Shanghai is a fun city by itself. Lujiazui is the place with the skyline and across the way is the Waitan or Bund where you can view it. I'm a few years out now, but the Museum of Science and Technology subway station has a great fake market area and the museum itself is cool. Also highly recommend Power Station art museum (if it's still open) and the Museum of Urban Development. The Art Museum building at Mercedes Benz Arena was pretty cool but not really my favorite art museum I've been to.

>>2856071
Ive been hearing that China is open about their lack of freedoms. I find it amazing they have cities with people piled on top of each other like ants.

I don't know if that should stop people from visiting, though. I find China fascinating with how fast they've improved themselves.

>>2857206
They don't see it as a lack of freedom though. They do what they like and have fun. They're inherently more collectivist through their history, and take pride in their current progress.
Chinese people have way more freedom than before, and can do things their grandparents never dreamed possible.
They also see some areas of western 'freedom' as decadence, and don't want that path.
The government measures are the cost of entry for them at the moment. Whether that'll change, who knows?

The Chinese do have the ability to complain and make changes though. They protest and state unhappiness, and things often get actioned. It generally seems to jesterk at the moment for most. It'll be interesting what the next era brings - rise and fall, and all. I predict after Xi dies expansionism will begin as a way of keeping the train running.

>>2857215
We will probably be the one world government someday, China will probably win. I could see USA if they had Mark Carney from Canada approach be attractive tho.

USA may try to take over its entire continent, China will rule Africa, Oceania, and Europe will basically try to be independent and hold out as long as they can but be overwhelmed by Chinese commerce.

>>2857529
China's massively bottlenecked by language. They won't be able to hold anything outside of Asia for long. Their presence anywhere else will fade when the money dries up.

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>>2856071
Funnily enough I was just in Shanghai a few weeks ago. It was my 3rd time but it was my first time exploring the city. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Shanghai Tower was great. 2nd most tallest building in the world and it was a breeze to buy tickets on the spot than Burj Khalifa.
I had low expectations of Yuyuan Garden since it's a well known tourist trap, but it was actually the good kind of tourist trap. They transformed it into some cyberpunk meets history type of hotspot & there are plenty of shops around and no people bothering you. I'm big on tea scented products and saw 2 shops there that I liked.
Now take note that China is pretty much cashless now. I suggest using WeChat and linking your credit card there (or add balance on your account) because that will be your mode of payment everywhere. Google maps doesn't work so either use Apple maps or download Amap (Android users)

Currently staying with my wife’s family. They have a nice townhouse in the suburbs. I highly recommend Singapore, there things to do if your poor and rich. Food is amazing, and Singapore has honestly convinced me that diversity can work (if you actually enforce the law fairly, or just actually enforce the law).

I recommend going to
> fort Channing
>orchard road shopping district
>find some food stalls (hawkers) for cheap but great food
>little India (for the cleanest/best Indian food you’ll be able to get in the world
>sultans mosques
>gardens by the bay
>the nature preserve to see monkeys

I’m sure I’m forgetting more, but there a lot to see in Singapore. Have fun.

>>2856071
Was your flight to Tokyo canceled? I am also planning a trip to China then Japan in March but I heard they canceled all Japan flight in Feb.

>>2859261
I miss read this. Sorry, I thought this was a Singapore thread. Excuse my retardation.

>>2859269
Lmao

>>2856071
Take a day trip to Suzhou. Visit the Humble Administrator’s Garden and then take a walk down Pingjiang Road. In Shanghai, the Site of the first communist congress or whatever it’s called has a great museum and it’s free (of course). The French quarter has lots of nice restaurants and cafes to check out.

How accurate? My take on Shanghai as an outsider is that it's the richest city with the most Chinese girls who speak English and studied abroad, making it perfect to date some top tier girls as a decent/fit white guy

>>2859632
if you were a decent/fit white guy you wouldn't need to date chinese girls. go get /fit/

>>2860040
"Date" as in fuck after 1 simple date. You can put in high effort, multiple dates, lots of money to bang an average girl in the west after dealing with all the rejections along the way or an attractive girl once in awhile.

Top tier western girls are simply out of reach unless you're 9/10, whereas top tier asian girls are within easy reach. I'd take a top tier asian over an average white for fun, which is easy enough to do with western-born asians and I would expect easier in Asia