>>732206907
I was shocked when I saw that Avowed and The Outer Worlds 2 were releasing the same year.
>Result of things going wrong
Shocker

god fucking riddance

S

>>732207000
SPBP

>>732206907
>skyrim meets destiny
Honestly not a terrible pitch.

>>732206907
I got so many "avowed didn't flop" responses when I first said it did.
>"THEY'RE MAKING A SEQUEL IT WAS OBVIOUSLY A SUCCESS!!!!"
no microsoft is just retarded

I have yet to see any discussion at all about Outer Worlds 2, it had that price drama for a bit and then completely disappeared off the face of the earth.

>>732206907
good god what have they done to Willow?

>>732206907
scutter them and free the employees to go elsewhere. avowed's art director should be blacklisted from the industry and the chuds will make sure he never lives his racist remarks down.

reminder the second level in avowed is fully brown and girlboss

outer wilds 2 takes it up a notch

>failed to meet sails expectations
lmao

>>732207130
They took it off Disney+

>>732206907
kill yourself shill

>>732206907
>enacted a 30% profit target for many xbox studios
>which has led to them putting games on playstation
so they were not even making a 30% profit?

>>732206907
Can Obsidian just go bankrupt already?

>>732206907
>Since it was acquired in 2018, Obsidian has been prolific, releasing a half-dozen titles, including last year’s trio: the trippy fantasy role-playing game Avowed, the survival game Grounded 2 and the dystopian sci-fi RPG The Outer Worlds 2. (Some other studios within Microsoft haven’t released a single game in that period.) While Grounded 2 was a big hit, the disappointing results from the other two have led Obsidian to “think a lot about how much we put into the games, how much we spend on them, how long they take,” Urquhart says. Both Avowed and The Outer Worlds 2 were in development for more than six years, inflating their production costs and the company’s financial expectations. One of Urquhart’s missions is to cut down development timelines to three or four years per title.
https://archive.is/UTLt9

>>732206907
Not a question of how but of why the hell would you

>>732206907
They're fucked. MS bought them to make Bethesda-likes and now that they own Bethesda outright, Obsidian is getting canned. Like you bought a Porsche Boxster when that was the best you could afford but now you just bought a 911 or Taycan and well, you don't really need two cars car analogy

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>>732206907
>How do you save Obsidian, /v/?
You don't. Just shut it down and fire everyone.

>>732206907
>no waifus
Purely self inflicted damaged, reject sawyer-cuk writers, receive sales

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>Game studio: dies
>/v/ who hasn't bought a single game from them ever:
doesn't make sense, forced af

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>>732207278
You can't shut them down, they have a 100 year plan of intentionally making mediocre games that nobody cares about

>>732206907
Such cope. The reason it flopped isnt because you released two games in the same year, it flopped because you released 2 bad games in the same year

I can pirate outer worlds 1 on the switch. Is it worth playing for free? Is it shit? Is the switch version unplayable?

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>avowed reveal trailer looked very interesting
>underground dungeon with sword and magic
>skyrim 2 confirmed, we're so fucking back
>game finally releases
>it's lame and gay

>outer worlds 1 was okay, nothing special
>all female characters looked like dykes
>no one asked for a sequel
>sequel has mystery meat companions

who would of thunk it would bomb

>In development for 6+ years
That's fucking insane.
But yea, total western game dev death.

>>732207479
Just pretend you already played it, with how forgettable it is, it's the same

>>732206907
Maybe make interesting companions? Don't make a trailer that looks awesome and then do a 180?

>>732206907
Obsidian's games don't need to sell well, they exist to promote Game Pass

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>>732207412
To an extent, gaming is a zero-sum industry.

The more games that I don't like that flop, the more money is put towards games I do like. If companies and projects that don't appeal to be become seen as unprofitable, then that means more money is going to be put towards things that do appeal to me.

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>was right about Feargus being an inept boss and is still right to this day
Apologize.

280 fucking employees? Why are people still pretending they're a little indie dev then?

>>732207412
>Game devs, we want X
>How about Y?
>I don't want Y, make X
>Lets go with Y shall we?
>"WTF why are anons happy that a company that is spiteful towards them is going under!?"

>>732206907
They spent whatever goodwill they had left on Outer Worlds 1. No one cares about the Outer Worlds or POE settings.
There is nothing left of the Obsidian that once existed, even from a purely mercenary perspective the value has been completely extracted at this point, just let it die for fuck's sake.

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>>732207754
I don't think everything has to appeal to me considering how many games get released these days, but holy shit you should be making your game for the actual people who play videogames and not the people you wish were playing videogames because otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time

Someone on the dev team should have been allowed to say TOW2's companions were hot garbage but I guarantee you if any of them could have seen past their own nose to realize it, they were terrified of saying it

>>732207787
The company exists since 2003, even if they're shut down you can't call them a failure

I'll buy the game when it's €5, got other stuff to play in the meantime

>>732207109
Avowed literally nailed the hardest part of the game and somehow fucked up the easiest shit. If Avowed 2 has better writing, companion, some romance, and they make the individual explorable areas larger, it will be a great game.
Avowed was ALMOST great. Combat and exploration are fun but the writing is so bad and bland and it feels like there is 0 world interactivity. They can keep the combat/exploration and just actually get some good writers on staff and it can be a really good series.

>>732207412
Obsidian used to be good but now they just make shitty games
I want nu-Obsidian to die so they stop desecrating the name of the actual Obsidian

>>732208030
This.
Pretty much every game dev that's more than 10-15 years old has basically been entirely ship of theseus'd.
The people who made the actually good games have long since gone, the only ones left are the retards and their underlings.

>>732207115
Outer Worlds 2 is actually way better than OW1 and pretty much what OW1 should have been.
OW1 was bad to me because aside from the small levels, there was a severe lack of choice. Even build choice did not matter as if you put 2 points into everything (which was cheap and easy) then you had enough base stats that drugs + gear would let you pass even master level checks. You could do anything in the game.

OW2 actually gets rid of that. You can specialize in a few things. There are more dialogue options using skills and skill checks are more frequent. More quests have choices. Explorable worlds are larger. Combat is better. Companions still suck though. Obsidian hasn't made fun companions since New Vegas (and even then only like 3 of them are any good: Boone, Raul, and Arcade).

Any must-have mods for my first ever playthrough of FO:NV or is it fine vanilla?

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>>732208030
>so they stop desecrating the name of the actual Obsidian
such a fucking nerdy thing to say Jesus Christ. Also, if they die tomorrow, won't the "actual Obsidian" still be "desecrated" since they released a bunch of shitty game under that name? the fuck is this logic

PoE is kino, so more of that yeah

>>732208189
>such a fucking nerdy thing to say Jesus Christ
You're on the 4chan video game board, we're all nerds.

>>732208189
A company releasing 10 shitty games and dying desecrates the name less than a company releasing 12 shitty games and dying, yes.
Notice he said "stop."

>>732208189
It is what you reap when you sowing trooner 'fans'

>>732206907
I'd throw gasoline at them.

>>732206907
why do they even still exist they haven't done a single good game since 2010

>>732208030
This is the way.

>>732207479
I pirated it and felt like I was ripped off.
Wasted like 30 hours of my life trudging through the most mediocre videogame I've ever come across, I spent the entire time wondering if it was about to get good or if some tiny hint of Obsidian quality was going to show up, but it never did. You'd be better off playing a game that is genuinely bad, at least that can be interesting in some way, even negative experiences are better than unending tedium.

Literally every Obsidian flop could have been saved by physically attractive character designs

>>732208252
still cringed
>>732208281
ehh idk about that, people usually remember the failures

>>732207481
Team LGBT

>>732207196
Almost no one makes 30% profit. It is a hilarious target.

>>732206907
No need. This type of propaganda company survives regardless of financial results. And even if it eventually "dies," all its employees simply move to other companies to continue promoting the agenda. They are fine.

>want to make more in the Pillars universe
Josh, you fucking retard, get it through your thick skull. No one likes these games. They ALWAYS flop. Stop. Drop your shitty pet fantasy universe before you kill your damn company over it. You aren't WotC or Paizo and never will be.

>>732208379
The egoistical western video game devs would rather lose their livelihood

>>732208619
Are there even any successful cRPGs with their own settings besides DOS2?

>>732208619
this, what a fucking joke of a franchise god damn

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>>732207412
I bought new vegas

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>>732208379
>physically attractive character designs
and make racist gamers happy?
not on your life buddy

>>732208597
>when your spiders attack hiss is literally "TIMMEH!"
Very subtle, dangerhairs

>>732208706
Dragon Age

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I'll never know if those games are good because I don't play games without cute girls. Like if player's AI ship uses this avatar I'm not even pirating your game.

>>732208745
Todd got your money, not them.

>>732208775
True, not anymore though

>>732206907
Funny how Groudned was the major success despite actually just being a pet project from a few of the devs at Obsidian. Meanwhile their major studio focuses ended up flopping. The Outer Worlds getting a sequel didn't even make sense lol.

>>732206907
>Bethesda at Home
Why would I want to save them?

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>>732208809
Yes that's how publishing works
They also don't get your money if you buy OW2

>>732206907
>How do you save Obsidian, /v/?
They clearly know how to make games, they just need to stop their SJW garbage. Replace all the retarded millennial writers who keep trying to be "woke". Simple as.

>>732207161
>outer wilds 2
I feel sorry for the people who bought outer wilds thinking it's the heavily praised Outer Wilds

>>732207481
aren't those 2 Concord characters in the picture

>>732208474
It's all Satiya's plan to pivot everything into cloud services and AI. Everything else that doesn't make an insane profit (you know, besides the money pit that is AI) isn't worth keeping around.

>>732208776
I still find it hilarious how they did this, they're so averse to beauty that they even made the ship computer AI waifu character look like an ugly millennial dyke.

>>732208775
I love DAO but it's just a bog standard DnD setting. It's a masterpiece and they nailed it perfectly but the setting is really no different than dozens of other games.

>>732207412
I pirated Outer Worlds. They owe me those hours of my life back.

>>732206907
I could only really get through the opening 4/5 hours of Outer Worlds 1. It's Bethesda like except done on 1/5th of the budget or something. There is just nothing cool in it and the maps feel so constrained.

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>>732206907
I hope it's true, and they at least need to scale down back to one project, I've never played games with so little soul before, no NPC is remarkable (Why does a woman have pink hair in a medieval setting? At least explain your oddities).

Maybe if they focus just on one game they can make a good game instead of this sea of mid, game pass slop they are on currently.

>>732208939
They had to make her match the artstyle of every other woman in the entire game which is why even though it's a drawing it looks like a semi-bloated a-gendered thing with a douchebag male haircut

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>>732207412
>STOP LAUGHING AT US
nah

>>732208250
PoE sucked too. It got deep-dicked by Divinity OS for a reason. Literally some of the most boring writing of any fantasy RPG i've ever played. and the shitty soundtrack, especially for 2, didn't really help

>>732207000
Trips of TRUTH

>>732206907
I'm glad Avowed didn't go the way of Anthem and we got to see the Living Lands from Pillars. Exploration, graphics, movement and combat was 10/10, everything else was aggressively okay. Will give it props for the evil route, if you say "yes" to join the evil boss at the end she beheads you during your knighting if you haven't been evil enough. Want to play it again when the patch drops as a cute aumaua.

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>>732207000
S

>>732207412
Bait, but I'll take it. Obsidian used to be /v/core, NV was on pretty much every 3x3 or whatever gay top # video game charts a few years ago.

>>732208895
do they though? they knew how to write once i'll give them that but all their best games were borderline unplayable despite being sequels already built on another studios coding

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>>732206907
>[SAD NEWS]

>>732208189
>such a fucking nerdy thing to say
where do you you are?

>owlcat and larian games are "woke" and "sjw"
>sell like hotcakes
>obsidian games are "woke" and "sjw"
>flop
I think the problem is that people just don't like Obsidian

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>>732207000
yeah
S

>>732208776
jesus christ how horrifying

>>732209403
Most modern western game fans are not nerds, they're just normalfags passing through on their way to the next social media fad.

>>732209408
Owlcat and Larian games are moderately woke but they still have attractive women to pander to incels. Obsidian got way too woke and removed all the sexy ladies, and this is the result.

>>732209408
Which ones have waifus again?

>>732207481
somehow, in outer worlds 2, they made the companions even worse, i'm not joking

>>732209408
Obsidian games are ugly, aesthetic wise.
Not pleasant to look at, beyond common complaints of ugly gals.

Doesn't Outer Worlds 2 have romance? I thought Sawyer hated that shit?

>>732209584
He's busy making Pillars Tactics. I hope.

>>732209642
no romance, they even bragged about it

>>732209642
Sawyer have not directed a game since Pentiment, he had no hand in Avowed or Outer Worlds 1 and 2.

>>732209691
Huh guess I confused it with some other woke flop. Thanks for clearing it up

>>732206907
>MS buys obsidian so they can have their own ver elder scrolls
>they end up buying bethesda anyways
>Obsidian now under MS thumb has to include their shitty woke DEI polices
>Games fail
Get what ya fucking deserve selling your souls to MS.

>>732206907
>OUTER WORLDS 2
To be honest I didn't even know there was an Outer Worlds 2 I have never even seen anybody talk about it, not even shitposting or complaining on /v/. I did not enjoy the first one so I can't say I'm very surprised.

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>>732206907
>How do you save Obsidian, /v/?
Make games for white people.

>>732209776
but he is a crusty white dude

>>732209781
almost all the leftist woke devs are white tho

>>732209776
well, he's doing that i guess

>>732206907
first I fire everyone with
>dyed hair
>facial piercings, especially nose rings
and every writer no matter what.
then I hire a new lead programmer, while also giving a raise to the existing programmers so they don't feel punished. the next game needs to be optimized, no more stutter slop. they can immediately start working on the technical foundation for a proper open world RPG that's basically "what if a TES came out with fewer bugs and all the essential quality of life mods already installed". that's the value proposition. that's the target. we are willing to sacrifice dungeon count, quest count and other quantity metrics. we are not willing to sacrifice world simulation, so NPCs in a town CAN be attacked, you can break into houses etc. and NPCs have actual daily routines. the new lead programmer gets to decide if and where we have load screens, and how many NPCs we can support simultaneously.

once the foundation exists (hopefully after less than one year) we can start hiring back some artfaggots but we keep the team as small as possible and we prevent nepotism hires à la "I worked with this guy on this other project and he is really good" types weaseling their way into the company.

the game's story is the sum of the quest choices the player makes. there isn't a real main quest although there may be some overarching goal that will be accomplished in the late game.

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>>732207754
/v/ used to laugh at this panel, but slowly and steady it became reality.
You celebrate the games you like not because of their quality, but because of how successful they are, and you celebrate other games's failures as if state of the developer directly impacts you.

Jews won. You became a fanatic obsessed with their products, and act like the brands are religions.

Who's the new Obsidian making actual good underrated games?

>>732206907
Good, fuck this Fabian Society slop
>>732207000
SPBP
/thread

>>732209717
>implying that ego can stand writers with other opinions
Only the same sort of cucks will get to work there

>>732209691
>see people go feral over romance
>umm akschually, we're not doing that
>flop
I mean, there's multiple reasons for flopping but they sure made it easy for people to skip their shit

>>732208974
I received the Outer Worlds for free when I bought a Ryzen cpu. I want the minutes I spent redeeming the code back.

>>732209826
He said FOR white people, not BY self-hating white people

>>732209804
((Hansen))

>>732209826
LMAO
grounded2 team at least is mystery meat - the game

>>732209776
He's in luck, he'll be doing exactly that when Microsoft guts him and his entire dev team and shutters their studio.

>>732209929
Ah.

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>>732209847
>WE ARE NOT SO DIFFERENT YOU AND I
and whoa said tranoids have no sense of humor, LMAO

>>732207412
I bought Obsidian games in the past, now they're trying to sell these current titles off the reputations of people who don't even work there anymore

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>>732209804
>>732209830
LOL removed

>>732206907
STOP FUCKING PUTTING UGLY BROWNOIDS IN MY FACE AND GIVE ME A GOOD STORY AND RPG MECHANICS YOU FUCKING RETARDS

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>>732206907
>Both games were in development for 6+ years and they thought it would be a success?

lmao these niggers never learn.

>>732209471
>moderately woke
BG3 has a pair of lesbians as a major plot point and a trans character who was Shadowheart's longtime friend plus Balduran had gay sex with his dragon

So why did people want these retards to make a Fallout game if their own games suck?

>>732209776
The real question is why does a commie faggot look so much like tsar nicholas?

>>732207235
It's easy for them to fix it, but they don't want our money.

>>732210002
Eternal Curse of the RPG company. Proven track record making games for IPs they can't bend and therefore fuck up.

>>732210001
BG3 did a bait and switch where there basically wasn't any woke shit in EA and then they dumped all of the woke shit on you in the final release, especially act 3.

>>732210001
And they are STILL more straight and attractive than anything done by obsidian since MotB, go figure

>>732210021
He took the thesis and antithesis part very seriously

>>732210132
I don't remember woke shit in BG3 but then again I always drop it at the start of Act 3 + I always kill the faggot vampire and the faggot wizard

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>>732209804
>>732209776
how do these kind of people end up working in an industry they hate?

Modern Obsydian to be some kind of epsteinian money laundering scheme. Nobody could genuinely believe that The Outer Worlds was worthy of a sequel. They didn't even bother marketing it possibly out of sheer embarassement.

>want to give outer worlds a shot
>I'll watch someone stream it a bit before I pay
>CAPITALISM IS HAHA SOOO BAD BRO
>controls and areas look jank
>gunplay looks boring
>OW 2 literally the same thing
>flops
Yeah wow shocker

>>732210197
Not good enough to be a real writer. And you can bet your ass they're eternally mad that they have to write for video games

>>732207412
>Leftist discourse is about pretending not to understand things
I WOULD have bought games from them. BUT they put brown people, gay women, ugly women, shitty writing, and slop looking gameplay in my face, and I chose not to.

What is hard about this you tremendous faggot? I chose to not buy their goyslop.

>>732209847
>because of how successful they are
Projecting hard.

>>732210001
>BG3 has a pair of lesbians as a major plot point
I just started act 3 and I have yet to see them

>>732210197
Because gamedevs are the retards of tech people in general, if you were good at it you could get easily far better paying and stable jobs in other industries who need your skillset
Most of those won't require you to waste your workday arguing what is 'problematic' with leftoid fine arts majors either

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>>732210197
As someone who works closely with marketing it's easier than you think
>bunch of companies want us to come in and update their sites for "progressive" idealogies
>website gets a bunch of stupid shit like this, LBGTQIA+, and other bullshit everyone gags over
>website gets a tool that shows metrics of viewers go up
>they show investors how much more engagement they are getting now
>people get FOMO and then give money

What in reality happened was we modernized their website from something practically unusable that was last updated in maybe 2014 at best, modernized it to work properly on mobile devices and modern browsers, sprinkled adsense in there with keywords to bump it in searches, and it actually changed shit around meaning people who used the site can't navigate it now and give it more clicks. It takes a few years for companies to realize the fact more clicks does not equal more engagement just that people might be lost on the site or look at the new change and forget about it in the 30 second zoomie brains they have.

I shit you not this happens so much

>>732207000
Spbp. These faggots suck ass at making games, they just make pozzfests.

>>732210519
I didn't play the DLC because I didn't wanna do another 384 ball rolling puzzles

>>732210194
>he kills Astarion
Astarion is one of the most fun companions in crpg history
He's a delight on an evil run

>>732210298
I saw that happen live, was quite interested in the early access version but did not buy it, waited for the release and it was turbo cancer. Never bought.
However there is a lot of stuff in BG3 that idiots can enjoy and delude themselves with, I do not like Shadowheart or Astarion but you certainly do not see characters like that becoming popular from the crap Obsidian has made

>>732210618
cool story homo

They have been riding the New Vegas train.

The thing is the writing is what made New Vegas great.

>>732210737
KotOR 2 train you mean

>>732207481
>was okay
bro it was dogshit, worse than anything bethesda shits out.

>>732210458
NTA as someone who also works closely with marketing, they really cannot understand markets from a quantitative angle. So, there's straight people, gay people, trans people, and some undefined queer people. That's 4 groups, and 100% divided by 4 is 25%, so 25% of all people shown should be gay, or trans, or whatever. You can say, "but wait! some of these groups only account for less than 1% of the population! are you really sure our market has 25X more gays than the regular population?" but that point is completely lost on many marketing professionals. They cannot into numbers beyond some basic bitch CAGR number that always jsut means, "we should invest in this". It's simply amazing if 0.0005% of the population came out as transpecies lizard people, marketing departments would insist on having 20% of everyone featured be a lizard.

>>732207979
>. Combat and exploration are fun but the writing is so bad and bland and it feels like there is 0 world interactivity.
kek I've heard the exact opposite, about how the combat is generic and the exploration is lackluster due to the world not being that big but the "obsidian-tier writing" is what carries it.

>>732210618
>one note shitter performance who gets showered with awards because of the 'I can fix him' crowd, despite the performance and character being mediocre as hell
no, thank you

>>732208706
Disco Elysium
Solasta
Fallout but that was decades ago

>>732208607
lol

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>>732206907
The new hacks at Obsidian misunderstood Fallout so badly they thought they could recreate it. They took the elements of parody in Fallout and thought that was the whole setting.

>>732210980
>Solasta
>successful
It was?

>>732210980
Is Solasta really that good?

>>732209408
Even woke people don't want to buy games with unattractive characters

>>732210421
the aasimar and JK Simmons's zombie daughter

Have they tried just going full chudcore?
Everyone is trying the full woke thing and falling miserably, maybe do the opposite.

>>732210838
>2020 elections and covid
>everyone wants the gayslop on
>just now people realizing sales didn't increase worth a damn
>lay off staff because they saw clicks and views go up without any engagement increases

Every time anon, I feel you so fucking stupid.

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>>732210519
what causes someone to open steam, be presented with thousands and thousands of timeless games that are finely crafted by people with passion skill and talent, and then ignore all of them and buy something like this instead? i am genuinely asking

>>732206907
Has this not been obsidian from the start? Their first games were KOTOR2 and neverwinter nights 2.

>>732211069
>>732211059
It's just ok but it sold enough to make a sequel

>>732206907
all they have to do is make a good game

>>732211098
Saddest part is some of these people are actually really really smart, just not in the aspect of being smart enough to address how just because someone goes Like to a post or views an ad doesn't mean the person is engaged and going to purchase.

>>732206907
>outer worlds 2 was in development 6+ years
wtf I thought the first one came out like 3 years ago but it released in 2019, 7 years ago
I'm so fucking old holy shit

Just put Avellone in charge of something. I like Sawyer but he needs some humility and/or to pivot entirely to artsy indie projects

>>732211179
Because I'd rather buy that than some finely crafted DWilson

>>732211427
I dont think he works there lad

>>732211339
It only get worse

>>732207481
You people keep posting the companions like thats the reason people didnt buy the game.
The truth is both were so ass i quit before even getting more than 2 companions, and they had nothing to do with why i dropped them

>>732206907
They pretty much abandoned Grounded 2 tho. The Christmas update was literal nothing burger with 1 reskinned bug, and the new trailer for next update dropped few days ago and it consists 90% of old stuff.

>>732211530
>like thats the reason people didnt buy the game
It is

>>732211624
>abandoned their only successful game
kek, no surprise there from obsidishit

>>732210868
Those people are crazy. The game just has decent first person melee combat with enough numbers behind it to make it feel like a real RPG. The exploration is nice because the rewards feel substantial.
The writing is asexualcore as fuck.

>>732211098
When you're in a meeting with 10 people and 2 karens have FOMO you will always lose the logical choice

I actually want to try avowed but shit is still overpriced and they havent released any 3rd party keys

>>732211279
I kind of liked it, I just do not see how it could commercially been successful
Are you sure WotC are not just desperate after throwing the money Larian could have made them out of the window?

>>732211530
If you have hot girls as LIs, the hype will roll even for meh quality.

It's hilarious that they can't immediately identify the issues why these games flop. Ask their art director for one at least.

>>732211427
They fired Avellone for the false metoo allegations didn't they? Doubt he's interested in going back but god knows they need him.

>>732206907
What? Grounded 2 released already?

Looked it up, grounded 2 is early access with "We aren’t locking ourselves into a hard date just yet; it’ll really depend on how things go and how much we add based on your feedback. We’ll keep you posted along the way"
They can go fuck themselves, I really liked grounded 1 but we will see about this one.

>>732207000
Yup, this. They have nothing left in the tank, they're better off just gone. I guess it doesn't matter because I'm not gonna play any of their lifeless, unambitious slop. None of their games have any character or life to them. They're all designed by committee.

>Make smaller, funner RPGs
>Stop being like Piranha Bytes and chasing the same high over and over
>Lonely men and women are easy to please. Husbando and waifu autism sells
Easy peasy.

>>732211935
It released in july last year, bro. I guess it can't have had a huge budget like Outer Worlds or Avowed so it didn't need to sell as much to be a success.

>>732212026
>I really liked survival crafting slop 1
>thinks he gets to have an opinion

>>732211935
early access

>>732212002
Yea but the OP speaks about it like it was released already, i'm waiting for it to come out

>>732211112
>the aasima
No idea what that is, I'm ignorant to FR and DnD lore.
>JK Simmons's zombie daughter
She was mind controlled when I fought him

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>>732206907
by doing nothing

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I really liked Pentiment.

RIP studio.

>>732206907
The release of Pillars of Eternity made it clear that Obsidian is incapable of making good games anymore. The people are gone, the few remaining big names are useless old farts.
That reminds me, Sawyer is a giga faggot and I want to see him suffer.

>nothing but LGBTQ mystery meat companions with forgettable personalities
>make the gameplay shit and awkward like New Vegas (or Gamebryo/Creation engine in general) on purpose instead of actually good
>Outer Worlds is basically Starfield meets Borderlands
>Avowed is basically Skyrim meets Borderlands

>>732206907
They deserve it

>>732212220
>each day you have meals with people, showing authentic Medieval foodstuffs that differ depending on the social class of the people you eat with
I will forever shill it for that alone

>More games in the PoE universe
Why? The universe has been boring since the beginning and has only gotten worse as every game has a completely different look and feel. So now not only is it boring, it also lacks identity.

>>732207412
>shitty studio making shit games dies
I fail to see how this isnt a positive. More public space and more opportunities for good games.

>>732212259
>Pillars of Eternity
>the dev commentaries version
You do not hate obsidian enough before you haven't heard the cucks and arrogance-dripping arthoes wanking themselves off about what they vomited out there

>not a single post mentioning gameplay in any way
You people don't play video games.

>>732206907
Obsidian vidya are too asexual and old person coded. Unironically they need to look at Owlcat, Warhorse, Larian, CDPR, etc. and see that people only play RPGs for romance now. Wokeness doesn't matter, no non-woke games are made anyways and tons are hits, just add sexuality and romance so lonely chuds and chudettes that are into singleplayer vidya can enjoy them.

>>732212128
>No idea what that is
the Nightsong, brother
>She was mind controlled
you let her die?

>>732206907
Regardless of how shit they would've been and how butt fucking ugly the companions were, them proudly proclaming that both games won't have romance options, and even making it part of the marketing of Outer Worlds 2, showed how much they didn't get their own audience.

>>732212468
>gameplay
Outer Worlds 1 and 2: New Vegas in Space 1 and 2
Avowed: notSkyrim
There's really nothing to discuss.

>>732206907
They don't deserve to be saved

>>732206907
Outer worlds and avowed just have the blandest fucking artstyles ever. At least pillars 1 had a cool story and 2 had guns, but goddamn everythings just so boring and ugly

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lol
lmao

>>732210001
lesbians who are two pretty white-looking ladies, not that woke. Shadowheart's trans friend is easter-egg tier. It's not made very explicit that Balduran and the dragon were actively lovers.
It's all a matter of presentation and one person can ignore some of that stuff if they desire so. In Obsidian's games where every other important character is a bossy lesbian with a buzzcut, not so much

>>732212682
>the Nightsong, brother
Oh, the chick in the Shar temple, yeah, I let Shadowheart kill her.
>you let her die?
Combat started, she was aggro, so I nuked her. Don't see why I'd go out of way to save someone I saw one time before, for a grand total of 2 appearances.

>>732212128
It was the Nightsong at the end of the Gauntlet of Shar. Even outside of the lesbian relationship, she is the most grating and insufferable character in the game.

>>732212892
You had a blessed first run.

Fuck them. NV trannies need to let go of that studio it's been shit for over a decade.

>>732206907
Obsidian are nothing without Avellone

>>732207412
>/v/ who hasn't bought a single game from them ever:
Most people here have played KOTOR2 and New Vegas, what the fuck are you talking about sped?

>>732207479
It's really not worth playing. Not because it's remarkably horrible. It's not even good enough to be bad. It's not good enough to illicit an emotional response one way or the other. It's just one big nothing. I can't remember a single NPC, quest, companion, weapon, or location off the top of my head. I don't even remember the plot, though I'm absolutely certain I played the game through the ending.
It was lifeless. It had nothing to it. It was designed by committee and was the most uninteresting game one could possibly create. You literally could not recreate it if you tried, because they did not try to begin with. It's hard to even describe how forgettable it is, because I forgot everything that happened in the game. It didn't do anything remarkably good or bad. It just was. It's like trying to remember the 354th grain of rice you ate out of a bowl. You are simply not going to remember it.

>playing a bit of Outer Worlds 2 since I have game pass anyway
>guns feel like complete shit to use
>game overall lacks tension/excitement, it's more of a slow stroll
>everyone tries to be way too zany/funny
>getting bored 15h in
>apparently i'm only at 20% of the game
egghhhhh

like, it's better than doing nothing
but that's about it

>>732207000
this, another loss for the wokies

>>732212926
>>732212979
Seems like I dodged a bullet

Obsidian really needs to experiment with a more open ended rpg experience instead of it being overly linear and narrative driven.

>>732213317
Like the games in OP you mean?

>>732206907
you put it out of its misery like a dying dog with cancer

>>732211771
Solasta just used the free DnD license I think

>>732212892
>I let Shadowheart kill her
If you let her decide, she lets Aylin live unless you have low approval with her. What was your run like that you had low approval with Shadowheart in Act 2? My evil ass Dark Urge run had to tell her to do it or she'd spare her.

>>732208912
No that's just convergent evolution

>>732206907
kek get owned wokies

>>732207000
based trips

>>732213357
>Outer Worlds
>open ended
It's about as open ended as a choose your own adventure book.

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>>732207979
>romance
No no no, anon. Sex, when it is not about representation of ambiguously brown ugly trooned out lesbians is not allowed.

I'd rather get another Avowed than Outer Worlds. I thought OW was an okay 6.5-7/10, but mainly due to the DLC, but I genuinely enjoyed Avowed. It had some fun weapons and I liked the story, but I also realize that the lore was all preexisting.

>>732206907
Obsidian has not made an even remotely decent game in years now, null shock to be had with this outcome.

>>732207196
The average profit target in gaming is 10-15% and we don't know if Xbox even makes real profit.
30% is pretty much impossible but you need to remember that every single other MS division makes insane money so Xbox is the retarded brother even if it makes some money.

>>732213568
>anon realizes that every game is limited to the quests the devs made and can't just invent new things on the fly

>>732213392
I didn't let her decide, I told her to just kill the bitch, since Shadowheart couldn't stop going on and on about Shar. I was still miffed from that stupid fucking "follow this path exactly or die" trial and wanted to be done with that place.

>>732206907
Good. Fuck the democrats and DSA.

Obsidian was created due to key Black Isle devs dispersing after the company dissolved. How about doing the same thing over again because clearly there's some fat that needs trimming at Obsidian. Just close it down and begin anew.

>>732213663
Shar's the biggest cunt of all the gods so you should've just denied her

I honestly just think that media released by people in a society are influenced by the overall state of the world. Everything sucks, the zeitgeist is fried, and the biggest perceived virtue for modern normans is to pick a side of the fence and show your bare butthole to the opponent baboon style.

Games way back when were probably only better because the society was. Vidya writers were influenced by actual good sci-fi(see, half-life's writing team being mostly comprised of people who were previously writing sci-fi for magazines for a living.) and the psychosis was way lower.

>>732213314
Kind of. Them hogging your camp for no reason is possibly the more performative LGTB shit in the whole game, and that is saying a lot seeing the rest.
Pissed me off because in the first run I had hopes that Isobel would become a good-aligned cleric alternative to Shart

>>732207412
it sends a message to any surviving studios

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>>732206907
Ehm, No?

>>732206907
shocker. woke slop sells like shit? thats new.
S.

>>732213579
that woman owes me love and sex

>>732206907
Big problem is the one writer who keeps making every game exactly the same. Dude is killing the company because he won’t come up with new ideas or let someone else take the reins.

>>732213910
Like I said, I know nothing about DnD lore, and the game really didn't do much to make me dislike Shar. So I just thought of it was helping Shadowheart.
>>732213967
Holy fuck, they start loitering in camp? Yeah, I dodged a bullet, I just sent that old prune druid on her way as well.

>>732206907
Article is wrong. Everyone told me at release that Outer Worlds 2 was a big hit.

>>732207235
>Last year the developer released three games—a rare and impressive achievement for a studio of its size—but two of them failed to meet sales forecasts set by Obsidian’s parent company, Microsoft Corp. “They’re not disasters,” Urquhart says. “I’m not going to say this was a kick in the teeth. It was more like: ‘That sucks. What are we learning?’”
So they didn't live up to Microsoft's 30 % target, but I guess they broke even or were at least close to breaking even. I'm not surprised, like they talk about in the article, that recouping six years of development and making a 30 % profit margin on top of it isn't easy.

When Epstein calls people goyim he is talking about Josh Sawyer and the people he surrounds himself with

>>732208474
Someones got to pay for the copilot ai servers, and lord knows it won't be copilot itself

>>732214668
>Someones got to pay for the copilot ai servers
What is Azure & Cloud for 500, Rick. Azure alone brings in far more profit than Xbox does lmao by a lot. Azure, and all of their Cloud services have increased while Xbox has decreased in revenue.

https://news.microsoft.com/source/2026/01/28/microsoft-cloud-and-ai-strength-drives-second-quarter-results-3/

>>732209408
Owlcat and Laurian games are still fun, in spite of their flaws. nu-Obsidian garbage is completely derivative and actively boring to play.
Normally, if a game is boring, I'll at least finish my session and simply not pick it up again. OW is the first game where I actually stopped mid-session out of pure boredom. It's actually impressive how they managed that, because I'll play any old garbage.

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>about to be placed on the chopping block by Microsoft
>Only good game everyone remembers them for just got eradicated out of the Canon
Welcome in the Todd Won timeline

>>732206907
>6+ years of dev time for slop
Jesus fucking Christ. Just kill the company already. Put it out of its misery.

>>732211427
Avellone hates Obsidian management too much to ever work with them again. I think he's content just being a contractor for random games.

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>>732207000
S

Should have never kicked out Avellone.

>>732215259
Hilarious that Obsidian's claim to fame is just making sequels for other companies, while all their original IPs flop.

>>732215819
Also ruining the communities of said ip's because of the fake pseudo intelectual bullshit like KOTOR 2

>>732208379
If you tell them to put hot bitches in their game or get stabbed in the arm they'll ask you if they can pick which one.

Bethesda Obsidian and Microsoft all suck dick. It's time for them to exit gaming once and for all.

>>732208107
Its always interesting reading shill posts.

>>732206907
>How do you save Obsidian, /v/?
fire everyone and close the studio

>>732216013
I never said to buy the game. I said it is better than 1. It is. Literally everyone who has played both agrees with this.

>>732216141
Its more of the same, you're screaming into the void if you think saying the game is better will be believed by anyone with a brain.

>>732215981
Sure blizzdrone

I haven't seen a single human being actually play OW2. Even avowed had more humans actually talking about it

>>732212065
Sry that you got minecraft-damaged in your formative years.

>>732216261
It won't be believed by retarded niggers like you because you don't play games, you just bitch about them. All I said was it was better. Personally I think it is a $40 (or free) game at best and the fact that they thought OW2 should be the first $80 game was hilarious. Game is still better than the 1st one, and I care because they advertised the first ones as from 'the creators of fallout new vegas' and it was a far cry from that. OW2 is closer, even if it is still far away.

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Rate xbox's rpg studios from best to worst.
1. Inxile
2. Bethesda
3. Obsidian
4. Playground games (lmao)

>>732209847
you're wrong and an idiot, I don't care who puts it out I want DEI garbage to fail so that gaming can finally heal

>>732216665
>because you don't play games
I don't consume games, I play games. If a game is going to be obviously shit, like OW2 was obviously going to be, I don't waste my money or time.
>OW2 is closer, even if it is still far away.
lol
lmao
Enjoy your hag faction leader NV wannabe.

>>732206907
Maybe they should stop using generic character creator characters across the board and concentrate on something.. cool?
They have been in the business for so long that they should know better than shitting out generic UE5 slop with woke AI written scripts.

>>732207412
Alpha Protocol is a game I really want to love and recommend to other people, but all the jank, bugs, and general bullshit typical to an Obsidian game killed it on release so there's zero hope of a sequel and even now it's forgotten to the annuals of history despite the dialogue system being something that devs should have stolen as a natural improvement on the ME dialogue wheel.

>>732206907
Deserved, rot in feces

Making a sequel to OW1 had to be one of the biggest confusing moves I've seen a company make because I don't know anyone who played it or seeing it make a splash

Literally WHO wanted one?

>>732217175
The team did. They don't want to make your boomer franchises, unc. The people who made them are gone or actively dislike the old franchises.
>BRO WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A SEQUEL TO A 30 YEAR OLD GAME
Because the average employee is probably like 28 lmao.

>>732217367
Bait used to be believable.

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>>732206907
By killing them. They turned to the fagways long ago. No cure. No saving them.

>>732217407
It's actually only 50% bait. Why do people expect them to make sequels to ancient games when like only 1% of the people at the company worked on those games.

>>732206907
duh

>>732217517
I never said they should make sequels to old games. Cool strawman. I said why make a sequel to a game literally nobody gave a fuck about.

I can at least understand grounded. People actually bought and played it even if it's not my thing. OW1 was a worse NV and you can just play the real deal

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>>732206907
>the only good games they made are ancient or done by the Grounded team

>>732207754
Flops do not kill bad games, they kill risk. This in turn creates more "sure-fire" or "safe" games. So if you like Ubislop open worlds with towers and cinematic walking simulators then yes, you are going to get more games that appeal to you.

>>732216876
>Bethesda
shit
>Obsidian
shit
>inXile
Haven't played any of their stuff besides Bard's Tale (good) to be honest.

>>732215912
Kotor2 is dogshit man. It's so overwhelmingly inferior to the first game, which actually understands the fundamental underlying spirituality of the source material. The only good thing Kotor2 did is add cooler robes.

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>>732218102
>actually understands the fundamental underlying spirituality of the source material
Force = good, Dark = unnatural poison?

>>732206907
grounded 2 is so fucking terrible. too many bugs, boring map, few qol improvements. this game has no tells that it was a sequel built in the same engine by the same people apart from the artwork

>>732218207
Anon, KOTOR 2 began the "force is le bad" talk

>>732215046
Yes Billy, Azure and Cloud is MS's biggest earner above all. However AI still a money pit and there was a 20% difference between GAAP and Non GAAP earnings when AI came into play.
It'll be a real shame if MS gives up the OS, office production & games market to be strictly a 2nd fiddle cloud service provider with a money pit AI service.

>>732206907
I fucking hate that Outer Worlds "Mascot".
It's such a shitty attempt to steal from Vault boy, it look so vile and smug

>>732218852
>It'll be a real shame if MS gives up the OS, office production & games market
Well don't look now but Wall Street has completely cucked every software and financial backer of software in the last 48 hours because they think AI will replace all that stuff. MSFT would go to the moon if they dropped Windows and Office.

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>>732206907
Avowed was shit garbage.

Obsidian was anal-pained that they got shafted by Bethesda when they kept wanting to work within their universes after New Vegas, so they set out to create their own competing fantasy universe that FEELS like is was written by basedlennial retards.
And the only thing they achieved after 6+ years of development is slightly better combat than 15 year old Skyrim, prettier graphics (thanks to the 15+ year difference & the Unrealslop engine) and worse everything else.

>NPCs are stagnant, stay in the same place 24/7
>Can steal in front of NPCS, nobody gives a shit
>Friendly NPCs won't budge from their fixed spots even when you bring enemies to them, nobody comments on it or reacts to fighting or literally anything you do in front of them
>Friendly NPCs unhittable
>Literally little to no reactivity in general by NPCs
>Enemies almost always only stay in spawn origin
>Objects are glued to their surfaces
>No fish
>Terrible physics
>Jump from a high surface and your character dies mid-flight
>Broken/awkward pathing on terrain and objects
>Crafting and systems are shallow
>Enemy variety low
>Awful writing
>Woke crap like choosing pronouns/crying about "muh colonialism"/andro characters/etc.
It's literal slop. They deserve bankruptcy.

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>>732207000
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>>732206907
>obsidian finally gets the resources to do their own big budget games
>they all flop
NV was a lighting in a bottle moment
Apologize

>>732206907
>go woke
>go broke
>???
>profit

>>732219148
Wtf is their obsession with Bethesda even? Why is their only thing:
>Let's copy Bethesda series but make it gay and retarded
???

>>732216280
and blizzard too

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>>732207000
Trips of truth have spoken
S

>>732208474
>>732213646
Successful games clear those 30% very easily. That's why you have so many retarded studios investing way too much money into games nobody wants. Because the profit margins on success are so great.

>>732219803
The Avowed boxart is fucking atrocious. I know what they were going for but it's bad

>>732207000
S

>>732207209
Microsoft will keep them around for as long as they think having filler games for gamepass is valuable.

Fire all women

Microsoft killed their studio. They were doing fine prior to the merger

>>732207412
What do you mean, retard? KotoR2, New Vegas and Alpha Protocol were great.

>>732220120
Their studio will still be filled with low-test reddit*rs, so it wouldn't make a difference

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>>732220120
The women are staying

>>732208250
Anon, you're confused. The GGG thread is two blocks down.

>>732208107
>More skill checks.
The skill checks are a pain in the fucking ass though.
>Sorry Anon you didn't have 5 points into anal spelunking, guess the last 3 minutes of exploring were a waste of time.
>Repeat 100 times.
It would be different if it just wasn't my focus but the game basically forces you to minmax in one combat thing and one non combat thing and fuck everything else. Between that and the story I just haven't bothered going back after a few hours in.

>>732220151
They still sucked before that and kept getting more and more woke.
Microsoft could have been the best thing to happen to them bc they could have gone the Bethesda route (what they're reportedly doing for TESVI) and pull in devs and resources from the Microsoft umbrella to help improve their engine + whatever else & maybe they did, but they still chose to greenlight slop, and that's entirely on them.

>>732220076
How could you not love this generic artstation portfolio-filler piece?

>>732210002
Those people live in the past, where Obsidian could still make good stuff. They probably haven't played any of the new trash they've been putting out.

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>>732207412
>I love vidya
>vidya industry is filled with dogshit
>dogshit maker goes out of business
>celebrate
It isn't complicated, you retarded troglodyte.
I celebrate any improvement of my hobby and there are a lot of improvements to be had...

>>732206907
Thought the main cope thrown around was that their production costs were way lower, at least for Outer Worlds 2

>>732206907
Is 30% profit really possible is microjew just taking the piss at this point for more layoffs?

>>732207412
I cheer when evil is defeated, even if the evil wasn't directly threatening me.

Great games come from the time and place people meet in history to creating magic. When games take more than 2 years, the great people move on because they don’t like the bureaucracy. There is a reason why games suck the majority of the time. It’s the employees and them churning. We took stalwarts who stayed at great companies for years producing hit after hit while testing limits of hardware in creative ways to suck every last ounce of performance to produce the best version of their dream within their limitations and replaced them with Karen’s and Raj’s who only know how to cut and paste in unreal