>>217761043
I totally forgot this movie existed. I remember it was super popular on the Internet for years and then it kinda got memoryholed after the Disaster Artist movie

>>217761043
Leave your stupid comments in your pocket

this movie is literal proof that america has a very strict caste system and that tommy wiseau's awareness of it in his immigrant experience did not help because of how absolute and sublimated it is in american culture. I'm not being funny. I agree with you. The production has more social realism and production than most dramas made in the last ten years.

>>217761074
I think too many people began to realize the story was actually based and redpilled

People used to mock the movie for Lisa being written as a chaotically evil woman with no real goals other than causing mayhem and drama, but people have apparently wised up.

>>217761086
Say something constructive or kill yourself.

>>217761043
It’s not good, but it’s not nearly as bad as everyone memes it to be

>>217761135
retard

>>217761043
I liked how Johnny finds out Lisa is cheating on him like 7 different times.

>>217761170
I hope you kill yourself. It would be for the best, and you know it too.

>>217761135
>but people have apparently wiseau’d up

>>217761213
You know, funny thing, I thought of that too as I wrote it but I didn't know how to sneak that into the post in a natural way hahaha, thank you

>I'm so happy I have you as my best friend, and I love Lisa so much

>>217761257
>haha le foreigner no English good haha
That is the extent of The Room's criticisms.

>>217761043
If you browse any free movie site, there is an ocean of movies just as shitty as this one. Why did THIS movie become an insane cult classic while the others were forgotten?

>>217761043
>Why is this movie bad again?
it was made to look and feel like a bad movie. tommy and whoever was funding him decided to make a movie so bad that it becomes a cult classic.

he had a pretty big pr company dedicated to make a cult classic and profitable movie.

i fell for the bullshit but started noticing a lot of holes in the metaplot
>stupid immigrant with no recorded background but lots of money
>makes dumb movie
>bunch of hollywood connected comedians and radio shows start talking about it and promiting

>>217761362
Because it's genuinely funny. Most of the other bad movies are just bad

>>217761362
It had to do with the mystery surrounding it in LA. Wiseau leased a prominent billboard on some major highway and the movie poster was up for YEARS. And I guess it was running in a few theaters (LA has a lot of movie theaters that do second run, extended run, special programs, etc) and word of mouth got around and it began running as a midnight movie and just caught on.

>>217761386
"The Room" was Tommy's honest attempt at film-making and stardom. He just has a thick foreign accent and has odd mannerisms on top of that so everything just comes off very funny. If he hired an actor to play the role of Johnny and hired a script coach to polish up the writing and make it sound more genuinely American, this would have been a completely harmless melodrama of the 2000s.

>>217761201
It was a line from the movie you absolute moron

>>217761390
I also find it fascinating. Like it looks like a relatively normal movie at first glance but you start watching it and realize something is weirdly off in every way. The acting is stilted, the writing is awkward and at times bizarre, there are elements that appear for seemingly no reason like a framed photo of spoons or the mother suddenly saying she has breast cancer and it never comes up again. Just a weird flick from another dimension. After Last Season is similarly fascinating for this reason.

>>217761043
I only watched this movie once while high and pretending the characters were living in The Sims universe. I had a great time.

>>217761476
You're right. Sorry.

>>217761362
the uniquely bizarre nature of it made it stand out

>>217761473
>"The Room" was Tommy's honest attempt at film-making and stardom.
no, it was created to be as retarded as possible. it's a comedy/parody.

greg probably knows but the rest of the cast and crew probably doesn't.

>>217761362
it's because the movie is shot in a way that looks like a "real" movie when this is actually another "filmed with a camcorder in the woods behind my house" level indie movie

>>217761532
Nope.

>>217761532
>no, it was created to be as retarded as possible. it's a comedy/parody.
Mike Stoklasa mentioned this possibility in the RLM bandcamp commentary tracks.

If that is the case, they showed real restraint not just straight up shoving boom mikes in the shot, etc, which would have been very easy to do.

I'm not against the theory that this was bad on purpose for political reasons, but I'm interested to hear the motive.

>>217761532
>it was created to be as retarded as possible. it's a comedy/parody.

go to bed, tommy

Why is The Room bad?
>bad acting across the board
>plot is nonsensical, subplots get added and dropped out of no where, character motivations make little to no sense, bad pacing
>bad ADR
>overly long sex scenes that add nothing to the movie
>terrible looking sets
>a lot of the shots look pretty terrible


The reason The Room is funny and caught on is because it is genuine. It has a level of actual budget and actual production beyond people intentionally just making slop. Tommy Wiseau thought he was making A Streetcar Named Desire.

>>217761532
It was not. If you look at everything Tommy has done SINCE The Room he is trying to make those 'so bad it is good' and it doesn't work.

I like the soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZfox7y8VAg

>>217761362
>Why did THIS movie become an insane cult classic while the others were forgotten?
because Wiseau ran a billboard advertising the movie for over 5 fucking years. that's the only reason. everyone else who replied to you is a retard.

>>217761665
Why was Lisa so FAT?

I read the Disaster Artist, and that book made me realize how much of a parasite Greg Sistero was. Guy basically leeched off Tommy like a total user, and then has the gal to pretend like he was doing him a favor and he's above it all. If it wasn't for Tommy, Greg would have just been one of the thousands of no-name wannabe be failed actors that end up working in retail.

>>217761532
That's a fucking lie because all his attempts to make movies like that since have been awful and unfunny.

>>217761043
What was up with Denny
Was he supposed to be a kid or what? He's clearly a fully grown man

>duuuuude, it's like so bad it's actually good
>it's just plain bad
erry time

>>217761043
You are tearing me apart /tv/

>>217761201
>I hope you kill yourself.
hey, that's what Lisa wanted.

>>217761993
Denny is the most unhinged mf in that movie.
> Drugs.
> I just like to watch you guys.
> Thirsting over Lisa, even tho his gf is also called Elisabeth.
I bet he fucked Tommy's corpse too after the credits.

>>217761043
>killing yourself over a woman
lol, it's not like they had kids or shared a mortage

Why is life bad?
>bad acting across the board
>plot is nonsensical, subplots get added and dropped out of no where, character motivations make little to no sense, bad pacing
>bad ADR
>overly short sex scenes that add everything to the emotional baggage
>terrible looking work and home
>a lot of life look pretty terrible

>>217762041
kek

>>217762199
>bad ADR
I was introduced to The Room through that episode of Tim and Eric Awesome Show
They play the flower shop scene completely unedited
I thought it was a joke Time and Eric did until I saw the actual movie

>>217761386
Obviously he was from the future retard
>Talks with a weird accent because that's future people accent, has no recorded background because he hasn't been born yet, lots of money from the future
>Makes an expose warning his bros about what women in the future are like
>Hollywood connected comedians and radio shows start talking about it because these are the ones who know he's a time traveler and they don't want him fucking their shit

>>217762273
I think the first time I watched the room was on [as] during april fool's day

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>>217762297
It all makes sense.

Relevant:
https://redlettermedia.bandcamp.com/track/the-room-commentary-track

>>217762390
Trust me bro all you need to do is think outside of the box. I mean what even is a box? Four sides with a top and bottom? Huh...just like a (the) Room. See what I'm saying? Two wrongs don't make a right, but too many coincidences do give you the answer.

>>217762041
Ha ha. What a story, anon.
Anyway, how is your sex life?

>>217761074
The Disaster Artist film sucked balls. The book it was based on was much better.

>>217761129
Elaborate on the caste thing
Are you saying the story is about being stuck in a societal strata, or are you saying people mocked Wiseau for being an obvious weirdo foreigner who thought he could be a movie star despite not fitting the mold at all?

>>217761043
At the start of the film:
>If a lot of people love each other, the world would be a better place to live.

In the end:
>It's not over, everybody betray me, I'm fed up with this world!

A somewhat clumsy, but still effective corruption arc, a proper fall from grace. Audiences just weren't prepared, as you pointed out. Bravo Wiseau.

One of my favorite meta jokes is how Lisa is meant to be this seductress who lures Mark into affair, but Wiseau cast this woman who's kind of dumpy and plain, despite still being mildly attractive. It'd be one thing if she was a really good actress but she isn't, even accounting for how stilted and weird Wiseau's dialogue is. Wonder if she's just the first one who agreed to get her tits out for the sex scene, or agreed to do those scenes at all

>>217762571
The things people find funny they find prestigious when coding indicates some kind of surreality or symbolic emotional conveyence; i.e. normative values must conform coding. Wiseau simply wrote his own script with his own ideas and was punished because of agnosticism to coding. Some other examples of movies being criticized for their coding include the brotherhood of the wolf and lucy. With the room, audiences find the immigrant experience incongruous with their socially prescribed decadence pro forma which is indicated in reviews which must dehumanize tommy wiseau, his acting or composition.

>>217761043
Oh christ, are the zoomers actually trying to contrarian revisionist history The Room into being a misunderstood masterpiece now?

>>217761043
Fuck out of here, it's a shitty soap opera subplot with a comically amateurish execution that serves as nothing more than a vanity project vehicle for some weird vaguely foreign dude who has money to spend. Next you're going to tell me that Neil Breen is a misunderstood genius.

>>217763225
This is what happens when a whole generation stops reading books and can only watch a film if they're simultaneously scrolling through brainrot on tik tok or youtube.

>>217761043
Is he euro royal or mafia or what?

>>217761760
>Greg would have just been one of the thousands of no-name wannabe be failed actors that end up working in retail.
Isn't he? Has he done anything besides be in The Room and write about it?

>>217763281
>Fuck out of here
in a few minutes bitch

>>217761043
a girl literally did this to me and i almost committed suicide but i found another girlfriend at the time

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you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded
hahh hahh hahh

>>217761362
Nostalgia critic

>>217761074
The independent theatre in my city still lives of off screening this movie half a dozen times a year and Rock Horror in October. Last I checked looks like they pretty much get the full 150 or so seats full every time it screens.

>>217761135
YA GOOFED

>>217764233
I remember thinking around that time that Doug was kinda losing his touch. Everything that's funny in his review of The Room comes directly from that movie, and his own bits and reactions either add little to nothing of comedic value or it actively detracts, especially the Channel Awesome cameos. He was funny for a while, but his range was limited, and I think it started to really show around this time.

>>217762623
in the book it’s literally confirmed that she was the only actress willing to do the sex scenes. also in the book at the audition tommy made out with her for like ten minutes

>>217764204
I read it in his voice
If you did this too
the waarld would be a better place to live
ha ha ahh

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>>217761043
>>217761074
>>217761086
>>217761129
>>217761760
You forgot that based Tommy was paying for Denny's college and Lisa's mom's cancer treatment

Denny was crying when he found out what happened to Johnny. Lisa was bored and wanted to monkey branch to Greg, but even he knew it was fucked

The problem with empathy is that there are many more people who happily take advantage of others peoples empathy. NGOs, various religious organizations and other volunteer work would not exist if people were as selfish as you proclaim they are.

Tommy has too much empathy, integrity and self accountability to dehumanize others. Empathy and letting people take advantage of you are not the same thing, and that is where Tommy has gone tragically wrong.

Here's the thing about empathy: when you're too empathetic, people will take advantage of you, they'll cry crocodile tears while they beg you to gradually destroy your own life inch, by inch

>>217764726
NGOs are weaponized attack vectors here to destroy our country. NGOs push gays and trannies and LGBT and open borders. It's not empathy, it's psychopathy masquerading as empathy.

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>>217761737
>Wiseau ran a billboard advertising the movie for over 5 fucking years
Where did he get the money for that?

>>217764934
his vampire heritage

>>217764934
That's part of the mystery that kept The Room in people's minds. No one really knows where this weird little man came from or how he financed his movie.

>>217764934
He's a vampire from the future here to warn us all of the foid menace. Foids be so crazy even vampires have had enough of them.

>>217761362
Because he showed his ass. Without that it wouldn't sell

>>217765181
>>217761362
Whatever happened to Bob Odenkirk remaking The Room?

>>217761532
There's an entire book about it. Tommy wrote The Room as a response to failing in his attempted acting career. The movie was a Tennessee Williams style play that was converted to a movie. Tommy was attempting to start his career with his own money

>>217761760
Greg had the same agent as Joaquin Phoenix and Josh hartnett around 1999 but still crashed and burned. He's very wooden as an actor

>>217761183
Yeah, and when he plays the phone recording, he isn't even shocked: it's just the solid proof he needs of everything he already figured out.

>>217761627
>Tommy Wiseau thought he was making A Streetcar Named Desire.

according to greg he and tommy saw the talented mr. ripley when it came out and tommy said “that film proves great movies can still be made… i will make a movie like this”.

>>217761043
>>Lisa cheats on Tommy with his best friend
>「ああ、こんにちは、マーク!」

>>217761532
This is what Tommy wants people to believe since achieving cult notoriety but I’m afraid it’s just not the case because his later attempts to capture the same lightning in a bottle hilarious bad movie phenomenon all fell flat on their face. The problem is that while he’s now able to somewhat “laugh along” with people at the movie, he himself actually doesn’t have the slightest clue WHY it’s so funny and what drew people to it in the first place. When Tommy watches the room he still just sees a straight up tragic hard drama odyssey that’s played completely straight and movingly.

>>217765348
>The problem is that while he’s now able to somewhat “laugh along” with people at the movie, he himself actually doesn’t have the slightest clue WHY it’s so funny and what drew people to it in the first place. When Tommy watches the room he still just sees a straight up tragic hard drama odyssey that’s played completely straight and movingly.

The moral that Tommy was trying to tell us is that it's better for men to go their own way and not let people use you or parasite from your success

>>217761043
I much prefer the admittedly awkward sincerity of The Room to A24
slop that has to be coated with 3 layers of irony for midwits to feel smart

>>217765384
No he wasn’t. Have you ever seen how Tommy responds to any questions at all about how he funded The Room? Even the least confrontational ones that accept his narrative as fact and go along with his version of events? Sketchy is an understatement but if we want to talk about parasites leeching off others then go right on ahead I guess

>>217765388
I don’t know what Tommy Wiseau and A24 remotely have to do with each other at all but okay, noted, thanks for your input.

>>217765235
>There's an entire book about it.
yeah, there's never any lies in a book.

>>217765348
just because he's a one hit wonder doesn't mean it's not fake/manufactured.

why does tommy play up his accent in the room and his media appearances? there's footage without the heavy accent.

also how does everyone here think they know what's going on in his head? i know people who are addicted to tv and movies think acting is a crazy skill that takes years to develop but it's really not.

to fool the average person, it doesn't take much.

>>217766328
>there's footage without the heavy accent.
And how many years apart is that footage vs. when he shot the room? I know a guy from high school who had a thick accent and when I met him again years later, he sounded like an American. Dude hired voice coaches to make his speech sound more natural. You can do that. Tommy probably did that too to some degree.

>>217765223
It's 3 years at this point it's probably cancelled

>>217761043
I like the game's true ending when you collect all spoons.

>>217763281
Neil Breen is unironically a genius and his movies are incredible. I don't mean in some sort of esoteric 2deep4u way, I mean they are the pure distillation of some nerdy kid making home movies growing up and having enough disposable income that he can continue to produce similar short films that are just about him being a leather jacket wearing sunglasses at night psychic hacker fighting the illuminati while he pays random women to run around and flirt with him in his garage. It's beautiful and I wish we had more shameless outsider art like it.

>>217764934
Nobody knows. Tommy's life story is a complete mystery, and we barely even know which country he came from.

>>217764934
>>217764961
I thought the running theory was Wiseau isn't his real name and he was a Bosnian warlord in the 90s then changed his identity and fled to America to avoid prosecution for war crimes? The money supposedly comes from all he looted during the war

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>>217764562
>tommy made out with her for like ten minutes

>>217765348
>his later attempts to capture the same lightning in a bottle hilarious bad movie phenomenon all fell flat on their face

I still think a Pigman series would've had a chance to grow into something special

https://youtu.be/_tVOqZIC8qU?si=NEZS3I6F1IY6zXxE

>>217764934
selling t-shirts in nawlins

>>217767524
That's some funny shit bro

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>>217764562
the good ole days

/our/guy Harvey was very active in that same time period

>>217767477
I point to this as the only worthwhile thing Tommy made after The Room
>I AM PEEG MAHN

>>217761043
I did not sneed her, it's bullshit I did not sneed her, I did not...

Ohi anon!

>>217761362
LA in-joke that then went nationwide because of Tim and Eric putting it on adult swim