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It was goodand Korra is a cutie
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I'd fuck her cousins.
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>>217762067
/co/ fags don't care about avatar and always let avatar threads die because they'd rather post softcore porn of underage girls from autism bait cartoon network slice of life slop, and if you post on /a/ they'll tell you to go back to /co/
By process of elimination, avatar belongs on /tv/
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What happend, why did it turn out so shitty
Was it a Matrix situation and the creators didn't want to do it, so they made it purposely bad to fuck the studio over
This franchise should have been a cash cow and a spinoff machine because the setting is perfect for it, why did it get boruto'ed
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>>217762408
tl;dr Nickelodeon was schizophrenic and constantly changed their budget. First they told them to make 1 season, so they designed the first season as a self-contained miniseries. Then they repeatedly ping ponged between renewing the series and fucking them over by clawing back the budget halfway through production in reaction to ratings, or weird things like refusing to air season 4 on TV and putting it online-only.
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>>217762466
This really doesn't explain the plot though, it felt like it was purposely made so you would hate it, there was nothing there to like or get attached to, one would think it was made by a communist that wanted fans of the IP to kill themselves
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>>217762484
The theory that this guy carried ATLA was utterly destroyed when he embarrassed himself by making The Dragon Prince thoughbeit
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>>217761487
The only good season was Season 3, 1 was mediocre, 2 was bullshit in every regard and 4 was ok I guess, though definitelly not suitable to be the series' finale, especially with its lackluster ending.
And that's judging the series by its own merit. As soon as you compare it with ATLA everything falls apart, at its best it is just an inferior version and at its worst it not just insulting to the themes and passion the original series conveyed, it openly contradicts them.
I guess on a technical level it is good, which for Western and sometimes even Japanese Animation industry standards is already something noteable, but I just can't give a Rat's ass about the quality of the animation when the things animated are the most lackluster things imagineable. Neither the detailed art nor the fluid animation can save an uninspired fight choreography or the shitty romance section.
The Music was great though, probably the only thing which is on par with the original series, if not above.
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>>217762576
Yeah the Ehasz wank is definitely overblown don't get me wrong
Bryke come up with great concepts and aesthetically/visually Korra blows most other cartoons of its type out the water (besides that half-season where they outsourced it to koreans)
Ehasz is a good character writer but The Dragon Prince was painfully boring and derivative
They really need each other to make anything good
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>>217762576
I liked the first three seasons, but he got fucked over with some retarded metoo scandal and had pretty much nothing to do with the story in the later seasons.
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>>217762604
Season 4 had really good fight choreography doe, perhaps the best ever between both series.
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Korra was a cunt at first and ended up being likable. She has much better character development than Aang, but it's just not very smart to start a show with an unlikable title character.
Aang's team was so much better it's not even close. The romance was weird and forced.
Korra had some great villains, but resetting them every season ruined the pacing. It should have been just Amon and the red lotus.
Pro-bending was stupid.
The 1920s setting and the whole technology angle didn't work. The mech battles were retarded. The fire nation having machines in ATLA already felt out of place in a world full of magic.
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>>217762837
>it's just not very smart to start a show with an unlikable title character
If you do it right it's fine
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>>217762408
I blame Nickelodeon. They kept changing how many episodes the writers had from 20+ to 12 which made them wrap everything up somehow in the last 3 episodes.
Then they just wanted one more season, so it was written as stand alone. Then another two, but they again changed how many episodes they were supposed to make and in the end screwed around with the viewing slot, leading to less viewers with S3 and 4.
Don't know why they acted so retarded when ATLA was the next golden cow for them.
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>>217762782
I admit, Season 4 was decent. But it was far too reliant on metalbending rather than actual earthbending. Especially given how Earth Benders in the original Series imo had the best fighting style. Bumi alone has more memorable action scenes than both Bolin and the Season 4 Antagonists combined. Heck, the random Earthbender in the Toph introduction Episode had far more interesting moves than Kuvira's metal plate spam.
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>>217762922
THE BOULDER is pleased with your statement!
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>>217762907
It's not gay if they look feminine.
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>>217763351
They should have scrapped the Season 1 and 2 Antagonists entirely and have the villains be fire nation lost-causers (akin to Neo-Nazis and the Ku-Klux-Klan). It would gave made more sense from an in-universe perspective and a writing perspective (actually connecting ATLA and TLOK by establishing the villain faction as a direct consequence from the OG's Finale). Unalaq was a terrible villain from his conception, the Waterbender ultranationalism made no sense for their culture or politics and TLOK entirely missunderstood the Spirit world from ATLA.
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>>217763491
>TLOK entirely missunderstood the Spirit world from ATLA
I disagree simply because Avatar Wan was really cool, even if it was a retcon
>>217763522
It would have been fine
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>>217763522
Much better than having the entire Antagonist Faction consist of clones of Ty-Lee or turn the Northern Water Tribe into a Vodoo-Fire Nation Rip-off.
>>217763546
I didn't like Wan, but I can see why that ,,arc" is so beloved. But I wasn't referring to the Avatar, more to the dynamic between the white Ghost and Black Ghost whose name I forgot.
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>>217761487
The conceptual idea of Korra herself was not bad. Aang´s journey was classic, he knew how to be the avatar but had to journey to learn to use his power, Korra knew how to use her power but didn´t know how to be the avatar. But that idea the only good thing about Korra.
Her world was boring shit, her companions were forgettable as fuck and the one thing you remember is how they turned the avatar power in a centipede like sentient alien symbiote. And lets not forget how it abandons the beautiful simplicity of classical narratives for complex grey moral shit. Some people just like it because Korra ended up being gay after her journey of self discovery.
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What does she smell like?
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>>217761487
>korra is such a bad avatar she irrepealably destroys the entire system due to her incompetence
why would they do this? after she fucked up so bad it was impossible to like her anymore, she was such a failure
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>>217763926
>better visuals
It relied much more on 3d animation, the choreography was dumbed down and especially in the 1st Season they were sitting around for excessively long times because of budget constraints.
>better characters
It only had one decent Villain, that veing Zaheer (whether you put him in the same league or above the ATLA villains is another story). The Korra gang was entirely forgettable and its entire identity was just shipping and shitty love triangles.
I guess some of Side Characters were ok though, at least Tenzin, Lin, her sister and Varrick.
>better voice acting
I was a dubfag, so I can't judge the English voices. But admittingly, they hired some great VA's for the German version.
>no more humor for toddlers
Literally introduced fartbending.
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>>217761487
Good? Compared to what, to shit? This show was a mistake. At least we got the original and the original is amazing and a sign of the human spirit being divine. But this sequence is the sign of the human corruption which aflicts the human spirit because it is a corruption of what came before. It is the powers that be trying to control this vehicle and put a chick on it and make it lame and gay basically.
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>>217763837
Season 1 is probably the second most overrated after Season 3 without any of the qualities that Season 3 could bring to the table. It's only merit is novelty, but the villain was pisspoor both as a character and an antagonist, the love triangle was unbearable to watch, the plot tediously dragged on like an old chewing gum and Korra was simultaniously insufferable and pitiful to witness as a character.
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>>217762968
>dude why is the 14 yo boy afraid of death, if i was him i would totally get into the giant robot and fight the bad guys without hesitation
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>>217761739
>Season 3 was peak
It's funny but I have yet to find anyone, not a single goddamn soul, who mentions the whole airbender hunt portion of that season. Most even seem to be confused when you mention a solid 1/3rd of the season was dedicated to getting some guy named Kai to join.
Seriously look up the episode lists, a fuckton of time was spent on something NOBODY REMEMBERS and they still insist that season was good.
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This show was shit and Korra is built for BWC.
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Sweaty energetic unprotected leg-lock missionary with Erdführerin Kuvira.
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>>217764553
That was really important to the plot though. New airbenders appear, so they start recruiting randoms to revive the air race, but zaheer and co want to exterminate them. Literally the whole point of the plot
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>>217761487
It was terrible.
But the effects were decent.
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>>217763650
>they turned the avatar power in a centipede like sentient alien symbiote
It was a powerful spirit.
They turned the avatar power into an avatar, and this surprises you?
Do you not know what avatar means?
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>but zaheer and co want to exterminate them
It's funny you say this but that's in no way shape or form true, their stated goal since the start was killing the Avatar. That's it. That's why they got locked up in the first place, that's the only thing they're after by the finale, they don't care about killing the Airbenders at all in the main storyline, they want Korra dead. If you literally removed ONE, SINGLE, line of dialogue, not only does the plot of "Guys who tried to disrupt the world and kill Korra as a kid but were stopped and locked up and now are out to disrupt the world and kill Korra again" still make sense, it makes far, far more sense. The reason nobody remembers the airbenders from the first chunk is the show itself didn't bother tying them into the narrative outside of just showing up at the end. They could have been totally and completely cut and you would not have to change one single scene of Zaheer's storyline outside of the number of people present when he gets a sock stuck in his mouth. His motives don't change, his fights don't change, the finale doesn't change.
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>>217766330
>his fights don't change
He has to become an airbender at minimum though if you're holding it to this standard
The way the airbender plot unfolds is required to justify Zaheer's gain of power and therefore his escape. And Tenzin just shrugging at all the new airbenders and deciding not to go after reviving the air nation would be out of character for him. Thinking about it from the writers perspective, it also gives Tenzin a dramatic purpose, otherwise what would he do? Not to mention the airbenders being attacked is the one thing that ends up getting Korra to surrender after all zaheer's other plans fail, which is characterizing for her.
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intended for >>217766400
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>(besides that half-season where they outsourced it to koreans)
All of the good animation comes from the koreans actually. The bad half season came from when they outsourced it to Japan because the koreans were busy.
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>>217761739
Season 3 was better than ATLA but yeah that's about it. Season 1 was pretty boring, season 2 was a lot of fun but I hated the lore retcons, and after season 3 I didn't even want to watch the last season because I knew it couldn't be as good.
Korra being the pinned post in >>>/aco/ designates her an all-time cultural icon.
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>>217763776
Comics expanded on the gay ending by explaining that Sozin wasn't an evil tyrannical ruler for launching a war of conquest and literally genociding a nation of people.
No, he was a baddie because he banned gay marriage
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>>217762576
tbf The Dragon Prince has 1000x better writing and characters (at least in the early seasons, it totally went to shit in one season and I stopped watching).
Actually where The Dragon Prince falls apart is the heavily generic artstyle, designs and awful animation technology, which is stuff that Korra tended to get right.
Almost like if you take the best qualities of Ehasz and Bryke you end up with a good show...
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>>217762837
>Korra was a cunt at first
>unlikable title character.
Do people that say this are gay or do they just blindly repeat some gay eceleb opinion? I found Korra highly likable and waifuable right from the get go.
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>>217762576
Nah, he was pretty clearly sabotaged there. Don’t get me wrong, the seasons before he got fucked over were hardly Shakespeare either due shit he didn’t think and and the current year compromises he had to make, but the shift after S3 when he got backstabbed and effectively ousted is undeniable
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>>217762837
Pro bending could have been great if they’d embraced the idea of them near completely abandoning the original concepts of bending and instead going for short term and easy to learn gains.
It could have been emblematic of an increasingly soulless society that was straying from the spiritual roots the Avatar embodies, with the participants stunting their own growth due to not grasping the nature of their styles.
Of course this is the same series that introduced industrial lightning bending so I doubt anyone thought that far ahead
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I think the first season is OK and maybe only a bit behind season 1 of ATLA. It would have been better if it was more fleshed out. Amon especially.
Season 2 is horrendous dog shit and good lord I fucking hate it. What a giant piece of shit. Quite literally ruins the entire franchise.
Season 3 is ok, but worsened by the after effects of season 2's events. It has an absolutely kino ending though. Likewise season 4's start is kino but it goes pants on head retarded and jumps the shark about half way through.
As an autistic side note who would you cast as Korra. I feel like I kind of hate the Netflix idea of Water Tribe = Native Americans, because they look nothing like that in the show (even if they are culturally, they aren't ethnically). I feel like a young Rashida Jones would have worked, but she's way too old now, and probably was when Korra released anyway. I just can't quite find an actual phenotype that fits Water Tribe people. They seem to be kinda mixed, or blue-eyed Meds
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>>217770216
Same. I remember when it originally aired thinking I’d have rather seen a show about the stuff Bumi and Iroh got up to prior to LoK because I think there are some interesting ideas they could have run with given they were interesting enough in Korra.But at the end of the day anything that isn’t the original LA has been shit and I don’t know why Nickelodeon keep trying to make a franchise out of this.
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>Villians whoes ideology is hard to fault and is better then the protagonist
>Protagonist fights them because they are bad..? Because, they just are ok!!!???
>Protagonist seems like an asshole for trying to stop them
>Writers make the villain step on a box of puppies after losing the plot
>Protagonists narrow world veiw is justified because the villain was actually Hitler all along!!!
There, I just described all 4 seasons of this show.
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