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Which chud dawi is the most based? I wanna do these bugmen in realm of chaos after finishing tamurkhan
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They have a high metabolism (they are actually very lean under the skin btw they don't have a lot of visceral fat at all, they are insanely muscular, their paunch for example is almost all muscle, surprisingly) and the great maw falling down as a comet on top of them somehow made them magically unable to feel completely sated
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>>555528261
do NOT click unless you want a spoiler for the next update
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>Whatever exists, he said. Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent.
LL's for this feel?
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>>555528205
Hmmm. Very funny. Muscle is not fat like a circus strong man.
"Why you eat me?"
"Meteor make me hungry"
CHOMP
Pic related cad is actually ogre
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No more Dark Elf DLCs. They're done!
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That detail is really cool imo because you'd think like the gorgers being exiled is stupid (they're thrown into caves as babies for being born skinny / without an ogre's belly) since they'd be born "not fat" but realizing that no, being born without an ogras stomach is lacking in a lot of muscle so they do it for practical reasons too instead of a just because of a cultural like of having a fat gut like you'd assume
Greasus is probably the only real fat ogre we have, and even then he can throw a grown man with one hand
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>Genocide all dwarfs in their first hold
>Destroy their empire's economy forever by shifting continents.
Man, Lizardmen are behind everything lost about the dwarfs
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i swear the AI used to be better at fielding archer-heavy armies in wh2. now they clump all their units together and sometimes go an entire battle without getting a volley off. might be some skirmishing behavior exclusive to a certain difficult setting?
i want fighting high elves and kislev to be fun
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MATCHLOCK ASHIGARU
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>>555529912
The battle of camlann! We'll make Camelot the center point of the campaign. Our playable faction leaders each of the roundtable knights, merlin and arthurs half sister. All fighting for or against Arthur in secret.
But then we also turn Arthur into a hot anime girl cause nobody likes shriveled up men. We rename it to Total War: Fate and cancel stinky medieval 3.
This would make more money than even 40k and three kingdoms and u know I'm right
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>game is ten years old and has significant presence of gunpowder units and runs on the same engine as Shogun 2
>no kneel fire
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Astragoth
He's got fire weakness staking, Hell Hammer spam, and bull centaur armies, he's fast enough to keep up with bull centaurs and buffs them a bunch. He has Kindleflame and Ash Storm which means he can give enemies a 40% fire weakness on command, and raise that to 60% in melee. If you have a squad of hobgoblin archers or fireglaives following him around he's fucking lethal. Chorfs can also get a rare item that grants even more fire weakness which lets you just obliterate anything you hit
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>>555535459
vlad but you have to larp as a real elector count and ally the empire
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We aren't getting news till summer aren't we?
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After my Arbaal campaign where I teleported down to the Empire for a challenge and the just stayed there kicking ass for the whole campaign I really ought to try that with Oxy too
It's not like you get any real penalties for ignoring his missions.
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it is
you start at war with vamps and you can bully the shit out of them to make the empire like you more
also some of the bloodlines and tech give you diplo buffs with empire
when all else fails, trade settlements
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>>555529550
>no pooftas
but the last helf DLC was a butt pirate?
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>>555536739
if anon is playing vco then franz needs to die. there can only be one emperor
otherwise i think that would work, at very least i'm pretty sure that factions need to see you to get diplo modifiers from your actions
which is actually a bit of a problem, because you want the elector counts to see you bullying your starting enemy vampires
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>>555535459
Oh Shot! The undead factions are the next to get dlc
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>>555536797
All elves are fags. Even fucking an elf women makes you gay
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>>555537574
>bro greatswords always
literally me
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>>555538529
>Worse than ratfags ever were.
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nothing like a 19th century bridge battle against retards with swords
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>finally get long win as wood elves
>check steam cheevos
>erm actually it's the beastmen who're the rarest long campaign wins out of everyone fuck you
well, at least they're less aids? is there anyone worse than the wood elves in terms of outdated/unfun mechanics or have I already beaten most of them?
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>>555543226
>razer the world
Could you imagine...
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>>555537574
>elves yes
elves? yes!
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>>555545906
Squire approved.
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>open steam
>code vein 2
>read reviews cause bored
>"got a 5090 and barely get 60fps"
Makes me appreciate our warsomething engine like you wouldn't believe. Warhammer ain't the prettiest but god damn.. my old 1080 still runs it.
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This fight was more of a ball ache than I expected it to be. This was like fighting outrider grenade spam, but backed up by actual infantry. This was my first time dealing with the sallies to this extent. I have a newfound respect for these units, at least, in open siege maps.
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WH3 launch was the worst Total War launch, somehow worse than Rome 2 because Warhammer 3 launch singlehandedly undid all momentum CA had built up to that point, people forget but CA's financial and creative peak was around Twisted and Twilight & Silence and Fury. WH3 undid all of that.
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>>555548707
You guys managed to have your gpus smoked by the game that runs on a calculator? sheesh.
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Did I miss that somehow? I just remember me and the mate buying warhammer 3 and then putting some 400hrs into it in a short time. Map paint after map paint.
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I was fine, and /twg/ was mostly fine because figured out what options were damaging hardware and turned them off
iirc setting shadows to medium helped a lot, there were other things too but that was a big one
But that doesn't change the fact that WH3 launched in an objectively broken state
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I love killing Chaos and killing Chaos accessories.
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>Did I miss that somehow?
Did you buy it on launch?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c79cD3gmoPo
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>>555549509
Based
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1) Kill tutorial vampire faction
2) Get non-aggression/trade with at least some of Empire factions
3) Remove dwarves, start war with all greenskins you can find
4) Lahmian bloodline
5) Vlad's skill on diplomacy
6) Military alliance with Karl
Short victory achieved
Boom, +70 relations with Empire
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>>555550718
Does the console audience want TW?
I heard Halo Wars was a decent game, but I've never seen a Halo Wars 2.
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You know what nevermind, fuck me, I'm a faggot.
Even done by CA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_Wars_2
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>>555551758
>Halo Wars 2 provided an accessible strategy game experience befitting newcomers but that it either lacked tactical depth or was too conservative in its design to appease veteran RTS players who had access to alternatives on PC. Several writers recommended the game to console players
40k gonna skip city building, tech trees, multiple currencies, sieges, etc?
I guess it already not gonna have a campaign map so 40k is gonna be a million times easier than warhammer fantasy.
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Fat bitch going down. Karanak is a huge fucking help.. his anti lord spell is awesome.
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Gives Vlad actual mechanics.
He can spread vampire covens and influence mortals like Slaanesh, and he has a popularity bar which fills when he fights evil factions that lets him slowly gain relation bonuses with The Empire and become a legitimate Elector Count.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2919413033
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Defeat they said..
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>>555537771
https://youtu.be/KcKJYO_veBE?si=oT_JoGqZUiqadaz2
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Dude, since when is this a thing? I declare war on this shitlord's vassal and he refuses to join the war but it's still his vassal.. but his vassal now no longer exists in diplomacy..
what
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I like pile of violence
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>>555558465
Duuudee.. I know... I gave Kairos 300k gold and keep filling his armies with 19 chosen but he keeps disbanding them THE UNGRATEFUL FAGGOT
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lmao
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Bro, your dlc? https://store.steampowered.com/app/3450970/Total_War_WARHAMMER_III__Sa yl__Tides_of_Torment/
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>>555559043
Hold on a second..
I might be the retard.. that is Sayl.. at least for me.. but he is norsca, not woc..
Some mod bullshit changed him I guess
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>Its Sayl
>But the symbol is the chaos shield with the crescent moon in the corner like all WoC factions
>Its Sayl but Sayls symbol is his head and a totally different colour scheme
I'm so confused
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Wait.. this isn't Sayl.. but he has of Sayl's vassals.. so I just assumed that was him..
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I'm just as confused. This dude must have killed Sayl and taken over all his vassals.. I dunno who this dude is.
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Fuck if I know, but they are apparently a real thing https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Tsavags
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You know it's not funny when you just spam it, right?
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Apparently I won..
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Hey wait.. I got ripped off! This doesn't give any rewards!
Give me global instant recruitment or something like that.
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I won't be coming home
I won't be going anywhere
I will guard this post forever (forever)
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And that was the day Skarbrand took down a Cathayan bastion gate on his own.
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Oh hey kitty. Force marching in my "3rd battle this turn range"? Bad move..
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>Fight 5 armies vs 1?
Yes. If your armies are full of cheap units you can afford to do that.
Also your lords will still be as powerful as ever, and by late game you can get lords that buff the shit out of chaff units until those units are good.
I'm not even talking about factions designed around making shit units good, like Grom's goblins, 200 armour bret peasants, or 089's zombies, there are some generic lord builds that by mid-high level can take garbage units and uber-buff them.
For example a level 16 grey seer built right can give every rat on the battlefield as much leadership as a dwarf warrior. A Cathay celestial general gets so many area buffs he can turn a bunch of peasants and iron-hail gunners deadly. A dark elf lord with the right name can turn tier 1 darkshards into world-beaters. An orc waaagh can turn a bunch of 20 unit crapstacks into something you can clear the game with. Etc.
You honestly don't need doomstacks if you know what you're doing.
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Rate my formation.
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>>555563917
Well they decided to hunt down my army so I gotta spill some demon blood anyways
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It's another "Skarband gotta solo" episode. Cause apparently AR hates bloodletters
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>I read two more sentences
>Please clap
The chosen get stuck on a billion effectively unbreakable clanrats, get swarmed from all sides because the AI is outnumbered 3 to 1 and ambushed, then get mulched by warpfire throwers
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>>555564686
This isn't exactly "low" armor..
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You are not immune to Nippon propaganda.
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>>555565678
If the AR was accurate, it would have seen a 0 losses victory with Skarbrand soloing.
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>>555562809
>using a shitstack
couldn't be me
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>>555566958
nuh uh
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Then why does it >>555557937 keep working?
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so I've beaten the rarest long campaign wins, what do I do now/play next?
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>>555567871
YES.
PLAAAYYY MEEEE ANOOOONN
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milogost my time of need is your time to shine
banish these freaks
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Why is Skarbrand the coolest lord ever?
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>>555569910
>trap skarbrand on the other side
>he solos the entire city
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do it for her
do it for the motherland
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This >>555563074, spamming infinite cheap armies to overwhelm the enemy, using buffs of certain factions and autoresolve (best played as Empire, the prime faggot faction).
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Had a psychotic dream where athel loren was on the southeast border of the badlands instead and was separated by a really thin mountain range.
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Been itching for some Sinocore, but i remember vanilla 3K being pretty boring. What was the best overhaul mods again? Trom, WuK, MTU and...?
Also which one are the best in this day if anyone has been trying either of them out?
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>>555570354
I actually have a baddragon Orochi in Skarbrands colors.
That is not a joke I am afraid.
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>>555575405
i respect the dedicationfaggot
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>orcs
I only wanna play Gorbad but I fucking HATE his start with a passion. I was finishing up Skrag all the way near Tilea when Queek declared war on me. Then when I wheeled all my armies around to face him Belegar declares war on me despite already being at war with Ikit. The only reason I didn't ragequit was because I got to try out mangler squigs for the first time against Clan Mors shitstacks.
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It is because Horde factions against AI is so fucking easy. The only time a TW AI can threaten you is if they sneak and take an undefended settlements. The AI is impossible to lose battles against or campaigns. An order faction is more fun because you deal with hordes of shitty NPC bad guys swarming your borders. But if you play an NPC faction then the order AI has no idea how to defend its territory. It might send one stack at you, but thats about it.
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Calling the factions you don't like "NPC" factions just makes you sound retarded.
Only the player can play horde factions properly anyway.
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>implying I play humanshits
I play the only interesting faction in the game
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Is it worth taking him off the chariot? Most of the stats go up unmounted
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My Chariotbowl... denied.
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news tomorrow or is there still time today?
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They better not treat us like this when Warhammer 40,000 is released. Imagine if it is their most successful game and then they just go radio silent for 3 months whilst the normies are thinking "wtf, is the game even being updated".
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They better not treat us like this when Warhammer 3 is released. Imagine if it is their most successful game and then they just go radio silent for a year whilst the normies are thinking "wtf, is the game even being updated".
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>40k announced
>fantafags already getting the histkek treatment
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TWH40K News, doko?
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he does the job
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>>555585380
Wouldn't that make them even more gimmicky?
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WHERE'S MY CATHAY NEWS CA???
FUCKING GWEILO PIECES OF SHIT
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>Make a DLC in a completely different era with just 8 characters
>It is effectively a completely gutted main campaign experience
Even after all these years I have no idea what the fuck were they thinking with the DLC for this game
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>Melee Cav is a pointless meme
Not true, rude!!! They're pretty much much faster infantry with a charge bonus
Better at bothering things and living through it, knights of chaos (shielded) will do better at charging a gun line than the lance variant
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Any faction that feels like king of dragon pass?
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What’s the army comp for Oxyotl? I tried using a lot of chameleon skinks and stalkers, but they just couldn’t dent chaos warriors enough to be worth it.
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Doomstack with Big Dinos and Saurus
Skinks are for your second armies back home at mid-end game
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>>555613980
dawn of war will keep the hunger pangs at bay for now
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did they actually promise news at the end of the month or did everyone just assume that?
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either would be cool
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I was thinking about playing cathay again, but peasantmaxing
My first run through the game (RoC) I didn't know how to play very well and I just used jadechuds and celestial dragons (and longmas but they suck such fat fucking cock my GOD dude, nurgle cav mogs it so fucking hard the hell)
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based
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My favorite WH battle I've ever played was during end of life WH1 SFO
>Playing Mannfred
>Have conquered the Empire and defeated Chaos
>Orcs are now my main rival, stronger than me power ranking wise
>Take their settlement just south of the Blackstone pass
>Manfred himself holds the settlements while my other armies race down to reinforce
>Three Orc stacks led by Grimgor himself attack me
>Massive siege where, by the end, all that remains is Manfred and a few skeletons
>Armies later arrive and I do the usual "mop of the AI for a while before calling it" ending
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>Space Marine 2 is getting Chapter voice pack DLC now
Just imagine all the milking possible with TWW40k
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5C3XU40y-nE
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>>555621082
WE WUZ
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Armored Kossars straight counter the entire Skaven roster, there is no way you can lose as Kislev VS Moulder. Even regular Kossars annihilate Skaven since they win at range and then they win at melee. Especially if you start as Kostaltyn and kill Throt on Turn 2-3 right after he takes the minor Druzhina settlement to your east and Kostaltyn bashes the rats head in with his flaming mace.
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if you were more attentive then you would have played up to the point when a Chorf doomstack has no way to deal with 16 dragons spread across 3 Helf armies because dreadquakes don't do shit vs. SEM's and there's one entire anti-large unit in the entire roster that's not a hero
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He's mid tier at best, he's not a spellcaster and he can't fly, which automatically cuts him out of being a top tier LL. He's good at what he does but he can't take on entire armies with ease the way a spellcaster LL will, but at least he's not useless like a ranged LL is.
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>>555614628
I just watched the ork trailer and dawn of war 4 looks so ass
the plasticky unit models, the stiff animations, the anemic gun sound effects and emotionless voice acting, the units just kind of standing in line out in the open firing at each other, the imperial guardsmen all running in unison like robots and shooting projectiles instead of lasers
it all just looks like such a downgrade compared to the OG game
god I really hope TW doesn't end up being this dogshit
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>>555625250
gay dykes negates, so they're straight
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>>555549182
>You guys managed to have your gpus smoked by the game that runs on a calculator? sheesh.
You'd be surprised what some people try to run their games on, and then complain. Bet it was MX440 or Voodoo 1.
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>>555625953
nobody wants them to be hairy gayreeks
Custoded are meant to be Chadnatolyans
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>>555625159
your shitty bait falls flat because of space marine 2 doing lasers right, if you want to bait correctly you have to spout unfalsifiable bullshit like >>555625250 , cuckstodes never appeared in any real games and nobody cares about what tableslop secondaries have to say so no /twg/ anon can confirm or deny if he's right or wrong
that >>555625250 is how you properly bait
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>>555625441
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>>555625953
the sacred band was based though
>drink wine
>fuck twinks
>crush Spartacucks
not their fault the political "geniuses" in charge of their city decided to fuck around with Alexander's Macedon and found out
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>>555625953
The only thing I know about the band of thebes is from that one anime where historical characters get transported into another world. Even as a bunch of flamboyant gays, they were still better than current custodes.
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>>555625953
They are Alexander's Companion Guard not overblown one off victory fags whose system failed as soon as it had to be proved a second time.
Thebes' faggot brigade fought Sparta in their twilight when actual Spartiate's numbered under 2000. Sparta fell into obscurity because they were perfect for their time and refused to evolve. They were the inverse of the Romans.
>>But if you tell me anything about that organization I will get real mad!
Faggot.
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its much more of a fear than respect deal
The greenskin knows he doesn't actually respect the shrimp but understand that the system of spies and lurking daggers is dangerous enough that they can't say shit unless they're a nob themselves
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>>555634713
Looks like the type of knight that would get elf'd.
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Blood Knights.
Then again, I am a sucker for Vampires.
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Great Stag Knights blew me away the first time I used them, especially the RoR ethereal ones with physical resist. Best ones, they're not proper knighty but crushers are just absurdly good. Every unit you don't want to fight can be simply bowled over until you get to the right ones, and the ones with ironfists are even tougher, with most of your damage coming from mass/collision taking the defense oriented variant feels smart to me. Paired with some stonehorns and hunters on stonehorns most armies just have no answer to being trampled to paste.
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>>555634650
1) if it was a TCALUK oc wouldn't it be space Cathay, and
2) idk how to break this to you bud
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>>555643137
i was reliably informed by /twg/ that we were getting news this month, and that the next single lord pack would be a Cathayan.
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>>555643946
no, AoS isn't flopping
does it sell? yes
but does it have any presence outside of a tabletop space that isnt just mockery?....no
GW is forcing it to be a thing, it's getting a secret level episode this year (y'know, the show about videogames....) and even then I very much doubt anyone is gonna give a shit about it outside of GW, who will shill it with advertisements on the webstore with SEEN IN SECRET LEVEL and shit
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>>555645154
>does it sell? yes
Not according to anecdotal evidence.
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It isn't the first time I heard about AoS selling like shit though
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Imma be honest.. I don't like Ratling Guns
>Oh BuT tHe DaMaGe
Skaven armies are always on the move. You do not 'battleline' in the same way you would with an empire army. Besides, most of your troops are shit anyway and will run quickly. Thus, the typical square formation wouldn't do much good.
Night/Gutter runners are good because of their ability to move. Ratling guns must stay in one place and don't have much versatility unless you manage to make a chokepoint, which doesn't have too often in open battle. They are a pain in the ass to move.
Jezzails get a bit more leniency because of their range. Do not get me wrong, ratling guns have the capacity to do lots of damage, but it's not wiping out incoming infantry before they hit you levels of damage. When I use one, I am always wishing I chose something a bit faster or that can fire on the move, or I just went with some Stormvermin for armour piercing.
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>you do not battleline
Yes you do
>on the move
Never
Nigga you sit your ass in one place and never move. That's how skaven work. Battles all play themselves.
It is exactly wiping out before they hit you damage.
You are rage baiting.. I've played as much ikit claw as I have skarbrand, I know my rat combat. You bring artillery and weapon teams and like 3 heroes and only 2-3 melee units. Then you shred.
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>>555645758
Skaven have a better front line than the empire.
Skaven can choose to have a very static army because stormvermin are infinitely better at holding the line than any infantry the empire has.
Don't know what skaven did to deserve such strong infantry.
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>>555645310
Because 6 of those were mobile games with occasional PC ports and the other was a full priced RTS(dying genre) that was also shit on its own merits.
Like all Warhammer vidya. Only Creative Assembly, Fatshark and Saber can make a Warhammer game worth playing.
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>muh witch hunters
Yea, but presumably at some point the Skaven will try to attack somewhere, and there will be corpses and people will discover it.
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>saw someone on reddit say "the hammer icon means you CAN build not that you HAVE to build"
>no longer fucking STRUGGLING to both upgrade my little cities and also field armies
I'm pretty good at this sort of thing usually (played a lot of age of wonders 4 so I'm used to thinking about "return of investment" on building things) but it never occured to me that upgrading some buildings takes like 24 turns for them to pay for themselves
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>>555647909
There aren't just armies of skaven roaming the surface like in TWWH, sightings of skaven are actually really uncommon.
When people do see them they're easily mistaken for some sort of beastmen, assuming the observer survives the encounter.
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>>555647970
Because I rarely read the game mechanics and just brute force things, it took me about a year to realise I could overcharge spells, and that by upgrading my smaller settlements, I was taking growth away to upgrade my bigger one.
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>>555647909
The skaven deliberately avoid being seen or found at all costs, the empire is only too happy to comply, since people would panic, it's almost like a mutual non-aggression pact of sorts that unintentionally exists
Also what he said >>555648106, they might as well be beastmen to the people who do encounter them in the rare occasion
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>>555647909
The sensible lore would be
>rat like beastmen are a known thing but the idea of a entire subterranean empire of billions is impossible so it gets dismissed as mad ravings
instead its
>there are enough infiltrators with knives to the throats of high society so the very idea of ratmen existing is made out as retarded, only select witch hunters and nobles know about it and they intentionally tell nobody to prevent panic
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>>555647909
The idea is
>surface dwellers being aware of skaven means skaven are more threatened means skaven are more likely to attack
so it's pretty much a ruthless suppression campaign by Imperial forces, including shadow wizards who can obscure stuff and mindfuck thousands of people with a flick of the wrist, outright killing or expulsion of those with knowledge (calling someone a heretic or blasphemer is such a commonplace event and with the majority of them saying absurd shit it can be easily handwaved as ravings of the mad), skaven sightings just being "goddamn beastmen again", or skaven just generally being pretty decent at hiding and/or cowardly enough.
>there will be corpses and people will discover it
they're generally real cowardly scavengers and trying to hide their own presence, skaven only kill with a big numbers advantage so outside of isolated farms or hamlets it's pretty rare they're not doing some eshin-tier assassinations, and hamlets/farms getting wiped is pretty common, most people would chalk it up to beastmen. assuming skaven were successful in their attack, they'd likely hide the corpses of their fallen comrades, and skaven would be unlikely to make an attack unless they were going to be successful in the first place. Similar to Tyrannids in 40k, the assumption is that only their defeats are recorded since their victories are pretty absolute and don't leave any survivors.
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>>555650276
>Total War: Game of Thrones
it's been out for a decade anonmanii...
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>>555632774
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>>555653461
how does Miao Ying make shugengans?
does she get pregnant? lay eggs? shapeshift into a futa and impregnate cathay women?
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>>555653669
I just literally cannot imagine Miao Ying engaging in sexual activities. Literally all of her lore is "cold and aloof". Even less, I can't imagine her giving birth or raising shugengans.
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>or every shugengan comes from the male siblings.
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I don't think they have dicks or vagenes or a womb. I mean the dragon emperor is like some weird dragon god and the moon empress is a shapeshifting alien. They have 0 human dna. Their human forms thus don't have any organs or whatever. They are just flesh pressed into form to look like the humans that serve them.
I imagine they fuck like the blue aliens from mass effect. You look into their eyes, go on an acid trip, you get preggers. So Meow is probably impregnating females cause she doesn't need or have sex organs.
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>>555655787
Yin-Yin has the opposite problem where all we've learned about her is that she's rarely home and cares more for adventuring than ruling. Engaging in sex, sure, but raising kids doesn't seem that probable for her.
By comparison, there's Yuan Bo who literally talks about having a son right now, and Zhao Ming who... literally everything points towards him being VERY prolific. Li Dao also seems to be in the same vein as Miao Ying, who knows.
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>>555656170
I haven't read the booktho i'd like to, do we even know that they raise the shugengans personally? They're semi-divine beings and they all seem pretty busy in their own ways, surely if your gallivanting leads to an unplanned pregnancy the kid can just be dropped off in some temple or magistrate's office and you'll be reasonably assured that it'll be given a decent life
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>>555657086
I don't think he could. Moon empress and dragon emperor are older than the races on the planet, before the old ones even entered it. And at that point chaos wasn't on the planet. So he'd have to be super ancient and have randomly traveled to that planet to watch a dragon god fuck a xeno.
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>>555653669
just started playing wh3 for the first time, playing as her because she was the cutest girl
Why is my first mission attacking Chinese peasants to capture part of the great wall of China from them? It says their relationship to me is neutral and yet I apparently have to attack them. I thought the Cathayans were loyal as fuck and the dragons were worshipped or something
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>>555659481
>I thought the Cathayans were loyal as fuck and the dragons
most of them are most of the time, but there's a reason the dragons have a secret police staffed by crow people
sometimes some of the humans get uppity and think that maybe they shouldn't be ruled by immortal lizards
sometimes they need to get stomped into the fucking ground and taught a lesson
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the artist has a thing for feet I guess
>>555659870
I'm not really that interested, it's more like I'm complaining. I didn't know anything about Warhammer lore when I played 1/2 for the first time, but the first opponent in the Franz campaign is called "Empire Secessionists" so that's pretty self-explanatory and the loading screen even mentions it. then your first mission is to fight more empire men, it's presented as a skirmish due to some machination from a middenland cunt iirc and the whole campaign is meant to be uniting and conquering the dickheads of the empire before chaos arrives.
by comparison this Miao Ying campaign seems very low-context. maybe there's some historical analogy that I'm supposed to be able to mentally slot this into that I'm missing, like how the Empire is basically just the HRE
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Actual fucking NIGGER battle fucking cunt ass retard dwarves
Why do my units get a complimentary lobotomy sometimes MAN FUCK
>ermmm... hmmm... I will le NOT SHOOT!
Seriously though this took like 7 tries
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>>555663087
do yourself a favor and mod the game to fix it since creative retards refuses to do it
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3628832922
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>>555663463
Well then you're in luck
>Relentless Firepower: Only models in direct contact switch to melee while the rest continue firing, a logic that also helps units maintain tighter defensive formations. However, please note that due to engine limitations, this is a mitigation rather than a perfect fix, designed to improve unit behavior as much as the game's architecture allows.
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>>555663087
>dying to skellies with chorfs
oh nonono
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Okay I'll say it
I unironically like Cylostra and think her entire character and theme is really fun
It's a shame we didn't get Vangheist as an actual character but I like Cylostra more, Vangheist is kind of generic and ghost pirate isn't that different from vampire pirate
Cylostra's banshee angle and opera singer backstory make her way more interesting
She also fleshes out Bretonnia a bit more, so much of the setting focuses on the Empire so we don't get to see other nations interacting much. It's interesting that the High Elves and Bretonnians have close enough ties that someone like Cylostra could meet the Phoenix King
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>>555668354
Every single person in 40K is secretly a spearmanii
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>>555668901
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>>555668354
The grey knight DLC will save TW40k
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>>555659481
Cathay is a caricature of China. They claim they are bestest and most harmonious and loyal and peaceful and shit, but in reality their Dragon Siblings bicker constantly, there's tzeentchian cults and Undead (Jiangshi) within their borders, some of the "unbreakingly loyal" magistrates are absolutely corrupt and often rebel, their "warriors clad in finest armor" have worse armor than lowest-ranking Dwarf Warriors (more akin to armor used by civilian Miners), their Cannons have worse projectile speed than Dwarven cannons (worse quality gunpowder that has lower expansion rate) making up the shortcoming by simply using tons of it to fling slower but bigger balls and so on. They are the epitome of chinese propaganda where they claim everything is great but in reality their land has issues just like any other country.
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>>555670674
Based headgiver
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>>555672213
You vile filth of an anon.. you are nasty..
But if you make it Ikit Claw with a huge schlong I'm game.
>>555672378
Ur mom was cheating that's why u a mutt
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I just vassalized the dude of endless lords.
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>>555676085
>power
All you do is whore around. I just razed 8 settlements, killed 2 armies, made 4 armies, am attacking a gate rn, after that is another army..
I think I'll never end this turn at this speed.
Lokhir is on suicide watch.. he has tow atch everything he took over endless turns just.. vanish.. and he can't do anything about it cause it's not his turn.
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>>555676085
>every region trading mod for wh2 was broken
>wh3 adds region trading
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>it's broken
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>>555677324
Yeah, the DLC units are nonsense, you'll never use em. You don't have the blue scribes but they are just an isntant win hero anyways. Like.. whatever army u stuff that cunt into is immortal really.
You have all the things you need. Your chaos warriors and chosen, your pink horrors, your flamers, your cav..
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>>555678014
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This is the kinda shit I really can't stand.. It means microing Skarbrand nonstop to kill 5 trillion shades.. yay..
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>>555681021
Yin-Yin will mog her
trust the plan, news today
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>>555681021
By being dragonsexual
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>>555681574
How can you not wish to be the lover of the greatest LL ever made?
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>>555687071
Send a hero to find where Khazrak is, if he wins against Toddy you have to go kill him. Otherwise invading Bretonnia early to deal with Himmler and Grom is a good idea.
Since they unshacled the AI of golgFAG he usually takes out nurglewhatshisface and Elspeth wins against Vlad. Grom and eventually Ikit is the biggest problems in early/mid game.
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>>555688615
Oh yeah i forgot about those minor greenskins shits. You have to take them out. But you dont need to hold the settlements there just sell or give them to Toddy. Dont discover northern savages(TM) or they will target you.
Empire campaign is about putting down fires. Just constantly check diplomacy to who is fighting who. Grom might lose to WEs and Vlad could destroy Elspeth you can never know.
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I would really like to actually play some Cathay, but I just can't stand their starting locations. Cathay itself is such a boring place, and having to dedicate everything towards fucking over Eshin get's really stale quickly. I still haven't really tried the guy that starts in Lustria due to him having a dual-start and being located in that shitty jungle... It sucks
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>>555689053
Extreme butthurt + delusional self importance
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>>555689053
>Why did Legend of TW quit
Because he's actually a drama-faggot but can't stand the heat himself. It's ironic considering he's always fanning the flames... It's really no wonder that CA can't fucking stand him after he's backstabbed like 5-6 times already
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>>555689053
we did not have his back so he sperged out and quit
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>>555689053
>Why did Legend of TW quit?
Couldn't even sniff a tourney qualifier win, let alone win an actual tourney, so he was laughed out of the community as a turboshitter who has no clue how to actually play the game.
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>who has no clue how to actually play the game.
tbf he's pretty good at cheesing the fuck out of the AI, and that could be considered a way of playing the game, even if it is boring as fuck. But no wonder he got fucked playing against people that actually don't just let you bait out all their ammunition and blob up for spells
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>>555692894
this is my 6th attempt at a kislev playthrough
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Why is that? Ill try Kosty again i guess
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>>555693073
I recommend Katarin for your first time. Maybe a tad bit more predictable than kosty. Dont sign any non aggression pacts with the empire until you've dealth with Throt. You need to rush Hellpit whilst also getting decisive victories. Once you take hellpit, sell it to Malaki for an alliance and then head south to take care of Azhag before he declares on you. Sell his provinces to Ungrim for another alliance. Now you can take Praag if it hasnt already been taken by the norscan tribe and secure the eastern oblast that will be flooding with chaos/chorfs and norscans.
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Azazel and his gimp have been hanging out in my experiment pits for ten fucking turns now what do I do about this degenerate without losing that sweet trade deal
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Unlucky I guess
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>played through 70 turns of a Selucid campaign
>destroy Egypt, Kush and the arab tribes, pacify the east, retain most of my satraps, ally with the Macdonians and Spartans
>finally head west
>rome is just squatting in its starter settlements
>carthage was completely taken over by a north african tribe, which is in a losing war against one of my north african allies
Welp, guess that game is over
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>>555681021
She's not even the most popular LL in her own faction.
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>>555693073
How in the world did you let that happen as Kostaltyn? You can straight up merk Throt on turn 3 when he takes the Druzhina settlement, just kill him right afterwards and you can casually finish off Druzhina yourself then go north and take Hellpit. The only time Throt could ever become a real problem as Kislev is if you're playing as Katarin and Azhag declares war on you super early so you have to prioritize him over Throt, but Kostaltyn does not have this problem.
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With rat ogres and heroes in it
>>555710038
>nuh uhhh! if it happens in my game it also happens in yours!
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tried that method. I got hell pitt but throths armies took over my settlements; Arbaal and azazel also ganged up on me. I give up on kislev for now
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>>555710520
>But Throtts armies took over my settlements
You do realize rushing Hell Pit doesn't mean you ignore the other settlements and armies in between it and you, right? You kill all of those as you advance to Hell Pit and when Hell Pit falls Moulder is dead as a faction. Did you legit just bumrush Hell Pit and ignore everything else and think it would work?
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>>555710520
>Kossars with spears
>Lost the starting winged lancers
>No second army
Bro... Just start again on hard/vh
>On turn 1 defeat the tutorial enemy and capture the settlement try not to take too much damage
>Recruit a lord from the captured settlement
>Get another lord on Kislev, recruit 2 kossars
>Katarin recruits 2 more kossars
I can capture the major settlement with just these but you seem to be green so go for the other minor settlement while still recruiting kossars DEMOLISH the fucking barracks and build the money building (that gives 100).
Try to ambush if AI tries to sit on the settlement. After that you can afford 1.5 half stacks of Kossars. With them slowly kill and capture Throt's settlements. Kostaltyn will help you finish him off he might even capture hell pit for you.
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Fuck me, Ma Teng's early game is quite stressful on top of having barely any cash. But now that I stomped out my early competition I think I can chill a little for once and colonize the rest of the north and build up my economy
I honestly didn't know just how much I missed many of 3K's systems
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>>555718438
And it still is, it just requires actual tactical positioning with your forces to pin down your target before using the spell, rather than just putting it two feet ahead of an advancing blob that walks right into it blindly.
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>>555719142
40K isn't coming until late 2028 at the earliest, and it will be TWW1 quality at best, so taper your expectations on both time and scope if you want to keep yourself from being massively disappointed.
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>>555719525
Sounds good to me, TWW1 was the best Warhammer total war game
>perfect faction balance, 2 good and 2 evil with chaos being a true apocalypse
>amazing theming, felt like the dark fantasy world of warhammer
>better event writing, cutscenes for every faction and major event
Even by the end why they added all the factions they were still pretty sensible. Then came Warhammer 2 with reddit writing, plastic cartoon aesthetics, retarded storyline, overbuffed mechanic-slop. Warhammer 3 really was the death knell. Now there are major chaos factions in random swamps, every faction was equally distributed across the map like a fucking amateur random starpos mod. Warhammer 3 has been a total embarrassment and I can't wait for modders to fix it in the coming years.
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>>555720327
Aren't all of the start positions in IE lore accurate, though? Well, outside of Lustria anyway, I know Markus is actually a character that specifically would never leave the area he protects and the idea of Alberic being sent on an errantry quest to Lustria is also quite absurd.
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>>555720587
Just from The Empire alone
>Gelt in Cathay when hes meant to be the supreme (golden) patriarch of the imperial colleges of magic in Altdorf
>Volkimar also now is for some reason looking for Niggash's books instead of Altforf as well
>Markus uncharacteristically fighting liggers when hes a Middenland boy who hunts Beastmen and Chaos monsters
>Thorek isnt in Karak Azul defending it from attacks
>Grombrindal is in fucking Naggarond for no real lore reason
>Teclis isnt close to The Empire despite being the ambassador from the Elven Court
>Alith Anar is fine being in Naggarond but doesnt own Nagarythe from the start
>Prince Imrik is away from the donut despite being heavily involved in the political struggles of the Asur
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>>555722228
I suppose it's for gameplay reasons, if everyone was where they were supposed to be there would be very few if any enemies close by and each area would be a dominant bloc of a single faction with very few exceptions.
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>>555722228
Also
>all the major chaos daemons spawn in random locations across the map instead of all starting in the poles
>Khatep is in Naggarond for some reason
>Alberic is in Lustria for some reason
Lustriabowl and Badlandsbowl were popular reddit memes so CA added even more legendary lords down there, removing them from their previous loreful locations, as a funny ebin meme
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>>555722448
So mid to late game would consist of powerful empires in coalitions in their loreful locations all willing to challenge each other? How horrifying, I want a random Cathayan OC to own all of Lustria for no reason instead. That way I can post the screenshot on reddit
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>>555722663
The problem with that is that there is no "mid to late game" for the vast majority of TWW players, who start a campaign and are done with it by turn 30 at the latest. If there we no readily available enemies in the starting area people would complain there's nothing to fight.
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>have T4-T5 settlements by turn 30
>have T3-4 units by turn 20+
>diplomacy means fuck all unless its someone of your race you can confedrate because doing alliances with anyone else is just asking for the AI to gang up on you
>have access to all your Legendary equipment usually before Turn 15
Wonder why everyone stops playing by Turn 30? Because they spoonfeed you the entire game by then
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>>555724260
I actually think it's because most players cannot handle multi front wars and once that becomes a requirement they quit and play another campaign where they only have a single front to fight on with their main LL, because anything beyond that is too much for them.
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>>555724454
>actually think it's because most players cannot handle multi front wars and once that becomes a requirement they quit and play another campaign where they only have a single front to fight on with their main LL, because anything beyond that is too much for them.
Empire is the most popular campaign and the entire point of that campaign is multi front wars
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>>555724539
Empire is the most popular campaign because all its players do is quit by turn 10 when they realize they need to fight more than one front at once, then go on the forums to complain that the Elector Counts are being eliminated by LL competition instead of surviving to turn 50 to be easily confederated, which is, according to Empfags, the way the game SHOULD work. Then they start another Empire campaign and quit that one by turn 10 as well, bloating the stats of "most played" through the roof in doing so.
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>>555720327
things I liked better about tww1 in no particular order
>the AI would rarely ruin-dwell so Norsca's campaign actually worked
>dwarfs/greenskins and vampires/humans could only each occupy each other's settlements. I list this as a positive but tbf it was nightmarishly annoying if you ended up at war with a post-confederation Dwarfs blob because it meant you would have to raze 30 settlements in mountain ranges with no replenishment and no Underway stance
>chaos invasion felt like a very big deal and could destroy literally the entire map if unchecked, on the other hand you kind of felt like a badass if you held it off in Kislev
>the mini campaigns were better than Vortex/RoC
bad / better in tww3:
>unit balance was awful, especially at high tiers. for instance Greatswords took two turns and two buildings and were just total crap. whoever came up with the old Beastmen recruitment system should have been sacked
>Greenskins were very boring and very shit, they were basically entirely balanced around Waaagh which was a lord ability at the time
>this was actually more a problem for the Dwarf campaign because it made it too easy
>auto resolve was insane and would hand you Decisive Victory for outnumbering the opponent by 5 even if your units were a t1 crapstack, you could easily take over the entire Empire with 37 swordsmen + 1 mortar
>similarly to tww2 you only had any sort of "edge" over the AI on Legendary/VH if you cheesed somehow
>diplomacy was so much worse in so many ways
>a lot of LL traits,, faction traits, and unique equipment were total nothingburgers. I appreciated the powerlevel being overall lower but if the equipment is so bad that you ignore it for Gambler's Armor, or if the trait is so lame that it doesn't affect the way you play at all, then it might as well not exist
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>>555725542
This is tracking battles
>Empshitter starts game
>Autoresolves the 3-4 battles to take out the secessionists
>Autoresolves a beastmeme or orc shitstack
>Calls it quits
The skavenfags being lowest winrate is because they are retarded and depend on overpowered campaign mechanics to do anything
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>>555725542
>Empire players
>civilized and open to discussion
>study formations and game mechanics to better understand their faction
>never quit, sees things through to the end
>Skaven players
>subhuman 0 IQ retards who spam Weapons Teams + ambush
>ready to quit a campaign if they even so much as get an AR outcome of Valiant Defeat rather than actually play the match out
>"we want Verminlords so we can have one man doomstack greater daemon rats!"
Grim
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>>555725552
TWW3 is by far a much improved and better game than TWW1 and TWW2, despite a few problems here and there. Just about every faction feels great to play (except for Bretonnia and Vampire Coast) and even they can be fixed with cheats.
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>>555726564
You forgot
>literally so bad at playing battles CA let them just remove cities from the map whenever they want
>>555726647
In MP campaign they are considered the strongest faction in the game. What about this is hard?
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>>555726647
>faction that has strong melee (death runners, mutant rat ogres, brood horrors, hell pit abomination, doomflayers, doomwheels) and ranged (guns, jezzails, globadiers, bombadiers, warplock flame thrower, poisoned wind mortars, plagueclaw catapults, slingers) and access to stalking is hard
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>>555726925
>Empire
>Has no mechanics
What? Elsepth and Franz alone have more than entire factions put together.
>The worst heroes
They have the best Mage options in the game, Empire Captain is solid for his class and Engineer is #1 for his class. Only Witch Hunter is weak.
>Useless Lords
Elspeth and Balthazare are extremely strong, Franz is fine once he gets his bird, Volkmar is just average and Markus is weak as a kitten but such is the fate of all ranged lords that aren't hybrid melee fliers named Naestra and Arahan.
>No units better than a clanrat
Best gunlines in the game, best artillery in the game, and the second best cavalrly in the game. At least attempt to be serious with your downplaying.
>Starts next to Chaos
Markus is the only one who has to deal with Chaos early, all the rest have significant buffers between them and any relevant Chaos faction, if you want to complain about a faction starting next to a potential Chaos tide that would be Kislev/Malakai/Meow who actually have to deal with it early on.
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>>555727502
I played elspeth, her nonsense menu is useless. Doesn't ever do anything.
Best mage options when Tzeentch and High elves exist? High elves get dragon mounts, tzeentch beats everything. The captain is shat on by any exalted hero ever, especially nurgles and even dwarf heroes. The engineer wishes he was a dwarven or skaven engineer.
No they are pathetic. Wanna know what's stronf? Slarbrand, Kairos, Arbaal, Archaon, Belakor.
The best guns is skaven, then dwarfs, then chorfs. Same for artillery.
The best Cav is Nurgle, second best is Khorne, 3rd is slaanesh, 4th is cathay, 5th is ogres.
Karl starts next to nurgle and volkmar next to khorne
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>>555645070
Yeah braids as a mirror to beards is a pretty cool design cue but they kind of botched. For chorfs especially wide braids are very prominent in mesopotamian depictions of women so it would be in line too but they went the other way. Oh well.
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>>555727501
Auto resolve always heavily favors armor and ammunition, which is why in auto resolve things like Elven artillery gets dozens or even hundreds of kills, whereas in the actual battle it will get maybe 2-3 kills total since auto resolve does not ever accurately reflect the power of the units you or your enemy have at your disposal.
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>>555728273
Tzeentch sucks
>Kairos campaign will force you to fight liggers, the most boring faction to fight, no matter what
>starts at war with Teclis and if they expand along the Wastes, runs into Aislinn, HElves being the second most boring faction to fight
>cant AR any of this because AR undervalues your entire army so forced to fight boring battles back to back
>Changeling campaign is basically a baby mode tutorial level for an entirely different game
>impossible to lose
Egrimm will hopefully fix the faction with a better start than Kairos and not being as bullshit as Changeling
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>>555728102
>Elspeth nonsense is useless
lol
lmao
The Hellrocket buffs alone can carry a campaign wtf are you doing if you think her options aren't strong as fuck?
>Best Mage options
Yes, they can cover anything and everything and Empire is indisputably one of the best magic factions in the game on top of all their other advantages.
>Best guns is Skaven
False, Empire gunlines will win VS rats and rats also have to contend with Empires superior cav which makes any fight between them a foregone conclusion. Dwarves don't even come close to having the gunline of Empire.
>Best Cav
Is still Bretonnia followed by Empire, don't know what the fuck you're smoking to think otherwise.
Karl and Volkmar have other factions nearby that Chaos may prioritize over them. Actual "you're gonna fight Chaos out the gate and there's no way around it" factions are the ones I already mentioned.
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>>555728786
>builds a doomrocket
Mhm, cool helstorm u got there. Really powerful.
No, their mages are trash. Don't even get vamp or skaven magic.
Empire guns can't even win against gnoblars.
No, bretonnia is a cav faction but very very low. Empire is non existent. There is not a single cav army that can kill rot knights. A rot knight stack eats 10 armies at once easily.
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Which campaign is more fun, Elspeth, Gelt, or Karl Franz?
I'm itching for some gunpowder shenanigans, I was playing dwarves with the intention of taking over the Donut but by the time I got there, it was full of zombies and degenerate crab people
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>>555729454
Realistically, you shouldn't be able to shoot bows or crossbows over a wall to enemies on the other side because you can't see over the wall. But just park them near the wall and turn on fire at will and they will shoot and hit things.
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>>555729067
Helstorms with Elspeths buffs are flat out the best artillery units in the game and it isn't even close. I have no idea why you think Empire not having access to two of the weaker Lores in this game is a bad thing, this isn't TWW2 where Winds Of Death could take out entire armies anymore, and the Skavens lore was and is still one of the bottom three lores in the game. Also Bretonnia really is 100% the best cav faction, Knights Of The Realm stacks alone can beat any army in the game.
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Rating how kino the 40k campaigns will be
Guard = S tier classic total war
Marines = D tier, Nakai-tier horde faction shenanigans for retards to auto resolve settlements with their marinemanni stacks
Orcs = B tier, if like WHTW orcs then they will be funny but quickly boring
Eldar = F or S tier depending on how cool the non-map painting campaign objectives they teased will be
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>>555731267
You mean how easy they have it for recruiting? Tamurkhan starts with 2 and thats all you need for the earlygame because they can and will beat everything without taking many losses due to regen and since he has an easy time winning you can easily rush the Rot Knight building to recruit even more and win every engagement. You not being able to play one of the easiest characters in WH3 doesnt stop Tamurkhan and Rot Knights from being OP as fuck.
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>>555732397
Can't agree there, they chose the factions with the most possible expressions and lore behind them so the amount of variety possible is the greatest it can be. Hopefully they don't even bother adding new races until TWW:40K 2 and just fully flesh out and detail the factions we initially get instead.
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>>555733063
At least Skaven fit the setting unlike the Tau
>everyone has a fucked up society with constant struggles
>BUT NOT THE TAU BECAUSE THEIR SOCIETY IS SOMEHOW MORE ADVANCED AND INTELLIGENT TO NOT HAVE THAT HAPPEN
>everyone has taken multiple losses throughout their time in the 40k setting
>BUT NOT THE TAU WHO SOMEHOW EXPLODED IN POPULATION TO 100 PLANETS FROM A FEW DOZEN BECAUSE UNEXPLAINED REASONS
>Everyone has strained relations with each other because of xenophobia and differences in ambition, alliances are rare between races
>BUT NOT THE TAU WHO SOMEHOW CAN BEFRIEND EVERY RACE AND THE RACES ARE OK WITH THEM
Literal anti-grimdark race thats forced harder than Marines are to fit in when they clearly do not
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>>555734627
A game without an evil race, yay. Total peacehammer or rather total war beat up the retard cause the 2 human factions and the eldar will ally and then stomp the joke faction, the orks and that's it.
I'm so fucking excited.
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>>555734661
I still maintain that tau should've just been the minor xenos coalition race with tau units themselves being just a generic battleline to tie together all the weird and wacky shit. The grimdark comes from being a sci-fi UN that has no power to actually stop its auxiliary allies from doing heinous shit and ends up just empowering them because they pay lip service to the greater good.
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>>555734961
They were meant to stay a minor race until 6th edition and then all the stupid shit that got added, like their Riptide armour being anti-anti armor and being able to shrug off Deathstrike Missiles which can bring down Titans.
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>>555734946
The Eldar and the Imperium despise each other and any alliances have always been temporary alliances of convenience and desperation with both sides plotting to stab the other in the back from the outset. And there are plenty of ways you can write the Space Marines and the IG ending up in conflict with each other.
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>>555735109
Being a clown faction doesn't make you evil. They are just autists that get shitstomped. Just a minor faction.
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>>555735597
Yes, the same way snikch allies lokhir, archaon vassalizes boris, tamurkhan allies kholek.. his fucking starting enemy.. and noctilus sucks on morathis and nkaris tits.
My dude, the orks are the hurr durr ear faction and this is total war. Eldar and muhreen xisters will ally.
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>>555734661
>ratfag doesn't understand the tau
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>>555734946
From what they've said the Eldar won't be map painting like the other factions. They said that at the start of each campaign the Eldar will receive a set of objectives to complete that will take them into conflict with other factions. So you could be beating up Orks and winning, but the Eldar saw a portent that your largest stack must die to save the galaxy, so they will just jump you. The eldar are going to be like wood elves without anything tying them down, just appearing anywhere and raping you
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>>555735843
>Orks
>Just a minor faction
They're one of the biggest threats to the Imperium at large and have a much better chance of getting total victory outside of any other alien threat outside of Chaos itself (and even then that's just because of writer fiat since Chaos is destined to win no matter what).
And no, there is no way Eldar will ally with Space Marines in TWW 40K, it actually shouldn't even be possible to engage in diplomacy between the two factions if they do it right.
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>>555735949
They are about as evil as a nurgling. Just a "poopoopeepee hurr we stupid hehe" faction. Fantasy orks are cool but 40k ones are just there for comedic relief.
>>555736465
The AI doesn't use player mechanics. It never has. They won't be doing fucking anything besides take some planets.. and since the orks attack everything they share a common enemy with the muhreens. Simple as.
Ever seen golgfag travel the world? Maybe Arbaal? Ever seen tomb niggers hunt the books? Skarbrand chaining attacks? No. They don't and the eldar won't either. They will be none high elf faction that allies the humies.
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>>555736652
Read this, >>555736904 I'm not writing a 2nd essay.
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>>555736904
But that's the other way around. 40k Orks are more sophisticated, have numerous Kulturs, can be hired as mercs and are smart enough to use enslaved humans for labour.
Fantasy Orcs are just evil and plain generic savages. Everything that is cool about Greenskins is everything BUT the Orcs. Especially bad are Black Orcs, which are just green Chaos Warriors.
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>>555737681
I've played a few 40k games like the dawn of wars and the chess games and such.. it's always the same. Orks are drooling retards that like farting and have retarded proportions to look funny. They flail around like morons and talk like someone who had a stroke.
I'm not taking that clown faction serious.
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>>555738417
Well, I'll be stuck with that faggot franchise for probably 5 years if I get bored of warhammer 3 so I have no other choice if I want more content.
It's a shame that 40k is absolute /lgbt/ slop compared to fantasy. Only fun thing is tyranids.
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>>555738417
Of course, it was always serious
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They talk this same in both settings, they have more depth in 40k
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>>555734661
The entire premise behind the Tau is
>what if the clearly best and objective good guys race was so utterly irrelevant that the moment they gathered even 1% attention from literally anyone they would be immediately wiped out?
But then that concept wasn't grimdark and hopeless enough so now they are actually secretly just as bad as everyone else on top of their irrelevancy.
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>>555739642
>Tau
>best
>objective Good guys
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>>555742957
Yeah by any objective moral standard the T'au are the most virtuous faction in the setting. You would certainly be better off as a citizen of their worlds than being anywhere else, unless you are lucky enough to be one of the top 0.5% of the Imperium that actually gets to live a good life.
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>>555743448
How are they any better than Eldars ?
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>>555743643
Eldar are disqualified as being moral off of the Dark Eldar alone. Even beyond that, even the Craftworld Eldar are genocidal racial supremacists that believe their race should still rule over the galaxy and consider anyone that isn't an Eldar to be beneath them. I mean, they're not really wrong, but by the moral standards used today they are evil for taking such a stance. The T'au meanwhile are more than willing to integrate other alien species into their plans as long as they sign on. The T'au are basically just 40Ks version of Star Treks Federation, which is about as milquetoast and good aligned as you can get in a setting like 40K.
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>>555737140
I dunno... I hated warhammer 2 because I couldn't figure combat out at all, but I'm having fun with 3 and doing pretty good.
I think once you get the hang of a few things (formations, line of sight, the flanking rules the game doesn't tell you, what stats actually mean (the game doesn't tell you), unit types and roles) you can do pretty well
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>>555739642
>so now they are actually secretly just as bad as everyone else
They're not tho
The tau empire employs morally questionable mothods for TODAY, but they're still not that bad even for today too, much less 40k standards
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>>555743643
The eldar simply do not value non-eldar life much at all
The tau do though. They'll kill you for practical reasons still but an eldar will kill noneldar like they're bugmen. They regret it and all sometimes but just a little bit.
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>>555744904
That's the thing though, everyone's looking out for themselves, they're all different empires
Warmongering is going to happen, the eldar don't do it sure but they also kill a fuckton of people (people in general not just humans I mean) just because "farseer said so" without telling anyone a thing
The votann at least negotiate, the tau at least give you a chance to join
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>>555745853
Feb 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5-ICga0QhA
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>>555748642
Lionheart does long campaigns. Very long campaigns. His Rome 2 Dei campaign is currently on part 96 with each part being ~1 hour long. But if your a fantasyfag his latest completed series is a 28 part Aislinn campaign.
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>>555754196
undertake the deliberate and contractually mediated acquisition of a formally designated promotional placement, wherein pecuniary resources are exchanged through negotiated commercial mechanisms for the temporary yet strategically calculated allocation of communicative space or time, with the express intent of disseminating a crafted persuasive message to a predefined or statistically inferred audience within a broader marketplace of attention.
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>>555760454
chaos hates eachother
>>555761936
none of the demons use guns because they're made out of pure emotion and guns don't really fit that kind of primal profile
demonic artillery is all living beings, they are the guns
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>>555762935
A sword isn't a living being either, but daemons have those
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>>555763989
Chapter 8, line 24 of the book of khrone so do sayeth
>You are a pussy ass motherfucker if you don't feel blood splatter on your face during combat but motorcycles are radical so strapping a gun to one is okay
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>>555778290
Anon, please. We're overworked
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>>555779202
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>>555725542
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>>555527712
>Kill Chaos edition
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