Can you think of an original shitpost other than
>who are the ontological guys of this shit series?
How about you get some fucking literacy on your side, retard.

me

>>732238848
The entire weltanschauung

everyone
war turns everyone into fascists
the emperor of man knew this but gave in to his human pity and ended up in a hell of his own creation

>>732238848
Games Workshop

>>732238848
Nids, Their hivemind runs on pure hatred for everything else as stated in canon. Orks are the only good guys because all they want out of life is a fun fight.

>>732238848
can someone tell me why I should care about warhammer? I don't care for the aesthetic and none of the story appealed to me in the slightest but everybody treats it like its a gift from god.

>>732238848
No SoB romance no buy

>>732239321
no. it's okay to move on if something doesn't interest you

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Imperium

Warhammer suffers from the typical writing problem where people in power actually have good intentions (emperor), people are good actually (Eldar, Tau, human citizens etc) and that everyone who's actually evil is in the opaque middle management (corrupted nobles etc etc)

Basically it's for midwits

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>>732238848
xD

>>732238848
Chaos

>>732239561
but people keep stopping whatever franchise I like to work on a warhammer game instead. the next pathfinder game is going to take forever because of warhammer crpgs.

>>732238848
my peenis weenis of course haha

>>732239862
A > C > B

the C'tan

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>>732238848
HAG SoB ROMANCE!!!!

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>>732238848
The ones that paint their marines in blue white and pink or rainbow.

>>732240463
oh ho ho ho

>>732238848
The baddest? Probably the Dark Eldar, then probably Chaos.

>>732238848
Games Workshop

>>732238848

Russians

Off market recasters and 3d printers.

>>732240595
They kind of were before the necrons weaponized them. Before getting shoved into their new bodies they were just sentient energy clouds floating around eating star farts. They just kind of did their own thing, not bothering anybody, and would have continued to do so had the necrons not shown them that souls taste better than solar plasma.

>>732238996
fpbp
/thread

>>732244907
Nah, Vostroyans and Valhallans are good boys. Best dressed guard regiments too.

Chaos is evil by definition. Everyone else is situationally evil

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>>732238848
The IRL players for being so annoying.

>>732239184
>of his own creation
I mean the hell was already there to begin with let's be real

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>doesn't want to be worshipped but dresses like this
wtf was his problem?

>>732239321
If you need another reason not to care, GW are a cartoonishly evil company. I don’t mean Rothschild evil, I mean children’s cartoon mustache twirling villain, like suing cosplayers for dressing as characters or going after YouTubers with a small number of followers for daring make fan animations. They also hate their old fans because they are too difficult to please and they’re trying to fuck with the lore to make it more palatable to the mythical modern audience and their wet dream is a Netflix deal

GW inadvertently created the most aggressively right wing piece of media in history and have spent the last 10 years trying to apologize for it without ostracizing the fans.

>>732248491
When have they sued cosplayers?

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Chaos and xenos

>>732238848
The tau

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KILL ALL XENOS

>>732248721
I honestly think they only pull the Warhammer is satire card whenever they get into hot water publicly when a chud fan goes too far in real life

>>732248721
It's not even right wing, it's just pro-human. Retards who say the Imperium are the bad guys are mentally ill and self destructive.

>>732238848
Well no one is morally good in 40k. However. As a human, you should side with humanity. Particularly the common grunts.

>>732248885
looks like it's drawn by a chud

>>732249452
Pre heresy lore is basically
>colonist finds a new world
>drops an ambassador
>”hello, ruler of this strange land. Join the empire or die”
>genocide millions if they dare refuse to join an organization that claims to be a galactic empire that they didn’t even know existed a week ago
I don’t see how that’s human at all

>>732249418
Because they do they basically want the imperium being poster boy good guys but get embarrassed when it just attracts grifters and chuds. They are a public company and your fandom being right wingers is not advertising friendly

>>732238848
It's gay shit like "the real enemy is within us" since humanity has all these bad desires/inclinations they are manifested in the warp daemons they fight.

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>>732249597
The Imperium did that and it still can barely fight back all the bullshit in the galaxy trying to genocide all humans. Imagine how fucked things would be if the Imperium cucked out and didn't try to unify humanity under a single banner. Flimsy alliances and pinky promises are not going to fucking cut it when shit hits the fan.
You are advocating for the dividing and conquering of humanity.

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>>732239184
>makes a deal with the Chaos gods in his bid to uplift humanity
>starts a project to move Terra into the Webway because it's inaccessible to Chaos
>Magnus trying to warn Big E about Horus going Heretical ends up fucking up Terra's Webway Gate
>refuses to let Eldar or Drukhari into the throne room to fix the gate
What steps could the Emperor have taken to avert these issues?

>>732248721
It’s a mess of 40K used to be more tongue in cheek, but all the clueless apparently leftist authors all accidentally just write a bunch of lore and stories justifying the imperiums actions with slight “oooooo yeah a million people had their toes tortured to make a single primaris marine” but it was needed

>>732238848
It takes place in the far future of our universe, so it's still jews

>>732249597
Sometimes the Night Lords would show up and skin your planet's president's entire family on live television.
Which is better than btfoing the planet's military if you think about it.

>>732249597
Nigel.
Please for god's sake read a history book.
That is how it's gone every single time.

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>One faction is pic related
>The other is slightly problematic

>>732249597
Showing up to a strange new land and making threats of "submit or die" is the full human experience actually.

>>732248721
I honestly don’t know how they do it that tread the line between chud appeasement and leftie lore rape

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>>732248286
>doesn't want to be raped and yet dresses like this

>>732250347
The ziggers who infest these 40K threads gonna be mad

>>732238848
Tyranids
Drukhari/Aeldari
Necrons

>>732238848
to understand warhammer you first need to understand it from the perspective that its a table top war game

>>732248721
>>732249452
>muh sides
post your fucking models

>>732249729
Beat the shit out of Magnus right away instead of trusting him to listen when the Emperor told him, "Don't fucking trust anything you talk to in the Warp, and don't fucking contact me through the Warp."

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The Imperium actually did try the whole gay Star Trek Federation thing and what happened instead is that the xenos went back on their agreements to invade and enslave human worlds during the Age of Strife.

>>732238848
40k is about having fun. I imagine Orks and Dark Eldar seem to be having the most fun. So they must be the good guys.

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>>732250894
just say you want to die and take everyone down with you, you suicidal freak

>>732249720
>believing the emperor
The same retard who created a super mutant army with a 50% desertion rate who would go on to become the biggest threat to the imperium.

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>>732250894
This nigga always asks this and never posts his

>>732238848
Obviously Chaos. Everyone else is just trying to survive in their own way in this dangerous universe.

>>732251193
There is no reality where purposefully fragmenting your team makes you stronger. Breaking the Imperium up into thousands of different warring powers just makes it much, much easier for hostile external forces to kill you and your species. Retard.

>>732251256
Pretty sure the post models trannies always do it to attempt to dox you through exif data

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>>732251256
Oh and custodes are fucking male and will always be male. Go cry about satire on reddit you fucking faggots you’ll ruin this franchise then move on you disgusting commie Reddit freaks

>>732251509
>>732251256
Holy truth nvke /tg/ troons destroyed

>>732238848
There can be no good guys as long as Chaos exists and is actively fucking with everyone's desire/emotion

>>732251509
>>732251256
Whenever a chud posts models they either move goal posts or cry more it’s not worth it

>>732251509
Based

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>>732251840
shouldn't you be outside fighting the ebul nazis?

>>732251509
Holy based

>>732251393
Doesn't four chins scrub the exif when you post?

>>732251256
>>732251509
Shitty small Custode models kek

>>732251329
It wasn't a guaranteed exitinction for humanity before big E showed up, or at the very least we didn't know for sure. Now though with his death and shitty empire, We got exactly what you described, just not done on purpose.

>>732252407
>dude never team up just let hostile aliens and demons pick you off one by one xd
Loser behavior

We were already presented with "dude what if the Imperium was nice and friendly and open with the civilizations they encounter in the galaxy?"
It was called the Interex and they got immediately ass raped to death by the cold harsh realities of the Milky Way.

>>732252927
also they were nurglefags

>>732252981
>>732252927
No they weren’t…the interex also had an idea of what chaos was and were destroyed by retarded imperials they were genuinely well meaning

>>732252927
The interex literally rivaled the imperium and had ways to stop chaos but Erebus+horus put a stop to it

>>732253043
>be genuinely well meaning
>die

>>732253043
>>732253093
tell me what the anathame is and why the interex had it

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>>732251509
Custodes don't exist and Dreadnoughts are robots piloted by functional living people, not shitty walking coffins. Go cry about satire on reddit you fucking faggots you’ll ruin this franchise then move on you disgusting commie Reddit freaks

>>732251393
Nah, they sic their weaponised autists on them to sort through pictures of models and find paint matches and Dox that way.
It's best to simply tell them they'll never be a woman and move on. They'll have hung themselves before they can annoy too many.

>>732252927
>the cold harsh realities of the Milky Way.
You mean the Imperium. Horus and his legion wiped them out after Erebus stole their shit to tip Horus towards chaos.
You say "da cold realitis of spess" as if the orcs, eldar, and all the other sentient races gangbanged them when it's just the imperium again, like always.

>>732254785
why did they have an artifact that chaos wanted?

>>732253168
>tell me what the anathame is
A Kinebrach (another race of hyper-intelligent monkey aliens like the Jokaero) weapon.
>and why the interex had it
Because they're allied with the Kinebrach.

The loathsome Xenos are the bad guys. What kind of heretical question is that?

>>732254879
so they were allied with chaos xenos

>>732254912
So was Erebus.

Who the fuck cares?

>>732254785
All that matters is survival and the Interex proved that letting your guard down is a fatal mistake in 40k. They were nice guys. And they are also all dead.

>>732254984
and now they are all dead
shouldn't have allied with chaos aligned xenos then

>>732254912
That's just how diplomatic the interex were dude. Notice how the Kinebrech didn't kill them, humans did.

>>732255095
The aliens were Chaos weapon manufacturers which made the Interex a target for the Chaos Gods. The Interex died off because they were dumb retards who underestimated Chaos.

>>732255176
They lived up until the 31st millenium with their way of life just fine in spite of orks, eldar, necrons, etc. already existing. It took meeting the imperium for that to end.
Fuck off with that nonsense. Their only fuck up was trusting the imperium due to being fellow humans. Literally white people that ran into hood niggers, but in space.

>>732255287
They are dead. The Imperium isn't. Cry more.

>>732255312
ok I will
;_;

>>732238848
The good guys are primarily the Empire/Humanity with the general "Order" factions making up tertiary protagonists (Eldar, Tau).

The main antagonist is Chaos, and then everyone else are just bad guys.

>>732255287
>Interex makes war with Chaos tainted Space Marines
>dies instantly
>Imperium makes war with Chaos tainted Space Marines and also literal daemons
>lives to suffer eternally for another day
Hippy space empires btfo

>>732255338
>and then everyone else are just bad guys.
Naw. The nids are an entirely neutral party. They just exist to eat and multiply. To call them evil would be like saying whales are evil for eating krill.

>>732255720
The Hive Mind has intelligence, it specifically hates the Blood Angels. Nids aren't just animalistic.

>>732255720
That isn't true at all. One can try to talk up the horrors of digestion, but whales just swallow mouthfuls of krill. Nids murder people horrifically and then drag their corpses to be melted down and turned into more nids. You're basically saying, like, Zombies aren't the 'bad guys' in a Zombie movie when they are obviously an antagonistic force to the good guys.
I get what you mean, but the obvious horror of the Nids makes them impossible to be seen as neutral. You can say they have no malice (even that is arguable with how they're depicted) but ultimately they are still bad for us.

So basically the Imperium is run by a bunch of bimbos

>>732255804
>Zombies aren't the 'bad guys' in a Zombie movie when they are obviously an antagonistic force to the good guys.
They're not. Day of the Dead shows us that the bad guys are fellow man. Zombies are just a thing that exists. They hit good and bad guys alike. Hell, even in Night of the Living Dead, aka the movie that gave America their raging hard on for zombie movies, Harry was the prime antagonist.

>>732255938
If only, at least then the women would be attractive.

>>732239184
>war turns everyone into fascists
retard, the only fascist faction are the tau

>the race-based caste system that uses pheromones to compel obedience is the good guy faction

>>732256570
Hot

>>732239734
>Post a traitor legion's infamous experiment
What did you mean by this?

>>732238848
Chaos and nids, simple as.

>>732257316
He just wanted an excuse to post porn.

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>>732255425
Dying from a quick bullet to the head is preferable to slowly bleeding out in a shit covered gutter from a gut shot. The interex being wiped out before things really got going was a mercy.

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>>732248961
>mfw Imperium even destroyed other human civilization who didn't want to join them during the Great Crusade
I'd like to say "Imperium, unlike the Tau, simply had the misfortune to have come across asshole aliens who wanted them dead", but Imperium are clearly the assholes in this case. If you didn't Big E's vision you were gone.

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>>732249729
>>Magnus trying to warn Big E about Horus going Heretical ends up fucking up Terra's Webway Gate
truly the emperor's brightest boy

>>732238848
Dark Eldar, which is why I play them, no retarded discussion of "oh nooo theyre misunderstood tragic heroes" nah nah, my DEldar are just moustache twirling evil cunts and I love it

>>732249729
>What steps could the Emperor have taken to avert these issues?
He could have told Magnus WHY he should not fuck around with the warp. And also could have given a warning not to listen to any voices from the warp because they are fucking chaos entities.
Everyone likes to blame Magnus for fucking up but the only thing he was told was "hey uhhh i see you are trying to gain mastery of the warp. dont do that. ok bye (fucks off immediately without explanation)"

>>732257552
Depending on what OP meant by “bad guy” (I.e. evil vs how much of a threat) I’d dispute the placement of Nids on your list. If we go by evil then they should probably go near the bottom. Horrifying though their methods may be, the nids are and everything they do are the result of a biological imperative from the hive mind: gather biomass. The sheer horror and pain they bring about isn’t really an active desire to inflict hurt for hurt’s sake, it’s simply an effective way of fulfilling that imperative. If we go by threat then I’d wager they’re about tied with chaos or edge chaos out ever so slightly. Mostly because of chaos being a bunch of self defeating fuckwits, but also because between the whole “what we see entering the galaxy at multiple points may just be scouts” thing and the fact that nids seem to be actively adapting to and creating counters for daemonic shit rather than just avoiding it due to a lack of biomass.

>>732257689
>If you didn't Big E's vision you were gone.
Only if you don’t have a massive mechanical set of hangers and enough fire power to make trying force very costly and time consuming like Mars did.

>>732238848
The writers and owners, who woked it up.

>>732239021
You monster.

>>732258221
The issue is Magnus, for all of his intelligence, has far too much fucking hubris. If he’d been sat down and warned properly he wouldn’t hear a warning to avoid meddling where he shouldn’t, he’d think he heard a warning that he just needs to be really careful while dabbling in soul destroying psychic phenomena.

>>732249452
>pro-human
>Destroys multiple futuristic human civilization and replaces it with feudalistic body horror dystopia

aside from Guilliman coming back and being like "holy fuck you are all retards why am I still alive", has the status quo of 40k ever changed

>>732258680
you disagreed with me so you're anti-human

>>732258680
>Humanity still exists but isn't living in a post scarcity utopia
>Must clearly be evil

Don't be retarded. That humanity has continued to exist into the 41st millennium means that the Imperium has been working in spite of its myriad of problems.

>40k is satire

what does this even really mean
like I get the main part of the setting is that a lot of the exaggerated things of sci fi tropes and shit but like there's clearly a lot of side stories and stuff that does take itself seriously and actually try to tell an interesting/compelling story
am i just not supposed to ever care even if i find a story interesting

>>732258891
its satire of satire

>>732258687
They made the necrons too strong and are now hinting that the silent king will ally with girlyman

They introduced a new jobber faction of necrons to serve as enemies lead by ammentar and nightbringer shards to be a punching bag instead

Girlyman also already allied with the eldar

>>732258760
His argument is that you can't call your government good if they demolish your white picket fence suburb and replace it with a drug infested favela, and he's not wrong.

>>732258959
It doesn't exactly make the Imperium the worst though when practically every one of the "order" factions of 40k are all totalitarian to varying degrees and how much they crush their citizens individual liberties and freedoms is really dependent on the time of day.

>>732258263
I don't know what he meant, but I defined it on how much unnecessary harm and death they cause upon non corrupting sentient races of the galaxy, not some sense of morality or the reasons behind their actions. By that definition the Deldar would be easily at the top because they're not driven by manipulation or corruption or animalistic instinct, but our of pure love for the game. Imperium after them, then Necrons, nids and orks would go on the amoral box.

>>732259015
>every one of the "order" factions of 40k are all totalitarian to varying degrees
That only applies to the Tau. The Eldar aren't totalitarian, their flaw that they have their heads up their ass in terms of self importance. They let worlds die because their vague ass scrying into the future decides it's necessary to secure some unclear victory.

>>732259015
The Imperium (at least pre Gorillaman) isn't an "order faction". And I don't mean it in the sense that there isn't some AoS Avengers united front or the occasional alliances in Fantasy, but in the sense that they want to exterminate everyone else, Chaos and order factions included. They're about as neutral as the Skaven or Nagash.
Or actually even less, because Nagash hard counters Chaos and a world where he wins is Chaos free, and the Skaven fuck over the big 4 constantly, meanwhile the IoM is extremely tsun for Chaos.

>>732259193
How much is it ever touched on that the Eldar used to have perfect foresight but now it's spotty as hell and in some cases is self-fulfilling but they are too proud and stuck in their ways to admit to themselves their previous ace-in-the-hole is now a massive fucking gamble?

>>732258891
the setting itself takes it seriously, (You) should not take it that seriously (but you should buy all the merch and models :^))

>>732259250
I genuinely don't think that's supposed to be a lore development, it's just standard Eldar humiliation rituals mandatory to sell books
>I predicted the future... but the future changed!!?! said distraught Farseer man at the sight of JOHN PROTAGIUS, Empire Man.

>>732259250
About as much as Orikhan predicted the fall of the Necrontyr and for this he was chucked into the robot factory like everyone else. Now he just goes around predicting whatever he feels like just to spite the old Lords and Ladies who refused to listen to him when it mattered. Ironically making him one of the most accurate future sight readers of the setting.

>>732259239
I'm a big fan of Skaven analogies because all the "human supremacist" fan arguments for why the Imperium is based and trad and moral can be flipped to apply to the Skaven. The surface is our birthright, man-thing.

>>732259598
nobody cares about fantasy though

>>732259239
>but in the sense that they want to exterminate everyone else
That's not necessarily true. Great Crusade humanity actually had an "approved xenos species" list. The problem with this is that
1) next to no xenos species ever proved peaceful enough to make it to that list and
2) the one species known to have actually been put on said list was better off not encountering the Imperium in the first place given what happened to them.

>>732259748
I care.

>>732259761
i doubt it

>>732238996
fpbp

>>732259598
(You) aren't a skaven. You can LARP as one but we all know you're a fat human behind a computer.

orkz iz best

>>732260295
If they are so good why does their name look like someone bowing?

>>732238848
PUNY HUMIES
ORCS ARE BADDEST AND THE MEANEST ORCS ORCS ORCS ORCS

Isn't Big E on the throne actually more powerful now than he ever was when he was actually alive? Sure he can't directly communicate and he is bound to the throne, but at the same time if he hypothetically got out of it, wouldn't most of humanity get fucked over, especially since the astronomicon is unable to be repaired?

>>732238848
imagine the smell inside her power armor

>>732261372
All the shit the Imperium does has either been in response to them getting fucked over for not doing it originally, or them being forced to do it due to the continuing escalation of the threats they face, or the gradual decay of a galaxy-wide system of government that's running on fumes and forgotten tech.

>>732261829
what do Kislevite women smell like

>horus heresy
>50+ books and 10 books for the endings and one aftermath

unholy niggersauce, is this just LN but british space fantasy?

>>732261829
Yes of course, next you'll bring up something like the servitors being needlessly cruel as if there isn't a reason for AI being considered heresy.

>>732260361
dat's everyone else bowing to orkz

>>732248961
elf stirrup feet sex

>>732258891
satire is almost never just a thing in itself. it's pretty much always couched in a story, and if the writer is any good then people are gonna like the story. satire's a flavor, not a meal.

>>732249597
Also the proceeds to exploit thwm to hell and back

>>732261249
The astronomican isn't a completely make or break issue. Humanity was using warp travel even before the great crusade and managed to find and settle worlds. Imperium Nihilus can't really make out the light of the astronomican thanks to the great rift but humans stuck there are still travelling via warp.
The bigger issue with the emperor getting up is Magnus' folly tearing wide open and potentially turning earth into an eye of terror.

>>732261854
musk

>>732261906
How do you explain the extinction of the Adarnians?

>>732261906
Servitors are unironically fine, most of the time, just aesthetically unpleasing. Most of them are either vat grown lobotomites or rapists and murderers.

>>732261906
>needlessly cruel as if there isn't a reason for AI being considered heresy
Nta but there really isn't. We have no true AI and yet we don't strap a half living corpse inside our tanks.

>>732250147
I wouldn't call "having to eat half your family during a famine to survive because some pencil pusher wrote a typo and your planet ended up not getting rations" slightly problematic

>>732250147
>imperium
>normal eldar
ikr

>>732238848
Games Workshop

>>732261854
ask felix

>>732238848
the lanky aliens walking around on stilts never did any harm

>>732263037
>Nta but there really isn't.
The Men of Iron fucked the Imperium and mankind much harder than any other before or since

>>732263037
>He doesn't know
Why even argue about things you're clueless about?

>>732257689
Horus wanted peace with the interex and interpreted the edict to kill all xenos as just a response to the majority of hostile aliens. The interex attacked first.

>>732248961
>BREED ALL XENOS
Fixed it for you

>>732249623
>They are a public company and your fandom being right wingers is not advertising friendly
Customers don't care. Customers are more disturbed by left wing ads. It's suits with their own political agendas who pretend otherwise.

>>732262567
Gigacope, the imperium have regularly servitored large amounts of general population for productivity and when the crime can be percieved insults to the machine god, being angry about your inhumane living conditions it is not ok.
Servitors are absolutely not mostly vat grown people and rapists/murderers.
>admech takes people fleeing chaos knvasion and servitors them to have more troops
Very human
>>732264415
But as it happens the fans arent deranged rightwingers, rightwingers just bitch and moan about franchises, media and hobbies they don't engage with not following their set of ideological schizo rules.

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>>732250894
these are my models
there are many like them but these ones are mine

>>732262343
>The astronomican isn't a completely make or break issue.
It used yo be much more of that than it is now (because of imperial bias). Yes short warp travels were possible given "stable" warp regions and short distance, see for example ultramar managing to be a pocket empire during the age of strife. But the great rift blocking the astronomicon should effectively cause mass death in huge parts of imperium nihilus simply by merit of a lot of planets just not getting resources they need in time. Thats not mentionen of course, the chaos invasion or other assorted threats like orks having it easier or the dak eldar having a field day.

>>732264584
>But as it happens the fans arent deranged rightwingers, rightwingers just bitch and moan about franchises, media and hobbies they don't engage with not following their set of ideological schizo rules.
Bruh. Your side lost. Give it up. It's okay to be wrong and lose. Just move one. Doubling down isn't gonna help you.

>>732264794
>or the dak eldar having a field day.
They're as affected by the great rift as humans are, because they're scared of Slaanesh finding them just as much as the craftworlders are.

>>732264584
>[] just bitch and moan about franchises, media and hobbies they don't engage with not following their set of ideological schizo rules.
What an atrocious level of projection.

>>732238848
AI

>>732240507
C > B > T

>>732264585
Yay!

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>>732238848
If you really want to get to the bottom of things, everything actually traces back to the Necrontyr not being content with being aids-cancer people, because of course a spacefaring, physics bending, millions of years old civilization could never hope of doing gene therapy we can already do to animals and plants, and starting a galactic genocide over it.

>>732240429
I hope they make it a Starfinder game just to spite you

The SJW parasites

>>732238848
Chaos.

Everyone else is just varying degrees of less bad, some more than others. Whether that makes them good guys is up to personal interpretation.

The difference between treachery and heresy is ignorance.

>>732268493
But a YouTube short told me the Imperium is just as bad if not worse than Chaos

>>732268696
Nobody said that, you're just shadowboxing a strawman. Aside from Chaos and deldar the Imperials are the most immoral and evil faction, animals notwithstanding, and that's the point.

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>>732238848
Ratfags

>>732264158
Everyone knows what the men of iron are, it's one of the many things poorly stolen from Dune then raped. Read that post again.
>not being able to use AI for whatever reason
>that means it's okay to use horrific flesh abominations made from peasants the authorities disliked because... they HAVE to do it to compete okay?
>We chose to fight everyone so we NEED infinite slavery
And Imperium policy is that it's "virtuous", not some cruel necessity, because they're a shithole.

>>732268786
>Nobody said that
This guy literally says that Imperium is just as bad as Chaos
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/h1kAMz53_wI

>>732251054
>jakshit
>incorrect statement based on memes
>/pol/shit
another graduate of the lore university of eceleb youtube

How are humans even able to breed in the conditions of the hive cities? The infant mortality would have to be catastrophic

>>732269262
>How are Indians even able to breed in the conditions of the Mumbai? The infant mortality would have to be catastrophic

>>732268786
>Aside from Chaos and deldar the Imperials are the most immoral and evil faction
But they're not.

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>>732269382
>>732269425
choose your favourite chapter

>>732265775
Would probably be more interesting than warhammer

>>732269262
They're very poor. There's nothing to do but fuck there.
>>732269181
He looks fat as fuck on the thumbnail so I won't be watching this, but if that's what he said he's wrong and dumb.
I swear people are either wrong or disingenuous when they say nonsense like "so John Rapist of the Khornate Legion is just as bad as John Guardsman right?? media literacy joke??" No shit of course not, that's why the Imperium is called the most "evil" of the order faction, it's their backwardness and dogma that let John Rapist recruit ignorant people. And chaos feeding aside, wanting to genocide everyone is immoral.
>>732269564
For sure.

>>732269382
I don't get the Word Bearers line.

>>732238848
the nortubel faction

>>732269262
The single most reliable predictor of birth rate isn't wealth, it's the proportion of women that attend higher education.
In your average hive city, that's about none below the hive spire. Hence the reproduction.

>>732238848
GW

>>732238848
Demons, obviously.

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Imperium; fascist, racist, religious, literally the worst faction
I look forward to when tau overtake gay marine fans and every game stars the real good guys

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>>732269382
>>732269425
>>732269474
Black Templars

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>>732270634
>Black Templars
Just look who is about to jump into Webway portal and live for themselves rather than die for the Emperor

>>732269474
Night Lords because they suck ass (but not in the EC way).

>>732270634
>>732270813
You got your background checks in place yet or what?

>>732269882
He makes a point in saying not everyone in the Imperium is evil but over all with all the fuck up shit they do to their own people and what other factions say about them. There is no real difference between them and chaos outside the sigil they're under

>>732238848
Imperium since it's just Space Skaven, but with gayer Ikit the Claw.

>>732249729
Other than the stuff with Magnus, why did Big E decide to yoink Angron off of Nuceria during his rebellion rather than try to help him out in his rebellion to probably gain some trust? Was it just because he was too autistically focused on planning his crusade to bother helping him out?

>>732271068
>There is no real difference between them and chaos outside the sigil they're under
Except for the part where the manifestation of murderfutarape wants to harvest all the souls so it can murderfutarape them for all of eternity.
Which is a pretty big thing to miss when constructing one's argument.

>>732238848
All men. Warhammer is now a FEMALE CENTERED fantasy, so expect a lot of BDSM, NTR and God Emperor transferring his essence into a new, female body, becoming the GODDESS EMPRESS OF WOMANKIND.
The last bastions of CHUDDOM are falling like card houses. It's time for you to check your privilege, atone for all your sins against women, including, but not limited to, looking at them when they don't want YOUR WORTHLESS ATTENTION.
Now, be a good boy and go sit in your corner in the basement, play our games and discover the world you've been desperately clinging to changing forever... and for the better. Become part of the change, you can still join the good side of History and support women in all their endeavors, just like your mother would support you - and if she didn't (that's what you think), it's only because you refused her, dashed all over her expectations and failed her as a son, as a man and as a human being.

>>732271248
>All men. Warhammer is now a FEMALE CENTERED fantasy,
I do find it funny how many of those shitty warhammmer 3DCG animated films are focused on a female lead.

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>Play Darktide
>Why does everyone keep talking about Cadia, what is a Cadia?
>Open the wiki and another 10 tabs about cyborg people who are machine worshippers which is heretical but its okay because they're not real machines but cyborgs now
>The fuck is a girlyman?
>Open the wiki again and another 11 tabs for the other Pimarchs
>40 tabs open on the wiki
Whats the best way to get into Warhammer 40K?

>>732271346
Like one and a half?
Btw, give one out for the Slavs still making proper 40k movies.

>>732272615
>Btw, give one out for the Slavs still making proper 40k movies.
Yeah but it's mostly on telegram channels like Para Pax

>>732272546
Listen up, Quaternary. You will start garnering surface level information from YouTube videos and Wiki Dumps LIKE YOU ARE ALREADY DOING.

Once you have a very very basic and surface level education on this shit show you can become a Tertiary and play the video games like Dawn of War, Dorktide, etc.

After you have a somewhat sub-surface level idea of what the fuck is going on consider reading a few books pertaining to events or chapters YOU are interested in. This is how you become a Secondary.

If you truly care enough beyond this point just buy some miniatures and paint them, attempt to play the Table Top with actual fucking rules and wa la, you're Pirmary. The rabbit hole isn't that deep, but there are millions of them.

>>732272546
Why do you ask now? Your already doing it

I don’t understand why people ask this, just read Lexicanum and click links to things you find cool. That’s all you do and you people are too lazy to do that now

>>732272546
Doing exactly that after playing Dawn of War, I imagine 90% of the over 30 secondaries did it this way.

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>Bad guys
(You)r dudes
>Good guys
My dudes

simple as

>>732272546
Dawn of War
Rogue Trader
It's probably better to experience the universe through the lens of people who live in it (ie knowing fuck all)
Especially since the lore just gets worse and worse as time goes by

>>732249729
>makes a deal with the Chaos gods in his bid to uplift humanity
What actually was the deal in exchange for?

>>732238848
>Who are the bad guys of warhammer 40k?libtard writers that think zim/zir mechanicus pronouns are cool or that one retard that likes writing books about /hisguys/ dunking on the most recent faction to beat him on table top

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The only smart primarch

>>732272659
>>732272615
I liked that Dark Angels movie. You could tell it was made by a few guys in their spare time with how clunky it was but aside from the "sovl" and overly info dumping during first 15 minutes it was breddy gud.
Also the short one with the Deldar.

>>732272952
>books about /hisguys/ dunking on the most recent faction to beat him on table top
Let's be real, that is petty but also funny

>>732272971
I felt like this shitty Mongol was the only one given justice, like he’s somehow the smart one

>>732273231
bro just wants to go fast, so fast that not even chaos can catch him. For the Emperor, I guess.

Imperium. thought that was obvious

>>732273231
The author who wrote him really liked him and was a good writer

>>732273348
>Guy goes fast with his motorcycles does these raiding tactics
>That's it?!
>Well uh... he can also move at literal lightning speed during melee combat because fas is his thing you know?
Sometimes less is more

>>732238848
You, the player :)

>>732238848
Drukhari and Chaos are Top 2 unquestionably morally evil.
If you also consider inherently destructive forces of nature as "bad guys", then Nids and Orks are next. (inb4 orks aren't nature because muh space frog intentional design)

>>732273720
>frog
Mycelium Colony*

>>732273783
He means the old ones

>>732238848
wh*te men

>>732273834
just like in real life

>>732273828
British Football Hooligans?

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I think the Warhammer fandom is cooked now

>>732273081
I wish i remember who it was.
I wanna say it was the howling griffins guy but I'm not sure.

Necron(tyr) and the Old Ones fucked the whole galaxy.
Every bullshit from the Warp being an evil hell dimension, Stargods, Orkz, Eldar, arguably Humanity having psychic powers, arguably the Tau, attracting the Nids, Slaanesh etc. etc. can all be linked back to them and their petty war.

>>732272971
>gets pegged by dark eldar

>>732273026
>Also the short one with the Deldar.
Which one is that? DE get fuck all content from GW, let alone fans who animate stuff.

>>732272546
You can watch these two videos for the whole story + the current situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDIm88df2Xo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnEakRlVFIg

>>732274631
They were just Egyptian homies who didn't du nuffin and wanted their eternal skin cancer solved and The Old Ones™ refused to help them
And its really The Deceiver who was the singular sole cause of everything getting fucked up

>>732273834
>>732274026
shitskin self-reply moment

>>732275012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcFcmPQklyY
This one

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>>732249597
>genocide millions if they dare refuse to join
Depends on who's talking to them, Corvus and Roboute always negotiated before fighting.

when will they make a game where you play as the good side (magnus)

>>732275012
All fan animations are just marinecwank I’m always the bad guy pointing this out

I think Astartes is honestly overrated

>>732258221
>He could have told Magnus WHY he should not fuck around with the warp
That's the problem, Magnus would only want to look into more if that was the case

>>732274302
So how many G1s will Haru win if Ciaphas Cain was her trainer, and how hard would his imposter syndrome strike him?

>>732240507
I'm a B man but I wish I were an A man

>>732275141
>get cancer
>bunch of gods turn up
>ask for medical aid
>"lol no get shrekt nerds"
>seethe uncontrollably for millennia
>start a war with said gods
>actually get rekt
>seethe some more
>use science mumbo jumbo and find an actual star vampire
>after said vampire finished sucking the soul out of the first to talk to it convince it to wage war for you, you just have to build it some skin
>NOW take the fight to the golds
>gods shit and piss themselves, even engineer a whole bunch of races to fight as foot soldiers
>no bueno, you and your vampire buddies win
>then everyone backstabs each other
>take a nap
WHO'S THE KING OF POP NOW BITCH!?

>>732275313
>Still no animated gory action comedy with Orks.
All we have is a Christmas song...

>>732274957
what's his deal with deldar exactly?

There is an ollllllllllllllllld animation of a warlock fighting an avatar of khaine in some sort of subway that was shockingly well animated for its age iirc. Really fluid combat.

>>732275695
He has a need for speed and nobody goes faster than spiky eldar.

I fucking love Warhammer lads, 40k is my favourite sc-fi world, and Fantasy my favourite fantasy world.

>>732275695
When they were fighting in Tera the dark eldar raided chogoris badly, he was just pissed and wanted payback

That’s literally it he went through a webway portal and goes MIA

>>732275761
so he races with them or some shit? isn't that super dangerous?

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>>732250217

>>732275254
Yeah, it depends who was in charge. The imperium was also willing to co-exist with other Xeno races as long as they were not hostel and would give in to Imperium rule. But mind you it depends on which primarch was doing the negotiating at the time. It seem like the emperor didn't give a fact about how his sons conquered as long as they did it, he even tolerated Logar's bullshit up until he became a issue

>>732275221
While the DE are jobbers as is tradition I do like the agility they are animated with in this.

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>>732250080
I love the Night(Edge) Lords, they're comically evil.

>>732238848
Gays Wokeslop

>>732275921
If only, I can just imagine deamons perturbed faces when Tau show up to a greater conflict, like who invited these nerds, they don't even have souls to break.

>>732275921
i am sorry but that is one uninspired take on chaos tau
it's just the same mechs but not as clean/sleek and some chaos ornaments like skulls and spikes
where is the bleeding machines and bio-mechanical abominations?

>>732275221
>dark eldar
>shruiken catapaults
i'm seething

>>732273530
Whoever wrote him loves SANIC and FLASH as the coolest thing thoughever.

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>we heard you don't like humanity son

>>732276497
valid, brown ppl are worthless

Space King.

>>732276640
It kinda stopped being funny after the first video but that's just me.

>>732276695
actually the other episodes are way funnier

>>732276640
Justice for Terry

I like 40k and its grimdark setting, but I fucking hate crossover art or fanfics that shove an Imperium-based character into a different universe that's more idealistic or hopeful, and the guy proceeds to shit on everything and tries to bring everyone down to his level.

>>732276182
They're not corrupted, it's just Water Caste efforts at diplomacy. Research has concluded skulls and spiky bits have market appeal with Warp denizens.

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xenos status?

>>732277210
lol that's just funny

>>732276407
>posts vatborn mutants
Yep that's the point.

>>732276497
Honestly I would rather the Imperium lose and fall to Chaos than become non-white
What is the point of humanity surviving if all the whites are dead?

>>732277210
It's a dumb injoke in my own obsessed head that I sometimes spout for laughs or "SHUT THE FUCK UP J***"s from my friends or just enjoy thinking about but one shitty Blueberry could solve 99% of all action and horror movies.

>>732277478
The Emperor is a Turkish mountain man and so are his finest bananas

>>732264263
>The interex attacked first.
It was literally just Erebus who betrayed everyone for no reasons

>>732264263
How the fuck do we still have Horus apologists in the year of our GW 2026

>>732259239
the solution : have the skavens in 4000
it's going to happen eventually

>>732277707
sanguinis and gayman are the only "good" primarchs, the rest are retards

>>732277950
ew

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>>732277885
They already exist and are arguably more numerous than some shit like the Tau, they even have similar properties, corrupting everything arround them to rot and have crude but effective technology that matches the orks in how it pisses the imperium offf.
Too bad GW sucks and won't give them the light of... eh dark of the trash heap.

>>732276497
kek

>>732272971
He inherited the largest share of the Emperor's self-awareness. He knew exactly who he was and what he wanted out of life, and that boiled down to runnng a kickass motorcycle club on the steppes.

>>732277996
girls

>>732238848
The IP holder

>>732272971
Just being an ethnicity might work for Imperial guard regiments but it falls flat for Space Marines. That's why Space Wolves are lame as well.

>>732239321
>It started as:
>A tabletop wargame
>With deliberately over-the-top satire
>Built to justify plastic soldiers fighting each other
>The lore came after, to decorate the battles—not to tell a coherent epic. That’s why it feels like a wiki exploded instead of a story unfolding.
>If you’re looking for “beginning middle end,” Warhammer will never give you that.
>Warhammer fans who say “well actually, it’s nuanced” are half-lying.
>The core premise is:
>The universe is so broken that every survival strategy becomes monstrous.
>That’s not morally complex storytelling in the usual sense. It’s cosmic nihilism with factions.
>Warhammer is not a story—it’s a setting generator.
>People like that You can zoom in on one planet, one war, one idiot noble Tell a small, self-contained story And ignore the rest of the universe entirely
>A lot of Warhammer fans don’t engage emotionally at all.
>They like:
>The fake history
>The fake bureaucracy
>The fake logistics
>The sense of an ancient, decaying empire
>It’s closer to Reading about the fall of Rome Or the Byzantine Empire Or WWI military obsession than it is to following characters you love.
>Some people see:
>Gothic cathedral spaceships
>Baroque armor
>Absurd religious authoritarianism
>and their brain goes: hell yeah.
>Warhammer is a universe where:
>Things will not get better
>Hope is irrational
>Progress is impossible
>For some people, that’s strangely comforting. There’s no pressure to believe in anything. You just watch the disaster.
>If you don’t find that cathartic, it just feels exhausting.
>Warhammer isn’t “objectively good storytelling.”
>It’s: A very specific flavor Built for a very specific audience That accidentally became enormous
>Liking it isn’t a mark of sophistication. Disliking it isn’t missing depth.
>It just means you want different things from fiction.

why don't the dark eldar have many units/figs? Int the books you keep hearing about their mad experiments and pain machines (not just pain engines) of horror yet they barely have shit

>>732278841
>Warhammer does have:
>the War in Heaven
>the birth of the Chaos Gods
>the fall of the Eldar
>the Great Crusade
>the Horus Heresy
>On paper, that looks like a clean cosmology.
>The problem is: nobody treats it like that, not even the franchise itself.
>Those events are not treated as:
>a foundation to build forward from
>a story to be understood
>a canon you’re meant to follow
>They’re treated like:
>religious myth
>half-forgotten propaganda
>vibes-only backstory
>In practice, Warhammer operates on:
>“Pick a faction. Pick a tone. Ignore the rest.”
>the setting rewards shallow faction identity more than narrative comprehension. The tabletop and merch ecosystems depend on that reduction.
>this feels like anti-storytelling. Because it kind of is.
>Warhammer is a license playground
>From a developer perspective, it’s absurdly attractive:
>You can tell any genre story
>CRPG (Rogue Trader)
>Horde shooter (Darktide)
>Power fantasy (Space Marine)
>Strategy, tactics, boomer shooter, horror
>You don’t need to advance canon
>You don’t need to worry about endings
>You can kill entire planets without consequences
>Warhammer keeps winning devs and audiences because it:
>doesn’t ask for hope
>doesn’t promise payoff
>doesn’t require understanding
>It’s a permanent apocalypse theme park.
>If you want:
>narrative progression
>ideological friction that matters
>characters whose choices change the world
>it’s reasonable to feel actively repelled by it.
>You don’t get:
>people worth rooting for long-term
>arcs that point toward improvement
>moral growth that matters
>You get:
>tragedy baked in
>inevitability fetishized
>“if only things were worse sooner” energy
>If you want meaning, you’re mostly asked to accept “this is tragic because it is big.”

>>732278854
What's that? You want more Space Marines you say? But of course!

>>732269004
why would skaven beget a rat god but ALL the fucking orks cant make gork and mork real?

>>732278854
They were a badly thought out faction that only got real fluff because phil kelly was set loose with no oversight and since then the rest of the team has been "errr, eldar....but evil right? Cool wrap it up lads".

>>732278893
>Star Wars, Halo, Mass Effect, Cyberpunk, even Starfinder all share a few things that Warhammer mostly refuses to give you:
>Clear POV characters you can emotionally track
>Ideologies in conflict, not just vibes colliding
>Change over time (empires rise/fall, tech advances, truths are revealed)
>Hope exists, even if it’s fragile or compromised
>Even Cyberpunk—bleak as hell—still believes choices matter. Fallout used to, until it fossilized itself into an aesthetic loop
>Among Warhammer adaptations, Rogue Trader is the least hostile to your tastes because:
>You’re not a Space Marine (thank god)
>You’re not an expendable nobody (Darktide)
>You operate adjacent to Imperial dogma, not inside it
>Diplomacy is possible (rare in 40K, but real here)
>Companions often question the setting with you, not at you
>It still doesn’t evolve the galaxy—but it lets your corner of it breathe.
>If any 40K game could work for you, this is the one.
>Eisenhorn (Dan Abnett)
>This is the gold standard “normal human POV” entry.
>Why it works better:
>One protagonist, followed over time
>Mystery / investigation structure
>Gradual moral corrosion instead of instant cartoon evil
>Less faction brainrot, more character focus
>The real reason devs keep choosing Warhammer
>It’s the anti-Mass Effect:
>No branching canon to respect
>No protagonist to honor
>No future to protect
>Developers can tell contained stories without stepping on sacred ground.
>That makes it irresistible—even if it’s narratively hollow for players like you.