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>literally impossible to make a good video game to TV series adaptation
Why does this keep on happening? What causes it?
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>>217763257
none of the writers or producers care about the source material at all. There is no care or extra work taken. Most writers are shit too.
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>>217763257
In the case of the first two, they don't respect the source material. They think it needs to be "elevated".
TLOU, besides the terrible Ellie casting, just played out the same way as the games. The second one had an absolute shit story no one asked for.
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>>217764259
Anon the creator of Last of Us worked on his own show.
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>>217763257
Because the idea of making a video game adaptation is inherently stupid.

Games are already an audio/visual medium, and their narratives are specifically written to blend with the pace of gameplay and user input.
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>>217763257
its entirely possible, we just live in a very stupid era of hollywood.
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>>217763257
hundreds of high quality Chinese cartoons based on games
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>>217763257
Fallout is good though. Nobody hates it except emotionally stunted manchildren that can’t enjoy anything that doesn’t exactly play out like their headcanon of a game they played 20 years ago.
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>>217764697
So why hasnt this genre flopped and died? Why do they keep on doing it and burning through more vidya IPs?
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they keep video game adaptions bad so they can perpetuate the stigma of them being a "lesser" genre, because hollywood hebes can't handle losing their old faithful soft-power.
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>>217764962
People said the same thing about anime adaptions, but then Edge of Tomorrow and One Piece worked.
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>>217764818
This. It’s just new vegas trannies getting mad about the already nonsensical “lore” of their comedy action game.
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>>217763257
>literally impossible to make a good video game to TV series adaptation
wrong
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>Video games
Trash for retards
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>>217764259
>DUH SOURCE MATERIUH
the source material is not good to begin with. it's just genreslop to force the ability to create a video game around it. those details are arbitrary and do not matter at fucking all. it was never what made the game good. it was never an inherently good """""""""""""""""story""""""""""""""""" to begin with.
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>>217763257
hollywood is directly competing with the video game industry, and losing badly. they need to do everything they can to drive audiences away from video games.
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>>217764652
Yeah and the first season was good for normies.
But he fucked the secone game so HARD they had to cast an atractive female to play the BUTCH ROIDED antagonist in the second season, and they fucking failed to realize their Ellie was shit but without Pascal covering for her nobody liked her acting.
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>>217765054
Go watch season 2.
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>>217763257
Games are old media's competition that they have been replaced by. No shit they do everything they can to make them look bad.
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>>217765093
Bella isn’t used to playing non-child roles I think. It’s why her line delivery was so off (such as during the infamous “I’m gonna be a dad” scene.)
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>>217763257
they make them shitty on purpose so when they get a shit reception hollywood execs can point to them and say "see? video games aren't art, only we can make true art."
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>>217764652
yes someone who hated the source material of the first game and retconned it after it made him huge bux
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>>217763257
>literally impossible
It's not impossible. The problem is that writers absolutely do not give a fuck and would rather insert their own story into a setting than actually adapt a setting. It's not just video games either. There are plenty of shitty adaptations of novels, biographies, real world events, etc. They turned fucking Pearl Harbor into a Titanic knock off.
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>>217764697
What i really want to know is, why the fuck do normalfags have such a need for everything under the sun to get remade in the regular live action film medium? Video games aren't amazing as art but they're such a unique medium. Why water that down to put the story on TV?
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>>217765109
Honestly i'm starting to believe that Neil Druckmann was a Hollywood plant and TLOU was made with the mission to destroy the gaming industry
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>>217763257
Old mortal kombat series was pretty good, fallout first season was ok
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>>217764818
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>>217765085
good evening, or good morning for those (You) being paid to post
for this thread I will be (You)r designated bait recipient and primary sincere thread respondent
tell me, why bother to make a show based off of an existing IP if not to gather viewers familiar with the IP's story? And if there are several potential viewers familiar with the original IP's story, would that not imply there was merit to the original IP's story?
-sincerely, Anon from the east coast posting a certified non AI or ESL post
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>>217764652
Yeah and he hates his own game. It's weird.
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Has anyone seen this clip IGN posted?
https://youtu.be/ZOudMTuu2p0
>"Over the years, my body became something of a target for wandering travellers with something to prove. I have been poisoned, shot, bludgeoned with a crowbar."
>travellers, plural
>implied to have survived the attacks
I don't even know how to make sense of this statement at all. He was just letting random people walk into his underground chamber, they attack him and let him live for some reason, then they leave?
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>>217765131
I can kinda understand it. Writers want to make their own story not tell someone else's.
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>217765257
its rare for a post to be so obviously paid for
you would have to be legitimately braindead to not understand
and then of course, posting the trailer
I will respond to you only if you post a range of slurs that go against your HR department/contract
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>>217765210
The show does exactly what you said, but NV Troons think that “Fallout” is just NV, and none of the other games are canon.
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>>217763257
>What causes it?
Profoundly defective autistic brains monofocused on video games and thinking that's the entire world, and want a "quality" show based on it. You aren't actually capable of knowing what quality is, or you wouldn't have anything to do with any of it.
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>>217765539
>The show does exactly what you said
Forgive me but I'll need some clarity.
Do you merely mean its *aesthetically similar to and or moderately associated with* said IP, or do you mean *it accurately uses the story/lore of the IP*, and or perhaps *it uses the story and lore of the IP in some capacity, at least in enough of a capacity so as not to significantly impact the themes and or story trajectory of the games*
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>>217763257
They hire people who dont play video games or actually hate the source material to make this shit anon. Hollyweird is filled with legit psychotic freaks like this, they spend millions of dollars just to shit on franchises of things they dont like because boys like it.

This isnt even a secret, go look up interviews with the show runners
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It really is the worst outcome
>'gamers' want more respect for their medium in the 00's-10's
>a popular argument is to make narrative exposition and gameplay "like movies" to compete
>results in walking simulators at worst and heart-wrenching stories at best
>AAA games fill their writing teams with parasitic jackasses and agenda pushers for this very profitable new 'respectable' industry
>Screen entertainment has to adapt by pandering to this millenial era logic of making cool games movies, because it's not competing
>megacorps compete with independent creators for screentime by pandering for profit
>as TV original portrayals are written by source material haters from too-big-to-fails with a phantom elitism in mind, justifying a TV (NOT)copy plot
>and games are increasingly dependent on playing it 'safe' in the mixed-media audience to keep this profit up, at the mercy of an original idea to copy and burn to death

Mixed media is becoming about corrupting or modifying the original thing, like The Last of Us, rather than something like Forward Unto Dawn, showing something talked about but not game inclusive. Too busy justifying their jobs.

If we need to adapt something directly between mediums, I would've loved All Roads rather than this.
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>>217765085
>genreslop
place yourself in a saw trap pls
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>>217764818
the Fallout show isn't good on it's own or as an adaptation
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>>217763257
T hey have an actor, they want to have him act, people like to see motion out of a character, they dont want to watch a tv showing a still image of another tv showing a still image. I understand that’s not how it was in the video game, but you’re asking for so much loyalty in this case that the show wouldn’t even be able to operate in the genre its in.
THAT BEING SAID this whole show is ill-fated dreck and everything in it does land like shit
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>>217765085
Halo 1 - 3 is an awesome sci-fi story and you can fuck your granny
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>>217764818
Some artists and teams can make great adaptations, but otherwise a lot of money can be made grafting IPs into different mediums to transfer their audience.
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>>217766532
I agree, and Halo has a more specific linear narrative than Fallout. Halo DOES act like a movie in its theatrics and action flow. Fallout is more like a collection of cynical short stories and gags you discover in the long silence of a big map
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>>217764259
/Thread
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>>217763257
who put her in cheerge
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>>217765623
Doesn’t NV have like 20 endings? Are you just mad that your headcanon isn’t being represented?
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>>217763257
1. Video games have shit writing anyway
2. Hollywood are shit writers and directors
3. Why do you need video game movies/shows? just play the vidya
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>>217763257
Because they are fucking video games.
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>>217764962
Because lowest common denominator
>>217764983
Barely, that was star power, that and it originated as a light novel, for the latter, that can be a given, but still a lucky draw
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>>217763257
Videogames got the bad part of the 90s and 00s entertainment industry. Then Hollywood just became incapable of producing good entertainment altogether in the 2010s.

I get that it's complicated to take a story that was structured around gameplay and fill in the gaps with something that isn't just slop, especially given that even a short videogame is 30 hours long, but a talented director who's a fan of the game should be able to do it.
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>>217767346
NV has the most endings of any of them if i remember correctly
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>>217764962
The producers of the game consider a show, or movie, a form of advertising their product. So, it's not uncommon for the game company to pay part of the production cost of an adaptation to boost sales.
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>>217765210
Fallout did gather viewers familiar to the story. In fact, it's easily better than some of the games in said IP. The problem is that one chunk of that in-built audience will always shit their pants and cry whenever something comes out that isn't the one fallout game they liked.
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>>217765257
This was the singlemost retarded line of the entire season. At no point is House's secret life support chamber even established. There is no point of reference for this line.

Anyone who hasn't played the games, doesn't even know where his body is. Anyone who has played the games knows that if you open the chamber, he's fucked from his 200-something year old body being exposed to an unsterile environment.

Why even bother with the line? Why is he alive after being attacked? Is he an AI now? How did he wrest control from Yes Man?
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>>217765257
Nigga, he's an AI duplicate. Real house has been dead for 15+ years.
And you get the idea that he can probably see recordings from that chamber, right?
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>>217764652
Druckmann is an actual pretentious retard though
Probably one of the biggest hacks in existence
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>>217767346
canon isn't even represented in the show so I don't know why you think this is an argument
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>>217765257
Yeah its a tonal gag that included the original game, basically making dark humor out of how slipshod these dystopian operations are that they are vulnerable to any old brute can just come in and put a few bullets in the leader (which is funnily enough exactly what fallout is like). And then its even funnier House, who in the games and here is characterized as a master planner to a point of comic absurdity (the way he spins being reduced to a corpse attached to a computer into a type of victory for him in the game, is both intelligent and pathetic), so his apparent nonchalance about losing his body further, fits right in with the character and this theming, and is tied directly into so many real-world mutilating immortality and cryostasis schemes attempted by the precise generation of people and wealth level that correspond to House’s character
Thats the structure of the joke at least and it does work for the attempted tone, matches the original games well enough, too
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>>217763257
Fallout is good though
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I FUCKING HATE that OP pic because it implies the House actor was a miscast or that it doesn't look like the game one somehow
I fucking hate kids and their distorted reality thinking that "the world has a lot of people so somewhere, there MUST be someone that's 1:1 to this made up character and they better get him"
And they did, it's on the fucking show
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>>217763257
>OP is this wrong
>posts the literal GOAT at it while being wrong
good lord its embarrassing to be out
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>>217768068
Yeah they are used to their characters being 3D models edited down to the bone lol
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>>217767883
There is no canon.
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>>217763257
Why can't we get a script that is literally so good and life changing that it brings the entertainers to tears when the read it?
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>>217763257
Season 1 of TLOU was good though
Season 1 of fallout was decent as well
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it's quite simple
the video game ip is there to have mass appeal brand recognition
when you make a show for wide audience, you have to dumb it down, not just for the retarded whites watching, but also for the endless brown masses of the world watching a dubbed version
you keep mistakenly attributing bad writing to writer incompetence. No, it's designed to be simplistic, easily followed, translatable, and understood by people with no education and teenagers
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>>217763257
>/tv/ says fallout is woke slop
>everyone ITT now defending it saying its a good adaption
So which is it?
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>>217768911
it's just shills and people pretending to be shills because people get triggered by the shills. most people that actually do like or hate this shit don't bother posting about it because it's just people flinging shit at each other perfomatively in every thread and then that retarded k-drama fag will show up to out the shill cherry on top of the cake of shill shit.

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