they will complain about this format, but refuse to make a new thread even if the last one stayed on page 10 due to bump limit for a month

>>555856620
I was thinking a thicc asteroid belt around vulcanus would strike a nice balance. Make the player work to get to those easy infinite resources.

>>555857424
Just linking this from the old thread for some help/ideas

>>555857346
fuck off faggot
use the proper subject
>wait 987529084 seconds before making a new thread

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>>555857163
Drones and vessels only serve logistics stations. They don't interact with the player or regular storage boxes (depots,chests w/e the fuck they're called)
BOTS only serve the player OR a chest with a logistic distrubuter attached on top.

Webm related
Left side box is set to supply. Right side box is set to demand

>>555858008
>Have to calculate power usage
Man fuck this chink game. Why i so addicted to this shit?

>>555857680
I remember using the good ol' pair of bulk inserters that somehow coordinate themselves just right to let a single piece of uranium through without any circuits.

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>>555858278
Just slap down another solar cock ring and you're g2g. These little bots shouldn't be stressing your system all that much.

>>555858776
NTA but when could you make power sources next to each other?
Or maybe solar panels always could and i'm a retard too used to wind units and thermal.

>>555858776
This is pre-Dark fog right? Since you can't pull that kind of project off without getting your constructs raped every 2 minutes

>>555859020
Wind needs room between each one to function.
>>555859169
Yeah and it's not my webm. It's from back when it first released. You could easily protect it with a turret ring stretched alongside it.

>>555859169
You can put them on the poles instead. Only two places to defend, and don't need as many panels either cause they have over 50% uptime.

>>555859169
But you can just kick the dark fog out of your planet and shield it all up

dark fog is so underwhelming I turned it off
chinksects can't make good games

>>555863120
How do you get the "secret" tech without the shitty fog

>>555860771
is this with or without space age?

>>555863120
I think it could be great if they changed the starting conditions, right now it's either a total pushover or cock and ball torture, not much in between. There definitely shouldn't be any fog on the starting planet because early defense is ass and that's what makes it impossible to balance it with mid-late game. Then make more fog spawn in systems further from the center and it starts working fine.

>>555860771
Seems a little close for trains, that pipe wouldn't even need a pipe.

I would just rush construction bots and rebuild, instead of restarting the game.

>>555865336
no such thing as too short a railway

>>555866059
wouldn't even need a pump*

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>>555857003
I bought Stormworks, started building a boat, and somehow accidentally created a speed ferry. Send help.

>Four fucking Vitamix planets in my Space Exploration starting system
Do Iron and Copper planets spawn outside the Calidus system or was I just really unlucky?

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>>555872383
Yippie.

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>>555873681
Yappy?

>>555863474
Late game I just spam ships like it's an episode of Legend of The Galactic Heros, and early game I get my balls crushed like it's the christmas rush at the nutcracker factory. The whole combat thing is just very shitty in general.

>>555872383
could you please make the webm a bit smaller? It takes up too much space when I open it on screen

Any factorio mods that lock you to a different planet?
Kinda like the any start mod but more like turning spage off but instead of nauvis being the only planet, you get be only ever on gleba or whatever with minor tweaks if needed to make it wor

where's the uhhh
list of servers/games pastebin
i think there were two but i forget what the other was
the first was important because that's where the door to pyserb was (i don't actually want to play more py right now but still)

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>>555882018
There is literally a mod called Only Gleba where every other planet exploded. While Gleba has uranium and scrap (scrap needs lube to mine) shit like calcite, tungsten, and lithium needs space platforms to travel to and process the chunks of the exploded planets

>>555873681
Looks cool anon, stormworks is top tier.
How fast does it go?

>>555884008
>Only Gleba
>has resources unique to other planets
>has the other planet unique resources in space for you to use
and that is literally not what i want buddy i also knew about the mod already which is why i was hoping for one more in line with what i said
also no point in that mod, might as well just use the any planet start mod if you wanted what that mod you posted does

>>555879123
Get a bigger screen.

>>555882018
i don't understand what you want
does gleba start not cover your case? you can just choose to not leave

>>555886496
so imagine facotrio base game, but instead of nauvis being the planet they made for it, it was vulcanus or gleba or whatever and none of the others exist
Obviously with a tech tree that makes sense to allow a nice flow of progession and unlocks
so none of that bullshit of adding uranium to the planet or whatever other unique resource from a planet you didnt pick

>>555884867
Would you want a copy of it to test can post xml

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>try to build a maintenance airlock for the Vulcan hot gas cavern in Stationeers
>every time the blast door opens things get spicy
>2H2+O2 spicy
>pretty cool, to be honest
>do the maintenance, aka redoing piping for larger throughput
>jetpack back into the airlock
>hm, console's dead
>so are the doors and vent
>huh?
>crowbar the wall panel
>there's_your_problem_right_there.avi
>all the wiring's gone
>huh? x2 Combo
>check stationpedia
>cable flashpoint is 140°C
Welp, time to re-wire the cunt so it doesn't combust when I descend into the lukewarm 630°C gas storage cavern.
Gotta work fast too, since the tools are melting there, perfectly fixable with a roll of tape.
Yes, I'm retarded, but I'm also having fun, !!FUN!! even.

Also, terrain tool makes for some nice and cheap dirt walls that cut down on resource costs of this thing.

>>555884867
>>555887396
Double Wheel
https://files.catbox.moe/zkkewk.xml
Middle Wheel
https://files.catbox.moe/3cuoui.xml

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>>555887979
boats are fun

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>>555887426
>replace the wiring
>the fucking circuit board melted in the console
>okay, maybe I'll switch to external IC contr-
>all the switches, buttons, and levers are combusting at a crisp 100°C
They really should make tougher stuff for the spicy conditions.
630°C is just a nice sunny day on Vulcan, and my cavern barely breaks 660°C.

All this fancy technology and I still have to crowbar the doors manually.
It's like I'm on a beaten-up station after supermatter went kabloey.

>>555888250
>>555888250
Wasn't there an anon making a steam powered hydrofoil?

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>>555888250
Chainboat? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_aGLdG98h4

>>555889493
Ah, trains. Is there a medium they can't traverse?
>inb4: space
Space elevator trains.

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I just received a transmission from a decaying orbit around a gas giant. The source of the transmission I’ve identified as ‘Lemon Hulk.’

>>555891363
Bullshit. Let the dead rest.

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I don't know why I made this. I guess it'll be handy if I ever need to fire 800 full size shells in 20 seconds... And then do it again 20 seconds later.

>>555888430
How is your hot room gas mixing with oxygen? Are you not using an advanced airlock chip to properly separate the gasses?

>>555896271
>I guess it'll be handy if I ever need to fire 800 full size shells in 20 seconds... And then do it again 20 seconds later.
Only if you can build a vehicle to carry it tackleberry

>>555897917
I had the bright idea to add some from the portable tank off the lander.
Y'know, to heat things up a bit, since it was around 510°C at the time.
>and did it work?
You bet it did. It's a big cavern, with lots of gas, and now it's sitting at 660°C.
Mind you, I didn't dump all the oxy. I'm not THAT much of a retard, just a canister worth.

In retrospect, it was a silly idea from the start, but I enjoyed fucking with it.
I'm gonna move the hot gas into a large insulated tank next to the furnace.
I removed the stirling engines for now, so it's the only thing that'd be using it, for now anyway.
I'm planning on switching to making proper fuel mixes for the hydrogen burner in the future.
The water that comes out of it is hot enough to smelt most of the stuff, and smelting will cool it.
And if it's still hot, I'll put it through the engines to get some power out of it.
Then some cooling to remove water, scrub the oxygen, and release the rest into the air.

The soon-to-be-empty cavern will be used for coolant storage instead.
I'll squeeze it out of the night air, then dump it into the cavern.
Then cool and evaporate it until it's sitting at low temps.
>Are you not using an advanced airlock chip to properly separate the gasses?
I tried. It melted in the console. Big downside of blast doors is their lack of a built-in console, like the doors and airlocks have.

>>555898795
Storing liquids like the cold pollutant in world is not worth it at all. They have a fraction of the mols/L in world compared to being inside pipes/tanks. Don't ask me why, devs are retarded and thought it would be a good idea.

>>555899959
They said because it would be very difficult to obtain enough liquid to actually do anything with it.

Which is true, but they should've thought of that before implementing the pointless system.

>>555900327
>They said because it would be very difficult to obtain enough liquid to actually do anything with it.
Preemptive balancing for skill issues is pretty retarded if you ask me.

>>555896271
your fps?

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>>555896271
Shove it in a tiny monitor ship

>>555899959
Maybe, but drain + active/powered vent beats purge valves in throughput for evaporation cooling.
And I have enough volume to store as much as I need several times over, regardless of space inefficiency.

I might actually scale this thing down, come to think of it.
It made sense for hot gas to have lots of space, but liquids won't need nearly as much.
Especially the ones that need >1MPa pressure to stay liquids.
On the other hand, I could simply use the space for both storage and processing.
Volatiles would provide the pressure needed. CO2 has to go, given it's specific heat.

>>555902187
Yeah evaporative cooling works great in rooms, really efficient too if you recompress it into a pipe after it has evaporated and vent the excess that doesn't condense. But for storage it just plain sucks and an insulated liquid tank will hold tons more than a room ever could.

>>555882603
in the proper thread >>555858113

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What is it with these disconnected systems in DSP?
Can I still travel to them or do I need some special technology for them? What do the lines even represent, all spacetravel is just freeflight anyway, right?

>>555907121
The lines between systems are purely visual, they have no relevance at all. With a warp drive, you can go wherever you want.

>>555908379
"Foggers could be here..." He thought to himself.

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>>555901937
Silky smooth 60fps. Does take a while to update when I snip or reattach one of the branches, though.

>>555907121
pretty sure that's just the initial 4.5ly distance you can roughly go on one fully charged reactor when you unlock warp drive for the first time

I just got to the space platform part in factorio and wanted to know how much more tedious is it going to be when I'm getting to other planets?
All the moving items around with platform is just putting me off the expansion and of it needs to be coordinated with all planets to move science I'm just going to play something else

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What do we think of this game

>>555919832
Platforms are just space trains that you can build.
Set them up once and you can leave them to work the routes you set up.
Unlike actual trains, you've no limit to how many can occupy the orbit.

Landing pad and hub have their throughput limits, though.
However, cargo modules don't just provide space, they also boost that throughput.

The checklist for platforms is as follows:
>frontal firepower to carve a path through asteroids when moving
>side firepower to cover flanks when stationary
>on-board ammo production
>on-board fuel production & storage
>engine fuel supply throttling to control speed (read: give frontal turrets more time to break up big rocks)

Ammo and weapon types change as you progress.
Yellow bullets will be enough for Vulcanus and Fulgora, Gleba might be risky without some damage and fire rate research.
Switch to red bullets once you get to Gleba and you should be fine around the inner system.

Work toward getting rocket turrets and ammo, you'll need those to reach Aquilo.
Shattered planet will have you bring a mix of railguns, rockets, and some bullet turrets to mop up the leftovers.
Naturally, you'll need to produce all the ammo on the platform.
Since you can't put chests on platforms, your only option for storage is cargo module extensions for the hub, and using up that extra space to buffer ammo.

I can't overstate the benefits of learning circuits for managing things on your platforms.
It's the one area where, while not strictly necessary, are HIGHLY beneficial when applied.

The only science that needs a speedy delivery is agricultural science from Gleba.
Build a dedicated express delivery platform for that one, regular platforms can handle the rest.

>>555923998
well now I wish I played without the dlc, if there was a teleportation science like in riftbreakers it would be ok but trains in space is just boring to me.

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lol
lmao

>>555902158
shoving such a massive fuckhueg weapon on a tiny ass ship wouldn't work well, especially if it ends up being the only weapon on said ship
the weapon is too impractical to be put on anything
put several of it on a battleship and it'd be too expensive whilst lagging your pc to shit, put one on a small ship and it'd get 1HKO'd immediately

>>555925360
>put several of it on a battleship and it'd be too expensive
It costs two and a half million materials. I think we're way past "too expensive" meaning anything at this point.

>put one on a small ship and it'd get 1HKO'd immediately
It should be noted that weapon itself is not volatile. Every autoloader has ejectors, and the shells have emergency defuses.

>>555922667
Pretty good
You don't need to shore up walls when you mine, just dig straight down right next to bodies of water

>>555925360
>put one on a small ship and it'd get 1HKO'd immediately
If you bring it in with a bigger boat (lol) next to it, it will never get shot at.

>>555863474
Current dark fog has a ton of missing ground units. There's either supposed to be different nests or when they level up they get far more dangerous. Hopefully they do a balance pass when in releases in 3033

>>555922667
Very good. Devs need to hurry up an release the trains actually worth using instead of the tiny ones we have now.

>>555922667
love/hate relationship
So many ways to get into a death spiral is stressing me out even if nothing happens. And I don't like the idea of constantly spending limited resources just to stay alive.

Also, building stuff "for fun" feels bad because you're just wasting a bunch of maintenance and crew (with furniture, medicine, etc.) on an experiment.

>>555936327
It actively punishes you for expanding, like Megafactory Titan or The Crust. Very weird.

>>555896271
My vote is on cutting it in half. Instead of one turret with two stacks of loaders, have two turrets with one stack of loaders. The slimmer profile would be easier and cheaper to defend.
As for actual implementation, have a look at the Onyx Watch Stronghold if you'd like an idea on fitting fukhueg pies into a ship. Otherwise, especially if you're keeping the turret a "double decker," a flying saucer built around these could be neat.

>>555931191
depends on how the AI is setup, they might prioritize weapons threat more than overall size

>>555936327
So you can't just chill in a self sustaining position while stocking up on resources?
Does the game actively push you to do stuff or it kills your run?
Sounds pretty rough.

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>>555902187
>move as much hot gas into the big insulated tank as I can
>there's still a shitload of hot gas left in the cavern
>fuck it, I got as much as I need
>plus, I'd rather fill it up with >1k°C solar storm air now anyway
>crowbar the internal blast door
>*FWOOOOOSH*
>a gout of flames blasts out of it, as if the gates of Hell itself have burst open
>takes 5 days to fully vent the contents of the cavern
>I weep for all the energy I could've gotten out of it
>alas, I didn't put down any engines to make use of it
>fuck it, at least I have tracking solars
Gotta wait one more day until it stops trying to launch me into the stratosphere.
Definitely have to scale this bitch down, 4562L capacity might be a bit too much.
Even with all the inefficiencies of in-world liquid storage.
It'll take forever to pressurize it to even 2MPa.

>>555940468
NTA but there really isn't a self sustaining position into very far into lategame where you can just start dropping asteroids with resources onto your island, and even then I'm not willing to trust it
Now, some settings let you put some stuff as infinite via world mines, and mixing that with contracts lets you get infinite iron and copper very quickly, but the game itself really is just fighting my factory game brain on every front

>>555940468
>>555940798
Everything has always been infinite through trade contracts. Asteroids were just the latest fancy alternative for infinite ore.

>>555940468
You can technically run out of resources but you have to go out of your way to do so. Maybe on the smallest map you'd have to worry 500+ years into the game. You unlock recycling which once fully researched gives you 75% of the materials back that you used for research,maintenance,and city supplies (this is basically all that resources are for beyond constructing new buildings)

You unlock trade with other island early on and can set up trade deals where you export some higher tier item in exchange for raw resources. So if you have a ton of iron but need oil you can turn it into construction parts and export it. Eventually you can make self sustaining loops where you're trading quite a few different items in exchange for all the raw resources in the game. It's net-positive too so you won't run out.

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current base is going well
got the iron ore train going, automated blue science, etc
need to the copper, coal and stone trains up and running next and then I can get started on purple and gold science, as well as blue circuits and setting the stage for a much more sustainable space age than last time
feels good man

>>555887041
You can always turn uranium gen off and download the uranobacteria mod

>>555947641
Is this on steam deck or something? Why did you take a picture of your screen

>>555940468
you can chill in a stable position, but not in a self-sustainable one
if you wanna be a modern economy you gotta trade, until you find a way to summon resources

>>555940759
It's probably better to just have a very large terrain box with natural atmospheric pressure, and just open a door.

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Hi guys, new Factorio player here.
I'm trying to find a way to convert two full belts into a single mixed belt without the inputs giving priority to a single lane, for when I want to craft something that needs two materials.
I came up with this, but I'm wondering if there's an easier way to do it since this seems a bit clunky.

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This is my new engineer-chan. Say something nice to her.

>>555953615
My instinct is that it's easier to lane balance the input belt that you care about, since normally lane balancing doesn't really matter.
Out of curiosity, why are you lane balancing in this case?

>>555954734
Because he's a new player

>>555950129
it's my laptop, I post on my phone, and it's easier to just take a pic than take a screenshot and then send it to my phone
I'm lazy and take the path of least resistance

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>>555954327
She has a nice butt

>>555954734
>My instinct is that it's easier to lane balance the input belt that you care about
Can you explain? I thought that was what I was doing
>Out of curiosity, why are you lane balancing in this case?
I'm not sure, I tried something different at first and noticed that only one lane was being consumed. I figured that having it balanced would probably be better, no? If the input of this was coming from a drill column, only the drills on one side of the belt would be working, for example.

>>555955541
I think it's kind of selfish - it's slightly easier for you to post, but now your post looks much worse to everyone else.
>>555956085
>I'm not sure, I tried something different at first and noticed that only one lane was being consumed. I figured that having it balanced would probably be better, no? If the input of this was coming from a drill column, only the drills on one side of the belt would be working, for example.
It's not that you're only consuming one side, you're only consuming one side first. If you end up consuming the whole first lane, the other lane will be used just fine.

>>555948580
Anon doesnt want any of the other planets resources i think
I think he just wants a vanilla game but as if the devs made one of the other planets as the starter planet but without any space age stuff so they just have to launch a rocket to win

>>555956085
Just scale up production to use the resources from both belt sides
The only time you should bother with lane balancing is when it is limiting production due to how items move on belts when you make a turn with them and unless you are going for ups saves it really isnt an issue that just making more and adding another lane wont fix

>>555956785
>It's not that you're only consuming one side, you're only consuming one side first. If you end up consuming the whole first lane, the other lane will be used just fine.
Hmmm, I see...

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>>555953615
Thanks, I needed that stroke as much as I need my chronic headaches.

>>555957917
NICE!

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>>555957917
>>555958315
Never mind

>>555957131
>I think he just wants a vanilla game but as if the devs made one of the other planets as the starter planet but without any space age stuff so they just have to launch a rocket to win
So...wouldn't that just be a "start anywhere" planet mod since you have to launch rockets before you can get other planet's resources anyway?

>>555960005
Sounds like he just wants to stay on the planet without the ability to temptation to ever go to another planet

>>555960593
Oh this is one of those "you control the buttons you press" situations. Ok

>>555959174
you're trying to fit 2 belts worth of content into 1 belt, it will only work if the single belt is x2 speed

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>>555891363
Lemon Hulk, this is Big Citrus, do you read me?

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laying rail lines is kind of boring desu
the grappling hook mod helps a lot though

>>555971973
Someone has a copy of the lemon hulk??

>>555976062
I made a blueprint that's just absolutely aligned roboports (that doesn't ever overlap my rails). That way I never need to place anything myself manually, I just can have everything in roboport coverage.
It does take a nonzero amount of power though, so ideally you want nuclear before then (or like 80+ steam engines).

>>555976062
Oh man did you lay them without a personal roboport?

Building the initial rail network is always the nadir of any Factorio playthrough, doing it without bots sounds like hell

>>555954327
>>555956085
Game and circuit logic Y/N?

>>555979770
>>555977730
I haven't gotten that far in research yet, I don't mind too much bc I already made the roundabout blueprints, though I did forget to put signals in so I have to add those by hand but it's not too bad plus it lets me tailor it to each intersection
I still need to make the mining and unloading stations for copper, stone, coal, and uranium too. I did make an unloading blueprint though, so that should be relatively painless save for uranium bc of the sulfur

>>555971973
That's not in the archieves.

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The glebbing will continue until moral improves

I gotta figure out some way of protecting my farms before I actually set one up. I don't think I can fend off a single stomper even with turrets

>>555991146
Have you tried stormworks?

>>555996596
I have not. Can you build trains, planes, trucks, boats, spacecraft and farm?

>>555999414
Surprisingly yes. Even allows you to farm fish, and lobster

>the year is 3208
>the B-52 is being re-fitted with a warp drive

>>555891363
real?
catbox it please

>>556002950
the re-egined b52 is a mess. The perfect opportunity to put 4 normal engines on it and they fucked it up. Maybe they were worried about ground clearance.

>>556000263
F
uh. is that a jet engine on the roof.

>>555924984
what mod

>>556004538
ground clearance, aerodynamics, wing flexing, electrical/pneumatic/hydraulic systems...
they'd have to redesign so much, while working with so many outdated inflexible systems, that it becomes prohibitively expensive
might as well design a new aircraft at that point
there's a video about it, but it doesn't get right to the point like I would prefer
youtube.com/watch?v=pbCeKNcr6Wk

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>>556005524
>might as well design a new aircraft at that point
Impossible. They can only maintain things built by the ancients during the Dark Age of Technology.
The ancients could send a man into space, now we can't even sand a man across the country without something going wrong.
It was the globohomo that decided that technological advancement threatened their positions, so great effort was poured into halting it.

>>556005767
They CAN, it's just stupid expensive now.
See - F-35.

>>556006363
but why?

>>556006756
Bureaucratic capture/decay, I guess.
Same reason why everything is expensive, from healthcare (thanks insurance) to nuclear reactors (thanks bloated, excessive, and constantly changing regulation).

>>556006363
One of the problems with the f35 program is the manufacturing was deliberately spread out to as many states as possible so those state politicians would approve it. Plus there's literally a DEI program so the manufacture of f35 components must be done by as many niggers, women and faggots as possible.

>>556006756
I would guess because cost of labor has gone up significantly since those days. We cope with automation, but that's no possible in the design phase or for low-volume production.

It was the same for spaceships.

>>556006756
Why not? The job of the MIC isn't to deliver planes as cheaply as possible. As publicly traded companies their job is to maximize profits.

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>>556006756
This was in 1979.
https://www.dau.edu/sites/default/files/Migrate/ARJFiles/ARJ72/ARJ-72_Augustine.pdf

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How am I supposed to use all these cool weapons like the rocket launcher/flamethrower if the bugs run 60 mph?
I'm definitely approaching combat wrong because my plan is usually drive car in circles around enemy base while turret does the shooting, repeat until base is clear or I until I hit a rock and get swarmed.

>>556012058
no, you're doing it right
you should also be throwing grenades
maybe set up some turrets to retreat to
rocket launcher/flamethrower requires power armor and exoskeletons to be useful

>>556012058
Place down some turrets barely out of range, or throw out a fed defender capsules. Then you can move in with a rocket launcher and focus on the buildings, let the guns deal with incoming enemies.

Flamethrower kills enemies very quickly, and stays on the ground for a while too. But you may have trouble using it if there are too many worms to shoot you at range.

Or just rush combat tech. Tank, shield+personal laser or distractor capsule all make combat way easier.

>>556004781
lesbian lolis

>>556012747
wait, does the handheld flamethrower shoot puddles? I know the tank one just shoots a gust of flame without any aftereffects, which would be very cool if you didn't have to fucking tab through between the shit to use it

>>556006756
Everything in the universe is susceptible to diminishing returns. The more complex things become, the fewer % gain there is with every additional layer of complexity. This applies to bacteria, ecosystems, buffalo herds, jet engines, bureaucracies, ...

>>556016256
So why not make them less complex?

>>556014667
cool but for what purpose?

>>556016530
I like trucks, hate how limited trains are. I can go anywhere be anywhere and be aur lifted or tow anything

>>556016314
>making bureaucracies less complex
Jokes on you anon, the total entropy of the system can only increase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzCy5mffw8E

>>556016314
Because that complexity extracts a lot of money, some of which bribes the people in charge of it.

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>>556016314
Because making things less complex is more complex. Only a complete genius can create a simple system, and there are too few of them around.

Systems always get rushed toward the edge of failure and then balance over the abyss of disaster on the tips of their toes and by a single, slowly rusting, ISO 4762 bolt "... which previous inspection reports stated should have been replaced 4 months before the incident. However, due to a decision from plant management..."

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>>555940759
>capacity = reduced
>storage = filling
>magical realm = created
I don't know what I'm going to do with all this fucking pollutant, but I have thousands of liters of it now.
Depressurizing the airlock on exiting the cavern takes forever, though.
7562L ~6MPa voxel takes a while to drain with just a single vent.
Any ideas how to speed it up, besides adding more vents?
Also, I'm using AdvAirlock circuit, I don't think it can into multiple vents.
Normal airlock *might* be able to handle multiple vents, but it's not a certainty.
Must I make yet another control chip for the airlock alone?

>>556014594
It does, it can be super useful in some situations.

>>556018743
>Only a complete genius can create a simple system
Nocoder or UNIX fanboy detected.

>>555857003
>no hsg in the OP

gay OP, kys

>>556012058
>Rocket Launcher
Those are for peppering nests and worms at a safe distance. You'll still aggro the biters, but you'll be able to switch up to your flamethrower by the time they get to you

>Flamethrower
>>556014594
If you've got enough shields equipped, you can just facetank damage and run right into the biters while spamming the thing. The puddles also leave behind a small amount of pollution (regardless of whether or not they set something else on fire) which can attract biters to it before they aggro you.

>>556006363
>F-35
Is that supposed to be expensive? Poland bought thirty of them.

>>556019000
You could try getting liquid inlets to zucc the piss

>>556023198
I did an even bigger silly by just straight-up sucking in the air.
Rather than using radiator'd length of pipe to squeeze the pollutant out into the liquid network.
Which would then carry it into the underground storage full of pure pollutant.

While my "setup" gives lots of gas for pressurization, the carbon dioxide makes cooling it all that much harder.
I dropped a scrubber down there, along with some filters to, eventually, get all the contamination out.
…it's gonna take a while. In the mean time, I need to redo both the cooling, and the suction sections.
I clearly wasn't thinking straight when I put this unholy abomination together.
Why the fucking did they have to make pollutants yellow? Fucking why?!
Who's the secret pissfag on the devteam? And please don't fucking tell me it's Dean-fucking-Hall himself.

>>556024563
I imagine because the POL icon was already yellow. And that one is meant to imitate a hazard sign.

>>556024935
It's so fucking over.

>>555926283
>Every autoloader has ejectors, and the shells have emergency defuses.
Anyone got a rule of thumb when to use them? Currently mine is
>2m or less long shells
>either surface mounted or behind 5m worth of armour

>>556025881
I don't put any ejectors
If the gun gets hit and explodes, then it gets hit and explodes

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>>556024935
>>556024563
I think pollutants are supposed to be something chlorine-like, but green was already in use for nitrogen.

>>556024563
>>556024935
It's literally chlorine. The melting and boiling point fit exactly.

>>556027642
That's not what literally means. Clearly the letters spell pollutant

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>>556000263

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>>556000263
I'm taking the advice of myself about turbines, the iso container that someone built here with it's 7 turbines don't output the same as two large steam pistons.

Now two large steam pistons are more compact and effective for what they give you oppose to turbines.

Just making this thing work-able for career so i can repair it.

>>555985142
What archives are YOU looking at? Searching for the MD5 already goes back to at least 2019, and I've (different guy here) got a copy that dates back to 2016

Factorio planets should have moons and we should be able to mass driver resources between them.

>>556031804
ok retard

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>>556043160
meanie

>>556027012
Pollutant is Hydrogen.

>>556044752
no that's volatiles
and not quite, since it doesn't burn cleanly

iirc hydrogen is in the game files already, but not obtainable ingame

>>556044854
forgot there were two of them.
then yeh, vol is H, pol is Cl

methane?

Recording today.
Again, for those who struggle with circuits, what general issues are you having?

>>556019000
Well. You could just throw it away. Or you could have a long chain of airlocks, each one halving the capacity so you can get through in a reasonable time. Or perhaps you could have a large ante-chamber maintained in vacuum between two pairs of airlocks, large enough for 6MPa to spread out to a more manageable pressure. 20 frame-sizes might be reasonable for that. You'd still have to wait for it to pump out if you wanted to re-use it

Cheat-wise maybe you can teleport via chairs?

>>556047398
Getting you to walk into a train.

I have never gotten any further than red cards.

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Anyone know of any interesting self-imposed challenges for a game like Satisfactory?

I saw someone do a "no remote power" run, where they didn't allow themselves to build isolated power plants. Every factory they build had to have on-site power facilities. I'm looking for more stuff like that. I'm open to other games, but I've played everything but Satisfactory to death already.

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I fucking hate junk in my upcycler.
You'd think that statistically it shouldn't clog.

>>556048736
Remain salty. The enlightenment shall come.

>>556044854
>>556044854
Volatiles are chloromethane. Burning it creates CO2 and chlorine.
They even have unfinished hydrogen gas in the game as a separate thing, it's just not obtainable.

>>556052696
Not if I cut your cables.

>>556049950
I route the items into chests after they get recycled. Just on a quality basis, but materials that have a substantially larger amount of items in the recipe get their own dedicated chest. Still susceptible to clogging, but takes a substantially longer amount of time to do it.

Also, is there a reason why you're using long-handed inserters to grab them off the sushi instead of moving the belt 1 tile closer so you can use better inserters?

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Now that factorio has epic and legendary items they should consider adding another fan favorite way to get them.

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>>556057093
>protonium
a truly magical time

>>556056571
No real reason, they just grab items earlier than fast inserters.

>>556057946
Long inserters aren't that much better than just using Yellow inserters because of how slowly they rotate, so you either need to spam a lot of them to make it work, or eat the throughput problems associated with using those to pull materials into the machine. They're best used for pulling items out of machines, or when you have no option other than to use them.

You could probably compensate by putting them in rows of 5, or 10 in the case of the Epic Beacon EMP, but I'd ask myself if it were worth doing that instead of moving the belt closer and using fast inserters (or Bulk, if those are available to you)

is quality even worth researching

>>556057750
>Ducktales (NES) - The Moon

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>>556060046
In Factorio? That depends.

The obvious answer is that it's objectively good. Crafting machines go faster which means you spend less energy on Speed modules, Power Poles get longer wires and more coverage, Turrets get bigger range, and Grabbers have every aspect of them upgraded. The ratios for Heat Exchangers:Turbines is also a lot more lenient with quality materials.

Personally, I grind for Rare until I unlock Legendary and kind of skip over Epic quality stuff. It's a lot nicer to use Rare Substations when building my factories, though Legendary is obviously a lot nicer since they don't get in the way nearly as much.

>>556060813
>Crafting machines go faster which means you spend less energy on Speed modules
(Also, so that you don't get the Quality penalty that Speed modules impose)

>>556060813
>The ratios for Heat Exchangers:Turbines
Don't forget the reactor itself, legendary makes 2.5 times as much power (fuel cost increases to match)

>>556060046
The largest benefit comes from asteroid grabbers and personal stuff, armor, armor equipment, tank/weapons. But all of it is just nice to have, not mandatory.

Stationeering:
N: Green /egg/s and ham
P: Corneroids
I forgot what needed to be done, I am sure it won't be important

>>556063001
oh yea, the fire in the battery incident
And battery shenanigans

>Stationeers: The Multiplayer Update
>This update involves some highly technical work to improve how multiplayer works at a base level, focusing on how multiplayer updates are sent by hosts and received by clients. These changes target not just multiplayer bugs, but also have profound impacts on performance as well. Such changes will become very noticeable with larger bases in particular.
>Network messages 30% faster
>Desyncs fixed

You may need a page/swap file if low on RAM

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>>556063192
yeah right

>>556063192
really makes you wonder if the devs even played the game over the internet or if they just had a LAN connection between their craptops in their grandma's sheep farm

>>556063001
ever since you tried to kick anon to see if that would improve the connection i couldn't even talk on the server despite restarting twice

>>556065280
Restarted steam

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>>556065691
restarted steam as well, I still have a black screen and i cannot talk. I think my client data got corrupted at some point or something

>>556063001
Should I even bother and boot up the game or is shit too fucked since the update?

>>556067787
it works, somehow, but now i just lost connection out of nowhere

the respawn update has to be one of the shittiest decisions they made lately, and it's one of the rare deicision they made lately. Just let us use respawn points instead of dropping new capsules that blow up the base you fucking cunts

>>556067881
>Increasing graphics drops players
Good to know
I restarted again and will not touch options live
>>556067787
Other than that and changing workspaces "freezing" the game, Rocketwerks

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Technically no other processes right now have a purpose I already have the other 1k things. Do I just let the game run for hours on the background or upgrade everything to mk2?

>>556069618
filtered

>>556069730
That's one way to get me to upgrade everything to mk2

>>556069618
If you notice yourself waiting for something then you're playing the game wrong. Go cap another resource node and start making more stuff. Most of the elevator required items are also materials needed for the next level requirements, and if something does end up useless you can shove it into the resource sink for huge credit and buy what you need. Resources are infinite so it's a waste leaving them unused.

>>556071640
I'm using all nodes near me at mk1 at 100% capacity and my power is also unable to take anything else until I make more coal mines just starting with power I guess

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>finally get 1 bright uranium
>craft it into fuel
>remember the enrichment process
>check the research
>needs 40 bright uranium
fuck
getting closer to having the rail network functioning with all stops, only need to bring coal online if at all, since the demand for coal so far hasn't ever fallen short of supply. still, better to set it up before I need it

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https://mods.factorio.com/mod/wormholes-new-game-plus

>mod lets you do a clean reset on everything except for research and whatever you're hauling on a platform
>fuck it my spaghetti is atrocious. install mod and start on Nauvis with legendary foundries and substations
>start building train base with no bus, only stations and the occasional snake leading materials to directly-adjacent stations (bricks to walls for instance)

I think that 2 green circuit stations with 3 skids per station (only 2 pictured here) pumping out circuits would be good, given how important green circuits are for production. Plan is to make a dedicated station for the molten copper/iron so that I can accommodate 2 trains for loading at a time and 8 per station in total. Also gotta tweak the length of each skid-- I don't care much about ratios, but a plain fact is that the ones at the end go idle in times of heavy activity.

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>>556060046
You should definitely research and get into quality at least for quality electric miners. Quality reduces their resource drain, so you can get extra ores per patch.

>>556074250
on default settings it's really not necessary, downright nerf in vanilla because you can't remove patches

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>>556074131
The base itself looksl ike this right now. I'm planning on having it so that most stations only have 1 or 2 skids with little spacing between them for low-priority stuff like the repair pack station, whereas stuff like the RGB circuit stations are less compact to meet higher demands. After I get Red circuits and maybe LDS set up (LDS will probably be compact in spite of the moderate demand), I'll probably do engines to robot frames afterwards.

>>556074250
Realistically speaking, I wouldn't recommend it for electric miners. You can get it down to 66% drain with rare quality ones, sure, but a single Common-quality Big Miner out-does it at 50% drain. Not worth the resources to upcycle the normal ones in all honesty.

>16% on legendary electric miners vs 8% on big miners
Maybe I'll automate legendary electric miners in my next runs. Easier to get a bunch of those than it is to get a bunch of legendary big miners.

>>556049480
I'd say trains only but that would be less of a challenge and more cock and ball torture with how shit trains are compared to belts in that game.

>>556074476
i really liked it on fulgora. Running out of trash is annoying, so putting rare miners with quality and efficiency modules meant i could be as wasteful as i wanted with all the normal resources.

>>556074476
you do not need to remove patches in vanilla

>>556069618
up to you, you can use that down time to enjoy the scenery, make pretty buildings or explore. Or go make yourself a warm meal, take a walk in the forest or exercise. That's the beauty of satisfactory you can just take it easy

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When it comes to tanks, or modern MBTs, how big is too big?
This one is just about 90 tons.

>>556083689
You probably don't want to have it way too up north from 50~60 tonnes; it makes logistics, transport, and recovery way harder than it needs to be

>>556084358
Is there a height rule generally? Or it's up for grabs on how tall you want/need?
This one is up for the trash bin, even without the armour modules it weights 75 tons.

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>>556080370
you build over patches?

>>556083689
the US went to 90 tons and said fuck that
40-70t generally depending on goals doctrine etc
>>556085468
logistics like how tall can you fit on transports and shit like that, especially how efficient train transport is

russian tanks are small and light, they make smaller targets and are sometime hard to see but you know full well how they blow up
western style tanks (abrams, leopard and asia who copied them) tend to be taller but a lot more protected. In the end even as tall as they are, used correctly they are still pretty damn good

>>556063001
okay, cryogenics should start becoming functional soon, i got volatiles liquified at -150C, now just gotta add a nitrogen condenser and pump into a cryotube

>>556086647
anon managed to blow up atmo yet again. I have no fucking clue how you guys keep blowing up the place supposed to be VACUUM

>>556086612
I really hate to compromise on armour, the idea was to have a heavily protected tank armed with a power main gun that would serve as support for the lighter Leopard 2 like tank that I've built already. This one now has just about the same weight, 74.60 tons, side armour is paper thin, so is rear and turret top.

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>>556071640
Not really done speeding it up, gotta start upgrading the coal side to setup more steel now, doubled my power, and my square frames/s to support more of these it'll most likely complete before I could even speed it up at all but surely these are useful again

>>556088569
Modern infantry weapons all hit from the top, not even talking about drones. I dont think sizing up on armor has any value, at best you survive an extra shot for the downside of being much slower and a logistic nightmare. T72 and its derivative may have been proven terribly fragile in ukraine but they're still perfectly capable. Western tanks proved themselves by dying without cooking the crew. That aside even if higher up kinda want you to fight to the end, the general idea of tankers is if you're hit you bail, because given the chance the enemy will keep hitting your tank until it catches fire, a primal "ok, this one ded" confirmation.
As for what armor can do, currently we're reaching the limit of the guns and before ukraine the talk was about upgrading to a bigger gun for higher velocities. Low end rounds were already capable of defeating practically any tanks' frontal armour, the only improvement to tanks protection would have been active systems, some were supposed to be able to destabilize a sabot round just enough to make it fail while generally speaking they'd be pretty efficient on any type of missile. Drones could be countered with such system too, loaded with more rudimentary stuff like a whatever you fancy guided shotgun. But frontal armor? Honestly so long as it can take a PG-7V and 30 or 57mm rounds, that should be good enough

>>556063001
>Fire extinguishers filled with piss
>Gas masks to accompany them
>Recovery from the Lander Fire
>Runway works now
>Sabotage.wav
>Suit storages built
>Fire in atmos that resulted in or from a liquid /pol/ tank bursting

>>556087529
Nature abhors a vacuum

>>556090294
Well, you're in early game anyway. You will need to scale up everything, redo parts and so on. Keep going anon, you're doing good so far

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>>556091205
forgot pic

>>556091205
99.999% of the known universe is in a vacuum

>>556092194
Not a *perfect* vacuum.

>>556091205
the reason fire extinguishers are not filled with weird stuff is because you might want to use them in a living area

>>556027642
doesn't chlorine burn stuff even more violently than oxygen
I heard chlorine fires can even eat through concrete

>>556093907
The downfall of the game starts here.

>>556092638
may be thinking of chlorine trifluoride
I think the fluorine is doing the heavy lifting here

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yay more base progress
got purple automated, and all of the trains up and running, though I cheated by just belting in coal
even expanded steel production and added another set of four red circuit assemblers and associated support assemblers
getting close to automating gold science and then finally I'll be ready for space age with a much more robust base than last time which will hopefully be better equipped to handle demand

>>556092638
>fire extinguishers with funky stuff
what are you, a pussy? we used to do it

>Famous deaths from carbon tetrachloride poisoning
>Evalyn Bostock (1917–1944), British actress who died from accidentally drinking carbon tetrachloride after mistaking it for her drink while working in a photographic darkroom.
>Harry Edwards (1887–1952), an American director who died from carbon tetrachloride poisoning shortly after directing his first television production.
>Zilphia Horton (1910–1956), American musician and activist who died from accidentally drinking a glass full of carbon tetrachloride-based typewriter cleaning fluid that she mistook for water.
>Margo Jones (1911–1955), American stage director who was exposed to the fumes of carbon tetrachloride that was used to clean off paint from a carpet. She died a week later from kidney failure.
>Jim Beck (1919–1956), American record producer, died after exposure to carbon tetrachloride fumes while cleaning recording equipment.
>Tommy Tucker (1933–1982), American blues singer, died after using carbon tetrachloride in floor refinishing.

>>556095128
I gotta ask, why roundabouts instead of normal 4 way intersections?

>>556095267
when I'm driving, I find roundabouts to be less stressful than intersections, so I just have a personal preference for them. it's entirely neurotic to design a base on a basis like that but idk, there's something comforting about circles

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>>556095128
>straightway with roundabouts all aligned on the left
>roundabout between the stone and iron mines aren't aligned to either the stone or iron mines
There is literally nothing wrong with this but I just wanted to express how much this bothers me as an autistic retard

>>556097456
oh bc that was going to be the coal stop and it needed a turn around, I haven't gotten around to deleting the line yet lol

Hello, I hate Earendel and love AngleBoobs.

>>556093907
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1594320/view/525366647880418857
Fucking dlc before release
Fuck them.

>Expand your depot with five distinct locomotives, each filling a unique strategic role:

Two electric locomotives (tiers 1 & 2)

Fire-less steam locomotive (tier 1)

Gas turbine locomotive (tier 2)

Nuclear locomotive (tier 3): The ultimate feat of engineering arriving with a dedicated refueling station.

Molten materials wagon and station: Optimize supply chain for molten materials by separating production and consumption with rail transportation in between.

It better be like 3 bucks but we all know it will be 10+

>>556095215
>At high temperatures in air, it decomposes or burns to produce poisonous phosgene. This was a common problem when carbon tetrachloride was used as a fire extinguisher and there have been deaths due to its conversion to phosgene reported.
What the FUCK

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>>556074860
It's substantially less efficient than just building a bus thus far, but it's working. The problem I'm facing right now is my plastic supply for the red circuits since it's belt-sharing with the green circuits, in addition to the fact that it's just not getting them in fast enough since the material trains stop at plastic and circuits instead of doing those two things separately.

I think that what I need to do is make it so that the trains gathering red circuit materials are dedicated SOLELY to the task of picking up those materials, since I only have to worry about two of them thanks to the foundries. 3 for plastic, 3 for green circuits, it'd fill out the station neatly while keeping the system fed. Depending on how well it goes, I might be able to add another skid for reds so that both it and the greens are going 4:4 to supply my factory.

>>556103331
One other thing I might do is just cut out the second green station and have it cart all of the green circuits over to the storehouses on the left. I only did it that way because I don't know what the green circuit demand is gonna be like yet. Besides moving the gigantic buffers from A to B, it isn't really a problem though.

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ok made final adjustments for tonight
automated gold science, cleaned up the unused rail section, tidied some miscellaneous stuff, etc
next few steps are to double copper production by building another copper furnace stack, actually build and automate the rocket silo, and then start on space age for real this time
very fun
it's such a great feeling seeing expensive things like flying robot frames and low density structures get cranked out en mass when last run I was either handcrafting them or handfeeding a single assembler

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>>556103331
>>556103596
As the case would be, I'm simply the stupidest man alive. The first thing that I set up was oil processing and I decided it'd be funny to prank myself in the future by making a high-volume item like Plastic get bottlenecked by bot performance. It's fine with the rocket fuel since that's low-volume in comparison, but there were basically just a bunch of logichests full of plastic that weren't getting utilized because of these starving drones.
Having snaked my plastic directly to the pickup station, the issues inverted and the green circuits are coming in too slowly compared to the plastic. It's probably an easily-fixable problem that probably just entails dedicated material trains.

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>>556019000
>redid the suction section
>now the scrubber is (slowly) removing volatiles and CO2 from the cavern
>thank god I have an iron deep miner, this is gonna take a ton of filters
>no more direct gas feed
>liquid pollutant comes in through the gas pipe drains
>have to come up with logic that controls the vents now
>have a wiki page with IC10, a web IDE page, Logisim, and the game running
>not sure if it's gonna work or set either my pc, or my in-game setup on fire
>not sure I'm even having fun right now
>not sure if that even matters anymore
I need an adult. Send help.

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Any idea how I can build the leader? It's a steam engine the leader

>>556106228
That's a tough one. Is it going to be steam electric or direct drive? As you could turbine it or large piston it into generator with double large electric motors geared; obviously diesel steam is better than coal but direct drive is less complex overall

>>556106228
Use a boiler, diesel furnace, a single large steam piston laying on it's side that gives you a corridor and space to run like an American loco and build a b unit

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>>556105438
>no matter the external target pressure setting on active vent, they still can't pump shit when set to dumping mode
>all this state juggling can be replaced with a simple pump + passive vent
I am angry.

I always turn the quality mod off when i start a new factorio game
Played around with it once and just thought how half baked and pointless it is.
Maybe if 2.1 changes it up a fair bit ill have another go at it but until then no quality

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jesus

>>556049480
I was thinking of no mined coal/oil for power generation, so you'd have to rely on the charcoal/biocoal recipes (unlocked with compacted coal in the sulfur research tree) in tier 3 and liquid biofuel in tier 5. The goal is to get to geothermal and then nuclear as fast as possible.
Would make power-efficient alt recipes and priority power switches more necessary to keep your important stuff running. Alien protein can produce lots of biomass, but everyone turns them into DNA for coupons instead.
Obviously you'd still need crude oil for plastics and rubber. Debating whether foundries should be required to use biocoal too and what to do with oil byproducts.

>>556075025
>with how shit trains are compared to belts in that game.
Skill issue. Trains are fine with blueprint autoconnect introduced in 1.1.

>>556116905
show me your 4-way junction blueprint

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>>556117338
Quickly whipped this up. The most time taken was to redo the foundations to line up with the center rails. Signals need to be tested, I guess.

Also, you'd want to use roundabouts or over-/underpasses rather than junctions.

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>>556118494
Yeah you would want to and it looks like total shit in that footprint. Floppy ass rail signals just to make it fit. Plus in the time it takes to make and connect the fucking thing you could have already run all the belts that would do the same damn thing.

>>556121161
>Yeah you would want to and it looks like total shit in that footprint.
I made it in less than 10 minutes, so I didn't decorate it or anything. Rail and signals at the ends float in the air because they go on the neighboring straight blueprint's foundations.

Also, your screenshot confirms
>Skill issue.

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>>556121161
NTA, but the one gameplay loop I feel like Satisfactory has that most other factory games don't is the aesthetic loop.

Pass 1 is just functional rails.
Pass 2 is adding supports, building bridges, making them look like they could work irl, etc.
Pass 3 is adding details like covered bridges and superfluous signage to make it look pretty.

Takes a lot longer than just running a quick line in other factory games. But I'm into that.

>>556116905
>I was thinking of no mined coal/oil for power generation,
That does sound neat. I did find myself recently wishing wind and solar were in the game, because it's a pain trying to set up remote bases before you have a lot of surplus power and a jet pack so you can just run a line of high voltage around the entire map.

>Autists wasting their time and brain power on a game
Tell me how I know you don't have a job

>>556125047
Man. I wish someone would build this train in stormworks

>>556127703
Tell us about your job and how much you love it.

>>556127703
>normies wasting their time and brain power on a job
Tell me how I know you don't have a soul

>>556109587
It's incredible how much a passive vent can do

>>556127703
>Enter thread about something you don't like
>Start complaining
At least I'm wasting my brainpower on something compelling instead of wasting it complaining about shit I don't care about.

>>556127703
there is no "wasting" brain power
even if it's just spent on a video game you're at least keeping your mind sharp
you use it or lose it, and it sounds like you're intent on losing it

>He think anything other than hedonism and trading on the stock market makes any sense to do

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the modded minecraft general is running a train/factory autism server if any of you niggers wanted to try that.

>>556127703
I had this thought 10 years ago. It made me get off my ass and go get an engineering degree.
Turns out sitting in a cubicle is ridiculously boring so here I am back in the factory games.

>>556130197
I knew a piece of shit that thought like that

>>556109587
bullshit, i don't believe you
surely rocketwanks aren't that fucking retarded

>>556130197
Tell that to your parents leech

>>556132756
You can't trade with $0

>>556130416
Where? Is it one of the servers in the OP?

>>556135415
yeah it's pathserv

>>556135415
>pastebin.com/c8QNj7Q4 (embed) (embed)
>Alive /mmcg/ servers (Do you have a server up? Add it to the OP! Having trouble joining in? Check out the Resources pastebin!):
>PathServ (ToxicJungleSerb, Fabric 1.20.1): 185.206.148.172:25573
He probably means this one, it's been going for quite a while now

>>556128583
Tell me about it. I'm kinda miffed they haven't added the variant of insulated vent with a valve yet.
It's amazing for compact manual setups, and it's still part of the same network.

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>decide to get the 48h run cheevo
>start doing shit really badly as the hours go by
>basically just skimp around everything, barebones all around, don't even have real defenses over at nauvius, yellow ammo being fed by robots, but it's surviving fine
>research aquilo
>jump on the ship
>rocket turret takes like 10 shots to kill a single meteor
>realize i never researched rocket damage past the basics
>explode into confetti
>nauvius base gets overran from the first behemoth
there's a lesson about cutting corners here, but I'm gonna ignore it and start a new run where I don't shit the bed as hard

>>556145347
Just treat it like old HoMaM, put every savegame into a new slot and if something breaks go back an hour or two to fix it.

>>556129973
>playing Factorio is healthy!
Holy cope

>>556127703
Go on then, tell us what you enjoy doing (so we can make fun of it)

>>556151743
healthier than brain-dead wageslaving or doomscrolling or whatever the average normie gets up to on their free time

>>556153151
I enjoy the grind

>>556151743
The doctor I spoke to about dementia recommended reading, puzzles, games, and conversation.

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>>556151743
Unironically, yes. In moderation.

>>556161146
We do have a lot more people now, and most of the beetle tasks have already been done.

But yeah best treat it as a timewaster same as watching netflix, don't let it take over your life.

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>Coi update
>Amphibious vehicles will be slower and require more maintenance and micro managing filters to stop them from stealing jobs
They sound like a big pain in the ass just to build bridges.

>>556171006
I wish we had dedicated clamshell dredgers for seafloor excavation instead of amphibious trucks and excavators.

give me more maritime logistics. that is my favorite part of openTTD; building canals everywhere and transporting goods with ships instead of trains.

I should have went to fulgora with a spidertron in the first place. This is so much easier.

>>556171006
>pic
How do you recover from this?

>>556174280
/unstuck

>>556174280
Press 'E' to flip vehicle.

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>>556174280
Send in progressively larger cranes until you find the one that works.

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I'm getting real sick of this shit

>>556181595
Sick of what? Rails?

Yeah the sheer fucking amount of them production science needs is a bit absurd but how much does it really matter?