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reminder that Nami is soft
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Counterpicked?
Check
Vs Varus top?
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Everyone wasting time in champ select and only locking in champs at the last second because they dont have a job and dont value time?
Check?
5 minute load screen because there is a literal nigger on welfare in the lobby?
Check
Only thing that is missing now is an afk into a remake
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20 games like this
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>>556160028
i was hoping for a list of 20 basic champs and I completely get your meaning.
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show us how it's done, sir
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>>556161393
IT WAAAAAAAS XD
At least I caved that subhuman varus niggers skull in level 1 before the remake went through
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Briar won
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once per thread quiota linking https://twitch.tv/miximumdennis
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had a dream a pretty platinum blonde queen with cute feet cheated on the king with me. dont blame her im the sexiest man on earth LOL! anyways this is relevant because i ended up killing the king with viego's blade
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>>556162602
they know i know they're on voicechat when we play together but they won't invite me
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all of my friends disappeared
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if yo have other way of contacting them, feel free to ask them to refriend you. the new patch is odd
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https://magma.com/d/IH1G8MDC3U
Valentines magma, join now.
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>tfw still full lp loss
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Ok ok maybe I would say it happened but happened but 6 million? Really?
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yea
this build was "cool" some time either early last year or the year before because zilean doesnt have much damage but is hard to punish so a streamer was doing grasp for a bit of poke since his keystones dont really matter
so people would unironically play heartsteel zilean
what you got here is a variation of that but with extra brain damage
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>Everyone wasting time in champ select and only locking in champs at the last second because they dont have a job and dont value time?
When they do this
And don't hover, so you have no info
Pick some shit last second that they are first timing in ranked
Destroying both your team comp and their own lane
Then they soft int lategame and flame the jungler
Time was you could bash someone's head in with a rock for disrespecting your time like this. We lost something as a species when we moved away from that. Fuck the internet
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>>556164793
Oh wow you're still here, that's nice to see. Hope you're well
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It's ruined chewsday innt?
I'm le sick, won't talk much probs
ttv chudra
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bros the amount of tilt is crazy. every one of these games was winnable but people would rather spite one another (and themselves) and lose than just retain focus on wincons. this last Sona game was traumatic. all four teammates hated each other, kept shit talking, and refused to group. yet they capitalized every time I caught someone out or counter-engaged with an ult. I truly do not get it. the mental in League is ruinous
even in those two losses, we stomped lane but the team just tilts. no one helped me with vision in the Sona loss so I had to keep facechecking to give us a fighting chance. in the Thresh game, we got ran over by Nasus, Zac and Yasuo despite destroying them in lane. J4 just kept backlining like he's an assassin or something and Anivia, for reasons that confound me, was unable to deter melee champs with her ult and walls. Nasus just sprinted at her and the rest of the team in straight lines. I kept dying by trying to peel. the Ryze was completely useless, and Anivia couldn't really pilot her champ despite J4 camping her lane and getting her ahead. MF was good but J4 was tilted and refused to let me initiate by catching people, so we had no frontline while those 3 champs run at us
I don't get it. it's even getting less fun to win as the competition gets better because it takes so much out of me to help the team somehow flail to victory through crazy tilt/ego. maybe I should just learn to play jungle and Rengar my way to Diamond
happy to hear suggestions if anyone has them. I truly enjoy support, but it's such a struggle when your team is actively trying to lose
anyway, thanks for letting me rant
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>>556167110
if you're spam pinging and still nobody comes to do vision with you, the game is lost. you're playing with retards and my honest advice is to just check out mentally and save your energy for next game. still happens all the way up to master elo
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>>556161158
another. FUCKING. Karma. thread. AND
SHE HAS HER CLOTHES ON? WHY?
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chuckled
>>556161584
this time I was up against a filled adc but lmao he thought he would get it easy with that silly pick w/ ignite. foolish mistake.
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>>556165227
still here. a curse and a blessing
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I'd love to but I can't. I must be indefatigable in outrunning the 50% reaper. and as the Sona game shows, even in the most extreme scenarios of tilt (6+ surrender vote attempts, each of the 4 teammates despised one another, everyone refused to group or wait for my flash ult engages on a mega-fed Caitlyn (Wukong for some reason refused to set it up)) it is possible to drag a bunch of ridiculously petty retards to the finish line
I'm just drained. I'm not playing soloq again today. I know these games are statistical outliers, but they're also play-more inhibitors. I just don't get why you would willingly choose to play to lose
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love to see it
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My profile looks so fucking badass like you just know I'm a rapist IRL who rapes innocent rape victims by raping them even though I am not that kinda person but you just know it as well #tuff
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won the game with full ad sion jungle ama
or dont, anyways kinda wild
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>all four teammates hated each other, kept shit talking, and refused to group
don't keep chat on if you can't think of a reason other than using it for your own purposes. you know and I know that this is a very common occurrence when the game isn't going favorably.
>facechecking to give a fighting chance
this is a common fatal mistake that support mains make. I know from experience and playing with support mains that struggle with learning this lesson. It's not worth it. Ward conservatively and over walls if you have to. Every ward doesn't have to be perfect so long as it grants vision of places where the enemy might set up an ambush for your laners. If you're quick, you can back rapidly and be back in time to match team tempo.
I dont have anything for the idiots in your team. I'm having one of those days myself
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Remembering some older times. Not necessarily better times, but older times. Older times as in, they took place in the past. Before now. Older times.
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post op.gg
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you two should add each other!
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https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/Chad%20Virgin-EUW
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GET ME OUT
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gooned to reb again today
champs for this feel?
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yeah, you're right about facechecking. I learned that lesson in that Sona game. now I do just attempt the shallow warding techniques and just shadow teammates. if no one wants to help with objectives, then I'll just wait
I'd love to play more Bard and stuff where I can easily take risks or ward through odd angles, but Sona is too good in this elo. people throw so much that her ability to keep carries alive and also provide powerful counter-engage (ult) is too valuable. she's even more versatile than Thresh in that sense IMHO, especially if you can't guarantee yourself a hard carry ADC partner
agreed with all your other points. I did end up muting everyone except Brand, but I could tell they were all still rage typing. I ended up getting 3 honors in the end though lol
>I'm having one of those days myself
I'm sorry man. hopefully it bears out in your favor over the long run. as you know, just stay mentally present for map state and wincons. have to ignore all the weighty tilt, as frustrating as it is
which roles do you play and what elo? just curious. I'm currently about 65% WR Plat 2/Emerald MMR
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>>556169539
>shadowfire lamb
so based
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posting my kindred skin tierlist again :3
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>>556170946
clarify
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lol
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i do all the time!
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>>556171309
sorry i didnt expect tiermaker to be retarded and give me a tiny png
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another day... another ehc victory...
kind of sucks you go 20 kda and only 1 person honors you...
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dunno. I got lucky after rank reset and didnt get stuck there and managed to breeze trough emerald to diamond, then the riot agents came but i had demotion shield.
Ig just stick to 1 role and otp a champ and have a few easy back up picks in main and off role and DONT rage queue.
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Bard requires hands and teammates having map awareness and a willingness to cooperate. He's not going to work so well in your elo (or mine - not trying to sound high and mighty here). I honestly don't mean to insult you or your intelligence with that statement. I feel like Bard's a waste of everyone's time below Diamond, maybe even Master. Stick with Sona until you feel like you've sold enough of your soul assuming that is how you feel about picking her. I think she is definitely more versatile compared to Thresh and I'm sure this kind of statement made a few people cringe. But it's accurate given the common scenario you outlined.
>I'm sorry man.
I really shouldnt be playing in my mental state to be honest with you. But I want to. I always appreciate reminders such as the one you gave me just now, and I am glad that you appreciated what I said earlier.
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>>556167494
LOL not even playing adc and still showing THE FUCKING VLAD OTP HOW YOU PLAY TOPLANE also got plat 3
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>Bard requires hands and teammates having map awareness and a willingness to cooperate
strong disagree. even if you're trying to you can't miss meep auto -> Q, and you can win anyone's lane instantly by coming in, dropping an electrocute trade on their laner and leaving 3 health packs. It's also 100% risk free because of portal.
Basically you're bad and bard is disgusting is what I'm trying to say
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Let's unmute on EUW for a microsecond
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>>556171813
valid but lolg thinks maskless is cringe
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>>556172072
that's fine. I'm not going to argue my hands requirement claim for the champion overall. but I will argue on this one:
>you can win anyone's lane instantly by coming in, dropping an electrocute trade on their laner and leaving 3 health packs
you think anyone can just go and pull this off as smoothly as you could? Granted, I know exactly what you're talking about as I got my cheeks clapped last night in the way you described.
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thanks, anon. I honestly enjoy playing her lol. she's got a strong trading pattern in lane and very flexible skill paths (Q if crushing/good ADC, W+E if tough lane). plus her charged W & E are very underrated. the move speed and shields/heals are insanely valuable in 5v5s or when protecting ADC. the only champ I really don't like to pick her into is Pyke. every other hard support is easier to deal with. I'm sure as I get into emerald and supports become more commonly mechanically good, I won't want to pick her into Brand/Leona/Blitz/etc. either, but for now, she's got such a high baseline for safe/reliable
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I think that anon means timing good ults, using Es well & near-instantly in chases/deep vision gambits, hitting flash+Q combos when you're the one that's wall-side and you need to reverse it, etc.
Bard "only" has a 49% WR so he statistically is not so easy that he's a free win
he's also one of the few supports that requires legitimate spacing ability in skirmishes/trades/team fights give the auto + Q pattern early, and the multiple meep autos later
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>>556172324
>lets just accept a harmless friend request
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>>556173274
nice try, anon. looks like your Noct was not too useful (dmg) and your Jinx didn't have much space or is just not great at spacing. she should have more damage than 39k in what appears to be quite a long game even just whaling on Shen & Leona. plus her resets should allow her to totally outplay Brand Q and Zoe E/R
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>>556173519
thanks, man. it was pretty discouraging to lose despite my best efforts, but at least I'm pretty happy with my performance
I need to get more aggressive at leading though
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niggas in the year of our lord 2026 be building dusk & dawn on a catfish.... a fucking catfish... nigga you ain't gwen, just build tankoid items baka shaking my head
not really an "impressive" clip but he cried about getting killed there in all chat so that made it funnier. it really is THE inflated season
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>The world of Runeterra..... is it VR.... or an illusion inside the crystal ball of some wizard somewhere..?
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>people on 4chan whining about toxic players
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>>556174029
just remember: if you consistently perform well, that is a statistically significant advantage over the long run because you now have maximum 4 bad players while the enemy team still has maximum 5 bad players. that 20% difference is obviously meaningful
if you want to play more aggressively with leads, I recommend learning assassins. Zed is pretty strong rn, but really anything works in soloq until you're consistently playing with cohesive teams (maybe D3+)
if you like the mage types, Zoe and Syndra are good ones with catch potential while still being able to provide zoning control and sustained damage
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>>556174163
>The other question of course, being, what are the burgers like in the various worlds and locations?
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>>556174230
>whining
i just collect screenshots and get people banned
you think i'd be offended by being called a nigger for the millionth time? or from being called a bullied kid in school? when i finished highschool before 90% of the playerbase was even born?
lol
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lick. lick. lick.
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>>556174389
>Inquiring minds want to know.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF4phqlbI3g
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if it's so inflated why are you struggling at 50% despite being the same rank last year?
https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/BludWithDaDawgs-SKBDI
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>>556166301
yeah anon go for it!
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>>556174897
I played kled and nasus at the start of the season... it didn't go well...
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you're also in the bottom 50% of game performers on average (perhaps even 25th quartile if we run the math) on your Poppy and have secured a single "MVP" over the last 20 ranked games despite top being one of the over-weighted roles for that score
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Two things can be true. A retard who doesn't understand linear algebra can say "1+1=2" and it'll still be correct. An iron 4 player saying that this season is the most inflated yet (and looking at challenger lp scores, I would agree) is still iron 4, but not wrong
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>>556175093
you? the lion.
me? monkey.
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https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/patch-26-3-not es/
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What kind of Seraphine merch/toys should Riot make?
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not an argument
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fair point but scores matter less than distribution. inflation is due to overgrowth in supply relative to demand, not simply due to raw numbers
anyway, I'm really just making fun of this dude for being stuck in emerald and getting carried in a supermajority of games. he'll likely be <50% by season's end despite talking shit
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>>556175228
>briar buff
she can't stop winning!
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NA VGS IN 3 HOURS !!!
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>>556175228
fuck this nigger
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>>556176276
YEAH, BABY
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>>556176175
I don't have a hateboner. I will likely forget about him by the time this thread dies. I do feel a bit bad now since he hasn't replied
>>556174147
my apologies, friend. keep whooping ass and you'll be the consistent wincon in no time
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>>556172034
don't try that Baus Sion proxy shit on this gremlin
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>>556176518
wow. im at a loss for words. you're chill, whomever you are
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>>556176439
im 2528
>>556175985
there seems to be no good ai yet. i wonder why. i think reading just stats is not good enough and an algo would have to read the vod file and process positioning and such too
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>>556177040
dont ever confuse me for a shaco player again if you know what's good for you
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How does he see the game so differently, /lolg/?
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>there are people here born in the last millennium
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>>556177491
i'm younger than youtube!
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>>556177305
I'm having ChatGPT do that for me shortly. I just created a replaycast account that auto uploads private youtube videos. I'll let you know how it goes
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fair enough, anon. have fun out there
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this doesn't seem very significant. he's still great in a meta with strong ADCs + assassins + bruisers, still has great synergy with Bandlepipes. why would he drop off just because he has 20 less base hp?
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>lobby crashes and i cant honor my team
>i have to close the client
>it wont boot up again no matter how long I wait
>have to restart my pc
I love riot games and I love vanguard, thank you for keeping my game cheater free riot I will buy the viego skin now like a good paypig because I love your crashes-every-other-lobby product so much
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Hello! ヾ(•ω•`)o
I've been getting into TFT lately. I really enjoy it. I saw that bard 2-cost was popular and I wanted to try it for myself. I thought it would be a good idea to instead by 1-cost units. As it would cheapen how much gold it costs to 3 star them for bard. I believe this is a fairly consistent strategy though I am new to the game and have only reached plat. Are there any other TFT players here?
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>>556177701
you know you don't.
smartass.
inb4
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>>556178947
honestly braum does well into all of those. he has a positive winrate against all of them except senna. especially brand thats like his best matchup in the game, how can you say thats a counter? He can delete brand Q or brand R if hes not a complete chimp with his E
and like. honestly he should beat senna as well.
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>two games in a row
>top darius 4/10/4 vs volibear 12/3/4 inner lost at 12 minutes(!) fastest i've seen all season
>jg viego is 1/8/7 with the lowest KP in the game vs a 4x squishy team
>top kayle 1/7/1 vs shen 6/1/8
>jg sylas 3/8/2 vs 7/0/8 mundo
I LOVE PLAYING VS +5 LEVEL GAP MUNDO WITH SWIFTIES HEARTSTEEL FON DMP
JUST KITE BETTER LOL
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>queue up league
>play some ranked in the new season
>get a noise complaint within a day
Yepyepyepyep szn is the best one yet they really fixed it
Jungle is weak
Counterpicking is gone
I'm giving last pick on redside and not forced to blind 90% of games
There are no more griefs, afks, soft-inters, dogs that spend more time flaming than playing
Yepyepyepyep the game is soooo good please give me another juicy cuck lane where the only course of action is to stay behind tower and hope my team wins I love firstpicking
Oh my jungler is pathing bot again and not even ganking them or getting drake? It's okay his mother is alive and well
I love szn16
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>>556179190
can't block Ws and can get a reaction just by Brand auoting (which looks like Q)
if Braum is just waiting for Brand R in team fights, I would hope the Brand knows to wait because there will be smaller cooldowns that force Braum to shield
Karma & Sona should destroy him in lane just based on incremental poke. their Qs come up much faster than his E + range advantage
Senna is even easier. let him waste E on an auto or 2. it also doesn't block Q heal or W root
it's all about bullying him badly early so that his kit is less effective later due to gold/item adv
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>>556179462
depends on the elo. you're very likely not mid diamond+ so it doesn't matter. macro win rates mean nothing if you know a champ. a good brand beats an average braum in low elos all the time
also, an average brand having an 8-12% disadvantage against an average braum isn't nearly unwinnable. braum can never stop you from scaling
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>queue up league as fill
>jungler
>pick evelynn
>bot and mid immediately get diffed before I even reach 5 but it's okay because we have varus top
>start looking for kills at lvl 6
>get a few kills and objectives, bot is ultragapped at this point
>adc (kaisa) crying and shitting herself when I go for a play with varus because she can't fight (with our mid) the monster she created
>pantheon supp actually putting in work
>still win
>get honors from mid and top
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I'm 29 and I main Draven and I am a senior developer at a financial company and I play lots of League of Legends on the weekdays and I lift and I have sex with a tranny prostitute who doesn't have a ballsack anymore every second weekend (I keep her from Friday evening till Sunday morning). Thank you for asking everyone
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case in point: https://u.gg/lol/champions/braum/counter?role=support&rank=emerald
up to emerald, brand is up in gold through lane. frankly i don't see how he can ever be down in gold in lane. it's ranged vs melee with an unblockable w for brand
maybe if you're up against a really good braum+lucian combo or something you can get melted but that's rare in soloq, especially below mid-diamond
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game went through before you replied
we lost, kek
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[OFFICIAL] Changes to streamer mode
Enabling Streamer Mode will now also hide the information of other players in your game from you.
The change looks to combat "players who use Streamer Mode to troll their teammates from the safety of anonymity."
Via Patch 26.3 Notes
kek streamer mode selfmutes
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>>556181409
based tryharder
looks like your ADC was the real problem
you should follow my advice here, assuming your priority is to climb: >>556174289
GL, anon :)
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>>556173274
that games would piss me off so much like you wouldn't believe. What does the jinx think happens when leona braindeadly hits her R or flash E onto her? that she will flash it every time? no cleanse or QSS when they have zoe brand leona NO wonder she goes 7/13
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one of the best changes... now you can't harass otps like me because you wouldn't be able to tell right away... streamer mode doesn't even work streamers dont even use it...
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>>556181495
my goal is to climb (sorta). really I just want a tangible measurement of my growth, and ranked is just one way of doing so
I had been thinking about adding an ad midlaner to my pool to round out my roster though. zed I think requires playing with screen unlocked right? not sure I can pull him off. unlocked screen makes my eyes dizzy. how about yone? at least, yone as an introduction to ad mids
thanks for chatting with me and cheering me on anon, I feel a little pepped back up
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>>556182462
Yone could be great. Yasuo as well. both are highly mechanical and highly rewarding. you can also play stuff like Lucian/Trist mid, Jayce (he's getting nice buffs), Irelia
zanier picks like Kled, Zion, etc. are available
the world is your oyster, friend. I recommend picking stuff that can side lane/split strongly and also has the ability to make catches/delete squishies while having the mobility OR durability to get away
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which one should I jerk off to?
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>>556182941
sure, mages in bot are actually really strong rn
I think the obvious advice would be to be careful about your trade windows because you can easily miss skill shots and be a sitting duck if the enemy laners aggress and have dodges/gap closers
probably don't pair Syndra with an enchanter unless you know your jungler will gank for you. best is stuff that can set up free Es for you or chain off your Es
also, be careful about wave management. it's important that you don't stretch too deep towards enemy turret unless you're confident in 2v3/4 or in team backup or you have stabilized deep vision
try it out. I'm sure you'll enjoy
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What is Riot's obsession with X champ having to be best in X role because they think it needs to be? Why can't they just let a champ be good in whatever way naturally occurring updates lead it to best at?
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>>556182941
yes, I have. Not since the new patch, but I've wanted to. Will soon, probably.
it's great but it has its flaws along with its benefits. The main flaw is that your support cant be an impatient retard, but even if he is, you'll be okay by yourself just like any other mage bottom. Remember to throw cannons on his head with your W if you see that he has support item charges and is hiding up your skirt. Save your E just like you would/should for mid. Don't waste it for your stacks and use it for self-peel or, optionally, to bail out your support.
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>>556183724
https://discord.gg/kB8erejZCa
also, >>556183627 if its not a joke youre getting banned again
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i just hit emerald 2 for the first time
both my sup and the enemy jungler were clearly inting with 15+ deaths
cinema i guess
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welp, I just fed a VOD review of a winning Thresh game through ChatGPT 5.2 and Gemini 3. I asked for brutal feedback (as if T1 Keria were shitting on me). both models hallucinated virtually every point they made and gave terrible analysis
Gemini's apology:
>You’re right. I completely whiffed that hook. Calling you an Alistar, then hallucinating a Smolder/Draven lane? That’s not just a misplay; that’s running it down mid. I’ll drop the Keria act for a second to give you the straight-up technical reality.
Why I Failed the "VOD Review"
>Current AI models—even the most advanced ones—struggle with long-form, high-density video analysis like a 30-minute League of Legends match. When I "watch" a video, I’m often looking at sampled frames. I can see you're playing Thresh, but tracking 10 players, cooldowns, wave states, and micro-movements across two 15-minute files is where the "hallucination" happens. I filled in the gaps with generic "Support mistakes" rather than what actually happened on your screen.
Is there a superior model?
>If you are looking for the absolute ceiling of what AI can do with video right now:
>Gemini 1.5 Pro: This is the "big brother" model. It has a massive 2-million-token context window, meaning it can "ingest" the entire video in much higher fidelity than smaller or faster models. It is significantly better at maintaining "object permanence" (knowing who is where and what happened 10 minutes ago).
>Specialized AI: There are tools specifically built for League (like Mobalytics or specialty VOD review AI) that use computer vision trained only on the Rift. They are better at tracking stats, but often worse at "coaching" logic.
it even forgot that Smolder and Draven actually are in the game, but that it was completely off on micro/macro inflection points
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>>556184587
your support may have been griefing you intentionally i do it a lot when someone gets me killed warding before an objective to prioritise a wave i just give their laner 5 to 6 kills and then ult backwards for the rest of the game
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this seems VERY good for late game support. I'm gonna try it on Sona next time. the synergy must be insane since W gives heal+shield, so you're only paying the +100% mana cost once for twice the effect
on the flip side, it probably means you can't spam Q/E as much in team fights. maybe stay away from Q altogether and focus on W/E
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>queue up for aram gayhem
>5 games in
>not 1 game without afks/griefers
you can't show me a competitive multiplayer game where you get into 5 games and you have 100% griefer ratio
you literally can't
the other day i reinstalled OW2 and apex and i was surprised how much better the experience is (even with EA/respawn tier EOMM)
as i was typing this out my browser started freezing,my cpu fans were spinning up like crazy and my mouse went irresponsive for 2-3 seconds
i check task manager and what do i see? VANGUARD USING 90% OF MY CPU YET AGAIN
the definitive riot games experience
you can't play the game and you get raped by china at the same time
what a fucking deal
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>>556185860
agreed. it's situational. you're gonna need mana regen from the core items first (Dream Maker, Crown, Helia at least). I'm just saying that it could end up being a great 5/6 buy over Redemption. but maybe not since Moonstone already gives you +30% shield/heal for 2200g without any disadvantages
maybe it's only a situational 6 buy over Redemption since the heal has a long buffer
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>>556186082
>what was this site again?
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>>556185490
1.5 pro is outdated as fuck. Nice try ig, but that just goes to show that general-purpose LLMs (even multimodal) aren't suitable for this. Not going to stop vibe coders from offering it as coaching services though
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>>556187052
https://youtu.be/4SVUKyLBlUw?si=QuQLKNDvsY_SnHzT
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>>556187052
whether or not grok ai is challenger in soloq in korea, if ai companies cared about making a challenger player, and riot games allowed ai to play, i see no reason why the ai companies couldn't make an ai to reach that level
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https://op.gg/lol/summoners/kr/%ED%83%9D%EB%B0%B0%EA%B8%B0%EC%82%AC-%E D%95%9C%20%EC%A7%84
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I feel bad for my teammates. They didn't directly flame me for my abyssmal early performance. I warned even before we banned champs that I was autofilled. Even offered to ban a champ for them. I'm indifferent *at best* when I get my secondary role, but when I'm not in the fucking mood to play anything else than adc, especially the last few games of the night, then why put me in fucking autofill AGAINST A THRESH OTP. Yeah that surely is fair. I thought you guys would mitigate it, but you found a guy who will have a cakewalk. and for what? I certainly hated not playing what I wanted. My teammates mentaldoomed and lost LP. Getting autofilled yourself is the single worst aspect of league full stop
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I dunno. it could just be a pro smurf. it's not unheard of for them to hit Challenger with ridiculous win rates. we hear about it all the time when players bootcamp
plus, the video creator says in the first 10 seconds that it's speculation
>>556187525
I'm not sure the compute is there yet. LoL is a fantastically complex game. people will meme, but it's chess x 10,000
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>>556187971
yeah, but think about how much information it needs to observe and absorb while maintaining those 50ms reactions. plus don't forget about all the foreplanning since macro wins the game
now imagine how it will digest everything in an elite-level 5v5
there's just no way AI is there yet. that is a mind-numbing amount of extremely complex processing. it requires the inference models they are working on now which are NOT yet anywhere near scalable
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>>556188128
Yeah, we need a much better architecture, like how transformers revolutionized the field. Scaling up doesn't work anymore, but that's not stopping companies from trying and fucking over the consumer market in the process
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i think i might have played poorly and now trueskill decides i belong lower. there's no other explanation for them sending me inting toplanes and jungles three games in a low. i've failed some crucial metric for ADC in this elo so they're sending me lower. it's fucking over. i need to take a break and think about how to cheat the metrics. i can't get good metrics in games where ultrafed juggernauts run me down though so what are you even supposed to do at this point? curse riot.
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I see this article, so that's genuinely exciting: https://openai.com/index/openai-five-defeats-dota-2-world-champions/
do we know what the game conditions were, though? the human interviewee at the end of the article doesn't sound particularly impressed
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if you just get a jungle bot that always smites dragons or doesn't try to get dragons when it can't, which will always smite barons, frame perfect, that would not require a lot of code written or compute but would win a lot of the time, easily more than 50%
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but can it path? can it invade/match ganks? does it know when to go in and when not to? does it play around the team? does it ping/communicate? what does it do outside of being coded purely for frame-perfect smites?
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definitely still very cool. I'm just curious to know if they ran it down mid or what. I don't think we are anywhere near AI "out-thinking" the best teams. that would require AGI
put it this way: kT in 2018 took arguably the 3 strongest carries in LOL history to 5 games through insane macro. can an AI beat that sort of team where they play around 0ms reaction times with exclusively human foreplanning?
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In the April 2019 "OpenAI Five Finals" match where OpenAI Five defeated the Dota 2 world champions (OG), the game was played with several specific conditions and restrictions designed to simplify the environment for the AI while remaining strategically complex.
The primary game conditions were:
### **Hero Pool and Drafting**
* **17 Hero Pool:** The game was limited to a specific subset of 17 heroes: Axe, Crystal Maiden, Death Prophet, Earthshaker, Gyrocopter, Lion, Necrophos, Queen of Pain, Razor, Riki, Shadow Fiend, Slark, Sniper, Sven, Tidehunter, Viper, and Witch Doctor. (Lich was previously included in 2018 but was removed for the 2019 finals due to a significant game patch that changed his abilities).
* **Drafting:** Matches used a Captains Mode variant restricted to this 17-hero pool.
### **Gameplay Restrictions**
* **No Summons or Illusions:** Heroes could not summon units (e.g., no Necronomicon), and illusion-based mechanics were disabled. This included the removal of Illusion Runes and items like Manta Style.
* **Invulnerable Couriers:** Each player had their own individual, invulnerable courier. This removed the need for the AI to manage courier positioning or coordinate sharing a single courier with teammates.
* **Disabled Items:** Several items were removed from the game, including **Bottle**, **Divine Rapier**, **Quelling Blade**, **Boots of Travel**, **Tome of Knowledge**, and **Infused Raindrops**.
* **No Scan:** The "Scan" ability (which allows teams to check an area for enemies through the Fog of War) was disabled.
### **Technical Constraints**
* **Reaction Time:** The AI's reaction time was set to **200ms**. Earlier versions of the bot reacted in as little as 80ms, but this was increased to better mimic the average reaction speed of a professional human player.
* **Information Access:** OpenAI Five accessed game data through a semantic API rather than visual pixels. While it received information instantaneously, it was (1/1)
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strictly limited to information a human player could see (e.g., it could not "see" into the Fog of War).
* **Observation Frequency:** The bot "saw" and acted on every 4th frame of the game, which runs at 30 frames per second. This resulted in the AI making roughly 7.5 observations/actions per second.
These conditions allowed the research team to focus on high-level strategic coordination and team fighting without the bot being overwhelmed by the mechanical complexity of all 115+ heroes or the nuances of micro-managing units like illusions. (2/2)
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we have compute bottlenecks right now due to energy constraints and token capacity, which is why every model continues to increase tokens and why elon is going gigachad space cruiser mode with satellites that harness solar power to the tune of terawatts for his 100,000 H100 local server farm
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>>556189174
That's just because everyone is trying to use LLMs for everything, which are extremely inefficient at scale (but still the best we have for text and shit). Look at computer vision and whatnot, specialized algorithms/models need far less compute/memory for the same efficiency
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>>556189404
well, we're going far beyond LLMs at this point. Nano Banana, vision models like you mentioned, the new Kimi, Google's new Genie (swarms/dedicated subagents/direct software integration/makeup, etc.), plus physical & vision models
it's getting fucking spicy
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What was it she did to break your heart
Betray your heart and everything
Kiss you with a kiss that wasn't true
It wasn't you at all
Hide behind a painted smile, did you know that
You would live a lie or two
Pull the very ground from under you
And leave you nowhere else to run
You can sail the seven seas and find
Love is a place you'll never see
Passing you like a summer breeze
You feel life has no other reason to be
You can wait a million years and find
That heavens too far away from you
Love's just a thing others do
What is love
Til it comes home to you
Did she promise you the world and did that
Girl just throw your love away
Leave you like a lonely solitaire
With just despair for company
Do you think you'd find revenge so sweet
Make it so you hearts will never beat
Squeeze the very last and dying breath from
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been debating getting a chastity cage with a sound. On the one hand it's obviously fetish material and makes me feel like a gross pervert. But on the other hand I absolutely hate getting erections.4 games in a row I've tried playing Samira jg and 4 games in a row she's either been banned or stolen.
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yea it's called adobe premiere pro cc 2022 and it's free because i pirated it
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>>556189753
I'd still consider them LLMs since they also process natural language. I don't quite know how proprietary multimodal LLMs like nano banana work, but given that there's a reasoning block I'm inclined to believe it's just prompting an image model behind the scenes. Either way, they still rely on the same fundamental architecture that blows up at scale
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I liked TFT battle passes better when the final rewards were emotes. I liked the TFT shop better when it had emotes. The Unbound skins are awful because Mortdog is an idiot, and there's Battle for the Golden Spatula and TFT Mobile, which in China is a patch behind the scenes with superior cosmetics and a higher quality, more stable game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGt3Bf_V-Dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKA5fNHqj5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXIYFg0dZuA
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NA VGs are back and up!!
vg vs vg
password:vidya
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>>556193793
that's a fair point. I haven't actually read any papers on this stuff yet though I need to. I'm enrolling in law school soon and want to combine my JD with relatively deep architectural/systems-level knowledge to be relied on for in-house strategic guidance at a place like Anthropic, DeepMind, or SpaceX
this is related to /lolg/ because Faker might be AI
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>given that there's a reasoning block I'm inclined to believe it's just prompting an image model behind the scenes.
yes, LLMs can't make images. chatgpt also doesn't interpret memes you send it themselves, it sends the picture to an image interpreter (not an LLM) that recognizes there are dogs that smile in the image and reads the text in the image, then the LLM uses that text as input. and when it makes images, likewise your human non-prompt text "yo chatgpt make a meme pic with smiling dogs wearing sunglasses that say 'yo this shit is cash'" text gets converted to image model prompts. LLMs can't understand or make images or music. it's just a python script calling different models behind the scenes.
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YEP VERY BRUTAL WEEK CHAMP INDEED FR FR! TANKS ARE LOOKING PRETTY WEEK THIS PATCH!
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>tfw a braum game goes incredibly well
hes just so good if youre in sync with your auto attackers
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those ehc games are so numbing and fucking boring they can only crave for some attention on a random internet website
can you imagine waking up one day and thinking "wow, I spent years of my life clearing waves just to get a rank no one cares about"
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what...? if its so boring and numbing why can't adc players ever counter it...? almost like it takes skill or something...
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thanks anon...! here you go...
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Yeah, while true multimodal models exist (byte-latent transformers, I believe they're called!), I have a feeling that a lot of modern "multimodal" models are just separate models that interact (read: lose information) via text
My favorite part about nano banana is that it edits the ENTIRE image, meaning it feeds the whole thing through the model, even when only a small part is being edited. Since models compress (lose information) when doing so (via the VAE), it ends up looking crustier (and with subtle, unintended changes) every time until it's just a low-res, deep-fried mess
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>friend is supposed to hang with me tonight
>she's still not online
I coulda been playing more vgs you nerd!
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>WOOOOW REALLY BRO YOU'RE REALLY GONNA FREEZE THE LANE ON ME?
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW NICE CHAMP DUDE WOW REALLY WAY TO PICK THE BORING OP CHAMPS
>JUST PLAY SOME USELESS MEMEPICK LIKE ME DUDE
>PDF PDF PDF PDF PDF PDF
why is /lolg/ like this
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>tk teleports in, autos you once, and gets the swallow thanks to D&D
>still does 50-70% of my HP because tanks should also do assassin damage
Just get rid of him already
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I decided to check out what reddit had to say about the patch notes, there are a huge number of changes to champs and items
https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1qv0yi4/patch_263_no tes/
holy shit the npcs only talk about aram, is league just dead
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ROOTING FOR DABS THE WONDERCAT'S TEAM!!! :33333333
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>>556163992
Zilean main here. They're probably trolling, but honestly zil is a character you can build anything on and it works. I personally like full tank but AD bruiser is fine if you want more damage, and it's funny.
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>>556152771
>be jaxnigger
>complain about "a disgusting no skill [champion]... that statchecks everyone... while giving you aids with E"
You see the problem...?
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>When you have "Hide My Identifying Info" enabled, your identifying info is hidden for other players. Additionally, you will no longer be able to see the identifying info of other players in your game.
Holy, that's great
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+1 for dabs!
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i am streamiing it https://twitch.tv/miximumdennis
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kinda wish i could play like 10 games of lol a day but as soon as i lose one game i never win again. every time i lose one game i lose the next game as well. one day i played 7 games and that was like 3 wins 4 losses with losses coming 2x2 back to back
its either playing one two or three games a day until the first loss
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4 losses is not a 'streak' man. You have not even begun to scratch the surface of this game. You are a casual. 4 losses in a row is nothing. I fucking celebrate 4 losses in a row. You have no idea what true losers queue looks like.
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skill issue
idk if i lose first game i might play another
i broke my rule on quitting on first loss today so if i lost first game tomorrow that would already be a three loss streak and i would go mental
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i had a 22 loss 5 win stretch last year
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>client hasn't crashed yet
>only 1 client bug so far which gets solved by a restart
>no disconnect bug so far
>minigame isn't bugged
5 minutes into the patch and i am having a million times better experience than on the last one
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>>556207876
yeah i have a similar, common experience. look at this.
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this was 29 or so hours ago
pic is as of now. I could go over the reasons, excuses, stories but you have heard it all before.
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>>556207876
Same, and I'm doing something similar. I'm done for the day after I lose twice. Recently my games have been like 1-2, maybe 2-2, I went 0-2 last week.
I think it's better mentally to have self control, and sit with the disappointment, rather than tilt queuing, so good job anon !
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wth lol
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/honks nose
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hnnnn... seems kinda aggressive.
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elo? opgg?
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>>556210271
Let me show you aggression!
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>>556211407
GET THE HORN NOODLES!!!!
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>>556212000
No noodle is going to save us...
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VG VS VG UP NA
pw vidya
theres another one going on thats in game btw
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>>556212901
that was rough im not going to lie
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>>556212878
Not my best performance. Sorry everybunny
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thanks for playing guys! was fun hosting for NA!
theres another vgs on right now, so be sure to join that one if you still want to play!
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I just like vgs
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not needed, I do it for the love of the game
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correct...
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I always wonder about all these custom games. Especially the ones with 1 person in it.
What are these? What are they doing?
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quick cast is very good for some skills. point and click shields/heals. things that you spam, like ezreal q karthus q syndra q. it is absolutely dogshit for 90% of abilities, though. if you see someone quick casting long cd skills like jinx e, rumble ult, or darius e they are 100% a handsless ape that doesn't notice they're missing everything
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>>556214795
Good Fish!
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>>556215106
today was my 2nd time participating in NA vg vs vgs
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Last thread there was a discussion on how Aurora is a wholesome dork chungus in lore, but a Sheldon Cooper Autistic asshole in game.
Which other Champions are like that? As in, likeable in the lore but have insufferable or different personalities in the game?
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>>556215587
goat, I have atank!
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>>556216607
they do post in here dumbass, just because they dont namefag doesnt mean they dont see it off thread
anyways results, also new one up NA pw vidya
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>>556216504
>discord has been a thing for 10 years
fuck...
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>>556216721
Oh my. I think I need to see this tank soon. Are you getting up later?
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>>556217025
yeah, but I still have no sound
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>>556218667
Dont look at her. Look at me!
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>>556220683
No.
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vg vs vg results
i didnt realize rape got me muted rip
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>>556220683
stupid sexy ahri always making me erect
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>>556221102
LOOK AT ME
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>>556221343
Locking up Ahri because she's being bad.
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I named myself Lillia and my pet Yone as a referance to my favorite ship.
Based or cringe?
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Custom game stackin'
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post more girls wearing tights
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tfw you lose a Mayram when you and your team had multiple times to end, but you decided to fuck around and try to kill the team over and over again instead
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>>556223348
How about Tight Dress?
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You can just tell everything interpersonal wise happens on discord in this general and if you didn't make a name for yourself in private you will be treated with scorn here.
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I want to get coached or have my game reviewed. I find it really difficult to critique my own play since well I'm not good and don't know what I'm doing really wrong. Does anyone know any reliable coaches and such?
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>reliable coaches
NEACE. He will reliably take 350 dollars to micromanage you sergeant Hartman style and in the process teach you less than asking /lolg/ would.
Just kidding, he doesn't offer his services anymore. I wonder why. It is truly a mystery.
Memes aside don't spend a dime on coaching unless you're already master tier and the player who would be coaching is grandmaster/challenger currently and has peaked at least top 10 once in his career. If those criteria are not met you should stick to content you'll find on youtube for free and maybe having some diamond 2 0LP peak Joe from r/summonerschool look at your profile (also for free).
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EUWanonbros of lolg, you are cordially invited to join my normal games lobby... will start in about 5 mins.
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How about Kai, then?
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>>556224857
I would go that far. people can learn a lot from coaching. Yes, yes, they can find that information out for themselves, but it's a world of difference between watching videos and having someone give you advice on how you can correct the flaws you don't see.
also, baby diff
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>>556225141
Or maybe a Sona.
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I got hard
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What am I supposed to do as support in the mid/lategame after warding the next objective area / likely teamfight area? Just hang around someone in case we run into someone for picks? Feels like half the time the team is all over the place with people all over the place in random sidelines so I'm just kinda adrift.
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>>556225347
Ashe, you're a married woman...
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Its just so hard to recognize my own mistakes... like its easy to see bad positioning or why i died in certain situations, but a lot of times i fee like i could punish my opponents harder yet i dont. I JUST WANNA PLAY GOOD
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>I JUST WANNA PLAY GOOD
same. ive watched a lot of shit and the best i can do is replicate it, but I know im missing some key things and making the same mistakes... only, I dont fully recognize the patterns or really know how to correct them
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>>556225771
something i struggle with a lot is punishing opponents last hitting. This is much easier to do mid but for some reason i cant do it when playing ADC. Or managing waves. Im terrible at knowing when to just last hit and when to push. Theres the obvious push hard when they're really low or backing but slow pushing... IDK IM REALLY DUMB AND IM NOT GOING TO PRETEND IM NOT
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Nutte in the butte!
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There are people like Jeffrey Hall who have done scientific studies on how many hours it takes to become a close friend, which is around 200+ hours. A person with more cumulative hours also has more points to remain within the close friend threshold even as years go by without talking, compared to groups with less or the minimum cumulative hours required.
It seems to me that league of legends is not a great game / place to make close friends, unless you are under 18, in which case Jeffrey Hall's study says you will only take half as many hours to reach close friend levels compared to adults. I don't think many people have the capacity to duo with 1 person for that many games honestly.
Adults = 340 games on average to become close friends from cumulative hours
Under 18 = 170 games on average to become close friends from cumulative hours
Thats a fuckton of games with 1 person. Imagine if you played 3 or 4 thousand with someone.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323783184_How_many_hours_does _it_take_to_make_a_friend
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>>556225648
You think that's surprising? Look at what Lamb is packing.
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good meowning lolg
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>>556226983
Mornin'.
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>>556224536
results
im done for now>>556224420
yeah idk about the play again button i mean people are just gonna use it regardless even if host leaves
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I CAN'T REACH GOLD EVERY TIME I MID AND TOP AND JG INT
ZERO OBJECTIVES
LANE OPPONENTS (ASSASSINS) HITLERFED
EVERY GAME
I CANT WIN 4 IN A ROW PLAYING 1VS9
AMAZING 400LP JUNGLE GAP AMAZING SIMPLY AMAZING
MEANWHILE BOOSTED RETARD ADCS ON THE ENEMY TEAM GET FREE ELO AGAINST ME EVERY DAY FOR DOING LITERALLY NOTHING IN LANE OR OUTSIDE IT
0 HOOKS HIT AWARD
5 DEATHS AT 13 MINUTES TOPLANE AWARD
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THIS
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STFU
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Holy shit, Louis... I'm gonna cum!
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*sigh* i'm the only who diffed the enemy corresponding role on my team as draven fucking jungle. fizz was a special kind of dogshit
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i just path based on if bot or top needs help and ensure i get drakes and grubs/rift, you just make sure your team is alright to take in a gank and the enemy has no vision/tunnelvisioning when youre ganking, also be kind of aware where the enemy junglers are
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Riot Games is such a baby company. I can't even do the least amount of flaming in this dogshit game. What a joke.
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>>556231080
The only chat log that you don't see completely is.
"u ree tards don't know shit about macro"
That's literally it. That's the only log you don't see completely in that screenshot.
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why do PEOPLE FUCKING WAIT UNTIL THE LAST SECOND TO DODGE
F UCKING WASTE OF TIME
IT SHOULD GIVE YOUA WORSE PUNISHMENT IF U LEGIT WAIT UNTIL 0 SECONDS TO DODGE
FUCKING NIGGERS
THREE DODGES IN A ROW EIGHT FUCKING MINUTES JUST GOING FROM LOBBY TO LOBBY
0 SECOND LOCK INS
0 SECOND DODGES
0 SECOND EVERYTHING
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>556231847
did you buy your first acc, baka?
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>>556231937
No, I've never bought a League account ever. I just got chat restricted on my new "main", and I kind of want to just abandon it, and play the good boy game. I haven't been the best in chat, and I already had a previous main perma-banned for calling an Ekko a nigger.
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>>556231994
>calling an Ekko a nigger.
Stating facts is ban-worthy, now?