Card is mid
>needs to be upgraded and played turn 1
>needs shivs to work
>doesnt protect against big swings
>auto loses to time keeper

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Or just get this

>>732172814
>Have one innate after image
>Dolly's mirror
>Get to the heart
>Duplication potion
>Play 100000000000000000000 shivs every turn
>Win
It's that easy

>>732172814
shit card

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Thoughts on this mod?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3657131160

>>732176138
I think you're a homosexual, but I hope you are at least honest enough with yourself to be out of the closet.

>>732176138
gay

Last I played from this morning I was in the middle of an Ironclad A16 run at the start of Act 3 streaming to a more experienced friend and having him give me pointers and guidance on how not to be a retard. It's tough to learn these things but I can feel I'm improving here and there

>>732172814
This has saved me against Heart and other bad fights enough runs that I always respect it. Any shiv run needs at least one. Popping Nightmare on it is huge value

Desecrated...

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underrated card

>>732172814
Any tips on deck building? What's the ideal deck size and do you basically go towards a certain deck based on the rewards given early on?

>>732181972
>tip
uncircumcised
>size
12 inch

>>732181972
don't focus too much on total deck size. If you see a card that makes your deck better it's generally going to be correct to add it. On lower ascensions you can get away without adding too many cards early on, but on high ascension you really do need to add a bunch early on to not die immediately.

>>732172814
when is sts2 coming out? i wanna play sts2 already

>>732173663
Sometimes it do be like that.

>>732183023
March, on a Thursday.

>>732182120
Wtf? I just beat A20

>>732183023
2 more weeks

>>732181972
You have to take it fight by fight and act by act. Something you take in act 1 to help you kill elites and the boss might not be worth keeping around in act 2 or 3. Likewise some cards are horrible unusable bricks in act 1, I'm talking curse tier dead draw trash, but if you see them in late act 2 or even in act 3 you fucking take them if your deck lets you. And some cards need certain other cards or even relics to be maximum benefit so much so that their regular use will not help you without whatever they want you to have in your deck beforehand.

So far, I think an easy way is to stop after every fight to check your map and the cards you're offered. Ask yourself what the next elite could be, what that next fight could be. Is that Havoc going to matter at all if it's unupgraded and you have no Feel No Pain or similar exhaust engine cards, nor ways to topdeck to abuse it like Headbutt or Warcry? Wild Strike and Reckless Charge put the statuses in your draw pile while Power Through puts them in your hand then they go to your discard, so can you afford the damage or block they give you with or without exhaust methods like Fiend Fire or Second Wind? Do you have Searing Blow early enough that you can pivot to going for as many rests as you can to upgrade it before the act boss, or find Armaments to upgrade as well? Do you have infomod telling you potion chances so you can decide to save what you have for later or use one in a dire moment to then expect a new potion to take its place? Is that Clash going to be usable more than half the time with the skills or curses like Ascender's Bane cucking you often in draws? Do you have damage to be able to kill Lagavulin in time? What can do you if that's Nob coming up? Sure you have Heavy Blade but you won't have an easy opportunity to use your Spot Weakness at Slime Boss. Do you have energy for this cool thing? Do you have enough health to survive snake plant or avocado+shroom?

>>732183160
man that's ages away

are there any deckbuilders to play in the meantime? I thought monster train was ok

>>732184872
One Step From Eden is by a /v/ anon
I hear good things about Chrono Ark too

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>>732184872
Vault of the Void just updated, now you can have a horse on the bottom left of your screen

I'm burnt out on it, I just don't enjoy the runs right now.

>>732185067
Post latest run? Maybe there's something you're not doing?

finally got around to trying monster train 2
it's okay

>>732185575
yeah I didn't end up putting the time into it that I put into monster train 1

DEFECT SUCKS BIG DICK!

I beat A17 with Silent. Even made it past act 1 boss. Then died to avocado IIRC. Now trying again. I'm scared of act 2.

When's 2?

>>732180192
Goblin fuckmeat

>>732192546
>>732183160

Monster Train 2 DLC just released, what do you guys make of it? I haven't bought it yet but I'm still figuring out the new free faction because I didn't play Last Divinity. They seem fun so far.

What cards are you meant to be taking on the Ironclad? I did pretty well with a block build.

>removed watcher in StS2 (already not a waifu)
>did not even replace her with a new waifu
Why

>>732195474
Isn't the new skeleton female?

>>732195474
There's a new cool robot, thats better than waifus

>>732173168
it's 4 defence per turn at a minimum, with the potential of being much, much more
all for 1 mana

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>>732173168
but what if you had 6

>>732193297
Depends. Post your run?

>>732197714
>none upgraded
Enjoy dying because they all clustered at the bottom of the deck, loser

>>732200348
Hey thanks for posting hot artwork of Silent and all, but where's the good Watcher art?

>>732198793
What kind of retarded has bad card draw with silent

>>732172814
nortubel tier card

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>>732200751
Be the change you want to see in the world anon. Anyways here's 1 of the 2 images I have with Watcher.

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>>732172814
>>732180796
Would Juggernaut synergize with After Image?

>>732204515
yes

>>732204541
I'm disappointed there's no
>Gain X block on damage
Imagine creating an infinite loop with Juggernaut.

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>>732203667
What would Anita say if she saw you guys posting smut in your shill threads?

>>732204646
There is, it's called rage.

>>732204780
Rage (and Talk to the Hand) is when you play an attack, not when dealing damage.

>>732204906
So you want an "instantly win this fight" card? There's kill all from console.

>>732204996
That'd be the case if it was on Ironclad. I just want one on another character on the rare chance I get Juggernaut at the same time, and cause an infinite kill loop.

>>732192990
ain't played it yet but from what i read the railclan seems op
did they change wurmkind's numbers at all?

>>732204906
you remind me of obnoxious tcg players who pretend to be skilled competitive players but always complain when cards are well designed and don't allow easy isntawin combos

>boss 1
>no energy relic
>act 2 will be tough but not impossible
>boss 3
>no energy relic
>I would have took literally any
>act 3 will no longer be possible
fun game for me to play!

>>732205274
You can work around not having good boss relic.
imo the most annoying thing are bad starts, like doing 5 fights and getting 0 attack cards.

>>732205234
What? What kind of brain damage is this? Where did I complained? I just said it would be funny if Juggernaut had something to cause an infinite loop.

>>732204515
obviously, but they're cards from different characters

>>732205274
Mummy hand in the next chest, trust.

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You just spent all your energy? Don't worry I've got you, friend. :)

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>>732205484
>that card that is free if you only have attack cards in your hand
>this fucker draws more cards

>>732205484
people that complain about ink bottle are shit

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>>732205576
Whoops

>>732205853
You're supposed to think about the cards you want to play the turn, check your ink bottle charges and check your draw pile to keep that into consideration. Not playing 4 cards without remembering you have the ink bottle and complaining when you draw your one off etherel card youd didn't want to draw.

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>>732206020
>don't play important cards because you run the risk of throwing another important card

>>732205424
The prism dream will never die

I'm in Act 3 on A18 for the first time with a discard deck that needs some removes. I'm scared.

>>732206075
Yes

>>732206078
who had money to buy items from merchants?
I usually only have enough for deck thinning

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I finally beat A20 and got my eternal one cheevo.
I am free... to play more StS.

>>732206423
You will never leave the spire, anon.
Until you get to the spire 2, electric bogaloo that is.

>>732205274
I have finished plenty of runs with no energy relic.
Though they are usually pyramid ones

I won my first boss swap into ectoplasm A20 run

>Take act 1 ectoplasm, satisfied that I have enough gold for at least one more relic or a card remove + card
>first act 2 fight is thieves

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What are we thinking about our king?

>>732211648
interesting mechanics, I like that he seems to be using a lot of buffed versions of the cool but bad concepts from Watcher that were never worth using over stance dancing

>>732211648
he looks like a faggot and his gimmicks are faggy

>>732205539
This is why Clash is BAD and you should NEVER take it

>>732211219
This literally happened to me the first run I boss swapped into Ectoplasm. It might be deliberately coded that way

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Shitter hardstuck on A8 ironclad here. Took a break to do an A3 silent run
>three upgraded wraith forms
>burning incense whatever it's called 1 intangible every 6 turns relic
>apparition event so 5 more intangible cards
>orichalum to never even have to worry about the chip damage
>couple of whatever poison cards + two upgraded catalysts
That was so fucking cool bros. Never been so immortal. Did not take a single point of damage for the entire third act.

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>>732212451
I love reading players on their way up enjoying the mechanics like this. So cute.
Apparitions are great but they are the greatest on silent. Just imagine having Burst+ and the spoon too.

>>732212451
>Shitter hardstuck on A8 ironclad
Post your most recent Ironchad run?
t. Shitter hardstuck on A16 ironclad

>>732212641
I know, we need more people posting here. It won't get to be as big as isaac threads, or Nuclear Throne threads back in 2014-2015, or Risk of Rain threads around the same time, but still. How am I so fucking old?

>>732212451
>>732212875
how do you get hardstuck on ironclad just fucking exhaust bro just delete your deck if it sucks hit the bricks

I just unlocked A19 on silent, and A15 on defect a bit earlier. Which one should I push to A20? = which is less frustrating at high ascensions. I like them both, defect feels a bit easier

>>732212451
I always found poison to be a boring build
i get big number unga bunga but it always felt like i just dont really play the game
not a bad build just a bland build

>>732184872
Monster Train 2 just had a new dlc come out and added the first games dlc faction as a free update

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>Ends your defect run

>>732184796
Other good advice I saw is take what you need to solve your short term problems over what you might run into later, since if the next elite kills you because you "planned ahead" then you won't reach later.

Also avoid picking up combo synergies that don't immediately help you of you don't have whey you need to make it work, otherwise it's functionally a curse card.

>>732214270
For me it's Laga, not Nob. On Silent as well

Anyone tried the mobile version? Might feel compelled to learn this game like a true autist if I can play it on the train/plane

>>732214270
This is why you take stuff like Go For The Eyes, Rebound, Streamline, Sunder, whatever damage and utility helps without being skills. Nob also doesn't trigger if you play powers so even a single Buffer can stop you from eating 18+ damage once

>>732214380
Yeah I've also had my friend make the curse card comparison to me

>>732214380
>Also avoid picking up combo synergies that don't immediately help you of you don't have whey you need to make it work, otherwise it's functionally a curse card.
Sometimes that makes for funny runs.
I posted in here on one of these threads where the OP was complaining about nightmare how I got a floor 0 A20 transform a strike into nightmare run and I still won
But yes, it's usually a terrible idea.

>>732214579
It plays like the game on pc but with touch controls, also ring of the serpent is bugged to give you +2 draw every turn.

>>732211219
It's like expecting to pick up philosopher's stone and your first opponents NOT being birds.
Come on, son

>>732214943
>tfw mintyspire qol mod gives byrds the awakened one glowing eyes if you have philosopher's stone
Epic

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>Hard stuck on a18 with the defect for weeks
>Decide to play StS on mobile on the toilet at work
>Figure I'll lose by the act 2 boss at the latest and get back to work
>Get mummified hand as 5th relic
>Get meal ticket which enables me to take coffee dripper and not immediately die
>Get echo form from the act 1 boss
>Stack up a ton of powers, and get apotheosis in a shop in act 2 (best card in the game imo)
>Make it to the act 3 boss, it's the fucking awakened one and I have a power build
>Go into the fight with only ~20 health
>Make it to phase 2, but I have 2 hp and he has a ton of strength
>Accept defeat
>I have a ton of frost from glaciers so I stall for a few turns
>Draw both of my biased cognitions
>use echo form on one, use the other
>I have 10 shock orbs doing 20 damage each
>Boss has <200 health
>Click end turn and win
>Wipe ass and get back to work, boss wonders where I was, I say I had Mexican food for dinner last night and he doesn't ask any more questions

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finally joined the cool kid club, now to do it all over again on defect
i really hope they won't fumble Silent in StS2, most fun character by miles

>>732214270
>already found cold snap and blizzard
Sorry nerd

>>732214579
It's a great portable game, but the touch controls are just a little janky, stuff like looking at the draw pile can be annoying if your phone has rounded edges and dragging cards towards enemies to target sometimes doesn't work as cleanly as on PC for some reason, if you go too fast it's easy to do the wrong thing when something doesn't behave like you expect.
Still one of the best ways to kill time at your desk, I made it to A20 on every class during downtime at work. And yeah Ring of the Serpent is overpowered on mobile.

>Playing defect
>Start run with a random rare card from Neow
>Meteor Strike

>>732214867
Is that the starter or upgrade relic? If the latter, that would actually make it a viable pick.

>>732215235
>Blizzard
>On Nob
This 1 energy deal 4 aoe attack will carry me in the damage check elite!

>>732215526
It's the boss relic.

>>732215392
If they just fixed how the cards spazz out when you select them I'd be so happy.

>>732212641
Shut up bitch, you're cute.
>>732212875
Lost my last run because I had the relic that gives you curses when you open chests. I had the can't play more than 3 cards curse, paid for it to be removed, then immediately evented into another chest that gave me that curse right back. Then I drew into it at a really critical moment on the next fight. Not very informative, I know.

I actually only started trying to climb ascension since last week. After reading all the advice anons give in these threads my win rate got way better. Instead of getting attached to a card and trying to meme build around it (I still do this sometimes desu) i
>prioritize damage cards that let me survive act 1
>try and balance offense and defense
>don't get greedy with elite fights
>only start putting together a build once I survive act 1
>don't get tricked into stacking demon forms, one is enough, but honestly strength stacking with flex and limit break and maybe an inflame is better
>exhaust is massive good. Simply unga bunga with fiend fire cheats your way through tons of fights. Don't need to play a long game if you just win on the first shuffle
also whirlwind is based

>>732212641
Fun fact: Strange Spoon sucks massive dicks with Exhaust builds

A17+ enemies and bosses constantly put weak and vuln on me, how do I survive this? Can't get pellets every run, and they only work consistently on Defect. I just died to Collector with all of those debuffs. Was I suppposed to kill her before she casts the debuffs?

I don't consider the Watcher to be a "real" character and never play her for some reason

>>732217825
You should have had 38 focus and the vuln or frail don't matter.

>>732215524
This is when you hope game gives you Recycle or Double Energy or Charge Barriers

>>732217619
If you play cursed key you really want to never open any chests besides your next one to nab the blue key and leave, cutebro. Unless you open the godlikest of relics that you couldn't possibly skip, that is.

>>732218591
Or unless you have Du-Vu Doll or Omamori

>>732211648
He behaves more like a queen, if you catch my drift.

>>732218636
Yeah, that too.
I love playing a 60 card pile with multiple curses and the doll, that's fun.

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What cards should I focus into getting?

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>>732184872
I wish girl fizz was better, she's so cute

>take sneaky strike as first or so reward
>floor 10
>still never drew it alongside survivor
the spire hates me

>>732214576
>Laga
Just pick up a frost orb. Not that hard

>>732219387
continuing the run
>floor 24
>no good defense cards were offered to me
normally I complain about getting only/mostly skills on early floors, this run game just refuses me any block

>>732184872
card-en-ciel is pretty neat

>>732218776
I have found extra respect for her frostbite path and sweep is still useful.
Conduit path being kinda trash in MT2 is a shame

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>>732184872
diceomancer is fun, I got a lot of mileage out of it
the big gimmick is that you have active relics and one of them is a usable die that you can replace any number onscreen with a roll of (ANY number, HP, money, enemy HP, card effects, relic affects in the reward screen). Some uses have drawbacks, but in general it lets you pull off a lot of silly shit

I can't believe I died to the pyramid because shivs wouldn't fit in my hand... 3 energy silent is tough

>>732222237
Pyramid can be strong but I hated it for the longest time because it absolutely needs at least one, preferably two of the following to not kill you
>energy, preferably averaging 5 a turn; using 3 default with no skills to increase it is a run bricker on par with busted crown
>discard
>exhaust
I remember having an extremely good run with silent using a discard deck that had 2 copies of concentrate with pyramid.

Time eater is a NIGGER

>>732222237
i like pyramid on silent because you can discard to make more hand space and calculated gamble is even better than normal because it can say draw 9

>>732193297
Demon Form + Juggernaut act 1 GG EZ

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>>732221531
Fun game until you figure how to get the big numbers

>when your really fun run gets ended by one bad hand
I was the Watcher, got a colorless card for free at the start: Hand of Greed. Using it every combat, sometimes multiple times, stacking loads of gold. Only to run into the three dudes elite in the second floor and get a brick hand of strikes. Fucking sucks.

>>732214579
its amazing I play it on the subway every day like a true workcel

>>732221531
there's something really slow and annoying about this game. The flavor of the various classes is terrible theyre just color pairings with no fantasy. also 20 ascensions is a terrible fit for it. i havent played in years so maybe that changed.

>>732226154
bro become a gorillionaire and didn't even thin his deck lmao

>>732226617
I was prioritizing moar encounters over shop visits

>>732226958
Well that turned out nicely

>>732227515
>hmm, that thing you did that led to you losing caused you to lose, hmmm?
Brilliant work, Holmes

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Just got this win thanks to my friend helping me out for most of the run but near the end I played things by ear without paying attention to his posts and it worked out fine

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>get this game because it was dirt cheap
>play a run with default knight and robot
>knight was ok, robot was boring af
>try the ninja
>get a deva form
>picrel

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>>732222764
Concentrate is normally a shit but if you're running Pyramid on Silent then Concentrate+ is extremely important to have

>>732222902
Pic rel is (You) right now KEK

>>732228006
>robot was boring af
Give him more tries, he's got more he can do that'll make you feel like your image
>ninja
Blind bipolar monk bitch

LIVE

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>>732172814
Holy fuck
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3598900044

LIVE
AGAIN

>>732205274
card draw boss relics are better than energy relics. you can already get tons of effective energy from normal relics and from standard deck building + upgrades, and the major limitation to most builds is card flow rate, especially if you dont draw your draw acceleration in the opening turns. The only real exception is defect who is busy doing the defect thing.

>>732221531
yeah I did play this. probably the best chinese game i've ever played. it's pretty unbalanced though

>>732206092
>>732212451
Question for you bros, when pushing ascensions, do you care about fighting the heart at all? I was under the impression you had to beat the heart to move up in ascension levels, but now im just doing up to Act 3, glossing over it.

How do I stop losing Silent games to slimbo? (max difficulty)

>>732235976
i usually try to upgrade neutralize in case you don't draw it on the turn you need it
always take acrobatics
also don't sleep on eviscerate

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CURSED HAND CURSED HAND CURSED HAND

Damn I almost nailed the heart with a claw deck.

>>732235976
Late reply, but I started skipping the heart. I thought you had to beat the heart to unlock later ascensions too. Once I realized you don't have to, I gave myself "you didn't beat the game" autism about it. Now I don't care. Maybe once I get to A20 I'll start going for heart again.

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>>732239124
Reset and figured out I needed to use Warcry+ to put Pommel Strike+ into this cursed draw so I can dig the deck further and at least use Shockwave+ on him. Too bad it didn't take. At least I reached A18...

>>732232749
>card draw boss relics
name them.

>>732172814
beat of death is 2 damage THOUGH

>>732240167
only on A19 and A20

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>>732184872
Starvaders is excellent.

>>732240608
i played a few runs of this and kind of lost interest. it wasn't bad, i just didn't feel like coming back for more

>>732240608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfJrSq86xHY

>>732205539
You should only ever take clash if you have nothing for the act 1 elites

>>732211648
I expect he'll have similar mechanics to slime boss from downfall, who is the most fun character in downfall, so hopefully I am right.

>>732212451
>Hardstuck on Ironclad
Fiend Fyre solves any problem

>>732180192
gremlin nob gets to fuck this every run?

>>732205274
>retarded goycattle think energy boss relics are needed

>>732215235
>Play blizzard
>Get 11 block for 2 energy
>Nob gets +3 strength
>You have less lightning orbs meaning you kill slower
You need damage against nob, without focus frost isn't going to do much

>>732222764
no it just needs removes stop giving shit advice
just start removing some strikes and draft cards that work with it

>>732241552
>blizzard
That's Glacier. And yeah you need damage against Nob or you're screwed. Same for Lagavulin

Defect does not have that bad of a matchup against nob
Using skills against him isn't illegal and if those skills deal a lot of damage it's worth it
Evoking lightning with dualcast deals 16 damage for 1 energy. You can play zap and dualcast turn 1
You can take ball lightning, bullseye, rebound, streamline, doom and gloom or just use potions to brute force him
I dont see how nob is worse for defect than lagavalin is for silent without early damage (literally, as in the proper sense of the term, impossible)

>>732241932
Turn 1 is free
If you can kill him on turn 3 playing skills to do so doesn't make you take more damage

>>732241932
I forgot to mention core surge and it blocking vuln
Sunder
Powers not increasing the nobs damage meaning buffer, defragment, echo form etc not having a downside in the fight
Hyperbeam is nice if you get it
Melter, ftl, even beam cell can help

For me it’s angry club guy, sentries, sentient egg, hexagon, slime, easy boss

>>732241720
In my defence I have never taken that piece of shit card blizzard in my life so of course I would mistake it for a useful card

>>732242054
Core Surge's artifact can also enable you to nullify Biased Cognition's focus down later on

>>732242054
>Core surge
11 damage for 1 energy is always going to be nice on act 1, however it is rare like hyperbeam.

>>732242236
I've tried running Blizzard before. It's way harder to make work than Thunder Strike because for lightning orbs you have Electrodynamics, you have Storm, you have Static Discharge, you have Tempest. You don't have as many easy ways to generate frost orbs outside Glacier, and the rest of the frost orb cards all generate only one. Cold Snap, Coolheaded, Chill, and Rainbow all generate only 1 and stay generating only 1 even after being upgraded. Static Discharge, Electrodynamics, and Storm all generate 1 more Lightning when upgraded which adds more to Thunder Strike than any of the frost orb cards ever do for Blizzard. If Mega Crit had added 1 more dedicated frost orb generating card for Defect then I can see Blizzard potentially being way more usable at all than what it is now

>>732173168
nightmare + wlp

You people need to watch Xecnar NOW

>>732242578
blizzard is so easy to make work what are you talking about
just replace your strikes with cold snap

>>732242578
I find Blizzard is better in more places than Thunder Strike, but neither are great in general
if you're spamming enough lightning that Thunder Strike is good and worth 3 energy everything is probably nearly dead anyway, and you want stuff to make you set up faster instead of stuff to win harder once you've got there. It does have niches, but Blizzard is a pretty solid damage solution for decks that have a lot of Frost and focus but need some kind of scaling to beat the lategame fights which is more common and provides something you really need rather than more of something you've already got.

>>732242848
he's absurdly good but takes way too fucking long to actually watch play
Baalor is the right mix of good, explain-y and reasonably fast for me

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>>732243242
god damn is that really the default game speed? Its been so long since I played like that.
Its like slow motion.

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>>732172814
>nice everything retard
tungsten rod + gate + incense
heart dealt 0 damage
felt like armstrong getting punched by raiden

>>732235542
If you are chasing ascensions ignore the heart. After you are "enjoying" 15/20, start over again, probably doing +2 increments, and chasing the heart.
The game is truly, genuinely and absolutely not balanced for ASC 15+ Heart Runs so don't hold that shit against you.
It's genuinely unfair and it absolutely forces you to be thinking about 2+ damage per card from like Act 2 onward which is very limiting.

>>732242236
In your defence in terms of "story" Glacier should be called Blizzard and Blizzard should be called Glacier.
One is slow as shit but an inevitable death and defeat after eons of slowly gaining advantage.
The other is a sudden burst of power and force.

>>732246069
>ignore the heart
gay

>>732230639
So this is where he got the defect skin from

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>>732242848
How? He hasn't done a run in almost 2 weeks.

Anyone got A20 tips for the Silent? She's probably my least consistent character where the other 3 I can usually go into a heart killing build, with her she really flounders most of the time and I either lack any damage to kill the heart in a reasonable time, or lack any considerable defensive options despite having builds that roll literally the rest of the game no real issue.

>>732242848
That guy is way too hard to understand with his mumbling and mysterious nose noises.

>>732184872
Library of Ruina

>>732184872
Card en ciel is great
Dicey dungeons too, even though some challenges are way too bullshit compared to others so the progression is wack.

>>732247630
Nobody should play this without Lobotomy Corp first. That's the truth

>>732181972
a 19-card deck you can't draw through quickly enough will get you killed (even if slowly through attrition)
meanwhile a 50-card deck you can draw through in a few turns is probably good
it's less about the size and more about how well you can get your cards in play

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>>732192990
It's really cool to have Wurmkin back. And Railforged are awesome and their Forged / Equipment / Train focus is fun.
More than that though. The new game mode is kind of awesome and I'm impressed.

I already thought that MT2 was a pretty strong improvement over MT1. But though differences have been made to MT2's campaigns, with shrines being left at MT1 and with the introduction of rooms and arms and other changes. MT2's campaign is still largely similar to MT1's in structure and purpose. Which is good honestly.
But I am very impressed with this new mode. I like how distinct and different it feels while the core gameplay remains the same.
The introduction of the soul modifiers is cool. The way you get to choose a boss's path, with while getting a preview on some of the upgrades along the way, only to have a boss-specific curse inflicted upon you for the remainder of the run after you defeat the boss. Is interesting. Makes the paths and what order you decide on, interesting or at least engaging. And defeating a boss also upgrades one upgrade in all remaining paths. Maybe you want to go down a path that a forge to upgrade your champion early? Or you can ignore the forge entirely, fight without that upgrade, and then return later when the forge is upgraded for an even stronger champion. Your deck might be unit or spell focused, and you can go for one early upgrade or ignore it for upgraded, upgrades. It's neat. Especially when you factor in what curses to avoid.
And beyond the introductory easy mode, it's fun to draft souls after defeating the bosses, potentially drastically changing your strategies or what to aim for.


Really makes me hope that ST2 has both one mode that resembles ST1 and something actually different.

>>732246069
>The game is truly, genuinely and absolutely not balanced for ASC 15+ Heart Runs so don't hold that shit against you.
Is this why there have been so many disagreements whenever I've argued that high ascension runs pretty much forces you to play but a small handful of narrow decks to win?
If you're ignoring the heart then obviously you can win with way more leniency and sillier decks.

>>732172814
These card sprites look straight out of genfanad.

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When can we expect Deception Engine?

Currently playing the Downfall mod.
How tf do you win with Hexaghost?
The furthest I've made it is the boss of the last zone.
Soulfire spam+the bomb card+preemptive trigger got me to that point.
I can almost see a broken build hidden in here, but every time I reach for it everything falls apart.

Tell me about Ironclad, why does he wear the mask?

Finally made it back. I really need to sleep after this

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>>732257402
forgot my image but that's okay I made it the best I could do

no defect no buy

>>732257670
Maybe in a later update they'll bring him back? "We can rebuild him. We have the technology." and all that

>>732257701
one can only hope

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>>732243242
>oh no, it's the consequences of my actions!

>>732249678
How does she pee?

>>732259920
We all know girls don't pee!

>>732260552
I have video evidence to the contrary.

>get some powers on silent
>get mummified hand
>generate a lot of block and deal some poison damage with my single catalyst
>don't check act 3 boss
>it's the awakened one
>can't play my powers and cannot generate enough poison with my single catalyst

>get Panache from whale
>build a funny Silent deck cycling through the deck a lot
>forgot to look at act 3 boss
>it's time eater
>I don't deal enough damage per card by far and also don't generate enough block

>>732172814
stop shilling the game in this shithole and just give us the release date already

>>732265927
>he doesn't know

My rotating streak PB is something like 2 because I see some neow option or relic or card and think "this is gonna be so fun if it works" and then it doesn't work.

>>732241661
I don't give a fuck how well you can time your cards with pyramid, 3 energy a turn is absolute dogshit to work with.

>>732228006
you're right, the robot sucks
I only play him because it's the only character I'm not burned out on.

I wish the upgrade was 2 blocks per card and not it being innate.
Or if it was affected by dexterity,

>>732270567
Then wraith form would make it useless.

>>732173168
Cardspam silent is the strongest and this makes it more consistent
Can slot into basically any deck and youll do well

>>732272990
Wraith form is already useless
>durr fuck your block up for an entire fight for the tradeoff of two turns where you don't take any damage and then eat a 50 damage attack the next turn :))))
This is bait in case it isn't obvious.

>>732205274
Would rather have card quality compared to energy
Emptycage or astrolabe preferably

How am I supposed to survive 5 turns of vulnerable and frail vs Collector? Silent, assuming no wraith form.

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>>732211648

>>732211648
Taking the "create a card" theme that was wasted on the watcher and making an entire new character for it seems like a good idea (also I can already tell he's going to have some dumb ass infinite setups like Ironclad does)

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I wish I wasn't so bad at this game.
I need someone to bitch-slap me every time I make an obvious mistake.

>>732275370
Seems like a pretty boring lineup of cards. I don't know what forge does though.

>>732270567
>Or if it was affected by dexterity,
That would defeat the purpose of After Image
Alternative sources of block that aren't affected by status conditions like dexterity are VERY important, it allows you to generate block without being affected by things like frail or dex down. It's why tough bandages and oriental fan are so strong

>>732275829
>36 cards
lol
just stop impulse clicking dumb shit, take helloworld and creative AI if you really want to just spin the wheel on random cards every turn without having to bloat your list into 'jesus take the wheel'-tier consistency

>>732275829
First things first stop picking Creative AI it's bad

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>>732276504
>it's bad
it's fun

>>732275882
forge increases the damage on the blade

>>732276504
It's not always bad, depends on your deck.
Getting scaling on the retarded robot is harder than with other characters.

>>732211648
Should have been a girl.
Not even fanservice porn shit just that being a smug noble relying on servants is an intrinsically womanly role.

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So StS2 is getting Gilgamesh and the Necromancer.
And the Defect was demoted to an NPC and with some of its cards being made clan-less?

Do we know if they're doing any major changes to Ironclad and Silent? Or will they play more or less like they did in StS1?
What would you even prefer?

>>732280491
Ironclad and Silent are getting some new cards, some of their old cards redesigned, and some of their old cards untouched. What's actually happened to the Defect is unknown at current. It seems like Watcher is not in the game though

>>732280491
i'm 99% sure defect is going to be in sts2

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>>732272328
I like this guy's comics

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>>732282946
>play Blasphemy
>God gets mad and smites you with 9999 damage
>lol I'm a ghost
God sucks

>>732283020
Surely that doesn't actually work

>>732283328
Blasphemy actually just does damage to you, no kill switch or something like that coded.
I believe it's 99999 damage.

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>>732283549
yeah that's correct

>>732283620
>>732283328
fun fact, in the first releases of the Watcher it did damage equal to your max health and ignored block, so you could survive it just by having Tungsten Rod

>>732280491
>any major changes to Ironclad and Silent? Or will they play more or less like they did in StS1?
>Silent
don't look at what they're doing to shivs if you value your happiness

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>>732283020
>>732283328
>>732283549
>>732283620
That's fun.

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>>732284125
the fuck are you talking about? the only negative change is blade dance exhausting but we got a literally infinitely better card

>>732284418
That's just slightly less awful storm of steel. And that's the upgraded version to boot.

>>732284418
>blade dance exhausting
>negative change
Not for Ironclad with Prismatic Shard

>>732284586
>0 cost
>don't need other cards in hand for it to generate shivs
>"slightly less awful"

>>732284586
Storm of Steel is bad because you lose your entire hand in exchange for 4 damage per card, that's just a terrible trade especially on the Well Laid Plans character
Discard 2 is way, way better

>>732284891
>don't need other cards
>>>discard 2
3 for 3
it's bad

>>732285481
If it's the last card in your hand you still get shivs

>>732285481
are you being retarded on purpose? do you even play silent? you don't need to actually discard cards for the effects of cards like that to happen, if you only have a concentrate in your hand and play it you still gain the energy

>>732285707
>are you being retarded on purpose?
yeah
i'm just mad about >blade dance exhausting
pissed off, even

>>732285481
You have precise control over what you discard so you can discard the cards that want to be discarded or just what you don't need. You can also completely ignore the effect if you just play it with your hand empty. It's an insanely good card.

>>732285481
You don't understand the Silent at all

>>732286312
Thin deck meta faggots absolutely blown out. There is no downside for blade dance exhausting if you have 12 copies.

>>732172814
>doing well
>suddenly though encounter
>draw all attack cards when I must defend
>draw all defensive cards when I can attack or buff
>all my useful powers and draw X are at the bottom of the deck
Now what?

>Hidden daggers
>discard reflex x2
>go +4 for 0 energy and get 3 shivs
>Draw in to eviscerate
etc
It is in many ways a higher tempo version of Well Prepared that will also bridge discard and shiv synergies

>>732286917
The reason why blade dance exhausting is important is because in the early game, Silent is desperate for efficient damage sources. Blade dance is worth 12 damage, Blade dance+ 16. Being able to cycle through your deck for blade dances was a very consistent way of punching through the act 1 damage checks, while also investing in to a card that plays in to a decent scaling engine
A blade dance that exhausts means that it's only a temporary source of damage and makes it significantly worse in to the act 1 elite fights Silent struggled with. Though, we don't know what STS 2 elites look like

>>732275370
do all colorless cards have that moon energy icon now?

>>732286982
>Now what?
cheat engine
enemy hp = 0
bullshit begets bullshit, zero regrets
>but le game is deterministic :DDD
determine my ass you motherfucker, what am i going to do when the game decides to put the same relevant cards at the bottom of my deck three fucking shuffles in a row

I can't get an A20 defect win to save my life.
Fuck this character, seriously.

>>732184872
Wildfrost was good

>>732287685
I wish that game had any challenge at all. It is so boring to win all the time.

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>>732184872
CHRONO ARK
Is S+ tier. Amazing game. I super love the way you build your deck by amassing an adventurer party, with different characters having different card pools that are then combined to form your deck. And with the characters having their own HP bars, and the way you lose access to all of their cards whenever they fall. It's really cool stuff.

>Developing my own roguelike deckbuilder
>Plan on releasing it shortly after Steam Next Fest which is in the beginning of March
>StS2 comes out in the beginning of March
MegaCrit why must you torture me so...

>>732290197
Can't wait for the next Next Fest?

>>732290334
The game is pretty much done, also a much bigger dev is making literally the same game so I need to get mine out before his. I'm just gonna delay until the end of March/beginning of April.