migrations back during its formation. They were a bunch of weirdos, too.

Some are going to fall off the edge, but there's loads out there who are integrating into other countries, and burning up the final remnants of their 'homes' prestige.

>>2852131

If you dont want to decrease your standard of living, then your choices are basically only the core anglosphere and nordics. Yes, all of these countries have been flooded with browns in the last decades but most small towns and rural places are still ok for the most part. Major cities are the problem.

Getting a visa is increasingly more difficult and unless you are wealthy/educated/expert in your field, you dont stand much chance. You are competing with millions of browns in all visa categories. I personally also considered moving to the US about a decade ago but truthfully I am better staying here considering the direction the US has gone in the past couple of years.

My honest opinion as a foreigner who has visited UK couple of times is that there are still good places over there where you can settle. Yeah its not great but I unironically still believe things might turn around.

>tldr - not many places where you can escape. We might actually have to stay where we are and endure the fight.

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White people are finally realizing just how draconian their countries' immigration policies actually are.
Being chuddy has it's consequences

>>2852494
> Not true at all. Skills and credentials rule the system.

I have a Masters in software development and yet have basically no path to moving despite the supposed H1B frenzy, which somehow doesnt seem to apply to Europeans

>>2854377
fucks sake why are people resurrecting these fucking ancient threads. let them die with some dignity
>yet have basically no path to moving
what is your career history?
the path to moving overseas and living a decent life (i.e. no peasant work like teaching esl or whatever) is:
get a job with a multinational in your home country. find companies that are smallish but big enough to have sales or support offices in other countries
gain experience
take every opportunity to work in other departments, projects etc
take every opportunity for networking
watch the internal jobs board like a hawk
make sure everyone knows you are interested in working in other countries etc
take any opportunity for secondments etc in overseas offices
once you get to another country, become essential there
find some way of remaining resident in that country even if you were to leave the job
start your own company
this is what i did. your mileage, etc

>>2854377
US Masters? That's all that matters to them.

>>2852155
>New England
Try the Midwest (the cheap New England), just stay away from the major cities.

>>2852376
American here, we only take in indians and arabs srry.

>loser who can't compete complains about immigrants, wants to become an immigrant
pottery

been all over the uk.
it can get pretty grim in affordable towns

also you're always cold until the radiator is on full blast

yea the areas for generational wealth are pretty comfy but still need more sunshine

I left last year and make way less money than you. Find a way to make money remotely and it's easy. But if you insist on remaining a dumbass manual laborer then prepare for a far lower quality of life than you already have.

Also wtf you talking about moving to ireland when you hate immigrants? Go back to school fucktard

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>>2852131
>I'm sick of this country,

So fix it then you fucking retard. Vote reform, participate in raising the flag, be racist to pakis. Why you running away?

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>>2852131
so here's a problem, if you run from problems instead of fixing them, you will find the same thing happened wherever you go, you have to get involved or you will simply run forever to places that get shittier and shittier the longer you stay there.

Honestly, the feds want you to stay while simultaneously doing everything they can to disenfranchise whites and western countries. If you don't like the UK move to the wealthy Middle Eastern nations or East Asia. No point in wasting your time in a country that does everything it can to spite you.

>>2855054
This might work for America where the place is big enough and has guns to fight back, but not the UK. Britain is literally the home of globohomo and the elites. The people and culture are cucked at the very soul.

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>>2855392
This
Nobody wants another paunchy alcoholic with rotten teeth shambling around acting self-important. Stay home.

>>2855054
The world I was raised in (a soulless multiracial mutt-topia of tract houses) has become the norm everywhere in America over the last 25 years. Unlike others I never harbored any delusions of fitting in and finding my place. I don't bear any grievances for an imaginary utopia, because I've seen even the most homogenous, traditional ethnic societies struggle with deeply rooted problems. Every human community has its outcasts. It's a fact of life, not some grievous wrong. My grandparents wouldn't have left Europe for America if they had a bright happy future awaiting them back home.

>>2855396
Doing a think about this image

>>2854683
Not really the same but I could see how your sub-80 IQ would be incapable of understanding that, rajeet


>>2855396
The average poo is missing 8+ teeth lmao I actually can't think of another culture with worse oral hygiene (noticing a pattern here)

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>>2853554
>White people are finally realizing just how draconian their countries' immigration policies actually are.
>Being chuddy has it's consequences

Why would you even post on 4chan for a serious answer? This site is entirely Jews, Indian chat bots, LLMs, and shareblue liberal trannies. You're not going to get a good answer on here because they hate you for being a white european.

>>2852131
Practice your American accent and just go there. Being an illegal is not difficult.

>>2858717
Is anything I said wrong?
Chuds think immigrating into their countries is a piece of cake until they want to do it themselves, then they find out it's not as easy as it looks. This all could have been avoided if they had simply voted to make the process more lenient in the first place.

>>2859035
> wot I'm british? commonwealth innit
Always hilarious when talking to other Brits having fleeting thoughts of leaving and they realise it's very fucking hard.