>>737079813
>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??
Because it gets replies.

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I'm not supporting your communist agenda

>>737079813
Like 3 trolls from discord stir shit against it, LITERALLY everyone else is in favour.

>>737079813
>why does /v/ hate SKG
muttoid puritan brainwashing

>>737079813
Because most adults understand that things have an end and can deal with that fact.

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I dropped my support it after the twitter language merge. All the Japanese developers brought up some real valid counterpoints and you'd have to be really empty headed to still support it after reading their side.

Kinda wish I could take back all the shilling I did for it, but thankfully it looks like it's going nowhere.

/v/ is overrun with tendies and Nintendo is against SKG, you do the math

>>737079813
keep killing games

>>737080247
>All the Japanese developers brought up some real valid counterpoints
Such as...?

>>737079813
>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??
because there were lots of threads about it. happens to literally everything on this board

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See that button right there on the main menu? AAA game developers claim that button will D E S T R O Y gaming industry.

>>737079813
tendies
its always fucking tendies

Contrarianism.

>>737079884
If you were actually anti communism then you'd be against intellectual property rights (which is a state enforced monopoly) and without IP laws there wouldn't be an issue for SKG to solve

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>>737080906
>intellectual property rights (which is a state enforced monopoly)

>>737079813
we hate the eussr
we hate governments overstepping their bounds into videogames
we hate nannystate shit
we hate retarded faggots making retarded faggot gay nigger demands that are completely infeasible to fulfill in reality
we hate coomies and communism
simple as

>>737081047
Anon, that is precisely what intellectual property rights are

It is the government giving the author of a work or an idea a monopoly on how it can be reproduced or used

>>737079813
Being contrarian is easy (you)s.

>>737081225
>communism
see
>>737080906

>completely infeasible to fulfill in reality
Tons of games had LAN multiplayer and private servers for decades. In fact, it is EASIER to have LAN multiplayer then to have corporate online only servers.

>>737081225
>we hate retarded faggots making retarded faggot gay nigger demands that are completely infeasible to fulfill in reality

This is completely infeasible to fulfill?
>>737080716

>>737080906
>t. communist faggot
shalom, hymie!

>>737081238
>It is the government giving the author of a work or an idea ownership of that work or idea
You're just using one word incorrectly, that's all.

>>737081319
that isn't what you're demanding, communist kike.

I love advocating against my own rights.

>>737081385
Yes it is retard

>>737080906
IP is gay but it's a fight that's even less likely to bear fruit.

>>737081428
no, it isn't, retarded kike

>>737081452
Then what is it retard?

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/v/ is actually stupid enough to fall for bait like this

it's stupid because no one is forcing people to play live service slop or to give money to them. you choose to support that kind of game knowing they could shut down the servers at any time. thinking that you can force game companies to support their games forever is stupid, so realistically all it would do is ban that type of game. at the end of the day skg is just crying to the government to control the behavior of everyone because the minority of people are unhappy that others are doing things they don't like.

>>737081612
>thinking that you can force game companies to support their games forever

that's not what SKG is about retard

>>737081612
You're being outvoted by retards. You will always lose in the money as votes department.

>>737079813
v are american, that all you need to know

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Still not supporting SKG

>>737081659
explain what it's about then if it isn't using the government to ban things you don't like

>>737079813
>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??
Enabling companies to clean up their image to retard consumers instead of let such consomer stop being retarded or deservingly culled; none of those companies need help to improve but to go down in flames. Also

>involving goverment to fix things
>it's actually children's electronic toys of all things
Yeah, that surely will end up well

I experience EOS when gacha games close down.
The Japanese are thoroughbred cucks that tell themselves "This was a temporary experience. It is what it is." I am not like that.
Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, as a whole, which means both the original game and the tactics prequel War of the Visions, is completely wiped from the internet. 12 years. All gone. And when asking the director/produce of the series, Hiroki, if there would be an offline version of the game, he said there were no plans, because that's just how the Japanese operate.
Look into the Nier Reincarnation private server situation if you want to experience culture shock of a nation of people who don't have a single shred of preservation instinct at all

wanting the government to regulate more things is absolutely retarded, games shouldn't be "killed" but the government shouldn't be involved at all. people should stop supporting developers that "kill" games.

>>737081864
Not. My. Problem.

>>737081827
It's about letting people host their own servers after the company stops supporting it you know like what could do before
>>737080716

>>737081945
>it's about funneling money to nitrado
I'm sure they're stoked

>>737081827
nta but it actually forces devs to provide an offline version/capability

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>>737081925
Shitpost, but still
Imagine being a Nier fan and being told by the Japanese "If you want to experience Reincarnation, ask Square Enix (lol) to bring back the game (lmao), or hope someone put all the story onto Youtube. Otherwise, you're shit out of luck!"
Some might even say, "You should've spent money on the game to keep it alive," which is a sign of completely and total ignorance, because Square Enix killed the game because it wasn't making ENOUGH money.

>>737081921
>stop supporting monopolistic developers who absorb game studios and enshitify everything
Ignore that, boycotting never works because the majority is always fucking retarded

>>737079813
It's communist shit

>>737080906
SKG is communism because it undermines the IP owner’s sovereign right of ownership to revoke licenses at will.

>>737079813
>7th thread today
A reminder that industry plants are pushing the SKG threads here because they are farming reactions. Even if it isn't this OP specifically.
Most of /v/ doesn't give a shit because we live in America, EU peeps have already done their part. The only people bitching and moaning about it actively are Plants, Trolls or cry babies.

Letting users host their own games/software on their own machines was a mistake and historical quirk of the 80s and 90s. The simple fact is that games as a service/software as a service is the correct business model for the industry to function, and is what average consumers actually want. Once Gen-Xers like Ross die out, SKG will be immediately forgotten and history will progress in its natural direction.

>>737081921
Yeah I also think companies should be allowed to dump toxic waste into rivers if it's more profitable than not doing that.

>>737081945
that's still using the government to force companies to do shit. if you actually want to preserve dead games you should be petitioning the government to take away companies' ability to c&d private servers.

>>737081383
Which word, monopoly?

How is it not a monopoly? It gives them the sole control and rights over a work

>>737082381
>IP owner’s sovereign right of ownership
That's commie shit in the first place

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mrw

>>737082319
see
>>737080906

>>737081331
Provide an actual counterargument.

>>737082381
As the post you're replying to explain, IP rights are communist to begin with

>>737079813
>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??
Because the whole site is run by feds and corpos

>>737082634
>It gives them the sole control and rights over a work
That's just called ownership. A monopoly would be if they had sole control to own all ideas. And since other people are allowed to create and own their own ideas it's not a monopoly on ideas.

Hope this helps.

>>737082659
>>737082703
Intellectual property is a form of capital. Communism is against private ownership of capital. Protecting a private owner’s rights to own their intellectual property is capitalist.

>>737082751
Creative works are not interchangeable, if you own the rights to a work, you have a monopoly on it. Other works and other ideas are not competition.

An actual competitive market would be multiple publishers and authors using the same IP or serving the same product, and compete via adding additional content or with their storefront.

>>737080247
I know youre doing a 0/10 bait but nips are corporate cock sucking retards when it comes to access and come from a culture of submission and taking pride in slavery like much of Asia.
They look based because they took the best parts of western culture, founded by better values, during the freeest era in history that was the late 20th century, but they when their corporations go full p.c. they will legit die for their corpos right to replace every nip anime with a p.c. censored version of it that erases them. They literally think the femcels asking them to censor must be "those fans who are against disney modern movies" because the retards conflate any anti-corporation complaint as being inherently negative, very basic consumer rights or not ruining your life for your boss are just alien for the cucked nip, even if other places like sk gooks have it even worse
They think if any corporation owns or buys something it automatically means they can do anything without even basic feedback and things like the value of "libraries" and "archive" are alien to them too, if someone rich says they should burn all their libraries and archives they'll talk about how manly and decisive whoever it is even if its a fat woman.
If al their water gets denies to them by a corporation, theyll proudly die of thirst while being angry at any rogue nip that tries to fight for his family right to drink water as a "trouble maker"

>>737082880
"intellectual property" is not real property and it's owner/creator does not have an innate right to it, see >>737079569

>/v/ thinks collective bargaining is communism
>/v/ thinks intellectual property is free market capitalism
You guys are goycattle to the max

>>737082967
>They look based
O_o

holy shit these retards aren't even worth engaging with. it's called right to exclude btw

If the slogan had been "Let's
save the games" instead of "Stop killing the games," this movement would have received much greater support here.

>>737083151
Imagine if the slogan was "let's destroy video games"

>>737082930
>if you own the rights to a work, you have a monopoly on it
No, you have sole control over it. That's a different thing from having a monopoly. You're just going to have to concede this point to me because you're wrong, and I'm right.

>An actual competitive market would be multiple publishers and authors using the same IP or serving the same product, and compete via adding additional content or with their storefront.
We have actual compition right now without that being true. This is also a fact, and you'll have to concede this point to me as well.

You need to read more books and do more research on this topic. Also, I'm done replying to you now. You've lost the privilege to speak with me.

>>737083070
Isnt right to exlude meant for property or something

>>737082967
This
I think other places like chinks and korea are even worse, but japanese are incredibly cucked when it comes to bowing their asses to any authority. You can see it in their anime even, in jigoku shojo they sent a bunch of people to hell because they complained about a politician's shitty decision getting their family members killed, and the show treated that as based and the politician as some poor noble king thats trying his best.
Theyre gay enough for authority to still believe in noblese oblige.
They didnt went through what europe did of purging many of their faggiest nobles, and thus ANY protest, even someone just asking for preservation like here, or not being stolen by a gacha with gamed odds is seen as evil
If they get someone going "you vill eat the bugs" to them, they wont protest, they will eat the bugs and get mad at the ameriburgers and yuros who dared not comply

>>737083151
>>737083205
Killing/destroying old games is good. It’s a form of Darwinism that ensures the games industry as a whole stays healthy. Being pro-killing games is being pro-games.

>>737083205
That's just EA's company motto.

>>737083286
and that includes property of the intellectual variety

>>737083371
I thought EA motto was "bring studios in the back alley and brutally rape them"

>>737079884
>Ohmygod wanting to play old videogames you already paid for is literal communism my country is ruined forever aieeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Please kill yourself

>>737083681
Kill me yourself, communist.

some dead french guy said "people have the government they deserve" but I think it also applies to consumers. if all of the products you can buy are garbage it's because people keep paying money for garbage.

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The communist cries as he strikes down hard working men

>>737081491
it's not what you're demanding

>>737082036
which violates every singoe facet of international copyright law and makes it so that publishers have no reason to continue operating in the eurozone, thanks for (not) playing!

>>737082381
it's communism because it's LITERALLY communism, that's correct, thanks for finally admitting it

>>737082703
provide an actual argument to counter first

>>737082967
>hurr durr muh bait
retarded wall of text nignored and nigoodbye'd, nigger

>>737083065
>>/v/ thinks collective bargaining is communism
it is
>>/v/ thinks intellectual property is free market capitalism
it is
get fucked, commie kike

>>737083774
Nah that would be providing a service that ultimately makes society a better place, which is too communist by your standards retard.

>>737083205
that's literally what skg is in reality though, the complete and total destruction of all games (in the eurozone)

>>737079813
Head of the movement is woke

>>737084603
Sounds great, where do I sign?

>yuropoors are ssi cucked they don't recognise communism when they see it
https://youtu.be/ZEzO2KoJq2A?si=4S9oCT4Fycr40lJE

>>737083681
TOTAL COMMIE DEATH

>>737084671
by donating to mossman so he can keep going to europe and giving retarded speeches in europarliament in his disheveled wrinkled streetclotches

>>737082381
If I buy a game, why should the IP owner be able to take it away from me? Without payment, no less?

>>737084938
Sounds like a bargain. Who wants to pay for freshly pressed armani suits?

>>737084603
I really, really wish that were true.

>>737082967
Well they used to be professional protesters against US occupation and corporate worrking conditions back in the days but that's woke according to 4chan

>>737079813
Can you fix the cookies law first? I find the notifications annoying

>>737085101
Because they are the owner of the IP, and ownership includes the right of exclusion. Trying to undermine their ownership is communism.

>YOU WILL OWN NOTHING YOU PRODUCED
Literal communism

>>737085527
But I gave you my money. If you're stealing my product away from me, then give me a refund.

>>737085527
afaik, skg is not about devs forfeiting ownership of their ip

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>>737081864
The Nier Reincarnation situation was one of the biggest modern redpills about nips, not just about games but about their general lack of moral agency

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reminder that MMOs and other live-service games are tested locally and corpo bootlickers are full of shit

>>737085527
this is something skiggers will never be able to understand, since they are communist retarded niggers

>>737079813
/v/ is full of contrarian faggots

>>737085681
then you don't know the very first thing about skg

>>737085958
where does skg state that devs must forfeit their ips?

>>737086134
in the very first line

>>737085823
Well shit

>>737086134
If the IP owner loses their right to exclude, their ownership of the IP is lost.

>>737085823
The question is not over whether it is possible to make games run locally, the issue is that allowing players to run games locally undermines ownership.

>>737085527
>right to exclusion
this is the first I hear of this. care to quote some document that corroborates this?
copyright covers public performance, public display, reproduction, distribution, and derivatives >>737086301
copyright is not about ownership. works of authorship don't have owners, they have authors

>>737079813
>Games shouldn't be killed so nonchalantly
Games should definitely be killed.
The only people who get fucked by these GaaS and gachas dying are complete retards who deserve to get fucked, them getting fucked over by their corpó overlords is actually a net positive to the entire world so all things considered it's objectively a morally bad thing to support this movement at all.

>>737086301
>>737085914
>>737085527
You heard it here folks. Nintendo has officially lost the rights to the Mario IP because I played a romhack of Super Mario World 5 years ago. Now I own it. Anyone want to buy it from me?

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The yuropoor tendency to willingly lick boots must be studied
>Draconian laws banning social media
>Bottle caps
>Stop killing games
Etc. this is why socialism is so popular in their countries

>>737086587
>retarded skigger kike resorts to retarded strawmanning pilpul
predictably jewish

>>737086784
I undermined Nintendo's sole right to modify their IP. By your logic, they no longer own it. ;)

If you ever sell a video of you sucking cock, you own the rights of that movie. If someone buys you a copy, that person owns that copy.
If you ever decide stop being a faggot as if, lol you can't ask the guy who bought your movie to destroy his copy. just because you don't like cock anymore

>>737086924
>Yuropoor """logic"""
Is this why you're all atheists?

Is the hearing over? Are videogames saved?

I'm not against it, I just don't give a shit about prolonging live service garbage or the niggers who play it. More power to you if you force companies to be less jewish, I'm just bored of hearing about it.

>>737086924
Ackshually, I think when it comes to porn there may be some gray area when it comes to the rights of the "IP" owner. I know of at least a few camwhores who have tried to have any traces of their old content removed from free porn sites, and it seems like plenty of them are willing to comply.

I guess at that point it's at the discretion of the person who has the copy. Legally, there is probably nothing the camwhore can do about it.

This will turn into a nothingburger anyways. It's not as if companies will just accept it and not look into loopholes

>>737087214
I intended to make the example about books at first. The author of a book you own can't suddenly come into your library and burn your copy because he doesn't like what he wrote anymore. You are not the holder of the IP, but the book is yours. As long as you can read and the media is in condition, you should be able to enjoy it, regardless what the author says

>>737087283
Sure, but they won't be able to openly rob you either. That's basically the entire point of this.

>>737079813
>why does /v/ hate SKG
(You)farming

>>737079813
People that want it cannot be reasoned with.

>>737085716
For real. I knew they were bootlickers, but to be so beholden to "you're a thief, so nothing you say matters" is so funny

>>737085823
MMOs that function off of subscription aren't even covered by the initiative, but with any luck they will be changed too.

>>737083681
Just pirate it retard

>>737083312
And that's why the ones that stayed in the isles are dying out, while those who left to other countries are thriving. They know their homeland's rot is terminal, so they left so their children can rebuild one day, without crap like slave mentality and tatemae standing in the way.

Even Japan itself has a lot of people opposed to that bullshit. They just don't speak as often.

>>737079813
it's flawed but asking the gov to do something was a shitty last resort and even I dont know if that is the right choice.

But to answe your question: 4chan(nel) is astroturfed by Epstein-level elites, their rupee-paid shills, and actual bots. There might be some with reservations of the movement, but given recent events in the news, the open secret has been confirmed.

>>737079813
I do support the initiative. If I were to make a argument against it.

Things that require an active playerbase, is it even the same game if those players are gone?
An arena shooter you can replace with bots and local servers and get a approximal experience. But If I were to try to play a MMO with no players, you can't fill it with bots and get the same experience.

If we look at live service games that have been running for a longtime without version control the 3.0 version of the experience as superseded the experience of the 1.0 experience, It is functionally dead. its gone. If game ends at 5.0, which version of the game needs going to be saved? If I quit at 3.0 because of quality decline and only 5.0 gets saved. It is not even the version of the game I wanted to play because it hasn't been preserved anyways.

In world of finite resources it takes effort and energy to preserve things. We have to consider that sometimes they aren't worth preserving. And that effort should go towards the things that are.

>/v/ is one person

>>737084127
So you don't know then so shut the fuck up retard

Why do Yuropoors love to leech off successful people's labors like crabs in a bucket?

>>737087474
They used to not be able to, but thanks to ebooks, soon even book IP owners will be able to defend their property.

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It's over for Ubisoft. It's obviously going through.
You WILL release the server binaries.

>>737079813
The initiative is good, the EU is a dogshit jewish supranational entity and they will use this to fuck us over.

>>737079813
Because /v/ actually hates videogames. The thing is that /v/ people are the worst kind of trash this world ahs to offer. They don't play and talk about videogames because they like or respect the medium, they do it because there's nothing else going for them in their lives. They're all pathetic losers who don't know what else to do other than waste time.

So when there's a big cause to protect the medium, not even this one but any other one, they automatically feel repulsion. How dare people take the initiative to fight for something I believe is pure trash designed to waste time until I die???? How dare they take this shit seriously????

Add to that that people here are so fucking miserable the best joy they get in their lives is making other people mad, and you get the perfect storm.

>>737086878
you should learn formal logic first before you try to claim anything about logic, retard

>>737089938
retarded skigger

>>737090889
You still haven't told me what I'm apparently demanding

>>737089318
5.0 being preserved and accessible means modders can change the gameback to previous versions. The 32 vs 32 shooter will get a group schedule if people want to play it, and if you can't possibly get 64 players under any circumstance, at least you still own the game.

>>737090849
Formal logic is just brainlet math, Business major.

>>737079813
>le 4chanz is one person

>>737090849
Is there an error in my logic? Nintendo still retains the rights to their IP, despite me modifying it without their permission?

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>>737079813
If it hasn't been posted yet, SKG spoke in-front of the parliament.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSla5vfGi3A

>>737090552
The authoe entering my house and burning my copy would be burglary. Why would remote deleting an ebook of mine be different?

>>737079884
Spbp

>>737080891
NintenCHAD board

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Based

>>737079813
I support Intellectual Property rights.

>>737081225
This

Doesn't this exclude Chinese gacha games though? You don't pay an upfront cost to access the game, you only pay for the opportunity to gamble.

>>737085527
True

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Even if you don’t give a shit about games preservation, you should support it anyway solely to spite this asshole

>>737092140
damn he actually made it

>>737083286
IP is a form of property

>Hosting servers is literally communism! Government overreach! Slave mentality!

But letting gaming companies lock you out of shit you paid for is fine and not cattle behavior? Shills must be out in force, or tons of /v/ermin are queers that like sucking on shoe polish. If being able to host your own servers, which was the norm for PC till the 2010s, will somehow destroy these large companies, then fuck em they deserve it.

Im convinced this whole thing was a psyop to kill any remaining hope that the industry would be good again
Just so unbelievably grim seeing so many people argue against their own interests just out of sheer pathological contrarianism. Humanity deserves its fate, beyond video games, beyond anything really. People have completely given up to the point that they now argue FOR corporate interests
Im just so deeply deeply tired, of everything at this point

To be honest, it's hard to give a shit about an initiative that mainly just protects games that most people, including myself, couldn't be assed to buy/play in the first place. The majority of these games were commerical failures. They shut down because they were shit.

>>737081225
>we hate the eussr
The EU are a means to an end to achieve the goal of stopping games being made useless
>we hate governments overstepping their bounds into videogames
How are they overstepping their bounds exactly? Or are you a pure lolbert?
>we hate nannystate shit
Nothing to do with this. You’re spewing buzzwords out without knowing their meaning
>completely infeasible to fulfill in reality
So then why are you complaining about it? If it were this impossible thing to achieve wouldn’t you just allow it to run, knowing things wouldn’t happen? Seems like with the 1000000 signatures as well as the various advancements we’ve seen so far, things are happening
>we hate coomies and communism
Braindead American mindset detected. And you idiots wonder why the entire planet is pointing at your country and laughing

>>737091005
illiterate retarded skigger

>>737092072
>>737092202
>>737092292
Samefriend

>>737079884
Karl Marx would've been named in the Epstein leaks if he was alive recently.

>>737092358
don't buy gay nigger shit if you don't want the owners to one day exclude you from it, simple ass, commie nigger

>>737092381
yuropoor statist communism isn't in my interests, quite the contrary to them in plain fact

>>737092685
So is burgercuck corporatist cronyism

>>737092381
You'll survive.

>>737092637
>all publicity is good publicity
It really is just delusional boomers who refuse to admit that AAA was a mistake.

>>737092510
the ends don't justify the means
the eussr has no grounds in getting involved in the free market or videogames
the nannystate has literally EVERYTHING to do with what you gay communist kikeniggers want, trying to handwave shit away by buzzwording it with the "buzzword" buzzword isn't an argument
i'm the voice of reason
americans are smarter than your retarded yurocommie kike ass

>>737092790
triple gay was a mistake, that's correct, and it only exists because of retarded mouthbreathing niggers who buy gay nigger retarded shit in the first place, thanks for finally noticing, now you can stop with this dumb nigger skigger retardation already

>>737092685
>umm actually I want for jewish corporations fuck my asshole to own to libs
kwab

>>737092783
it's possible to be against both, brainlet-kun, try to strawman less

>you know we’d probably be fine if we were just given a readme doc with some instructions on how a game might be revived

And it’s dead. Bent the knee
Whole thing doesn’t make sense anyway
It was specifically for the crew only

>>737092893
tyoical dumb skigger nigger kike, kill yourself hooknose

>>737092869
Scam Citizen is going to be remembered as an indie game so no.

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Ross! Ross! Ross! Ross!

>>737079813

Imagine being a troll with enough mental deficiency to go against it

Go fuck yourself losers

>>737093020
who?

>>737079813
Nihilism. It's all the rage these days.

>>737093076
>durr everyone was always pro government regulation of videogames on /v/

>>737092637
Yeah I don't buy that shit because most multiplayer games now are shit. But I also don't suck corpo cock like you clearly do. The more shit this industry is allowed to get away with the worse it keeps getting. Things that were standard and expected in older games are now paid shit, or somehow impossible to implement. Also basic consumer protections aren't commie, retard.

>>737092807
You even type fatly

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>>737093098

>>737092559
Yes. Your point?

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>>737087046
They don't in one day go
>*bangs gavel* ORDER! ORDER!
>Alright, I've come to a conclusion... *music swells* Ross Dungeon, though we haven't seen eye to eye, you've convinced me, you have saved vidya!
>*everybody cheers, John Videogame is escorted in, kisses Ross*
There's like 15 months of bureaucracy to get through. But signs are good.

>>737092358
>But letting gaming companies lock you out of shit you paid for is fine
Companies own the intellectual property.

>>737092960
You're here advocating for the right of corporations to steal from you, because you think it's worse that those same corporations might come under new regulation. You are not against burgercuck corporatist cronyism.

>>737092557
The only retard here is you

>>737079884
Imagine still falling for 100+ year old propaganda when current day capitalism is making your life actively worse every single day and is in dire need of reform to reverse the ever increasing concentration of wealth of power in the hands of the few.
Especially when you look at China's explosive rise and a big factor of it being them not dragged down by corporate "shareholder value" culture.

Calling any attempt at Reform communism (even when those reforms try to just reestablished some pre-Reagan wra rules) is just how the rich and powerful try to kill anyone Reform attempt in the crib.

So how would this affect console only games? Would publishers all be legally obligated to release them on PC?

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>>737079813
so MODS are deleting our guy Ross' threads?
threads a bout VIDEO GAMES?

THEY DO IT FOR FREE

>>737081385
Stop lying, liar

>>737093436
First Sale Doctrine

Owning the IP does NOT automatically give the IP holder the right to stop you from consuming a copy you legally obtained

>>737093937
First sale doctrine can't actually function for purely digital purchases unless the game files had a kill switch that deleted themselves from your machine after you re-sell the license. This isn't actually possible to enforce because there would inevitably be ways for the end-user to disable that kill switch. In any case, there are a thousand reasons why we don't want this to be a thing.

>>737094026
Zenimax literally mandate you delete all files and destroy any physical copies in their EULA. So they kill your access to the game and then demand you destroy it yourself.

>>737094332
Anon, people ignore the EULA all the time. It's why digital piracy exists.

>>737085527
IP is fraud.

>>737094409
Cool, they're still demanding something explicitly illegal but aren't getting shit for it.

>>737079884
oh wow a capitalist bootlicker what a brave and rare viewpoint

>>737093749
>tranime poster suprised eceleb thread #7 got deleted

>>737094564
Thanks, I appreciate it

>>737079884
owning the things you buy is actually peak capitalism

>>737095242
You can't own a service

>>737079813
I hope you get everything you asked for and nothing you wanted

>>737093436
Which only exists as a mechanism of encouraging innovation, it is not an innate or unalieable right.

If IP laws are getting in the way of fostering innovation or consumer rights, it can and should be changed.

>>737095242
Slaves don't get to own anything

>>737095484
Who made games a service, was it the communist?

>>737095242
So why don't I own the copy of a game I bought?

>>737095936
Who made games a service?

>>737085234
The US occupation was the least of their punishments of preserving nationalism when they literally fucked up the Pacific trying to assert themselves as the master race of Asia.

>>737082601
video games and entertainment isn't the same as something that can kill you, you fucking retard

>>737096272
Are games services? They have licenses that apparently can expire.

>>737096481
Are game services?

>>737079813
Nintendo websites tend to be full of MAGAts. MAGAts tend to hate and vote against things that are against their best interests. /v/ is full of Nintendo fans.

>>737097083
Nintendo has the third most left-leaning fanbase for video game companies behind only Sony and ArcSys.

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>>737079813

All this is going to do is have companies tell you that you're buying a game that is going to shutdown eventually, and anyone with a brain knows what game they're getting into if it relies on servers. Nothing is going to happen unless if companies are no longer given that option to be compliant.

>>737093712
You should still be able to play console games offline once official servers go down. They could also use P2P matchmaking for certain games like they used to during 7th gen to continue online MP without having to host their own official servers.

They could even allow people to host their own servers for console games and give console players access to server browsers since PC crossplay is already a thing anyway.

>>737080247
Nips are mad, livid even, that someone brought back the NieR gacha game that went EoS, for free. Their opinions are invalid.

>>737093032
I think he actually looks better as a rat. Albeit it he somehow manages to look ugly as one, even to someone who likes the look of your average skaven

>>737079813
>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??
Because get a real problem.

>>737084603
Based Euchads can't stop winning.

>>737079813
/v/ doesnt. Corporations do.
You should've seen the pajeet screeching as the initiative got unanimous support from the members. It was awesome

>>737079813
>why does /v/ hate SKG??
Terminal Contrarianism

>>737087214
That's because of how copyright legislation works in the EU.
Authors and actors retain likeness rights and can legally demand removal of their likeness from a work for which they signed away their copyright rights, in sofar as their appearance in the work in some way harms their public reputation. Which for porn actors definitely is a thing.

>>737079813
Because I care about game preservation. And before you say
>pirate it
what I meant to say it is I want to be able to buy a game at any time. I know that's hard for older games, I get that, but in this day and age there is 0 logic in removing digital games from online stores. That's what I want.

SKG, on the other hand, does not fight for that. Its goal is to keep servers up for multiplayer games that have 5-6 active players.

>>737079813
Because europeon regulatory faggots are the root of all evil.
>BUT I WANNA HAVE GAMES FOREVER
So don't buy live service only games
>BUT I NEED THE GOVERNMENT TO WIPE MY ASS
Then kill yourself, homosexual kike nigger socialist eurojap faggot

>>737080906
>then you'd be against intellectual property rights
I am, in fact, with BARE MINIMUM laws against fraudulent representing oneself as the "original" or "official" version when they aren't (fraud is always unjust and should result in the immediate extermination of the jews). And you're probably right to say that would fix it. Kinda makes StOp KiLlInG gAmEs a gay communist regulation op anyone with a White IQ would naturally oppose.

>>737082381
Licenses are innately communism because they can only ultimately be given by a central authority government.

>>737085527
"""Intellectual""" """property""" is a communist concept in the first place. It absolutely no way are you or anyone else a legitimate owner of anything I think or copy, which deprives you of absolutely no rights whatsoever.

>>737082381
There is no such thing as Intellectual "Property"

>>737085593
No one in this thread is on the level to produce anything these talks are about anyway
If it benefits me the little man in particular that's what freedom is baby

>>737079884
Do NOT look up who enforces copyright infringement. You WILL shit bricks.

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>>737079884
You will have rights and you will be happy.
You are welcome, slave.

>>737089318
i often just like to boot up the shooting range. but the point is that whatever happens i can boot up the game and play.
unironically i wish i could boot up concord, read its retarded lore and see what the characters felt like to play. maybe there's a cool idea buried somewhere.
i think a few concord matches with anons would make for a fun afternoon.

>>737097845
how dare you play old abandoned games, goy. you should be pigging out on the next one you anti-semite!

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First SKG, now this. Why is Europe so anti-semitic?

>>737080247
>real valid counterpoints
may we see them?

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>>737093749
We need to make room in the catalog for another 20 Metro threads filled with /pol/trannies leaking pus from their amholes.

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>>737099241
>Its goal is to keep servers up for multiplayer games
mfw(my face when) I spread misinformation.

>>737103641
Every pro-SKG youtuber that was shilled on this albanian furry board was talking about mp servers. So...yeah.

>>737099241
One of the MEPs said he wants to establish a "Project Gutenberg" but for games. Games that are no longer sold would be kept as a public book, much like you can just read Moby-Dick online.

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>>737079813
I hate when immoral people are forced to act morally because I can't support moral people as easily.

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>>737081820

>>737079884
You're bending over to spread your asscheeks for jewish billionaire cum

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>>737079813
SKG doesn't matter though, the only games worth preserving have been preserved anyways, that is old emulated games/roms, GOG games etc. Why would you want to preserve mobile slop?

>>737102396
>not showing the cherry on top, which is the number of sigs gathered in 3 months

>>737079884
>the most liberal shit ever
>communist
Burgers lack any political knowledge

>>737103806
Read the FAQ instead of spreading misinfo.

>>737084709
>bet it's going to be about the UK
>it's about the UK's healthcare
UK fucking sucks at everything and anything it does. Meanwhile the rest of Europe has a functional system because they're not cousin fucking inbreeds.

>>737105076
It takes money from slop developers and makes them think about not making it in the first place, which is good.

>>737079884
>communism is when you ask the seller to uphold his half of the contract

>>737105419
You commie!

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>>737105493
>You commie

>>737102396
>>737105085
>france 745%
>spain 325%
>ireland 300%
>belgium 218%
>netherlands 201%
>finland 193%
>denmark 188%
>sweden 143%
>poland 123%
>portugal 114%
current based country rankings in the EU

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>>737079813
>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??
Americans.

>>737102396
How is being against an ethnic supremacist state killing the natives anti-semitic? Would you call someone who's against fascism anti-christian? The zionist mind cooks the most bizzare things.

>>737106221
Did Chet ever explain in greater detail why he thinks SKG sucks?

>>737096953
>>737079884
Kill yourself retarded fuck i own the files and back there was called physical media we owned shit till you fucktards became fat and lazyfucks and enabled companies like ea, blizzard and bethesda to put microtransaction and remove physical media entirely and even with fewer physical media that left some of them fucking tell you in the box that the service will expire because even despite the fact it's physical it still requires you to connect to their servers for the gay ass microservices that have full control over your files and this fact only shows you're a sheep. you're peak dogwhistle liar and commie

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>things are actually going well in EU parliament
>amerifat/jap bootlickers are in full cope mode and shit up the threads more than ever before
SKG is going full steam ahead, the haters can keep sucking kike cock
you will own everything and be happy

>>737107094
he explained it in that image, illiterate retard

>>737105142
howabout you read the thread(s) instead

>>737099241
>in this day and age there is 0 logic in removing digital games from online stores
that's because you know nothing less than nothing about game development, game publushing, and digital distribution

>>737093510
strawman harder, retard

>>737093261
never heard of her

>>737079813
test

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>>737107094
Because it goes against corporate interests.

>>737079813
Fuck that Keep Killing Games.

>>737079884
SPBP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXdmoeaYZ9Y

>>737111893
https://multimedia.europarl.europa.eu/en/webstreaming/committee-on-internal-market-and-consumer-protection-ordinary-meeting-committee-on-legal-affairs-com_20260416-1100-COMMITTEE-IMCO-JURI-PETI
here is the complete full hearing

>>737090554
It's probably not gonna be retroactive

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>>737106154
Full rankings:
>France: 746.22%
>Italy: 479.28%
>Spain: 326.39%
>Ireland: 301.18%
>Belgium: 218.57%
>Netherlands: 202.58%
>Finland: 193.74%
>Denmark: 189.23%
>Sweden: 143.55%
>Poland: 124.20%
>Portugal: 114.75%
>Germany: 74.17%
>Greece: 68.23%
>Slovenia: 66.77%
>Luxembourg: 49.20%
>Bulgaria: 26.73%
>Austria: 25.99%
>Croatia: 21.86%
>Cyprus: 20.92%
>Malta: 20.76%
>Romania: 18.68%
>Slovakia: 13.26%
>Lithuania: 12.46%
>Estonia: 11.14%
>Latvia: 9.52%
>Czechia: 9.06%
>Hungary: 7.38%

>>737081612
>support their games forever
Still doing this eh?

>>737114048
>France: 746.22%
I FUCKING KNEW E33 WAS A JEETED BOTTED ASTROTURFED ANTISEMITIC TRASH GAME FUCKING FROGS

>>737079884
land of the free and retard

>>737082630
>you can't force companies to stop putting lead in paint!

>>737079813
>why does /v/ hate SKG??
because most of us are uneducated retards (aka Americans)