You can tell the OP is a sub-human American redditor. Bought a ticket to Paris for the vibes and has no idea what to do in an ancient city full of history and art and food so hes gonna get onto the 22 year old paris sucks gimmick

>>2854083
I'm from EU. All the museums are nothing special.

Is there a city you do find impressive?

>>2854086
Now you sound like some terminally bored phone zombie who finds watching a vlog of [place] more interesting than actually being there. There's not a place in the world that won't make you go "meh, it's just dirt and trees and water and roads and houses and people, what's so special about it?"

>>2854097
Dubai

>>2854100
Dubai is a great example of how a clean, prosperous, well-disciplined civilization can thrive without white judeo-christian "values". Visiting Sharjah really broke me out of the /pol/ mindset of muh melanation bad.

>>2854100
>>2854104
Nobody who isn't retarded is going to Muslim Las Vegas on their own dime.

>>2854100
ok, so you just outed yourself as a brown person.

>>2854104
>Dubai is a great example of how a clean, prosperous, well-disciplined civilization can thrive if free of judeo control.
ftfy

>>2854100
Holy cringe

You have to have a fairly high IQ to appreciate Paris.

>>2854082
I had the inverse experience. Went because I was going with someone who really wanted to. I insisted we keep Paris short and spend more time in the countryside. I had heard too many negative things from my Swedish friends. I don't regret that decision, but the one full day we spent in Paris was quite lovely. Took a boat tour to see the old buildings, ate at a couple fancy restaurants, bicycled around the city. I don't think it's Europe's finest city, and one must be warned to avoid certain quarters of the city, but it has something to offer, even if that something is a nice meal on a comfy street.

>>2854226
All of the other travel tales of Paris here mention that the entire city smells of urine. A high IQ implies moving away from or avoiding something like that.

>>2854082
oh great a "paris is shit" thread. second only to the "singapore is boring and expensive" threads on here as markers for stupid poor people
>>2854086
>I'm from EU
presumably one of those shitty countries in eastern europe. people from western europe aren't generally ashamed of saying which country they are from. my guess is that you're from romania and someone caught you pickpocketing
>All the museums are nothing special.
oh my word you're a special one anon
>>2857568
yes, the streets in paris are notoriously filthy. the places in paris where "high iq" people go don't.

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>>2854082
Paris is a city you either get or you don't. Personally I love Paris, I'm there at least four weeks a year. The museums, the architecture, the boulangeries, the vibes, it's just so special. Even the people are great. Nothing more magical than starting a summer day with a run along the Seine, resting in a beautiful park, taking a shower and spending the rest of the day in museums, book shops and restaurants. It's also gotten a lot better since the war on cars has started.
But I also get if people can't get over the dirt, the rats, the sheer size of the city, the tourist traps (honestly you have to be stupid to fall for them but they are still annoying to witness) and the Parisian snobbery, especially when it comes to food.

Lille is a much nicer city to visit

It was a nice city in the 1920s, when it was the capital of Europe next to London, which was also one of the nicest places on Earth. Nowadays Europe is a backwater, and these cities are mostly black/muslim. Times change, go to China or SEA next time.

>>2854104
/pol/tards are just non-whites bitching about how much they hate white people. Whites are all liberal karens. Every time I say Asia has surpassed the zioliberal shitholes of the USA/Europe I get called a pajeet by brown wignats and jews. No shit a country that is focused on engineering and nation building will be better. White people stopped doing that in the early 1900s.

Currently in Paris right now for the first time in years. Havent seen as many nafris but by god has this city been infested with jeets.
Also the drivers are worse than Italian holy fuck. at least all the food has been good even if its slightly pricey at times but if i can get by on smoked fish and bread for 2 euros ill be ok.

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>>2857568
Paris has some really amazing neighborhoods and some really bad ones. You want to move to the Montmartre neighborhood? I hope you can finance $1.5 million for a 1 bed 1 bath condo. With those kind of prices, you get good neighbors.

I went to Europe 10 times before I finally caved in and visited Paris for a week. It's a great city. I was worried when I got off the train and it looked like Ghana, but the rest of the city was amazing. We stayed in the Marais. We mostly walked everywhere. There is endless shit to do. Riding electric bikes down the Seine is one of the best things I've ever done in my life.

We did have to deal with an Airbnb host who put in a bullshit claim for $500 that we damaged her bathroom. But Airbnb denied her claim. We had a similar problem in Amsterdam. I've stayed in like 100 Airbnbs in 100 cities and those are the only 2 cities we ever had problems.

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>>2854082
from around the 1880's to 1930's europe had an unofficial contest to see which country could have the most beautiful city. Paris won. It has a lot of problems today due to their shitty liberal politics but the beauty, food. and culture cannot be denied.

>>2858816
>No shit a country that is focused on engineering and nation building will be better. White people stopped doing that in the early 1900s.
White people were serious about progress and accomplishing things until at leas the 1970s and were still productive for a few decades after that

>>2858825
>Paris has some really amazing neighborhoods and some really bad ones. You want to move to the Montmartre neighborhood? I hope you can finance $1.5 million for a 1 bed 1 bath condo. With those kind of prices, you get good neighbors.
Is that right? I met a really pretty girl from there when I was in Spain. I guess she was rich as hell I should've tried harder to get her

>>2858416

You people are talking about Paris like it's the 1990's.

The only takeaway i got from spending a week there for work was:

- It's a dirty shithole
- It's overpopulated now
- It's full of migrants, pickpockets, negroids, arabs
- It felt like whites were a minority in many areas
- The food is mostly sous vide overpriced shit that's reheated and served to tourists while only a few select places offer authentic food made with fresh ingredients
- Cops don't do anything about the pickpockets and scammers
- Can't enjoy the history when there's a million tourists, pickpockets and crackheads around
- Hotels are overpriced trash
- The few whites there were arrogant pieces of shits who treat tourists like trash

I prefer Lyon, Nice, Montpelier, Bordeaux over that multiracial degenerate favela of a city anytime.

>>2859229
>Can't enjoy the history when there's a million tourists, pickpockets and crackheads around
You sound very American. If you get pickpocketed in Paris you are probably the most touristy tourist in the whole metro. Tourism is not at all a problem because the city is so big that they distribute quite evenly. Just avoid the hot spots. If you're loitering at Eiffel Tower, Notre Dame or Sacre Coeur in the middle of summer you only have yourself to blame.

>It felt like whites were a minority in many areas
They are. Paris is a very segregated city, the banlieus are mostly non-white. But the furthest a tourist should go in Paris is probably La Defense, so you will never see those hellholes. And the inner city is suprisingly white, because living there is expensive.

>Hotels are overpriced trash
There is such a huge array of different hotels in Paris, that's just a stupid thing to say. I've stayed in decent places for as low as 40€ per night, inner city of course.

>The food is mostly sous vide overpriced shit that's reheated and served to tourists while only a few select places offer authentic food made with fresh ingredients
This is somewhat true, but again I think you just have no idea how to find good spots. There are some amazing restaurants in Paris which are very decently priced. But Paris is definitely overrated when it comes to food. And looking for vegetarian or god forbid vegan options can be hell because Parisians have a very unsubstantiated arrogance when it comes to their cuisine.

>>2859229
Another /pol/ virgin got lost on this board. You weren't born in the 1990's, if you were, you would know that Paris has always been a shithole full of migrants. I have been to Paris in the 1990's and I can tell you it was dirtier and shittier back then than it is today.

>>2859778
>you would know that Paris has always been a shithole
this part is definitely true. read any historical description of paris and the filthiness of the place is always remarked on. right from a tale of two cities, to orwell's down and out in paris and london, and so on. parisians with dogs were always famously disgusting- people would just let them shit everywhere, right in the middle of pavements, and just leave it there for everyone else to step on and get everywhere. of course in the bad old days people everywhere weren't so careful about picking up their dog's shit but paris was in another league.
>full of migrants
thanks to france's policy of allowing people from its colonies to settle in the motherland, there have always been some, but the past two or three decades have also been in another league. le grand remplacement is in full effect, for sure

>>2859778
>>2859786
Say what you will about Anne Hidalgo but her anti car policies have greatly improved the city. I visited last year the first time since 2015 and I was shocked. Paris is still dirty and there are still too many cars but it's finally starting to feel like a first world city.

>>2859229
Damn this Paris syndrome.
Honest question, have you ever being a tourist? That counts everything that doesn't involve working btw.
>>2859778
If anything, it seems that Paris has actually improved in the last years.

>>2854082
Try the quai Branly

>>2859229
Despite all of these, it's a soulful and based city

>>2854082
Paris is a third world shit hole. The food sucks, the people suck, it's filthy and everywhere smells like piss and dog shit everywhere
Don't ever go back

>>2859787
Can we go one day on /trv/ without a retarded mouthbreather from /n/ coming here to seethe about cars for no reason?

>>2854082
Paris to me is pure travel slop, it's the meme travel destination that "everyone has goes to go to". Very over rated, I would also put London, and New York on that list of travel slop. It once held appeal for people to visit when the world was not a very connected place and air travel was just starting (think back about 100 years to the 1920s, 1930s) back before it become a world hub and a dirty shit hole. Now it's filled with dirty browns trying to hock cheap trinkets and scam you, along with piss filled streets, and a million tourists taking dumb selfies in front of "le heckin eiffel tower!" So yeah, maybe consider some other destinations in Europe or elsewhere, or even France for that matter if you want a better trip. Paris is a meme destination.

>>2854086
You can call Paris a shithole overrun with foreigners as much as you like but you cannot complain about the museums. They collect some of the finest works of art and artefacts in the world and if you're too blind to see that I feel sorry for you.
The only complaint is that they charge a fairly steep entry fee whereas places like Britain let you in for absolutely nothing.

>>2859921
look everybody, the real traveller has arrived

>>2859951
I urge you to stick to Disney world. Paris is shit, it is a dirty ugly run down trash heap, I don't know why so many people defend it.

>>2859973
paris is dirty, i don't think anyone is "defending" that. but it has some of the most important galleries and museums in the world. it sounds like you're just not very cultured and also try not being so relentlessly combative on a simple discussion board eh
>>2859921
>the 1920s, 1930s) back before it become a world hub and a dirty shit hol
that was exactly the period that it was a dirty shithole, at least for the poor working class. read orwell

>>2859918
kek you clearly haven't been to Paris pre 2020.

>>2859787
the cyclist /n/iggers glow in the dark.
run them over with your car, it’s what you do.