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shin megami tensei

>dead for 6 hours
I think it's time to throw in the towel

/meta/ is calling to merge

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Play her game.

>>555918215
her game should have been a new devil summoner

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oh no I'll failed to create a new thread on time. meh I'm not making the next one either I'll too lazy now

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Alice OP...

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They banned me for speaking the truth about Mikado.

>>555918834
that's teddy

>>555918834
that's lucifer

nyx has appeared in multiple SMT games alongside being the main boss in P3, but why is Erebus still stuck in fucking Episode Aigis?

>>555917278
Reminder that people legitimately believed that SMT VV was bring in tons of new people to /smtg/ because it was a """""""modern gem""""""

>>555920182
The problem is VV isn't what 4A did.

>>555922860
VV didn't have the horny jar

>>555918128
/meta/ tongues my anus

>>555920182
It definitely brought me here.

>>555920182
VV did the same thing every sub 1 million seller does (came out, got discussion, went away)

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I want to rape Asahi

>>555928431
you are the only as*hi fan in existence

>>555929209
do rapists count as fans

I want to pet Pascal

>>555929458
sick fuck

>>555929458
What the fuck is your problem?

VV is a good game but a mediocre SMT game. The games will continue to be watered down until it's just another generic jrpg series.

>>555931503
>implying it already hasn't
what do you think nu-sona is?

>>555931503
You mean Persona. Look at how Kaneko's game is a million times more watered down compared to mainline.

>tfw when I first played soul hackers i thought the dolphin was immune to magic so long whittling down his health with melee that he ran out of MP.

When the journey was strange

When the devil is digital

When the ronde

When Vkun had gay sex (became a Nahobino)

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>>555933982
Wait, he isn't?? That's literally what happened to me.

>>555935310
if you attack him with magic eventually he'll suicide from magic overload

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>>555935773
>mfw

>>555933982
>>555935310
>>555935976
>getting tricked by a dolphin
So much for superior human intellect

>>555935106
gay sex: not even once

>>555931503
>VV is a good game
No good game would have:
>Atrocious designs
>Day one DLC
>Awful voice acting
>Poorly designed dungeons
>No variety in environments
>Treating the people who bought the vanilla version like crap by being extremely stingy with the save data bonuses
>Dogshit writing
>Nerfing playable characters because they're no longer DLC
>Having two endings but one of them has dev bias since they actually get a proper boss fight and more satisfying conclusion when compared to the other
>Shitty completion rewards

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>>555936228
You don't want ultimate power? Only condition is a quick esoteric handy from a larger, more dominate male.

holding hands with abdiel

Devil survivor 3 will be released after etrian odessy 6.

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When the demons come out sizzlin

>>555920182
People are probably more likely to come to SMT from Persona. That's what I did

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>>555951672
>People are probably more likely to come to SMT
In a manner of speaking.

>>555952345
if you could only pick one half then which one would you choose

>>555952451
Top.

am i allowed to like persona here. the persona general has too many waifufagging and schizos

>>555954932
yeah but nobody wants to talk about 3-5 here

>>555955025
I generally like P3 but I feel it gets a little wonky when Aegis gets introduced up until Ikutsuki (the ikutsuki evil lore in p4a is also retarded imo) then it catches its second wind. I wish there was a bit more fluff to it imo but it's still a great time.

>>555955025
It's a real mystery why no one wants to talk about the games that ruined Atlus

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Apparently SMT3 created SMT's press-turn system? If so, what sort of system did pre-SMT3 SMT games use? Just standard turn-based JRPG combat?

>>555956057
yes

>>555956057
something called the row system(at least here, I'm not aware of any official or colloquial jp name). you could have two rows/6 players, summoning and carrying all of them at once was costly.

YHVH

>>555964216
Is based.

I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes

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>>555964589
On a Canaanite Storm God.

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Was playing SMTV the other day and found Demeter wandering around and this piece of dialog sounded menacing in a funny shitpost way to me. Decided to make a drawing about it.
Drawing her has made me realize why she is one of my favorite Doimons, her design is amazing and full of detail.

>>555965138
Nice.
She clearly needs to be corrected.

>>555965138
Nice! It's been a while since we hand a drawfren posting something. Got any other SMT doodles you're working on?

>>555965138
She's one manipulative bitch and Beaners will still follow her plan to kill unbothered demons that just exist in peace

>>555966357
Not for the moment, I'm also the creator of >>555143768, I tend to not start anything else until I finish my current drawing. Anything on your mind?

>>555966380
I would follow Demeter to the end of the amala network as her loyal servant.

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So this is the power of ai...

>>555967982
what the frick?! I love AI now

>>555967982
Looks like whatever proooompt the slopper used mixed in artstyles from the 1980s. The blue demon on the left particularly looks like something from a 1980s anime.

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>>555970939
>The blue demon on the left particularly looks like something from a 1980s anime.
yeah i wonder why it looks like a 1980s anime that's crazy.

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>>555971231
Forgive me, I have the memory of a goldfish.

yo they should remake SMT I (i haven't played it)

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>>555972108
NO FORGIVENESS
IT'S TOO LATE FOR YOU

>>555972838
Doi fits with modern SMT more than aging Kaneko, also both Tao and Yoko are sexo

>>555972838
You can tell if Kaneko Fionn was in SMT he'd just be a reskin of Cu.

>>555971231
fuck what was that movie that was literally MT but in america but it was actually made before Megami Tensei? i know a few people mentioned it but I forgot the title fuck

>>555974857
Evilspeak.

>>555975223
thanks time to watch it tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGeqbklvKLc i can't stop listening to this, so simple and yet it works

>>555942863
fire emblem killer

>>555973480
desu i doubt kaneko's finn would be that if he was still at atlus, he's very much making his own legally distinct variant of his old Cu for a new ip.
compare with his Kuzunoha (the fox spirit) design being SMT1 Lilith in a kimono

>>555972838
the layered clothing combine with the body tattoos/facepaint are a good mix, even if it's 90% just that JC Leyendecker painting. more designs like that and less with "i drew something and then spent 10 minutes adding pointless swirls or drawing dogshit musculature" would be nice.

>>555977171
>hey, I have a idea, how about I make a song that uses garbled text-to-speech that reads Bible verses over a rock track!!
Meguro is a genius. I have no idea what kind of shit he was smoking to have come up with this music.

Knights of the holy lance is such a good theme, it sucks that its mostly ied to a shitty mini-boss(es)

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they were cooking with this uniform but would be a pretty nightmare trying to get an accurate cosplay of this

>>555981260
The protagonist looks like this and people were surprised his power comes from having another man inside of him.

>>555981260
Plenty of people still do it.

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Atlus and Nintendo will have to talk again because Tsubasa won two voting events for the Fire Emblem side of TMS, this will probably lead to nothing big but it's important to say that we haven't been praying for TMS to be erased enough

>>555991103
I have. They ruined the game with censorship and refuse to understand it.

>>555991103
This is the chain effect of 3 Houses.

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>>555978493

>>555991103
>it's important to say that we haven't been praying for TMS to be erased enough
Who gives a singe fuck. The game is a decade old at this point and people are just happy that TMS will finally get some new representation for once.

>>555992795
Ishida-sa...

The only thing I remember about that game is all the KOWASHITAI shitposting on /v/.

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Fairy Forest, home...

>>555979873
He's an excellent composer. Too bad he decided to be a gamedev instead.

>>555991103
new here, what does tsubasa have to do with smt?

>>555996071
She is from something that was advertised as a SMT and Fire Emblem crossover, what we got in the end was idolshit that didn't really take anything from either series other than the names of the totally not personas and some characters and the gameplay is somewhat SMT inspired and it has the SMT names for spells if I remember but otherwise it's totally different from both

>>555996356
oh it's from tokyo mirage sessions

When TMS released it had me doubting just how important Ishida was to Strange Journey and that he could possibly be a fraud. It's a good thing Soul Hackers 2 got released after that and assured me that he is absolutely a hack fraud that needs to stay away from my video games.

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ngl this was what i first thought when someone mentioned TMS, the game is barely discussed here so i had no idea

>>555996802
>from my video games.
Your video games is literally just dogshit remasters, pointless Unreal Engine remakes, and a game that can't stop dicksucking Nocturne while having the worst dungeons in the entire series with atrocious writing and alignment system that doesn't question your beliefs, but instead asks if you want to be a asshole or not

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kuzunoha in persona?

>>555997432
Wasn't talking to you Avery.

>>555997823
>Using the boogeyman card
Fuck off and realize that Atlus hasn't made anything good since arguably 2013

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I'm playing the Raidou remake and got to chapter 7 and I feel like the game made a huge lore dump and I'm struggling to keep up with it. I know this is well after the fact but could someone explain it better than the game did with why Narumi got his shit kicked in and what the curse is about? Also how did they change this from the original?

>>555998251
not beating the avery accusations with post structure like that senpai

>>555998252
The lore dump is the same in both game.
In the OG, the guy who was cursed was an admiral from the Imperial Navy, this got censored in thr remaster, probably to avoid triggering China and Korea.

Did You Know Gaming: TMS is SMT spelled backwards!

>>556000013
>In the OG, the guy who was cursed was an admiral from the Imperial Navy
That feels like a big change then because they explain he's some kind of demon or god that part of the Amatsu and that changes the context entirely. Unless they are saying the admiral from the Imperial Navy is also a god.

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Oh my God, I swear the random encounters in Nocturne are more dangerous than the bosses.
I need more agility to stop going second.

>>556006661
are you playing on hard

>>556007626
Yes.

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I can't hate on Kaneko too much considering that he designed the best Devil Trigger designs DMC has ever had. I treat him the same way I treat Ridley Scott in that he is someone who was once clearly a genius but is now old, senile and lost his marbles.

>>556008335
He fell off, but he fell from very high heights.

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>>556000351
>>556000013
Hes actually still an admiral even in the remaster. They carelessly left in one NPC's line of dialogue where hes still referred to as an admiral because they copypasted it from the PS2 version. So even if they didn't want it to be, its still canon.
Theres also dialogue copypasted from the PS2 version in one of the bars where a character tells you to remember to buy plenty of elemental bullets, a mechanic that was cut and is not present in the remaster.

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I know I'm gonna get laughed at for even asking this question, but has any of you guys ever tried this game? If so, can it satisfy a press turn system psychopath?

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>>555993942
I need to replay apocalypse so bad, people shit on it because of the change in tone, but for me, it's the most fun I've ever had with a shin megami tensei game when it comes to combat

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>>555991103
An anon paid 4chan advertisment for it, did the dude a favor and voted for her even though they asked me the login with my nintendo account
KOWASHITAI still hits hard, genuinely good song

>>556012946
>they asked me the login
Meant to type "they asked me to login" don't you guys dare think I gave some shady website my login credentials

>>555918128
No fucking way they made their own general, why'd they pull off a soul hackers general

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Holy shit, this general is so fucking dead, the last 5 posts are all mine
I wonder where all my bros went, can't blame them for leaving because this is my first time posting in years
I've been posting here since 2016, it was so good back then
Thanks for reading my blog

>>556012624
Can't tell if you'd like that since I never played it, but I have played Slice & Dice, and the sheer speed and momentum you can build up from having a strong build and team setup reminded me of the press-turn system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5UBfPwqp7s
There's a demo on Steam if you want to try it out.

>>556013912
I've been here longer than that but I'll be fucked if I can be assed to come up with shit to talk about

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>>556014013
Will check it out, thanks anon
>>556014019
Well, I just found about kaneko's new game, what about that?

>>556014483
that's just a repurposed gacha with AI generated demon designs so I didn't play that shit and haven't looked into how the new version differs

>>556014750
That's so fucking sad wtf

>>556014871
Kaneko has lost his marbles

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>>555965138
i hate this stupid loli bitch so much

>>556015794
But you'll still have sex with it won't you?

>>555992795
TMS should be forgotten as the embarrassment it is

>>556015849
no fuck her she gave the redux final boss a full heal that was not fucking funny

>>556014019
How did you finish SMT IV

https://x.com/SMT_BDG/status/2018242653243269396
the figurine table top game is not dead (yet)

>>556016396
what do you mean by how

>>556016953
Nta but maybe he means your build and or your alignment

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>>556017184
gun and chaos

>>556016093
If it's at your expense it's really fucking funny.

>>556017391
Based non magic abuser hoi enjoyer

>>556015996
It's more embarrassing that you're still seething a decade later when there's more important shit to be angry about

How much longer until devil survivor 3?

>>556021598
They'll only do that after they make both previous games available on PC

>SMT1 came out in 1992
>SMT2 came out in 1994
>SMT3 came out in 2003
>SMT4 came out in 2013
>SMT5 came out in 2021

Based on this data, when do you all think SMT6 will come out?

>>556022526
2030 at its earliest, atlus will probably make them appear busy for the next few years by remastering their older catalogue and make them available in newer consoles but god knows what will happen when they finally run out of those.

when will the first fully AI generated SMT come out

>>556022526
I'd imagine 2035 at best. You have to remember that SMT VI hasn't entered development yet and every team is doing their own thing(P-Studio working on P4R & P6, EO team working on EO, Team Maniax working on Raidou 2).

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>>556022526
We peaked with strange journey, just let it die, smt v and vv was a humiliation ritual

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/smtg/bros... we won the reverse custody battle.

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>>556024190

>>556013186
Sh2 was a flop, metaphor was not

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I'm on the third floor of the Temple of Eternity where is Yoko's fine ass at Tao sucks
Also where are the last 10 Miman they're not showing up on the map

>>556025265
SH2 is not a flop since it sold more than the Raidou remaster

>>556026075
>>556024883
>>556023309
>>555998251
>>555997432

>>556025934
>Tao sucks
my dick

>>556012946
He was told to buy an ad and he did.

>>556025934
Just fix the fox NPC and pay him money to show you where they are? None of them are hidden if you pay him in each map.

>>556032101
the absolute madman

>>556013912
ill revive it with my fangayme

>>556013912
You posted during American dead hours.

>>556035261
Who is killing Americans?

>>556025934
You only get Yoko back before the final boss.

>>556012804
I don't remember if it was IV or IVA or both but late game the ability to recruit multiple demons per battle then fuse them on the spot was so goated.

>>556037280
The America vs China cold war will be the focus of SMT VI.

I believe SMT VI should be the game to finally execute the world tour idea atlus had all the way back in SMT 1... because honestly I'm pretty tired of Tokyo.

>>556043603
I assume the chances of it happening have actually decreased after we moved to 3D. Can you really imagine current atlus making enough unique assets to convincingly convey multiple different distinct areas of the world?
Pffff
Maybe if they were willing to just compromise and make a modern, brand new 2D game. But thats as likely as pigs flying

>>556044689
Basically this. Asking Atlus to make a game of that scale is asking them to basically take 30 years to make one game.

Getting tired of Tokyo is essentially saying you're tired of zombies in Resident Evil

>>556045745
I stopped paying attention the RE after 6 but didn't the last game have vampires and werewolves and shit?

Temple of Eternity was the most embarrassing dungeon ever made. And Nahobino is back to his ugly original design. How do I find motivation to beat Shiva and Demi-fiend?

>>556045745
not really

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>>556047738
You mean you weren't EXCITED and HYPED at the incredible return of Aogami to claim his boywife for all eternity regardless of ending while his brother is cucked to death in the EXACT same scene? You didn't stand up and CLAP!? Are you RETARDED!?!?!?

>>556048290
No, Aogami is boring. I also took Yoko's hand which I guess it's Chaos because Mastema got all mad. I don't feel like a Chaos badass to be honest the last 20 or so hours have been very underwhelming, I don't feel like I'm about to beat the game. Weak climax so far.

>>556048751
That ending isn't about badass chaos, it's more like sympathy for the oppressed. I wouldn't blame you for thinking that is boring but at the same time world of STR is so over done in mainline since III it was getting obnoxious. Also if you want a real destroy everything and fuck off, get the destroy the throne ending in CoC. That's more destructive feeling than CoV chaos, unironically.

>>556051559
CoV you literally wipe the slate clean with yoko and start over

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>>556053553
>about to destroy the throne
>get cucked out of it because of Lucifer fight
>don't get to see the world being destroyed
>just pointless scene of escorting Yoko out of the Nahobino's soul

Was it more interesting than Tao's ending scene of watching school kids fucking around, yes. But I would have rather seen him destroy the throne and then wipe out the world itself with raw power and flood it into an eternal primordial ocean. That would have been fucking cool.

CoV Chaos route is garbage because you nor Yoko have literally no idea if the world will be free from the throne system or you'll even be around to see it considering everything is getting erased

>>556054517
What's going on in that ending is explained in the game it's just scattered all over the place between different character. It's messy as fuck and it makes it so you don't really know what you're signing up to do besides destroy the world but that makes it sound like a horrible idea and is more so done for sympathy without any context. After you piece everything together, what you're actually doing is this:
>Fight Lucifer to have the power to destroy the world
>Destroying the world means it has to be rebuilt from scratch without a throne
>It's going to be an endless water world because that's how the primordial world was in the beginning
>Nahobino has to remake everything, including making new demons and humans by himself (he's two people so that's probably the loophole has to how he can do that)
>Essentially he kills Tiamat and takes her place in chaos, everything she was going to do, he does instead
>Yoko is the "goddess of chaos" essentially a guide and advisor, basically the same role Tao takes alongside the Nahobino in the law end
>it will be a road of hardship where demons are constantly trying to kill the Nahobino
>humans that die in that world can't be reincarnated and will wander eternally as spirits
>it is a world of eternal darkness

It sounds like a hellhole but there is the potential it will get better as the trade off. It's a fresh start but the primordial world is pure shit.

I wish all Vfags a rotten day

I think you guys take the endings of these games too literally. I think they are more about what you are trying to accomplish rather than what actually happens once you do it.

>>556054098
I like the symbolism, V and Yoko leave the tree of knowledge hand in hand while the snake chills, a stark contrast to the messy ending Adam and Eve go through. It implies that the world without the thrones curse really will be one for the oppressed.

>>556058003
I think you forget that most smt games explain exactly what happens in the ending you pick and CoV chaos is annoying because it's one of the few endings that tries to be ambiguous but not really. It actually explains itself just in an extremely messy way. And it's only messy because you're stuck with Tao through all of Taito. There should have been a branching path where you take Tao or Yoko through that area and then they explain their ending to you through that segment. They fucked it up.

>>556061385
the fact that you will never breed is a mercy

>>556059309
>I think you forget that most smt games explain exactly what happens in the ending you pick
I think I just ignore it because it doesn't matter. Nocturne had the right idea of just rolling credits after a character congratulates you on getting the ending you wanted. The endings of these games are ideas not events.

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>>556022684
>>556022827
oh my fucking god imagine if they forget alice or make her mc's love interest??????????

>>556061559
fujoshit respond

Meltie alert

>>555955025
Persona discussion is allowed but only game mechanics and which personas you would have sex with.

>>555954932
only 1-2. all 3-5 discussion is in /pg/.

>>556064714
"discussion"

>>556061614
>if they forget alice
How could they forget the soul?
Without her, we are lost.

Is Vengeance a big step up from the regular version of V? I was really put off by the barren levels, bad music and lack of plot. This is coming off of 4 and 4: Apocalypse being my favourites in the series.

>>556065920
Instead of alignments, you choose a waifu and go to war over her.
This is only a slight exaggeration.

>>556065920
They had the chance to let Sahori live and they didn't do it, fucking cunts

>>556066089
>slight exaggeration
It's alright, anon. You don't need to soft ball him over it. The VV routes are genuinely just "pick your favorite girl".

Japs do not breed. jap men are too busy with Alice in Wonderland and little girl art production rather than producing more population which is not far from what im doing. Imagine if they did both!

>>556066482
I don't get why they made a new bitch when they could have just used Sahori for that role in the vengeance route.

>>555955025
Personally I just fucking hate the calendar system, I started playing P3P last year and I still haven't beaten it because I just do not have fun.

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>>556065775
They forgot her while developing smt3 cant trust them. Couldnt even give a spot for her in one of the dlcs
Cant trust fatlus anymore

I've honestly never liked Alice. She's the most generic creepy little girl character I have ever seen and the most interesting thing about her character is her relationship with Nebiros and Belial which is barely touches upon.

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>>556067789
Imagine if they expaned upon their pedo relationship

alice is generic and boring

>>556067789
I think she worked in SMT1 because she was just a random ghost that caught the attention of the counts by chance, after she became her own character all of her appearances feel the same.

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Assperging i again arent we, aliant

>claims to like alice
>hasn't died for her
hop to it

>>556068506
Goddamn youre right but shes supposed to be real first

>>556068506
I'd rather die for Alice than because I got jumped and critted thrice in a row by a random encounter.

>>556069375
level agility

Was starting P2 from PSP and set it to easy because I wanted a stress-free walkthrough only to find out the monsters hit like 1 HP for every time and if you don't want to fight them you can just use a guide how to eager/happy them.
Safe to say i should try it on normal huh?

yo SMTrannies i heard Slop Hackers 2 got a crack before your blue haired troon mainline game kek

>>556070647
yeah persona 2 isn't difficult by any means

>>556070647
P2's combat isn't the best, there is a lot of auto

>>556070681
You're going to have to pay me to play SH2.

>>556061573
And that's not only incredibly stupid you missed the point of Nocturne because every single reason was explained to you. An the only reason that wasn't explained to you, Yuko's, you get a cutscene showing what that world looks like. There is no excuse as to why Yoko's ending was as sloppy as it was. Plenty of people have bitched about it on the Japanese side for the exact reason. They pick her ending via alignment and don't even know what they are signing up for.

>>556072682
>every single reason was explained to you
As ideas. They don't give any information about the aftermath or systems that would be in place. The endings in Nocturne are all intentionally vague except for arguably the freedom ending which is just the standard return to status quo. The game very much intends for you to pick your ending based on vibes and less on theorizing how a world of solitude is even supposed to work.

>>556073756
>They don't give any information about the aftermath or systems that would be in place
Jesus christ, they are all incredibly straight forward.
>the strong rule over the weak
>everyone gets their own little world to themselves
>everyone attains pure bliss enlightenment, release from samsara

You know exactly what these worlds will look like and how you make them. You don't need hyper specifics. In Yoko's end she says you destroy the world and then explains nothing about how it's rebuilt within the ending itself. This is especially bad because you get a big warning from Mastema that there will be huge human suffering but she says nothing about it, she neither refutes it or says "Yeah that will happen but-". And you have to see that line from him, it's in a cutscene. It's not like it's optional dialog tucked away somewhere.

>>556074703
>"You don't need hyper specifics"
>asks for hyper specifics on how the world is supposed to be rebuilt
IT DOESN'T MATTER! The game askes me to my face if I think the current system is worth salvaging or not and I answered no. I don't need anymore information than that.

>You destroyed your world for the potential of a better world, not a guarantee one, but a potential one
Chaos is the potential man alignment.

>>556075605
The process for deleting and remaking that system is what matters. That was the whole issue with accepting that option and why the Qadištu were considered too evil to side with during the first half of the game. Aogami himself even says their desire is too sinister before he "dies". When it comes time to accept Yoko or not you basically have to ignore all the warnings you heard before hand regarding the cost of a full restart. It's why you have wild opinions regarding that ending from people who think Yoko's ending has zero downsides to it because Yoko does nothing to refute or discuss the ending. I guess I just don't know why people would be happy with an ending that isn't explained when Tao's ending got plenty of explanation.

>>556077192
And Tao's ending hinges on the "potential" of Bino being able to fix the system the past creators broke. Neither is a guaranteed spelt out in front of you fix to all problems. The only thing that matters is which one you personally think is the best solution. Whether or not they work out is not something we should ever know.

>>556077868
>The process for deleting and remaking that system is what matters
Not it isn't. It's literally interchangeable with any other restart button from a nuke to a new dimension. Once again you are getting lost in the "how?" When the only thing that matters is the question the game asks you for the entire game. "You wanna reset or try to fix this shit?"

>>556068368
this, she's fine as a one-off. then she was just a hidden boss. now she's a mainstay dragging out the same tired bit.

>>556078493
If that's the case, the answer would always be erase. In the cutscene where you choose between Yoko and Tao, Yoko makes every case for why the world can't be fixed and Tao is purely hoping against hope. Tao makes no counter argument regarding the downsides of Yoko's vision besides "wouldn't it be sad to lose all our heckin progress? :(" and that isn't an argument. Instead Tao should have brought up the fact that you have to turn the world into an endless water world of complete darkness and human suffering but if she did Yoko's ending would be unjustifiable just as it was for the Qadištu at the start of the game.

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>>556077192
neutral bros... where did our trusty fence go?

>>556080756
Tao is arguing for the existing people, she brings up all the characters as deserving to have their wishes heard and says that Yoko will just erase them. It's a pretty sentimental argument, but it works for her character. They should've kept the original description of her ending, though. I actually wonder what happened there.

>>556080756
I think you are too autistic for the narrative of this game. You keep hyper focusing on the little details instead of the bigger picture. All of your conjecture of "x said this therefore y is the better ending" is pointless. Heaven forbid you ever read a book or watch a movie with an ending that's up to interpretation. The process of changing the world is not a new concept in these games and the method to do so will keep changing from game to game. Everything about the throne and the tree is just background details for what is ultimately the player deciding which world they want to create. In Vengeance you have two options and the game argues them back and forth between the two main heroines until the end when they stand apart from one another and you have to choose. The one you pick is the one that happens and that's it.

>>556081770
They should have kept that explanation and also added another one for Yoko's ending. Both could have used it. At the very least though, everything said in that cut narration is just a rehash of everything Yoko said would happen so it's not that big of a loss.

I really want the next SMT to have the same vibes as the first DESU. We had 5 post-apocalyptic games in a row, it would be interesting to have a game about societal collapse as the apocalypse is still happening.

>>556082102
bro your strange journey

>>556081878
>you're being too autistic
Over the fact one ending was explained and the other wasn't? How is that autistic and not a valid critique?

>>556082214
That game didn't take place in a Tokyo where people are just starting to go wild, but yeah, I guess it wasn't post-apocalyptic.

>>556082225
Out of all your problems with Yoko's ending, that's the one you have? Not the fact that she disappears for the entire last fourth of the game, which just rehashes the last fourth of Vanilla with some changes and more Tao dialogue, and then just returns at the end (and then most of her route's final hour is just an obvious recolor of Tao's)?

>>556082225
What is explained to you in Tao's ending that isn't in Yoko's that you are having such a problem with exactly? Because it's not like she lays out the step by step process on how she's going to fix the world she just says she's going to try and then you get a vague cutscene with the main cast being upbeat but there isn't a single detail about what she did besides restoring the old world. Not that I think that should be explained because I completely understood what both endings were trying to accomplish already.

>>556047738
it was a lot easier to access unlike shakan though, you just get there, grab a couple of high-level demons' essences and then suddenly it's metatron and abdiel fight.

>>556082584
No, that was my entire issue. If you could have taken her instead of Tao through Taito she could have explained her ending on top of getting the same playtime as Tao. Both problems are intertwined.

>>556085175
>hey beano now that we have some time to chat let me lay down all the finer details about my ending like how exactly we are going to rebuild the world and what is going to happen to people's souls and shit
I would have been very upset if an alignment rep tried to explain that shit to me.

>>556085890
Tao stops you in the temple of eternity to do just that you retard.

>>556086386
Oh really now. Tao explains how exactly she's going to fix the world? In a way that makes sense and doesn't leave anything up to interpretation?

>>556086587
Yes.

>mfw tao is explaining how to fix the world is by having so much raw sex with her

>>556090970
Pray tell.

>>556091519
https://youtu.be/5Z6WU9FJ4KY?si=CsFZdjaoJMMw6akj&t=25587

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NSFW pixel animation of Astaroth and Tokyo Tower Witch
https://litter.catbox.moe/oty4xpwj2gf9i69y.mp4

>>556091823
That didn't explain shit wtf. All she said is what she WANTS to do not how she's going to do it.
>I want to save people who are suffering in this broken world
>the reason for all the suffering is because the creator made it this way
>so we have to do better to create a perfect world
>a world where all of humanity's can come true
>it won't be easy but we can do it
Damn you sure sold me Tao. With logic like that who needs a full reset.

>>556092374
>All she said is what she WANTS to do not how she's going to do it
By taking the throne you stupid fuck. Why does she have to explain that part when you played the original game that explains this?

>>556092447
>why does she have to explain that part
She doesn't that's my whole point if you haven't been paying attention. This is apparently the clarification that Yoko's ending needed to be understood by people.

>>556092625
The throne when taken makes whatever world you envision a reality. You're told that well before Taito and it was in the original game. So she doesn't need to explain that taking the throne does that. It would be a rehash of info you already know. In regards to creating a world without a throne, there is nothing in game that explains how it works or if it's even possible unless you dig around for clarification.

>>556094227
Exactly. So I don't need to think about how the minutia of Tao's ending works I should just trust that the route I choose accomplishes it's goals. And yet Yoko's ending still confuses people.

>>556091849
Based

>>556094613
It feels like you read nothing I wrote.

>>556095064
The feeling is mutual.

>>556091849
The music speeding up as the fucking got more intense got a chuckle out of me.

Im pro-car

playing v for the first time and i just want to say yoko is my wife ok bye

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>>556097703
we know, nobu

yuzuru's sister will NEVER be important to the main plot. seriously why does she even exist as a neutral heroine when she does nothing and sits in the fairy village all game

>>556099872
built for egyptian cock(s)

>>556099872
She's not a neutral heroine, she's just tragedy bait because of her illness, and she's a bit of Yuzuru's motivation for the whole world of myriad gods nonsense... then there's Vengeance, where she's pissed off at koshimizu for fusing with the MC, and that's about it.

>>556009792
Was gonna ask if the IJN Admiral technically being a bad guy you take down be good enough to not be censored, but this screenshot shows me that merely being possessed probably wouldn't be good enough for those still understandably pissed about Japan's WW2 war crimes. Hell, even the censorship seems kinda half-assed in this screenshot right there.

>>556016810
Assuming this project actually succeeds, I would unironically get myself a copy of this board game. Hopefully they would come pre-painted but that might not be the case.

>>556026280
Out of curiosity, can anyone tell me the story behind Avery's schizo ramblings and how they started?

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Boo

>playing Strange Journey and doing that little trick where you return back your demons to the stock so you can deliver the final blow to the boss and hoard all the exp for yourself
>the boss actually hit me first and left me with just 6 hp before i ended him
is the order of the attack that random? i swear it changes everytime

>>556068506
>>556068176
>>556067789
I missed you too, queer

>>556099872
>neutral heroine
There is your problem. She's not.

>>556097703
Atlus should base a fiend off of vehicular manslaughter, bonus points if it's inspired by the Rat Fink or any of Ed "Big Daddy" Roth's art in general.

>>556101617
>Avery
He's had many names and harassed many generals. He's Avery because in his shitposting spree one time he doxed himself. He also revealed info about himself to some anon on discord and he posted the chat logs in smtg to give us a look into his sick head. He has a lot of family problems and self loathes himself for his unironic pedophilia which is why he's obsessed with Alice. He also posts on /pol/ and brings that shit posting here (like after Charlie Kirk died he kept saying everyone was trying to kill him here). It's also why he has to post that one IV meme in every single thread mocking some left wing e-celeb no one gives a shit about. He's easy to spot.

>>556109802
Ah, I see. Thanks for telling the backstory of Avery. Admittedly the IV meme mocking that e-celeb was kinda funny the first time I saw it, but it's long overstayed its welcome at this point since he keeps posting it in every single thread.

hey based on this speedrun video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJFTDdfZhjY, i should be 1/11 into the game!

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hell yeah

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>>556116865

>used sukukaja
>3 out of 4 got fear
>didn't use sukukaja
>only 1 got it
thank you have a very nice day

>>556109802
Anon there's like 3-4 schizos here, not one

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Balor is the next demon being added to Dx2

>>556127857
lame

>>556109802
You're wrong about at least two of these things (no I won't say which). It's like >>556124460 says, not all of the shitposting comes from him.

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Luv this beau’y

>>556133746
This is not in the spirit of SMT

>>556130495
>Your average nu-SMT fag when the demon isn't designed for gooning or being checking wholesome

>>556133746
thats not Ame-no-Uzume fake fan

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Look at this cute little goober.

Prompt decision prompt battle

>>556133746
Me too. She is one of my favorites

My fellow autists, do we think VI is announced this year?

>>556154489
hell no

>>556154489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwg8KrjwNY

ok then

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>>556154878
Combating the sloppa with more "throw beans at Onis" Japanese holiday art.

>>556127857
i keep hearing about Dx2, but i have no idea wtf it is. plz tell me its not a gacha

Why did god create the tree of knowledge if he didn't want humans to eat from it? Is he stupid?

>>556164816
Because SMT V story is poorly written

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>>556165056
SMTV?

>>556164816
Yaldabaoth was a retard.

>>556164816
Wait, which god? YHVH or the Great Will?

>>556164816
God the type of nigga to set up every possible scenario for his wife to be seduced then gets mad when she actually cheats on him.

>>556165407
Both. YHVH hid the knowledge in the tree, then Lucifer went and told all the humans. But, both of them were just acting as GW's avatars.

>>556164816
why did god make tokyo a death battle to see what humanity would do next and get mad when abel sided with naoya and became the king of bel?

>>556171092
free will makes god tard rage

Wow the final boss theme of Nocturne is very underwhelming. I had higher expectations from other smt games.

>>556175010
here's the real final boss theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5uT7fas-WE

>>556175010
what ending did you get? if you did a reason the final boss is one of the other reason bosses, freedom has you fight kagatsuchi and TDE has you fight lucifer

>>556175010
https://youtu.be/1DSo7OUA-yk?si=OWMWmX_KD7j-uvp9

>>556175010
The Lucifer one? The Lucifer one is fucking amazing, fuck off philistine

>>556175438
>if you did a reason the final boss is one of the other reason bosses
I fucking wish, that would be cool as fuck.

>>556176235
it is though isn't it? reasons don't fight kagatsuchi because he approves of them

>>556176759
no

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Reject reasons, reject freedom, embrace true demon.

>>556176759
Nope, you have to fight him anyways to prove you have the STR to bring your world to fruition. He's the final boss of every ending except The demon ones.

>>556176923
what if the demifiend became the denimfiend

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>>556165056
>>556165171
If you understand that V is just a gnostic retelling you're realize how stupid this statement is. V is even more gnostic than NINE. It's Adam and Eve reaching enlightenment while the true god supports them on their journey to achieve gnosis.

>>556176759
Nigga what? What made you think that?

>>556176923
>freedom ending also means these two can finally fuck

I do like the reason boss battle music a lot more than both the Kagatsuchi and Lucifer boss themes. The reason boss theme actually sounds like it belongs in Nocturne.

Alright anon, why don't (you) post your favorite final boss theme?
https://youtu.be/cu_GROLgBuU?si=TBKamuJqDst2g1op

>>556177602
Which is why you go true demon. For pixie.

>>556178205
posting two cuz I can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44F4Nb1NLsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nWl5Rfftz8

>>556178205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S73sumMd3nQ

>>556177084
Nobody gives a shit about this if the story isn't written well nor makes the player actually care about the world building and characters

Foul Warren

>>556178205
>song is literally only 1:15 minutes long before it awkwardly loops
>doesn't even change during Mem's second stage
This was weak sauce for Meguro
>>556178650
The Raidou pick is alright and Beelzebub is great but is not a final boss theme.
>>556178698
Only correct answer.

>>556179967
>is not a final boss theme
nigga it literally plays during the final boss fight

How come Hijiri/Aleph is the only protagonist to get the endless suffering treatment, why doesn't the Great Will do the same thing to the other protags?