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It wasn't flooded with shovelware to the same degree.

Switch won

>>732235690
it was, you'd know since you posted re4 on the PS2 side. that game was graphically inferior than on the cube. argue all you want about games but in raw power the PS2 came in last place.

>>732235813
that logic doesnt make any sense

RE4 is a Gamecube game why is it on the PS2 side?

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Gamecube had some of the best games of all time that have aged beautifully like

- Mario Sunshine
- Melee
- Prime 1/2
- Twilight Princess
- Windwaker
- Luigi's Mansion

etc.

PS2 had way more games but the highs weren't as high

>>732235813
Nintendo games are shovelware

>>732235690
People who grew up with it are now old enough to be on the internet. Simple as.
I personally enjoyed mine, but I know it came in 3rd for a number of reasons

>>732235690
they were both good. lots of fun exclusives

I wish modern consoles had games like old consoles did

>>732236012
>best games of all time
>sunshine
>twilight princess
>Luigis mansion
You've got to be fucking with me

>>732236012
i imagine you as that anime girl you posted and i fell in love with you because i want a gf that looks like that anime girl but also plays video games. do you have a discord you wanna share?

>>732235690
The console was superior in terms of specs.

>>732235825
the faggy tablet award

>>732236012
xenosaga and metal gear solid alone completely annihilate that list

>>732236012
MGS2 is arguably the most important game from that entire generation.

>>732236231
>>732236246
Those are movies, not games.

>>732236137
they all live inside a nintendo bubble

>>732235690
Specs wise the Gamecube was vastly superior. Games wise, it was nowhere near it.

>>732235957
Revisionism. OP is actually satirizing the entire argument. His psot has LAYERS.

>>732236271
Seriously, you should play MGS2 if you haven't. I'm not joking, it's a prophetic game and that makes it incredibly impressive. I don't think any other game has held up as well because of that.

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>>732236301
>>732236137
as opposed to you retards who will say shit like old school cod or gow was peak
at least the tendies have good taste even if they are exaggerating how good their games are

>>732235690
Same reason why the N64 is considered to be almost as successful as the PS1 rather than the miserable failure that it actually was.

>>732235690
Because it's true; GC had superior specs.

>>732236379
MGS2 has some of the worst pacing in gaming history. Cutscene, hallway, codec call, five minutes of gameplay, repeat. It's only beaten by its sequels in terms of movie overload.

PS2 was the ball and gun game machine. Ask anyone around at the time what games they had on it and it's going to be some combination of fifa, madden, pro evo and gta

>>732236531
it was the weeb machine too

>>732235690
PS2 can't into 480p, no matter how you argue PS2 will always be last place on specs cause of it. If the DC can do 480p and the PS2 can't then its last place.

>>732235690
I've also seen some historical revisionism where from time to time Sony manages to pull out of their asses 5M more of PS2 sold.

>>732235690
specs wise, it was

game wise, ps2 rapes it

>>732236430
>Luigi's mansion
lol

>>732235690
Most of the games run at 60fps instead of single digit and fps is more important than graphix in hindsight

>>732236583
>5M outta the nowhere
>It happened twice
Suspicious...

The Xbox One was a better console than Nes, Snes, N64 combined because of its specs

>>732236469
The cutscenes are why it's held up so well and the gameplay itself is still good. One of the must play games from that era, and I'd put it above every Gamecube game in that regard.

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Gamecube was superior if you were an actual gamer and not a "ball & gun gamer".

>>732235957
It's also on the PS2 but it's a pretty bad port

>>732236680
>The cutscenes are why it's held up so well
Then just watch the cutscenes everyone has already heard about.

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>>732235690
According to who? Gamecube trannies?

>>732236557
It didn't really become the weeb machine until after the xbox 360 and ps3 came out
Then all of its releases dried up except for niche japanese games

>>732236780
That's not the full experience. Earthbound, Danganronpa, and Persona fans can fuck off.

REmake1 is unironically the only good gamecube exclusive

>>732235690
i don't get why people would go up to bat for anything during that generation
it was putrid

never should have put fans in consoles, they lost the plot, pc won

Cube babbys are now in their late 20s and 30s now. Guess who makes up the majority of /v/? it's not 12 year old's like you think.

gamecube is like subscribing to disney plus and watching capeshit where every movie stars iron man, thor and darth vader. and then a new movie comes out and you're like holy shit there's a new iron man movie. ps2 is like having access to a private tracker where you can download and play whatever the fuck you want.

>>732236815
now THIS is revisionist history. it had the nis games like disgaea and phantom brave, the .hack bamco games, weeb cash ins from series like full metal alchemist and inu yasha. you had persona, you had final fantasy, you had dragon quest, it was weeb heaven.

>>732236909
>they lost the plot, pc won
do you have any idea how much shovelware the pc has? the pc is like the worst console of all time due to the amount of shovelware.

GC has the lions share of the greatest games from that gen, but the fewest average to bad games. Having lots of average games matters to some people, even if you're missing out on the best

>gamecube more powerful than PS2 spec wise
>didn't matter in the slightest because of the tiny discs nintendo used so games had to be compromised anyways
nintentards are something else

>>732236993
Final Fantasy is not a weeb series, it was for normies
And most of the other games you listed came out after 2005

>>732235690
It depends on what your criteria is. PS2 had a far better library, but as a console itself, the Gamecube was generally far and way superior. The only revisionism is people treating the Gamecube versions of games as the definitive way to play, when 8/10 times that distinction went to the Xbox, with the only outliers generally cases where the devs themselves admit they just weren't very familiar with the Xbox and did a hackjob (e.g. Sonic Heroes, MGS2).

>>732235690
What are these so called superior ps2 games? I never had one and the only game i can think of that i was disappointed i couldn't play was shadow of the colossus. I like jrpgs but all the best ones i see posted are always on snes and ps1

>>732236246
Nah, that's still GTA3 or Resident Evil 4.

>>732236012
make a thread where you ask people their favorite gamecube games and these are the games you're gonna see over and over. make a thread about peoples favorite ps2 games and you're gonna learn about great games you've never even heard about before.

>>732237065
but gamecube versions usually had higher quality textures though............
and higher quality output resolution though.........................
it benefited from its power though............................

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>>732237065
Disc size doesn't matter.

>>732235882
Power means jack shit if you have no games

>>732237116
MGS2
MGS3
San Andreas

>>732237184
The smaller discs were better because they loaded faster

>>732237079
anon, the ps3 didn't come out until 2006 and even the 360 was very late 2005. i was a weeb in that era, i bought weeb games and i had a ps2. i bought so many fucking weeb games.

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>>732237252
True. F-Zero GX loads instantly and looks this good.

>>732237239
GX mogs all three.

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>>732235690
it was? why are there so many retarded 40 year olds who haven't grown up and accepted that the ps2 lagged behind gc in performance just because it looked like shit your tweenage brother liked unlike real men such as yourself (15 year old dudebro tourist who doesn't game anymore but got back into it due to his kids)

>>732236012
None of those games are as good or as soulful as KH1.

>>732236469
>>732236716
It's easy to hate ball and gun gamers, but do you have the courage to hate bing bing wahoo gamers?

>>732236716
FFXI>PSO. That's all that mattered, online play was the novelty of that era. Once I got my PS2, I barely used my Gamecube because FFXI was that good of a game.

>>732236469
it is literally only beat by 1 game, and that's MGS4. MGS3 is very well paced, and MGSV is more interested in being a boring open world than having a plot.

>>732237354
Yeah maybe on a technical level but in terms of a true artistic vision no

>>732236716
What does ball and gun mean?

>>732237563
But there's skippable story sequences so that means the pacing is bad!
Look, that guy is pretending to not know what pacing means. He made up a scenario in his head and requires that you agree with it. It's not grounded in reality, he just hates anything non-nintendo. That's his schtick. Get it yet?

>>732237239
San Andreas is actual garbage. The gameplay is pure shit and most of it is just driving to a destination and back. The game barely even has any sound effects.

>>732236716
It felt better

>>732235913
Negativity bias. Even though PS2 has a huge catalogue of great games, the bad tends to be what people remember because the pool is diluted. GC is kinda like a greatest hits band. A good chunk of it is exceptionally mediocre, but because of its slam dunk titles, it's remembered more fondly.

>>732236175
>PS5 got thoroughly raped and gaped by a faggy tablet
Oof.

A lot of vidya youtubers are Nintendo fans and young people that discuss games online primarily get their takes from those youtubers

>>732237116
>I like jrpgs but all the best ones i see posted are always on snes and ps1
basically every PS2 SMT game is stellar, with the sole exception being Raidou 1. Then there's the more niche stuff like Radiata Stories, .hack, Rogue Galaxy, Phantasy Star Universe, Disgaea 1 and 2, the Atelier games, Mana Khemia and so on.

>>732236893
TTYD, Pikmin 1+2, RE4

>>732236430
Devil may cry
God of war
Final fantasy
Metal gear solid
Grand theft auto
Ratchet and clank
Jak and daxter
Persona
Katamari
Silent Hill
At the very least

>>732237335
>looks this good
Not at that resolution, though.

>>732237663
People who only play one kind of game - either FPS or sports.

>>732237893
What about nintendo guys that only play bing bing? I deal with a lot more of them here.

tendies itt are really talking about paper mario and tales of symphonia as if the ps2 doesn't have a jrpg library that swallows those two games and then shits them out a hundred times over

they call themselves "real gamers" yet they all like the same four infantile games... when will they stop the self humiliation?

>>732237773
>RE4
>exclusive

I honestly didn't really enjoy the libraries of either, I liked the Xbox more. I really liked the ugly cartoon aesthetics of a few of the launch titles and generally liked the multiplats more on the system. The dashboard was nice too, so was having an HDD that I could save my music to. Playing my own music over Tournament Paintball and THPS3 was great. I know the controller wasn't great but I liked it at the time, moreso than the PlayStation or Gamecube controllers. Xbox Live was also nice to have, even if my internet plan wasn't the best at the time.

>>732238147
That said, there are some games that I liked. F-Zero GX and Metal Arms immediately come to mind.

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>>732236012
>PS2 had way more games but the highs weren't as high

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>>732236674
Different generation, retardo

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>>732238325
The highs are oh so high on Cube. No really, it's the tallest console of its generation.

>>732235690
>Why have i seen so much historical revisionism these last few years
....where exactly?
Posted by whom?

Because I think you're just pushing some weird narrative to meme around.
It's also weird to put the RE4, a literal NGC exclusive, on the PS2's side.
Sony only got a shoddy port almost a year after the original release, practically months before PS3 dropped.

Could've at least used something like MGS2 or SH2.

>>732236012
None of those are anywhere near "the best games of all time". Some of it, like the Twilight Princess, are literally the WORST the franchises have to offer.

No, I am not joking. I have owned the GC since 2003, and PS2 since 2002.

Meanwhile, PS2 got:
>FFX
>SH2-4
>MGS2-3
>Fatal Frame 1-3
>Ico
>SotC
>DMC1-3
>GTA3, VC, SA
>Jak 1-3
>R&C 1-3
>Persona 3-4
>Yakuza 1-2

...and a plethora of multiplats + backwards compatibility to the PS1 library.

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>>732237252
>>732237335
>Play Melee
>load times are 2-3 seconds
>Play Melee with 4 players
>Loads are instantaneous

>>732235690
It had way better games and party games

>>732235690
It had better party games, multiplats and specs. Ps2 had jrpgs, hack n slash, rhythm games, and sotc though

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mogs every gamecube platformer

>>732235690
I was born in '91 and I can tell you that my impression was that the Gamecube was for kids, and mostly weird kids had them. But I was jealous for Melee alone.

brownstation 2

>>732238457
Fun fact: Melee starts loading the characters as you select them on the CSS. Easy to observe if your disc is scratched and the instant you select certain characters your game gets a disc read error.

>>732238480
In your dreams Snou

>>732236137
Nintendo faggots are absolutely delusional, kek

>>732238445
>It's also weird to put the RE4, a literal NGC exclusive, on the PS2's side.
To me it's really funny because there's RE4/GC fans here that get really touchy about miniscule details in the American GC version of the game that aren't present in any other version, even the PAL and JP version.

>>732238550
It's weird the controls are different if you're playing classic mode or not.

I have noticed that everytime Nintendo gets its sales thing posted, one of these "why is gamecube so beloved when it flopped and got wrecked by ps2" is always posted.

>>732238526
Fuck you bloody basterd ps2 best console ever bitch benchod

>>732238445
>Because I think you're just pushing some weird narrative to meme around.
op's probably the same retard that posts the twitter tranny crying about croc not being remember as much as banjo as 5th gen console war bait

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They remember it so well because it was the last console that any IP they gave a shit about was worth a piss/not humiliation ritualized into the normiesphere.

>>732235690
Nintendo fans are louder. Everyone else are more chill.

>>732238445
The sly series is better than jak and ratchet

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>>732235690
Why you used RE4 for this when it originally debuted in the game cube and it was actually better than the later PS2 version from a technical point of view?

>>732238685
Did you know the PS2 was the first console to have games made in India?

>>732238762
yup

I always thought GTA3 and VC didn't come to Gamecube because it only had 1.5gb discs. But I saw recently that both games came in at under 1.5gb in their original versions. So why didn't they come out on Gamecube?

>>732235690
they do the same shit when it comes to discuss N64 vs PSX.

Honestly Madden 2005 is a deeper and more cerebral game than bing bing wahoo waterpark. Tendies talk about "sportsball" games when they would probably be too hard for them.

>>732237735
The Gamecube had like 10 games and everyone had the same few titles. So there's a shared nostalgia about the same handful of Gamecube games whereas most PS2 players played vastly different games because it had so many options.

>>732239152
Every single used PS2 memory card has exactly two saves on it, GTA SA and some sports slop. The PS2 audience objectively played the same exact games.

>>732239080
It wasn't worth it

>>732239080
Sony had exclusive rights to GTA for a while, but Rockstar also said they didn't think it was worth it after Smuggler's Run 2 sold like shit on the Gamecube and they saw the console's sales

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>>732238104
can't you read? what do you think "ONLY FOR" means?

>>732239252
>dumb third world zoomer doesn't realize the normalfags were playing socom

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>>732236674
Actually yeah. It had most of the N64 games worth playing anyway

>>732236893
Eternal Darkness was awesome

>>732239363
that's the capcom 5 logo, only 4!!

>>732235690
NGC has a better cpu and gpu, it can display better graphics than the PS2, often at 60fps too, it would completely surpass ps2, sadly nintendo made the retarded descission of using mini-dvds wich made 3rd party games being cut in content, audio, and texture details.

>>732239884
imo there's not that big a difference between average ps2 and gc games. xbox has the most noticeable differences but ps2 and gc usually trade blows. They run at the same res and gc has some drawbacks like fewer buttons which hurts games like ssx, and ps2 could do way better particle/custom effects.

>>732235690
they were both good
the most notable difference is ps2 could play DVDs and had IIRC a significantly larger library.
I don't recall if gamecube had online functionality, I assume it didn't really, but PS2 did IIRC, for whatever that's worth.

>>732235813
Nigger the entire third party library for Gamecube is nothing but liscensed cartoon shit.

>>732236012
I agree the gamecube is better but dude mario sunshine is a legitimate 3/10

>>732235690
It was though? Wait are we talking technical superiority or the games. Because the Gamecube was actually more powerful, see the PS2 port of RE4. If it's the latter it's all subjective. I can name dozens of games I like on both consoles.

why do uncs keep making threads about their old ass consoles

>>732237367
This.

>>732240834
Because video games have started sucking ever since the PS3/360 era.

>>732240834
Because it's the last generation with an actual interesting comparison. PS4 VS Xbone? Every important game is on both. It's just a matter of what you've already bought into in the past deciding what you get next.

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Why do Cubies keep saying that the PS2 was a "Shovelware machine" but whenever I look for the best Third party Gamecube games it usually looks like this?

>>732238762
Sly 2 is the best game out of all of them but I think Ratchet is the better series.

>>732240897
lol
https://youtu.be/epxyyXL8e7U
let me share my pain with you

when you emulate the ps2 you're looking at a mountain of games from a variety of different publishers
when you emulate the gamecube you're looking at nintendo games, soulcalibur 2, and viewtiful joe

>>732240990
There have been, and always will be, bad video games. What I am referring to is the industry practices of the time. The PS3/360 era introduced some of the worst (((innovations))) that we know today. Cut content from the main game to be sold as DLC, games as a service, the idea of not owning a game, monthly subscription fees, always online, all of this started in that era.

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>>732240951
literally looked it up and this is what I got

>>732242312
Most of those were much worse on Gamecube than they were on PS2

Why are people still console warring when you can just emulate both right now? You don't have to defend the purchase you made over 20 years ago

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>>732242806
Seriously this.

Neopets the Darkest Faerie and Okami mog the SHIT out of the gamecube zelda games.

>>732242554
not as bad as RE4 which is what matters most compared to shovelware games

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>>732236012
>list all the shitty bing bing games as examples
lmao GCfags only play the same 3 games and think they have a right to talk about the console.

>>732235690
Personally it's a choice between aesthetics,library,and taste. The Gamecube just looked better than the PS2 as far as controller and the shape of the console goes. Even the startup was slightly better than the PS2 but way behind the PS1's intro. The PS2 had a larger library and more variety while the Gamecube was smaller but the multiplats it had were usually the best games on the PS2 so you could still enjoy alot of the popular games of that time. And if you just find Nintendo games more charming that'll factor in. The PS2 was better but I think the Gamecube was underrated and is just remembered more fondly because of Animal Crossing and the Mario Party games.

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>>732240834
Do you think people are still going to be talking about these old games long after the original audience they were made for dies out? Will OoT still top charts when every Millennial that grew up for it isn't around?

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>>732235690
No historical revision, zoomer

>>732235690
The hardware is technically slightly stronger but nintendo never nurtured enough third party devs to push the technology further towards the end of the generation. There are late end ps2 games that look better than anything on gc, because you had healthier competition on the ps2 and dozens of studios trying to squeeze every last drop of performance out of it.

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>famitsubabies insist that sales always equate to quality
>except when it comes to the Ps2 and Ps1
>those are magically exempt and they had no games whatsoever
>but the same famitsu babies will insist that the gamecube had zero games, and only "OOTsnoys" would like them

Try to make sense of this.

>>732235690
Because it was vastly superior to the PS2. It and the OG Xbox were the only 60fps consoles in that generation.
The problem is that it wasn't a fucking DVD player and Kojima was the only one who, like the PS1, could actually make something that looks good on the PS2.

>>732243092
>37 Gamecube games
>151 PS2 games

>>732235690
Because you're viewing all conversations that end in a loss for the playstation "side" as this revisionism, when in reality 90% of GC vs. PS2 threads are PS2 fans seething that they aren't literally the only console people talk about from that gen. No matter how shitty you think the gamecube was in comparison, it doesn't deserve complete obscurity, so the fags behind the playstation side of the argument lose anyway.

>>732247008
It’s the complete opposite. There’s a cadre of tendies that seethe endlessly over people not thinking the N64 or Gamecube were even comparable to the PS1 and PS2, much less better than them.

I just miss the days when console wars actually had some validity to them. When different systems actually had different hardware and architecture that meant they had actual strengths and weaknesses, could do different things, and games were made for particular platforms in ways that couldn't be fully translated to others. All this meant that when you got a particular console, it had a particular feel. They had exclusives and differences between libraries.

Now everything is the same. PS5 is just a prebuilt. Xbox is a prebuilt for people who want to rent games. There's no point to anything besides a PC. It's boring.

>>732247008
>schizo headcanon

Stop being a console warring tranny.

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>>732235690
I had both and love both equally :^)

>>732235690
It's more so the fact that the gamecube sold a tiny fraction what the PS2 did. Most people back then did not have a gamecube, and it was also heavily stigmatized at the time. Back then, you did not tell people you owned a gamecube. If you did you got picked on for having the kiddy purple lunchbox. It's dumb but that's just how teenagers acted. So a lot of people only "discovered" gamecube's library after the fact, either through wii backwards compatibility, emulation, general word of mouth, let's plays, whatever else.

I think this leads to people elevating GC in their minds, like it was some sort of secret that was hidden away that they rediscovered later. PS2 was just the standard that everyone knew. Gamecube was "different". Even though objectively PS2 was the superior system all around.

>>732236012
Epic bait.

>>732237116
Ico.

>>732235690
In raw power? It was.

>>732236646
Luigi's mansion is the closest we got to a great ghostbusters game until that one that came out on the 360 and the original Luigi's Mansion, as much as people bitch and moan about it being "A tech demo" is good and fun video game. Sunshine is the more egregious pick since 64 is the best platformer of all time, don't even come at me with that faggot crash bandicoot, Spyro 2 is great though, I will concede that

>>732249093
>closest we got to a great ghostbusters game
Who gives a shit.

As for the rest of you post. This is the problem with the nintendo bubble. You're desperate to bait an argument over platformers. Do you not recognize how many games are really out there? Did it cross your mind that there are people who don't have an interest in crash or spyro either?

>>732238480
Tak and The Power of Juju (a licensed game from Nickelodeon) clears this easily.

>>732249795
>You're desperate to bait an argument over platformers
It’s the classic N64 argument. It had the best 3D platformers of the generation so they try to subtly insinuate its a superior genre to other types of games. This of course ignores that the PS1 had respectable 3D platformers and actually had 2D platformers to speak of.

>>732239348
Which was bullshit because they released every GTA that gen on the Xbox.

>>732250028
I’d put them around the same. They’re both decent but not exceptional imo.

>>732242554
Now that's what I call revisionism

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>>732235690
The vast majority of PS2 (and PS1) owners were normies who no longer participate in the gaming discourse. Where as owners of the Gamecube (and N64) were overwhelmingly loser nerds who have gone on to shape the history and narrative of video games on the internet.

For white people the PS2 was a side console

>>732250323
Actually it comes down to Nintendo fans being white first worlders while Playstation fans are European at best.

>>732236012
9 year old me kind of agrees with you but the ps2 had gta and well you’re wrong.

>>732236012
Those hands are so small holy shit
>Imagine

>>732250452
Yea, I did neglect to mention another very large fraction of the playstation audience was also brown 3rd worlders.

>>732247226
ps1 and n64 has a bigger power gap than ps2 and cube. n64 does have a few standouts that ps1 really has no great equivalent to though like the zeldas and 3d platformers.

>>732236531
I will give the PS2 some credit, at least the ball and gun games were actually peak in that time

>>732250390
all consoles were a side console that gen and it was good. had dreamcast early on for sonic and arcade games. then ps2 for jrpgs, hack n slashes, and rhythm games and ssx. then ngc for smash, mario kart, sunshine and ww. then finally xbox for halo, fusion frenzy, and dreamcast sequels. you kinda juggled everything around that gen since there was something worth playing on everything

>>732238445
>Some of it, like the Twilight Princess, are literally the WORST the franchises
When the captcha finally gets changed to an IQ test and you arent able to post anymore, how will you spend your free time?

>>732235690
lotta tendies on here

>>732251701
tbf it was the worst at the time. we just didnt know how bad things would get

>>732251701
>linear hallways
muh grey and brown environments
>muh subversive marvel humor (ZANT IS JUST A LACKEY TO LE GANON, HAHA SUBVERTED! XD)

Garbage through and through.

>>732251768
Its literally better than every other Zelda other than maybe Windwaker but its a close competition between the two. MM and OOT are literally babbies first action adventure slop. The combat, the characters, the art design, everything is just unbearably bad. Its actually insane how millienial tendies are so blinded by nostalgia that they convinced everyone that they are good games.

>>732251816
>t. disney adult

>>732251859
all TP has going for it is midna porn and arbiter grounds. thats enough to be better than recent games though

The real historical revisionism is people acting like the PS2 didn't overwhelmingly have shovelware and that the vast majority of sales weren't due to the DVD player.

>>732252202
the ps2 has a lot of shovelware yes, it also has a LOT of good games. the gamecube had some good games, but it doesnt have even 1/10 as many as the ps2 does.

>>732252202
It did have shovelware, and the DVD function did sell quite a few units, but don't act like it lacked a library.

>Dark Cloud series
>Wild Arms
>Ratchet and Clank
>Jak and Daxter
>Sly Cooper
>armored Core
>ace combat

Come on.

>>732252353
Not to mention
>FFX
>shadow hearts 1/2
>LOTR games (theres like 4 good ones)
>digital devil saga
>nocturne

>>732236716
As much as I loved some of these games, they do not hold up anymore. Gotcha Force, Viewitiful Joe, Tales, Custom Robo, etc. were all awesome at the time, but feel really lame to play now.

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>>732252353
>dead series
>dead series
>dead series
>dead series
>dead series
>dead series.
>dead series.

>>732252202
shut the fuck up, PS2 is such a normalfag console. Garuntee most people got it because you could watch futurama and play music shit like greenday

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>>732252573
>Armored Core
>Ace Combat
>dead

>>732252607
the fact that normies might have been using it as a dvd player is irellevent to the quality of the best games it had to offer my big lipped spear chucking friend.

If the gamecube had gone with DVD's instead of tiny ones and it TOO could be used as a DVD player would that take away at all from the games you enjoy on it? The games you think are amazing? Would it have ANY effect on the quality of those games? Of course not. Its such a retarded non sequitor that I can't believe I even had to type this out. Popularity does not correlate with quality.

>>732247245
funny you say this since I think all the consoles today are just exaggerated versions of what you're talking about.

>PS is for lesbien revenge sims
>Nintendo is for babby bing bing wahoos
>Xbox is for broken games
>PC is for loser chuds

all comes full circle.

Anyways, see this is where Switch/2 is actually still distinctly different. By not having the massive third party shit like ass creed it leaves some room for indies to be checked out. And it has to sell on it not being the best graphically.

>>732252840
>retard doesnt understand the person he replied to was talking about hardware specs instead of exclusives

>>732252840
>By not having the massive third party shit like ass creed it leaves some room for indies to be checked out.
Then explain why Hollow Knight: Silksong can't even break 500k sales despite being on the switch and switch 2. That's a horribly low number for a game that sold about 7 million so far.

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Cel Damage was best on the GC and the ports that add a fucking health bar completely miss the point of the fucking game

>>732252202
>console with the single most 90+ rated games on metacritic
>1.5 billion software sales
>dvd players were as low as £70 by 2002 while the ps2 (£199)
lol no, i think the revisionism is the exact opposite faggot retard

>>732252958
you're over simplifying. First, gamepass gave it a huge push, second I WANT THIS GAME PHYISCALLY and its digital only so far, third this game will probably be ever green long terms sales could also add up.

>>732252573
tendies are so fucking stupid

Guys...I decided to see if the old ball games deserved all those absurd glowing reviews they used to get.
they might be right NBA Street is fucking awesome

>>732253316
yeah before they became epstein gambling sims they were innocent fun. What a fucking shame

>>732253316
old sports games were fucking god tier, anon. anyone who thinks sports games weren't fun before modernity brought their downfall are faggots who never played vidya with their friends

>>732253316
>>732253360
They were good on both ends of the spectrum too. You had great arcade sports games like NFL Blitz and the EA Sports Big label, and then on the opposite end you had really robust simulators out of Sega's ESPN games.
Then they started really controlling the licenses and it all went to shit.

>>732252958
Switch 2 is very new and was barely months old at that point. Obviously most people who want the switch 2 would focus on exclusives first. Maybe its also the fact that the marketing push wasn't as big as it should've been since most people were still playing donkey kong at that point.

>>732253547
you'd have to unironically be mentally ill to buy third party games on Shitch

>>732253491
>>732253360
>>732253465
>>732253316
>>732253316
Wait I just bought mlb the show 25
Is it not a wacky FUN baseball game? I’ve never played sports so I never played sports games

>>732253491
with licenses, should've made something unique. This is actually a secret problem the 6th generation had that I feel like is proto-anticonsumerism. And that it is, not even bothering with making fully original content. NO YOU JUST HAD TO INSERT SOME SHITTY BAND AT THE TIME

If we're talking about hardware, PS2 was easily the worst of the big three that gen hardware wise. It went Xbox ? Gamecube ? PS2 > Dreamcast in terms of specs. Now in terms of library? Probably PS2 > Dreamcast = Gamecube > Xbox

>>732253645
Bro wot mate? For Switch 1, plenty of third party games worked fine and you know what? Switch offered a cheap way of accessing those third party games. Also fuck you I can't stand snoys face buttons.

>>732244325
>thinking you're special because you made a 3x3
fucking kek anon you come off like such a faggot. the games you picked also couldn't be anymore "im not le normie frog,,," core either, get over yourself

>>732253645
you have to mentally ill to have bought and ENJOYED third party games on PS2

>>732237554
i dunno, PSO is the one that spawned genres
FFXI was just another uninspired everquest derivative, may as well have been another of that era's kmmo

>>732253645
there was an alien game that somehow ran at a higher resolution compared to PS4 lol

ps2 had the weakest specs but they were good enough especially when it was primarily a dvd player for 80% of the people who had one

>>732235690
personally? I think the xbox 360 is even better than the PS2. Pure western KINO

>>732253648
anon...

>>732253645
PS3 third party games ran like ASS half the time lol

>>732252958
you a bitch ass liar. Estimates put silksong selling around 2 million on Switch

>>732235690
>Why have i seen so much historical revisionism these last few years where people seem to have gotten the idea that the gamecube was a vastly superior console to the ps2?
Because only autists, trannies and tendies (repeating words) care about revising the world to their worldview and caring about a controller with an inferior layout and dogshit assymetry
If you look into it all these groups care about rewriting history
>trannies psyop people into thinking tendie games are the only real games much like how they trick people into thinking they are a woman
Tendies keep talking about the same 5 games everyone already has heard because they were poorfags growing up. Even disregarding this, their autistic tastes make them aversive to any sort of variety (hence tendie worship). The normiefag console was the PS2, a gaming console masquerading as a DVD player, and is why there is much more game variety.
This is why you don't hear much sentimentality from PS2 fans: they mainly care about the games rather than superficial details.
>>732237136
>make a thread where you ask people their favorite gamecube games and these are the games you're gonna see over and over. make a thread about peoples favorite ps2 games and you're gonna learn about great games you've never even heard about before.
This. Every time PS2 games are brought up I hear some shit I never heard of. Game variety is at least 10 fold on a PS2.
>inb4 "you're a snoy fan"
You mean being a fan of peak civilizational creation (PS2) and pinnacle of white connoisseur gaming? Poorfags and richfags, negro or white, all enjoyed the kino produced on the system either way. Even the PS3 is in hindsight better than the Xbone 360

>>732254093
>>732254093
Y-yes?
It was the only baseball game I saw

>>732254649
Citation for that?

>>732254837
lmao a pajeet

We'll just go year by year and I'll list off every game above an 8.0 (using Mobygames for this) for both systems. I am going to skip the yearly sports games because good fucking god there are too many of them. We'll just go year by year and you can make your own conclusions on which was better.
>PS2 2000 (launch year)
SSX
Dead or Alive 2 Hardcore
>PS2 2001
Silent Hill 2
Metal Gear Solid 2
Ico
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Jak and Daxter
Gran Turismo 3
Grand Theft Auto 3
Devil May Cry
NBA Street
Final Fantasy X
Splashdown
SSX Tricky
Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver 2
Ace Combat 4
Klonoa 2
>Gamecube 2001 (launch year)
Super Smash Bros Melee
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Pikmin
Star Wars Rogue Squadron 2
SSX Tricky
>PS2 2002
Grand Theft Auto Vice City
Ratchet & Clank
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Aggressive Inline
Burnout 2
TimeSplitters 2
Virtua Fighter 4
Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2
Gitaroo Man
Suikoden 3
Dark Cloud 2
Guilty Gear X2
WipEout Fusion
Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus
>Gamecube 2002
Metroid Prime
The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker
Resident Evil Remake
Eternal Darkness
TimeSplitters 2
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Aggressive Inline
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Monkey Ball 2
Animal Crossing
NASCAR Dirt to Daytona
>PS2 2003
Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution
SSX 3
NBA Street Vol 2
Prince of Persia The Sands of Time
SoulCalibur 2
WWE Smackdown
Ratchet & Clank Going Commando
Silent Hill 3
Disgaea Hour of Darkness
Zone of the Enders The 2nd Runner
Amplitude
Jak II
Beyond Good and Evil
Fatal Frame 2
Tony Hawk's Underground
Splinter Cell
>Gamecube 2003
Prince of Persia The Sands of Time
SSX 3
Viewtiful Joe
SoulCalibur II
Beyond Good and Evil
F-Zero GX
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Tales of Symphonia
Ikaruga
Rayman 3
The Lord of the Rings The Return of the King
NBA Street Vol 2
Burnout 2
Mario Kart Double Dash
The Sims

>>732254837
>pinnacle of white connoisseur gaming?


BHWAAAWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>732254845
Its probably the best of the modern sports series but that is a very, very low bar.

Do you think this retard will ever get over the fact that people still enjoy the N64 and Gamecube?

>>732254837
>You mean being a fan of peak civilizational creation

Yeah DS was fucking awesome

>>732254837
sit down little snoy boy, switch is the console of the century. Because unlike snoys, we aren't living in the past and decided to seize a future

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>>732255135
>we aren't living in the past
>he says while hyping up NSO rental roms and 70 dollar remasters and 80 dollar remakes.

>>732254998
cont.
>PS2 2004
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater
Burnout 3 Takedown
Dragon Quest VIII
Sly 2
Gran Turismo 4
Ratchet & Clank Up Your Arsenal
Katamari Damacy
Onimusha 3 Demon Siege
Gradius V
Jak 3
Ace Combat 5
Def Jam Fight for NY
007 Everything or Nothing
Shadow Hearts Covenant
Champions of Norrath
Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow
Phantom Brave
SMT 3 Nocturne
>Gamecube 2004
Metroid Prime 2
Pikmin 2
Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door
Def Jam Fight for NY
Viewtiful Joe 2
Metal Gear Solid The Twin Snakes
The Legend of Zelda Four Swords Adventures
007 Everything or Nothing
>PS2 2005
Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence
Shadow of the Colossus
Guitar Hero
God of War
Resident Evil 4
NBA Street V3
Burnout Revenge
Devil May Cry 3
Tekken 5
Kingdom Hearts 2
Midnight Club 3
We Heart Katamari
Sly 3 Honor Among Thieves
The Warriors
TimeSplitters Future Perfect
Prince of Persia The Two Thrones
Indigo Prophecy
Fatal Frame 3
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2006
Mercenaries Playground of Destruction
SSX on Tour
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Gun
King Kong
Ratchet Deadlocked
>Gamecube 2005
Resident Evil 4
NBA Street V3
Prince of Persia The Two Thrones
SSX on Tour
Fire Emblem Path of Radience
TimeSplitters Future Perfect
>PS2 2006
Okami
Final Fantasy XII
Guitar Hero II
Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition
Bully
Street Fighter Alpha Anthology
Lego Star Wars II
TOCA Race Driver 3
Persona 3
Splinter Cell Double Agent
Disgaea 2
Onimusha Dawn of Dreams
Hitman Blood Money
>Gamecube 2006
The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess
>PS2 2007
God of War 2
Persona 3 FES
Guitar Hero 3
Metal Slug Anthology
Lara Croft Tomb Raider Anniversary
Rogue Galaxy
Odin Sphere
>Gamecube 2007
N/A
>PS2 2008
Persona 4
>Gamecube 2008
N/A

>>732236035
Kys snoy

>>732255363
oh yes ALL of us are hyping it up. Fucking bitch. Also Virtual boy coming back is legitimately cool. especially with unreleased games coming out for it. But also that's IN COMBINATION of NEW entries for NS2 faggot.

Also lmao really? making sequels is just remakes to you? what a faggot. Mario Kart world is complete difference from other Mario Kart games. Also DKB adds in destruction mechanics so its not the fucking same like DK64

>>732236172
and nintendo was a retard again and chose an inferior disc format that wouldn't let third parties take proper advantage of the specs

>>732255573
or maybe it was because it was to force developers to focus on GAMEPLAY?

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>>732255563
>virtual boy coming back is legitimately cool

>>732255619
guess what faggot I don't see snoy bringing back psvita. what now?

>>732255602
what?

>>732255619
shut the fuck up hank hill

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>>732255695
>BUT WHAT ABOUT SONY

>>732255751
you niggers would hype it up so much if snoy brought back PSVITA. But unlike snoy, nintendo can actually revive shit.

>>732254998
>>732255393
A few observations I have:
>the peak years for both systems were 2001-2005. Both hit their peaks almost immediately after releasing
>both systems shared a lot of highly rated games. Many of the multiplats were better on Gamecube unless they had a wonky issue with the controller (I know in SSX Tricky for example that tricks were removed from the Gamecube version due to a missing grab button)
>The PS2 had an exceptionally long tail compared to...basically any other system that has ever been made.
>Capcom published both of the games that rated over a 9.0. RE4 on the Gamecube and Okami on the PS2 are the only games using Mobygames' aggregate to do that
>The PS2 benefited *a lot* from Rockstar publishing their games on it and not the Gamecube.
>They also benefited from quick turnaround on sequels (I have never understood Nintendo's reluctance to put more than one 3D Mario game out per system)
Overall I'd say the Gamecube library is very competitive even if its ultimately outclassed just by scale alone. I think it stands up better to the PS2 than the N64 does to the PS1 imo.

>>732255818
Just like how they revived Metroid Prime?

>>732255879
they still revived Metroid in general by making dread and personally I prefer 2D metroid anyways. I can concede that Nintendo is not perfect at making revivals all the time but I feel like it's between them and sega who actually give a shit about moving legacy IPs forward. SNOY CAN'T EVEN TRY TO GET BLOODBORNE REMASTERED

>>732255879
Better than anything sony or valve makes

>>732255968
>valve out of nowhere
not beating the seething tendie accusations

>>732255984
lmao but he's not wrong. Valve can't even revive the concept of making games LMAO. Also I have serious concerns with valve if deadlock is ALL we're getting

>>732255963
>they still revived Metroid in general by making dread and personally I prefer 2D metroid anyways.
Ah yes, a game inferior to what indies offer on the regular. Sasuga Nintendo.

>>732255984
No need to get defensive, PC vegan.

>>732235690
>gamecube was a vastly superior console to the ps2?
Even the Dreamcast was superior to the PS2 but they didn't have the user base to make the hardware upper hand count in sales, you may have noticed starting with the Wii they just started using underpowered hadware compared to either Microsoft or snoy, probably the reason that the Wii U flop wasn't enough to knock them out of the console market.

>>732236246
It was on GameCube too

>>732236435
It’s really shocking looking back at how the PS1/PS2 were exponentially more successful than the N64/GameCube. With how much people talk about the games on the latter 2 consoles you’d imagine them to have sold way more

>>732256038
are you a fucking nigger? do those indie have a sexy space lady? Also, no indie metroidvanias are not the same since Metroid dread still focused on raw gameplay. Also the story is better since a lot of indies just try to make depression sims. Also the raw gameplay is better too. See I actually play games and I've played metroid dread so I know. Axiom verge is ok I guess but it's not the same. Also fuck you I can love indie metroidvanias too alongside metroid since most of them are on the switch anyways. I can actually enjoy two cakes. Also I like that dread at least isn't more pixelshit

>>732256051
nigga you bought nintendo brand cardboard

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>>732256213
>do those indie have a sexy space lady
They have a sexy bug lady. Even better. Also, didn't bother reading the rest of your drivel.

>>732255818
nigger you can head to any use game store and buy a shita. you bought a 100 piece of plastic to use with your rented roms with nintendo’s shitty emulators lol

>>732253797
>list examples of a good library with fucking pictures
>oh my GOD is that ur 3x3 fav geams!?
Nice deflection from having to play anything besides stankmelee, sunshine and zelda tendie

>>732237116
Ignore the nerds in this thread listing their favorite obscure PS2 games like Ico as titles that made people buy it. The average normie genuinely just played GTA. The PS5 right now is probably only selling in anticipation for GTA 6 too. This is all that the typical casual player cares about and the PS2 had plenty of GTA games, sports games and miscellaneous titles to keep them happy in their 3rd world country

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>>732256286
>hornet is sexy

LMAOOOOOOOO

like you're not that wrong but still

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>732235690
It's because the Gamecube library and fanbase is concentrated enough that you can lump it all into a single discussion.
Even here you can sometimes see Gamecube threads. When's the last time you saw an actual Luigi's Mansion thread? Or a thread exclusively about Super Mario Sunshine?
Meanwhile the PS2 has a hell of a lot less threads as a console. But discussion about specific games vastly outnumbers the cube. MGS2 threads, SOTC threads, Silent Hill 3 threads and so on.

>>732235690
Nintendo consoles have SOVL, which means they age like wine, while the sovlless competitors age like milk. This isn't difficult to understand but snoyim will keep pretending they don't since their whole identity is based around being retarded

>>732251859
Twilight Princess has the slowest fucking intro to any video game ever made ever and probably 50% of people who bought it never made it past the first dungeon

>>732235690
Why do Sonyfags harbor a victim complex over two console generations their systems handily won?

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>>732256446
>tranime

>>732255573
the idea that better specs become useless when discs have less storage is pretty questionable.

>>732256565
fuck you japanese rapist pajeet.

>>732256565
lmao are you gay?

>>732256589
This. The N64 using cartridges was a massively retarded decision even at the time but the GC’s mini discs really weren’t much of an issue. Plenty of third party games had no problems on the GameCube unless there was some issue with the controls

>>732256446
see I just KNEW that something was missing in the team cherry games

>>732256632
>>732256664
Not all of us have low standards.

>>732236435
OoT kind of hard carried the console. If that game was the only game the console ever sold it still would have been a massive success.

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>>732256565
>team discord tranny faggot 2

>>732252573
Ace Combat is literally getting a new game this year. Did tendies not watch the story trailer during the game awards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeKsDHjPJiw

>>732256678
The only reason GameCube didn’t sell that well was the overwhelming popularity of the PS2 around the world as the standardized game console. When people in this thread call it a brown console they are not kidding. Ask any 3rd worlder at the time what video game system they could get their hands on, of course they’re going with the console that had GTA, FIFA and a DVD player instead of the console that had RE4 and Melee

>>732256939
If you weren't brown, you could afford both.

>>732235813
because gc sales were shit

>>732235957
tendies are still mad they lost a bunch of exclusives to playstation because of poor sales

>>732235813
That's the cope way of saying "gamecube has no gaems"

>>732235690
Actual answer: Almost all of the fantastic exclusive games for PS2 were ported to non-Sony hardware like PCs, so people could play them legit. The GameCube games are all firmly still in Nintendo's grips, and in a lot of cases never actually left the GameCube itself.

>>732256964
I’m white and had both. And I will say that the GameCube games I had stuck with me more than the PS2 games

>>732257074
I had both and enjoyed the libraries equally. Stop being a console warrior for once in your life.

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>>732252569
fuck you faggot
viewtiful joe and custom robo are fucking kino and the reason I like mecha and tokusatsu bullshit at all
you have no fucking taste and suck at video games
I spit on you

>>732256994
For a console that was like 1/7th of the install base of the PS2, RE4 and other exclusives sold quite well on the gamecube.

>>732256238
No I didn't

>>732257039
Even the GC version of RE4 is one of a kind, it's the hardest version of the game. All future versions are based on the shitty PS2 port aside from the visuals.

>>732235690
RE4 was a GameCube exclusive at first and you put it on the PS2 side. That game is a top 10 game ever and puts it neck and neck with the PS2 library alone

>>732252569
Today I learned that some retard on /v/ thinks Viewtiful Joe doesn’t hold up.

>>732257074
I think they're about even for me and not even in a ps2 has more to even it out against ngc's hilights I feel like both had equal amount of standouts.

I find it very unfortunate that people throw GTA around like it was always garbage slop.
GTA3, Vice City, and San Andreas were all excellent games and deserved their accolades. It’s not their fault Rockstar went down the tube

>>732257142
They are kino and same, they were formative for me as a kid. But they also very boring to play now!

>>732257369
One anon autistically listed most of the highly rated games on both systems. There was definitely a period of time where the libraries were highly competitive and the Gamecube even had an advantage with multiplats, but it ran out of gas down the stretch while the PS2 kept truckin

>>732236716
when I think of ps2 I think of jrpgs, hack n slash, and rythm games. kinda ironic you say gun games for ps2 when ngcs were better.

>>732257450
>Viewtiful Joe
>boring
You’re retarded anon

>>732235690
/v/ is a nintendie board

>>732235813
>shovelware
You're a retard. You missed out on gems because you don't know what 'shovelware' is.

>>732236776
>the Gamecube version of RE4 was better than PS2 version even though it had shitty balancing changes, no widescreen, a shitty nub for camera movement, worse atmosphere, less scary sound, and less content
Why are cubesnoys like this?

>>732237136
So many hidden gems that are still great to play. The ps2 was the last console that tried anything different, it had so many different games that were totally unique and amazing.

>>732257167
not well enough is the problem

>>732237357
>the ps2 lagged behind gc in performance
zoomer brainrot. Nobody gave a fuck about that, the games were just superior.

>>732235690
It is more powerful than the PS2 and has some banger games. However PS2 has way more banger games and you could hide cigs in the network module bay so PS2 always wins.

>>732252569
Pikmin 1, Pikmin 2, Animal Crossing, Super Monkey Ball, Zelda WW, Zelda TP, RE4, REmake, Paper Mario TTYD all hold up great.

But yeah PS2 wins due to sheer volume, it just had an insane breadth and variety

>>732257638
the original version was the gamecube version and the content added to the ps2 version was bad

>>732257685
Name three

>>732257796
Gamecube has shitty balancing that no future version/port ever used again. PS2 was the gold standard going forward, also the atmosphere and sound of PS2 version is way scarier especially on a CRT

>>732257638
PS2 version was by far the worst version of RE4 ever made outside of mobile. Get the fuck out of here, chump.

>>732257878
And yet it has higher critic scores, user scores, sold more, and formed the basis of every future port.

Cry more tendie

>>732254998
wait... onimusha 1 isnt above an 8?
>>732255393
didnt realize that nintendo had already given up by 2005, but theres also a lot of games that feel like they arent worth mentioning.

>>732257850
>>732257638
Actual revisionist history

>>732257850
No the gamecube version is the basis for all the ports. PS2 version has busted lighting and most if not all cutscenes are pre-rendered video files instead of playing in engine.
The Wii version of the game is wild because it's mostly like an enhanced version of the gamecube version, but since they added all the PS2 content into it, it means the new cutscenes for Ada are once again just video files and look noticeably worse than the rest of the game.

>>732257919
Water room. Bitch.

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PS2 is too powerful

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>>732257735
>z-zoomer bwain wot no cap fr fr we be bussin not like that!
Literally everybody older than me and obsessed with gaylo and MGS said and I quote "game cube is the weakest console" and yes, our subsequent arguments did clarify that they where specifically and only talking about the hardware.

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>>732257930
>wait... onimusha 1 isnt above an 8?
pic related
>didnt realize that nintendo had already given up by 2005, but theres also a lot of games that feel like they arent worth mentioning.
The scores are the scores. Be happy I filtered out the non-arcade sports games because those were consistently highly rated every single year.

>>732237735
>the bad tends to be what people remember
The PS2 library is so fucking big that when people mention the bad ones they are literally google searching them to make bullshit arguments. Those games didn't sell well. Nobody remembers them.

>>732257964
PS2 version has scarier and more atmospheric lighting. Gamecube has shitty balance changes never used in any other version. Not to mention you get two nice beefy analog sticks instead of controlling camera with a little wiggly nipple

>>732257698
When you look at the huge install base of the PS2, RE4 did terrible numbers on there too. It only sold 2.3 million while the GC version sold 1.6 with such a tiny install base.