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Season 2 has ended.
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>robby "I have no life outside this ED"
Really? He seems to have a regular dating life and was a good stepdad to jake. Langdon says he has a cool bachelor pad. Duke is very good friends with him. Abbot knows him super well and he's his emergency contact. He's into motorcycle culture. He doesn't seem like the loser he makes himself out to be.
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>>219806574
You are now noticing how fucking hot she is... likely insanely hot.
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look out, Dr Mackey, your cancer patient came back from the death to steal more screentime
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could Dr. Robby save a patient after Mckay constricts them?
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I think this season really proves that you can't do character development like people write it on most shows with the Pitt's format. This season mostly sucks because compared to doing actual medicine so much screen time is dedicated to everyone being a wreck and having personal shit, but then since it's still one shift they can't get explicit payoff for stuff like Robby getting talked out of suicide or Mohan and her mommy issues and the rest and have to resort to symbolic scenes like Robby and the baby.
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>listening to Prestige TV pod about the finale
>guy hosting the show says he interprets Hashimi's last few episodes as a culmination of the theme of people concealing their flaws to achieve their goals, and he thinks her hitting the brakes and the car and crying is her acceptance of her issues
>female co-host of the shows interjects and says Hashimi's actor just did an interview where she says she believes in that scene Al Hashimi is crying because she thinks she is right and Robby is wrong
kek
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Season 1 felt like more happened. Santos had way more wins and got Langdon dismissed, now all she does is complain. We had the school shooter, the Pittfest shooting, Robby's meltdown, the birth of Huckleberry's nickname, everyone got a full proper crashout.
This season we get... Al Sashimi and her 10 second silent seizures, the TV's turning off and Asian lady remembering all the names on the board, uh... Langdon teasing he is going to kill himself for 12 episodes just to cry that being a doctor is le hard. Oh and the ICE storyline which goes nowhere at all (the nurse has been forgotten about entirely)
First season felt the format fit the story they were telling, this season the plot felt more like a slower typical streaming drama with cheap cliffhangers at the end of every episode
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>>219807099
Yeah, man. You're told all your life that by a certain age you should have a family, a house, all that. Robby doesn't. He's a creature of the ED, shaped by it as much as he's shaped it. He doesn't take vacations and the only reason he's taking one now is because he wants to kill himself.
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>man sucks about that no life or whatever robbie, wish I could help ya
>*hops into truck delivered to him by his prime widow pussy*
>*starts blasting "alabama nigger" at max volume*
>*puts car in reverse*
>*rams into robbie's bike*
>just don't do it on my dayshift alright?
>*widows head is no longer visible in the passangers seat*
>*slams the pedal and leaves robbie in a cloud of smoke*
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>>219807165
I watched the first 5 eps in a batch but the rest week by week and I still felt S1 was more of a "substantial" season even watching it the normal way.
S1 leaned into the fact that it was basically a soap opera but with HBO budget. Every patient had a 0.01% twist diagnosis or some shit, everyone either wants to fuck each other or kill each other, the biggest event a city's history just happens on everybody's first day, etc. They dialed up everything to 11 at all times.
Season 2 felt like the hangover of season 1. It still had its moments but they had to up the intensity and it felt more abated. Not a bad season though, the conflicts just weren't as exciting.
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>>219807243
>noooooo you can't fucking do that make it illegal make it illegal!
Damn, women on the internet really are jealous sad sacks. worse than incels.
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>>219807237
People were saying that with the black doc in s1. Maybe it's a nothingburger, or maybe we get the full bon appetit treatment with social media namecalling, apologies and the whole thing cancelled. You never know.
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Is this kind of "characterization by overlapping object in the background" stuff ever not corny? This really looks as bad as Daenerys with the dragon wings.
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>ICE scares all the illegals out so actual Americans can get health services
and this is a bad thing?
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>>219807399
it's corny because it's contrived, it's contrived because the writers/director are afraid audiences could miss it.
It'd work better if it lasted barely a few frames.
Also it should have been the baby being the new light for robby. These leftoid writers are so fucking clueless with their messaging.
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Since the "HBO production, CW fanbase" characterization for the audience obviously seems correct (just look on twitter), let's recap the supernatural theories from last thread.
>Shark
> head vampire of Pittsburgh, everyone is terrified of his power. Garcia is his thrall.
>Abbot
> Got bitten in the Middle East and is a Daywalker. Part of the reason there's tension between the ED and Surgery is that the aristocratic and powerful Shark only allows superior specimens to take the dark gift, but Abbot is from a different bloodline and selects his Night Stalkers based on competency and vibes.
>Matteo
> Turned by Abbot a few months ago, hence his new vampire look and superior attitude
>Mohan
> Being slowly seduced by Abbot, she's off and woozy this season due to the blood loss.
>Langdon
> He was suggested to join Shark's coven by Garcia, but Robby found out and stopped the process, Langdon is half-vampire and dealing with his growing need for blood.
>Robby
> Part of his breakdown is over his helplessness in the face of the growing supernatural threat in the Pitt. if anything but mortal, Robby is a demon.
>Duke
> Vampire-hunter that Robby found and convinced to come into the ED in the hopes he'd notice the curse.
> Whitaker
> is the phantom of the third floor or whatever. He's a fellow denizen of the night but he doesn't possess the dark gift.
>Al-Hashimi
> is cursed, the bomb that hit her hospital in the Middle East disturbed a wrathful spirit. It's why Robby wants rid of her, he sensed it, and why Abbot was interested, he picked up the dark energy around her.
>Ogilvie
> Changeling
>McKay
> Was a succubus but was exorcised and imprisoned, she's cured now, but the old urges remain. It's why she's dick-hungry and was sucking the life out of that woman all season.
> Joy
> is a kuei-jin
Where does this put us with Santos? Mel? Javadi and her mom?
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>>219807842
is this you?
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>mcckay in that outfit
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>female co-host of the shows interjects and says Hashimi's actor just did an interview where she says she believes in that scene Al Hashimi is crying because she thinks she is right and Robby is wrong
Is it Joanna Robinson? I'm not listening to this one but I listened to the Succcesion podcasts and she spends the whole time trying to will her headcanon into existence about how Shiv Roy is the most morally upstanding character on the show and how she'll win in the end .
She is well known on the subreddits for being a cartoonish 2010s liberal feminist. She recently did a Knight if the Seven Kingdoms podcast where she was cheering for that whore baby trapping the Green Apple Fossaway guy with another man's baby. She is literally an insane liberal.
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>>219808378
yea it is Joanna. That's crazy I didn't know she was that bad. I listened to most of the season 2 pitt episodes. I know her boss Mallory Rubin better although I don't touch the star wars shit she does.
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>>219808325
>that guy behind them
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>all these "I don't drink alcohol!" doctors
oh my god please. makes me want to go back to Grey's Anatomy seasons 1-5 where there's several episodes of them getting shitfaced at the bar across the street then getting paged to come in for an emergency surgery
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>>219808466
Can't believe he was Goose in Top Gun, the norwood reaper comes for us all
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>>219808540
He wouldn't know what to do with himself. It's utterly alien to me but a lot of people are like that. They can't think of anything to spend their time on if it's not working, eating, sleeping, and consuming media in between the aforementioned activities.
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This scene was cut. What would their conversation be about?
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>>219808325
This season was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking bad. What the fuck is this? We joked about an ending where they all go to the rooftop but they should've also all killed themselves and let the show end
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there's an after credits scene
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They realized they botched her character by making her shittalk her ED coworkers to Whitaker. Robby even gave her arguably the best line of the season doing that surgery with Shamsi where he says "Dr. Javadi, why don't you glove up and show Dr. Shamsi why you belong in this ED?" But nah, she reaffirms her mother's scrutiny by saying if you stay in the ED you become a headcase retard.
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she eepy
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Robby is a genuine workaholic and would never retire on principle. You meet people with that same sort of savior complex IRL who are so fixated on work that they willingly put themselves through hell until they keel over. My grandfather never retired and kept working 5 days a week till he died at 77 from a heart attack.
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>Javadi pretty much calling Mel a weird retard like we didn't see Javadi act like one around Mateo in season 1
>Javadi still not trusting Mckay and writing her off as convict
>Javadi shit talking Robby even though he went above and beyond uplifting her while shittalking her mom at the same time
Why is Javadi so damn cruel? We're supposed to like her?
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Has there ever been a case of blatant medical malpratice in this series? I think it's unrealistic that every operation the doctors perform ends up working and if they don't save a patient it's because they had no chance of surviving anyway.
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>>219806768
>and was a good stepdad to jake.
Do you not remember what happened last season?
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The way he talks about her, likely not, but that doesn't mean she doesn't totally want to.
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The first 8 episodes were super good but it meandered towards the end. Hate how they introduce a shit load of new characters. Santos, Mel, McKay, and Whitaker were more in the background this season because of it.
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>>219809103
My Twitter page is just girls thirsting for his piss
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>>219809017
I liked it, it's good in a vacuum, despite being an obvious step down and disappointment compared to season 1.
It might have a problem where, in hindsight, no one can really think of what the main theme or defining big event of this season was. Whereas for season 1 it's the Pittfest shooting.
>oh no, a ransomware attack which caused the day crew to have to stay late and be tired, but which had little to no effect on their ability to treat patients
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>>219809180
It doesn't have to follow a template, but the fact remains those last 4 episodes of season 1 are gripping and rewatchable in a way that nothing in season 2 is.
It wouldn't have been following a template if, as many expected, this season had ended with a big dramatic Robby suicide attempt... which could have been remembered as the theme of the season but also didn't happen
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In some regards the format of the show i.e let's follow a day shift from start to finish makes it difficult to mesh with a traditional TV show season where the audience expects a 'big climax'.
Obviously in S1 we had the Pittfest incident but then going forward if you're writing the show you can't really have every season have a big inciting incient bang on three quarters of the way into every season because then it becomes a bit hokey. Like if the audience expects that to happen every time.
But at the same time you can't have a whole season of a slow shift where nothing happens because that's boring to watch. I'm not entirely sure what the solution is. You could have a season where the Big Thing™ happens first and then you're trying to milk that and the fallout from it for the rest of the season but in a sense that's what they attempted with S2's cyber shutdown. I don't know where they go from here.
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>>219809284
How about... it's a scenario where they're dealing with the start of a new pandemic, something comparable to the viruses in Contagion or Station Eleven.
Robby has to figure out how to handle it without letting his covid PTSD completely cripple him
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they look like oversized toddlers. seriously why is it impossible for this show to cast beautiful women and handsome men?
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>>219808290
The day shift descends into darkness (chaos) making each episode in theory more tense than the last
The night shift would start getting brighter in the last few episodes. It's not like it can't be done, just the day shift better depicts the descent to madness type more intuitively I think
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I thought Robby might toss Mohan a bone in the ambulance bay but no he really was insistent on being a dick to her to the bitter end for no reason lol
(Writer's note: Samira Mohan died on the way back to her home planet and will not be returning to S3 of The Pitt)
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>>219809378
>impossible
It does cast them, just not necessarily as likable/tolerable characters
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S1: "We like to have a moment of silence whenever a patient passes"
S2: uh oh stinky *lifts body and fart noise plays*
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>>219807243
women move on fast don't they
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Is this a believable character to you?
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>>219810274
Um mate he died and did a poopy in his pants, that's the joke. It's funny! Who fucking cares what his medical problem was or whether he could have been seen on time. His family? Who gives a shit. Let nightshift handle that old codger and his shat nappy. Let's get the death note fudged, Robby and Dana are on board it's beer o'clock baby fuck yeah!
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>>219809485
He's white, they can't show compassion towards him on television.
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I'm not watching season 3, what an absolutely awful season. I don't want to sound like a chud but the left leaning shit was way way too much, even season 1 had a lot but at least the show was entertaining but this time it was just bad
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Did you see him act on some other show and he was dogshit there or something? Because so far on this show, he's just doing one register, he's flat and unfazed. He does that alright, but you don't really need to be a good actor to do it. If they keep him just doing that and being an exposition delivery vehicle, he will be OK but a boring character. I'm personally OK with that because I watch the show for the medicine and not the character drama, but I guess if you want the character drama then that sucks.
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Am I the only one who liked the character writing here a lot more?
I feel like doctors were allowed to disagree with eachother, and the show forced our hand a lot less. Santos gets to actually look bad which Season 1 refused to let ever happen, and there was way less,
"I say the thing, that the writer clearly believes" and no one reacting at all to it.
What I didn't like, was the lack of screentime for some characters. Why does Existtaker get almost nothing while Cancer McGee gets a gorillian episodes? Why do we just drop certain paitents and their storylines, like the asian couple?
Overall though I think that Season 2 had a stronger first 2/3rds for me, but Season 1 definitely had the stronger last 1/3rd.
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I'll admit I'm probably more liberal than a lot of people on 4chan (americans IRL tell me I sound like how their liberals sounded in the late 00s/early 10s), but it seems ridiculous to me that not even here can I escape this sort of ideological purity-testing discourse. Wasn't doing this - counting "representation" character per character and line by line - precisely what leftists were being ridiculed for?
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Opinion: They need to lean into the soapiness or something to keep me engaged.
I don't care about patients beyond a certain point
I wanna see drama between the main cast... like I know it's absurd but let me see Landon's family.
I wanna see Mckay going on a date
Whitaker and santos laughing at a movie while living together etc
But it's a chance my beef is just with the format of the show and all this stuff is impossible to do.
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Earlier in the season Robby specifically tells Whitaker he disapproves of Whitaker giving so much of his time and energy to some dead guy's wife and kid. Then we end Whitaker's S2 with him getting into the widow's truck with her wife and kid after a 15 hour shift so he can drive back to her farm and shovel shit for another 8 hours, presumably while she gets fucked by another man, and Robby's response is to look on, smirk lovingly and remark to himself "heh, that's my boy".
What's the message here?
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>>219810967
I think Hollywood people tend to underestimate how emotionally detached people outside of their bubble are. Partially because they are all from California and the very lefty part of it (culture values being vulnerable etc), partially because they are actors and they have to be always thinking about emotional states and inner lives of characters.
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>>219811226
Not quite. I more just want another ER. There can be a balance.
But again, kinda hard to change the format at this point.
Be interesting to see how many seasons they make, but I'm losing interest quick.
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I put that line in as a joke but my point still stands.
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Frank Langdon obvioulsy (he did nothing wrong).
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>alcoholic man that keeps being warned to stop drinking dies
>OH NOOOO WERE ALL SO SAD
>lonely old man dies after not being treated for 10+ hours in the fucking waiting room
>HEHE HE POOPOO'D HIMSELF
this entire season was terrible
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>>219811299
> with her wife
huh?
> presumably while she gets fucked by another man
if that's the presumption you jumped to, you got some insecurities my man. Log off twitter. (I'm not telling you this to make fun of you, seriously, just find whatever pushes ragebait onto you and stop going there.)
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OH MY SYMBOLISM
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>>219811527
Look at this whitey getting detained !!! Look at this whitey shitting in his pants !!! Look at this whitey blowing his face with a firework !!! Look at this beautiful black person getting mistreated because of her amazing skin color !!!
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When Becca's sister talking about the thing she likes to watch, is she talking about ALF the TV show or ELF the movie?
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They knew that they are getting s3 funded before writing s2, so they are putting out cliffhangers moreso than with s3.
Part of what made The Wire good was that every season David Simon didn't know how many seasons HBO was gonna bankroll so every season can be watched as a thing in itself.
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why do americans do this?
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>>219807189
Underrated.
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emotional damage for me it was roxie, lung cancer. but for sheer brutality probably that pregnancy on the finale. pretty sure if they hadn't saved her robby would've got on his bike and not even make it to the canyon, just throw himself straight into the pittsburgh river.
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>>219811794
Oddly for me, it was the old slightly deaf guy who came in with his family. Not the time he came in for the low blood pressure, but when he came in after with his hand torn asunder.
Diabetes runs rampant in my family so I've been scared all my life of developing it when I get older. I couldn't imagine have such nerve damage that I can barely feel my hand bones being ripped open
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It has a little bit of everything. The majority is medical competency porn and its sort of the main attraction, but there's tons of other classic television elements. So even if you don't care about the medical stuff specifically, you can still watch it as a backdrop to everything else. Some legitimately great characters and rewarding character moments that build slowly each season.
I don't know how to explain it but it just feels like old school television from the 2000s
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>roxie
>louie
>kid with his fingers blown off
>student with schizophrenia
>the rape victim
>the woman that tried to kill his son and then herself
Off the top of my head, pretty miserable shift, no wonder everyone was crying at the end of the day
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>>219808540
He's like 55 in-universe just like his actor and you really can't just retire at that age unless you get a fat pension package. Even then I think you gotta wait till like 60 or something.
Also, he simply just won't, dude's a workaholic with a savior complex, his need to save all his patients is exactly what fuels his suicidal ideation. For every patient he can't save he develops survivor's guilt, and as someone who went through survivor's guilt it is not pretty and it is brutal.
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Al Hashimi must've known that Robby would never let her stay knowing her condition. He already had issues letting go and having faith in her. She should have used those puppy dog eyes to seduce and Whitaker him.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDJE1lAzrC8&list=RDFDJE1lAzrC8&start_r adio=1
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Yes except ER did it a million times better because it wasn't constrained by the whole "entire season is one shift" bullshit.
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>pudgy tummy croptop
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Agreed, I like the character work too. I thought the pittfest mass shooting was actually a super contrived way to ramp up tension at the end of the season. And hey it also ticks a culture war box, yay. I dont mind that S2 didn't tried for a character arc over forced plot arc.
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I liked the character writing but I hate that we had so much of it. I wanted the show about medicine, not about doctors (kinda how Generation Kill is not about specific soldiers, it is about the Iraq war itself told through the lens of these soldiers).
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> It looked like she had furious sex
Well she is furiously and royally fucked by being no longer able to drive or function as a doctor so there's that
(although I guess the actress is confirmed for s3 so they will probably make a way for her to stay on)
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its for the best, if they tried to one up the tension of handling a mass shooting incident they would force themselves into an unsustainable loop of upping the ante too much each season. needed to find a way to create different types of tensions and figure out different ways to end a season and I think they did a pretty good job
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> they would force themselves into an unsustainable loop of upping the ante too much each season
There's also something like a limited series. Just commit to 2-3 seasons, do 2-3 seasons with different calamities in the ED, and pull the plug. That's it, that's the story.
You can't sustain a good level of quality over more than ~4 seasons anyway, the Wire is the textbook example of a "this is why HBO is prestige TV" show and even there the quality dips noticeably with S5. Might as well limit your scope from the outset.
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>>219809425
Not that it excuses it, but I liked the sadness in his voice because he realized he went too far with her and can never build their relationship back up, but refused to give up his shittiness. It was a very real moment for an asshole like him.
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>>219807056
This is why it’s so destructive to have women in leadership positions. The average female has an ego 5x larger than Trump’s and is more petty, vindictive, and delusional.
Trump in many ways is a foreshadowing of what it’s like to have a woman president.
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>>219814629
Recently, someone kept shouting "Santos" at one of her performances. She's still nominally loyal to the fans because there's a hard split between the White men that hate the fans and the brown women that love the fans, but she will join the Boyz Klub (We Fucking Hate Fans) soon
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>>219807200
Yeah they definitely blew their load with the mass shooting.
They could do another MCI but then are they stuck repeating the exact same formula each season?
They tried to amp up the tension with the cyber attacks but essentially the consequence was… a bunch of paperwork and headaches. Not all that thrilling.
So they are stuck with Rabbi’s suicide plotline which in the end went nowhere… no attempt, no psych hold, no resolution. Just blueballs.
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>>219807355
They are mentally ill Redditors so they probably just can’t see how a healthy, happy relationship where both parties’ incentives align is a good thing. Someone needs to sacrifice something or be unhappy or self sabotage otherwise it can’t be “real love”.
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>Hey I know we've only known each other for 14 hours and you seem very unstable and possessive about this ER but i think i can trust you with my secret
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T WORK IN YOUR ER?!?
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He also totally nuked her career. The ultimatum is basically
>withdraw your application to overtake me
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>I will make sure no one will ever hire you for a senior position ever again
Cold af, especially considering how much of a fuckup Robby is. He just doesn't consider all his psychological problems match up with her one medical problem.
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Within the larger metanarrative that the US medical industry is built to explode and cannot be reformed, only destroyed and replaced, Robby takes the role of the well-meaning collaborator. He will never concede anything to that reality and will make things worse for everyone in the name of "doing things right", keeping the machine going. He will refuse extra workers in his understaffed ER because they aren't good enough for him, refusing to acknowledge that the perfect candidates see the system and avoid it so they don't get destroyed by it like he has been. Eventually, it will collapse around him, he will take the blame, and no one will say "but he tried so hard."
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Anon, are you doing this on purpose? Maybe these two questions are connected.
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>tfw no autistic doctor gf
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Black people are like a bludgeon that Jews use to literally and figuratively beat White Americans over the head.
But they are geographically constrained, mostly down south or in specific black neighborhoods in the inner cities where yuppie white liberals never go.
This means for your average NPR whitoid their perception of black people comes almost entirely from fictional portrayals in popular media(and that one half black half Jewish guy that went to Oberlin with them). So they make blacks seem like these noble, wise, saint-like troves of great spiritual wisdom and compassion that way they feel as guilty as possible for their “oppression” at the hands of their fellow white devils
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>i am still your emergency contact and i don't want to be contacted
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IDK about the american jews but as an eastern european ashkenazi (I still live here), my people barely agree on what political party to support, we could never agree on some turbo complex propaganda metanarrative that doesn't have a face associated with it. Maybe the american ones are more organized or something but I find this implausible.
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Depends on his lifestyle and things like divorces, investments, etc.
lots of docs have a high income high expense life and only save through their 401k/403b. His condo probably isn’t worth millions if he even owns it outright.
I don’t remember if he ever actually married and divorced or just had some LTR’s but it’s very common for docs to get divorce raped.
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>the Pitt season 12
>just a regular day in the ED and suddenly… a plane crashes into the hospital… but not just their hospital, all hospitals ON EARTH… and the planes are full of zombies…with COVID!
>but wait look at the date… it’s Jan 6… this can’t be…
>Trump has used the necronomicon to fuse with the spirit of Hitler and enact his revenge on all the powerful women of color portrayed in the show by turning his followers into Nazi-Zombies with a COVID-19 Zeta variant that turns all who come into contact with them into chuds who leave bad reviews on shows featuring strong female leads and trans actresses
>Dr. Santos, who took Rabbi’s Job in season 6 whips out a chainsaw, looks right into the camera, and cracks a subtle smirk
>”looks like a serious case of the Woke-Right”
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Elevated to Season 3 main?
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The show made it so obvious so you're probably half-watching. The first hint is when the ICE guys are there she pulls one to the side and starts whispering to him. Then she calls Javadi a snowflake in ambulance bay. Then finally she looks super disgusted when Al-Hashimi and the new Armenian doctor start speaking Armenian to each other.
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Oh. Yeah you're both right. I just remember the water park girl.
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It's the nature of the drama. A patient that immediately displays all the necessary diagnostic criteria and is just waiting for medication will meet with the doctors for a few minutes, and spend most of their day with nurses doing chit-chat and necessary functions. Patients with freak diseases in crisis are going to be interacting with doctors. Most patients aren't entertaining enough for television.