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*saves snk*

Are there any SNK characters only (You) care about? Tell me.

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>>555090453

>>555092818
rog ripoff, next

>>555092859
Max debuted the same year as Boxer, so it's worse than a ripoff. It's unintentionally creating the exact same character at the exact same time but worse

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Orochi by Netflix

As someone new to snk, terry is the only iconic looking character to me. Everyone else is kinda... lame

>>555099895
All of SNK's iconic characters are in KOF. Fatal Fury was always about Terry vs. NPCs (it was supposed to be Terry, Andy and Joe but MotW ruined that and Andy and Joe became joke characters)

>>555095062
Too attractive for Netflix, bring her down another 3 cups sizes and slim those legs. Bloat that stomach.

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>>555090453
Kotetsu, Shigen's daughter who became the new White Tiger after he died in LB2.

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Reminder Kyo won forever and last samurai or whatever 3 NEVER.

>>555099895
Nice try odor

SNK is like when a good amateur musician is managed an incompetent family relative who thinks they 'know the business'.

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>>555106536
get your gay ass hands off my daughterwife you loser

>back to an average 200 players
Yes it flopped. People didn't find much big difference as they expected. Should've done the UI overhaul with the launch instead of waiting.

>>555109685
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE NO KAEDA I'M SOrry

>>555109685
Wait! Let me cum first UUUOOOOOOHHH

youre done for losernagi, ima call the boys rn

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>>555106536
>>555111041
weaknagi loses again

>>555110526
said it before and I'll say it again. i will never get tired of cotw shills getting btfoed at every opportunity after endlessly coping

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Kazuya is coming.

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>>555114592
I mean...

Arcane was some animation that made LoL ip soar into new highs of popularity especially among normalfags, and so was Edge Runners, maybe SNK can put this saudi money into good use, and contract a studio to make an animation for their ips, you know actually good marketing. But please not FF or AoF. Of course if it happens oda will give it obari just to add another flop to his cv.

>>555119439
They have their own studio now run by some yankee get ready for the AI generated orochi saga

>>555119439
Sega announced a Virtua fighter anime and SNK slapped their fatal fury logo on a boxing and wrestling ring...

>>555089030
damn that face so bad
she needs to become the new dr baghead

>>555120252
another studio that will make nothing.
>>555120589
>a boxing and wrestling ring
odor still lives in the 90s he thinks wrestling is still as popular as it was, to him it was akin to advertising in the world cup.

>>555092859
>>555093640
Both of them are Mike (SF1) rip-offs, and Mike is a rip-off of Mike Tyson.

>>555120252
>They have their own studio now
found their website and linkedln page
https://arenasnk.com/
>insert coin
I thought it was just a similar name but it's indeed made to adopt their ips, though not one employee of snk work there
>https://www.linkedin.com/company/arena-snk
>2-10 employess
>mostly pajeets
yes a nothing burger, another vanity project. maybe the prince and oda arens't so different after all.

>>555123184
Most likely a money laundering firm. That's sad.

>>555124480
time to get some ice on that hotspot

>>555088767
Puta in COTW when

I got filtered by jae's intermediate 1 and had to cheat it with 214AC...

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>>555132413
NEVER EVER PUTO

>page 9
Kim......................

.............................Jae...................

..............Hooh................................

............................................(raughs)

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>>555139369

this finnish guy has a great b jenet, I remember him at launch
https://www.twitch.tv/wauhti

cant get jae hoon's advanced lvl 3. the last flash kick whiffs everytime.

oh /neog/!
of course pople here are passionate about snk games, they do combo tutorials, tourneys, share fan arts and leaks... wait
>page 9
(raughs)

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let's go!

>>555119439
i thought most people tell arcane fans to avoid league of legends all together because the community is absolutely horrible

>>555162645
Wrong thread, bro.

So is Hotaru like Top 1 instead of Top One?

>>555166669
Hoku is top 1
Hotaru is top 5
Kain is flipping burgers

>Hoku is top 1
Aaaand there goes my interest in turning on the game.

>>555168823
Just play bro

kain aint even in the bottom 10 with the orb rework and ex hkd system nerf desu

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I play Mai, I suck ass, she sucks ass and I have fun.
You can too.

>>555172212
I don't care, I hate Mai.

>>555162645
the fuck am i looking at
who are these snk characters

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How is Tizoc now? Is he as good as those early S2 tier lists claimed?

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>>555172212
Mai is from Street Fighter now. lol.

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>>555109685
I-I kneel kaeda-sama...forgive me...

we stan kaed a here

kaedA gives shermie some excellent foreplay that makes even shermie turn sub

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Okay convince me to buy Fatal Fury: Cock of the Walk with ONLY one letter.

Why are all the American Shun'ei players/enjoyers black?

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>>555194119
Fire is cool. Blue is cool.
Shun'ei can cast blue fire AND regular fire
Therefore Shun'ei rocks

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>>555193430
Electric dragon god cock so good she switched religions.

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>>555194393
Flawless argument

>>555194453
it's the first time she's ever been mindbroken during sex
and not the last

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>>555194869
She never stood a chance.

>>555197649
kaedA wanted to go many more rounds but shermie's entire body stopped working by that point
and it didn't matter as kaedA got his rounds

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>>555197401
thats mfw i play as photorealistic akari for the first time in the last blade 3

>>555194453
>>555197649
kek,based kaeda. also...
>that fucking text at the bottom
geezus cracked is the LB verse?? what the fuck? I thought it was supposed to grounded and shit.

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>>555199126
>I thought it was supposed to grounded and shit.
lol

>>555199570
tbf, the humans in last blade are fairly grounded. The real power houses are the vessels of the four gods.

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>>555198367
Do NOT lewd

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akari as the vessel of mein juniors

I can't believe maximillian chud is simply not gonna play the game, he's just gonna say he likes the game and never play it

>>555183129
This guy was supposed to be Tizoc without the mask? Looks like he has Bogard blood.

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>>555194453
Looks like that cheeky hakeshu couldn't win against the cock but nobody can beat the cock. Not the cock. Can't beat the cock, man.

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>>555209660
Yeah, it's from the Obari opening

Is really fucking stupid that he is yet another blonde guy

>>555183129
>>555210098
>City of the Cousins
BRAVO ODA

city of the blondes fighter v

what's with all of those Al-Kaeda posting here?

>>555183129
"Terry, I..."

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>>555210754
have faith in kaeda my brother

>>555210754
Anon got tired of Cotw and decided to make RAM more expensive for everyone.

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>>555210754
he's getting a lot of art lately on twitter too. just seems to be his year.

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>>555191526
(Raughs)

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>>555197929
yeah, he gets his rounds alright.

>>555210754
You have no idea how much SNK slop i've made. this is nothing.

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>>555211751
>just seems to be his year.

Yeah. The Last Blade vs Samurai Shodown

>>555212619
it's his reward for rescuing her from the evil gods treasures team

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>>555212928
Oda: "You're hired! (raughs)"

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>>555213410
hire me instead odasan
i can make your shitty models photorealistic

>>555213517
Nice Samsho RPG concept art

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>>555213517
Oda:"Sorry, gaijin-san. Only SLOPs here in my, NEVER EVER AAA, company (raughs)"

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Mai and Andy

>>555218442
Sauce

>>555213271
Who’s the blonde one

>>555220150
it's probably yuki mcicebitch

>>555220591
It's Nina Williams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIUfstu5qvY

>>555167964
How come it only has 6k likes? the JP trailer doesn't even have a quarter of it's views. It's botted.

>>555228081
the video is probably advertised.

>>555228081
because it got youtube ratio'd

>>555228865
Has anyone seen an ad?

I mean why would you play COTW. It has no real graphics like SF, Tekken, or MK and it has no SOVL like UNI or KOF. And the MOTW roster killed the IP for 20 years yet they brought 90% of them back.

"real graphics" why are fgctards so fucking stupid

Saudi has cancelled the line city project because they can’t afford it anymore.
Your days are numbered snk lol

>>555243394
Nooooooooooooooooooo we need to pay GO1 2.5 million dollars a year to play............................... Kain

>>555243529
Lol

Saudis probably won’t even sell snk ips they will just move them to their own domestic gaming companies that will sit on them forever.

>>555243394
It was a stupid project from the start because of its size. If only they had reduced the original size to 20% to see if it worked, they could have expanded it later. or not. anyway. Rip, Snk.

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>SNK is going to lose the infinite money card
>We won't see any games with good graphics from SNK in this timeline
>Last Blade 3 will be canceled

What suffering...

>>555250668
but hey, at least that one anon can still get matches in seconds so as long as it works on his machine everything is a-ok

>you don't get matches
looooooool snk is dead
>you get matches
looooooool snk is dead

>>555243394
What does a trillion dollar infrastructure project have to do with their entertainment division? Aren't they trying to snatch WB from Netflix iirc?

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Shermie KoF16

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>>555257103
athena for kof16

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>>555257780
Is this a challenge?

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>>555261094

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For me it's panpina.

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>>555261464

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>page 10

PUTA SAVES NEOG

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havent played cotw in months, did my boy dong hwan at least get buffed?

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>>555275806
yes

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>>555276967

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Hey, Ronaldo!

>>555243394
yes, because SNK that costs like $10 million/year is comparable to his gigantic city in the desert

maximilian chud quite literally didn't play cotw, he sabotaged the game completely, the saudis should khashoggi him

>>555278840
the point is that they're slashing on all their investments, that no longer make any returns. Is SNK profitable? no.

>>555284092
They had a big capital reduction in the last few months. Blind shills will always try to cope about every red flag that doesn't conform to their hugbox until it's too late.

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>>555090453
My personal potentialman, but at this point I don't really care that much if he doesn't make it in COTW at some point

dont google how much bin salman is worth, morons
>>555285015
he's never getting in, maybe if we get season 4 and 5

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>>555088767
It's been a while now since the patch hit for CotW; could anyone please tell me how impactful this last balance patch was? Biggest winners and losers? How much the game has changed after it?

I'm planning to get into the game, but sadly the game isn't on sale at the moment, otherwise I would have gotten it today...

>>555288112
patch nerfed kain and hotaru and made everyone a bit stronger, don't trust any tierlists yet, ken is strong tho and hokutomaru
game is far cheaper now but yeah, wait for the discount then

>>555287643
There's a reason Anon called him Potentialman. Even thought CotW actually ties into FF3's story better than MotW does, the Jins are nowhere to be seen or even referenced

What makes it more frustrating really is just the collabshit has such a massive stranglehold on the roster still. We're 5/28 characters not SNK characters at all and 2 more characters that aren't Fatal Fury, which at least ARE from the same continuity so I would be generous and count them. For an epic comeback, it sure feels like the game doesn't really care about the integrity of its setting

>>555288660
the game needs collab characters to try and attract normies, very few people care about deep lore fatal fury characters, again if we get season 4 and 5 we'll have enough slots for everyone

>>555288629
wait, how hard was the Hotaru hit? I liked her the most from all the cast.

>>555289181
she's slower and more predictable, kain got hit the hardest

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>>555289025
Welcome:

>Ohtani
>Messi
>Max Verstappen
>Olivia Rodrigo
>Goku
>Waldo
>3/4 Beatles
>Donald Fucking Trump

>every character that wasn’t introduced in the Garou subseries has already been in KOF
>and even including season 2, literally all of those characters were in KOF15 except for Big and Krauser
should’ve just made KOF16 and dripfed the Garou cast as DLC

>>555289025
Yeah that sure fucking worked, huh?

>>555289025
Did Strive collab with Messi to attract players? snk is incompetent and is cutting corners with collab shit but it won't help them. collab works with games people already like and play like Fortnite, but they don't get it, they just copy thing without understanding.

>>555279427
Everything just went downhill for SNK when the DOOD dropped SNK sponsorship/shilling because of Rapenaldo. Many other FGC shills like Sajam avoiding COTW and SNK in-general because of virtue-signaling over the Saudis also fucked things for SNK. They have NO-ONE prominent in their corner to shill them now, and the constant bad-press around them as done nothing but destroy their goodwill. SNK's products don't have the looks, nor now even Casual-darlings content-creators like Max to get HOIYPE and all that shit over their stuff anymore. How the FUCK are they supposed to grow now?

>>555295675
Saudis now own EA, the "boycott saudi games" will fall on deaf ears just like how it happened for chinese games. it's entirely snk responsibility to make a comeback after cotw. But no, oda will make aof4 another lame fighter with a boring recycled cast and ps3 graphics, and it will be the fault of everyone but snk

>>555279427
snk sabotaged themselves, they should get that punishment too

How much did Tizoc get buffed?

BOOOOOOOOORING

please go jerk off

it's prayer time, not rn.

Just beat Art of Fighting 1 for the first time with no save states.
Pretty fun, though I wish companies would like port their old games (not emulate it) with widescreen and less cheaty CPUs for cazzies like me.

I've always been more interested in fighting games as a casual arcade mode thing, maybe play with some friends.

https://youtu.be/_RHjB6MtcXQ

AoF on SNES is something else

>>555307501
AOF1 deserves a remake that still focuses on the story and not just being pvp because it's such a unique experience that's held back by being a quarter muncher. Fatal Fury 1 too, both were really trying to be something really interesting and different before SFII turned every fighting game going forward into compslop

SNK really settled for just being a bootleg Capcom afterwards

>>555312780
>. Fatal Fury 1 too, both were really trying to be something really interesting and different before SFII turned every fighting game going forward into compslop
Personally I think FF3 is still the most ambitious game

>>555316220
It is but it's held back by its dev hell fucking over the balance and being the first Fatal Fury with a bad roster

>>555312780
I don't really want a remake so much as I want a port, or if it is a remake, like a remake that is 1:1 in all the ways that matter, but then touching it up a la the modern versions of the classic Sonic the Hedgehog games where It's the same sprites, general gameplay, and music, but the frame rate is more stable, It's in widescreen, slightly higher resolution -- both of which should be easier to do with Art of Fighting than other fighters, due to the sprite scaling in those games would lend themselves a bit more to expanding the aspect ratio and slightly upping resolution -- and better CPUs.

A full on 3D remake wouldn't be great IMO.
It could be made to work, but not with SNK as it currently is.
Even my idea I wouldn't want to be a "definitive release" since even just fixing the framerate in a fighting game will have spillover effects, so an emulated version included would be nice.

>>555316637
I wouldn't really want a 3D remake either because the current staff at SNK are retarded and think it should be the next EVO on stage embarrassment. We can't have single player fighters in this day and age because "that's not right"

I wouldn't mind a 3D remake if it was focused on these concepts though. Stuff like cinematic storytelling, retaining the battle damage, limited roster. But that's not a game you can sell for $60 but neither was CotW

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>>555316220
Fatal Fury 3 is still my favorite 90's fighting game as far as arcade modes go just because I love the presentation.
You can tell they really wanted to make something more story-focused.

Unfortunately it apparently being a commercial flop scared them away from that, so we got the Real Bout games instead which are more Street Fighter esque in how they give almost zero shits about story.
Thankfully Mark of the Wolves I feel like was the series coming back to It's senses.

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>>555306876
Done. What now?

>>555293117
guilty gear has a good cast of character, fatal fury has 3 or 4 decent characters and 20 soulless npcs, you can't even compare btoh ips in any way
>>555291863
it needs far more collab characters to remove the staunch of having billy, vox, kevin, dong, hokutomaru, andy, preecha and other soulless npc characters off of the game that I don't remember right now
>>555295675
the fgc is just a bunch of 40 years old boomers that live in poverty and depend on capcom/sf to pay the next rent, trying to appease to those irl losers is a waste of time and money, people who spent 20 years playing fighting games, never won anything, barely make enough money to survive, they smell like failure and snk being stupid trying to get on their good side instead of investing in game play and trying to build a grassroots community was a far bigger mistake than the dj or cr7
snk focus should be cool and distinct characters that add more gameplay options and improving said gameplay by listening to the current players, this is the only way to build a community, not paying shills

>>555322526
>it needs far more collab characters to remove the staunch of having billy, vox, kevin, dong, hokutomaru, andy, preecha and other soulless npc characters off of the game that I don't remember right now

Sure fuckin worked

>>555322526
>fatal fury has 3 or 4 decent characters and 20 soulless npcs
The entire cast of Fatal Fury Special and Real Bout 2 disagree

Except for Sokaku, fuck that generic jabroni

>>555324023
real bout 2 has a better cast than motw, but they had to add the stupid soulless motw characters in otherwise people would whine even more than they already do

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half of the roster is lame, no wonder snk went bankrupt, this is the problem with making 1 new fighting game every year and trying to follow a storyline, you're forced to kill cool characters and come up with slop to replace them, kim kaphwan is better than both his sons and occupies only 1 slot, joe higashi is enough with the muai thai archetype but now we have preecha, etc etc
snk can't think of making a live service game that lasts 10 years, which is the industry standard for online competitive multiplayer, because the way they work is mass producing games and selling 1 new game every 2 years

.

dix made me gay

>>555330274
usually kof yowey doujins do that

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>>555330274
photorealistic akari shall fix you

>>555325107
>Freeman and Hokutomaru
>Lame
Yeah. Fuck you too. You has don't even born when this game came out, faggit.

>liking hokutomaru unironically
you have no taste and freeman was lame, clearly a rushed half-cooked character
not gonna reply because you'll delete it with bcuz of bad english

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>>555330516
>You has don't even born

>>555330274
Nice try, Andy.

>>555330435
photorealistic fbi shall fix you

>>555330516
The porn addicts (I don’t like this word but it’s true in this case) only want gacha designs with muh big tiddy anime girls, they’re brainless npcs with zero originality.

yeah like freeman and hokutomaru are such inspired characters, that to not like them means you only go to the opposite extreme for waifu characters, instead of just realizing they are shit characters in a shit roster

the agenda of the snk mark

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>>555335330
I like Vox. Favorite newcomer SNK's made in years but he's held back in this baby ass mickey mouse game. I don't mind him being a chill guy to Kain, Marie, and Grant but a dude who's been a street assassin since childhood and is actively helping Kain try to take over the city should not be some dude the rest of the cast can hang out and eat burgers with.

>>555335960
Shit that was meant for >>555322526

They're playing 2xko instead of cotw...

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Honestly a lot of my problems with the characters in CoTW boils down to them not really being given much to do that carries any meaningful weight. They're fine characters, likeable even. Good designs overall. But nothing in CoTW gives them any real opportunity to really feel memorable. EOST stuff is fine for just a look at a day in the lives of these characters but it's just not enough. Where's the conflict? The stakes? Consequences? Where's that grit that MoTW had?

>>555335960
you can like characters, just don't expect others to care that they even exist just because some of you anons are upset that people like things like cool characters that some of you say are "slop" or waifu characters that some here have pejoratively referred to as gacha characters

just to say this in general to everyone, you can't decry what's popular and then whine that what you like isn't popular and make up some stupid reaching reason, at least not without getting called out for such ostentatious attitudes

nothing about snk is glamorous, cool, or posh, or trendy, or even remarkable, they were there in the yesteryears but they squandered themselves and got too full of themselves with bullshit like theme parks, that is how headass they was na'mean jellybean

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>>555336675
it's p much like talking about booking rasslin
even if you had star characters which there aren't a lot of in the fatal fury franchise, if there's none of what you mentioned, there's no engagement factor to get people to give a shit
it boils down to people wanting to see people have issues with other people and wanting two people to want to kick each other's asses, or at least one wants to kick the other's ass and the the guy he wants to kick the ass of is a weasly asshole who tries to slither his way out of it only to get his comeuppance eventually

it's that simple, and you can build upon those kinds of simple concepts to extrapolate them and make people interested
>>555336835

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Ryu is gay

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>>555203463
>>555205329
>>555337878
do not lewd little girls

>>555337878
Ryu is gay for JURI

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>>555337878
Only ALEXXX knows
https://x.com/cez_ij/status/2015818764525453566#m

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>>555338135
Seeing Juri as an evil Kim made me realize how Snk missed the opportunity to make one of Kim's sons evil.

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>>555340787
>Capcucks

https://youtube.com/post/UgkxHGTAc6mtAs2dBm79h65VipNbWQcX8h7p
Hey guys COTW just won another best fighting game award!
Yeah! We just
can't stop winning!

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One day this will be SNK.....

.....one day.....

>>555341387
Why would one of them even be evil?

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>>555346239
Because... why not, you stupid bastard?

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>normie friend ask me if cotw is even worth playing cause every time pat and woolie bring it up, it's always overly negative

the same people who made even geese a good guy, can make anyone evil too.

>>555351838
They're eternally buttmud at Matt being more successful than the 2 of them combined so they lash out at the things he likes.

>>555354527
i dont know anything about that but it's annoying to see people ignore anything good this game might do just because the fgc cares more about "optics" than anything else now

>>555354919
good thing that's really only some people since most people don't even know those guys exist and don't even care to know that snk or its games exist either

>>555351838
A good friend would never recommend a boring shitty game like CoTW.

>>555355847
get out of here

>>555316220
>>555316624
>>555316924
Is there any ROM hack that takes Fatal Fury 3 but replaces the mechanics and characters with their Real Bout 1 versions? Real curious to see how that would function

>>555354919
Their crappy little podcast barely gets 1/3 of the attention Matt's endless low effort fighting game videos make, and when they broke up the group you could tell Woolie and Pat were expecting they would be more successful for it. Pat's family makes more in Canadian welfare for his "chronically ill" wife than he makes streaming, and Woolie is just stuck being mad at everything because he's a miserable person and people don't find that appealing anymore.

Imagine being so soulless to care this much about random e-celeb drama.

>>555365598
they need someone/something to blame for cotw's failures EXCEPT snk themselves

Personally I can think COTW sucks but seeing miserable washed-up ecelebs is also funny

>>555369673
i don't even think cotw *sucks*, i just think it's aggressively underwhelming, it's like it went out of its way to underdeliver and that's just bizarre of a gesture

>>555362435
Little too ambitious for what most people are capable of, fighting game romhacks are a rarity outside of balance tweaks or shitpost hacks like Rainbow Edition. Even then that doesn't really fix the issue that outside of Terry, Geese, Franco and Mary the cast of FF3 just don't really HAVE a worthwhile story. You'd be writing fanfiction to salvage some of the characters

You might as well objectively replace Hon-Fu with Kim

I don't like playing against tizok.
And any other grappler btw.

Always on page 9. Thank you oda.

>>555321831
Please tell me where I can this brother

>>555388158
I don't even remember the threads being THIS dead during the KOFXV hype cycle. Things were a lot more optimistic back then

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>>555388158
You're welcome (raughs)

>>555374532
Grapplers are supposed to have bad normals to make up for their throw damage. No such consideration was made for Tizoc.

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>>555390407
>Things were a lot more optimistic back then
even with me around? that's bizarre
like a jojob adventure

>>555351838
I know someone who's played fighting games for 2 decades, loves the difficulty, the skill, dislikes handholding all that stuff. He was gonna buy CoTW, but watched SNK's vid about all the mechanics, and told me it looks too convoluted and complicated. This guy would love the game, but SNK's vids made it look like you need to use all the mechanics to enjoy it (to some people). I told him, you don't need all that.

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Is he?
Is he /ourguy/?

>>555325107
SF3 syndrome.

>>555322526
>SNK's trying to appeal to boomers
Wrong.
>SNK's trying to appeal to the FGC
Correct. Dumbing down inputs, Rev Blocking, Rev Blows, dumbing down Oki isn't for boomer players. It's for the Nu FGC, not to be confused with the old FGC, People like Sajam and Max are Nu FGC. They shilled SFV, 2XKO, and SF6 - all of those would've bombed and been flat out rejected by the old FGC. And they were, as a ton of the players, ie: boomers, from the MVC3 and SFIV era left and never came back.

>>555394553
>and told me it looks too convoluted and complicated
it's weird because blazblue appealed to a lot of people and it had a lot of convolutions, even moreso in bbcf and it still gets players, so i don't think it's so much the quantity but of the nature

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Give me the Frenchie!
Give me the Francoboo too!

>>555397635
and make sure to give frenchie her fucking original hairstyle and not whatever the fuck that mock luong look was

cool channel to learn basic combos
https://www.youtube.com/@meno13fgcm/videos

>>555394553
show him this
>>555398365
and a few competitive matches instead

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>>555393883
Back then it was just your fuck ass, now it's the whole thread because CotW is even more fucking unappealing of a product. KOF never had high standards to begin with, so people are disappointed with SNK's first real revival that wasn't just the same safe shit they'd been doing for +20 years made for a very fucking bitter fanbase. They chose ALL the wrong options on reviving Fatal Fury, the main one being killing KOFXV as their main fighter and deciding an even fucking dumber product should be their focus for the next 3 years and from the looks of things there's no goddamn way this thing is pushing more than 2

^this is the salty faggot who thought cotw was going to replace kof lmaoooooo

>>555325107
>Gato is lame
>generic wrestler birdman is good

>>555403505
cotw could have been at least somewhat bigger than it was, but it relied more on nostalgia and trying to repackage the nostalgia factor rather than refreshing the property with some actual new shit that would actually get an audience, and that audience isn't looking specifically at muh "solid gameplay", they are looking for fun with characters that look appealing, and they failed to nail at least the latter, and frankly, i don't think the combozzz are fun, it just turns it into more modern kof shit but without even the draw that kof has of just being kof

you can't draw a new crowd to an old product that wasn't drawing in people as much back then either, and knockoff brands of those old characters like preecha and vox don't draw either
character designer fail

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>>555406941
Vox and Preecha's main failures are just not leaning into their concepts better, Preecha doesn't have any sauce to her nerdshit Velma Muay Thai fighter and Vox isn't a 2000s edgelord he's a 2000s edgelord with a baby boy personality. They aren't doomed concepts, just the result of SNK not knowing how to refine concepts anymore which has been proven time and time again since KOFXIV, even in SamSho given how sauceless its newcomers are. Isla and Dolores were fine, but heavily downplayed like how KOFXV in general was heavily downplayed as a bump in the road to CotW. Makes CotW's failure more embarrassing

And let's be real, the newcomers in Strive weren't particularly exciting either. Nagoriyuki and Giovanna didn't move needles. Goldlewis, Happy Chaos and Unika have but not as much as reinvented old characters like Bridget, Elphelt and Slayer. We don't really NEED that many newcomers, we just need more justification to give a shit about older characters. Capcom has effectively given up on its newcomers and focuses exclusively on pandering now. Alex is the most popular he's ever looked and all it took was turning him Heel and giving him actual respect for once

CotW was just doomed because SNK wanted compslop wearing the skin of Fatal Fury, not a new Fatal Fury GAME. This shit barely qualifies as a video game, and doesn't have roster numbers to back up its anemic content

ARMAGEDDON BUSTERRR

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>>555408321
I forgot to mention Unika's popularity comes from ripping off Reina and making her Bridget's girlfriend despite the fact she's supposed to be GG's new main character. Her backstory and writing are fucking awful and her moveset is more rushdown slop. They basically just blended all the most boring, safe FGC traits into a character and called it a newcomer. It's the pinnacle of everything wrong with current fighting games

But SNK couldn't do better with Rock. This supposedly supremely popular and beloved character who has a rich backstory and lore couldn't make a dent in this current era because SNK just doesn't have an idea who they should be gunning for. They go for fickle retards who exist to make money and not a strong, wider spread fanbase of people who'll appreciate their concepts more. Insane ass developers deserve a failure of a game by not understanding the pulse of the community as a whole. Wasted concepts end up causing people to hate them more than if they pull them off badly like ArcSys

>>555408321
>doesn't have any sauce
true dat, something i said before, no sauce, no drip, no pop
a better character designer would have helped a lot on that, but it's not something you can easily measure, just someone with an incredibly good eye as a recruiter would be able to tell who has that
usually a visionary director has that knack
>And let's be real, the newcomers in Strive weren't particularly exciting either. Nagoriyuki and Giovanna didn't move needles.
also true, but gg had characters people really liked, such as sol, slayer, ino, axl, of course bridget, millia, dizzy like that one guy who got his computer checked out because all he had were dizzy pictures on his computer

fatal fury has...terry, and rock, and mai, so there's a difference here between gg and ff in that gg already had something to work with, and ff had characters who may have been okay in the 90s, but...
and that's why appealing new characters would have been better, as long as they weren't treated like poochie or having everything revolve around them
something like juri, in terms of being a lightning in a bottle as someone put it, that's the kind of pop of a character the series really needed
gameplay, eh, i just wanted cool lane gameplay but with more variety in character specific gameplay

>>555409272
SNK really tried to strike a Faustian bargain with DOOD and his Rock self-insert boner and even managed to fumble that

and this is gonna be a hard pill to swallow for the nerds, but they keep talking about how players don't like the scrubby slime tactics of sfdix, but guess what, most people actually don't want honest gameplay no matter what they say to either themselves or to other people

the real truth is, people like a little dishonesty in their gameplay, even if to kid themselves if not just other people, because honesty means they could expose even themselves to a truth, and that's a dirty little shadow of a secret that they have tucked away in their minds that they don't want to acknowledge, kind of like something right out of carl jung analyses

it's like believing in santa claus even when you know he's not a real person, or jesus, or religion in general, or suspension of disbelief when watching movies or pro rasslin, people want to believe something even if it's a lie, and a little dishonesty can go a long way

so when you think to yourself that cotw should be drawing in people for being more honest compared to sfdix, you really should think about the psychological aspects like that

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>>555409308
Unless they went for an even more casually orientated game, lane gameplay was never coming back. And that was my issue from day one with how CotW was handled. It should've been an actual casual game instead of being a hardcore game with casual mechanics. You have KOF, that's a perfectly comprehensive and well beloved hardcore game. There was potential to branch out but they choose to remain in their dying circle

And let's be real most GG characters were suffering the same fucking fate as SNK characters. Only Dizzy and I-No would get merch. That's no real different than being subjected to a million Mai and Athena figures. The difference now is that GG had shed its cultivated identity for a gentrified dadrock take that's more generally beloved. It's not the way to go about things, but it's A way to become successful in this current climate. People don't seem to talk about how niche Accent Core and Xrd were as games, Strive retroactively brought what was effectively a doujin fighter into the spotlight

SNK could have done that but they decided to advertise their game at wrestling events or just showing off a single character trailer every other month was enough advertising. In general the advertising hurt this game more than the game itself, because they would focus on all this retarded shit instead of the game itself. And system mechanics videos hardly qualify as advertising. It would be like reading the Super Mario Sunshine manual and saying tech is the reason you should buy this game in commercials

It's fundamentally not a game for the average person, so it doesn't even get an average playerbase. Picrel, what ArcSys was doing before success

>>555410198
>lane gameplay was never coming back
but it's right there in the game

>>555410254
Wow, one stage after a whole Season of DLC! Especially when they promised more than one and it's gimmick shit that literally nobody plays!

I'm not the disingenuous one, SNK is

>>555410198
oh please, the merch thing is one thing, but we're talking about charisma and recognizability, and sol stands out far more as a character than hat ken, despite the fact that sol bad guy is like some kind of moveset derivative of hat ken, and unfortunately, hat ken and his fatal fury squad are not only products of their times, most of the roster in those games are mostly subject to being the less popular answer in a family feud final
>>555410381
and they said that there'd be more, and ringouts
and it's not like i haven't been like, "where da lane stages at" with a will smith pose

>>555410536
Sol really isn't that much more recognizable than Terry because of charisma or innate design cool concepts. It's solely due to Strive breaking the ice. Prior to Strive, it would've been purely opinion whether or not Terry or Sol was cooler. Now people will innately say Sol because Strive is the more popular and well known game than SNK's work because SNK just haven't made anything that breaks the ice like Strive does. And I genuinely don't know, because I don't want SNK to become what Strive has become the way it has become. Neither SF6. But they aren't even close to finding their niche because they settle like Bamco does, except Bamco is #2. But my point remains the same, GG was weaboo nerd anime shit until Strive made it cool. BlazBlue was the more popular and beloved franchise until it died and GG replaced it. Would you consider Ragna cooler than Hat Ken's retarded gorilla knock off?

Anyway I have no idea why there hasn't been an update or anything. It should be a fucking game mode toggle, not a goddamn stage. That's some next level incompetence

After Mary and Geese, are Yamazaki and Kim the last popular-ish characters (i.e. KOF mainstays) before SNK is actually forced to commit to deeper cuts?

>>555411028
Duck King doesn't count as popular-ish?

>>555411028
Yes but both of those were in KOF too so they wouldn't be exciting inclusions

Duck King should've been back already, needing to wait until the second half of the year for him is too fucking late. Rick should've been S2, not the rest of the fucking Fatal Fury roster we're getting

we are starving for CUTE girls, soooo it's about damn time we get Lily Cane in the roster already. Make her idk, a vtuber or something.

monkey’s paw curls: Chonshu gets in but is now trans *raughs*

>>555410968
i was seeing smash fags request sol badguy during the smash 4 days and terry didn't even enter their minds, and when terry appeared, a lot of them went "literally who???"

>>555406941
it's not even good at the nostalgia outside of the obari shit

>>555411927
it was a combination of not being good at it and the original stuff just having a hard time catching peoples' interest to begin with, and it's not like i hate the characters either and i'm even one of those peeps who would have liked characters like cheng or jubei in there, even though jubei would probably be dead or in a wheel chair

I detect a paradox where people will call SNK characters lame if looking at them standalone but if you say “CvS3” those same people are like “DOOOOOOD THAT WOULD BE HYPE LET’S GOOOOOOOO”

>>555411557
I was a smashfag back then and i haven't seen a single human request fighting game characters back then outside of heihachi

>>555412510
Guy who's lying award

>>555413209
Guy who made it up award

Any new leaks since season 2 began?
Also, any way to mod the skin color edit back in?

>>555411557
Here's the fun part, I was a Smashfag back then and I didn't know who the fuck Terry or Sol Badguy were so I know you're full of shit. I didn't even know who Kazuya was when added to Ultimate. That was my actual gateway into fighting games because the SNK DLC didn't interest me at the time. The ONLY reason I'm an SNKfag now is because of Tekken making me finally take the plunge

And I'll be real, if I were playing modern games instead of 90s arcade games as my entry point to fighting games, I wouldn't give a shit about any of these franchises to begin with. They ALL are coasting on being legacy franchises

>>555412510
This is more accurate because fighting games are a B movie genre that the larger gamer space doesn't give a fuck about. It was Street Fighter, Tekken and Mortal Kombat back then. The only difference now is MK has completely throttled their franchise and Strive took over the #3 spot

>>555412369
Well that's simply because CapGAWD has people in their grasp, and lots love the way they do things. In-fact, they've made the best versions of SNK characters, Terry and Mai, for most people with SF6. Most especially Mai, who's 50x more popular than she's ever been, solely because of SF6. Helps that she's also good in-game. There's probably more people that play Mai in SF6 daily than there are people who play COTW and KOF 15 combined daily.

>>555406941
>you can't draw a new crowd to an old product that wasn't drawing in people as much back then either
Agreed. When you make good graphics the characters naturally change appearance no need for a redesign, GG was an old product that wasn't drawing in people as much back then too, but the way Strive looked was like a rebirth for the characters, it proved they weren’t outdated design wise. Now come cotw, it failed in both, the game looked ugly and characters stayed relatively unchanged. Motw’s cast might not be bad in hindsight but the game’s look and style doesn’t suit them. So basically the secret is finding the style that suits your characters or change them accordingly.

>>555427031
Fucking lord this, people were shitting on the Xrd redesigns for the GG characters for ages and then Strive came around and made all the characters infinitely more appealing to casuals. It legitimately takes making a game that ACTUALLY looks good to make your characters look good. Coping that it's the roster that sucks and it needs collabslop is giving up entirely

Has anybody in here fucking seen how Millia looked in Xrd? Shit, Ky NEVER looked cool until Strive. I hear so many retarded takes of "Ky lost his sauce" as if anybody even talked about Ky being cool once in their lives

>>555409272
>But SNK couldn't do better with Rock
What I didn’t understand is why make him a perfect good boy when Terry is already present? What’s the point? And also what’s the point of him carrying evil blood if he’s just going to be like any random terry picked up and raised? It’s why they ultimately made Geese secretly a good guy all along, to justify Rock’s casteration.
Rock should’ve not been evil obviously, but should’ve been complex anti-social like Vegeta or Iori which reflects their rough past and blood. Or even someone like Giorno cool calm collected because their fathers were both genius crime lords, but they don’t want to be evil like them.

ArcSys having a sophisticated business sense to realize Strive is only popular for its characters not gameplay and making Strive 2 will have the same fate as Overwatch 2 is really praiseworthy, makes you wonder why snk is so retarded when they’re a bigger company with a legacy.

>>555431790
That's not what they're doing, they're updating Strive to be "Version 2" whenever the fuck that is. The way Blizzard handled Overwatch 2 was only something you can do as a fully evil company with disinterest in your consumer base as anything other than a dollar or statistic. The most evil thing they're doing right now is killing OG Granblue, and that's just because nobody plays it when Rising exists

If anything, SNK is more likely to pull an Overwatch 2. The problem is they haven't earned the attention and respect Overwatch 1 had

>>555419085
i was in the threads bruh so no
i wouldn't say all smash fags knew who sol was, but plenty more knew who sol was to give his name into the pot and not a single mention of terry
but even metal slug would get brought up
>>555412510
>heihachi
lol
gonna have to go to the archives on this one
also weird because ryu was the first one to come along and they definitely knew who *he* was and all of a sudden you'd see more chunli wishlisting

>>555432596
>they're updating Strive to be "Version 2"
that's exactly what am saying, they can't make a new game, because they know it will never follow up on Strive's success, so they're just updating the current game until they figure out what to do.

>>555432682
There's a difference between wanting fighting game characters and knowing what's possible now. When Ryu got added to 4, people figured "oh, now Street Fighter characters can get in"

Nobody was thinking that means add Terry, Sol, etc. Heihachi was on the list because Bandai Namco made the game. It says a lot Smashies thought he was more likely than Kazuya because that was the extent of their knowledge

And yeah, Metal Slug was brought up a lot more than KOF. That's because Smash is mostly an American fanbase. SNK had failed for 20 years to be relevant in America with Metal Slug mostly being a charming exception

>>555432875
Monumental difference than the failure of trying to make a sequel that can play the same matches as the original game and eventually deciding they couldn't do that before outright killing the old game outright. If anything it's closer to what happened to DBFZ. We don't know how detrimental Version 2 could be to Strive, or maybe it makes the game somehow even more accessible

But that also requires actually having a solid foundation of a game to build upon. Not like SNK had that, right?

>>555432932
i can assure you sol was mentioned and in them dumb wishlist pics
i wouldn't say he had heavy prevalance but he was def there
and why? because of anime
terry didn't have that kind of cut, it was a temu sf series
you might not have liked anime, and a lot of you still don't or just like anime that's not as popular as them mainstream ones because a lot of you just straight spit on popular, but there are anime fan subsets in the smashfag fanbase as well and they were definitely there

you can hate street fighter 6 and call it slop as much as you want and I don't disagree, but everybody treated the fighting genre as dead niche, until capcom unlocked it's aaa potentioal. You're talking about a game that currently has half the playerbase of Battlefield 6 an online FPS game.

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>>555433142
That's nice and all, but it's not me that doesn't like anime, it's Smashfags don't like anime, they're scrimblo addicts. One or two nerds asking for Sol is a drop in the pan compared to K. Rool, Ridley, Simon, Banjo, Geno, etc. And if any fighting game nerd was asking for an SNK character they were asking for Kyo and Iori, Terry was irrelevant because his series had been dead for 15 fucking years, let alone the fact SNK gave up on game dev after KOFXIII was a massive flop. Meanwhile Sol got a new fucking game the same year 4 came out. You remember that?

You're trying to play retroactive continuity without remembering what shit was like in 2015. They weren't on the radar because they weren't even playing the same game anymore

>>555433574
>it's Smashfags don't like anime
that is definitely not true, i've met plenty even in person who watched at least the popular stuff
and i can't even say terry wasn't ever mentioned, i wasn't *everywhere*
but his name was most likely hardly dropped in the bucket in the overall scheme of things except for people who either were diehard snk thanks to a nerd or liked the engrish memes
i can tell you 10 years ago that i've seen sol mentioned on several occasions or in several of those meme wishlist pics before strive was even a thing, just in the overall picture
being an anime fan is less rare than being an snk nerd
and as for scrimblos, for which someone here didn't even know what scrimblo was when they decided to refer to some kof characters as one, since they moreso generally refer to cereal box like vidya mascot characters like banjo and the like of which a character like simon is not, there were definitely haters and backlash of the annoying scrimblos like banjofags, and they're the reason why we got that scrimblo bimblo meme in the first place, because of banjofags, and kroolfags by extension, because they genuinely were that fucking annoying

but anyway, going back to this
>One or two nerds asking for Sol is a drop in the pan
of course, that's just inherent of being into nintendo

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Furthermore if you all wanna keep seething about ArcSys stealing SNK's thunder and attention, back to the KOFXIII topic, ArcSys never quit making video games for 5 years only to scrape up whatever funds and manpower they could to put out the shittiest looking fucking game imaginable like KOFXIV. ArcSys never left. They'd been working and putting out content ALL of the 2010s since the success of BlazBlue kicked them into full gear. BlazBlue dropping the same year as SFIV was a different time than now where Tekken 8 devoured Uni 2 for debuting the same WEEK. There was actual comradery in the FGC back then, and 2D fighting games were back after they had been killed off for 3D fighting games for almost a decade. BlazBlue outsold every single Guilty Gear release altogether. It was the lightning in a bottle that would lead to another captured lightning with Strive. But ArcSys never stopped or rested on their laurels, they produced fighting games all through out the 2010s. You had
>BlazBlue
>The return of Guilty Gear after GG2 killed the IP
>Persona 4 Arena
All culminating into the perfect "take that" to Capcom with Dragon Ball FighterZ utterly raping Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite. Meanwhile SNK cried like a bitch when KOFXII flopped, causing KOFXIII to flop because they released a "sequel" instead of the finished KOFXII. And when their epic comeback was KOFXIV, nobody was going to give them the time of day when ArcSys, Bamco and Netherrealms were putting out the best looking fighting games you've ever seen. SNK's last chance was SamSho, and they completely butchered that game the same way they butchered CotW. There's no hope for this company to be ArcSys tier, let alone Capcom or Bamco. They just can't. Shit, if Tokon and Strive V2 aren't successes, ARCSYS is screwed. This is their golden age

If SNK wants a golden age they need to do better, no ands, ifs or buts. This abysmal focusing on a single fucking fighting game for 3 years is not it

>>555434387
Refer to the previous point: SNK already left the picture by Smash 4. They weren't a video game company anymore, they were TRYING to shit out KOFXIV but had already damned their reputation to no longer being a player in the game

You're comparing what was effectively not a video game company to a character who had a video game released the same year as Smash 4 and saying "it's because it's anime"

No, it's because SNK itself was not in discussion. Konami stopped being in the discussion for the exact same shit. People were asking for Snake and Simon because Konami IPs are inherently more valuable, but also because Konami was leaving video games after Smash 4 had already been out. SNK had even less reputation in 2015 than they do now

It's not about the zing factor or the anime or coolness. It's about the company politics that have always damned SNK itself. They do it to themselves. Always have and somehow always will, apparently

kys ArcTRANNYSys drone. snk can fuck up all they want atleast they're not woke unironically. I will take a thousand cotws over one strive.

>>555435024
Nigger I hate Strive, I'm just saying the sad, sorry truth that SNK are just fuck ups that don't know how to take advantage of their situations like ArcSys

The girls are hotter too. SNK hasn't made a single good female newcomer worth a damn since the early 2000s

>>555434789
>Refer to the previous point: SNK already left the picture by Smash 4
practicality sake yes, technically no, kofxiii was released in 2010, steam version 2013, smash 4 2014, and they were announcing recruitment for 3d jobs at the time which led to us nerds speculating about kofxiv, all while snk was doing phone games, but the thing you'd be right about is that they didn't have the presence to matter during then other than three years at evo, which is more than xiv got at least
>It's about the company politics
will give you that one, as a company who has an inflated sense of worth to act almost like the time they headass built a dimeless theme park, they need to realize where they actually stand and ain't no two vidya awards for a game that flopped gonna change that, it's definitely at least partially the fault of their attitudes the other part is employee talent and vision
>>555435024
your company bent the knee to a girl complaining about the word "horny" lmao

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>>555435098
>The girls are hotter too.
I Agree.

>>555435730
Thanks for posting why I hate Strive. I can't fucking believe their "new protagonist" would rather hang out with a fucking tranny than the parents who died in her timeline

i one time recall kk talking about oda as if he could be in the sense brow beating based on seniority, not sure if i remember that correctly, like i think it was around the time of kk streaming and talking about how he had to plead his case for iroha in samsho
don't know the details and the actual whos, but it spoke volumes to me about the mentality over there
and i don't even like iroha that much but kk was right, iroha draws attention compared to most other samsho characters whether they like it or not

https://gamebanana.com/mods/189218

>>555436241
>10 years ago
talk about a time capsule too

>>555436195
Reminder of how surprised they were at Ángel's reception when she was revealed for XV

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>>555338135
>>555341387
>>555346239
Capcom and SNK should make Juri one of Kim's evil cousin-sister. Heh.

>>555436195
>>555442286
>a team of homosexual boomers are bewildered that hot women characters are, in fact, popular amongst fans
Makes sense to me

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>>555442951
Tongue-stud goth Juri is hotter than the feng shui engine.

https://youtube.com/post/UgkxVKZrFSUIYsPH4BZ2ws6-8R2A44LgAjqI
GUYS THIS IS HUGE
COTW just won the Best Fighting Game at ALGERIA Game Awards
together with >>555342063 WE LITERALLY CAN'T STOP WINNING

>>555444367
so now people will come flocking over in droves to play cot-
>190 playing an hour ago
>429 24-hour peak

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>>555444367
>ALGERIA
Where is that on the map? At least be the best vidya gaem in Sauid Arabia. Sheesh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZTqbfPqvM0

>>555443072
Juri to be in KOFXV?

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>>555444367
>>555444571
In the current context, these awards won't affect the growth of the player base because the game is BORING.
>B-but... the awards... does that mean it's the best?
Cotw/Snk/Oda were just VERY LUCKY that no other real competitor entered the ring last year. If Cotw had been released this year, it wouldn't have won shit.

So, basically, these "awards" for Cotw are just being used to fill the quota at this point.
>"Okay, let's go to the best fighting game award and... hmm, wait... there's only this game here? eh, whatever... this one won lol."

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>>555447854
Failed state that survives on gibs from France, stolen oil, fake patriotism and anti-Morocco propaganda. They're irrelevant.

>>555444367
who gives a fuck

You can buy the entire BlazBlue franchise in steam for $17.06, cheaper than Real Bout 2 port lol.

oda is the guy who came up with the red rooster gimmick and still thinks it could have been over to this day
>>555462812
i only play bbcf anyway relearning combos for each character is a pain in the ass

>SNK
S - Shō mo nai (しょうもない): Ridiculous
N - Nandemo nai (なんでもない): Nothing special
K - Kudarai (くだらない): Boring

>>555463638
oh no no no no no no no snkbros........

Since Nagoshi the creator of Yakuza has his own studio now why not contract to make a Yakuza-like game in Southtown after Gang of Dragon?, he will unironically give it SOVL and much more details. The lore was all about gangs anyway, his specialty.

>>555463971
That would just make Oda's team look incompetent and eventually they'd start relying on licensing their ips instead of making them in-house with their petz devs. Can't have that.

>>555464325
We need to give $5 million to GO1 over 2 years instead

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>>555464325
>petz devs
lmfao
>>555469380
imagine putting the swc prize pool in game's budget, like alternative skins, but no can't have that.

whats with the schizo making 100 posts overnight? just kill yourself already, you waste of oxygen

>>555472772
Good to know I'm not missing anything not playing this game. Might as well for KOFXVI where they hypertune Mai to be top tier after completely tanking Fatal Fury's reputation permanently like this

>>555471606
Anon I have bad news on who might actually be the schizo here

>>555471606
all me btw
even your post is actually me

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>>555427018
It genuinely makes me butthurt how popular Mai is now because of Capcom/SF6. The vast majority of fan-art, porn, and other shit now is because of it. And not because of her own fucking games from her own damn franchises/company. To make things worse, SNK torpedoed the reputation of her home-franchise. Christ do I hate modern SNK, man. Actually just 80% malice for them at this point.

>>555411028
>>555411085
>>555411131
>Kim
>Yamazaki
>Rick
>Duck
>Xiangfei(?)
Those are probably the top 5 most popular characters not officially in yet, after that I think all bets are off because the remaining potential characters that just aren’t the leading AOF characters are all equally as irrelevant as each other

all these characters and kenshiro will be the one carrying all of them