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>Game Links
Steam Edition
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1150690/OMORI/
Physical Edition (And Merch)
https://www.omocat-shop.com/collections/omori
https://www.fangamer.com/collections/omori
Download
https://archive.is/FqpTS
The console editions (Switch, PSN, XBL, PC Gamepass) have some exclusive content.
>Character Birthdays | Basil - February 18
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EujUrE5UUAUyxku.jpg:orig
>Fangames, Projects, and Etc
https://pastebin.com/XQX7CSip (OMARIO fangame)
https://totally-fungal.itch.io/doomori (DOOMORI fangame)
https://files.catbox.moe/x1fogc.rar(manga ch.4)
https://imgur.com/a/YJb6dTT (beta & prerelease art)
https://goats.dev/omori/#KEL (game dialogue dump)
https://files.catbox.moe/nxd8dm.png(faraway map)
https://files.catbox.moe/3ng1by.torrent (sprite dump)
https://postimg.cc/gallery/G4krtVR/13ec9e79 (Omori Official Walkthrough & Guide Art/Developer Interview & Messages)
https://rentry.org/756
>Mods
https://mods.one/
https://files.catbox.moe/6kewkg.torrent (RPG Maker MV 1.6.2)
https://rentry.org/vanillasavefiles
Try _omariAU, rainy_mari_mod, omorimodreverie, omori_daydream on Twitter
https://files.catbox.moe/5ddmjn.zip(Console content)
>/omog/ Archive
https://booru.plus/+whitespace
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SGf6LRkzuLpou5Neqppl3Tm7c3hPAitFhC TrIPRfC_c/ (anon's Universally Loved day-by-day guide)
https://mega.nz/file/zaQXDYyQ#bG0yK3nl-w6hx5u6IOcvn3GUrGDY53X9faa7nfzC 0Yk (MEGA archive 2021)
https://files.catbox.moe/e5yhbo.png(Whiteboard 2021)
https://rentry.org/756352 (OC Fic and Greentext)
https://youtu.be/bKNwUnIMjVo (/vg/ sings My Time)
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/post/482879356 (/vg/ sings Good Morning)
https://rentry.org/omogtemplate2023d/ (Thread Template)
Also, if you write or draw anything don't be afraid to post it, don't worry about the quality, just post that shit!
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Everyone should love Kel...
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I know exceedingly little of Murder Drones but I agree
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The inspector is just Stranger with a fake beard
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Bubby will love mawi forever and ever
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I assume you mean specifically the simulated Twilight Town from the beginning of KH2, I'd be more inclined to agree if Headspace took more cues directly from Faraway Town but Sunny's "false life" in Headspace is pretty much self-imposed and more of an escape from reality than an attempt to recreate it.Also it might just be observational bias but I feel like a lot of people are getting into Kingdom Hearts recently and I don't know why
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On this topic, I want to take the chance to bring up that I think See You Tomorrow took some inspiration from Twilight Town's song Lazy Afternoons. The two songs have a similar vibe to them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQYmjpdA_Pw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSnG8BDE6hw
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good morning kel
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ITS SUNDAY!
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I think the term gets horribly mis- and over-used by annoying people on Twitter but it really does feel like every Omori critique video like this is made by people with zero media literacy. They either completely miss the game's point and/or get so hung up on the logistics of the cover-up when that's not what the story is about.
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Another attempt to cook breakfast has been foiled by the nonstick pan rapidly fusing the food into itself as though it were made of the world's most rapidly drying Gorilla Glue
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I love Kimsil but I love YOU even more!!!
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Auboobergine
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everyone was in it
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tutoring
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Say something nice about them
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So cute the bee wouldn't even think about stinging them
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They do for silly photos
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Free and allowed to breathe
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she will grow further
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>>555986303
They are very attentive listeners
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The girl he is looking at
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genetically engineered
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goodnight kel
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Nighttime storytime!
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Oyasumi
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Well that's a tad unsettling. Hope Curtsey gets the parry and dash timings down soon
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byebye bubby play again
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At the very least he will be happy in his dreams
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I want to give him a hug
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i will love you forever and ever
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i love this ship too
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>>556018013is it worth playing mogekos castle? its looks pretty old.
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i had no clue there was even an ETA kek, hopefully it comes out soon i guess
>>556018514honestly no, it's one of those rpg maker games where you only walk around and do small puzzles. the actual plot and theme relies purely on shock factor, so if you like overly edgy and vulgar stuff you might be into it but if not then there's nothing amazing about it.
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>Funa's still going for that 2026 release?
I don't remember reading she was going to release it in 2026, but at any rate, I wouldn't hold my breath. It comes out when it comes out. I'm happy she's working on it.
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>Basil Boss Rush
Is this the part where Basil joins your party and you can tag each other? I don't remember this at all so it's probably not in the PC version.
I suppose all the extra content is for the hikikomori route, right?
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They are gay
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Yes to both. The new content's for Hikikomori. The Basil Boss Rush is basically the same as normal Boss Rush except a little harder because it's only you and Basil and there's two new fights against Dream Hero, Aubrey, and Kel as a team, and Dream Mari alone as the final fight.
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They are in their hot topic phase
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Can someone explain this to me.
>How did Basil know how to tie a noose in the first place?
>Where was there any indication he was so depressed and mentally ill enough to come up with the idea of hanging Mari?
>How did they manage to get away with it? I know that there's evidence the parents knew, but I can't imagine the police not publicizing everything. Although, I know this one is weaker since they would most likely get away with it anyway because of how young they were and how it was an accident.
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>How did Basil know how to tie a noose in the first place?
We don’t know, there was nothing in the game to suggest how he knew.
>Where was there any indication he was so depressed and mentally ill enough to come up with the idea of hanging Mari?
Not really, no.
>How did they manage to get away with it? I know that there's evidence the parents knew, but I can't imagine the police not publicizing everything. Although, I know this one is weaker since they would most likely get away with it anyway because of how young they were and how it was an accident.
We honestly don’t know how they got away with it, the game is vague about the whole incident. It’s best to not dwell on the specifics and just accept that it happened.
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>How did Basil know how to tie a noose in the first place?
Tying a rope ain't rocket science, nothing required that it be a properly structured noose.
>Where was there any indication he was so depressed and mentally ill enough to come up with the idea of hanging Mari?
I've seen it often argued that he has borderline personality disorder, and apparently more than half of cases engage in self-harm, so go figure. However, from what I understand, most of the evidence for him having BPD comes from time after the roping incident.
>How did they manage to get away with it?
The plot only requires that the other three friends thought it was a suicide. What parents or the police knew doesn't really matter.
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>Tying a rope ain't rocket science, nothing required that it be a properly structured noose.
This.
In fact, I would say it’s more unbelievable that a jump rope was able to hang the body and not snap than Basil knowing how to tie it.
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Someone posted an infographic here once about a certain knot for tying a flower crown being similar to a noose, and given that Basil's equivalent to Red Hands in the Boss Rush is "Flower Crown" I'm pretty sure that's implied to be Omocat's explanation as well (there's even a part of the animation that isn't used where it goes from looking like vines to more like green ropes but I can't find it at the moment)
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You have to remember that the game is entirely told from Sunny’s perspective. Could Basil have known how to tie a noose and been suffering from depression and Sunny not know about it? Absolutely. We already know that Basil has a hard time opening up about his feelings. We know that Basil’s parents weren’t around much, so maybe Basil felt alone and unable to speak to anyone about his feelings even as a child.
We also know Sunny entered an extremely traumatic state after killing Mari, so it would make sense that he doesn’t remember the specifics of what happened with the police or anything like that, I mean he was trying to forget anything related to the event after all.
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I think some people are missing the point here. Basil was familiar enough with the concept of a hanging suicide that that idea was something that was even possible for his mind to pull out in the moment. It really doesn’t matter how Basil knew how to tie the knot, what matters is that Basil associated the knot with a suicide. If he just knew slip knots from bracelets and flower crowns, it would not have been possible for his mind to say, “right time to use that knot to hang Mari from a tree.” That’s the kind of idea that requires thought and consideration that Basil did not have time nor place of mind to do at the time of the incident.
I don’t think he was actively suicidal when the friend group was all together, but everything we know about him definitely doesn’t paint a good picture of what his life was like before meeting Aubrey and the rest. Obviously, Basil is a very strong character, as he never actually went through with it pre-canon, but I think people are coping when they try and say that him knowing how to tie knots explains his actions because it actually doesn’t.
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I mean I would go even further and say that people get entirely too caught up in the specifics of Mari’s staged suicide. It doesn’t fucking matter how it happened, Omori isn’t supposed to be a realistic crime game. It’s an emotionally driven game, so really all that matters is that it DID happen. If your first thought after figuring out the truth is that it doesn’t make sense, then you missed the point of the game entirely.
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The issue with this argument is that OMORI creates (or at least tries to create) a direct delineation between the fantastical dream world, where everything can happen, and the real world, which aims to be more grounded and believable than that. Through elements such as Sunny's stats being worse than Omori's, the scene with cutting Aubrey in the park and the real world's food restoring little to no health to the party, the game trains the player to expect the events in its "real world" to operate on a logic fairly close to that of our real world. Two 12-year-olds immediately deciding to cover up a murder instead of doing literally anything else (like, for example, calling 911) goes directly against this logic, regardless of any in-universe justifications the game might try to conjure - if you present the audience with a grounded setting, repeatedly affirm how grounded it is and then have something as outlandish as the cover-up happen, that is objectively bad writing.
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My favorite art is the stuff that looks comfy on the surface but gets uncomfy when you look at it for more than a second.
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>Where was there any indication he was so depressed and mentally ill enough to come up with the idea of hanging Mari
Well...Basil's a very lonely kid. His parents basically didn't exist, all he really had was his grandma, and he didn't have friends before Aubrey introduced him to everyone. His issues got worse after Mari died, but that doesn't mean they couldn't have existed before then. Basil admits that he took photos of what he was most afraid to lose. After Sunny murdered Mari, he was probably afraid of losing him too once everyone learned what happened. So he did what he did to 'save' Sunny. This is my personal take on it, but Basil's dialogue seems to imply he couldn't rationalize what happened as an accident. Sunny killed Mari, but Sunny would never do something like that. In the moment he knew he needed to protect Sunny from what he did, and once it was all over he rationalized it as 'something else' that made Sunny kill Mari. Something else he needed to protect Sunny from.
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You kind of can on repeat playthroughs. Notice the things you didn't before, do things you heard about later on like the different Black Space entrances or entering the grate before Keeper of Castle's room, and try out new things like gambling for 1,000,000. There's plenty left to enjoy.
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Bubby and his friend are lost in the Backrooms. What horrors will they discover?
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In-battle Basil is so cute (not a huge surprise)
Locking this content to specific platforms was a fucking retarded decision.
Thank god they didn't modify the regular route though, it would have sucked to have missable content in that just because of the platform.
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if you think the real world segments of omori aren't a little bit silly or fantastical (sunny hitting himself in the head with a flyswatter and dying, a fight with at least one real weapon breaking out in the church with no one intervening, ghost mari being real, etc) you aren't being serious. it sounds more like you're angry that omori isn't what you wanted it to be or incorrectly thought it was rather than that there's something actually wrong with it.
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No, you're just dismissing my argument for the sake of some goofy moments in the real world that suddenly discounts the entire idea that the real world is supposed to be far more realistic than headspace. You did nothing to disprove my argument.
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criticizing omori for not being realistic enough is like criticizing the tortoise and the hare on similar grounds. if you can't grasp something as simple as how 'realism' doesn't make all stories better, i'm afraid omori might be a little too much for you. maybe get into something grittier.
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The narrative has implicitly asked us to confront the real-world implications of Mari's fall. And as for those implications, Mari's death is clearly thematically framed as something that is supposed to be shockingly realistic and gruesome. We see the actual events of the accident take place in detail, and they are literally "framed" inside of a photo frame, in a physical album. It is unequivocally presented as "here's what really happened in real life." As such, it demands more scrutiny because it has been presented in such a grounded and realistic manner, and even if aspects of the rest of the game are whimsical in tone, it is evident that we are supposed to view the images as the "real" truth and AREN'T supposed to view the death through a fanciful lens. The events we see are clearly meant to be "reality," yet are inconsistent with reality as we actually know it. The narrative implies that we should take this event seriously, and in doing so, opens itself up to real-world comparisons. Thus, when the details of such an important event don't align with real-world physics, biology, or logic, it threatens the ability to maintain any suspension of disbelief and disrupts the player's engagement with the story.
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>Mari's death is clearly thematically framed as something that is supposed to be shockingly realistic and gruesome
shocking and gruesome, yes, as before that point the game tackled at most the grief of death long past, and the horror of witnessing and inflicting real death is saved so late in the game that it hits like lightning. but you think it's supposed to be realistic? are you kidding? if omocat and her team wanted to tell a realistic story with a theme of the horror of death, the easiest thing they could have done would be to just have mari kill herself. but they didn't. and they didn't accidentally write two children covering up a murder and getting away with it for 4 years either. they wanted to tell a story about a person doing something horrible and learning that he is still loved, even by the person he murdered and the friends he became estranged from, that others trust him and he needs to trust them too, and that he needs to grow as a person or else destroy himself or be stunted for the foreseeable future.
>suspension of disbelief
most people's suspension of disbelief isn't this fragile. you really are just mad the game isn't what you thought it would be or should be. it's complaining that the tortoise winning the race is bad story telling because it's contrived and unbelievable. is the hare stupid? yes, and no one cares that he is, because it serves the ultimate purpose of the fable. is mari's death and subsequent coverup believable from an entirely real world perspective? who fucking cares, similarly ridiculous things happen all the time in faraway, what matters is that it's heinous and horrifying and sunny is right to feel so bad about it, and it makes sense that he repressed the entire truth of it and retreated to headspace to cope.
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The indignity of being a mug holder makes him burn with anger...
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She wandered out of Black Space one day, and has been wandering around Sunny's head ever since. It's certainly a little nicer than where she was earlier.
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The comedian who looks like a stiff and the stiff who lives in a comedy
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>>556207438It was OK I guess.
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Hi /omog/ just finished the game for the first time, it was truly a touching game, some scenes hit way too close home. But I still do not understand why the Sunny confession at the hosptial got skipped, was it due to time restrictions or deadlines? This is my only "complain" about it, also noticed there are a lot of missing achievements and my foe facts is still unfinished despite checking almost everything on the headspace.
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I think it's one of those things where you aren't necessarily meant to know what would happen, just as Sunny could not know- he just has to accept that it must happen. Also as >>556231736 said you can ot find everything in Headspace in the normal gameplay- you have tostay inside instead of greeting Keland eventually the rest can be found.
A lot of things stay the same between the early and late Headspace gameplay if you play again for the 100% though, so I might suggest either experimenting with new strategies in the second playthrough or installing something from mods.one for variety's sake.
And congrats on beating the game.
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>>556232654I have never 100% the game and I never played the Hikikomori route because I cannot ever bring myself to not open the door for Kel. I'm sorry.
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>>556233137That's fair
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Oh, there is another route? Interesting, I noticed I was kind of overleveled during the Otherworld part and the desert, every enemy felt like a pushover, so I might try doing a low level and avoid as many fights as possible. Hope this route clears a bunch of questions I have from my first playthrough.
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Because 12 year olds are particularly known for acting rationally in stressful situations lmao. And this one particular 12 year old who suggested the fake suicide plan has already severe abandonment issues, mind you. Man, you’re dumb as fuck.
This is the problem with autists doing media analysis. They expect every single fictional character to act like perfect, rational creatures in all situations, and any deviation from that standard is automatically labeled as “bad writing”, because god forbid that a character has flaws and acts accordingly.
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At first I found it Illogical, but now that I had time to think about it, it's like those kids who break a TV and turn it off, I just found curious that Mari's body had no signs of blunt damage from the fall which would have led some suspicions, still, covering it as a suicide as a first option instead of leaving her on the bed isn't something I'd do as a child, but I understand they were scared and nervous due to the situation.
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I think the confession not being shown is something done for two reasons. The first being that so the player can decide what happened. To use everything you learned to piece together whether or not the friends would forgive Sunny, or ever want to be friends with him again. Everyone can pour a different amount of thought into it. OMORI does a good job showing why Sunny and Basil could be forgiven, but also doesn't want to say the people who think otherwise are wrong. It's a really heavy truth for the friends to face. It being ambiguous gives a lot for the player to think about while the credits roll and after being sent back to the new title screen.
And the other reason I'd honestly say is genuinely time restrictions. There's no way the writers could give a satisfying answer to that question without another novel's worth of writing. If Sunny and Basil are forgiven quickly, it would feel too unrealistic or make their fears about telling the truth seem like an overreaction in hindsight. If the game outright says they won't be forgiven and never be friends again, it makes the entire game end on too bitter of a note. The Faraway Town sections with everyone getting back together again and Memory Lane's message feel moot if it's just building up to everyone falling apart again.
Also! Do you have a save from before confronting Basil after remembering the truth? Reload it, and go back to sleep instead of visiting Basil. Something interesting happens.
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Yes, I saw the scene where their curse lift away and both finally smiling which give me hopes that they will be forgiven. I honestly wanted to see their reaction to the truth, leaving things at my imagination makes me unable to align it with the author's intent.
Unfortunately I save everything on a single file, my last save was at the backstage, I pressed not to continue out of curiosity and got the suicide ending which I finally listened to Bo En - My Time, what a wonderful song, I refused to listen to it until I finished playing Omori and it was worth it. This weekend I will start a fresh save and take the alternate route Anons mentioned, it's just refusing Kel's invitation right? Do I also have to refuse Mari's ghost knocking at the start of the game?
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While it’s never been outright confirmed, at an Omori art exhibition, people noticed images of Kel, Aubrey, and Hero that never appeared in the game and people theorize it’s their reactions to the truth that must have been cut.
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You just have to ignore Kel either on the first or second day he knocks at the door. You can open it for Mari if you want to. There are a few things that change if you choose to go outside on the first day and then ignore Kel the second, but you could easily miss them. I forget if you lose out on anything by going outside the first day.
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This drawing seems to showcase everyone's immediate reactions. It's nice as a template, but I don't think it implies a definite outcome. There's also text in the 2019 Build made before the ending was finalized which describes everyone as being buddy-buddy enough after the confession to take a photo together in the hospital, so that muddles things further.
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Anon, they're not talking about characters acting illogically, they're saying that the writing is illogical. You have characters acting in an illogical way that makes sense. It doesn't make sense why Basil's first idea was to make a noose and hang Mari to make it look like a suicide.
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There is one other mind-blowing connection I can think of, even if it's mostly a theory. Some think Mr. Jawsum might be based off Sunny's Dad. They have similar blue white-striped shirts on even if Jawsum's is a suit while Sunny's Dad wears a button up. They also have similar watches. There's a coat rack in Sunny's house with a hat on it that Sunny says belongs to his dad, and that exact hat on a coatrack is in Mr. Jawsum's office. I think there was at least one or two more things, but I don't remember those.
I personally like this theory because it's funny/tragic to think in the cycles of Headspace, one of the regular scenarios that happened was Sunny dreaming of a version of the father that disowned him calling Hero the son he never had right in front of his face.
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I think people take that text farther than its meaning; I don't think Sunny's dad didn't like Hero being with Mari in general but in that photo in particular they're both sleeping together, I think he only didn't approve of the physical contact than anything.
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>They're 15 there, that's the tamest thing they could be doing.
Exactly, with what little we know I think their dad was probably "strict" but no unreasonable, Hero's obviously a good kid and I think he would've just had a problem with the old-fashioned idea of a boy and girl "sleeping together" than disapproving because Hero's a dirty Mexican, lol
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Yeah I was actually surprised, I was like "oh these Kris plushies are so stylistically similar to my Omori plushies, perfect" but I actually didn't realize how much bigger the Omori plushies were, I always thought THEY were small but, people who make customs on Etsy need a bigger profit margin I suppose lol. Glad I got them half-off
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He’s just that powerful