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Q: Is there a better depiction of good vs. evil in film?

A: No, there isn't
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I wouldn't argue, brother.
Anons, if you haven't seen this you should. It is one of the GOATS.
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I watched the trailer and it was a bunch of child actors doing some of the worst acting I've ever seen so I think I'll pass
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>>217766269
Incredible film. One of the few BluRay discs I've purchased.
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It's a crime nobody puts effort like this into movies.
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>>217766269
>only film Laughton ever directed
>solely because the film was absolutely destroyed by critics
>now recognized as one of the greatest films of all time
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Charles Laughton, better known for being a fat zero on screen made this, and it is the amazing one hit wonder.
He probably liked to drink instead of tard wrangle his fellow dunkards.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS MOVIE YOU DO NOT KNOW MOVIES.
Seriously.
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>>217767500
Objectively stupid post
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>>217766269
>le good and evil
Lord of the Rings
in this sloppa, the kid tries to protect an evil serial killer who tried to serial kill him moments earlier and serial killed his mom
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>>217767500
That seems reasonable.
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>>217767617
>>217767830
Laughton quit because he was already rich and all the actors made fun of him for being amateur on set. The kid actor was the real director
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>>217767617
We were robbed, imagine all the Laughton kino we might've gotten had this been a commercial success
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>>217767881
>amateur
Fuck off, capeshitter.
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>>217768246
don't shoot the messenger. it was 75 years ago I'm not at fault
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>>217767881
Mitchum lauded him in his AGI lifetime achievement award speech. I've never heard anything but praise for his work on this film. He didn't "quit" directing, he just didn't make any money at it and was essentially kept from ever trying again.

At any rate, the film is a masterpiece. Even Spike Lee paid homage to him. That's saying something.
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>>217768328
yeah it's one of the greatest films ever made, but it took a village
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>>217767859
Gish and Mitchum were the good and evil characters, the shepherd and the wolf. Everyone else was either a child or naive moralist. It's also inherently more Christian than LotR... but anyway, you're comparing a book to a film.

At least I hope..
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>>217766269
Night time footage of this was the most kino I've seen. Just college students holding onto their campus (+ legal system where rule of law is applied, not ppl going missing for bs reasons) while cicipee tried to drive them out. The Siege of HK Polytechnic Univ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E9qFiTc6go
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>>217768388
That touch of realism clouds the fantasy. Good guys should have a halo of light around them and bad guys should be utterly disgusting at all times, to reflect the symbolic nature of good and evil. Therefore the lotr FILM is a superior representation. If you want gritty grimy pomo shit, watch a gangster film
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>>217766269
About to marathon this. Will report back after if the thread is still up
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>>217768440
That good and evil are explicitly depicted the entire time is exactly why I like it so much. It doesn't have any grey areas to mull over. The line between good and evil, hero and villain, are neatly drawn. Maybe you should watch it again.

Btw Tolkien is one of my favorite authors.
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>>217766269
I was genuinely shocked how good this was.
Great film.
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>>217768527
>good vs evil film
>85% of screen time is people who are neither
>10% is the evil guy who's a suave leading man
>the good guy is a little old lady who only appears at the end
hmmm
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>>217768582
You may have a point if the opening scene wasn't the suave man confessing to murder. If your beef is that evil people have to be portrayed as ugly, I could understand that. Still wouldn't make me think Peter Jackson's junk is better than this by any metric.
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>>217768620
I'd also point out there's a lot of ambiguity in the Jackon films, even among the heroes, which undermines your argument.
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>>217768620
Morally, this film exists in an uncomfortable gray area between fantasy like LOTR and reality. It's actually an underrated reason why the public couldn't handle it at the time, and why we see the masterpiece today: depraved serial killer fiction is much more popular now. There's an argument to be made that child killing psychopaths shouldn't be played by charming superstar actors, in the visual language of cinema etc., or that the story has no real leg to stand on in terms of a message -- today we see the beautiful emotions and performances, but "don't trust the bad guy" isn't a good enough message to support the brutal story. Is it even for kids, not really. It's much, much better with comfortable hindsight where we can put most of those concerns to rest.
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Beautiful cinematography but everything else sucks. Acting is Tommy Wiseau tier. People generally put all the blame on the kids but the adults are no better. The scene where the father is vocalizing his thought process about where to hide the money is straight out of a parody movie.
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>>217768432
>a nation reclaiming land that was stolen from it by the UK while a bunch of clueless young people brainwashed by literal CIA pro-american propaganda hold up signs is the best good vs evil story you've ever seen

It's morally grey at best and it's not even kino. You only posted this because you have China Derangement Syndrome from huffing too much American propaganda
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>>217768807
>it's bad because of a guy with half a dozen lines
hmmmm
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>>217768731
did u just chatgpt that bruh
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>>217768843
no, I talk like that.
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>>217766269
let's be honest, the movie turns to shit after the kids go down the river and they end up at the old woman's house
>big bad serial killer chased off and defeated by a single old woman with a shotgun because he stupidly tries direct attacks on the house when that was never his style
did they just not know how to end the movie?
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>>217768825
It's like that through the entire fucking movie. Most of the actors rush through their lines with dogshit delivery. Mitchum has to carry the entire film on his back and even then they hamstring the guy by making him do shit like arm wrestle himself.
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>>217768867
LEA-NING
LEANING
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>>217768807
Anlot of that sort of thing was stylistic choice. It's very old fashioned for the time it was made, with lots of elements from silent films, stage acting and even vaudeville. That part is pretty funny to the modern ear, though. Surprised you mentioned that over say the exaggerated lurching arms chasing the children out of the cellar, or his yelping and screaming into the barn.
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>>217768867
No way! The second half is where it really takes off. Great movie.
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>>217768843
So many of you retards jump straight to this when anyone on this board is even remotely eloquent.
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>>217768922
shut up hoe, u deleted the emdash and added two dashes and hit send u plagiarizing ass nigga
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>>217768921
yeah that girl at the orphanage becoming a prostitute was really important for the story
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>>217768945
not sure how that meme even came about as many people's phones will just convert the double dash. For me, comma, comma, comma gets repetitive. I like to mix it up with the occasional colon and dash.
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>>217768976
somebody had to show weakness and young nigga john connor was too on point
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>>217768328
>Even Spike Lee paid homage to him. That's saying something.
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>>217768945
I'm not the guy you originally responded to and I have never used AI so I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Stop using Ebonics, it's unbecoming.
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>>217768945
You AI radar is off, anon. Human beings are still capable of writing paragraphs.
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>>217768825
>I feel clean now. My whole body's just a-quivering with cleanness.
>Awkwardly walks away
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>>217769054
I don't even remember this line. The beginning of the movie feels so far away once it gets going.
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literally the greatest film ever, even with the rushed ending
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Movie is very theological. One has to have a fairly solid understanding of Christian orthodoxy to not miss a lot of the themes. It's like when modern people read Moby Dick and just think it's gay and miss that the whale is a metaphor for God, lol. Anyway it's a pretty good flick.
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>>217769232
dumbass dad who shoots a bank teller and takes money is actually Jesus?
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>>217769257
Sure
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>>217769277
>dad is Jesus
>kids are mankind
>mom is I guess judaism
>townsfolk are the roman empire
>Mitchum is the big S
>Gish is God
>city is still babylon
kino alert
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>>217768473
Back. I liked it a lot. I do think that the acting is the worst part of the film, and weirdly enough the opening section is the weakest. John is an entertaining character and I enjoyed seeing him wrestle with Powell. Overall it was shot well and there were a couple fantastic scenes. That scene where John wakes up and sees Powell singing while riding across the horizon line was genuinely horrifying. Also the scene where he's walking around the house calling out for them. A lot of my gripes with this film come from personal preferences since i'm generally not too fond of the overly sappy dialogue/acting of this era. Still a great film

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