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1st for ahri braincells

lmao that combo where they fall all the way down while caitlyn just stands still aiming her gun at the ground to otg is sick

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Corner to midscreen to corner.
Idk how you guys can hate Ekko he's the sauce that makes this game saucy.

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https://x.com/Play2XKO/status/2016949629376712831?s=20
>they want to make duos easier to find, possibly duo queue eventually?
>they really want to change how the game plays and are planning on making big changes to how the game currently plays
They didn't mention combo length this time, so I'm guessing they want to make defense stronger?
Reposting for new thread

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The frame perfect skin also has a character code option, that makes it the fifth skin already with an alt look

>>555646425
i think this section
>You all have pushed our champions and systems well beyond their limits, and it has been exciting and a little terrifying to see. While 2XKO’s core gameplay systems are flexible and allow for a ton of creativity, those same systems are unfortunately making the game feel way too sharp and overwhelming for some players. As a result, you can expect us to take some big swings towards allowing players to get back to the action more quickly and also making interactions more intuitive in general
is that statement but it could read that way
that having been said i really hope they don't just make it to where you build burst even faster or push block is stronger or anything. with how many zoners i fight, it's already annoying enough, and the top tiers ignore those mechanics already anyway

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>>555646425
nah, they used coded language
>you can expect us to take some big swings towards allowing players to get back to the action more quickly and also making interactions more intuitive in general.
being 'out of the action' means to be watching your opponent combo you
they're going to gut the fun out of the game for me

>>555647028
Stop worshipping plastic and realize they copy all their music from americans. Grow up.

>>555646425
what "show off the ass" skins do Jinx and Illaoi have

>>555647085
you can't prove that they're not actually sweet

>>555634496
>>555635369
That's what happens when americans have been playing the game for two years now
don't get me wrong, Japan used to get the same advantage

>>555647631
it's probably way more just that Japan's scene for the game as a whole is weaker
if you're stronger than all your peers and weaker than all the overseas players, it's hard to get the experience you need to keep up at a major

I hate Darius so much

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>>555647085
>/mu/ talk
Post chart
https://youtu.be/ONYhPrOl5EU?si=DBJmk1yAMwKWpNLz

>>555647085
even if kpop rips off of wpop, they tend to have a higher hit rate for songs i find enjoyable
also, we love plastic around here

>>555648351
even though he beat trundle for us? ungrateful

swear i just had a bug where my heavy button wasn't working
i tabbed out to confirm it did work elsewhere

dear shit gen

>>555654883
*dead

>>555654883
>>555655010
bro typed 3 words and got one wrong
cringe

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I keep getting sidetracked every other time I go into training mode

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i know what you mean

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>>555657679

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Oh for the person asking about riot's stance on bugs, they do ban the egregious ones actually, I forgot the infinite teemo parachute bug was still in the game kek
I still need to get around to doing it in a match and trying to farm rage quits

>>555660531
>I forgot the infinite teemo parachute bug
teach me how to do this so i can do it next time i get matched with yasekko instead of performing the emotional labor of trying to play a match against yasekko

>>555646373
God this looks so unfun

>>555646373
>Idk how you guys can hate Ekko
it's easy, i fight him every single day

>>555660627
It's been a while, but I think it's just set up a bush and light it on fire with 2H while you're outside of it, then immediately jump parachute into it/ parachute while you're in it (don't remember)
It was a little finicky, but not that hard to do, and you could even set it up round start with like jinx double down laser super to buy some time to set up

>>555646996
Sure sounds like 30 second combos are going.

>>555663234
idk how they'll accomplish it without just making the game really lame though

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>>555646996
They could be considering a change to freestyle and active tag/sandwich shenanigans, that stuff is probably the least comprehensible for a newbie
They lead to some of the longest blockstrings in the game if done fully and are barely reactable for most, hugely centralizing as the core part of what's probably the strongest part of yas and ekko in teambuilding, and can barely be interacted with since the main defense options push block/burst gets cucked by freestyle and ekko just rewinding

>play in final closed beta
>was a back and forth period of wins and losses
>play on release
>constant 7-10 win streaks
why? I suck. are playstation players this free?

>>555665041
it's a shame because freestyle is by far the most creative + unique thing in this game but it's also so outrageously strong + the strongest characters of course make better use of it than anyone else so it's def gotta be toned down somehow
the thing is, how do you even do that? make it cost meter or some shit?

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>>555665458
Meter for freestyle use sounds like a decent idea actually
Juggernaut eject and double down super tag also cost meter, and you can get similar mix results off of both, it'd also cuck ekko even more from using his supers, I remember several situations where ekko was running out of bar during duos frosty

>>555668709
either that or just straight up lock you out of using supers after handshake tagging or tag launching in a combo. half the reason these stupid skd meme combos are even possible is just certain extra-privileged characters get to use five billion level 1s in one combo

>>555664089
I think they really should've thought about that before making this shit into a tag fighter while bragging about it being good for noobs. Can't have your cake and eat it too bro.

>>555670003
All this cause they wanted to "capture the team feeling of League"

>>555670003
i've seen plenty of "first ever fighting game, loving it! pulse combos make me feel like i'm really playing the game!" type posts, and i think noob vs noob is prob fine. combos and pressure don't get that fucked until you're way higher ranked than most of these people will ever reach anyway

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>>555669760
Skd combos and cait's expert combo trials arent' the problem in regular competitive gameplay timmy, and neither is most of this freestyle stuff super relevant for noobs
I was in plat making this webm against an unranked like lvl 25 braum in casuals, I'm a bigger bogeyman for noobs than anything in frosty

>>555670874
my post wasn't about noobs my post was about "if they want to lower combo length they could potentially do this or that"

>>555670874
Sorry I read the other post about noobs and lumped you in with them without thinking, the message is mostly directed at them, I should have tagged them instead
I don't think combo length is a huge issue, I think skd has said he made a point of using darius a lot because people say he isn't privileged and is sauceless
Besides, there's functionally no difference between a long 30 second tod and the like 15 second braum/blitz tod or basic bnb in fury that can be done with half the effort, you still get punished for losing neutral either way while they have resources

I'm tired and rambling and can barely reply to the right posts, forgive

>>555671884
the key difference is that you'd be staring at the other person's combo for half the duration

>>555672892
That long combo video only chipped for like 20% of his health before he ran into me, so i need them to stare at me for two minutes though

>>555673138
why are you trying to ragebait me at 3 am :/

>>555671884
>I don't think combo length is a huge issue
Right, but the devs have outright said it's an issue still

i need to take a break again... my salt levels aren't recovering enough between sessions, i'm getting annoyed too fast whenever i play

>>555671884
>Besides, there's functionally no difference between a long 30 second tod and the like 15 second braum/blitz tod
There's a huge functional difference, are you fucking retarded? One of them takes 15 seconds longer, that's the entire issue. Huge damage or lots of hits in a combo isn't the reason why most people hate long combos, it's the fact that combos are the least interactive and therefore the most boring thing in fighters. The longer combos are, the more time you spend either playing single player or not playing at all, neither of which people want to do when playing a multiplayer game unless they are brain-damaged fighting game players who actively want the least interactive multiplayer experience.

>>555678584
>unless they are brain-damaged fighting game players who actively want the least interactive multiplayer experience
literally the audience for marvel games. The people hold that dogshit game to such a high regard, so much so that its influenced fgs in the most negative ways possible. Sad thing is, the people who regard it in such high esteem don't, and have never, actually played the game

lmao long combos are **the** shit man
not my fault youre retarded executionlets or play on wifi! haha

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>>555678749
LIGHT PUNCHING this post

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*hits you with an 8 hit combo + limit strike for 55% of your health + oki*

>>555645490
I love how anybody with a ranged ability focus in this game or a character with on really good ranged attack just starts to spam it the moment they realize they can't fight close or mid.

i'm trying to do ahri expert 5 and i've got the whole first chunk of it down, but i cannot get her to jump fast enough after super 1 to connect the j.l>j.l
do i not just hold up after the animation?

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>>555682393
never mind i hit that shit
good night tuko

Weeklies give a lil more credit now but spiked in difficulty due to needing unnecessary bs like playing Illaoi
They used to be play 30 games/week, deal 10k damage aka 10 kills stuff you would get 100% on accident

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>>555682393
just tried it out
i hate these kinds of combos, where they're subject to time-based hitstun scaling
getting the jL solely comes down to doing the previous parts fast enough

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>>555683457
okay so i lied, i stayed up another 20 minutes making it more consistent but now i can hit it pretty comfortably
i will not kneel to you ahriqueens but i will nod in respect, this bnb is fucking annoying to hit
good night for real now, tuko

>>555684525
yeah i don't like that, but i ended up just playing juggernaut and sidekick in casuals and getting it over with regardless

>>555684665
oh THAT'S that problem? eesh i straight up just assumed she didn't like me and that's why she wouldn't jump in time

>>555684745
yep, i'd personally avoid doing that much for a super1 route for consistency
gn

I swear wawa is sandbagging duo's/sideevents to win the bracket that actually matters

Once you hit Master rn losing to diamonds is -15 and +7 crazy weird because yesterday losing to Emeralds as Diamond was -3 +20

>>555687115
He can prove it this weekend but being da best 2025 is an achievment trophy already

So what should I be doing as Illaoi/Yasuo to make these weeklies go by quicker?

>>555696952
illaoi can combo into super1 off of practically anything
it's really big damage

>>555697569
Nice. What do the tentacles from Super 2 do? Just slap alongside certain attacks?

>>555697912
super2 activation spawns two (?) tentacles
then all onscreen tentacles slap three times in a predefined interval

>>555702390
t. yasuo ekko freestyle player

>>555697912
>What do the tentacles from Super 2 do?
Absolutely nothing if you are unlucky ;^)

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new cuties..

>>555704050
he doesn't even play a set team
the absolute chad
i'm in a lobby with bronze and silvers

>>555705090
1/5 wins is Emerald 1 already

Riot released a crazy tag fighter, a niche genre of fighters that appeals to a subset of fighting game players and puts off non tag people and non crazy people
however, now they want to nerf combo length and probably freestyle (after already having nerfed tag cooldown), both of which appeals to their players and won't bring in the people that do not enjoy tag or 64 way loopable layered mix
I just don't see the vision
I remember Diaphone telling them to stick to a vision instead of doing knee jerk sweeping changes from feedback (beta1>2)
I didn't agree much with it back then but it seems like a big issue now

For the juggernaut bros, not a lot of videos out there for you guys
https://youtu.be/e6n13IHMF8U?si=C6J8IrBxRXkbhtEK

Thank fuck leffen is on Cait, having to watch diaphone try to play her was so tragic

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even the devs admit they have no actual vision and the game only released because Riot got tired of them spending a decade doing nothing.

Screen tearing during FF because they can't be bothered to fix the PS5 version yet...

https://www.youtube.com/live/Izs2BOX-ei0
there's not a single person watching
all chairs are empty
what the fuck

>>555710313
It makes far more sense once you understand that the developer/publisher isn't a single person. Having a singular lead developer with an unifying vision who gets to make all the calls who also has enough clout to shut down any demands a publisher might make is extremely rare, especially in the west. The design seems schizophrenic and chaotic because there are multiple people trying to achieve vastly different and often contradictory things.

A literal boomer is playing on stream against what looks to be either a femboy or a masculine woman. Never seen anything so analogous for the tuko playerbase

i fell out of master, bros..

>>555710313
Riot isn't actually making this game, it's the Cannon brothers, but they are no doubt told by Riot to make it for everyone even though the Cannons and co want to make a degenerate marvel clone, they barely give a fuck about league as an ip too

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>>555715689

>>555715403
Old bro just showed up to mash some buttons and fuck around, I don't think he's ever played 2xko before
Based honestly, I'd like to just wander around conventions entering random games for fun

How do I stop losing to Vi?

What's wrong with the stream, the screen keeps tearing. They've been running the same tournament for years, how come they still have such technical issues?

>>555719402
It's not the stream, it's the game. They're playing on PS5. >>555714382

Illaoi looks cool. But I'm too stupid to play her.

>>555719402
There's random black screens when there isn't a game going on in the youtube stream lol, somethings wrong on their end too

>>555715403
player names?

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>>555720929
I went back and it turns out the old bro had some controller issues so there wasn't much to watch unfortunately, maybe if they show him on stream again he'll put up a better showing, their match was about an hour 20 minutes back in the stream

>>555722626
>>555715403
Just looks like a guy with long hair to me, femboy seems a bit extreme.
also is that yipes in the front row or what

>>555646425
>game is oficially out for 1 week
>actually, we really hate how this game plays and want to change it

how fucking retarded are these devs? you had 6 fucking years to change the game, its too late now

quite a few things show this game wasn't ready for release
like when TOs are spectating matches. when the match ends it's a janky looking screen that bugs out half the time

i'm so fucking glad that they are changing the course, it seems riot is intervening for good. Now the game has a real chance to success, unironically

>>555727435
Really? I thought that they made the intentional decision to release a tag fighter with only 10 characters as a brilliant marketing move. I never would have thought they were forced to put the game out before the end of 2025.

BIG NEWS
Top tier yas ekko wawa got sent to losers by Darius illaoi

>>555728518
https://x.com/dekillsage/status/2017292677570511304?s=20

>>555729060
>Crocs n Socks
Didn't know he played this, I ran into him one time playing Xrd and he left after winning 1 match. I guess this is the new ex-anime game player honeypot.

>>555714413
frosty is a small tournament please understand

>>555722626
>his tag is da_ole_man80
holy fucking based

>>555729060
Oh wawa was on ekko Warwick actually woah, I don't think I've ever seen him play that team

Watching this tournament makes me realize how truly dogshit I am at this game.

>>555728518
we're reaching levels of gap not previously thought possible

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>>555733545
You'll get there Anon. I believe!

>>555719587
It's wild how the fgc community just keeps sticking to the PS5 when it's consistently the worst way to play a fighting game rn.

>>555736723
It's just easier to carry in a console vs. a whole-ass gaming PC.

is there a way to turn off connecting with console players? Its been a couple days and I cant take these faggots playing on their laggy overheating console with wifi

dude this is insane, this is winners pools? dropped combos and bad neutral everywhere? my ass should have signed up and flown out

>>555737616
You'll miss out on a huge if not the majority playerbase in the long run considering console is the standard for fighting games.

>>555737878
I legit dont give a single fuck. Id be more than happy to turn off crossplay until I get back to GM because for whatever reason low level players are incapable of accessing good internet with a physical wire

These people are making me wanna pick up Blitz. Like holy hell it looks fun

>>555738919
blitz is super fun when you're winning
crazy enough that guy didn't go for a single restand

>>555737878
because it's cheaper and easier to set up, PCs can introduce tons of issues trying to attach controllers, PS5s are an easy standard to fit, just get a ps5 adapter, also pc parts prices are running away so yeah consoles it is.
Whats crazy is how 2xko screentears so much despite not being a demanding game at all, the port is just that bad

>>555739329
Sounds like my kinda character. I live and die by momentum

i only watched this hour or so of games but i didn't notice all this screen tearing ive been hearing about

>>555740904
same, desu
to me it's just 'idk that's what a livestream looks like'

Tuco bros they finally realized nobody but like 100 people like our tag kusoge.....

Lmao fucking retards have literally no idea what they're doing. Way to listen to clockwork bro. Dumbass Cannon niggas LMAO

>>555737878
What year did you come from? Console hasn't been the standard for like over a decade. Only locals use consoles because of the ease of setting up, for almost all fighters PC is the platform with most players. The only exception is MK.

>>555742625
They really thought that co-op would make people stomach 1000 year combos and 8-way mix of any hit.

2winz about to play

>>555744193
For playing at home consolefags are the majority, not at locals/tourneys

>>555745041
This. Not to mention it seems like PC players don't even want to play with the amount of bitching over Vanguard.

>>555745041
No they aren't, consoles have been the minority ever since covid. You can easily see this on any game that has cross-play like SF6 or Strive, majority of players will be on PC.

>>555744979
almost lost to teemo again lol, good set
I think they had a duo specific happy birthday combo

>>555746209
that shit was crazy lol
watching w my roomie who doesnt play and he goes "why do the devs think thats ok"

>>555744345
>1000 year combos and 8-way mix of any hit.
is unironically the only good thing this game has got going for it. Go back to sf niggerscrub

>>555742625
>>555744345
explain why it has the most viewers on twitch right now out of any frosty stream

>>555747794
Because nobody wants to PLAY tagshit. Watching it is different

Nitro my king.... how could you lose

>>555747885
it was a heartbreaker, too
literally would've won if he'd had like 1/8 more meter for the otg to kill at the end of his last combo

>>555747871
Tbf isn't that the same for all fighters? Tekken was fun to watch, but miserable to play.

>>555747871
>NOOOOOO THE TWITCH VIEWS ARE BAD GAME DEAD
>actually it's the most-watched game at frosty's thus far
>NOOOOOOO NOBODY PLAYS IT
>actually you can get matches very quickly at all hours of the day
uh oh doomsissy is caught in a loop

>>555747871
Are you stupid

Have you guys encountered anyone who bought any skins? Just fought an Arcane Vi and Jinx myself

yea, me
i thought i was gonna hardcore whale in this game,
but ngl, it's way too much money for these expensive ass bundles

>>555751930
There's a secret code to use Arcane skins without buying them. You hold down and both assists after picking them on character select screen irrc.
But yeah I've ran into a lot of skin users.

>>555751271
>>555749190
Tagnigger COPE

>>555747794
twitch views mean something now?

>>555752335
!!! oooooh yeas

>>555752335
Actually it's both specials and assist. And you have to do it every time on the rematch screen too

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I'll give 2xko this, Ahri is hot.

>>555753482
She's hotter in her real game

>>555753482
Her breasts are much smaller in game

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>>555753482
Many are saying this

>>555762534
giwtwm

>>555752335
>>555753006
ah it only works when you already had it, im dumb

>>555764924
Does it? I saw people saying it works but I can't get it working

can you guys tell me why they didn't make a 3d game? like with valo, they looked at how tact shooters is very very popular but it's due to CS being the big dog that's carrying the genre so there's still room for 1 more, why couldn't they apply that same logic to tekken and 3d fighting games? why limit their appeal by making a tag fighter?

>>555771081
>3d fighters
>mass appeal
good joke LOL

>>555737352
No I get that but why the PS5? Yeah everybody has one but they fucking suck for fighters. I mean it's embarrassing how bad they play on there.

>>555772386
not as good of a joke than your dead shit game

>>555772491
Because Sony is effectively the standard when it comes to consoles now. They sponsored evo for years.
PS5s are reliable, they're cheap, they're lightweight and easy to set up. You tell everyone to make sure their controllers work with PS5 and you're set.
They're perfect for the logistics of running a big tournament.

>>555773042
I guess you'd know about dead. SC, DoA, VF, and slowly Tekken.

>>555774146
at least those had a shelf life and weren't stillborn like 2xko
maybe try dunking on cotwies

ahri skin sales alone have made more money than your garbage lol

>>555773264
Idk if I'd call the ps5 reliable (at least after a year before the fans get clogged and overheat it because why the fuck not). Also again, so many fighting games just flat out run worse on the ps5 and the pro version than other consoles and pc

Lmao Chrisg dropped to losers then immediately tweeted saying he quit 2xko
https://x.com/Chez_ib/status/2017414844509569461?s=20

>>555783569
Fighting games are made by Japanese. Japanese play Playstation. Simple as.

>>555778224
wow, what % is that towards recouping the costs of the 10 year dev cycle + undisclosed studio buyout?

>>555783832
fgc oldheads love talking shit about how new players are soft and new games are too easy and then get bopped and immediately drop the game and call it shit
sad!

>>555785968
>call it shit
you can call him a hypocrite for being a MvC slop eater, but you can't call him a liar

>>555786304
2XKAMI
2XKINO
2XKINGS

>doing random combo trials for chars i don't play
god i'm so glad darius doesn't bother with partial charges in his combos

>>555789713
finally hit illaoi expert 5
jesus christ it would be so much easier if they had info in them like "delay this hit, then do this one as quickly as possible"
i don't really wanna do jinx's or vi's so i guess i'll try yasuo's next

>>555771081
>can you guys tell me why they didn't make a 3d game?
Because the devs are a bunch of Mahvel fans who wanted to make Mahvel 4 with the serial numbers filed off. Mahvel isn't 3D, it's that simple.

honestly a 3d fighter or even an arena fighter like the nardo games would have been cool but they wanted to make a game that could be played competitively

>>555785958
you know its funny to think about because the average riot salary per year is 140k, and a game team this size can be like 50 people if we're being very conservative, that's 70100000 usd in just salary assuming all of them worked all years, no doubt tons of them were contractors with no health benefits or just worked shortterm but still, thats a lot of ahri skins needing to be sold

>>555645490
I think Ekko players need to be lynched

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>>555793295
that's true

nigger no one plays 3d or arena fighters. They are way more dead than 2d games. The last 3d fighter standing is tekken 8 and even that is doing badly and universally hated

>>555793295
sorry can't lynch a black man in the year 2016+10 so he gets to stay top tier

>>555794436
No ekko himself has to watch anybody that plays him be lynched

>>555792689
Tekken 8 Season 2 (pre patch) is more competitive than whatever the fuck this is

>>555794562
i was thinking something more in line with soul calibur since every character in this game has a weapon

>>555792689
Yeah because it's impossible to make a competitive arena fighter, those are just fundamentally broken and unbalanced. One overpowered broken character always just spawns in without the devs getting a say. Shame since otherwise it might be a decent genre.

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good night tuko

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>>555794407
*ahem*

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game blowing up on chink island

>>555791726

You can watch the cpu doing it and see for yourself.

>>555785968

I get his point. New games tend to have easy to access high powerlevel, while doing everything they can to skip neutral/fundamentals. The latter is where fgc pros excel, not execution.
Personally, I always enjoyed watching Marvel 3 pros for the movement. Avatar has the potential to be hella fun to watch down the line.

so 2xko is going to change dramatically through patching? the development of this game is such a mystery man

>>555783569
You can reasonably expect a PS5 to just work out of the box though. When you need something to just work and you don't want to have to worry about it crashing in a big tournament setting then in that specific instance PS5's are better.

>>555808827
They had a vastly different prototype that was 1v1, so I'm not surprised. I personally think they shouldn't have done convention demos and just released the game as a public beta once the quality was acceptable. I don't doubt this game was playtested to hell and back but they completely missed the mark on Ekko's powerlevel in particular. His gimmicks + freestyle with no compromise on damage is just not interesting beyond sociopaths who love high octane gameplay. Not that Teemo's rampage was any better. Yasuo is also a problem but I think without Ekko having a monopoly on rushdown (hopefully) maybe other characters can compete better with him.

>>555800723
lmao, they're literally paying the taiwanese influencers to play the game until february 28th when this season of ghost master-apprentice series ends. and they're back to playing another street fighter season (the 5th one) right after 2xko ends.
riot announced a series of tournaments in japan with big money on the line and they only have 10 signups so far

don't be fooled, the servers in east asia are still a ghost town

Who's a good Jinx to watch out for in this tournament?

Can we all agree blitzcrank ***NEEDS*** a damage nerf? Like holy molly
huge health, huge damage, command throws
WHAT CANT THIS NIGGA DO?

>>555813663
If they show Chrisg, he's on jinx

>>555813663
There's few Jinx players at all man.

Jakeythesnakey
Opal (who dropped her)
ChrisG (who picked her back up)

Everyone else sucks.

>>555817212
>>555814284
Alright thanks.

>>555814184
>WHAT CANT THIS NIGGA DO?
win neutral against any character

>>555819364
This literally doesnt matter in a tag game.

>>555819463
i mean shit dude there's a reason nobody plays him

>>555819463
Hop on blitz or braum Lil bro and find out what it takes to get in on some people

>>555819901
Because they are literally shit. Cant you see the dude in the tournament literally using it and killing people in barely a combo?

>>555819923
>>555819901
Are you FUCKING RETARDED?
you dont need to get in with him
just use your other champ,get in, handshake and combo someone for 80% of their life right? so fair bro!!!

>>555769913
Yeah I believe it's for removing Jinx's hood and Ekko's mask and probably something else for Vi, but it's for that

>>555821012
just saying you would learn real fast the difference between playing 2 characters that are good and 1 character that's good. and also everyone in this game can two touch so calling him "high damage" is just gaslighting

>>555821012
Don't worry, I have just the video to jump scare casual timmies like you that have never opened the f2p game
>>555670874

we watching that type lumina?

>>555821667
How is blitz not good, his combos are way higher and easier to hit than anyone else's.

>>555822214
It's top 8 rn

>>555822406
he's very slow without any defensive options. he's 100% dependent on his assist to get anything going. he can't handshake out if he whiffs command grab, whereas the better characters can handshake if anything goes wrong during their pressure. he also doesn't have the type of high/low/throw pressure that the stronger characters have, being limited to low/throw. he also struggles more vs push block (it is much harder to get back in as blitz after getting pushed vs like any other character) and doesn't have a good low to punish retreating guard with, either
he does have plenty of strong points including his high damage, his assists being really good now that they've been buffed, and enabling restands for the other champ on your team, but again: you could play "a strong point + a weaker assist" or you could just play two strong champs

>>555823045
game looks fucked up lol

>>555823276
This all just sounds like cope for the character who hard carries you, scrub.

>>555823376
then play him a bit dude idk what to tell you

>>555823446
I do.

>>555823548
oh worm?

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>>555824028
Yes.

Frankly i am considering dropping the game for a while. It seems obvious they want to change the game alot.

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Briar doko

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>>555821575
It takes off her jacket

>>555827105
damn vi why you keeping this from the bros

>Wake up
>no stream
Did I miss it already what the hell?

>>555831694
on after melty top 8 i'm pretty sure

These voices are kinda low

>>555831728
Oh okay cool. Thanks Anon!

K7 wandering around live streaming frosty
Never been to one of these, looks pretty cozy to wander around and watch people play

>>555832629
It's cool for about 20 minutes and then it's boring.

>>555832629
majors are practically full-on conventions at this point
looks pretty fun but at this point in my life i feel old and don't wanna go get beat up by random teenagers

>>555830262
bitch got child bearing hips and became a dyke sad

>>555795746
good ol' 5m
nothing beats that

>>555808827
the devs say they want to change things
so far the changes have been very mild
not only we do not know, i doubt they know it themselves
>>555810989
ekko feels like he was built with 2xko in mind while darius was a leftover they worked with from the 1v1 days
somewhat

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>>555833585
>i feel old
>t.

>>555837569
he was born in the olden days of tagslop
molded by it

>>555837569
He was 10 years old when they announced 2XKO

>>555837420
i think it feels the other way around. darius and other characters feel like they were designed to need an extra character to cover for them, whereas ekko and yasuo just do everything and dont need a team

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ahri + blitzcrank?

>>555837420
>>555840128
Darius, Blitz, Braum are DNF duel characters
Ekko and Yas are Blazblue CF or GGXX characters
Everyone else is a marvel character

>>555837569
Those are some rough 46
That's why you shouldn't do video games

Wawa lost in pools to some dude named crocs and socks? Niggas told me he was unbeatable

>>555846640
crocs then immediately got sent to losers next match kek

>zando is from israel
/our guy/

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Zando plays Vi like a freak man
Guy just gambles on everything but its so clean

Israeli Mind Control destroyed my guy K7

Who is designed futa or 2xko?
>no illaoi or vi

>>555851147
jeff? you are alive?

>>555851147
>>555850659
frankly, jinx being a futa is hotter.
Imagine the small, cute futa with a huge schlong dominating her mommy energy muscle mommy older sister?
HOT AS FUCK

Hikari also got sent to losers
Na bros, I'm not feeling so good...

Ikoan jp bro secretly a dark horse in losers, knocked out chrisg and wawa

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Been watching a lot of matches it's getting me hype like maybe I should get back into this game again.
I've been 1-gaming Deadlock though

>>555854353
Chris G isn't that good he lost to Jila.
And Jila was like a top 30 player in dbfz, doesn't have impressive results in 2xko thus far.

Blitzcrankbros are we winning

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>>555855851

>>555855851
the twins lost too lmao

I just found out the game is out now. How is it? I saw a little gameplay and it reminds me of old anime fighters where you can get full to zero'd by long combo chains.

That was so sick. Now I wanna play Jinx Warwick along with Blitz Warwick

>>555857000
It's pretty fun (to me so far) the combos are kinda like that, but the devs are trying to fight against it.

>>555857000
You can go far with just learning neutral and autocomboing into double supers

>>555857027
jinx ww looked saucy as fuck, that firework combo is cool

the extent to which ekko ruins this game is impressive and should be studied
absolutely baffling i hope they kill his fucking head off to death in the next patch like really get off their asses and FIX the fucking GAME

>>555857363
I'm gonna have to go back and watch that. Fuck I need more credits to unlock all these champs

>>555857917
Games where a single character ruins the game are never fixed by fixing the character because the character was allowed to exist in the first place by the devs, which indicates they aren't capable of making a good game. Tekken 7 wasn't fixed by fixing Leroy, GBVSR wasn't fixed by fixing Nier, DBFZ wasn't fixed by fixing Android 16/Bardock/Ratku/UI Goku/Labcoat.

>>555855851
Is that fox match on stream?

5-9 i pick strive
0-4 i pick up 2xko

doubles i pick sf6

>>555858818
fox match wasn't on stream unfortunately

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>>555860343
Welcome to the club. Fuck strive.

>>555858395
i loved ratku though

>leffen playing cait
very rare based leffen moment

>>555861531
Leffen is a massive faggot

>>555861531
i am too shy to enter the casual lobby...
why cant i just go straight to matches aaaaa?

Cait in top 24!

>2Winz vs. SonicZem
>Noon vs. Senshii
>Jakey vs PcH
>Semiij vs Zane
Theyre gonna pick like 1 match to stream and the rest will be offstream won't they

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>Lilypichu shows up
>Meets a group of girls (?)

the duo tourney rematch is on

These twins are garbagio. Like fight back a little bit!

free as fuck

They still haven't won a round vs sonicfox/inzem
Poor guys need to find some teemo players to play against

It looks so silly how far Jinx's bullets go.

Jakey making me think about picking up freestyle holey moley these setups are nasty

Y'all talk about Ekko but Illaoi is just keep me in the fucking corner

With jakey through, I think just about every character is represented in top 24 except braum

>>555865018
And fuck Caitlyn too that shit is

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>>555861824
They need matches to figure out your mmr for placements unfortunately
Have fun

Can someone answer me this, how can the opponent get fury before I do when im down to one guy? I thought it was a sort comeback mechanic so that I have a fighting chance.

>>555868250
You're probably fighting juggernaut, they play one character but get fury every time they burst

>>555868250
limit strikes build break
if you route properly you build much more resources

>>555857917
Ekko is somehow worse than release Nier
Nier was stronger, but Ekko is worse

>>555868250
fury and break are the same bar. so if you have break, and one of your characters dies, it becomes fury.

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(sajam voice) this DARIUS character is a PROBLEM *touches hair, huffs my own farts*

>>555871317
this roster causes me nausea

>>555874279
>yasuo as represented as the entire lower half of the roster combined

>>555871317
at least the ekko yases are spread out
usually they arent on the same team so thats kinda cool

Is it weird that watching frosty is way more fun than watching the online tourneys
its the exact same game but somehow it feels cooler

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Wow, it's a lot more balanced than I thought

>>555875548
majors are always more interesting and have a wider pool of players
weeklies are always the same handful of players every time

>>555875807
this is the kind of chart you make to obfuscate a statistic and make it look less disgusting than reality would show

>>555875807
12 freestyle teams, I wonder if they will bother targeting freestyle

>>555877061
i think that much how people always say "well you're not supposed to actually play the solo fuses, it's a 2v2 game," the sentiment is probably going to be "you're not supposed to use the other fuses, it's a freestyle game"

>>555871317
>ahri players scream and piss themselves and cry that the character is dead
>still the 3rd most repped character
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>555875548
It's fucking cool seeing good players show off. That guy that was playing Jinx Warwick was inspirational

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What do you actually do about this?
https://x.com/HiFightTH/status/2017748705122885923?s=20

>>555879037
lose, genuinely
the retard vimonkeys are starting to find out that they have buttons other than 5s1
just wait until they realize how strong her counter is

>>555876354
Posting teams is literally what every tag game has done since the dawn of time dude
stop jumping at shadows
Ive played bbtag where the top team was 70% ruby gordeau

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https://youtu.be/ZLbVBjVKj3w?si=KQtdkEtm4EVVDTjU
uh oh, what's your response 2xcuckos?

>>555880178
this guy is trans

>>555880464
the target audience for your dead shit game

>>555879453
propaganda or not
total ekko/yasuo/ahri death

>>555880545
>dead shit game
more alive than any fg not named sf6 or tekken so why are you friendly firing lil bro

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>>555880964
i'm not your friend, retard

>>555881265
>it's the fucking reinafag
luhROAR how come you spend all your time lurking here instead of playing tekken 8 season 2
you don't need to answer that

2xko is a better game than Tekken 8

>>555881541
that's true
it may not be saying much but it is true

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What could have been...

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>>555881893
Arcane won unfortunately

>>555881541
While this is true. They still have Heihachi over us...

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>>555882937
not even the best mishima design

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>>555883076
>Came from Heihachi balls
You owe the existence of your character to that man.

this game's so fun when the other player doesn't have meter and you can just be a dickhead at them with your normally parryable options

>>555877842
the play should probably have been to have freestyle as THE game mechanic and scrap fuses. it's pretty obvious fuses gave them a lot of trouble, likely one of the top things that consumed their time, seeing how wildly things changed (fury used to be a fuse and got turned into baseline, pulse was a fuse and got turned into a setting)
also imo i think its a bit weird to have DHC as a fuse

>>555889725
dhc as a fuse is definitely weird for a tag game
and fuses in general are a bad idea imo, but riot's biggest "stupid fucking retarded notion that they absolutely cling to no matter what" is "play your character YOUR way!"
it manifests in runes/masteries in league (there is always a clear best option, there is 0 room to experiment or customize, it literally is the difference between playable and unplayable matches) and fuses in 2xko (shaking out to be exactly the same thing but with freestyle>all)

>>555880178
Now, I ain't about to watch that, but I will copy paste some comments from youtube
>Getting to see the fallout is more fun than anything they’ve designed.
heh, not a lie
>You only get one chance at a first impression.
>2XKO has failed that first impression, miserably, because it failed to follow the first and most important golden rule of game development: KNOW. YOUR. AUDIENCE.
>This game has no idea what it wants to be, because it doesn't know who they should cater to. Old-school fighting game players don't like it because it lacks motion inputs and has mechanics they don't agree with. New-school fighting game players don't like it because it's not beginner-friendly. League players don't like it because it's not League. The game is, figuratively and literally, made for no one who would play or care about those games. It's just more live-service slop that current-era devs always churn out these days for quick cash grabs before they shut it down completely.
Uncuckable should take notes
>Yes having just players who only like one style of play designing a game is never good. That's why you should never allow players to have control on anything, because their biases and agendas cloud their judgement from having a great product.
I'm glad people are finally realizing what I've been saying for a good time now.

this is a genre that relies on knowledge checks. you can't remove that. if you want casuals to play them you need people to be more prepared for the knowledge checks and if you want that you need GOOD SINGLEPLAYER CONTENT so you can trick them into learning

world tour was somewhat-okay but FGs can do immensely better

>>555890282
that got me interested so i looked at progression cheevos in sf6
barely 1/3 of players got far enough in world tour to use a master action (i.e. played it for more than 10 minutes)
i don't think a "le heckin' story mode that teaches you to play le game" is gonna do anything for anyone

>>555890364
sf6 has had a ton of players so 1/3rd is something imo
plenty of people learn RTSes to a somewhat-competent level from their good campaigns. they might not be good, but they can get their footing. fighting games have always been shit at even getting that out of people.

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good night tuko

>>555893724
Good night Dariis enjoyer

>>555890282
Knowledge checks are fine because people can just google "what am I supposed to do about X" and find out. The problem is when you google "what am I supposed to do about Ekko twerking on me with his unreactable 8-way mix that kills me in two hits" and the answer is "lol, lmao". 2xKuso doesn't really have that many knowledge checks, things are so powerful most of the time that they don't have simple, easy answer and the only reliable defense is to not get hit in the first place.

what if i can't memorize knowledge checks and i forget shit regularly. This is the single biggest hurdle that i haven't managed to overcome in years of playing this genre. I just have shit memory

Tuko proved having known pros balancing the game is no different than out of touch japanese devs you never see.
What hope is left? Balancing through twitter polls?

>>555909807
ai data analysis

>>555909807
Works for Gwent

>>555909807
How about actual game devs who are in-touch? Magic The Gathering figured out that pros can't balance for shit in the 90s, this shit ain't new. You ask the pros what the problems are and look at their gameplay to ascertain they are being truthful, but you don't fucking ask them for answers because being good at a game doesn't equate to being good at designing a game.

>>555909807
frankly i don't know anymore
pros have a obvious agenda that they push and it's tiresome, devs are stupid as fuck and clueless with no ability to lab their own characters let alone play them or even detect whether something is fun to interact with
yasekko somehow feels even worse to play into than ever before despite the "nerfs" they got. i literally random select a juggernaut when i fight it and then quit after one game because playing my main into it just makes me feel retarded for even trying to make any team but that one work.

>>555912219

I don't get it why they're so afraid of touching Yasuo and Ekko. They did more meaningful nerfs on lower tier characters, and keep doing system changes targetting the top tier that affects the lower tiers way more.
And then they released Cait who can abuse and get around the system just like Yasuo and Ekko.
I kinda agree with Leffen that having a game where Darius, Blitz and Braum are top tier, or even zoning being top tier (actual zoning, not like early seaon 0 where Jinx was top tier for her beam tag) could be worse. But Yasuo, Ekko and Ahri are so good you can nerf them to a reasonable level and keep them in the upper tiers.

>>555912912
$$$ pure and simple. the characters win so they sell skins