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>>556225273
yes, but not in the way you think
it and the GL share the exact same round so whatever changes the GL gets the grenade wall gets too, but they forgot it exists and didn't update the armoury details.

>>556219256
>>556220393
What else is a downgrade from the first game?

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rizzed up the huzz with minimal effort
d10 whatevs

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>>556226318
the sickle
especially now that we know THEY CAN DO THE PULSED BEAM EFFECT GIVE ME THE OLD PULSE LASER SICKLE PLEASE ARROWHEAD

BUFFGODS WON

>>556226374
>buff the enemies
>buff the weapons
once they fix the dumbass bugs they introduced for no reason, this'll be a good update

>>556226343
3/4

>>556226343
brown moment

>>556226507
>Doing a mission where two of the objectives, and extract are all right next to a drone factory
I'm liking the drones being a threat now, but man not being able to blow up the factories sure makes things hard at times.

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>>556226318
NTA but

-Music
-P2 Peacemaker (Had burst fire)
-Breaker (Had piercing ammo, was a really strong weapon)
-Punisher (Was a really strong sniper rifle spiritually)
-Constitution (Could kill warlords (Hulks in HD2) from the front, had an absurdly long bayonet range, had almost no weakness once you learn melee dodge)
-Stalwart (Was a primary)
-Sickle (Fired lasers in pulse, was extremely accurate and had no recoil)
-Jump Pack (Had no cooldown and could be refilled by ammo, 1 pod drops 2)
-C4 Pack/REC-6 (Didn't take a backpack slot, had 180s cooldown, can't refill ammo)
-Exosuits (Arms won't break and could throw stratagems)
-Orbital Railcannon (Had 60 sec cooldown)
-Reinforce (Had no limits, you fail the mission if the last man dies and fails to reinforce)
-Ship NPCs (Had hair and one of them was cute)

Those are the ones that i can think of. Not saying that HD1 is better in every way of course.
HD2 double freedom mogs HD1's, and you literally had to buy a certain DLC otherwise you can't jog or sprint in snow planets. And Cyberstan was and is a snow planet.

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>>556226741
Picrel is a portrait of the science officer in your ship. The ship also had a bestiary but it wasn't detailed in terms of game mechanics.

>>556226343
full

>>556226741
- Punisher in HD1 fucking sucks, enemies have too much armor in higher diffs and it fills no niche
- Stalwart sucked, was outclassed by the Patriot and Justice entirely, no niche
- Sickle was worse, overheated much faster
Rest is fair

trident any good?

>>556175949
He retired his vtuber avatar after his autistic fiasco with Arrowhead. (It's really his fault for not reading the signs that he wasn't going to ever be in the program. He shouldn't have done that to himself, but that's what autism does to people.) He still makes videos, just nowhere near as often as he did. However now his bubbly enthusiasm has been replaced with a far more placid cynicism and a lot more critical takes on Arrowhead in general.

Basically he became aware of the nature of the Swigger, but because he has autism (the social retard kind, not the hyper-fixated on minute details kind), it required him to publicly humiliate himself for it to happen.

Really surprised that the resident Eravinfag didn't buy the plushie when it was being sold, just so he could 'ick on 'ravin in the threads.

>>556227450
a tier

>>556227450
People malded about it being light while forgetting shotguns do a ton of stagger so it CCs entire groups of enemies while having unlimited ammo

>>556226741
>P2
Armor piercing damage as well as burst fire. Most of the weapons in HD1 when upgraded are comparable to AP3 weapons in terms of what they could do without losing any of the damage that the AP2/AP3 paradigm has in HD2
>warlords (Hulks in HD2)
Actually no, hulks also exist in HD1, same exact name and role just with differing weaknesses and weapons. Warlords are more equivalent to War Striders due to being mostly immune to anything that isn't high caliber (AP4 heavy penetration, lasers at dead zero angles, burning from fire puddles or anti-tank weaponry) unless at low health. Also you could do the same with the Camper Sniper which is equivalent to DCS in HD2 or the P6 Gunslinger (upscaled silver P4 Senator essentially) which HD1 Constitution and DCS were essentially heavy pen instead of medium
>Constitution, absurdly long range bayonet
Same range as any other bayonet in the game of which your standard Liberator could be upgraded with, Amendment exists.
>C4 pack
Forgetting you can detonate them with a single button instead of having to switch firemodes which is still bugged for whatever reason and doesn't switch half the time.

>open world bots feel almost as strong as they were before the 60-day patches, a bit less now that players have more effective weapons
>city bots are only slightly more of a nuisance now, they're more able to track and snipe you from long distances but you can still easily lose them by running around corners
I haven't tried stealth yet with the new better-aiming bots, because I don't want to add more needless deaths to the MO counter, but I do wonder if it's still as broken as before where you just needed to put about 70 meters of distance between you and suddenly they forget that you ever existed.

>>556227690
>malded
Reddit faggot word aside, it needs the same customization as the Scythe. As does the Sickle. I'm getting really fucking fed up with these lazy swedish niggers giving us shit for customization on new primaries.

>>556227990
I prefer having new guns than uh... new magazine sizes but whatever you say malding unc

>>556228015
Small indie company can’t copy paste stat boost from one laser gun to the other please understand

>>556227257
-Punisher was THE gun for Illuminates due to how good it is at killing through shields. Pretty sure people still bring it to D13+ Illuminates too. It's a completely different case over HD2 where no one brings the punisher aside from trying to level it up.
-I wouldn't say that HD1 stalwart sucked, it's good at what it does even though it's outclassed by the best gun in the game, just like in HD2 except it was a primary.
-I'll still stand by my point about the sickle. HD2 Sickle's small delay before firing upon button press, the visual obstructions, and the fixed recoil makes it feel inferior to the more accurate, sharp, and snappy HD1 sickle.

>>556227450
inaccurate as fuck so every devestator becomes a headshot roulette but yeah it's a good laser sweeper

>>556227257
>Punisher sucks
It's arguably the best anti-illum weapon in the game, bar absolutly fucking nothing, because it one-shots D15 watchers through their shields from any range and would consistently do the same to tripod/strider heavy infantry on dead zero angles too meaning it stops illum drops on their tracks and also helps you clear them even when they do happen. It's a dubious weapon on Cyborg front but not half bad in Bug front.
>Stalwart sucked
Hold M1. No literally hold M1. It has inverse recoil mechanics like the negev in CS meaning the longer you fire the more accurate it is, coupled with 8 mags and, fucking what, 150 rounds per mag for only 3 upgrade points? You can just endlessly magdump and stuff entire waves of scouts on your own. Very strong bug and illum front weapon if used correctly. Not as good as Justice for clearing out heavy infantry though but the same can be said for Patriot. Not accurate or ammo efficient but you don't really care when you can lay out laser fire for like 10 seconds before reloading
Same thing applies to all the other MGs in HD1 btw.
>Sickle overheat
Tap fire. It's retarded but tap each shot, HD1 recharges the microsecond you stop holding the button unlike in HD2 where it has a certain delay.

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TANKERS CHOICE LOBBY ALL TANKS ALL THE TIME
Everyone try to be in a tank at all times. With 4 on rotation tanks only need to survive an average of 3 minutes. The two passengers can call in resupplies/stratagems and sport tank-like guns such as minigun, BFGL, AC, RR, flamethrower, smoke grenades, PDW smgs, sabers and flags for morale, etc. Can take turns driving on each person's calldown or I can just drive the whole time if no one feels like it

>>556227832
Fair enough but i'm preeetty sure constitution's long gun profile translated to longer bayonet hitbox.
Still, i had so much fun with that gun. Can't say the same with its unbelievably weaker HD2 iteration.

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>buff weapons
>buff enemies
>nerf nothing
>game becomes more fun
GEE IT'S ALMOST LIKE THIS ISN'T A PVP GAME AND GIVING BOTH YOU AND YOUR ENEMIES BULLSHIT CAPABILITIES DOESN'T MAKE YOU MISERABLE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PLAYING AGAINST SCUMFUCKING NOLIFE COMPFAGGOTS!

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>>556228387
tank is full

>>556227561
>Really surprised that the resident Eravinfag didn't buy the plushie when it was being sold, just so he could 'ick on 'ravin in the threads.
I wanted one, but they didn't get to their preorder goal iirc

>>556228387
fvll

>>556227561
Seriously though what was his thought process here? I could see this kind of meltdown happening back when the game was at it's peak and most people had no clue AH were chuckle fucks, but why ruin everything you built over something so petty?

>>556228015
Of course. ADHD zoomie tranny needs new content even if it's half-baked.
Quantity over quality.

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My honest thoughts on the update now that the hype has died down a bit

>Trident
S-tier, great on all factions. The warbond is worth it for this alone.

>Hammer
As good as a melee weapon is going to get in this game. Blasting hulks and war striders is very enjoyable, especially when paired with the warp pack. I think it would be fun on bugs, but probably frustrating. Hover pack + hammer kills on bile titans would be kino. Squids, you could bring it because you can bring anything. A good gimmick strategem, I'll allow it.

>Leveller
The Solo Silo gives you power and precision with a slightly longer cooldown. EATs give you excellent AT spam. The Leveller sits awkwardly in the middle. I think reducing its cooldown by 20-30 seconds would give me more reason to take it.

>AutoGL
A good middle of the road support weapon. The backpack capacity and handling hold it back. It can unleash the hurt when you need it to, but not for a very long time, and heavies eat up a ton of ammo. Also, the splash is small so you need to aim well against chaff. Completely overshadowed by the older GL getting buffed. As far as general utility goes, I'd much rather have the MMG.

>Shield grenade
Haven't unlocked yet


>Talon
Did not need a buff but I am not complaining.

>Bastion Tank
The real surprise and winner of the warbond. It's tough and it's got insane firepower. The big drawback is teamwork. I was on comms with my friend, and we shut down massive bot drops in a city map. But you'll see a lot of pubbies call this thing in, fuck around, and die without completing much besides getting kills. i'd recommend hopping in the driver's seat if you want to bring the maximum contribution to your team.

>>556227257
>Sickle was worse, overheated much faster
While it's true that it overheats faster, it also cools down much quicker than the HD2 one, and there's no delay either, you just let go of the trigger and it vents all its heat super quick. You just need to fire in bursts and it's never an issue, if you want to magdump in that game you use the stalwart or any other AR

"people" need to stop treating /vg/ like their personal blog

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these aren't siege mechs

where are the fucking siege mechs

>>556228753
Probably because he has autism. Or at least extremely limited social experience. One of the others, either Glitch Unlimited, or Commissar Kai lead him to believe that when AHS said, "Oh we LOVE Eravin! We totally just didn't have time to invite him" at their AHS HQ meeting back in 2023, that they took what AHS said at face value. I guess one of these retards didn't get that it was just the usual socially acceptable dismissal of an outsider that women and low-T (Swedish) men do. So Eravin (being bereft of experience with women) didn't know that he wasn't invited on purpose, because he didn't know how to read through the lines.

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I'm so tired of seeing Reddit tank, I give it 3 weeks for the hype to die down and everyone going back to using the FRV

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The multiple of the same stratagem glitch is working again

>>556229208
>siege mechs
siege what, their own fucking bases? the main objectives? just put down more bratty turrets

>invincible gunship tower
wew laddy

>>556229516
no one uses the frv or tank in pubs

>>556229564
Thank goodness it wasn't just my imagination.

>>556226741
you forgot to mention the entire upgrade system from the first game

>>556229605
Exactly, I'm talking about /hdg/ lobbies

>vehicle requires coordination from 2 players
>it sucks
shocking!
almost like we learned this lesson with 'support weapons' exclusively being carried by 1 person and not sharing the backpack because the mechanic sucks in this game.

personally the tank is better as a self propelled arty chair for personal use but that's just my opinion n shit

>>556229564
>>556229618
not invincible, just needs to be blown up from a certain angle

>>556229807
but I like it
and I had decent success in 10

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>>556229807
>add a coop function to a coop game
>it’s amazing when used in coop
>so it effectively filters 90% of the playerbase

The tank is probably really cool for newer players at lower difficulties. I'd rather just have two people shooting their guns in D10 though.

>>556229949
Personally it just doesn't soak up enough damage, should be at least twice as durable for how slow it is. As far as backpack reloading is concerned, it should draw ammo from the shooter's backpack as a priority, enabling people to 'hop on' to speed up your reload speed at random times, making for emergent gameplay that doesn't get fucked over by one player getting instagibbed or ragdolled away from the person operating the support weapon. This has been suggested for 3 years though so it probably won't happen

>>556230013
Me and 1 other half-competent guy can arleady handle a drop by ourselves.
If there is 2 guys in a tank raping half the dropships before they drop the troops then it just becomes a cakewalk
Having 2 guys 1-shot havies and soak up fire while i enact chaff genocide is also great.
The tank is fucking good

>>556229949
the tank is fucking dogshit and so is gachaslop

>>556226318
Orbital Railcannon strike had a 60s cooldown in HD1 compared to 154s in HD2(used to be ~185). You could also team reload any backpack weapons with any backpack, they weren't locked to the specific weapon type it spawned with. So players with a RR backpack could reload Commando users and vice versa.

>>556226373
THIS.
Why the fuck did they make it a weird projectile thing instead of the iconic laser. The trident got incredible treatment and the sickle gets fucked?

I really wonder what people complaining about vehicles being too squishy are doing with them.
Yesterday i spent 2 drops in my mech, getting hit by chaingunners, missiles, etc and i didnt die, didnt lose my arms. Yeah i was smoking by the end of it, but i was almost out of ammo anyway so the armor did it’s job, felt tanky enough. I even ran into a dev swarm at one time to keep the flag objective humming, again didn’t get insta-gibbed like some people here imply, did some shooting stomping and i was ok.
I did a stint as a gunner too, tank lasted a long while while we were mowing down bots at medium range, looked like we might ran out of ammo. We only died when the driver went full retard and started roadkilling a full drop.

The vehicles feel okay, the frv is supposed to be a light-skinned vehicle so it’s arleady shockingly durable for what it is.

>>556230549
Brownoids unironically can't drive.

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>>556230549
Walkers die (or lose arms) to a strong breeze, but the FRV is nigh impossible to destroy in my experience.

>>556226507
>buff the enemies
Maybe like a 2% hit rate buff but other than that d10 is a cake walk.

does the tank have enough hp to land a turret on it without blowing up

>>556230549
The tank is super OP if you know what you're doing. It's just that jeets don't know how to co-op, nor drive

>>556229526
cool, im going to bring 4 supply packs and smoke some faggot for the entire match

How do you turn on the spot with the tank?

>>556231139
just hold a/d while stationary

>>556231139
Tank has to be on neutral, stop moving for a second or so

>>556231089
Just tested it. The turret went right through it, but didn't immediately destroy it. Got banged up pretty bad though.

>>556229526
How do you do this again?

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>>556226343
ggs fucking chargers stole my bike

>>556229208
I'm guessing these guys are just factory strider tier and not hivelord tier, and we'll get the bot equivalent of the gaylord a bit later maybe. Or most likely the swede will get lazy and leave it at that.

Why the fuck did they buff the nade launcher like this? I can't wrap my head around it. It was good.

>>556231858
>the gaylord
holy shit that's hilarious, did you just come up with that?

>>556229516
>implying anyone uses the FRV

>>556231865
They needed the page 3 weapon on the 'bond to not be shit like the last one, but they are also too dumb to make the grenades different from the standard GL, so they just made both heavy pen. They forgot about the GL emplacement.

>>556232095
Calm down faggot. Go suck some dicks or something.

>>556232196
> too dumb to make the grenades different
...but they are different. the damage and the radius is smaller on the belt fed.

>>556232196
Is that heavy now too or do you mean forgot as in its still the same

Hope they add hd1 cyborg ost when the big patch next week drops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtwaDPxqB0

I got one G. Siege Breakers or Redacted Regiment?

>>556232196
>>556232271
see
>>556226253

>>556232271
GLe is unchanged, it fires the old med pen grenades.

>>556232256
who knows how their jank is coded. Maybe the projectile decides the armor pen and the weapon decides the explosion radius/damage

>>556232196
Grenade Launcher Emplacement has heavy pen, the tooltip isn't updated.

>>556232385
>who knows how their jank is coded
everyone with more than 100h in game
damage of the weapon is constituted by projectile values

>>556232385
>GLe is unchanged, it fires the old med pen grenades.
No it doesn't.

>>556232380
Redacted sucks unless you really want to do stealth, but even then you can pull it off with the Halo bond if you have it.
Siege is really good.

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>>556226343
ggz frens, interesting experience bore rock be
https://files.catbox.moe/sb0co2.mp4

>>556232196
>They needed the page 3 weapon on the 'bond to not be shit like the last one
C4 and lure mine are the best 2 things in that warbond, and some of the best items in the game aswell.

I unironically hate the music in Helldivers 2. It is genuinely the most boring, tame, generic movie-score shit ever. Please add a music warbond to replace the soundtrack with the first game’s soundtrack.

>>556232554
A lot of the audio needs work desu. Could use better mixing, more music, more diver voices etc.
It really is baffling that they haven't monetized new voice packs. Imagine if the Borderline Justice bond had cowboy voices in it.

>>556232554
imagine paying money to swap like 4 ogg files

>>556232668
They either don’t give a shit about adding that type of stuff, or they know that normalfags wouldn’t be interested in it.

>>556232675
>he doesn't know
the soundtrack has like 400 files

>>556227990
I think the model does 3x big scythe heatsinks. Still not ideal not having customization there but stats as they stand do feel like a mix of the big and fast cool heatsinks so I can’t complain.

>>556232668
I reckon they haven't done voicepacks because it's probably to much work to do it for all the languages.

>>556233219
Ohh, right. I haven't considered the game being dubbed. That makes sense.

>>556233219
>they have not done it because it's too much work
Sums up arrowhead pretty well I'd say

Feels like this is the best the games been in a while, specially on bots.
Feels a bit laggier, but it's really fun.

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>OG GL gets AP4
>BFGL gets AP4
>BFGL can move while shooting
>BFGL has no blur whatsoever
>BFGL is better than the maxigun in every single conceivable way save from point blank shooting
>Even the wall GL gets AP4
>Everyone likes it

Tell me, what's stopping them from giving the Maxigun AP4?
Machine gun mass buffs when?

>>556234139
Honestly at this point I'm expecting pen to go up for all machine guns, like why even use HMG at this point.
Also don't forget.

>maxigun sounds like absolute shit.

>>556234139
>what's stopping them
I dunno, anon. Maybe their own retardation? They left like 6 blue stratagems in the dust with this patch. I don't know what they're cooking, but it smells burnt.

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>join /hdg/ lobby after someone bailed
>13min left on the clock
>0 reinforcements
>no objectives done
I thought you guys were good at this game, this is pubbie tier

no you didn't

>>556234286
>I thought you guys were good at this game
Why would you think that? This subreddit is constantly begging to make the game easier

>>556234286
the update has brought in some people who arent good

why the hell are half the people diving on lesath NOT doing city missions?

fuck it just remove the armour system entirely so every weapon can kill every enemy then you'd never have to worry about gear checks or if you brought enough AT
and let's get rid of part specific HP pools while we're at it, nothing sucks more than dumping 100 shots into something but you only break an arm or something and the asshole doesn't die
and dam I really wish I could see how much damage each of my shots was doing so can we get exploding damage numbers flying off the enemy when we hit them too?
also losing ammo when you reload a mag that isn't empty sucks we should just have an ammo pool that only pulls as much as you're missing

>>556234585
because city maps suck ass? i don't give a shit about your gay galactic war

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I'm a smidge disappointed with how it looks like the cyborg's place in the bot faction is them being played completely straight as the secret controlling party and especially will be extra hard miffed if we will see the bot actually rendered into canonically mindless drones for real like what the SE propaganda says.

I enjoy bots being angry fire and blood ragers who decorate the places with iconography and crucify bodies and wear gore trophies. It all give them a bit of flair to stand out from other robot armies being emotionless/wholly utilitarian. It was fun to glean that the bots have a sort of spiritual reverence for the borgs and the Vessel 001 or whatever it was that their origin point had been.

the best thing about this update is the constant nerftranny seethe

>>556234275
They left OPS and every eagle except strafe in the dust a year ago and it doesnt seem like they are changing course.

>>556234585
have you tried using the tank in a mega city? everyone is in their panzer phase right now, and that only works on normal maps

>>556234726
>looks like the cyborg's place in the bot faction is them being played completely straight as the secret controlling party
why do you think that and not them just being liberated cyborgs from cyberstan? they were all sentenced to labour in the mines after the first great war, after all

>>556234842
ikr. I barely even pack reds anymore. Maybe a gas vs bugs and illuminate.

now that the dust has settled what are your toughts about the new warbond and tank

>>556234139
who is everyone?

>>556234139
I still wouldn’t give a shit about maxigun even if it went heavy pen. That initial kick and anemic ammo supply killed it for me

>how to fix OPS, 120, 380, walking barrage, eagle airstrike, and 500k:
flip the damage numbers on the projectile and the explosion
seriously, they have the stats of AP shells/bombs where the projectile itself does more damage than the explosion. In the case of OP/380/walking it's 3 and a half times as much damage.

>>556234959
>here's your tank Helldivers.
>It has zero armor and is made of wet paper towel because that's how tanks are IRL (realism)
>Handles like shit
>Need a buddy with you and can only shoot forward (our standards for realism for our futuristic game 150 years in the future have to adhere to our current date reality despite current tanks having a 360° rotating turret)
>15+ minutes cooldown btw

>>556234139
Giving maxigun AP4 won't change too much, it has dogshit durable damage anyway so it'll never shred heavies.
And the actual problems that cripple it, low ammo, zero mobility, shit handeling, removing your situational awareness, will still be there

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>>556234139
Maxigun should remain AP3 but should be massively buffed in other ways (damage, recoil, ergo, ability to move while shooting). Another, three-barreled GAU-19-like Gatling gun should be added with AP4.

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>>556228387
tank lobby 2/4 one rule get in a FACKIN tank
hive lord edition

the lack of purely ap5 enemies is gay, some fag with a sniper rifle shouldn't be capable of killing tanks

>>556234959
Tank is amazing with a 4 stack. It feels like the most team worky strat in the game, but FRV is a lot easier to use and get worth out of it.

Warbond is very lackluster. The hammer is the best part about it, while everything else is sorta just mid, awful, or a sidegrade. Leveller is pretty cool though, and I can see it getting a lot of use in the future for factory strider destroyer.

Trident is okay
Hammer is fun and solid
Armor is useless.
Shield grenades are neat, but worse smokes
GL I haven't used but heard awful things about it
Leveller is fun but another discount red.

6/10

>>556234959
>trident
incredible. Might be too good (also makes me angry about he sickle)
>hammer
Melee is a meme but this one is the least meme
>shield nade
amazing
>leveller
great
>nade launcher
it's alright, gonna be really good if they unbuff the regular one
>armor
ugly and bad
Overall a really good bond. I am pleased
>tank
It's fantastic if you have 4 non-retarded players and the side seat divers have good support weapons. If they do it turns into an absolute platform of death.
I wouldn't dare try it with randoms.

>>556235298
full crew

>>556234959
It's fun.
Despite the excessive cooldown on the tank, it can be deployed as many times as you like unlike the mechas.
New warbond makes melee actually viable and fun. New stratagems are good. Pairs well when coupled with stealth armors too as the hammer is silent when unloaded and still deals significant damage so it compliments the previous warbond as well.

>>556234695
Nigga who gives a shit about the war, I want to play on Cyberstan.

>>556234867

Bots are distinct from the borgs as they seem worshipful of the cyborgs but more explicitly laid out as lore goes is just the information around Vessel 00 from some months back which was revealed as some manner of ship sent off from cyberstan four years before start of the game the that is the origin point of the bot which is not something that a population of borgs should be avble to reproduce fast enough from to become the gargantium bot army we all know and shoot today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y99Rrc7naA

>reinforcements already down 7%
We're not getting to Cyberstan. With the jeet brigade obviously cutting us of when we'll be on Aurora Bay I doubt we'll even finish this MO

>>556235335
It's not a sniper, AMR is anti-material. PTRS but with post space age psudo-titanium/uranium alloy AP rounds and advanced propellants.

>>556234609
uh oh nerftroon melty

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>he thought the bots had organic components
>that was his actual headcanon
>somehow he convinced himself

>>556235209
>it has dogshit durable damage anyway so it'll never shred heavies.
let's run the numbers on that huh
1500 RPM, 25 shots per second, 0.04 seconds between shots
>bots:
hulk eye: 250 HP, 25% durable. 7 shots, 0.28 seconds
hulk body: 1800 HP, 60% durable, 67 shots, 2.68 seconds
tank heatsink: 750 HP, 100% durable, 42 shots, 1.68 seconds
war strider eyes: 500 HP, 70% durable, 22 shots, 0.88 seconds
war strider legs: 1500 HP, 80% durable, 79 shots, 3.16 seconds
factory strider eye: 2500 HP, 100% durable, 228 shots, 9.12 seconds
>bugs:
regular/spore charger head: 1200 HP, 75% durable, 58 shots, 2.32 seconds
behemoth head: 1600 HP, 100% durable, 146 shots, 5.84 seconds
behemoth ass: 950 HP, 100% durable, 53 shots, 2.12 seconds
impaler head: 1250 HP, 75% durable, 38 shots, 1.52 seconds
bile titan head: 1500 HP, 95% durable, 116 shots, 4.64 seconds
>squids:
harvester: leg joint, 1000 HP, 70% durable, 28 shots, 1.12 seconds

seems pretty shreddy to me, especially on bots. it's the super-heavies that bring the average down but those are fucking super-heavies, all AP4 support weapons suck against them

>>556234609
you joke but /hdg/ actually believe this

>>556234609
yeah they should remove friendly fire too

If those are enough to make the local tranny shut the fuck up and finally leave for good, fuck it, let's do it.

IT'S HERE IT'S HERE IT'S HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx1ocH9Nfqs&t=2767s

>>556234609
Remove ergonomics and recoil too, it's just artificial friction

>>556237029
>Remove ergonomics
didn't they just do that for sidearms this patch?

>>556236992
buy a ad nigger

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>brown hours

>>556236992
>"DCS is shit"
>uses it on bugs
Turbo shitter

>>556237116
Naw sway, which was artificial friction that added nothing

I fail the most missions on squids, because I mostly play them solo and when drunk and they have a lot of annoying an persistent quick kill/one shot mechanics that will only hit you at the bottom of a bottle

>>556237204
it is noon where you live right anon?

>>556237301
Oh, alright.

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>>556234726
Bots are getting expanded on big time and cultist storyline is loaded and stocked in the barrel or squid’s up next it begs the question of where they’re going to expand the terminid’s lore at. Introduce leader bugs? Expand the idea of species action and make bugs into multiple subswarms fighting each other as well as us?

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>>556236992
>they should buff the liberator to medium pen
Holy shit can these people go back to destiny or whatever shitheap game they come from

>>556236992
>liberator concussive
>"this is a stun weapon"
>"it stuns and confuses them"
>"it takes too many shots to stun them"
this guy has literally no fucking idea what he is talking about and thus his opinions are worthless

>>556237559
>>556237450
>>556237291
I look down on you all for clicking on this retardation in the 1st place.

>>556236992
why is everyone who covers this game such a retard

>>556237559
Lib conc does stun though.

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>>556236992
>Lib pen should be heavy pen
Do D5sissies really...

>>556237450
The video is specifically about how realistic the game's guns are, and realism is only talked about because those sperg swedes keep using it as an excuse to ruin things. Realistically it makes 0 sense that the Liberator, a 5.56mm full-size rifle, has the same penetration level as a 9mm pistol

>>556236140
bro really put eyes in there as if the shartigun's dogshit recoil doesn't exist

>>556237795
retarded bait or just retarded?

we lost 13 million Helldiver in around 1 day so its real save to say we wont make it to cyberstan

>>556237902
If you shoot a charger or hulk a bunch they'll get stunned.
Do you not play the game?

>>556237963
M-M-Master CHEFFFF!!>!>!>!?!!!1111/1!?!?

>>556237876
Hey random question what do you think of the recoil of the normal MG?

>>556237831
Sure it does. When they’ve compressed everything from sort of tough to seek armor less than ~2” into AP3. Anything under current AP3 should be next to useless on bots if we were playing by war thunder rules for example

>>556237941
I could have told you that before even a single helldiver died

>>556237941
For the sake of the MO, botGODS and squidGODS need to drop onto terminid planets and kill everyone there while dropping slurs on bugchasers

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>>556238025
It's good when crouched. Even better when prone. Doubled if you have the fortified perk.

>>556238062
You probably missed the whole segment where he criticizes the armor system and says there should be at least 8 levels of armor and penetration

>>556238280
>squidGODS
All 2 of them?

>>556238292
You moron. You absolute buffoon.

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>decide to do a bug mission for variety
>everyone else keeps summoning vehicles
>and then they explode and waste reinforcements when they aren't running directly into bile spewers and alpha commander hordes

>>556238364
atleast those 2 Heros dont waste out lives like the bugchasers

>>556238457
Whatever you say, faggot.

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>>556238292
yeah.... about that.....

>>556238558
NTA. Yea the recoil number is the same, but recoil is applied per bullet which would put the Maxigun at double the recoil, which shouldn't be the case considering it's clearly heavier.

>>556238358
I didn’t watch it and don’t intend to. But you can’t rework things in that direction in the name of realism without just making smgs even worse than rifles compared to how they are currently. They’d have to get moved to the secondary slot if you wanted them to seem worthwhile

>>556234959
Tank is OP as hell if you have a teamember/friend with an IQ above 80, otherwise it's ok.

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>>556238558
Yeah and? With that firerate you're bound to miss some shots and you'll struggle to drag your mouse down. Best you can do is probably a hulk by either dragging your mouse down or fire in 2 short bursts. War Strider's "eye" hitbox is janked/bugged/smaller than they seem because even the fuggin HMG and laser cannon struggles to kill them by shooting them in the eyes.

>>556238929
No wonder so many update tourists here are calling it mid

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played around with the tank. nobody is going to use it in pubs
you have to give up a strategem slot to either have the most boring job in the world as driver or become someone's drivecuck all for not much more than a RR and a rocket sentry would do and let's face it the rocket sentry is probably smarter than the gunner

>>556236992
>anti tank assault rifle
i hate this community so fucking much

What where they thinking when they buffed the GL? It was already the 2nd most picked strat on bugs

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>>556239202
you're right, they should buff everything else to compensate

>>556236992
>talking about armour penetration
>doesn't seem to know partial penetration lowers damage
>doesn't seem to know partial penetration is even a thing
>doesn't seem to know that 0 and 1 armour/penetration is a thing but nothing uses it
>wants to bump everything up a level instead of actually make use of the full range of penetration
>says hulks should have heavier armour
>doesn't seem to know that hulks used to have heavier armour as he makes zero mention or allusion to the previous state of affairs
I'm starting to think this guy is just a tourist sloptuber

>>556239202
They weren’t. It should go back to AP3, and the BFGL should get either ~200 damage per shot or 30-50% deeper ammo reserves. Considering anyone sane runs it with supply pack that would put it in a balanced state I think. Make one the great horde clear and the other an HEDP slinger that’s good against light armor but worse against chaff due to much smaller radius.

>>556239069
indeed, sure it can be a bit clunky at times but 30 one shot eat against all targets except Factory striders is insane and 2000 hmg rounds is better than both AT chair and HMG emplacement by far, plus being able to move.

>>556239548
>30 one shot eat against all targets except Factory striders
it does 3500 damage a shot
that's more than the RR, and the RR one-shots factory striders

>>556239202
BFGL having AP4 made sense somewhat. So we're going to buff the GL for muh consistency! (they're not even the same grenade type)

tfw no bacpack beltfed HMG

>>556239485
>>556239724
so wait, the BFGL uses HEDP rounds like that grenade pistol.... so why did they buff the GL?
the balance is fucking obvious, the GL is way better at chaff clear since its pure HE rounds have a larger and more damaging explosion, but the BFGL's HEPD rounds give it better direct target damage and penetration at the expense of explosive strength. It's right fucking here arrowhead come on

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>Trident + Talon

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Bugbros, how are the new 9 and 10? Is the bump in difficulty noticeable?

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The GL can kill war striders now therefore it's good. It's just that simple.

>>556239672
Yeah, I made a typo, saw it now. It was supposed to be "30 one shot at against all targets" But I accidentally pressed e, so it became eat.

>>556240053
this desu
tryhards seething at funChads enjoying firepower

>>556235212
What's your opinion on the Sikorsky U-Hawk project? Great for supply runs but frowned on for kinetic actions?

>>556239113
It's funny that the best part of the tank is sitting in the sponson with a support weapon and blasting everything around to kingdom come.

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is this trolling? bug? it was on a campaign planet i think. took on Jan 9 26

>>556239202
I think it's retarded. They were so opposed to the idea of a backpackless, non expendable anti-tank weapon that they made Epoch have a long wind up and also explode if you mistime it. Why does it still exist?

>>556240979
forgot to add that those weren't selectable (or i didn't find a way to trigger the prompt to pick them up)

>>556240979
>Fixed certain items not being interactable inside specific PoIs on Magma planets

>>556240738
Seems more like a gimmick than anything. We can't even figure out self-driving cars and they're trying to automate airborne logistics. The software isn't yet at a point where it can adapt to unexpected scenarios so it could only function with a metric shitload of specific infrastructure and only within a limited scope of scenarios.

>>556241279
This makes me sad. I can't believe I have to wait until I am in a retirement home before I get to see AI wars...

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jesus the tank is just insufferable to use in public matches
like 10 games at this point and only got to use it in one of them
everyone either

>runs away, tank draws a shitload of aggro and quickly gets swarmed and destroyed before I can even use it
>retard drives it into some dumb shit and blows it up
>retard empties all the ammo into dumb shit and the tank gets wasted, no you don't need to use the main gun for fucking devastators you RETARD how are you level 150

mostly the first one
BARELY ANYONE WILL DRIVE OR SHOOT IN THE TANK EVERYONE JUST WANTS TO RUN AROUND SOLO

COOL FUCKING TANK WISH I HAD FRIENDS ON VOICE COMMS OR THAT PLAYED THE GAME AT ALL PAST THE FIRST TWO WEEKS

FUCK

>>556241553
just host a lobby here?

What happened to all the war striders they're so rare now

>>556241553
it's one of the coolest experiences when you get to drive or gun around with it for several minutes uninterrupted, but yeah it's not meant for randoms.

>>556241553
just play with /hdg/ retard. we've got good tank crews here.

>>556241268
so is it possible to find sc in the wild like this? sorry i'm new

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ZhrAP7k6Y

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https://youtu.be/kx1ocH9Nfqs?si=QKOFViHhtwPjIjya
tl;dw - swiggers cannot design weapons to save their turd world lives
>inb4 buy an ad
Lower the difficulty

>>556241890
a little late, no?

>>556241897
we talked about this already stop posting this shit

What the fuck, Lesath was like 90% captured like 15 minutes ago...

>>556241992
i barely got into the thread anon, gimmie a bit
missed two entire threads before this by my count

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what kind of misc mods would you like to see if arrowhead ever decides to let us customize the mechs? right now i can only think of 3
>stratagem launcher
>shield generator
>self destruct sequence (hellbomb power)
maybe improved hydraulics that make the suit jump? or maybe increase the stomp damage

>>556241553
>In a pub match
>Dude next to me calls down a tank and pings it
>'Neat, guess I'll hop in as well'
>A cannon turret from 400 meters away somehow spots it and fires two shots, instantly disabling ti
>We manage to get out before it gets blown up
>Guy ragequits.
That was my only experience with the thing.

>>556242115
tracks

>>556241897
>>556236992
Buy a fucking ad sloptube nigger

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>>556242115
big-ass bayonet
armored legs
AoE heat vent maybe?

>>556242115
MODULAR WEAPONS
I just want to strap two HMG arms to a mech and gun down everything
God that bastion co-axial HMG makes me wish mechs had something half as good

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>>556241897
>Didn't even bother to watch the video even for 1 minute
The video is about how good the guns are lmao.

>0:55
https://youtu.be/kx1ocH9Nfqs?si=1tpwE_eYJNzFsDSA&t=55

>>556229807
>a self propelled arty chair
we shall call this invention… a tank

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>>556241897
i'm not even swedish

>>556242321
>>556242456
my idea was having 2 slots for the weapons and a third slot for utility, i was asking about that third one but your ideas aren't bad

>>556228475
>Buffed enemies
Tiny little accuracy buff didn't do shit for bots.

>two hours of "well mmm this is actually illegal in state of california"
i'm good lmao

>>556242321
from iron harverst?

>>556242684
Yea. It's a mediocre CoH clone but the vibe is real good.

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>vid btfos shitterhead's entire realism argument
>/hdg/ refuses to watch it because "muh sloptube"
>proceed to do nothing but whine and jack eachother off
>sloptubers they criticize affect game balance
You'll do nothing and whine about being raped by swiggers like good little goyim

>>556232380
Redacted for bots. Siege breakers for the other 2. Only you know if you like sneaking around.

>>556242115
Extra Armor so it stops being paper. Even reactive armor, if you want to have a funny "woops i killed the person next to me because i got hit" moment, which i know the devs are fond of.
The fucking stratagem launcher
Maybe one extra ammo magazine for the missiles
Stronger pen minigun.
More than anything, i want the lumberer to come back with the flamethrower/cannon combo.

>>556242629
Rocket striders are a lot better at ping ponging you to death, while gunships have gone from completely ignorable to at least generating some amount of pressure. But yeah while it’s a start I’d like to see them buffed further
>>556242820
Sorry nobody cares about your video Jeff. Try and make it interesting next time.

lobby doko

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>>556242115
>strategem launcher as a customization option
>when the HD1 mech could do it no problem

>>556226309
Makes me wonder if they're the reason the gun is so neglected.

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If the post-OoT didn't make joel's inability to fluidly GM this shit and forcing everyone into railroading for his shitty little HD fanfic campaign
then I am thoroughly convinced anyone who can't see it now that we've been given a 200M reinforcement countdown to failure when we've had an entire modern day Earth's worth of casualties in Helldivers alone over the course of just two years in this "war" wouldn't even qualify as subhuman

>>556243198
Saying the HMG is bad is just a simple self report and an easy way to identify a shitter. Simple as.

Incoherent babble

>>556227450
Amazing for squids and bugs, meh for bots.

Used it enough now.

The backpack GL is, IMO, a far more user-friendly autocannon that trades away the dogshit reloading for less range + more splash.

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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242879216116/76561198141964882

back on the game
killin bots

join NOW

>hellbomb called in right beside gunship factory
>goes off
>0 damage to the factory
>call in second hellbomb
>destroys factory

is that client desync or some other fuckery?
the hellbombs were called in at the same place and were less than 3m from the factory

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Tank trailer
>seaf fighting in non-city maps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ZhrAP7k6Y

>>556243935
Sex with furry divers.

>>556242115
Lasers. Powerful lasers/quasar

>>556243991
>>556241890

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>>556244067
There are texts speaking of this.

>>556244134
I want one that's Quasar on the right and a quad-linked Sickle.

>>556243420
But it is. It is literally just an usable gun. It has dogshit ergo, dogshit recoil, dogshit eco, and its theoretical DPS is never actually achieved, or matters, in practice. It's powercrept by every single other AP4 option (minus that shitty new belt-fed GL I guess). There's no self-report to happen, you aren't any better at using that pile of dogshit than anyone else, you just have a greater tolerance for bad design.

>>556243935
2/4!

>>556243935
3/4!

>>556235416
Hammer is fucking awesome. Reload is quick, so you can just go around bashing shit to death, and it's a heavy one shot 99% of the time.

>>556244317
Works on my machine. Besides AH will over buff it here soon enough since that's the direction the balance is headed towards. After all we wouldn't want the enemies to have a fighting chance, now would we?

>>556243935
FULL!

>>556242115
I can think of a few
>hull-mounted Dagger that fires automatically at enemies behind you
>hull-mounted Stalwart and a little step for squadmate to climb on
>smoke launcher array
>SE flag that pops up and does nothing (you need more?)

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>stealth lesath bot mission
>sneak into bases, plant a bunch of c4 or whack spawners with hammer
>quickly and easily complete objectives no hassle
>enemies are just fucking blind when you use stealth armor and silencers
>let crayon eaters deal with fortress or knock the scrambler side objective out first and do it yourself

>unga bunga lesath bot mission
>constant fucking rockets, enjoy getting knocked down every 5 seconds
>literally no time to breath because fuck you five more bot drops incoming
>oops all warstriders and devastators enjoy 500 grenades and 10000 lasers chipping away at your health
>also don't forget the three factory striders on route
>hope you didn't have any plans to use that cool shiny new tank btw there's a shitload of rocks everywhere that make driving it a pain if you somehow don't get folded by base turrets and stray rockets right after dropping it in

why would I ever go loud on bots
makes the mission take longer and more annoying

>>556236992
Kek based, I love watching this guy

>>556244962
It’s a skill issue if you’re not able to sprint through the map and knock out every spawner along the way. Your Stealth is bad because it’s slow.

>>556244962
Sounds like you don't enjoy playing the game all that much.

I want to go home and ride around in a tank.

>new bastion tank trailer shows SEAF outside cities
SEAF stratagem soon...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ZhrAP7k6Y

>>556245745
strata? nah, modifiers/condition maybe in wild areas

>>556245745
Cute SEAF-chans being my vehicle gunner and carrying all of my expendables and backpacks and support weapons around...

The APC will rape the tank to death, it comes with a autocannon turret that you can actually rotate around, same damage and penetration as the AC sentry (100 rounds) and it has 2 stalwarts on the sides.

>>556226741
I miss capes being an actual unique cosmetic rather than a shitty looking no effort .jpg animated by a shader that you're still forced to wear.

>>556246475
the outfits in general had more thought put into them, rather than being Sci-Fi reference of the week.

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>>556241897
>skip to the Diligence section
>Uhh DCS is better because it can kill devs in one headshot
>said as if the Diligence can't
>anyway the DCS should be able to kill hulks and be a mini-AMR
This retard is fucking clueless

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WOW NICE FUCKING UPDATE SWIGGERS, NOW I CAN'T EVEN GET THE GAME TO FUCKING LAUNCHED.
>already verified the files
>already deleted the shader cache
>already reinstalled my graphic driver
>no mods

>>556246813
>NOW I CAN'T EVEN GET THE GAME TO FUCKING LAUNCHED.
did you try not being brown?

>>556246813
that sucks kek go buy a ps5 you're clearly too retarded to use a computer

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We Mechwarrior up in this bitch

is quickplay biased to throw you into losing games since people leave or are squid players the dumbest alive

>>556247249
matches that go smoothly have less dropouts
you ever think about that

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>>556247015
>>556247085
Seriously, how do I fix this shit?

>>556243935
ONE SPOT FREED
3/4
STILL HAVE 2 MISSIONS LEFT!

>>556245987
I honestly wonder if its worth bringing the tank destroyer over the anti tank emplacement. Big tradeoffs but - no need for a competent second crewmember, way smaller hitbox, can actually turn around faster, shoots way faster, cooldown is way faster, fits in more places. You can kill all the same things in a faster time. The biggest loss is the coax. APC should solve all these issues

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>>556247404

Looks like Cyberstan might be pretty kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qm3WsAB_aU

>>556241553
The tank is not fun. I dread hearing "calling in a vehicle" then "follow me" or a ping. People are driving it around like a Abrams rather than a StuG which makes it really hard to shoot things due to the limited gun range. Also there should be a zoom like the cuck chair.

>>556243935
FULL AGAIN
THANKS FOR THE COOPERATION

>>556247404
go into your game directory and remove all files ending with gpu resources then reverify

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>>556247404
Try checking for any data that may have been modified or corrupted from the initial install.

I wish you could customize all armors with texts and killmarks like this

My heavy armors were created to be walking warcrimes

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>>556247659
Forgot pic because I am 400% the blackest gorilla nigger on SuperEarth

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Pretty sure Joel has slowed down the reinforcement bleed cause yesterday it was at 95% and today it's only at 94%

>>556244686
Boohoo nerftroon, afraid that the HMG could stand toe-to-toe with other options (it never has)

How bad are the schizos in /hdg/, I do not want to go to /wfg/ anymore.

>>556247404
Are you sure that your mods are uninstalled?
I had this error before I completely purged everything through the HD2 mod manager.

>>556247196
DEMOCRACY IS IN DANGER

CYBERSTAN MUST FALL

WELCOME HELLDIVER

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can someone else test this? why does it 1hko?

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doko no lobby

>>556243935
ANTHRO WOMEN FULL OF HUMAN CUM

>>556247856
you should probably go back most of this general doesn't actually play the game

>>556248029
that's the case for most generals that aren't gacha

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These bot bastards are getting crafty...

>>556244962
esl spotted

>>556248029
/wfg/ is not much better. The russian schizo is awake and talking about wanting to fuck dogs and his church of black penis again.

>>556248113
>russian propaganda game gets its thread destroyed by a russian schizo
it's like pottery

>>556247856
pretty bad, there are two gangs of autistic people shitting up the thread over nerfs and buffs, both are gay.

then there's the youtuber spammer (gay but also retard and autistic)

then there's the furfags who want to fuck bugs and robots. the worst of these is the weird korean chibi art.

finally there is a schizo who pretends to be a schizo by collating a list of lobby hosts.

and the real schizo of the thread is the last remaining maniac who thinks alexus posts here

>>556248163
warframe is russian?

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Laser minigun when?

>>556248190
You forgot someone

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We're meant to lose this MO btw
https://youtube.com/shorts/Rmt6ycNnAnk

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This will show up in Cyberstan as Boss Units

>>556241553
desu there might be the assumption you dont want anybody in it
have you seen how some people behave with a frv they FIND?
have had people drive right past me and make me walk to extract

where can I grab a link for my lobby?