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is there even any puzzlekino to look forward to this year? besides boring sokoban
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This was not a puzzle game.
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First 10 hours of the game are resplendent puzzler kino. Everything up to Room 46 is great, once you get past that and start to see the seems it starts to get shit.
>>732254546
Unironically the main problem with BP is that the puzzles were too hard and esoteric. If the codes were just hidden in random pictureframes you needed the magnifying glass for or on the backside of various statues or whatever it would be much easier and better game as you require less outside knowledge and trying to figure out the developer's mind.
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>>732253478
Theta And Paralldox On Worldlines
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>>732253478
i would like a puzzle game that is like blue prince but actually a puzzle game not a rouge like.
not a baba is you clone ether
i guess i would like a real detective puzzle adventure game (not point and click, not a VN)
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>>732256673
In my opinion the biggest issue with Blue Prince is that the main room drafting and resource management gameplay loses its luster long before you're done with the actual puzzles. By mid-endgame you have stacked so many permanent upgrades and know how the main mechanics work that the actual game part becomes trivial and starts feeling like a padding time waster, especially when trying out if your new crazy puzzle solution idea works, or to visit some harder to reach areas again to check if you've missed anything, can take ages to set up. In over 100 hours I managed to figure things out on my own until thecastle cipher input, ended up finally checking for hints online, and at that point decided I was not in the mood for combing through the entire estate for the umpteenth time and go throughliteral half an hour of waitingevery time I wanted to try out a new solution.
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>>732257972
True
The format of the game is actually really bad for how deep the puzzles are
Like, in a metroidvania, if you figure out the trick to some secret you just walk there. But in Blue Prince, you find out
>oh shit, if I put thefurnace roomby thefreezer room, then I'll unlock some stuff
and then you never draft the correct rooms to do it in the next 10 hours of playing
I feel like they should have weighted things behind the scenes to make it so it's easier to draft the things you need to solve unsolved puzzles, instead of having it be literally completely random whether or not you can even make any progress in a run
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>>732256673
Because when you start the game there are tons of puzzles and new rooms, and eventually you run down to two possible leads and 15 fake ones. Also for me there was never a problem to set up a proper house and craft some necessary tool. The big sin is the lack of ending. No closure at all. The more you play the less fun you get.
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>>732253478
It's kino until you've opened all 8 sanctum doors.
At that point, the ONLY lead you have is A New Clue. The tunnel isn't really a puzzle, it's just a grind. The atelier is extremely esoteric to find.
I had fun doing Day1, Dare Mode and Curse Mode, but none of them require any puzzle solving.
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>>732262023
That's actually extremely easy once you know that drawing a room along an active power connection GREATLY increases the chances of continuing the connection.
In my Dare Mode run I powered the Lab and the Pump room extemely early because I knew this. In my original run I was massively frustrated trying to power the Lab because I THOUGHT it was completely random when it wasn't.
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>>732257972
Well, the tedious and monotonous gameplay is the point of the game and the developer doesn't see it as an issue. There used to be a clever way to get infinite steps for a day but the dev nerfed it specifically.
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>>732256673
>BP is that the puzzles were too hard and esoteric
Only the last few were even vaguely esoteric, and the majority of that was purely because trying things like castling was incredibly tedious.
The problem with BP is that the puzzles don't reward you with anything. You miss nothing if you stop at room 46, everything past that point is largely just a waste of time as you expect to find some kind of cool justification and instead get treated to garbage.