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April's Fool Edition
Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves: Legends Edition Now Available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ur8WYwB0k
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2492040/FATAL_FURY_City_of_the_Wol ves/
>Season 2 January 22
https://youtu.be/tqe1RBmJ9S8
>Blue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYryNQTxuKE
>KENSHIRO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACnFBb_RAfw
>Community resources
http://dreamcancel.com/how-to-play/https://wiki.supercombo.gg/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet s/d/1zg8H1AgpgPBbAdpPdsGC3WRUEmGVaj bv2Ea6b-FZ1kI/edit?gid=0#gid=0
>DandyJ's beginner guide to KOF
https://youtu.be/Ye3KVgI1LvU
>KOFXV beginner guides
https://youtu.be/t-mYZnOFxlg
https://youtu.be/cqTpKMethDo
>KOF XV Grand Final SNK World Championship 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_og0dUoTlFc
>/neog/ Discord: https://discord.gg/HYAQYFh
>Official SNK Discord:
https://discord.gg/SNK
>KOFXV Discord
https://discord.gg/mePUQup755
>SNK Media Gallery
https://pastebin.com/R7uX3B5J
>Assorted Translations
https://kof.eu5.org/
>NEO-GEO FREAK Magazine Archive https://archive.org/details/@japanesemagazinesscans?sort=titleSorter&& and[]=subject%3A%22neo_geo_freak%22
>RedGGPO and romset
https://redggpo.com/
https://archive.org/details/2020_01_06_fbn
>KOF Official Site backup
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n98CoBR6GPywr3kzyydNCT5UHTwMNW51/view
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This is HER(his) month
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>SNK opened a new Motion Capture Studio in Osaka
https://x.com/SNKPofficial/status/2039233416747704411
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JWong posted his CvS3 theorycraft video. Is he spitting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUKUROhe2jk
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I hate to say it but SNK might need to drop a gacha again. Preferably something like KOF All Stars but with all their properties. They were onto something with brawl but no one wants to play some lame auto bullshit.
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>>562232565
But it won't be fighter/brawler/beat-up type because they'd be afraid of losing more Cotw players. So, my bet is it will bethe king of gems (raughs)
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>tfw SNK has become a complete joke company
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>>562215809
Not really but it made an impact for those who played in its heyday. And somehow its part of the game culture even if you didn't play it.
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>>562257081
I miss PRANKS
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>photorealistic akari body type
its fucking happening
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>Lady Goenitz
Genuinely should've been canon or at least had her design repurposed to be some sort of follower like the Mugen bitch instead of being wasted.
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>>562265595
There's nothing to really talk about. Everything just feels like a wrap up to the characters, there's no real interesting plot threads or anything. Most interesting shit going on that points to future conflicts is from the fucking street fighter collab than the character's own fucking stories. What the fuck happened to mark of the wolves, man. I almost rather it had stayed dead but there is a bit of stuff I like in it but fuck...
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Imagine how funny it would be to go back to 1996 and tell the former SNK employees what the company will become 30 years later...
They'll all be like:
>"Wait, wait... what do you mean by... ONE GAME??"
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K' looking blacker than usual
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>>562282583
i prefer his capcom version
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>1995
>the CHADSNK
Aero Fighters 3 (Sonic Wings 3)
Crossed Swords 2
Far East of Eden: Kabuki Klash (Tengai Makyou: Shin Den)
Fatal Fury 3: Road to the Final Victory
Galaxy Fight: Universal Warriors
The King of Fighters '95
Pulstar
Puzzle De Pon!
Quiz King of Fighters
Real Bout Fatal Fury
Samurai Shodown III: Blades of Blood
Savage Reign (Fu'un Mokushiroku: Kakutou Sousei)
Stakes Winner
Super Sidekicks 3: The Next Glory
Taisen Idol-Mahjong Final Romance 2
Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer
World Heroes Perfect
>2025
>the VIRGINSNK
Fatal Fury City of the Wolves
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So what's stopping them from making some relatively non-gacha small projects for mobile or switch or some shit? Athena's pretty popular. Boom, new psycho soldier game or a remake that implements some of the shit she and Kensou learned during KOF. Or a princess Athena game that's like a suped up version of Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland. Make a punch-out style game for Buriki 1 with Mr.Karate being the Mike Tyson of that game. Just shit like that. Nothing super high budget. Not everything has to be a AAA product aiming to sell millions and millions. The goal should be building up brand and character recognition with as minimal a cost as possible while still making a profit. They could use a smaller team to handle that sort of shit too while getting their more experienced staff working on bigger projects.
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>>562284538
You know, it's funny because back then they kind of tried to do those things (Beast Burster, King of Rhythm, KoF for girls). So, after they got the oil money and a mission (to bring SNK back to the >>glory days<<), it's easy to expect more smaller games like those. It's the most normal thought: let's make/pay for more games. Right? (The best route would be to emulate what Revolver Digital does in my opinion). But then someone (probably Oda) decided to focus the company on a new mentality. So, after receiving the oil money, they decided to "clean up" things (Kof15, Kofas) and "start from scratch," with Fatal Fury as the starting point. At the same time, they decided to focus on the mainstream/tournaments. This means following the stupid "core values" rules. So, any character that could be strange/controversial was removed/modified. Bye bye Freeman, Mary's boobs, Shota Hokutomaru. Even Mai's sexy appeal disappeared. Basically, trying to imitate big companies, especially Capcom. I bet Oda probably begged Capcom for a collaboration thinking, "If I walk near him at recess, the other kids will think I'm cool too." So, love or hate, their focus is on "big games". Not small/phone/indie games. The big problem. They're still focusing on fighting games and delivering graphics that are nothing more than late PS2 games with HD filter mod. Losing respect (they had more respect when they were making HD sprites). In the end, they're giving the impression that they're just trying hard to be as big as the other big companies. Like, "think and do like the big guys so you can become one of them faster". Again, a huge mistake.
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Psycho Soldiers by 2029.
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>>562210668
If SamSho RPG is a hit, we might get the Last Blade 3.
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>>562325504
SamSho RPG must sell this first.
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>>562325504
keep dreaming, bro.
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>focusing on fighting games and delivering graphics that are nothing more than late PS2 games with HD filter mod
This wouldn't be too much of an issue, it's that on top of the pants-on-head retarded decisions (overpromising and underdelivering, Ronaldo, Ganacci, AI trailer, giving more love effort and respect to SF guest characters than actual legacy characters, mickey mouse ass plot shit, etc etc) that costs them respect.
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>>562257802
Pretty Big should be an actual character for AoF like really, it will be a nice addition to their saucless cast. Dunno if snk team did the oc or the chinese, but they own any variation of their characters I think.
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Crimson Desert is an example of graphics and quantity over quality sells first. New ip from a gook company that was only known for Black Desert that wasn’t favorably received, but Crimson Desert was marketed as a gorgeous good looking open world RPG where you can do everything, so people just fell for it.
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>>562328921
In theory, SNK should own all the characters that are derivative of their own, so all the themed versions, the BS and the pranks.
I would love if they used BS Nameless the next time he shows up
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>>562330631
wow, he has so much edge and yet he's totally kino! If only there were some way to combine those two adjectives.
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Andy is...
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>>562334741
Cute! CUTE!!!
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>>562337447
He's so fucking molestable it's unreal. fucking slut. acting all innocent.
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*saves snk*
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Who the hell is that
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>>562346116
LA CREATURA
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what a weird variant
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SEXO
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photorealistic akari would unironically save the company
oh we could have it all
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VICE
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>>562395462
This but Genbu no Okina
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>>562395276
What is KOF 2003? What is KOF XI?...
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>>562395276
>any SNK fighting game needs to have better graphics and presentation, not a downgrade, from the previous title, otherwise it will be a flop.
Fixed.
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>>562346116
ballerina cappuccina
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https://x.com/i/status/2040092960620945671
Now is your chance/neog/
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>>562283062
From the old footage he was just Kazuya. Even had the same combos like df2 > PEWGF and ff3 setups
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jy8tdlmSz4
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Preecha gang
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SNK WON
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>>562430206
>discord
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>stuck in cotw
>look up strategies for my character of choice
>dreamcancel wiki strategy page
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>youtube
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This game is dead. It's a shame cause it's actually pretty fun. Back to street fighter where I don't have to worry about an inconsistent systems (high/low crush) and gay players (jump back shippuken Rock)
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SNK would drop the ball if they don't give this match in a future SVC2
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>SNK influencers are charismaless dweebs, so the game is dead!
I got news for you, anon. The nu fgc is garbage. Has been since 2014. It's gone so far away from being based, that if they collectively hate and refuse to shill your non Big 3 game, it's probably good.
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Guy A
>maybe fgs aren't popular anymore, cause the quality dropped.
FGC
>'heh, nah. casuals just can't handle 1v1 like us tr00 slime zen merchants'.
>'yeah haha. they can't blame teammates when they lose. they can't adapt, bro!'.
>proceeds to call everything broken and beg for nerfs.
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>>562464251
Which character? Maybe someone can help you
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>>562373464
Old Capcom (91-1999) would NEVER put that character in a mainline SF. She debuted in shit Cap era stuff like Fighting Jam. Her reappearing now, shows us what era we're back in. She's in to appeal to American weebs and s o y jp zoomers.
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>>562210319
/ourgirl/ is streaming a chink cotw tourney, kog playing atm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX5t_TzN4Fc
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>>562509181
happy to see my wife still going stronk after nerfs
>>562509678
ngl don't ask me why, but Chen feels very snk coded to me
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>I want Rev Guard gone and Rev Blow nerfed, or vice
Yes. Vice would be good.
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>>562509181
Can you take off their girl's in Endfield like you can in GFL2? I notice that every other Endfield general OP on /vg/ is a foot pic and I am weak to pantyhose and stockings but it's a waste if you don't see them in game. City of the Wolves.
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YEAH
lolibaba IN-GRID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrKXwhHLuo
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>>562576376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x61w5mSqlic
who doesn't?
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>>562518440
Vice is my vice
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>Watching Climax
>Billy
>Billy
>Billy
>Hokutomaru
>Hokutomaru
>Hokutomaru
>Billy mirror
>Preecha
>Preecha
And the worst part is that they're winning 90% of the time. SNK players are the most soulless, character/top-tier abusing beings on the planet. Actually does not matter how many times SNK "balances" their games. The players still just gravitate towards whoever are the new top 4/5 characters, who're the most braindead and gorilla to play. And it's not like majority of the cast in COTW now are way behind the Top ones like it was before for almost a year. But that doesn't matter, because why would anyone bother playing Mai, Chun-Li, or whoever else, when you can just play or keep playing Hokutomaru with his faggot-ass teleport, annoying-ass Shurikens, and health-raping baby-combos. I would say the 1 Million Dollar prize-money is probably exacerbating it, but it was the same for KOF 15 even without the 1 Million Dollar incentive. So really it's just that SNK players are naturally soulless humans. Maybe if SNK just designed better gameplay-systems, this wouldn't keep happening.
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I wasn't going to say so since I didn't want to get racial nor nationalist, but like 95% of the time I ever see someone use any character other than whoever are top 5 on a tier-list in COTW, they aren't Mexican nor Chinese. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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>For one, you're lying
I'm literally watching it right now as it's happening. The match that just finished just before I started typing this was another Billy mirror-match.
>Second, why are you getting mad at people for using character that aren't even the best in the game.
Hokutomaru was like number 2 in the game before the Season 2 update, and is now the definitive number 1 with all his bullshit still very intact. Billy was buffed back to being a nuisance.
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>>562582013
Copy your post and send here >>562430206
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>>562582013
>SNK players are the most soulless, character/top-tier abusing beings on the planet.
Internet has bred people into playing 1 way. Then add on
>patches that don't let a game settle.
>devs rushing games.
>modern devs pandering to rushdown and dumbdown; resulting in shallow meta
>eceleb obsessed, scrub majority perpetuating this.
>tribal fanboys demanding safe picks for rosters; shotos galore, no midgets and giants, no charge chars, no zoning, no strong grapplers
It's a ton of things at once,
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>>562585270
SNK only players suck. They just happen to be Latino or Chinese by way of MVS history. By making rushdown KOFs for decades, that's the only kind of player they have now. Always remember when they got bodied by outsiders in the only non rush game SNK made on the last 10 years.
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like they have characters who can play outside of rushdown like athena and whip, but they're seldomly successful at high level because the mechanics are more encouraging you to be hibbidy hobbidy or inside in general because even as annoying as athena can be spamming saiko boooru and tell a poor, the bigger damage is going to be done closer, and characters who can't get around someone like king to beat her up aren't the characters who'll succeed at highest level anyway
so you get funneled into choosing the definitive best characters rather than choosing a character based on your opponent's to counterpick, just choose the top 3 and they'll demolish anything your opponent chooses anyway unless it's a mirror match
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>>562622516
More like Geitenkun
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>>562606125
No need to lie.
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Happy Easter my beautiful bird brethren!
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Happy Eastern Birb bro
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>>562670306
It's kind of bizarre how bad CotW's Supers are. Maybe they tried to take the meme of "Fatal Fury is interesting because its low stakes" too far or something, because most of the Hidden Gears don't even feel like Supers
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a lot of xiv supers ARE better than xv's, like shunei's wtf is that ending on the xv version, it is the most anticlimatic thing
lmao
and cotw supers generally suck, what kind of team do they have that don't understand impact of visuals and sound in synthesis, even watching basic shounen anime should give you good ideas on how to do that shit ffs smdh amateurs who developed petz games
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which one
i get called sylvie schizo a lot
and i am always here
shitting on snk 24/7 like a 7-11 with hot bars of razzes on snk
but in some states you cannot purchase alcohol to get sloshed past certain times and on certain d
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>>562666274
its a shit fucking model like most of the models in that trash game
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>>562692749
Exactly what part about the model is shitty? It does look like Ryan, and while I think the comic aesthetic is overplayed now, it is done well.
The only characters that I can think have shit models are Preecha and Vox, and that is because of their design sucks and not the models themselves
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Blind, delusional or both?>>562692749
it doesn't look like him in the slightest.
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kek nice production
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>Backstage Frustration Mounts Over TKO's Celebrity WWE Pushes Before WrestleMania 42
hmmm what a familiar sounding scenario
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Now Capcom will be, at least, 20% saudi, what will be the next excuse for not playing SNK?
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More fool you for believing the excuses. For 2 decades, these ppl pretended SFIII and 'gao-row' were their favorite games, but never played them. They blamed rollback. Then the games were re released with rollback. They still didn't play them. The FGC is INFESTED with posers. Before, they were a minority. Now they outnumber the real fans. Hence fgs going in that unga bunga direction. Hence if you mention any single thing that was better in older fgs, they start getting angry and saying boomer boomer boomer oldhead with zero counter points. kek.
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>>562744802
even if they had no scapegoat to be that way, they would just find another reason to give you to not play, replacing that with any other variable wouldn't change the fact that they have no interest in playing snk games
it's just more u substitution to reintegrate
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>>562692749
SNK should start giving some of the huwhite characters tans again. Differentiates them from each other. Instead now they give every huwhite character an iron deficiency. Only time nu SNK fixed skin tones was graphics update Terry in XIV. They gave him his tan back. And Ralf in XV, where they got rid of his Indian XIV model.
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>>562746138
this, so when black people ask where da black characters at, wipipo and sudacas can pretend someone like k dash is black and then the black pipo will ignore them and go back to sf6 where actual black characters are so snk fans can whine about capcomspiracy targeting snk for sabotage
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>>562745615
They have no interest in Capcom games, either. Never seen even 2000 players for the so called GOAT Third Strike. They don't even like Street Fighter 6. All they care about is feeling they belong to a community. And for streamers, early access, views, and money. How many of those sucking off SFV still play it. Exactly.
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>>562754820
>All they care about is feeling they belong to a community
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it is rich tho to act like you're comfortable with how you only have what you need, which is your locals and friends and family plan(tm) but then still continue to gripe and bitch about the fanbase for other games that are larger
sour grapes aren't just an orbiter around neptune
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I never believed the excuses but I agree with
>The FGC is INFESTED with posers
They all larp as the "hardcore player" and never they touched guilty gear until they made it a child's game and no one seems to like the ooze and baby first execution but everyone is playing SF6.
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have you guys tried attacking their reasoning with "facts and logic", i heard that works wonders over the internet
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>>562804526
>UUUOOOOOOHHHHHH
is he one of us?
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>>562804526
>UUUOOOOOOHHHHHH
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I really shouldn't jerk off again but...
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>Cap vs Snk 3 even more close to happens
Kyobros... just wait a little more...
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>>562828195
>Chaos 2
(Raughs) No.
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>>562836135
Neither I see Mai nor Kevin. And they are good on paper.
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>>562886051
Strive still has the wall, ass air dashes, and incredibly gutted characters plus awful balance going on five years.
All COTW has is a mildly annoying mechanic in rev blow, which they just need to remove the armor points from.
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>>562884674
BASED.
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>>562887340
Game's fucking based. Annoying, because it could be a classic, but right now, it's just very good. It's better than every current game. Better gameplay than a lot of other SNK fighters people praise, including FF3, Real Bout, blah blah.
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>>562804526
Miss when fighting game voices were weirder and more autistic. Only ones left in any fg are Mai and Athena. PSYCHO BURRLU PSYCHO BURLLU TELEPUERT-OH. Listen to Ryu in SF2, his Hadouken sounds like he's singing. Today, he just grunts it. No tone. No soul.
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>>562886051
>after Strive fixes it's gameplay
To be fair, V2 didn't promise real gameplay fixes. Strive is gonna remain Strive and once S5 is done they'll just be all in on Tokon. Tokon will be the game that eliminates the rest of SNK's relevance, though. Avatar is a little too innately kusoge to be relevant
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>>562906610
because once upon a time an idiot on twitter said that snk should learn unreal engine and it was that simple of a fix to their visual issues when people like me insisted that there were more fundamental issues at hand
instead of working on their fundies they skipped the tutorial stage and jumped into labbing combos, ie they just went straight to learning ue and plugging that into their project and figuring that it would magically do the rest
little did they know that just because you're using ue, it doesn't make the things you create look less like shit
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>>562886491
>*teleports behind you*
>"Nothing personal, anon..."
>*makes your pants fall down with a single cut*
>*rapes you*
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This is a maninside
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>>562906610
I have the impression that SNK simply fired almost everyone who worked on the previous game and then hired new people for the next project. Let's say 60-80% of the Samsho 2019 team simply disappeared, ok. This would explain the drop in quality in areas that shouldn't happen (such as FX effects) from one title to the next.
The team and director (not Oda) behind Samsho 2019 did an excellent job. The game has aged well and is still good to watch today. There's no way to go from Samsho to "Fanta effects" to City of Play2 with the same team, director, and a much larger budget now.
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Rock and Krauser ending leaked
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Balance so good, it'll make you slap your mama.
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>>562924051
Literally Hibiki super, minus the "Nothing personal, anon..." part.
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OK, but what if SNK revived Twinkle Star Sprites but as a new IP? The bullet hell craze has fallen off years ago.
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>Are any of the matches hype
Most are. :)
https://x.com/i/status/2039312723981259131
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>https://x.com/i/status/2039312723981259131
NOICE
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>>562962045
Wh-who does she rape?
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>>562966630
kaeda
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Poor kaeda gets raped wherever he goes. it's quite sad.
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I wish all disc-release TSS game enjoyers a good day
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>>562970236
>"SNK! Make a hit!"
>"Okay, here! (PS2 fighting game)"
>"I SAID HIT, NOT SHIT!"
>"Okay, here! (another PS2 fighting game)"
>Saudis:
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>>562978340
Biggest plot twist since you could rip her top off in aof1.
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>>562962515
*AHEM*
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SNK Heroines 2 with sluttier costumes, competitively viable ,more rule63 and maybe more crossovers like Kasumi from DoA and Morrigan from Darkstalkers. Will it sell?
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Get on the stage, Athena. Or Momoko will have to do it again.
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>>562992707
We probably won't get a new KOF till 2030 at least, you'll be playing CotW, new SamSho, AoF4 and maybe CvS3 while you're waiting.
Most people would rather play SF, Tekken, Strive and whatever FGC e-celebs shill them. Frauds like Max Dood and Sajam have already damaged SNK's image with "muh evil Saudis" rhetorics and being associated with them now would hurt their brand with their zoomer audience.
Let's say SNK somehow makes all these upcoming games into masterpieces, it doesn't matter, nobody will want to play or be associated with them now, until they eventually fade into irrelevancy again and close their doors for good. After that will get those shitty retrospective vidoes like: "SNK, what happened?" "How SNK fell from grace" "The life and death of SNK" yadda yadda, with the most common (and blatantly false) response being that "MBS raped SNK to death :((("
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It's not like I want them to back to yearly releases but the modern fighting game DLC seasonal releases really bug me.
>After that will get those shitty retrospective vidoes like: "SNK, what happened?" "How SNK fell from grace" "The life and death of SNK" yadda yadda, with the most common (and blatantly false) response being that "MBS raped SNK to death :((("
Oh yes. I can see it now. "GAME EVERYONE SHIT ON AT THE TIME IS ACTUALLY A HIDDEN GEM!"
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Funny how queers boycott SNK when King existed before they were even born.
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Honestly I'd be happy with just more characters. For a game called SNK heroines there weren't really a whole lot of SNK heroines.
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not really a lot of anything, especially for a 50 dollar game
i've seen 30 dollar games have more shit than snk heroines did
a non(primarily) fanservice type game like soul calibur vi had more customization options than snk heroines, which should have been part of the point of customization and playing dress up with characters, but nooOOOoooooooo they didn't know how to do that
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>>563020679
You'd think they'd at least copy over the rest of the KOF14 ladies. But no Metal Slug fighter. No Last Blade shout out. That select screen is sad to look at. But of course we need to make sure we waste spots on fucking GUEST CHARACTERS.
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>You'd think they'd at least copy over the rest of the KOF14 ladies.
well yeah, i p much asked that like right around release time, even asked, wtf is this a 50 dollar game for, it should be like no more than 20 at launch
and furthermore, if anyone has that screencap of them saying on some stream how they made muimui "thicc", lol
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If even a single Senran Kagura character was in that game, it would have sold better
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I don't remember if Mui Mui looks like she's supposed to in that game, because I didn't buy it because it was a game that was skimpier on content and fighting mechanics than on the girls' outfits, but I do know that Mui Mui's ass is huge and I've spent a few gallons on her before
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>I don't remember if Mui Mui looks like she's supposed to in that game
it's just funny that they made a comment about how they gave her thicker thighs in the game which nobody else would have even thought was thicc, it just looked average sized, especially when up against xv shermie and iroha
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>>563062885
You know DNF Duel? Well, Berserker has a story
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>>563069749
Think about it... if nobody cared about this game, what would be the chances of Samsho RPG if SNK delivers graphics inferior to this one?
It's over...
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Is it? I feel like despite being MASSIVE with Chinese people DNF is still pretty niche internationally. Not that Samurai Showdown is a household name or anything but if we've learned anything over the past couple console generations it's that samurai games have wider appeal.
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Funny how this image is almost canon now. All we need is Reimu in COTW.
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>>563097504
Are you wa okay!?
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Meiling!
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you are now remember how old you are
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>>563101348
Nah Reimu is boring
Keine has a "orochi version"
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>>563097504
>All we need is Reimu in COTW.
Yes. This one.
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>Touhou talk in my lovable /neog/
Nice. Umamusume next?
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Now that I think about it, Reimu would fit pretty well into COTW. She'd have zoning tools like Hakurei Amulet, Youkai Buster, Persuation Needle, Yin-Yang Orb and so on, and also some good tools to keep the pressure going like Ascension Kick and Dimensional Rift. Supers are obviously Fantasy Seal and Evil-Sealing Circle. Hidden Gear is a cinematic Fantasy Heaven.
I can imagine she would probably be bad into Billy, good into Tizoc, skill match-up vs B. Jenet and so on.
Someone give ZUN's phone number to SNK, he used to play their games in arcades.
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>Someone give ZUN's phone number to SNK, he used to play their games in arcades
Touhou 9 is basically twinkle star sprites.
He'd probably be okay with it but Oda would rather put more real life people and 80s anime characters.
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Not only this, I since long exposed that ZUN’s artstyle is taken from an old SamSho art of Rimururu. Nobody ever talked about it, it’s a /neog/ exclusive.
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Thoughts on the Slash/Bust system (AKA Asura/Rasetsu) in SamSho? Would you like to see it again?
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>>562992707
To be honest I really liked 15.
I wish we got a last hurrah "make 15 into a dream match game" season or whatever the fuck and just ported all remaining 14 characters into xv.
I know it's filled with weirdos but I still think they deserve another shot at life. Xanadu deserves it (there is no good Xanadu fanart so here's Zarina)
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You just know that if it is a SanK led game players are going to complain about shit that doesn't really matter and not play cvs3(or svc2)
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>>563137546
I liked Mian. It's a shame so many of them got dropped so fast. It would have been interesting to see where they could have gone with some of those plot threads. I'm glad Chizuru was brought back but a good chunk of the roster feels like it was a bit safe.
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Miam was fun.
I think scrapping the entirety of team South America was fucked up.
Like c'mon maybe they needed a bit more rounding up on their moveset design (Bandeiras is pretty bland for a ninja) but not bringing like Nelson or Zarina feels weird
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>>563138207
She's a very attractive feet coded maybe evil girl who shows her butt.
I feel like that's an easy hit
The Yamazaki function was also in demand
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>>563131680
no reason to have that, but having ex versions of characters would be a nice simple way to pad the roster without making too many new resources, why they haven't done so is beyond me
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luong is the least surprising one to me, she was also more played than the other newbies in tourneys
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>>563138602
>why they haven't done so is beyond me
Why do that when you can sell it as DLC.
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>luong is the least surprising one to me,
I'd have expected more out of Zarina and at least hoped Mian would stick around for plot reasons. Even Sylvie had to be added later.
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>Why do that when you can sell it as DLC.
that really would be like modern snk
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>>563141478
That's the entire industry. Honestly when KOFIV came out with 50 characters out the gate and no DLC it was a complete change from the norm. It was a developer actually doing something right. And you remember what happened? ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARDS BROKEN BY YEARS OF THIS SHIT ACTUALLY DEMANDED DLC! If not for these brain dead cucks who knows how XV could have gone.
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it's not wrong to want more on top of a full plate
the problem is when they decided they could cut the plate in half and serve that for full price, partially recycling it from someone else's unfinished plate that they just left, and then selling the rest of that plate later, partially from other customers' unfinished plates
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I get too invested into dumb shit sometimes. I stumble into one of those "actually nobody cares about Kyo ever everyone always had Terry on their mind while thinking about SNK" posts in random social media and I get heated trying to defend Kyo
I don't even really care for Kyo. I basically never maimed hm or the other protagonists. I just feel like I'm seeing tourists trying to rewrite history
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>I just feel like I'm seeing tourists trying to rewrite history
you are just realizing that happens? we even have stupid wikis where people try to do just that
here's my theory about snk sucking, and it's filled with a bunch of dispassionate staff who are mostly only there because a more popular company didn't want to hire them because they don't have much under their belt, and it's like wahhh, nintendo won't hire me because i don't have a padded resume
but the thing is, if you underperform even at snk, and you can't help make snk shine really great, you try to apply at nintendo now, nintendo is just gonna look at all that and wonder what good you're gonna do here, they already have people that can do better than you in everything, so what can you really bring to the table? absolutely nothing
you can get by on mediocrity at snk because that's all they can seem to hire
but a bigger company wants someone better or more useful than that, and if they see you have an attitude that you don't want to put in full effort if you don't appreciate where you work, in a privileged field mind you unlike cleaning up sewage spills or picking up trash, then don't even consider applying to nintendo or capcom, and that's a real message to current snk employees who just wanna sit there and twiddle their thumbs waiting for a chance to escape to a more reputable company
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Right, it's not like I didn't enjoy the extra stuff to XIV. But it was treated like an actual expansion pack, remember those? They made the game full, people took to it and wanted more so they gave them what they wanted. That's the right way to go about it. But now we're in a point were DLC has to be queued up and ready to go year one or even by the time the game itself launches. And people are okay with it.
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>>563142342
>actually nobody
The problem here is that the NOBODY in question is often just a very vocal and very current minority. The internet has made it very easy for niche opinions to look mainstream. There's really not a clear way to get the average players opinion because if the average player is content they're also quiet. Nobody is going to bitch if things are going well. So the player base that likes or doesn't mind something gets shouted down because some autists have a hate boner. Even things like character popularity polls are pretty useless because only a small portion of the audience cares to or even knows to vote. In any case, I can't say I was ever a Kyo fan but he didn't get multiple manga and spinoff games because people weren't digging him.
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>>563157312
Kaede is gay for Moriya. Ignore Yuki, she just wants to look progressive.
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>>563142342
The longer you live, the more you see this happen. And there's no way to stop it. Happens with almost everything. It's like people now saying fighting games were NEVER popular, because they currently aren't. Anyone around back in the peak knows that's horseshit, but it's slowly becoming what everyone believes.
If it can happen in just 20-30 years, think about 600 years. Makes you wonder how much of actual history is people changing canon after the fact.
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Photorealistic (skin/texture) is really the Snk end game?
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>>563097504
>Reimu in COTW.
Well, we already had Touhou in KOF so why not.
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>>563144282
>I really wonder why XV did so low.
>it didn't do anything new or fresh in the series
>it didn't look visually remarkable or outstanding
>it's yet another fighting game from the company that's really only been making fighting games for the past nearly three decades outside of porting their old games
>outside of the return of shermie, neither any new nor other character returning from an absence (ie wasn't in kofxiv) really caught anybody's attention as can be demonstrated by trailer views and other social media clout
>made a big deal out of characters that were recycled from the previous game by giving them their own trailers which was a waste of time and effort especially for a covid period
>online apparently didn't function for most people
>visuals in general looked mediocre or even bad in some places (eg visual effects)
the poor visuals and lack of draws outside of shermie really impacted it a lot in the realm of first impressions, and for anyone who bought the game, it just wasn't anything fresh, and even clayton pointed out one time that maybe it could be a good game, but he said in some fashion that it'd be more interesting for it to try something new and fail at it than play it safe by doing the same shit it always does, which is just be another kof game with standard fare kof gameplay
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>kaedE
how dare you misspell our god kaeda's name
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>>563173852
and to add to this, someone once said that having trailers for even recycled characters from xiv was their way of introducing the characters to people who'd be new to kof in general, but the game itself contradicts such a gesture by never actually properly doing expositions for those new to the series and treats it almost as if you should have already known from playing the previous games, so really, what good did these trailers do in the end
like i said before, if your characters didn't appeal to anybody in the previous game, they're not going to give a shit about them this time around simply because you slightly upgraded(?lol whip and vanessa) their visuals for a new game, as you need a hook or catch to them, and only shermie really managed that kind of attention
but they ran their momentum to the ground after shermie by doing exactly what i said they shouldn't have done
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I think that they had a clear vision of what they wanted to achieve with 14 but for 15 they put in charge someone that thought rehashing vanilla 02 was enough
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>>563184417
>was enough
this being said, in conjunction with the game's tagline "shatter all expectations", and the director expressing "most ambitious kof", lol
>file was already posted
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>>563173852
>>it didn't look visually remarkable or outstanding
It was a pretty decent improvement over how cheap 14 looked.
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14 was interesting. I just slagged its graphics just now but it felt like it had a real energy behind it. It felt more exciting. I kind of got the same feeling I got from Street Fighter 4 from it. I wouldn't call either game the best in their series but they just kind of had a big bang behind them after being quiet for so long.
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>it's not nothing
this is daringly close to ben judd saying "it's better than nothing"
arguably the fx in xiv look better
some characters look like downgrades instead of upgrades like vabotoxssa mcmonkeyarms yaoihandsmith
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and i'm saying the changes are mixed between improvements (like obviously andy and kyo), and regressions in the form of visual effects and some other characters, to the point that it probably even neutralizes all the improvements when the math is done, possibly even putting it in the negatives
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Im going to be honest, I dont see any difference between those two ngl. But even if she was thats like one character.
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>>563157312
If you count the drama CD's then yeah. Kaede saved her from Mukuro and they traveled together for a bit, he held her through the entire night when she killed someone for the first time, they had a really nice talk where he helped her get out of her depression over it namely her concerns over if she has a child in the future if it'd be alright to hold that child with bloodied hands and Kaede reassures her that she killed in self defense and that she wouldn't have even been alive to have that child if she hadn't protected herself and that he'd be happy if his mother had stained herself in blood for his sake. After that, they stayed together on a boat for a few days before he continued on his journey to find the sealing maiden and left her to Juzoh and Akari to look after. Hibiki admires and respects Kaede and seems to have some pining for him by the way she watched him the entire time the boat left and whispered how she hopes they could see each other again soon.
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>she killed in self defense
Yes. Self defense.
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The Cowboy Bebop thing is hardly subtle. I like him though. It's good to have some characters who aren't the obnoxious anime pretty boy
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>>563210654
That's warrior queen, head of the royal house and leader of all Almerac. And is really horny for Superman
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>>563207450
Unironically though.
https://voca.ro/11jpKBtuWSut
[0:00 - 0:20]
(The sound of flesh tearing and a katana repeatedly slicing. Mukuro grunts and laughs menacingly as he takes the hits.)
Mukuro: "A katana... to think a brat like this with a katana..!"
(A final, heavy slash and a splatter of blood. A heavy thud as Mukuro hits the ground but continues laughing as he crawls towards. Hibiki is heard panting heavily, terrified.)
[0:21 - 0:26]
Hibiki Takane: "NO!!! Don't come any closer! Don't get up!"
Hibiki Takane: "Why can you still... still move?!"
[0:27 - 0:34]
(Hibiki screams in a blind panic, wildly slashing Mukuro's body again and again.)
Hibiki Takane: "Ah! NO MORE! STOP! STOP IT ALREADY!! AH!! AAAAH!!!"
[0:34 - 0:42]
(Kaede comes running into the scene.)
Kaede: "He's already dead! Hey, stop! I said stop!"
(A loud metallic clang as Kaede takes Hibiki into his arms and she drops her sword. Hibiki is left gasping for air.)
[0:43 - 0:53]
(Hibiki begins to cry, her voice trembling as the shock sets in.)
Hibiki Takane: "Even though I cut him... even though I cut him so many times... despite that, he kept getting up, and laughing at me...
Hibiki Takane: Even though I begged you over and over not to get up...
[0:54 - 0:58]
(Kaede embraces her tighter and speaks in a soft, gentle, and grounding tone.)
Kaede: Calm down. That's enough... It's okay now. It's okay now.
[0:58 - 1:11]
(Hibiki catches her breath, but her realization turns to absolute horror.)
Hibiki Takane: I... I...
Kaede: "Eh?"
Hibiki Takane: I... killed... a person...
Kaede: "Hibiki-san...!"
[1:12 - End]
(Hibiki lets out a blood-curdling scream of anguish and horror.)
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>hfw she sees you charge up your kasshin seiryu
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>Number of employees:
Increase ~400 (as of December 2022)
>Subsidiaries:
SNK Entertainment
SNK Beijing
SNK H.K., Ltd.
SNK Interactive
SNK USA Corporation
>Number of games:O N E
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>>563214161
It's not just the grit the characters themselves have been flattened to vague ideas of what the characters are rather than their actual previously multi layered selves because God forbid there's a hint of internal conflict, melancholy or bad traits expressed. I'm fully confident that the current devs don't understand their characters in the slightest.
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this. i know it's a dead horse but best example is going from old gg to strive. it's some of the most jarring shit ever. it's like going from a world made of that weird edgy art on old metal band album covers to generic animu bullshit. gg was always animu and had silly shit but that was in spite of the darkness of the world it occupied and added to the overall unique feel of it. Now it just feels so damn sauceless. CoTW isn't quite as bad but the loss in soul and refusal to actually touch on the the heavier stuff in any meaningful way is so disappointing. I was expecting so much more conflict from this sequel but everything's so white-washed and all the interesting stuff like Rock's potential conflict with Kain and himself is pretty much swept under the rug. Terry and Andy especially just going standing in the back 'hey don't you do that' and being sort of chill with Kain instead of actively opposing Kain trying to take over the city their father died for is especially kind of sickening to me.
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I think Street Fighter is a pretty notable example too. It's like they're doing nothing but ride their own nostalgia. Everything is so busy trying to reference something else it doesn't seem like we've had anything new that will be referenced in the future. We're so bound by nostalgia there's never going to be any, for want of a term, new nostalgia.
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I remember people speculating there was going to be a huge conflict. Rock's potential fall to evil was a huge plot hook in the first game and then it just... wasn't. It's not like I would ever expect them to kill of characters or anything but it's still all just so confrontation adverse. Things just exist to let brand coast. To be a vehicle for crossover bunk. Even the last few KOF plots kind of just feel like white noise and actually back peddled a lot of the stuff that did happen in previous games. Say what you want about the Ash saga they at least let him stay gone till recently. I'm honestly pretty miffed they brought back CYS. It's not like you have to justify a fighting game roster.
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It's weird in SF's case because they have so much shit they actually went out of their way to set up and then...just actively did pretty much fuck all with it. They've been harping on this big event supposedly coming since SF4 with Rose and they keep going oh oh it's totally coming it's gonna happen the big day of disaster and then nothing. It's such a cocktease. As much as I shit on Tekken's story as a whole at least for a bit there it seemed they actually were pushing the main plot forward even if it was extremely clumsy. I respected the attempt if nothing else.
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>things just exist to let brand coast. To be a vehicle for crossover bunk
I try not to be so cynical about it or maybe I was just in denial but yeah that seems to be the case. Everything's trying to be fortnite nowadays. Trading away identity and soul to be some endless marketable crossover product instead of just focusing on being a satisfying, memorable game made with passion. CYS coming back could have been cool but they were just sort of there. No real point to their inclusion at all. They honestly could have been left out of the game and nothing would have changed.
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>Rock's potential fall to evil was a huge plot hook in the first game and then it just... wasn't. It's not like I would ever expect them to kill of characters or anything but it's still all just so confrontation adverse.
FUCKING THIS. I hate it because there's legitimately some really good character moments in there but it's surrounded by so much pre-chewed, spineless slop.
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>CYS coming back could have been cool but they were just sort of there
It's not that I'm absolutely against it, but at the very least I was expecting them to be treated like a bigger deal. They teased Orochi in 14 but it was more like an easter egg than a potential plot. And it's not like this an exclusive problem to 15 because we still got the big ol dropped plot line from the playmore days.
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The people now in change of these 30 year old IPs, like kof, ff, ss, sf, have no attachment to them. They're simply controlling other people's creations, with no personal or emotional stakes in them being liked or how they're presented. When you understand that, it starts making sense. It happens in tv and movies, too. A writer will get an established IP, and wanna add all his or her retconning and watering down crap, so they feel they had an input. If something had edge, they gotta make it sappy. If something was complex, they gotta dumb it down. Bad thing about this? It never goes the other way anymore.
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One of the major problems with fighting games now is they're GAAS. They're expected to last for 6+ years with constant DLC. That long term expense has affected how people buy them. They only wanna buy one or two, and stick to those two for 6-10 years, spending 100s of dollars. That has made making multiple fighting games in succession a huge risk, cause there's a lesser chance people will try something new, cause they're locked in to 7 years $300 DLC somewhere else. They can't afford it.
This creates a problem for fighting game only devs. SNK better start making games in other genres, quick.
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It doesn't help matters that the competitive scene basically got a stranglehold on the entire genre. So now every game needs to be made with EVO in mind and all end up losing out to the big money games.
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Okay I understand what you are all talking about but killing fighting game characters has always been a bad idea.
The problem story with Mortal Kombat is precisely because the core conceit of that game is killing characters and so because you end up killing the characters people like to create some sort of semblance of stakes you end up having to reboot this shit multiple times until its multiple timelines slop.
Characters should have never been killing each other in King of Fighters
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>>563239480
>Characters should have never been killing each other in King of Fighters
It's not like it was Shingo going around mercing people. The amount of canon deaths is still largely reserved to bosses with CYS and maybe Vice and Mature being exceptions. And maybe this is just my own fan bias for characters I want back but with how bloated the KOF universe is character wise there's plenty of living characters who haven't seen a game in years. In any case it isn't really death people are asking for but more something with more permanence or impact.
Also, In a weird way, I think fighting games are kind of one of the few genres where you actually can get away with this sort of thing given how vague the actual story and canon for each game is. Like nobody expects every team ending to be canon and it's pretty obvious the official winner won't be one of the tertiary or joke teams. So if you really wanted to bring whomever back and just toss them on the select screen people aren't going to question it especially in versus mode.
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kay but is it worth it to like lose CYS over it? They were always brought up for dream matches because SNK realized enough that this were liked characters that were stuck in the death clause issue.
I just think quote-unquote arrested is a fine enough fate for the villains and the like of most fighting games.
Why pretend Bison is going to die for example. Just make him appear next with a funny prison outfit.
I think the Azusa manga more or less pulls the right tone for KoF which is just super powered people beating the shit out of each other and no one really dies in it.
Tournament manga already show basically having a winner and a loser is enough to create drama
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>>563241456
They died in the same game they were introduced. If they were gonna be crazy popular it was way too early to tell and there's a lot of value to sticking to your guns story wise especially when it's piss easy to just do a dream match every few years. For any popularity they did have they were very clearly not tent pole characters.
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> For any popularity they did have they were very clearly not tent pole characters.
I mean the only reason they were not tent pole characters is because they died.
They always rank very high on playerbility whenever they show up
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>>563226240
It's honestly insane how much he got me to actually give two shits about Shun'ei and Team South America compared to the games.
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>I dont see any difference between those two ngl
then you need a closer look so lmh
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Remember like 8 months ago when SNK nuked numerous channels that had their games' music with millions of views? The biggest one being Myth that had Fatal Fury, KOF, AOF, Samsho, and much more SNK music with the OSTs and ASTs. Had basically every Arranged KOF soundtrack from 94 to 11 with millions of views. The worst part is that they didn't even nuke every channel/video with their music. Only the ones with tons of views. Which means they purposely only bothered with the ones that were basically advertisement for them like low-IQ mongrels. Not to mention that they don't provide the Arranged versions of soundtracks themselves.
That was sure great of them to nuke shit that gave them tons of exposure(which they could REALLY use) and visibility, because these guys think they're fucking Nintendo or something, and are in any position to be doing shit like that. Tons of people were introduced to SNK's music and SNK in-general from said videos. Especially Arashi no Saxophone 2 which was a big one that was almost 10 million before the purge. God this company is so fucking retarded. Just no sentient-being has ever graced its walls since 2016. Honestly a little happy that COTW was a giant dud, just for them doing that shit. Hope it humbled them real good, and made them stop acting like they're still some prestigious company that anyone gives a fuck about in modern day except a few 40+ year old, mostly Mexican boomers. Though I'm sure it didn't, since these Aliens seemingly never learn anything.
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>>563243436
Yeah, I was completely on board too. A protagonist having his big cathartic moment be realizing he's NOT special is a nice change of pace compared to what we usually get. Shun's a good kid.
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>>563255710
It sort of feels like some of it carried over.
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I don’t understand how people can accept guest characters but not the concept of a dead character staying dead canonically but also playable. Does Negen make sense in Tekken’s world? No but they accepted it, and still revived heihachi to make him playable for Tekken 8.
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What you described has happened to nearly every Japanese franchise, even shit like One Piece. Those young Japanese who wrote dark stories are now old geezers who lost their edge and just want to spend time with their wives leisurely drinking afternoon tea. Daisuke changed GG towards mass appeal because he wants to retires and wants to leave a successful project behind, there’s no longer that soul attachment to his creation that’s mainly driven by the desire to compete with your peers and prove that you’re the best. The older you get the more you say yeah it’s not worth it I want to take a nap.
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My point isn’t Negem, but the conceot of guest characters, ok take terry and mai in sf6 or lucy in strive instead. Just treat the dead characters as guests too why not?
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>>563268640
It didn't used to be their franchise. Although when it was, they did good with the PS2 game too
it'd be nice to see TSS again, but we obviously won't, because little girls and pedo catmen are haram or something
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>Gen X to retire and Boomers
SNK's terrible graphics modelers are zoomers, though. None of the games do as worse or the game if the graphics and animation are AAA. Stop bringing your personal boomer grievance into shit. Not healthy.
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>>563239957
Yes. For a game created from zero. And after creating one, you can reuse assets and animations to make others in less time. SNK needs to find his own "RE" and explore the possibilities.
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>SNK's terrible graphics modelers are zoomers, though
As someone who has actually played a recent (I almost typed "modern", my bad) SNK game, graphics doesn't come close to these games' biggest problems
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It's so comical when SNK says "the future is now," but they definitely don't act that way. Constantly changing directors/teams, hiring and then firing and hiring someone else again, creating plots only to abandon them in the next game, focusing on only one type of game... it's the complete opposite of "the future is now". And the worst part is, even focusing on just one genre, they can't maintain consistency and evolve. They should be a reference in fighting games today, not a laughingstock. The graphics are dated. Matchmaking problems. You notice a downgrade on things where it shouldn't exist between the games. Hell, not even the person who made the trailers for Samsho and Kofxv are the same person. It's makes no sense. It's pure insanity to think that a company with this mentality will become AAA one day. That's not an opinion, it's a fact.
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I think you glossed over the "or something" bit where it's a little easier to assume that I couldn't possibly give a shit who thinks what or who swallowed which bluepill.
What matters is that some bullshit stops us from seeing anything like TSS any time soon and we have no power to fix that
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>A player decides to play a character that isn't the same Top 5 of whoever's the strongest
>Is absolutely destroyed
Every time. What a boring, dogshit game. Immensely favors rushdown, unga-gorilla type gameplay. The people that pretended COTW wasn't an aggressively offensive game like every other modern Fighting Game that heavily favors rushdown characters should be shunned. Really, this game has no other archetype. Even characters who you'd think would be more of zoners like Billy and Kain rapes and overwhelms you up-close. SF6 has more variety in character-types. JP is more unique than every character in KOF 15 and COTW. If a character like JP were in COTW, he would be dogshit since nothing that isn't gorilla-slop can succeed in this game.
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>>563310857
You're making it sound like character archtype variation was something that SNK excels at but failed to do recently.
Being able to switch these similar characters easily was always a hallmark of their games -- especially for Garou.
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>>563274360
Ask and you shall receive. Might as well post the whole scene while I'm here so here's the first part.
https://voca.ro/1fBFmW6UMpLn
Kaede: You really do come here every day, don't you.
Hibiki: From here... you can see the whole town and the ocean.
Kaede: I see.
Kaede: Ah... hey...um.... I understand a bit about how you feel. I carry a sword too, so... I understand.
Kaede: But, what you did wasn't murder.
Hibiki: Eh?
Kaede: At least, that's what I think.
Kaede: With your own hands, you protected yourself. That's why you shouldn't...
Hibiki: You're wrong.
Hibiki: I killed a person for the first time. I was slashing blindly. Until you stopped me, I didn't even realize what I was doing...
Hibiki: 'Protected myself'? That's just an excuse! I...
Kaede: Hibiki-san...
Hibiki: If I ever have a child... with these hands... For these blood-stained hands, to hold a baby...
Kaede: That's not true!
Hibiki: What is!? How is it not true!? For the mother of a child to be a murderer... If they knew that, that child would...!
Kaede: I'm saying that's what's wrong!!
Kaede: If you had been killed right then and there... that child wouldn't even be born.
Kaede: I... if it were me... I would surely be proud of a mother who stained her hands with blood for my sake.
Hibiki: I'm sorry. Could you leave me alone... for just a little longer?
Kaede: Yeah. Um... make sure to come down by dinner. ...See ya.
Hibiki: You're strong... Kaede-san. If I... if I were strong like you...
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either. They dropped this >>562210668 on April Fool's Day. They're complete idiots.
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>>563310857
Lacid's Tizoc is ass. You don't play, shut your dumbass up.
https://x.com/i/status/2034976882840457226
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>>563338872
Fuck tekken
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>>563310857
You're correct, but only at the higher levels, due to SNK's lazy game tuning. They don't even do the basics, like different health points for different characters. Last game they patched that into was kof 14 (?), I think. They didn't give characters distinct enough jump arcs, dashes, or any of that. Crazy when you think about it. That stuff should be *standard* in a 2D fighter. That's not even getting into projectile pushback and throws. They make very simple meta in their games, then wonder why even dedicated people get bored.
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And they've always been mid tier. They need to step their games up and blow everyone else out of the water. They need to go next level. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Hardcore will play no matter what, and it'd add extra depth and variety to the game.
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don't knock it, feiyen is a robobabe, like the girls of metal & lace
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>You don't play
neither does most of the video game playing world lol
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>>563364108
>and they didn't feel much obligation towards foreign fans
and now they bend the knee to westoids with adjusting hotaru's super among other things
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>>563364383
Was anybody (and by anybody, I mean real people and not anonymous users) even complaining about it being the way it used to be? All I saw when I heard the news was
>NO CUM NO BUY
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>Oh I guess they changed it, whatever
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most people didn't notice because most people didn't care about either game, it was a nerd venture and you should already know how nerds are, especially when battling social justice worrier (((progressive))) types on the internet
but it does point to a possible slippery slope, the gesture of doing such, and snk marks justifying it, one that leads to a path where snk marks will be justifying that which they used to shit on capcom for, and why i call them flipflops to this day, just like john kerry
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>>563368812
lol that's funny because i hadn't started saying anything about you in any matter despite our back and forth, at the very least until you decided to run your mouth about how you think i am
remember, you asked for this
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>>563368702
We called you a retard because instead of actually just fucking off and moving on from a company you supposedly call lazy and uninteresting, you remain here to shit up the conversation despite how many times you've been told to fuck off. Now that CotW has fully shown SNK is genuinely incapable of improving, it's a complete wasteland in here compared to how it was 3 years ago and yet you're still here. With the main difference being the fact you can't even shit on SNK as much as literally everybody else for as much of a failure CotW was compared to any of their prior output. People really only come here to shit on SNK and nothing else because their current output is just CotW DLC and their old output is wasted potential and lacks the depth that people boast it used to have (otherwise people would be playing it right now)
This mf had you pinned in a single post >>563368519 so either he's someone that's also that's been here for years larping as a newbie, or someone who came to this dead ass thread to talk SNK and only found your dumbass instead
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>>563369256
It wouldn't be if mods actually did their fucking jobs and banned avatarposters and people who cry for attention like you, but instead they get mad about being pinged to do their fucking job apparently so instead of getting rid of your ass, it got rid of the rest of the thread since there's fucking nothing else to talk about with SNK anymore
I check in here hoping for literally any datamine news or fucking anything and still get the same cycle shit of "remember old thing good?" or "this game sucks" so I hardly even talk in here either because unlike you, when I'm thoroughly uninterested in something I have little reason to stick around. Like how I'm done with this conversation. Just give me your (You) because you need the attention
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>>563109601
>he used to play their games in arcades.
I mean, it's a cool fact, but at the same time it's not surprising. SNK was huge in Japan in the first half of the 90s
I personally prefer collabs that only involve costumes and stages. Model swap are welcome too. But no more guests. I want to see Duck King andTsugumi.
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>the same cycle shit of "remember old thing good?" or "this game sucks"
Blame SNK. If the games, their management, and marketing were that good, ithey wouldn't be flops. You're right about the other stuff, though.
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I do blame SNK. It's their fault for releasing something that looks worse than KOFXV to the general populace somehow, and KOFXV wasn't really an amazing game either. It just has a good roster and decent gameplay. CotW couldn't polish the turd enough and decided it needed to be the main focus for the next 3 years despite the fact it just does not have that value
CotW simply should not have been a competitive fighter, but they couldn't even bother to tell a good story to make up for that either. They're genuinely fucked, nobody's interested in, "things MIGHT get interesting later" anymore. They've already done that to death
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>tfw every time you load up CoTW and you have to look at Ronaldo and Salvatore in the line up and it makes you remember every retarded decision SNK made for this game you waited more than 20 years for
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KOFXII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k86TMkKBjtQ?t=1144
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I like the combo system in KOF12. It's simple, short, and fun. I think it's better than the current combos, which take 5 times longer.
And since I'm using the "Freedom of Speech" image, I'll take the opportunity to say that Athena is cute and I want to marry her.
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Guys, what if SNK focuses on sex games?
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>Kenshiro when told to play nice with Kain
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The devs basically stated in an interview that they wanted a game with shorter combos with 12 since they noticed fighting games at the time were doing the opposite. Then it flopped and they went all in with long combo games ever since (outside samsho).
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>>563402081
People say they don't like long combos, but when you delve deeper you see they don't mind long combos, just how they are implemented (e.g., CotW's constantly repeating motions when doing EX to EX specials).
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This is just retarded. I can see Gai appearing as a playable character in AOF, but not becoming the new face of the franchise.
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He's so coolis there any reason why his shoulder pads are different in cotw?
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>tfw we'll have GTA 6 before SNK releases a new game
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>>563440354
SNK fanbase seems full of retards like that, who can't tell the difference between what sells and their own personal favorites.
>put kof fighters in cotw!
>make [never popular character] the face of the franchise
>alfred will bring in players
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>>563347707
>this is the problem with an SNK
>SO YOU JUST WANT STREET FIGHTER
Like SNK did with CotW copying every wrong thing SF6 did, you mean. How about you ask SNK if they just want Street Fighter? Looks like they already copied the worst parts of it and you seem happy they did. They even did it with KoF XV, copying SFV by dumbing down inputs. And with MotW by getting rid of the lanes. Lemme guess. If someone likes MotW "all they want is SF". Shut the fuck up lol
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>>563347580
Tekken wasn't more popular than Virtua Fighter until Tekken 2 came out on PS1 (1996). By then, VF3 was coming out in the arcade and Saturn was pretty much dead.
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Not arguing that.
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Visa/Mastercard purged Itch.io's libraries of porn games...
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>>563454418
Season 3 guests, Season 2 is obviously Kyouka Uzen.
t. It came to me in a dream
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>>563466026
Don't forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATMJ7rUW6R0
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>>563347707
this is exactly what i'm talking about
it wasn't even me posting stuff and you try to reframe what he said as "i just want street fighter"
and i'm supposed to take anyone calling me names here seriously when this is a constant thing, like the guy who "pinned" me lol
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>>563469753
>That stuff should be *standard* in a 2D fighter
>Literally advocating to make SNK fighters closer to Street Fighter as if they don't dicksuck them enough already
Retard(s).
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>>563451036
SNK will likely play it safe and re-use the old cast, but only the most popular ones. Maybe a younger versions of a few Fatal Fury characters if this is still a prequel and a celebrity nobody asked for forced in by the Saudi crown prince.
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>>563447385
Just checked the new anime and...
...It's CGI...
Bravo! Nobody's going to watch this shit. and that means the anime won't have any effect on the DLC (if that was Oda's plan from the start).
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They look like they have some fucking testosterone there. In-game Rock looks like a twink. Doesn't help he does that gay catwork pose at the end of his Hidden Gear. Don't know what they were thinking with that one.
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>>563556701
Rock's always been a twink. If anything he's way more buff than he's supposed to be in COTW
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>>563551665
I can't go that far, but I remember it being fun on the PS2.
It's not really talked about much here or anywhere else. It's moderately popular in YouTube video essays, though. It's a good hook with its impressive graphics and dream roster.
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>>562210319
I reallly like KoF 11 I think it’s my fave snk game. The character select looks cool, the stages are cool and the in and out tagging is great and it has the best outfits for the roster imo.
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>>563564986
It's the game that has the most identity to itself. Most of the popular KOFs are just generic SNK rosters with some characters switched around depending on the era, but KOFXI wanted to tell a story with its roster and went for the most unique and important characters solely to it and there's a few here that still haven't been in games since because they aren't "popular" or "necessary"
Also when this game cut Mai nobody complained
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>>563574073
ahahahaha lmao
you deserve me
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>>563310857
This. Literally 98% of the characters in this game play the exact same. The mechanics are built entirely around this type of unga-gameplay. Any character not fitting into the rushdown gameplay this game funnels you into is automatically ass. Ronaldo is the only unique character in the game that's not entirely ass, and that's only because he can rushdown a bit too.
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>>563564986
agreed with pretty much all of this. it also gave me my favorite kensou design too.
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>>563577309
This is wrongly being framed as a detraction for the game instead of a positive strength
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>>563584358
>This is wrongly being framed as a detraction for the game
this, the main detraction is the game itself as most people don't even make it to trying out the game to find out how it plays, let alone the meta for it, since most people just dgaf about it
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>>563551665
As entertaining as it is, I just can't get over the fact the UI and roster makes it look like a Mugen game
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>>563567409
I'm not fully convinced by the roster but the multiple sub bosses was a great idea
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>>563596453
I don't know if it will age well, but it will certainly have a good reputation as "that great game that went unnoticed."
It's clearly a demanding and tough outliner in the old-school style, a welcome change from modern games that simplify everything and aren't challenging.
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>"that great game that went unnoticed."
I don't intend to be rude but it's more likely going to be remembered as "that game with Ronaldo and that DJ in it" and only mentioned in youtube videos titled "TOP 10 WEIRDEST VIDEO GAME GUEST CHARACTERS!"
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>>563564986
I like it a lot too. I really wish they'd do an updated online version. I have a lot of good memories with this one. It came out at a time were I was really able to get into fighting games.
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She's retarded
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>>563614607
Oh, boy. This is from Kof14 threads, right? Things were less schizophrenic back then.
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>>563619070
Those where good days.
>>563619630
As do I friend.
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SNK should release a remake of Psycho Solider, make it a side-scroll beat-em up with some RPG elements, maybe some customizable movesets like in SOR4. I'd play the shit out of that.
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>>563624185
Metroidvania's used to be really hot. Wasn't Chin's whole reason for getting them into KOF was to train for some big to do. Might be nice to finally pay out that.
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Literally me.
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>>563632019
My condolences.
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>>563632170
I don't get this ship
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Strive had 18k players when the update dropped, up from 2000. Meaning thousands were already fans but wanted new incentives to come back playing. It shows that updates and dlcs don’t matter if you don’t have a userbase to begin with which is the case with cotw that is always sitting on 200-500 players.
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>>563632895
Well I've always thought as much. The idea of SEASONAL gaming is nothing short of brainwashing in order to trick people into buying DLC. The best games that have always endured where games that were done and people just liked. I put a lot of this on the need to stay "competitive." Tournaments and the like used to be a gathering of fans. Sort of like any other convention. People go together around a thing they all enjoyed. But then money got involved and now these fan gatherings have become little more than being corporate boot lickers. Games that came out comparatively not that long ago are all but forgotten because we need to push the new thing. Super Turbo has been a fan favorite for decades but nobody would even remember SF5 came out if wasn't for basic math.
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>>563632703
Kyo was basically their shiny new male protag that was a big hit and they pushed him hard as hell, giving him shiptease or outright pairing him with other popular SNK girls wasn't uncommon. You had some art with him with yuri, mai, and even had some shiptease with him and blue mary in the drama cd's. and with athena some mangaka/artists seemed to insert into kyo and wanted to pair him with athena so you get weird stuff that one 96 manga and the kof kyo vn where kyo legit gets into an argument with kensou over athena being more attractive than Yuki, his own girlfriend mind you, and kensou has to be the one insisting Yuki is cuter than Athena among other ooc stuff. regardless some of that stuck and carried over over the years even though SNK backpedaled on some of that. nowadays though people mostly just ship them because they got good girl and bad boy appeal and some do it just to shit on kensou.
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>>563634246
I would be very interested in someone translating KOF: Kyo into English. There's a Spanish translation so I feel like it should be easy enough to translate off that, though I can't speak of the quality of Spanish translation. It seems a wholly bizarre spinoff. Be nice to see more of the mangas too.
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>>563619070
it was easier to forgive kof14 because they were just coming back into the foray
the more time and experience they get, the less forgiveness they are entitled to
whodathunk huh, like a rookie employee at work, you make a mistake your first few days at work, it's a rookie mistake and a learning experience
you keep fucking up, you're a fuckup and aren't learning at all
what a concept
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Gang gang.
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>>563632895
And all that engagement was without Strive needing to have 1 million dollar tourneys, dumbass real-life celebs no-one asked for nor wanted, lots of advertisement, etcetera. Not to mention that it's been 4+ years since Strive released, and it had an update that popular. Meanwhile the Season 2 update of COTW that was only 9 months from the game's release couldn't even get 1K players, and the good bit of players that it did get left about after a week. It can't be more stated how much better of a dev Arcsys is, and how much they've improved compared to SNK. I don't give a shit about Strive, but it would be rejecting reality to pretend that Arcsys didn't make a 100x more appealing game/product than ever SNK did. It doesn't matter what's done with COTW. The vast majority just doesn't care.
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>>563643443
it is, for fighting game players. But for the casual audience, they just want to press buttons and do cool shit while FEELING like they actually know how to play fighting games. CoTW is one of the easiest SNK games to play but it's still too much for casual audiences.
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>>563643858
>the casual audience, they just want to press buttons and do cool shit while FEELING like they actually know how to play fighting games
You're confusing casuals with scrubs again. Casuals =
>graphics, characters. and content,.
>didn't play the beta
>don't know who Max is
>don't even know what COTW is
>doesn't play SF6
>probably bought MK
>doesn't give a fuck how easy/hard inputs are
>never heard of SNK
FGC scrubs =
>probably played the beta
>knows who Max and Sajam are
>loves SF6
>knows what COTW is
>complains that casuals want simple inputs (shocker: it's actually them who want it)
>knows about the Ronaldo thing
>knows who SNK are
>mostly fans of specific franchises, instead of the genre
>hype train rider
This is why simplifying the gameplay didn't work.
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Tomboy gang bangWe were robbed
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>>563654321
Absolutely nothing and still win like he's been winning against every other guy who's wanted Mai over the past three decades.
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>IMMEDIATELY resorts to nonsensical schizocuck fanfic babble
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The threads peaked during 14 lifetime
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The threads peaked during 14 lifetime
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Their KOF book is fantastic, raw fanservice. Gotta check this out
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>>563711092
>some unknown faggots in some unknown tourney represents the real top players
Let's see what happens at the big tourneys with real stakes. You know it's true, too. No idea why you keep coping like this.
>inb4 you hate cotw!
It's my favorite fighting game fight now.
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>>563724140
Whoa! It's... It's...
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If Kasumi would show up again, would you want her in a new outfit or in her standard aikido gear?
She seems to be pretty recognisable as long as she keeps the blue-red colour scheme or wears her red headband.
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Why not both? Tekken and SF did it right. Give us their new look AND their classic costume.
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>>563753912
so then it's about showing others online that you can play those games
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>>563758416
Anon, follow the fucking link, they're selling new carts too: https://plaionreplai.com/pages/neogeo
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>999
Giving what shit goes for second hand that's not all too bad a deal sadly.
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