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>What... is this?
Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

>Where can I watch the cup?
https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

>Ongoing Cup
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4chan_Winter_Cup

>Upcoming Invitationals
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/LAN_Party_the_3rd:_Admins_of_the_Frozen_Throne
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/VGL_Luigi_Circuit_4
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4CC_Champions_League
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League_9/11:_Never_Forget

>Wiki:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Sekkrit Code
37pebis

>DLC Password
divegrass

>Booru
https://isthisliv.com/booru/

>Archive
https://implying.fun/

>Other videos
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>PES Info
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2021

>Previously
The most boring grip weekend in years
moot is gay
Shitposting
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Hey >fun guy.
VOD when?
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dont forget the sister thread >>>/trash/80890971
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>>555768008
oldfags used to cream themselves over this in 2015
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graphic design is my passion
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>>555769097
Please make the official 4cc sticker album.
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>>555768008
Schizo theory but I think if a player touches the ball a lot early and gets match rating points the game decides that they are playing well. TLDR Rape Correction getting 15 touches in this play is why they scored later in the match.
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>>555769163
Im trying to strike a deal with Panini for the official 4cc album, anon. Please wait warmly
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>>555769097
They are cool, keep at it
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>>555768157
now
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>>555770120
>it'srael
Thank you so much
Enjoy the weekend.
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>>555769097
>>555769689
I like it. I'm not a huge fan of the gradient in the background though
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>>555770120
the video seems to pause a second every minute. hope it's not too annoying
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>>555770120
Match day 2 chat is out of sync
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>>555768008
You are unironically IQ deficient if you think this isn't kino
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>>555768008
Do you prefer players passing to the opposition?
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>>555771358
It pauses, sometimes it turns black and it sometimes cuts off audio.
It seems like the VOD is corrupted.
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>>555771849
KWAB
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>>555772634
>Moot was raped by Epstein in the cool autism of '11
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>>555771358
>>555771969
I've skipped around, watched a bit, and I'm not able to replicate those issues. If you have timestamps point me to the problem area.
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>>555774154
Not him but I'm watching /h/ v /mu/ and the audio is out of sync for me.
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>>555774154
The entire vm - tv match
https://files.catbox.moe/c9u27i.mp4 (the own goal sequence). By the end of the match the audio is out of sync by a good 2 seconds.
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>>555774154
https://implying.fun/video/winter26/2026-01-30/?t=1:13:00.0
https://implying.fun/video/winter26/2026-01-30/?t=2:56:27.0
https://implying.fun/video/winter26/2026-01-30/?t=3:12:15.0
these are just small examples but the audio cuts out for a couple seconds and the video freezes for a second as well
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By my count an even number of /vg/ golds have been good as have been bad. So good luck to Ezio in spring on trying to break that tie.
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>>555774491
>lzg
Bro vg made the finals with that gold
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>>555774559
And he still sucked
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>>555774474
https://implying.fun/video/winter26/2026-01-30/?t=3:13:21.0
https://implying.fun/video/winter26/2026-01-30/?t=4:23:05.0
https://implying.fun/video/winter26/2026-01-30/?t=5:14:37.0
more examples
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>>555774491
My nigga Greg got robbed
>/lcg/ on green
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>>555774491
Alice was not good. She was only in the World Cup and /vg/ only won one game. You say Naga Raida was marked bad and Alice was marked good,but stats wise they had the same amount of goals and Naga Raida had more assists, a game MOTM award and actually brought /vg/ to an elite finals
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>>555774491
Easy o already looking pretty red to me (one goal, but lost the match and with the team on the verge of elimination), but maybe he will get his revenge tournament in spring.
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>>555775676
Also Snaketits never did anything remarkable to deserve "good medal" over Naga Raida, she only scored 3 goals in the group stage and died in the Ro16 to /cm/
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lolcow soapboxing in the 'cord
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>>555775676
>they had the same amount of goals
yes, one of them in 3 games and the other in 7 games. /vg/'s 2nd gold that winter was Bane.
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>>555775902
>Soryuu posting a wall of text.
Tell the flip to go home, he is too late to the conversation
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>>555775819
/vg/ was doomed the second Boris mispronounced his name.
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>>555775902
>>555775987
But is he wrong?
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>>555776143
I won't read all of that so you tell me.
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>>555776143
it doesn't matter how right or wrong he is when it's the most autistic thing posted in the 'cord today
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>>555774491
Ok now do this for the runnerup silvers.
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>>555776240
No because they've played a number of different roles that are often not comparable to each other in a list format such as the one provided. 95% of golds have been CFs set up to be the lead scorer.
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>>555776437
List the silvers that scored more than the gold in the same roster.
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>>555774491
>git gud
>green
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The four whoresmen of the apocalypse - /aco/, /d/, /h/ and /pw/
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>>555774491
/vrg/ deserves a highlight with extra emphasis
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>>555776521
Winter/Spring 15: Purple Heart (Silver SS, 1 goal), >arcade (Gold AMF, 1 goal), Git Gud (Gold CF, 2 goals)
Summer/Autumn 17: Wilhelm II (Silver AMF, 1 goal 1 assist), Honkers (Gold SS, 0 goals 1 assist), Git Gud (Gold SS, 3 goals)
Winter 20: Hope (Silver CMF, 3 goals 1 assist), Naga Raida (Gold CF, 3 goals 2 assists), Git Gud (Gold CF, 5 goals 3 assists)
Summer 20: Duce Duce Duce (Silver CF, 2 goals), Bigley (Gold CF, 1 goal 1 assist), Git Gud (Gold AMF, 1 assist)
Winter/Spring 22: Finally a Break (Silver SS, 2 goals 2 assists), fumika xD (Gold AMF, 2 goals 1 assist), Git Gud (Gold CF, 4 goals 1 assist)
Autumn 22: Sisterfucker (Silver SS, 7 goals 4 assists), Zero Sanity (Gold CF, 6 goals 5 assists), Git Gud (Gold SS, 7 goals 3 assists)
Winter/Spring 23: Zero Sanity (Silver SS, 2 goals 1 assist), wegh (Gold CF, 2 goals 1 assist), Git Gud (Gold AMF, 2 goals)
Autumn 23 (+ quals): Danteh (Silver CMF, 5 goals 3 assists), Supreme (Gold CF, 2 goals 4 assists), Git Gud (Gold SS, 9 goals 2 assists)
Spring 25 (+ quals): I can't do anything (Silver CF, 3 goals 1 assist), Ship it Monzo (Gold CF, 3 goals 1 assist), Git Gud (Gold AMF, 1 assist)
Winter 26 (ongoing): Straight Up Retard (Silver SS, 2 goals), Ezio's name in Italian (Gold CF, 1 goal), Git Gud (Gold SS, 1 goal)
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>>555778502
Sisterfucker was so good (also kinda carried by being an SS on pes 21, but still)
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>>555778881
That entire offense was so good. Basement Bubba too. I love men.
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>>555778502
>Ezio's name in Italian
retard
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cloud
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>>555782638
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>9
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>Dr. Pavel, I'm D-Class
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is there a list of halal 4cc and vgl teams
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>moot was connected to Epstein
>Epstein loved browsing /u/
The yuri conspiracy goes all the way to Trunp
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>>555774491
/lcg/ is a red
/lzg/ is a green, Naga Raida literally got to a final.
/vrg/ should probably be rainbow colored or something at this point. I don't know why the PES gods have chosen medal Unity-chan being the secret to a 75% chance of appearing in a final for /vg/, but PES works in mysterious ways.
/1999/ is looking like a red so far but I could see a turn-around for Ezio in the next match or knockouts if /vg/ advance
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>>555786730
It's funny how the "newer" teams can still end up with 4cc-core players
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>>555787618
epstein did the yuri wave
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>>555789596
>>555778479
Everyone forgets about the sweltering summer of '25.
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Charlie was right.
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ASS Rentry?
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>>555793416
I'll re-enter your ass.
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>>555793005
the Renaissance men are coming to town super soon?
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>>555771849
>be gentile
the goyim know
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>listen to first boom
>/v/ is unlucky and PES didn't let them play
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>>555793005
The dead bitch?
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>>555798075
The unicorn.
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>>555798847
The coolest team in the VGL.
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>>555798847
Hell yeah
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Race-ism is on in about an hour and change; in the mean time, https://rigbot.niuchan.org/gt4cc now has the constructors championship as well. Honda running away with it at the moment
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>>555790551
>he rooted for /u/ and /gif/ despite literally having founded /pol/
fucking merc
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>>555803010
He got a star for /5N@F/
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>>555803010
how long until we find out he groomed DF?
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Teams like this?
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>>555804594
/bag/, /lcg/ and other X2 babs
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>>555804594
/vrg/'s Benuldy's
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/f/ is back baby
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>tipping
/a/ wins 3-1
/bant/ wins 2-1
/an/ wins 3-1
/b/ wins 2-1
/wsg/ wins 3-2
/sp/ wins 3-1
/fit/ wins 3-2
/tg/ wins 2-1
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>tripping balls
/a/ 3-1 /vt/
/bant/ 3-1 /his/
/pol/ 1-3 /an/
/sci/ 3-1 /b/
/wsg/ 1-3 /i/
/wg/ 1-3 /sp/
/fit/ 3-1 /d/
/gd/ 1-3 /tg/
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>>555798847
Anal sex with the robot
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>>555806518
maybe on planet kino
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Moot was raped in the brisk and chilly autumn of 2011
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>>555809524
KWAB
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>>555771849
@Sou, is this real?
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>>555804263
He didn't like the Irish because of their flat asses, what does that say about DF?
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The decision on Woody's suspension has been made and it was decided that Madoka would be moved up into Woody's spot and a non-medal CMF to be subbed into Madoka's spot for /toy/'s last group stage match.
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who got BTFO'd the most with yesterday's revelations: /u/ or /pol/?
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>>555812024
Easily /pol/, they just learned that their board was created immediately after big E walked Moot home gently.
Meanwhile /u/ for the first time in history have a court-admissible evidence that their board was used by at least one non-ESL
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>>555811958
didn't ask but good to know since i like her goalhorn
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>>555812024
you did for caring about random emails from a decade ago
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>>555812261
Donnie...
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>>555812261
t.Trump
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>>555812261
Moot....
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>>555812261
Boris...
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>>555812024
/pol/, they spend years working themselves into a shoot over Q fanfics just for it to be revealed that their board was founded by the most notorious pedophile of modern history
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>>555811958
I'm already anticipating that 5-1 /toy/ win with Madoka scoring a double brace.

That being said, the /tv/ Grand Galactic Senate has decided that Sneed due to his abysmal performance will be suspended for the reminder of the cup. Dumbledore is sent to Azk... a country retreat until he apologizes for his crimes. That is all.
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>>555811958
ok
nice
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>>555812565
Hey Suule do you watch the same Futa that Epstein does?

>>555812024
Epstein only linked /u/ twice in emails, /pol/ was made because moot had to roll for anal circumference on a cool October night in 2011
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>>555812565
Get sneeded idiot
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>>555812867
elf rape
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>>555811958
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>>555812730
At least he had better taste in Foxy and Bonnie models than most futafags do, which is appreciated, but no. A human woman in my porn be it real or SFM causes me to immediately go into rage induced coma.

I did manage to find which ones he watched with a quick e621 search.
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>>555812565
>Sneed due to his abysmal performance will be suspended for the reminder of the cup
faggot
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>>555812565
>Sneed due to his abysmal performance will be suspended for the reminder of the cup
when will /vg/ do this with Space Bear?
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>>555813654
Git Gud*
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/vt/ 3-3 /a/
/bant/ 4-4 /his/
/pol/ 2-3 /an/
/sci/ 2-1 /b/
/wsg/ 4-1 /i/
/wg/ 4-3 /sp/
/fit/ 1-1 /d/
/gd/ 3-4 /tg/
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>>555812867
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>>555809316
GUH
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>>555813770
HUH
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>>555813059
Cute
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What does the black ass meme mean?
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>>555814038
So you don't know
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>>555814038
A man involved in the cup called Kekkles is a known buck breaker
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>>555814087
You tell me
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>>555769097
Turn this into an actual trading card and cum on it
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Reminder that if you're in a cup 'cord of any kind you're a fag and should kill yourself. The doors of Heaven open wide for the /4ccg/ purist.
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>>555815048
>asking people to kill themselves before they can redeem themselves and go to heaven
>essentially asking them to send themselves to hell
That's fucking metal.
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a wins 3-2
bant wins 3-2
an wins 3-1
sci wins 3-2
i wins 3-2
sp wins 4-1
fit wins 3-2
gd wins 3-2
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>>555813059
Please add :notsosmuganymore: to the cytube chat
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>>555815259
There is no redemption. If you ever made a discord account, it's already too late for you.
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>>555815259
Is he wrong though?
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>>555815418
It'll look like shit when scaled down.
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>>555815454
It depends on so many things it's not worth discussing about.
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>>555815454
>he
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THE CUP IS LIV
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>>555811958
Missed yesterday's matches, quick rundown on the drama?
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>>555815846
Woody got a pointless double yellow against /n/
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>>555815846
A certain rape victim who prepared the /toy/ autopilot forgot to include a double-A who can sub in for a suspended medal.
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>>555815846
>missed the best day of the cup by far
Shame. Hopefully today will get close to it.
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tipping
/vt/ wins 2-1
/bant/ wins 3-1
/an/ wins 3-1
/sci/ wins 2-1
/wsg/ wins 3-2
/sp/ wins 3-1
/d/ wins 3-2
/gd/ wins 2-1
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>>555816023
Yeah, I am devastated that I missed a medal suspension.
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>>555816023
There were a whole 2 (two) good games
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2 more than other days tbdesu
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>>555816142
Which is far better than 0 (zero) good games
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>>555816257
>>555816304
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Time for /vt/ to win
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>>>/trash/80910522
Life can be rough, but at least I can say I never made a post like this
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i'm homossexual
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>>555816845
god forbid someone wants to have fun
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>>555816845
looks like you need to have fun more often
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>>555816845
This post struck a nerve
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>>555816845
Listen man this cup sucks I have to find my enjoyment somehow
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>>555817357
Streakie...
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/vt/ will destroy /a/ and promote
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>>555817905
>promote
Anon I...
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>>555817905
Based having hope anon.
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betting scheme match
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the better anime team is winning, finally
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>>555817905
>promote
Anon... that's as likely as the chance of me having sex with that rock
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>>555818510
watching defenders move on rebounds is like watching toddlers
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>>>/trash/80910991
The only good thing to come out of this match
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>>555819157
4cc porn is huge untapped potential
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>>555811958
Hell yeah. I was ready to go full meme and add a special horn if a non medal replaced Woody instead
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alright /a/ what's your cope for losing to /vt/?
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>>555819905
Already through to the RO16.
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>>555819905
Game doesn't matter
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>>555819976
>>555820038
Coping
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>>555819976
>>555820038
and there it is
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GET FUCKED /a/
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>>555820089
FEET
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GO /bant/!
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/vt/ is still dead
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>>555820089
Enjoy spring argie nigger
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>>555820089
alright you won now post more vtuber feet
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Seeing how /vt/ played the last 2 matches, if /his/ loses then I would argue /his/ are the worst team of this group and that /bant/ is a sleeping tiger.
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Babbies are more fun anyways
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Every test my gold striker gets the ball he gets pushed over by a defender with pure aura alone and when the other teams gold gets the ball he can be marked by 3 people at once and still manage to dribble their way out of it
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>>555821057
I said this about 17 and everyone told me the opposite happens in 15
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>>555820895
It was known to be a group of death from the start. I think /his/ got lucky against /bant/ and /a/ sandbags a lot
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>>555818660
There's still a chance, get to it
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>>555821292
>group of death
so both advancers are losing in the round of 16 got it
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>>555821294
What does it taste like?
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>>555821292
Against /vt/ I mean*. /vt/ didn't deserve to lose that game
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>>555821406
salty milk and coins
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>>555821405
It's always likely
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>>555821607
There's a 1/8 chance one of them gets the good fortune to encounter Ro16 /d/
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>>555821737
Wait, no, 1/7, i failed math lole
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>>555822035
lmao
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>>555822035
10/10
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admin question doko
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>>555822658
I'm questioning /admin/ right now.
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Total Leaf Death
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What would happen if every match in a group ended in a 0-0 draw
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>elite KOs with both 8th founding duo
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what's the scoreline now? the 'tube won't load for me
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>>555823626
chuddha diplomatic victory
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>>555823626
the entire group would have to be replayed
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>>555823557
wide leafgirls...
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>>555823628
This is an excellent argument for randomizing the group toppers.
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>>555823626
playoffs
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/a/ /bant/ and /vt/ were pretty strong. I was expecting that out of this group with /his/ instead of /bant/ though
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>>555823695
I won't tell you because of that image
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>>555823695
/his/ 2-1 /bant/
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>>555823749
/his/ were mega frauds
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so called free thinkers when
>It was just banter
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>>555824157
the cup has a lot of songs that make people want to unite under one gif
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>>555823749
Strong group overall minus /his/. Can't wait to see /bant/ in the knockouts
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Sentenced to kermit commentary
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>>555820594
I mean they have similar preferences for what men they'd want to see with the girls they like
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My boy big plans just needed more time
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Does anyone have the matrix for this group?
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>>555774491
Had aura: Mike Schmidt, Napoopan, Grigori, >greg, Unity-chan, Gogeta Da, Zero Sanity, Pls Rember
No aura: Git Gud, blaster, Jewgle, Naga Raida, Bigley, Snaketits, Alice, Supreme, Fate is Over Retard, Monzo, Ezio
Aura of losing: Honkers, Fumika, Wegh
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>>555824715
blackypow
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>>>/gif/30191380
Epstein jerked off to this webm.
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Poor /an/, they didn't deserve to die like this.
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>>555825052
Greg wasn't even a gold medal you zoomer retard
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>>555824715
BBCogbrush...
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Genuiine question to the /u/ management: Are you happy that /u/ is NOT here considering the happening, or would you prefer they'd be;
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>>555825748
They pride themselves about being a nuisance. What do you think
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Nothing ever happens
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>IT'S HAPPENING
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>>555825646
Good thing I didn't call him or Mike /vg/ golds in my post retard
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>>555825851
>They pride themselves about being a nuisance
But enough about /uma/
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>>555826125
What a weird way to spell /bag/.
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ITS SLIPPING
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>epstein imbued with yuri power
>first half hat-trick
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>epstein's coming out as yurifag saves /pol/
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at this score /pol/ would just need /sci/ to win by 2 to advance
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I still don't know what epstein actually did, all I know is he held parties for his celebrity friends on his island but no idea what he did for a living
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>>555827342
he was a school teacher
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>>555827342
(((Finance)))
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>>555827342
sheltered troubled youths
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>>555827342
He was a fixer, you gave him money and he would arrange kids, drugs, PMCs and anything you can think of
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>>555827342
He was a wall street hype man/ scammer
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>go take a massive dump
>come back
>6-2 before 60'
What the fuck
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>>555827753
/pol/ are eviscerating /an/ with quick counters
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>>555827753
Turns out that your team just needs more yuri.
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>>555827753
they hired a /u/ merc
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>>555827753
With jews you win
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>>555827915
So New Mexico Whiptail as the Captain of /an/ for Spring?
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>>555827915
/1999/ should've sent the woman
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>>555827753
Eat some fibber
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/an/ are the Buffalo Bills.
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holy fuck this goalhorn is killingm e
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>>555827753
what type? I clogged my toilet with a 2er the other day
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/an/ has to be the worst team to be a fan of, right? At least shitters know what they're getting into, /an/ is always just good enough to have a spirit breaking group exit in elites and no more. They're the Buffalo Bills of the 4cc
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>>555828952
/an/ and /vr/ are both lovable teams that sometimes make deep babby runs but are never ever seeing another elite KO.
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>>555828710
What are we doing on the bed Jeffy-kun?
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jesus fucking christ what a match
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>>555828952
I just want to see animals kicking ass :(
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>>555828874
Type 4 standing by
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Autumn runner up btw
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>>555829553
The Autumn winner ain't that much better
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>>555829553
der game is not, der consistent? how can this be? 15 years of divegrass has led me to believe teams are always good in every cup?
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>>555829056
All /vr/ has to do is win tomorrow and they will
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>>555828874
Which manager do I even call for a type 3-4 situation
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>>555830731
All /an/ had to do today was not lose to the team that hadn't scored a single goal yet.
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My biggest regret is that even the funny losses only happened in testing
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>>555830775
Yeah, and they failed. Doesn't mean /vr/ will automatically follow suit
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i used to think epstein being a gold medal on /pol/ was retarded
after yesterday's revelations and today's performance i kneel holy shit
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>>555830985
Yeah the funny shit RARELY happens on match day
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so rapeape was friends with epstein too, right?
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>>555830985
that's why you keep OBS open and ready to record (or, even better, with a replay buffer) bud
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>>555831773
That's still not nearly the same as having it happen on stream
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>/pol/ tried so hard just for /sci/ to be a wet bag
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>>555830985
Testing also gets all the non medal goals
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>>555832001
u mad bro?
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How does /b/ keep doing it
Every fucking time
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>>555832251
Well, this means we get /mlpol/ in Spring so that's neat ^:)
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>>555832001
>needing someone else to win on grip weekend
Should have tried harder on their first two games then.
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>>555831613
why would he be friends with a /r9k/ janitor?
(he contacted moot because he read an article about him being le epic anonymous hacker, lel)
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Sou's PES and Boris PES are just completely asymmetrical
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>>555833313
That's not how you spell abysmal
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>>555833616
That too.
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Can't believe /pol/ was just a giant waste of time.
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>>555834171
Just like this cup hey yo
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>>555834171
The team or the board?
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>>555834317
Yes.
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>/bant/ and /b/ confirmed ELITE AND MUSCULAR on the same day?
This also opens the door for /pol/ and /u/ facing each other on spring which would be EXTREMELY funny
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>>555834361
are /u/ and /mlp/ in the same pot?
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>>555834585
Probably. Depends on the number of revivals and the fetus format.
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>>555834754
>revivals
you're funny
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Something I always found interesting about 4cc's cycles is that they treat it as locking in a PES or ruleset for one cup when obviously it's two cups. Whatever they choose we're stuck with for 128 matches within 6 months. But it seems like they just completely ignore that a babby happens and all they care about is establishing something for an elite. But if that's the case, why even have babbies? We're at the point where the 4cc needs to change rulesets, since Sou already locked in 15 despite everyone's disapproval, but there's only a brief period to "test" any ruleset. There's barely any time between elites and babbies, especially adding a couple weeks for pre-cup testing. So at this point we all know that ruleset is just going to be something Sou randomly picks without any actual further input. Yeah sure buddy, one extra medal will fix 15! Go get em sport! Why was PES16 dumped after 2 cups but PES15 gets to exist for at least 4? "We need to make sure it's usable" hey the aesthetics "work" so it's usable, we don't need to treat this like a version that deserves 256 games in a row. Autumn was better than Winter, and babbies in general seem more fun than elites, which would lead you to believe that maybe merging the two should be on the table. Never happening though! That'd require /admin/ to consider changing something, can't do that! Instead let's perpetuate a rapid process of picking a bad ruleset for a bad PES without further consideration even though opinions on this PES have only gotten worse and /admin/ increasingly treats babbies like any smart person would treat invitationals. But honestly they don't even do that because once a ruleset is locked for a babby it's locked for an elite. You really expect them to make changes for the better in between the two?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCm9788Tb5g
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>>555834903
I wish he was joking
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>>555835020
:autism:
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>>555835020
reposting this for qna
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>>555835020
they should just get rid of babbys desu
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>>555835020
"/admin/ should put effort inbetween cycles instead of sitting on their asses until the shit they force on everyone reveals that it's shit"
Shortened it for you. 100% agree 16 should have gotten a non-fucked ruleset before ditching it.
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>>555835281
Many are saying this.
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>>555835020
Anon, that's a good point but you should learn to split your text walls into at least two paragraphs if you really want people to read them.
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>>555835281
Or just end them after groups. I'm not sure managers put that much effort into knockouts, especially with VGL and other invitationals around the corner. What really matters for most people is that the team promotes.
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>>555835627
KO's are fun sometimes, you either have a cup or not. What you are suggesting is just treating it like preliminaries because VGL or invitational shit exists.
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>>555835627
Ending them after the groups wouldn't make much of a difference, that's two days out of eight, only a quarter of a cup which, without a winner, you'd be essentially playing just as a glorified qualifier for the elites.
Now, more than ever before, there isn't much of a point to running babbies in the first place.
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>>555835914
At that point they're just super qualifiers. And if the issue is time then once again it'd be better if we just had no babbies at all.
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>>555835627
>I'm not sure managers put that much effort into knockouts, especially with VGL and other invitationals around the corner.
What's funnier about this statement, the fact that plenty of teams whose managers don't care about vglel are happy to switch off in babby KOs or that the /vg/ management will tryhard every KO run they can?
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/wsg/ is getting fucked on in this match btw
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>>555833803
no bulli cat
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>>555835627
>I'm not sure managers put that much effort into knockouts
Most managers do. They just have the free cope afterwards of not needing to care about a starless cup.
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>vglbabs wanting everything to just being different flavors of vgl
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>>555836168
VGL managers try to at least be there, /a/ /vg/ /jp/ /h/ etc were in final day and they didn't sent a pastebin
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>>555836415
Personally I think we should make the fetus bigger and be an official three weekend third tier while moving into PES14 because the VGL isn't going to do either of those.
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>>555836415
>you need to be a vglelfag to not want useless babbies anymore
This is the only argument babbyfags have, it's hilarious.
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>>555835020
I would agree that something should probably change due to current circumstances, whether that's allowing different rulesets between babbies and elites or how the tournaments themselves are setup. They won't though.
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>>555836415
biannual tournaments just work better than 4 tournaments, half of which people don't even view as the "real" tournaments or take the results of which seriously
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>>555836593
>vglbabs will never know the pleasure of setting sliders to 20
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>>555836779
I unironically would love to see modern day slider autism but people would get upset about going even further back.
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>>555836926
Whenever I've seen anybody express an opinion it's that 14's UI was superior to 15's.

No idea about gameplay.
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>>555836926
if the game loop fucking sucks like with 15 the sliders will become inconsequential
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>>555837120
Wouldn't trust any gameplay opinion anyways after what 15 turned out to be
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>>555837185
I've never bothered looking back to 14, but since it is widely accepted that the game very nearly killed the series, I think it's safe to assume it wouldn't be great.
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>>555837401
14 sucked for everyone involved, not just us
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>>555835982
>you'd be essentially playing just as a glorified qualifier for the elites
That's what babbies are.

>Now, more than ever before, there isn't much of a point to running babbies in the first place.
I don't disagree with you but alas /admin/ really likes the status quo seeing how they are averse to format changes.
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>>555837706
>That's what babbies are.
Yeah, pretty much.
>but alas /admin/ really likes the status quo
It's always funny being told that considering I'm there.
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>>555837891
Hi Shakes.

/admin/ obviously isn't one person, but it seems the consensus is to keep things as is. Granted there isn't a lot of communication, so maybe I'm just out of the loop.
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QnA anchor post doko?
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>>555838137
>/admin/ obviously isn't one person, but it seems the consensus is to keep things as is
I know, I know. It's just a bit funny, that's all
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>>555835020
>Why was PES16 dumped after 2 cups but PES15 gets to exist for at least 4?
I am asking the same thing
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>>555838859
It was too much FUN
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>>555838859
Muh PES15 deserving another chance right away instead of switching to a usable version and testing 15 rulesets properly in invitationals before using it again.
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>>555838859
because the GOAT 17 was available for use so we had to switch ASAP
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>>555838859
They need to prove PES15 deserves to keep being used but Autumn and Winter don't count so lets keep using it until everyone says they like it
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>>555838859
Sou fumbled the ruleset for 16 and now people think bad of it (but after these cups on 15 I'm sure 16 is more appealing)
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>>555839747
They aren't talking about the cups we ran in 2016, anon. PES16 was used on all four cups there.
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>>555839839
>They need to prove PES15 deserves to keep being used
Yeah, and they're gonna do this by patching the 15 out of it at this rate
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>>555835020
Epsteingpt, summarize this post with
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>>555836779
14 has portraits though, Nomo would approve of it.
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>>555840359
I love minors
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>>555839924
I'm taken aback. How are you this ESL?
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>>555841502
Distraction, if you care so much to know.
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Spee are too good, they know you have to avoid 9 points at all costs.
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>>555835627
Give teams that advance further babby knockouts slight stat advantages going into the elite group stage, call it a "Momentum Bonus" or something, which goes away for the elite knockouts.
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admin qna anchor post?
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So what is /sp/'s cope for drawing with /wg/ (3ATB)
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>>555842554
Inb4 it didn't matter because they were already through
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>>555842554
>We Didn't Even Care
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[/sp/ NEWS]One of their managers quit
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>>555842554
>he's never heard of avoiding the 9 point curse
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[/sp/ NEWS] 41%
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>>555842857
>>555842942
huh, when did this ha`ppen?
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>>555843040
xe had a melty over AI and ragequit
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>>555843040
Just now
>>>/sp/153224866
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>>555843094
>having a melty over AI
Based but also kwab
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>>555842857
>>555842942
>PES15's biggest defender is the first casualty of winter
what a twist
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>>555843094
Based fuck AI shit.
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>AI works as a troon removal tool
I still hate AI but
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OK guys I'm going to need 200 different AI songs about Trannies Acking out in the shitpost box come next week, get on it.
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>>555843165
Hating AI is fine and all, but going as far as removing yourself just to protest against it is indeed crybitch material.
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>>555843264
Contacting /mlp/ and /gig/ right now
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so that's how we defeat the infestation of troons in he VGL? nice...
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>>555843264
Just grab the /gig/ music export.
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>>555839284
The rush to Autumn is something that will be studied in the years to come. We went from Boris leaking that 15 was usable on accident after one cupday to "one full year on PES15" in like 5 days, before ANY tools were even remotely ready to go. By the time Autumn came around we've had /gaysco/ ping 500 people because of how seamless the transition was for aesthetics, and by Winter we have 80% of the cup run the same 3 exports from 10 years ago anyway
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>>555843396
Don't forget the whole manager poll fiasco and Crimson using FB to lie about the acceptance of 15
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>that legalese
My fucking sides
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>>555843094
>>555843539
>moving to another team
Can't imagine any other team but /lgbt/ but maybe I am wrong. Also kind of a bitch move to quit mid cup, /sp/ isn't even out, even if he isn't really live managing feels like poor etiquette
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>>555843094
>as I look into moving to a different team in the future
mercypow!
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>>555843094
Why does xhe care so much about some halftime shit in one match?
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>>555843094
>tranny
>meltdown over the most pointless shit
KWAB
>b-b-b-but fuck ai
Yes, but still KWAB
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>>555843347
If he/she/xey specifically instructed them to not use ai in the hyp it's valid, especially if he/she/xey wanted to move on from /sp/
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>>555843661
>>555843648
any bets on what it is if it's not legbutt
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>>555843648
maybe /an/
also doesn't the nigger realize he gets banned for quitting midcup
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>>555843648
I hope it's a revival rather than just bullying a struggling manager into letting a recent star winner take the wheel.
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>>555843740
/an/
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>>555843094
>troon desperate to become the centre of attention mid-cup
say it aint so
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>>555843731
It's only a valid reason to be pissed at the other managers, it's not a valid reason to leave a team mid-cup (which, quick reminder, is against the rules)
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>>555843094
So what, 15's most staunch advocate at every opportunity is bailing in the middle of the 15 cup he wanted, and is also going to be unable to manage a different team for the next one because of it? On the version he wanted more than anything to manage on? Are you joking?
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>GuyF AGAIN
pls no
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>>555843880
Transsexuals have never been known for their reasonableness.
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Execute all troons from al competitions, and yes I know that will erradicate all of VTL but I don't care
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Is collie actually a troon
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>>555843880
The lad doesn't even know his gender and you want him to be good at decision making? Also there is the fact he might get banned for KWAB'ing out before the cup or /sp/'s run is over
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>>555844139
(S)he was originally named Colliebro, Yes.
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>>555843094
we didn't have a KWABOTY nominee for this cup yet, I thank Collie for the sacrifice.
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>>555844139
*deep masculine voice*
IT IS I, COLLIESIS
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>>555844000
The commentary that a team like /d/ deserves
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Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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>>555844708
shut the fuck up troonysoup
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>>555844708
Naizuri
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>555844749
rent-free
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>Crimson raped into submission and is now openly talking about 16 instead
>the King Plumber 41% himself out the only 2 cups left we'll waste on 15
PES15bros, are you alright?
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Let this be a lesson, a trans 4chan anon is still just as trans as the rest of their community.
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>>555844254
still moot
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>>555844843
WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>555844990
moot gets the special non-4cc category, like rapeape did last year
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>>555845551
Still a lot of time left this year but moot is setting a very high bar to clear
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>>555843742
thats going to be a spicy council since roo is a hard "all anime is even and fuck trans people" kind of catholic
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does anyone have the /sp/-/wg/ halftime HYP?
that shit was so funny man
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>>555846116
but if anime is even then what is odd
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>>555846216
a bit insensitive given the current circumstances DESU
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>>555846216
look up "mbappe mao zedong" or something like that on youtube, you'll come across it very easily
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>>555846240
You
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Hello, if you didn't know, the signups for Test Cup V 18.1 are open: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Talk:Test_Cup_V_18.1
So if you're tired of PES15 and want to give 18 another chance or want to prepare early for VGL26 come and sign up!

You can find the PES18 patched exe for aesthetics, DLC and editor here https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Test_Cup_V_18.1
Let me know if you have any issues.
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>>555846216
Uhhhhh didn't you know it had AI in it, that means it's transphobic. It was deleted instantly to prevent offense
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>>555846338
yeah there it is, thanks man
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>inb4last match is played in wrasslin
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>>555846365
>So if you're tired of PES15
Yes.
>and want to give 18 another chance
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>555846365
>3 signups
>1 is TBD
Is there a kwaboty category for invitationals?
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>>555846897
>>555846798
O GIO
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>>555846897
Well, I only properly announced it now.
I wanted to have a DLC and Editor available first.
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>>555846365
I thought DEN was just helping gio organize this, didn't realize they were just the only two people participating lmao
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>>555846897
Still https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vp/_bowl_4(for_real_this_time)
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>>555846897
>1 is TBD
I'm submitting something, the TBD part is which team I'm submitting
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>>555847168
>for real this time
Quite self-confident there.
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>>555847168
>Zil and Blinky
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>collieBRO saw that he gets banned for leaving midcup and added his name back
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>>555848809
KWAB
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>>555846897
Worst Tournament category
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>>555848809
>it's real
Kwabbypow!
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>>555848809
KWAB
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>>555848809
Raped behavior if true.
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>>555848809
>>555849124
KWAB
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>>555849195
>j-just for the w-week...
AAAAANNNNDDD NNNEEEEWWWW
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>>555848809
/admin/'s still gonna ban him right? Like he pretty blatantly quit and is only pretending to be back now that he learned about the ban
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>>555849195
Kek, what a mercenary troon bitch.
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>/v/ is now the leader for the spoon
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He's been around long enough to know about the ban so there should be no mercy.
They should make an AI video of Sou, Boris and Crimson banning him.
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>>555849567
things just keep getting worse for crimson
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>>555849690
wait till you realize who made /tg/'s auto.
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>>555849743
that auto has had a very good run though.
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post to kill /sp/ management instantly
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>>555849294
>>555849616
>him
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>>555849980
he quit mid-transition
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>>555849980
YWNBAW
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>>555849910
>Kills Xabi
>Kills Florentino
>Kills troon
How does he do it?
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biggest KWAB cup of all time and it's not even the one /pw/ hosted
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>>555850440
Standings by pots
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>>555850898
>Pot 3 with the most advancements going into final group stage day
What did winter mean by this
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>>555850440
together forever is broken ;-;
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>>555850440
this is such a table full of KWAB
>crimson auto in spoon position
>/v/ potential spoon 5-0 loss would be an all-time worst
>pilky exposed as a 21bab fraud
>/cm/ lmao
>/vg/ can go lower
>/pol/ btfo
>/vt/ btfo
>/a/ topping group in a /sp/ hosted cup
>collietroon ragequit
>/aco/ in the top teams
>l'av smug again about /vm/ promoting

maximum KWAB group stage achieved
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>>555850440
based
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@gork how many nonmedals have ever scored 4+ goals in a match?
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We could have /aco/ v /h/ final. Would that kill PES15?
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>>555851284
The games themselves are trash this cup, but everything around it is kino
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its time again
ask questions for admin to talk about on FB. We'll address /biz/ and /n/ first so you don't need to ask about those.
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I should reevaluate my stance on trannies not being real women, because this level of dramaqueening could only be done by a girl
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>>555851484
Tracy for /mlp/
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>>555851676
Is the ps3 retro?
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>>555851676
This is not a question
Get off of 15.
Also are the rumours true?
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>>555851676
WHY IS /N/ HERE CREAMSON
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>>555851676
Questions for /admin/
1. Rule changes for spring/summer? The rush to get 15 out in time for Autumn has caused so many headaches that this iteration of winter has made people not happy with 15, do you think radical rule changes are drastically needed for the next cup cycle? (medals/amount of medals, heights, tweaks to players stats, etc)
2. Pes(s) after 15? We're pretty much not going back to 16 or 17 in the future and 19 had one of the most boring winners in cup history(fuck you /pw/). Is 21 possibly happening or god forbid 18 is on the menu and If we decide on 18, is it possible to find a version that not runs like hot garbage.
3. The /n/ situation? It's no secret that their POI has been terrible for awhile now but the recent actions of the caretaker has people doubting that he's trustworthy to take care of the team and is there any repercussions going towards him?
4. Anything else managers are gonna get yelled at for their laziness.
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>>555850440
>/fit/ /sp/
we have to stop letting JB get away with it
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>>555851676
what is the deal with collie quitting then rejoining and will there be anything for that
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>>555851676
How big is Dorothy Batista's dick?
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>>555851747
Tracy was a silver in all but name. Pepsi is the first to do it legitimately.
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>>555851676
Strongest team relegated so far?
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cute Kiyose feet
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>>555851703
It's a wannabe girl despite not being one, that's worse
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>>555851676
Will you ever seriously consider cutting down the cups to two 48 team elite cups with a small qualifier like that other tournament? With an option to go back to 4 cups if interest and teams start rising again?
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>>555851676
Why are you so gay and stupid?
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>>555851676
So here's a question not related to the recent happening or WhY wAS /n/ AlLoW Ed tO PLaY?!?!?!1?.
We all know the cup is slowly dying and it's teetering on the very edge of having just 48 teams with the recent death of /biz/ and the soon-to-be refilled grave of /n/. So what are/is the plan(s) if the cup manages to dip below that threshold? Because, let's be honest. With a new round of POI being required soon and the fact that there are several teams that are questionable with their POI it's gonna become relevant real soon.
Also a related second question. Some people when asked recently about the possibility of the previous question have sort of hand waved the issue saying /vrpg/ would be revived in Spring and to not worry about it as if a decision was already made to let them play despite the fact that their new guy didn't even sign them up before the deadline in Autumn. And if that wasn't bad enough, their POI was literally three responses. and those replies were essentially two non-yeses and a maybe to wanting to see the team play. /vrpg/ have already been the subject of POI debates for close to two years now, if they do try to revive but they turn in a POI like that again they should not be allowed to play, period, and I want the Soumissioner to actually address this one because he was already, in his own words during the last ask admin, 'on the fence' about not letting them play in Autumn despite all of that teams bullshit.
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>>555851060
>have an export that was good enough to make it into the final day of an elite
>don't want to throw it out completely because it made it into the final day of an elite
>PES15 happens
It's not complicated
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>>555851676
Any complaints that have been posted on /4ccg/ recently that you guys have considered and are working on fixing?
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>>555851676
Favorite 2hu girl?
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>>555851676
this is for /admin/ (and QD if he's in the call):
https://files.catbox.moe/nyfsrw.jpg
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>>555851676
was boris really raped in the sweltering hot summer of '11?
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>>555851676
you only get to choose one: patch 15 or move out of it immediately?
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>>555851676
Why was /n/ allowed to play with their dogshit excuse for POI
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>>555851676
Is this chicken /fa/?
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>>555851676
Will you address the allegations?
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>>555851676
Since /biz/ died and /mu/ moved up, are we still doing qualifiers for this spring cup?
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>>555851676
why is the winter cup played in summer?
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>>555851676
When is /f/ coming back?
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>>555851676
Why did we move off of 17 because it got "too stale" after 3 years and it was the only way to shake things up, but after 3 months on 15 we're now considering not just completely different medal system but also patches apparently?
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>>555851676
Is it time to sack Limbab?
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>>555851676
Is it true Boris has moot hostage in a cage under his bed?
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>>555851676
have you considered going directly to hiroshimoot to see if he could make jannies more lenient on the cup? having an intraboard event sounds like something that could help get some more activity on the site
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>>555851676
>>555835020
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>>555851676
So, any rule chances in mind for Spring?
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>>555851676
There needs to be punishment for quitting mid cup. When is Collie getting her sentence?
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>>555851676
How do you feel about /v/ potentially spooning?
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>>555851676
check this shit out
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>>555851676
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO TO /tg/?????
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>>555851676
is true that boris is getting bald?
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>>555851676
Will /bant/ do final day
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>>555851676
1. What will be done about Collie's 'retirement' announcement and removing himself from the wiki for a moment then adding himself back when realizing he would eat a 6-month ban.
2. Will Sou acknowledge his tribal chief
3. PES14 - is it possible? And when?
4. How are we looking in terms of teams reviving or dropping out.
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>>555852118
>going directly to hiroshimoot
Did the hack teach you nothing?
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>>555851676
When will you finally allow /trash/ to play in the cup?
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>>555851676
>>555849195
NO TAKE BACKS, BAN HIS ASS
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>>555851676
You need to force streamers to test on a new PES before they get to stream, to avoid the spaghetti that was Boris’ first day of this cup

Sup Boris
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>>555851676
So Ramen won the rumble. reactions?
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FB, Winter 26 Day 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68QfXi-cC0
>>555851676
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>>555851676
liz love
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>>555851676
With Boris compromised by the Epstein Files, can you remove one of /u/'s cups since they had a man on the inside?
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>>555851676
Crimson, do you feel raped?
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>>555852386
The Ramen? From /vg/ League?
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>>555844843
>PES15bros, are you alright?
You are talking to no one
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>>555851676
Thought on pinkshit?
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>>555851676
Is /admin/ ever going to put effort into drafting rulesets (like TMA does, like him or not) or is it all just going to be vibe-based nonsense?
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>>555851676
How many people in admin know that according to the US code of federal regulations title 21 section 102.39 (a) (1), you are required to specify if onion rings are made out of diced onion?
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>>555852464
so you don't know
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>>555852416
>First shart
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>>555851676
Thoughts on he guy wanting to somehow revive /ic/ and the other separate guy that might try to make another /vip/ roster for a possible debut?
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>>555852476
Please consult the chart
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>>555851676
What's her name?
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>we're staying on 15
>different rulesets will be considered
>we won't get rid of babbies
>collie won't get banned
there's your qna
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>>555851676
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>>555851676
you should seriously be considering getting rid of babbies and doing one PES and one ruleset per elite. Will you?
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>>555852476
Pinksex, ignore Speedy's stupid chart
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>>555852476
lovely
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>>555851676
Excited for AJ Styles on AEW?
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>>555851676
Holy damn the actual soccer in this cup has been dogshit
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>>555851676
Is blinky tsundere for /mlp/?
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>>555851676
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>>555852319
no
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>>555852608
Cool, I'll go back to jerking it
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>>555852118
Hiro doesn't give the slightest fuck about the website.
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>>555851676
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>>555851676
/pol/ and /wowg/ linked up
need it or keep it?
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>>555851676
When will you move the Q&A to /trash4ccg/?
>>>/trash/80890971
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>>555851676
I like 15 now that it has killed every team you like, pushed up /aco/ and rewarded the same 'ol exports. Keep 15.
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>>555851676
Why does Boris hate /h/?
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>>555852212
hfk
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>>555851676
2 questions for the duality of man

You have 3 beers to share with anyone in the cup, past or present. Who do you drink with?
You also have a gun with 3 bullets to use on anyone in the cup, past or present. Who do you shoot?
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>>555852997
When will you kill yourself?
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>>555851676
You know who this is for
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>>555851676
4cc Luckswing when?
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>>555851676
whc 2hu wud u fuc?
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>>555853137
After /trash/ gets their star
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>>555851676
When will they return to tell all the freakazoids in the back to have fun.
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>>555851676
What are you guys doing to kill chaos?
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>>555851676
Give me a QRD of all the previous questions
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>>555851676
as revealed by the leaks, we now know that Dragonfag did, in fact, nothing wrong. as per his vindication, will you officially return the star to /sp/ ?
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>>555851676
Favorite /4ccg/ player?
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>>555851676
ENKIDU I'M GAY LET'S FUCK
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>>555853514
It's impossible for me to watch this without cackling like a maniac
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>>555851676
Thoughts?
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>>555851676
What about /n/ and /biz/?
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>>555851676
Which team is the Arizona Cardinals of the 4cc?
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>>555851676
@grok remove this nigga's balls
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>>555851676
I WARNED YOU ABOUT PES 15 BRO
t. your VGL boogeyman
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>>555851676
I came here that say that Epstein did not jerk off to FNAF futa porn but to Mercy SFM porn, which is boring and gay.
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>>555851676
With uncle Boris literally being sent off to the farm soon who is poised to replace him as the main elite cup streamer if MuskNet doesn't allow for Boris to stream anymore?
Also how many horses will he fuck on said farm?
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>>555851676
Elitebros? I thought we were going to expose the lazy same old 4-3-3s? Why are we all either getting relegated by them or using them?
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>>555851676
There's too many vidya teams on the 4cc, can you guys send some of the less remarkable ones to the VGL or something?
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>>555851676
please get something that makes the nyoner get a byoner
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>>555850440
I didn't liked losing to /vt/ but otherwise we got a relatively comfy advancement this time
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ASS anchor post. any questions asked here will be answered tomorrow
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>>555851676
Did Epstein manage a team
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>>555854004
redirect this question into your ass
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>>555851676
Who's the Cignetti of the cup?
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>>555851676
will /u/ face consequences?
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>>555853964
where is this cat from anyway?
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>>555854004
Why is VGLco gay?
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>>555854004
Have you guys ever considered starting up a rival show to rival yourselves? FB isn't even a competitor at this point
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>>555854129
Arkniggers are homos
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>>555854004
>ASS tomorrow
I WISH
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>>555854124
Syou you dyon't knyow?
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>>555851676
With the Epstein news, /gif/ revival when?
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>>555854294
Noo
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>>555851676
What are the least enjoyable teams to stream?
What are the worst aesthetics in the cup?
What is the worst music in the cup?
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>>555851676
Will you make me a sandwich?
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>>555854331
Me with the poncho and sombrero.
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>>555853684
/lit/
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>>555851676
what do you think in changing pes on the elites instead of the babbys?
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>>555851676
Are you ready for THE STRONGEST team to win it all?
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>>555851676
about >>555854610 :
why did it change in the first place? traditionally it was new PES in winter, so an elite, and then it ended on a babby. why not get rid of babbies entirely?
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>>555851676
>>555852050
By the time that they answer this, it will be Spring.
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>>555854446
/vt/
/b/
/vt/
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>>555851676
Top 3 and bottom 3 anime from this season so far?
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>>555851676
Why doesn't my father love me?
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>>555851676
Tell me which version of "Someday" is better, the Japanese version or the English one?
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>>555851676
Which cup is the comfiest?
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>>555851676
BEE
Kind
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>>555851676
Is it better to be a Yoyo where you have the chance at winning a babby every now and then, or Permafodder for Elite ro16s every 6 months?
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>>555851676
Where did PES 15 touch you? You're sounding awfully raped this cup.
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>>555851676
Should I start wacthing Soremachi?
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>>555851676
Which VGL26 newcomer are you most excited for?
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>>555851676
How long can you stall for time while waiting for Sou and the others?
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>>555851676
Any rumblings of new teams/returns for spring? Will /vrpg/ really be the first ded vidya board
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>>555855459
YES
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>>555855317
if that elite team literally never goes on a deep run then the yoyo
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>>555851676
Why are you coping for PES 15 instead of using 16?
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>>555851676
Shout NIGGER as loud as you can
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>>555851676
Favorite Cromartie character? For me it's my nigga Masked Takenouchi
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>>555855619
>Any rumblings of new teams/returns for spring?
whatever team collie chooses to revive I guess
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>>555851676
Favorite region of Italy?
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>>555855998
Campania
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>>555852746
He's just jealous of their success, he has to mock them every day this time because he knows he'll never be able to get a star himself.
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>>555856231
blinky advanced from fewers groups than /mlp/ has stars
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>>555851676
i'm considering to be a manager for a smaller league in order to gain experience before going for /4cc/.where would i find the resources to build a team?
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>>555855998
Veneto
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>>555852183
>>555851676
What's /admin/'s favourite Ace Attorney case?
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>>555856704
>fewers
I fucked up
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>>555856824
crimson will say turnabout big top to be contrarian
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>>555856704
>fewers
my liège...
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>>555851676
Behold, a pony! 𐂃
Your day is now ruined
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>>555851676
Favorite obscure PS2 game?
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>>555855998
Ezio
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>>555851676
When will the /v/alkans be good?
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>>555856752
The wiki or join the league discords and ask for help.
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>>555851676
danteeeeeeeeh with the double spoon
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>>555851676
Who is the Calgary Flames of the 4cc?
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>>555857161
Me in the bottom left
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>>555851676
Since it was just mentioned on FB, Since they brought it up talking about /vg/. Could someone in admin actually make sure /vg/ puts in effort for their hosted cup in Spring? Because their last hosted cup was awful in terms of the refs, aesthetics, hype and even the final boss. I don't want to see the stupid big Grigori head again, I don't want to see Unity Chan or any other lazy effort from the /vg/ camp. Seriously, you have 25 Leagues worth of shit to pull from. Fucking put some effort into it.
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>>555857573
The issue is that /vg/ actually put effort into their refs but everyone said they just wanted reused players. So which one are you asking for here?
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>>555815495
not >>555815418 but it looks alright with some light tweaking
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>>555851676
When will you stop the romanian menace from tainting PES discussion?
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>>555852476
Doroboneko...
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>>555851676
How salty am I allowed to be my actual new model is going to lose the autie to a 5 year old /pol/ head put on a 10 year old /u/ body?
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Let's get some positivity here, I want you all to share one good thing that's happened in your life so far this year.
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>>555858472
i havent killed myself yet
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>>555858472
haven't quit my team mid-cup
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>>555858472
i havent killed myself yet
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>>555858472
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel
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QRD of FB so far?
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>>555851676
what happened to FroggerP?
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>>555858472
The disease I got made me lose 20 pounds already
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>>555858472
I saw the 49ers and the Rams lose
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>>555858472
I haven't killed myself yet.
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>>555856972
that's a box not a pony
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>>555851676
who's gonna win the Elimination Chamber?
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>>555858472
Ive been eating a bit better and actually using my oven, so thats been nice and economical
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>>555858472
I can't think of anything.
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>>555858146
you can't see her eyebros at all when it's that small so it just look like a blank madoka face
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>>555851676
who do you think will win Garbage Day
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>>555851676
Hey g can you make me a sandwich
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>>555851676
fat birb
>>
>>
ATTENTION
First Bait is currently covering predictions for Group F, questions should be answered SOON(TM).
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>>555851676
This cup is one of the most keeperbab ones in a while.
PES21 WC patch when?
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>>555851676
CHOOSE YOUR DESTINY
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>>555858472
I'm starting my new job on Monday
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>>555859284
me on the left
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>>555851676
Sou, as seen by >>>/sp/153224866 and >>555849195, CollieSis already said he would abandon the team and is now trying to exploit the rules in order to not be B&. Since he did this just to join another team, he should be punished regardless
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>>555851676
what are some ideas that have been proposed to give other boards knowledge about and interested in the cup?
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[First Boom Olds]Crimson is lazy
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>>555859284
That's one happy borb
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>>555859519
congrats bro
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>>555859593
>he
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>>555851676
I forgot to commission Souhou porn when /jp/ was confirmed to stay elite. IOU one for Spring
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>>555858472
I jorked off to horse girls with big bazongas on the local costco bathroom
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>>555851676
What is the record for the number of teams confirmed through to group stages or relegated after the first weekend?

Outside of WORLD PREMIERS, when was the last time that a team got their best ever win and worst ever defeat in the same cup?
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>>555851676
Serious Talk:
Next babby should use a new patch.
Also, what country would you nuke: France or Italy?
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>>555859830
>has
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>>555858472
After months of preparation, I finally managed to jerk off to ponies.
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>>555851676
forgot to quote >>555859338
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>>555851676
why do we need pre-match tactical rigging, again? why can't teams just submit tactics that have all presets set up and before a match just check conditions, set the starting players and go?
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>>555858472
I haven't killed myself yet
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>>555851676
whats the best ecchi/hentai manga?
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>>555851676
it's not fair, you don't have to browse a board to enjoy the memes, sometimes I just want to spam :bog: and :aaaa: without touching /biz/ , I like watching them play in a retarded sort of way.
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>>555859957
>no
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>>555851676
ded team memevitational when?
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[/n/ news\ bong was lazy
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>>555860404
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>>555860221
>vagina
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>>555851676
as long as there is a caretaker they should be allowed to play, the point is to gather interest in the cup, if someone wants to BEE for their board, let them as long as they at least post a thread, it doesn't matter if the poi is good or not, the point is to gather interest
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>>555860221
>dick
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>>555851676
There was some discussion earlier on in the week on how we could shake up the dominance of 442/443, One such suggestion was limiting which positions medals can play (Like SS's can only be Silver or lower and if they are silver you can only have one was one think?) among other things that I can't remember and too lazy find it but would you entertain the idea of trying to nerf 442/443 dominance in some way and play test it before Spring?
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>>555860586
So you're saying "let teams play without poi as long as they can gather interest after posting a thread"? That sounds reasonable, but if no interest comes out of that would you still let them keep on playing?
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>>555859284
Happy for that fat borb
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>>555861006
Just reply to your own OP. It's free POI.
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>>555851676
By the time you get to this post, drink for every mention on 15 in any manner before this one. Negative ones warrant 2 shots.
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>>555851676
Which will get you cancer sooner, PES15 or alcohol?
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>>555861006
We're dying, I'd say even a small bit of interest is worth gathering. I'd say giving them at least three attempts until it's clear there is no interest to be found.
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>>555851676
PES 18 WHEN
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>>555851676
Skip spring and megaelite for 15th anniversary?
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>>555861339
Graphic design is my passion
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>>555851676
So about how shit 15 is.
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>>555851676
Ok, just go back to 17
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>>555861339
I think it looks good when it's centered
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>>555861339
>those completely off-center logos
There really is no hope for him. His work is enthusiastic, but he needs an artistic director who'll guide his every move.
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I've been off this general since autumn, what ever happened with the 4chan preimer league that was getting poster here around summer/autumn?
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>>555861339
The stadium name in the bottom will break for stadium with longer names
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>>555861684
the entire thing was a honeypot
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>>555861228
Sure, but only if we need it to keep the count at 48 teams, no more no less.
>>
>>
>Epic 11 year old is the guy that hates PES17
Not even a manager kekypow
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>>555851676
3 medals (1 gold, 2 silver) when
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>>555851676
just do the fucking wheel of pes already
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>/admin/ (featuring pavel) is coping for point buy
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>>555851676
Can we go back to a PES where /myteam/ was good?
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>>555851676
Oh right, the question. I've got one for ya.
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>>555861684
Turned out to be just an /offtopic/ shitpost
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>>555861339
Google's design team is aware of this guys work and will be offering an unpaid internship position shortly.
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>>555851676
Who are the best and worst Star Trek characters?
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>>555861732
>>555862189
I figured it was all bullshit and I'm glad that I was proven right
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>>555851676
If Squidward is in this call can one of you please shoot him in his very gay face thank you
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>>555851676
What do you think about flipping the new PES versions from starting with the babbies to starting with the elites. That way the elites can't just snoop everything from the previous babby.
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>>555861339
to quote the fucking aussie: "Why do we need to change UIs?"
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>>555851676
I've done a bit of testing, and I think defender aggressiveness is related to some hidden stat not in the editor that rolled each match. Is there any known way to look into how PES controls hidden stats for players?
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>>555851676
If we're talking radical rule changes, limit SS position to one per team. 4-3-3 but with wingforwards let's go
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>>555851676
The solution to all your problems:
https://iosoccer.com/
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>>555851676
Mandatory GK on setpieces. Do it, it will save PES 15.
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>>555861339
>>555861686
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>>555852746
Could we have a wiki page that's listing all of the teams that are currently dead/caretaken/auto and whatnot?
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>>555851676
State of the commentators this cup so far?
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>>555862581
>and I think defender aggressiveness is related to some hidden stat not in the editor that rolled each match
You have no proof of this and this is blind conjecture and speculation.
>>
[Grim news] 1.12 is on the table.
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>>555863206
...as joke.
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>>555863206
what's the point of "grim reminders" when it's basically just literally setting up the spectacle for failure?
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>>555863330
...
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>>555861993
Really? Admin wants pointbuy? Why?
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>>555862967
I don't, I said as much. Thats why I'm asking if there is a way to investigate it more.
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>>555863330
ask VGLco for the next two VGLs, kwabshoku
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>>555861339
hideous, absolutely hideous
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>>555852746
Is PAVAL on meth?
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>>555851676
When will there be a crossover between Fortnite and the 4cc? I would pay so many vbucks for that
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>>555851676
1.Who do you think is going to make a surprise deep run? easy answer /bant/.
2.Who do you think among the relegated will bounce back the hardest and might even win or make a deep spring run?
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>>555863654
Well, there's no "hidden" stats - the sort of thing you mention does not exist. Conditions affect all stats that are shown - and the combined stats in 15 are only calculations of the player's regular stats. There are certain parameters in dt18 that can affect certain playstyles in some PES versions (not known about 15 at this time), but there are no hidden stats that are hidden from view by KONAMI that would go in with the Speed and whatnot stats.
Furthermore, there are no bytes allocated to these supposed hidden stats in any save version for any PES - we have mapped PES's save, after all.
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>>555861339
>>555861556
>>555862768
Why are there gaps between everything?
>>
>0 days since Beebs last talked about breeding people
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>>555851676
What do you think has happened to all the posters over the past year as the post rate has declined site wide? Dead, filtered by the captcha, scared off by the hack, etc?
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>>555851676
When will /admin/ have the BALLS to ban CMFs? Fuckass players, not good enough to be medals but not bad enough to be an actual defender, FUCK CMFS
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>>555851676
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>>555851676
More teams, more variety, more possibilities of hat pick """">winner"""", that will only matter once someone here >bees the change and turn any efootball games into PES! So the real question is, which of these two will happen first? Going to a PES beyond 21, or all teams (except for /ic/) actively participating in the Cup?
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>>555865825
>>555851676
Is this a bird?
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>>555866110
Maybe
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>>555851676
I implore you to reconsider
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>>555851676
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>>555851676
Shiddy
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>>555851676
who ya got for the owl, Seahawks or Patriots?
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>>555851676
Thoughts on https://x.com/GrapeApe9k/status/2017695126508986867 ?
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>>555851676
Not to be a numbersfag, but why do you think this cup has had less viewers?
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Thoughts of this?
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>>555851676
Who is the Zhuge Liang of 4CC?
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>lets move on from this question we were on it for 20 minutes
>start talking about the same thing on the next question
classic fb
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>>555851676
answer the question
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FUYCL
>>555851676
Could we have a wiki page that's listing all of the teams that are currently dead/under a caretaker/autos to let people know easily which teams can be saved?
>>
updated team roster image!
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>>555852118
Hiro allowed one meta thread per team and the mods said, fuck that, and pretty much ignored his order. the only way to convince him would be selling him the idea he can set up a 4chan store
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>>555867427
Speaking of Hiro ideas, did anything ever come from his 4chan vtuber idea? That's the last time I remember him actually engaging with the site.
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>>555851676
Post your gains, Sou.
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>>555859134
madoka has thin eyebrows you know
anything thicker or darker than this will look off
>>
Wife in chat
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[PES news] PES 15 raped, forgotten and thrown into the garbage after the next cycle is over
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>>555867935
???
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>>555867965
>after the next cycle is over
fuck off
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>>555851676
Are you in proper rape form yet Sou? Instead of Weedman you gotta start being Saladman for once
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>yeah we know 15 sucks but we'll run 2 more cups on it because we can't admit our mistake
stunning and brave from /admin/
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>>555867670
he tried before it exploded in popularity so nobody gave a shit and just dropped the idea
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>>555868223
>yeah we know 15 sucks and half of /admin/ wants to drop it* but we'll run 2 more cups on it because we can't admit our mistake
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>>555851676
What was Sou thinking with that WWE elite draw? It denied half of the possible matchups.
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>>555851676
look, just don't be bitch ass pussies and start banning tactics, is that simple
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>>555868585
Sounds about right.
Guess the better question is who's gonna buy 4chan when Hiro eventually puts it up for sale?
>>
5 medals confirmed for next cup regardless of PES version.
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>>555869034
Based.
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>>555868784
the feds are actually paying for this site to keep us in lists.
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>>555852371
>>555851676
inb4sickbassline
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>>555851676
If /pw/ win Winter, Sou IS REQUIRED to acknowledge his tribal chief.
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>>555869206
That goes without saying, but they still need to keep up the pretense.
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>>555851676
Why is Winnie the Pooh on /h/?
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>>555869762
He was raped by a mob of Ork boyz in da gruttin' hot summer of 40,000
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>>555858210
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>>555851676
hey /admin/, could you make me a sandwich?
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>>555851676
Fishing levels?
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>>555851676
S W I S S S Y S T E M
W
I
S
S

S
Y
S
T
E
M
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>>555851676
We need MORE cups, revive ded teams, bring on new teams, FUCK THE STREAMERS, WE NEED 6 CUPS A YEAR
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>>555851676
>blinky says he despite /mlp/
Well he sure love to mention them every single first bait wether they play or not. That's quite obsessive imo.
>>
congragulations
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>>555851676
If /trashccg/ can put together some models before Friday can they play in the spoon match?
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>>555851676
I've said this before ITT, but after the recent /sp/ win and /mlp/'s last winter, I genuinely do not think any team will get a reaction beyond a defeated "Well It was going to happen eventually". The only team that might get something of a bigger reaction out of people is genuinely /vt/ if they ever win an elite. Bonus Points if the /jp/ managers are partially responsible in someway for the first /vt/ star where they'll be writing a group suicide note to Sou.
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>>555851676
who the fuck is oab and metaraka
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>>555871507
newypow
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>>555871507
ask them in the chat sangen
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>>555871771
mm, nyo
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>>555871507
Someone post the "today I will remind them" copypasta about metaraka
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>>555854124
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>>555854124
huh wyat do nyou myean?
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>>555851676
Why was Sou at the /zzz/ meetup?
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>some people have always wanted /vt/ to embrace being the bad guy
>they play intentionally bad songs to piss you off
>it works
good heel work. could get a run on top in New York
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>>555855317
/co/ here.. the later
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>>555869762
>>555869913
From this post
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/5043955/#5051495
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>>555855535
/trick/
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>>555851676
Why is it called an oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food?
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>>555874727
I got stupider from trying to read that. Good work
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>>555851676
Who is the 1. FC Köln of the 4CC?
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>>555851676
you're telling me some guy spent hours doing actual jiggle physics on pes 15 and now you're going to shelve it?
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>>555858472
I haven't killed myself yet
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>>555851676
Someone explain why "and DANTEH WITH THE HEADER" became a meme
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>>555851676
Which team is the Wakatakakage of the 4cc?
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FB QnA summary (only up to here >>555852416 because I got bored)
>/n/ was allowed to play because their caretaker didn't get interest
>/admin/ is split on salvaging or leaving 15, leans toward salvaging
>Crimson wants 16
>Sou and Boris want people to tell them how to fix 15 instead of just hating it
>Foreground suggests using 16 or 17 while 15 is fixed in the background
>Sou will test patching 15 but only if stat autism doesn't work
>GSSBB confirmed regardless of 15 or 16
>return to 14 less likely since the return to 15 has been bad
>Collie won't be punished beyond needing to wait 6 months to change teams but is a bitch
>4cc will never change from babby/elite because Crimson doesn't like the VGL, spent longer talking about making the fetus bigger
>/admin/ will poll /4ccg/ if they need filler teams for a babby
>Sou wants to fix pressing on 15, asked Triangle how he looks at stats
>once the cup goes back to Fox, 15 is likely to be abandoned. many technical limitations that show up on stream and require much worse models. 14 similar to 15
>rules will never change between babbies and elites because the babby teams would be hurt by it
>if you merged fun babbies and unfun elites you would just make babbies worse instead of elites better
>Crimson confirms the /v/ spoon
>can make 14 work only if people actually want it
These guys are so much more boring than ASS
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>>555851676
Does sou mind being called a retard all the time?
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>>555877435
Ass rentry?
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>>555877435
>>555851676
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>>555877426
>well liked and won once, but is never going to win again
/wsg/
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>>555877610
Before Weegee starts
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>>555851676
4cc but it's just Nekopara
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>>555851676
Open the team poll on the disc so we can name and shame
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>>555851676
Wolfie did nothing wrong
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>>555878193
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>>555851676
Favorite F95 game ?
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FB has way more long pauses of silence than ASS wtf
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>>555851676
Has anyone heard of this girl named Amelia?...Seems kinda based actually...
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>>555851676
Who is the Janetty?
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>>555878728
Pippin
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>>555851676
no no no no you misunderstand, changing the pes on the elites is to make the elites FUNNER to watch, because teams are adapting and testing new tactics, this cup fucking SUCKS because everyone is copying the BORING ASS tactics that ""worked"" previously. changing the pes to the elites will make them funner to watch instead of the dimeless babbys.
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>>555878889
But all the babby teams are beating the elites. Other than /pw/ and /sp/ who haven’t copied tactics
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>>555878889
I agree that the new PES should start on the elites, however the winter elite teams are not really a good example because most of them ate shit
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>>555878996
I don't care about which pot of teams does the best I just want the cup to be fun
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>>555878996
it don matta, what matters is that there is a tactic stagnation which makes the matches boring to watch, autumn was fine because there was more variety.
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>>555879334
What variety? Final day were all 433, most of those are one match away from an elite final day too.
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>>555879552
Final day was not all 433
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>>555851676
Check the last two numbers of your post
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>>555851676
Commissioner Fatass: go work out, NYOW!!! EYAT THE SALAD OR YOU WON'T GET HIM!!!!
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>>555851676
The President of the US raped children.
The President of the US raped children.
The President of the US raped children.
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>>555851676
Who is the Visa Cash App Racing Bulls Formula One Team of the 4cc?
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>>555851676
That child? It was >>555880857 of course
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>>555877435
>/n/ was allowed to play because their caretaker didn't get interest
What does that even mean?
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>>555851676
Thoughts on this gif?
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>>555851676
why waste a bullet on someone who's already dead?
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>>555881108
Pilky on /mu/
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>>555877435
>4cc will never change from babby/elite because Crimson doesn't like the VGL, spent longer talking about making the fetus bigger
It's crazy how raped one man can be. You think you get touched in a no no place once, and you're marked as raped. But this man is collecting different kind of rapes like a stamp collection.
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>>555851676
I miss Seigmann, is he doing well or am I not allowed to ask?
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>>555877435
Shit will never change, cup is fucking cooked, i am out
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>>555851676
Which team is the 4cc of the 4cc?
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>>555851676
Which team is the /qst/ of the 4cc?
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>>555877435
>4cc will never change from babby/elite because Crimson doesn't like the VGL, spent longer talking about making the fetus bigger
Genuinely fucking retarded reasoning. Why is Crimson turning out to be the next Blinky?
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>randomly got this in the middle of the stream
Are you fucking serious, Google?
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>>555881090
/n/'s caretaker didn't get interest for the POI that was due because he thought there was no interest. Since /n/ at one point in time in the past had interest /admin/ allowed them to play anyways. So by not getting interest /n/ was allowed in the cup, whereas if they had attempted to get interest and it proved to be non-existent then /n/ wouldn't have been allowed in.
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>>555851676
Thoughts on Paval being drunk?
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>>555851676
Why do you even bother doing this if the answers are "no change, we do whatever the fuck we want" every time?
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>>555851676
Would crimson prove how evil he is by eating a kitten?
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>>555881729
I mean a couple of them prefer 16 to 15 so that's kinda cool even though we know Sou will stay on 15
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>>555878728
Can you guys ban Canada?
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>>555851676
Has Pilky figured out what a concession timeout is yet?
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>>555851676
This is the last question. But it isn't a question.
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>>555851676
Whoosh you are now free.
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>>555851676
wrap it up I want to go to bed
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>>555851676
Thoughts on QD and Epstein jerking it off to FNAF porn?
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>>555851676
Paval can you stop drinking? Sou needs it because HE'S FAT!!!!!
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>>555851676
I have an idea, we should patch PES 15!
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>>555881729
Really struck a nerve with this one
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>>555851676
Why are most memevitationals use the same teams over and over again?
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>>555851676
Beside OaB, is there any other guy we know who died?
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>>555882068
me
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>>555851676
let the italian IN you cowards
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>>555851676
gay
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MAMMA MIA
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love you guys
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>>555882592
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[First Boom News]Potato hates transitioning
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>>555882773
Arisu anal sex
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>>555882773
Anal sex
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>>555882773
your womb didn't reject my seed, arisu
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>>555882846
heterosexual post
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>>555882832
homosexual posts
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>>555883082
>>555883082
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>>555877435
>Sou and Boris want people to tell them how to fix 15 instead of just hating it
It's so funny because people did exactly this and they didn't pay attention at all. The rules needed to be changed before Autumn, like people discussed having 5 medals beforehand or about how slurpy the game was. Nope, same rules since they rushed it. Same exact deal with Winter; they could have changed shit after Autumn. It's only NOW that Crimson's teams got spooned that /admin/ asks "Why didn't you tell us how to fix it?"
So now we have to magically fix a shit PES with a silver bullet ruleset within 2 months instead of starting with a better one in Autumn in the first place.

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