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>tfw I have 3 +10 Blaze Resolves that are going to be utterly worthless in 1.3

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>>562534781
Do not forget your

Daily
>Memo
>Bard's Tome (BP)
>Expeditions
>Reputation Donations (if needed to rush it)
Daily Extra
>pre-craft 12 Gold Sand and 12 Repulsive Crystals for future Sharpening Potions or Projectiles (depending what you need most)

Weekly
>5 Nocturnal Echoes
>3 Chase
>1 Mystic Maze
>3 Reputation Gauntlets for each region (currently 6 in total)

Other
>Events
>Theater clear rewards and shop letters before reset
>check for Geniemons every 3 specific days
>Fish shop
>Prism shop buy the 5 Prismatic Hourglasses every reset
>Mystic Maze shop buyout before reset

>>562535232
That's assuming the morale build is better. The weapon boosting Inspo affects all allies so it can go on a combat partner. The Inspo Morale has range requirements of all things.

>>562535687
There's no way Su Yi doesn't have some "forced" synergy with morale stuff.

I should start farming those Lumino wedges but I really dont feel like it.

>>562541305
just 10 runs as part of daily routine and you will be set for the summit in two months

i cant wait to not do summit for a third time

>>562541724
lucky you

remind me how many months until chinawank is over

>>562541969
who should we wank next?

>>562542675
vita

purgatorio probably should have been bigger

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>page 8

>>562544187
Berenica should've stayed with us

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Herogames analytics panel got hacked via keitaro_gg
Data is from 08.12.2025 to 08.03.2025
New players : 3 308 720
Total number of paying players : 342 346
All transactions : 79 414 868,04 RMB(yuan)
% of paying players : 10,35%
Average income from 1 user: 24 RMB
Total 11 533 468 USD in 3 months (no release october/november months)

>>562549224
>11 533 468 USD
I guess this should sustain the game for at least 1 year.

>>562549224
uhhh
This isn't the third hack i expected but thanks keitaro gg or impersonator(?)
Yay game alive (in china)

>>562549224
According to the Sensor Tower dude, the tracked revenue from Dec to March added up to only $1.43M total. So according to this, mobile only accounts for about 12.5% of total revenue.
Idk what the costs to keep their studio running is but that number doesn't look too bad. Seems enough to at least sustain development, even if not super profitable. Though who knows how the numbers will look like now after the incident. And the player population is still on a bit of a downtrend if they don't change things up.

Also, if the Hero Games panel got accessed, this suggests Hero Game's security in general really does suck like the first message mentioned. I wonder if it's possible that Pan devs were actually following standard practice, but relied on some of their publisher's resources which got breached. Then Pan/DNA takes the hit on their reputation since Keitaro only cared about messing with them.
Though it is their first game so it's also possibly a bit of both or entirely on Pan.

>>562553343
Sensortower only tracks IOS revenue so it's not even mobile

>>562553693
*tracks accurately
Android rankings are rarely updated so its impossible to track them

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>>562549224
>mfw in the 10% oligarchy

>>562549224
is that before or after they pay out to apple/google/steam 30%

>>562553343
>I wonder if it's possible that Pan devs were actually following standard practice, but relied on some of their publisher's resources which got breached
>Though it is their first game so it's also possibly a bit of both or entirely on Pan.
Could be many things. The fact that we have dev + publisher makes it hard to pinpoint who did the most wrong and who truly manages what.
The voices in my head tell me that the moment Pan announced a gacha game, various gacha studios tried their best to send one of their people to be part of that team. They mask everything under the guise of hacking when in reality it could be an insider doing the dirty work and giving info to Keitaro to make it look like it's from the outside.

Ironically this data sheet actually helps Pan/Hero Games dispel some of the misinformation about their revenue.

>>562550538
surely it's more than one year?
what the fuck would they blow 11 mil on in a year?

>>562560281
You underestimate companies and their ability to waste money on overly advertising instead of focusing on player retention. Because if the big guys do it, everyone else must follow suit like sheeps.

>>562562565
oh yeah
wasnt it like 500k for that 30 second ad at TGA
and everyone just made fun of us for being gacha

I hope they get rid of ultimate animations in the future, I really hate that shit after extended playtime

>>562566296
Zhiliu exist so lmao, doesn't matter

>>562569745
When someone says remove ult animations, I assume they actually mean the cutscene/zoom-in. Taking out the animation entirely or making it a toggle would affect game balance.

>>562556752
I think it would make more sense for them to track the amount after platform cuts. EGS takes a smaller cut and standalone only has payment processor fees. It would give them a better idea of how much money they're actually earning from a game. Though I can't say for sure if that's the case.

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have they said what the hellfire and rebecca buffs are yet?

>>562582408
I don't think they offered specifics beyond the buffs coming via an additional intron; make sure you've got 30 spare thoughts prepared in advance.
I went and got a stockpile of at least 30 for every character currently in the covert shop, just in case

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>>562583382
They're rolling out I7s in a somewhat odd way. It seems it won't require just 30 regular thoughts. In a new post, they added a special reminder at the end:
>[Essence Thought: Hellfire] and [Essence Thought: Rebecca] will be available in [Immersive Theatre] - [Memento] after the shop refreshes on May 5.
So it looks like I7 won't even be accessible until the 2nd half of the patch. I was able to find this pic of the item. The cost is some kind of ticket but it looks different from the regular one. Maybe they're letting you unlock one per theater rotation?

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>>562588282
... Why is literally every single design decision they make either bizarrely arcane or downright retarded (or both of the above, as in this case)?

So uhh it's safe to play this game so long as youre on linux right

What a mess are these new wedges for building around, there are 2 generic 72% skill range on melee and ranged. For more fancy ones at 60% skill range there is rebecca melee, embla (skill dmg buff when doing skill damage) and fina gun (atk to allies when doing additional damage).

Morale siren (+66% self increase when skill range >160%) locks you into using one of any of these highly smelted weapons for anything not niffle, fina or MC (their range passive upgrade + griffin or fina intron 4 + passive covers the 160% range).
Resolve is equal to this morale value at 17.6% and above. This siren at 25% health does up to 16.5% boost equal to 4.4 resolve.
The new greatsword doesn't help this setup. Rebecca melee doesn't transfer atk speed. Queso and lisbell while capable of using embla have other ranged picks.

Focus siren (200%>duration) is support oriented, so fina and MC which have some builds:
A. 2 eternity + helios neon crit chance on weapon damage (passive 15 + coven 33x2 + neon 44 = 225% duration + 59.8% crit chance for allies);
B. 2 eternity + duration griffin (passive 15 + coven 33x2 + griffin 22 = 203% duration).
C. helios, griffin, weapon skill duration (passive 15 + helios 44 + griffin 22 + weapon 30 = 211)
D. griffin + both melee and ranged skill duration (passive 15 + griffin 22 + melee 36 + ranged 30/36 = 203-209) need to pilot.

Morale serpent +66% needs 2 scorch covenant.
Volition serpent +88% needs 2 skill duration covenant, forces use of the duration to atk helios to get 362% atk in 3 slots or 382% with duration griffin. Might be the best pick with morale siren if damage is affected by skill intensity somehow.

>>562537825
Her weapon stats are out: "Max ammo 90%. When a lumino uses their combat skill or ultimate skill and consumes sanity, grants 0.25% skill intensity per sanity spent for 24 secs (up to 75%)".
So between spam or heavy cost skills, i bet more on spam otherwise she loses access to wing inspo or it needs smelt.

>>562590846
I think we need to see the intros first.
Im sure there will be something special like "gain morale by % of skill range" or some weird ass synergy.
Also this got me thinking, we are not going to get any lumino character for the next summit right? Which means the team would be Su Yi Queso and Fina.

>>562588282
ah so its new evil scheme to force you waste endless hours grinding out infinite theater for ten tickets per level for plus ultra ultima tokens for (as it is) broken characters
bravo /s

>>562588282
They are adding more tedious grind to this game? Damn. The devs are really taking notes from NGS when it comes to patches.

>>562590846
>Focus siren (200%>duration) is support oriented, so fina and MC which have some builds:
I feel like realistically, only A and C would be used. If your character benefits from Focus Siren, then more crit from Prismatic Neon would generally be higher value than the wedge it replaces on the supp.
Fina and MC would be able to run 1 eternity + Helios + duration griffin. That setup normally gives only +99% skill duration at +10 but those two can get the last bit from their passive stats.

>>562590846
>>562593879
well I said it before and say it again: Is it just me or is Lumino total clusterfuck without shred of direction??

When you don't have content, you increase the grind. This isn't a good look for Pan ngl, but I should've seen it coming after the auto-continue was added
Also, I don't quite get how Pan could make 11m USD in 4 months, or 2.7m per month, but can't pump out more content. It's not like they've got a thousand employees like Kuro, they've got ~200 at max

>>562597384
yeah, whats with all those 4ever stories about chinese working hard and fast ? and cheap

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>>562534781
Last thread's word cloud

>>562601460
>futa
KEK
Of course its that common

>>562601460
>parries finally
Parallel worlds are laughing at us...

>>562589721
I personally have no issues with I7 having a special process. If it's supposed to be an extra strong effect, then I think it's fine to have extra costs beyond 30 thoughts. 30 shop character thoughts is basically free nowadays.
What I don't like is that this was what they described as "balance adjustments". Even if Hellfire does become viable at I7, her I6 and below remains the same as before. There should've also been some improvements to the current kit instead of simply backloading the power into I7 for a balancing attempt.
>>562596583
>>562596879
Eh, maybe. Better to wait and see how it's actually implemented first. For all we know, that different ticket could come as an additional reward for clearing a certain act at Immortal 36 or below.

>>562601460
>macroing Rhythm garbage
spot on

>>562601460
wait a sec, where is safe horny?

Rape Rhythm
Rape Fina
Rape Fushu
Feed Truffle yumyum cream

As a day one player, I'm starting to feel like there's too much grind in my grindge...

>>562565004
It was 1 million dollars for that Ad and it brought 0 players because they delayed the Steam release. Our management is really shit.

>>562597189
>Nifle is actually Lumino/Umbro
>Fina is actually Hydro/Pyro/Electro/Anemo/Actually whatever the enemy is weak to
It's directionless as fuck.
Also I noticed that since we have just two umbro characters, it's probably going to be the last summit element before they switch the formula.

>1.3 is looking so bad it actually killed the general

>>562630532
Trust

>>562631701
Sorry, I actually use the qipao to give her a proper chest.

^gayest retard faggot award of 2026

>>562601460
>futa game
anti-futa bros... did we lose?

>>562638424
>>562638647
Stop being gay someday

>>562638745
but you're the gay one, futafag

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>game made 11m US from december to march not uncluding launch revenue
is this good or bad?

i will not play katana lisbell

we are dead today because it's easter and we're spending time with family :)

>>562645356
real porn or slop

>>562645202
Well of course. Pan is a christian studio after all.

>>562648234
>Pan is /dna/
>meaning all the doomjeets are Pan

>>562638991
Pretty bad.

>>562638991
Depends how much they spend, or for new releases how much it costs the initial investment to create the game. Real profits after debt is paid on investments matter more than how much gross income you generate, but no one reports that.
You can make 1bil and it won't matter if you waste or overspend 999.9mil on dumb things. But you can brag about it on revenue charts like it's a highscore and imply you're fine.

>>562638991
they're definitely in the red
it costs more just to keep the servers running

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I hope the new game mode won't be this soulless.

I wish my phone ran dna

Where's the fat vita poster? I cant keep on living without fat vitas

>>562657118
lmao, ever since people realized she will one shot the average mob with just 1 button they have all been running her. She's such a mistake.
>>562660187
The movement is ass and you can't piercing ascent with grace.

>>562660187
My 10-year-old phone runs it well enough to AFK farm on it.

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DNA super game

>>562660571
I don't need to move to afk

>>562660936
I bet it would run like shit but it would run. Problem is i dont have space and i REALLY didnt want to factory reset.
I already tried to clean it but theres only things i cant really delete left

>>562623221
I wouldn't really call this part directionless.
Nifle's split dmg type is part of the balancing. She has very high raw dmg output and can be decent at both lumino and umbro content. At the same time, she doesn't excel as much as a pure lumino/umbro character in favored content because of that.
Fina's 4 element system gives slightly more benefit to off-element weapon dmg characters since the additional damage can get the elemental advantage bonus. Her I6 gives her the unique ability to deal okay damage in any element-based content.
I'd rather have them play around a bit with the element system on some characters. Better than having all of the characters be "deals dmg but in X color" There are still pure lumino-type dmg characters (including Su Yi) so it's not like lumino lacks characters that only do lumino dmg.

how long til update?

>>562666591
Maintenance ends April 7 11:00 UTC+8. Convert that to your local time.

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skin from behind

>>562674819
i will be pissed if zhiliu ever looks better in a crappy $5 asset rip skin than the gacha i pigged for

>>562664369
I mean Hydro is about summoning water animals
Electro all have damage that focuses on multiple target hitting
Lumino doesn't got a thematic theme and it doesn't get along with their wedges either

IMO they need to start thinking of "sub" damage types that character also inflict. And yeah sure keep some pure element damage dealers.
>>562674819
Looking good
>>562675368
The generic skins are their best cosmetics BY FAR
This is not up to debate

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Huaxu story part 2 preview

https://youtu.be/eKsN6Lis3N8
this will make more than zhiliu

can the new update and I7 redeem hellfire bros?

>>562682812
If they double all of her values on range and duration maybe? Even if she could instakill but at only 6 meters she is effectively useless for the game we have.
She still needs a HP to ATK value conversion so building health doesn't corner her into ... nothing role she serves of micro taunt.
Maybe also consume 1% of current health to boost attacks so she can use that gargantuan health pool with regen, while doubling damage effect when she has lower % of health than target.

Everyone says to farm mystic maze for coins by turning up all those modifiers in the final difficulty, but when I do I get shit bonuses and then I do no damage to the final boss. What am I missing?

>>562681631
Cute mors and Zhiliu
Won't even address the other creature
>>562682812
Maybe if it's something legit insane.
In fact, her getting the first batch reduces the chances of her getting something good, since between overtuning it and undertuning it, it's more likely they leave it underpowered as it's their first attempt at this.

>>562687298
Use one of the competent damage dealers with preferably smelted weapons and high intron.
I just grab zhiliu nowadays, her greatsword and max smelt embla allows me to toss dragon on map when i enter, afk until door opens and repeat. At high investments she overkills the entire first half at 240 or one third at 270, 300 adds too much overtime on last boss.

>>562687298
Which character are you using? The ones good for maze should be able to do alright even if you get some weak bonuses. You can also start by removing the enemy hp increase & enemy DR modifiers. Then turn them up later depending on how strong you are.
It's generally not ideal to have every single modifier maxed (300%) since enemies can become so tanky that it slows down your farm rate, even if you get slightly more per run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqOMXYfdL2k
I hope the Huaxu ending is peak

>>562693769
Mostly with Lynn, she can do the rest no problem but she's been faltering at the boss at i2. Maybe it's because I need better weapons or higher smelts because I've mostly been using the stat stick weapons for her. I do have an easier time with the boss with i2 Psyche and i2 Kezhou I've noticed

>>562687931
Having low smelts on my weapons might be a problem. I've been dragging my feet on it because getting all the shit to make the sharpening potions/projectiles and then the shit to make the weapon is an annoying process

>>562699174
>Mostly with Lynn
Yeah Lynn is going to have issues with the boss. Her single target dps is not great, especially so before I6. Lack of weapon smelts is not the problem here.
If you want to use Lynn in maze, it's best done with I6 and I believe Guixu Ratchet I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Ratchet will be moving to the letter shop in about a day. So if you don't already have it crafted, wait a bit.

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>>562687298
Max everything except for the enemy HP and damage reduction.
Psyche is the best at maze, followed by Nifle.
Lynn w/ Ratchet can have really good but also really bad runs. She lacks the consistency of Psyche and Nifle, especially after the Ratchet nerf (still absolutely baffled they didn't unnerf it).
Rhythm is similar to Lynn in that she can have really good and really bad runs.
Zhiliu will probably be pretty consistent at i6 but I don't have it yet so I couldn't test it. That said she will still probably be slower than Nifle due to her slow animations.

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forgot to do my weekly bosses

>>562708456
Happened to me on the 2nd or 3rd week after launch.
Don't worry, it will make you paranoid enough that it never happens again.

>>562708456
Bricked, enjoy that B rank at summit
>>562708937
Wrong. But then again, intros mostly matter for summit.
Still interesting how Psyche hasn't reached the shop yet. Mostly looking at Fina since Im not using my weeklies on her but there's no way she doesn't show up in the next summit.

>>562707180
>>562687298
I've been Zhiliu pilled rn, I thought the blueprint reset was today and did a shit ton of runs

Running her at I6 (like any sane man should have already) means 1 simple regular dragon can get you to obliterate enemies with ease. Faster than Nifle 97% of the time and doesn't really need melee weapon trigger chance like how Nifle really needs her ranged trigger chance.
If you set up your dragon before the boss spawns, you can easily make sure that even Hellfire goes down without a fight
Blues is still a nigger though

>>562682812
The I7 effect is very likely balanced with the upcoming pyro wedges in mind. So she won't be fully redeemed until v1.4 at the earliest. Which would be only a month after we get access to I7 anyways.
This is assuming pyro wedges are coming in v1.4 so that I7 Hellfire, Camilla, and Hilda can perform as intended. Which if Flora is the first v1.4 character, means she might have to be a support or secondary dps that'll have to shine later when the umbro summit comes.

>>562713287
I7 won't do shit for either Hellfire or Rebecca. Their kits just suck.

Those rumors of the devs losing the og code and thats why they can't buff characters is starting to sound real. They are just adding on top of their current mess with I7s.

>>562721073
>og code
you mean Genshin ?
lmao

>>562722719
Mihoyo killed us...

>>562725364
"Those bastards!"

1.3 will not peak above 1700 players on steam charts.
Feel free to grudgepost, I am that confident. ;)

>>562732337
I was thinking it would barely go over a thousand to be desu. But I wasn't gonna say it.

>>562732337
Yeah because we are still in Ch*na but wait till we get a whole new region in 1.4. That's the comeback update!

>>562645356
How did you pay for it?

>>562733126
I just made a standard stripe donation and messaged Leto through matrix with the receipt number. I didn't have a matrix account before but it was simple to make one.
You can also message him on telegram if you have an account but if you don't, matrix is simpler since you need a phone number to make a telegram account.

>paying just to post retarded slop

>>562738367
Actually, I paid because I got hit with a 30-day ban. Pornposting is just the might as well.

>>562738993
actually nvm based. i remember a janny kept deleting my posts because i kept kicking him from my game lobbies.

this patch literally doubled the game size btw, it's going to be HUGE

>>562744558
Hugely unoptimized just like Kurogames

>>562745094
nah, the maps they showed are just huge af. pretty sure they added the mounts for this

>>562745169
>pretty sure they added the mounts for this
But the mounts are slower than speardashing.

>>562720469
Rebecca was incredibly strong early on, until they gave everyone else with better aoe infinite sanity through fushu. hydro is still wedgecucked too
she could still make a comeback

>>562747829
>until they gave everyone else with better aoe infinite sanity through fushu.
Lmao no one uses Fushu for the sanity regen. The main use for Fushu is the skill speed.

>>562542675
vita

>>562542675
futa vita

>>562751201
I'm rolling on the floor laughing haha

what went wrong...?

what went right...?

>>562751529
gameplay

>>562751565
music

>>562737738
Now he knows who you are.

I6 Fina today, but once again they gave me a 10 roll when I was 28/30.

Rape Fina.

>maintenance
wtf! let me in!

>>562761257
no..

>new title screen with a new song
we're so fucking back

>>562744558
It only went up 3GB for me. 22.2 -> 25.2. You probably still had the pre-download files and counted that.

ETA for patch?

>>562772463
about 3 hours I think

My biggest hope is that the story doesn't drop the fucking ball after they made us wait four months for the next part

I couldn't give the tiniest little butterfly shit about the story to be desu.
I care about them fixing the game so that it's not AFKslop anymore.

>>562775253
This. I already forgot about story. Only thing I remember is that one dude betraying the other dude and playing as Mors for 5 minutes.

>>562773559
Power of friendship

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>I didn't do the daily shit before the maintenance began so I will have to do it when I wake up

>>562776037
Simple. Don't sleep so you don't have to wake up early

>>562751201
I'm rolling on the floor cooming haha

>>562710686
>Still interesting how Psyche hasn't reached the shop yet.
How is it interesting? We pretty much knew since launch that all the initial weekly boss characters would rotate out first before the new ones. Phantasio is the last one to move to the shop with Camilla release. After that, the new characters start moving to the shop in the order they were released, with Psyche being the first in v1.4.

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>>562788083
?

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>>562788083
>put in the effort to type UTC+8 time into the search bar
>find out 11:00 is in 35 minutes
>server still down

>>562783378
It's interesting because it will tell us what Pan thinks of it's element release schedule for Summit.
Specifically speaking, makes me wonder if Fina will become easy I6 before the next summit.

tung tung tung sahur would save dna

is it up?

What's the point of the game going live if I can't get the new character yet?

IT'S UP

Rebecca might be more usable, hellfire doesn't fix her range. Both need essence thought and golden ascension material.

Jagged growl shotgun, base critical damage 250%. Passive: 62.5% critical damage, when dealing damage with this weapon increases Damage Dealt by 35% if the current weapon is a melee weapon.
Dregs of glimmer assault rifle. Passive: multishot +37.5%, when a pyro character deals skill dmg, grants 1 stack of +2.5% skill dmg for 10s up to 30 stacks.
Fledging dream has {float4}
Translation might be garbled in this update.

>>562590846
Heavy cost is more accurate here, su yi consumes all sanity and is a morale unit with skill range passive for morale siren.

>tabethe cant wear the new skin
??????

>>562590846
So are these just shit for Kezhou or what

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Base skin looks better than the new skin btw

>>562795589
Again?
Sigh, at this rate I will be saving for a Berenica skin.

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>>562795792
its brutal

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>>562794568
>they're already this fucking lazy that they already cutting the characters they're copy pasting the skins on
This game is doomed

>>562795879
Ok so the only benefit of the skin is the fact you can dye it? And if you whale you get a mecha animation?
I suspected this would happen btw but wanted to see for myself.

>>562795997
you get the hair too

>>562795895
>>562796215
grim

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there are only 2 channels

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What the fuck is this bullshit

>>562797839
chinkshit

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Shes so hot bros.

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they haven't replaced yale in the weeklies yet
you can just buy his letters though

>like 5 characters can't wear the new skin
was copy pasting it that hard?

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elite mobs new health bar

Why would I ever install this game when it got hacked, twice?

>>562798224
No, not really.

>>562798693
To play it duh

with new update, game occasionally drops fps and/or freezes when continue/selection window pops up during exploration commission

>won't let me download the new patch
I feel like this game is telling me to quit.

macro is broken. gg

>>562797839
I can only assume it's some kind of psychology thing with gambling and daily small purchases. Average value is 16.5 plumules which is less efficient than buying even the $1 top-up. I thought they would at least give it a higher average value to make up for the randomness.
The only use I can think of is if you're somehow 15~30 plumules short of something but don't want to spend another dollar. So you instead buy this 30c thing once or twice to get those few plumules needed.

>>562801763
You people are playing in africa or what?

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I haven't been around for a minute so I don't know what's actually new or not.

New Hydro character named Arielle (爱琉), nothing for her other than that

Standard banner(?) skins for Rhythm and Fina

Flora gacha WIP videos
prop_yanchu_fuluolazhanjiedaoju_Lighting_Edit
https://litter.catbox.moe/lqmbjmlislxpe5ob.mp4
skin_yanchu_fuluolapifu_Lighting_Edit
https://litter.catbox.moe/rwlsbhg50rzil4gj.mp4

Claymore_Baolie
https://litter.catbox.moe/nfoq2m0q9yk7svhh.mp4

2B might have replaced Mr Qiu as character ID 1104. The reference is incredibly vague and miniscule but I'm rolling with it. I double checked, and it looks like the change happened in 1.1. Specifically, some files were added and things pointing to BP_Qiuxian_Passive changed to BP_2B_Passive.

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the new limited banner skin upgrade system is every bit as bleak as i'd feared

>>562802897
I'm playing on steam. The game keeps telling me to download the patch and the window just shuts down and doesn't restart.

>>562803942
Bro just get the launcher like any sane man. There's no benefit to having the steam version.

>>562804389
There is a benefit, it improves the most important thing for video game enjoyment: Steamchart numbers

game is unplayable without a macro and im too lazy to make one.

>>562805309
Yeah we heard you are trans the first time bro, no need to repeat yourself

Wait I'm stupid I can just make the game press space bar and not have to worry about clicking.
Macro gods win again
>>562805508
I'm straight, have a fat hog, and work from home.

>>562805641
Calling your fat ass hog is fitting.

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>>562805691
I was referring to my willy.

>>562803520
>New Hydro character named Arielle (爱琉)
I saw a mention of "Ai Liu" being planned as the character for v2.0. So she's going to be very far away from release unless that's a placeholder.
I wonder if she's going to be very lore significant or expected to be popular. I'm thinking they would want to make the v2.0 character especially notable if they're planning it over a year in advance.
>Standard banner(?) skins for Rhythm and Fina
Not a standard banner, that pic is for the new phoxene spending event coming up.
>spoiler
Well I guess it supports the rumor of her showing up in v1.5. Sadly, the game is more known in the west now for the malware incident, so that's going to dampen the discussion around it. I also fear that they might not have improved the gameplay enough by then for the publicity to be worth it. Maybe we cope on the v1.4 or v1.5 patch being actual gamechangers.

I got kinda worried seeing more internal WIP still getting leaked, but looks like these Flora videos were recorded in January? It's the first time I've seen them but perhaps these files were obtained over 2 weeks ago.

>>562803520
is this a meme nickname or is there actually a nier collab

Well at least the materials for the wings can be farmed in conjunction.

Is it me or running and bullet jumping feels a lot faster now?

>>562808006
What wings? The new wings? Been out of the loop. I've been just logging in to do dailies and then logging off as of late.

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>>562806538
I think the devs just planned an absurd amount of characters before having any idea how the story would be structured. There's a huge pile of names of characters that still haven't shown up yet, and this patch just added MacGuffin (definitely not a placeholder). They just filled in all the empty names for ChatCharacter slots 1-34, with 11 empty ones on top of that, and so far all of those characters have been playable, except for Qiu who it's safe to say got cut by now.

Seth's English VA was also recorded at least 2 years ago at this point, since his VO was in the March 2024 CN-only beta.

>perhaps these files were obtained over 2 weeks ago
They were just added into 1.3's download. The devs are just really bad at not putting silly shit into the files, like the Nifle wedding dress. They keep adding images to a story recall folder that I'm pretty sure still isn't implemented in-game yet, and they still haven't removed a bunch of in-dev screenshots from it.

>>562807021
The filenames are definitively 2B, what the developers meant by that could be anything.

>>562808397
I'm not feeling any difference. You sure you aren't comparing Rhythm ult to non-ult speeds?
Though one difference I do see is that the dodge is a lot less stiff. You can hold a direction after mid-air dodge to drift towards a certain direction. So maybe they also changed other things for movement.

>>562809085
>The devs are just really bad at not putting silly shit into the files
I mean I can at least understand having future assets and concept art slipping into the game files. I'm confused as to why they need a very early WIP video file in the game to work on something.
A while ago someone mentioned the concept art being put in the game as textures so devs can view it side by side while working on the 3D model. Is there an explanation for a video?

>>562809313
I haven't even popped her ult. I just start running and jumping. Even the dodge cooldown is a lot faster so you can somewhat spam the dodge roll method a bit better.

Also, Morale for Lumino will be a bitch to build lmao. Focus is easy cause you get a ton of the Nirvana doing Siren Wings Inspo but Moral takes Pans Spectrum.

>>562795879
get rid off the white top part and its numba von. nippleclips are enough cover

>>562797814
classsic "fake 'it was a dream' but not really" twist

>>562797839
wowzer, this stretches even beyond gacha, its straight up lottery. yo EU, sack theyre ass

>>562798325
sounds like fuckup

>>562810812
Doesn't sound like it would be too hard to make it as a mod, if it's only removing a nearly skin tight texture. Too bad there isn't really a modding scene for this game.

everything in this patch is total rip off. gotta be last death spasms before eos

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btw the optimizers will have to get back to the geniemon grind if they've been skipping it. They added more traits than what the patch notes said. Notably, this one is gonna be the new At Peace.
+1 skill lvl might not seem like much but the difference is pretty big for some geniemons.
For Boxie, in addition to buffing bonuses to 17.5%, it increases auto-loot range bonus to +40m. This could make gluttonous unnecessary since total range will be at ~52m.
BP geniemons get a pretty big boost to their numbers. The 4* ones get a big boost at lv5 too but the BP ones have a stronger effect to begin with.

>>562812808
true
>>562813045
game is too grindy and boring

>>562812808
You said that in 1.2

>>562813045
fuck that noise, ppl finally just about stopped with this shit and now they dilute their "skills" with dozen more useless shit and one or two good picks

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>stage 2 of the skin costs 54 needles
>stage 3 of the skin costs 72 needles
>126 needles in total
>you get 6 needles per prism
You need 21 prisms for the effects. So the gacha skin almost doubled in price in the span of a single patch. Holy shit I fucking hate Eastern Jews (chinks) so fucking much. And the worst part is that the chink players will lap this shit up like they did with the scam dragon.

>>562797814
this is such cheap and lame asspull.
>boss blows its cover (too early)
-retarded dev: oh no, there is still second half to be done
>eh, just forget it (literally)
peak writting amirite baka fr
I have seen third rate webnovels with better MC "handling" than this

>>562813886
Not exactly useless. It's mostly combat stat boosts. Better than nothing considering that before people were only using Keen + a small amount of ATK% from Fierce.
The other unique traits are somewhat niche but I can see them still being more useful than most of the previous ones.

>>562814030
>I NEED the skin with all the pews pews fvaking scammers
Do you say the same thing about expensive clothing brands? Are you crying every time you can't get the latest Gucci shirt?

^Here we go. Here's the mentally ill chink slurper with nothing better to do in his life than to perpetually shit up this general.

i uninstalled i dont care any more take care

>>562814530
it's the resident homosexual and a doomposter who is totally one of us because he's so 4chancore and based

>>562814676
at least don't make it obvious it's you the misogynist tourist who cries about safe horny from /gdg/ and shits on the game every time
yes it's me the lefty troony femcel zoomer whatever buzzwords you said so far aka your nemesis and i'm here to remind you you're never going to be straight

^unironically needs to take his meds, or don't and hopefully this thing kills itself eventually

>new lumino wedges
lisbell status?

>>562815235
with how much you cry like a baby you'll kill yourself before any tranny does the 41% boomer

>>562814530
if you meant, that only absolutely worst of brainless retarded npc drones ever buy those, then yes
tldr "bad" analogy

>>562816149
Don't even bother with that faggot. It's a chronic ragebaiter. I don't think he actually means anything he posts. He just wants to stir shit.

>>562816389
because it's the only way he knows how to get attention

>>562816149
It's a good analogy. I meant what I said. There are people bragging with expensive fashion in real life but you don't hear anyone complain about it since there's no incentive to hire third worlders to make propaganda. Unlike the gaming industry where there's always someone paid to shit on a game.

>phase 3 of showdown commission is a long escort section
disgusting

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Hellfire and Rebecca are fucking insane now.

>>562817364
Doubt it. And what the fuck is "essence thought" anyways? How do you get it?

>>562814030
sir, you win two internetz for peak reaction image selection

Su Yi feels pretty clunky. Not what I expected. Can't say I love it.

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>so many doomjeets already posting ITT

>>562818828
kinda agree. how is she supposed to work as summit rushtime killer?

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>>562819095
Maybe it will be Lisbell's time to shine.

>>562818828
i love the feel of her 360 sweeping giant sword, but everything i read about her seems shes just objectively bad. like her kit just has a lot of flaws

>>562819095
maybe with the 360 sweeping aoe? but the other lumino DPS will probably beat her

>>562818828
>>562819095
If its anything like psyche and zhiliu, probably some of her introns will make her smoother to play

>>562819310
looking at them, not really. I1 increases her stacks, I2 gives her periodic missiles like psyche, I4 is grouping, I6 is pen and bigger ult nuke

>>562818874
it's at best two of them samefagging at different hours
you will notice when they do it because they go something like
>wow this guy is a retard am I right
>nyes this is true you should ignore him
>i agree we should ignore him
or
>this game is shit
>nyes i agree i am uninstall
every implication of many is actually just one gaslighting you

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>>562814030
The only hope for this game is if it gets destroyed and rebuilt from scratch by Shinrabanshoman.

The new girl is just lumino saiki....

>>562818874
Procced.

>>562820127
Nah, Psyche's gameplay is 100 times more fluid. Su Yi feels like shit to play.

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I bought the gacha box and lost :(

Another flop update. 1.4 is the last chance.

>>562820593
You said 1.2 was the last chance

>>562820781
No I didn't. There is no record of me ever saying that.

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>>562820593
Eh, honestly as much as I wanted this game to be good, I don't think these chink zoomer nepo babies have it in them to transform the game anymore.
The game will stay the same AFkslop and they will keep increasing the whalebaiting until they eventually pull the plug.
At first it was 50 prism postures and people let it be because it was just a posture nobody really cared about.
Then it was the 60 prism mount and people let it be because it wasn't faster than existing movement techs.
Now it's the gacha skin's price doubling and people will let it be because it's just cosmetic.
Next patch you will the same thing done to the gacha weapon skin.
After that they will introduce a similar upgrade system for the mounts but it won't just be cosmetic.
Eventually they will introduce something that will affect the core gameplay.
They will keep pushing the envelop until the game implodes. They have no plans on making it a better game to bring in more players. They are now all in on milking the few players the game has until they can't be milked anymore.
Tragic but sadly this was to be expected from chinks. Well, we almost had something great for a moment at least.

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>>562820781
1.2 was the last chance. Picrel is TR65 and still plays, by the way.
1.3 was the last chance:
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/559194250/#q559825910
And now 1.4 is the last chance. What don't you understand? Next update is always the last chance.

>>562821864
>spend 5 years developing a gacha
>structure the whole game like a gacha
>events like gacha
>progression like gacha
>remove gacha characters 3 months before release
>it still plays like a gacha
>gacha enjoyers leave
>gacha haters leave
>see? no gacha doesn't work.
Grade A management.

>>562821694
This is unironically what's going to happen. There's a gacha called Astra: Knights of Veda. I took interest in it because it's heavily inspired by Vanillaware (especially Dragon's Crown) but it was a massive flop. The game started with character and weapon gacha but the last time I checked it had 5 or 6 different things you had to gacha for and I'm not exaggerating. It was in development for a very long time too.

Now that old players have quit we can move to stage 2 and make sure nobody new plays this game

>>562825189
pretty sure evil bigot streamers already handled that stage with all that hacking lies and slander

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>>562824213
Every update added new powercreep with more gacha. I heard the guy in charge had a history of shitty management and scams. Gooks are useless.

If I hop on, do I have a chance of grabbing the new girl? I'll be starting from scratch.

>>562808509
Duh.
You can get the morale materials and the crit materials all in one.
>>562818828
She can't attack while flying anything but up or down. She's a turret, not an agile character.

>>562830719
Not right away because new characters are behind a tower mode. You need to grind a bit first.

>>562830719
Characters/weapons aren't gacha but they are heavily timegated without spending.
New characters are put into this endgame mode called Immersive Theatre where you get 65 letters for them, usually enough to get them to i2 unless you're really unlucky.
The new character stays in the theatre for a month and then they are moved to the Nocturnal Echoes which are weekly bosses that you can claim rewards from 5 times a week (either letters for characters or weapons) and replace a character there who gets moved to the shop where it becomes freely farmable.
New characters will take a very long time before they get into the shop tho. For reference, the very first theatre character, Psyche, is still yet to get into the shop and there's still 1 more character before her to get into the shop.
Depending on how much you play, you can get to a high enough level to get the 65 letters for the new girl from the theatre and then a moth from now you can spend your weeklies to i6 her and in the meantime you can spend your weeklies on someone else.

is it safe to login yet

>>562833161
Is it feasible to get to the theatre level before it ends and she moves into weeklies?

>>562796215
I noooticed something else. "Strangely" there no quantity cap on these in the shop, unlikely literally everything else. You need to buy this shit needle exactly 21 times for max unlock, HOWEVER as you can see, it will gladly "allow" you to flush every single prism you have into this chink toilet.

>>562833516
Easily but if you want to get all 65 letters from it you will have to play pretty actively. Not necessarily nolife it but you do have to be pretty active.
You will also need the right character. I6 Nifle from the shop should suffice by herself without a minmaxed team because the theatre will be weak to Electro and Lumino.

>>562833587
Yeah, but also I wouldn't be surprised even they keep introducing even more tiers to the skins.

>>562833293
No if you log in your account switches up your MC choice

>>562835445
you seen the current minmaxed skin? what else to add? only thing missing is fancy dildo

>>562837047
The mech is not even in gameplay dood
That's a start

Also not sure if you guys are gay but I'd have prefered a Camilla skin.

>>562833293
It's not safe. You will get mustard gas

>>562837150
>mech sold separetly. some assembly required
lmao

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>>562732337
>did not even cross 1.5k
Holy GRIM, even I did not expect it to be this low.

>>562839518
kek we are so fucked if 1.4 doesn't add a new map and big changes. There will be no recovery anymore.

>>562837953
Just like my gunplas!
>>562825189
They should raise the trial XP gains from dailies ngl
Old players are already/nearly at 65 so it won't matter

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>>562814030
I just noticed but is there no mech mount? I thought there was gonna be.

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green miku doko

Holy FUCK Su Yi fucking SUCKS What the FUCK I though she was going to be way more fun...

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>>562834779
So basically, play and unlock Nifle then use her to farm the new girl?
Cute onahole btw

>>562825532
Was it a lie? Never seen anyone say that, only that it wasnt a big deal becaus it was fixed an hour later. I dont want to risk getting a keylogger on my computer just because i logged at the wrong time

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>you're a doomjeet
>game is good
>the gameplay in question
Face the wall lmao
Enemies still just run at you and do tickle damage

>>562841128
The fuck is a new map gonna do?
The gameplay is still walk to objective instances, the lumino hedges are awful in comparison to electro, you can't do multiple waves still and need to do a result screen and 2 more loading screens.

New players still face gold wedges hell despite each update giving you 1000 repetitions of the 40 blue wing map to get near peak of half the element only, they can NEVER catch up.

It is abysmal how open world gacha coded players think a new map can save the game when gameplay is not ever held within there, maps are resources OR one time quest areas.
Self introspection time, when was the last time you played on purgatorio island? Weekly boss is not purgatorio, she is on an walled instance.

New map looks big. I hope its actually explorable and not full of invisible walls.

Also Su Yi just fucking sucks.

>>562847780
>The fuck is a new map gonna do?
Advertising a new nice looking map attracts new players.
>It is abysmal how open world gacha coded players think a new map can save the game
I didn't say that.
>and big changes.
That's what I said. It's a combination of the two. The second part is for player retention.

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It's gaming time!

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>>562848598
It's all up to Queso to save the lumino society

>>562847627
Same. I told Trump to fire a missile on my house just in case the virus has escaped containment and materialized in the real world. I ain't taking any risks.

>second password option
They did it. Now we will never get hacked :)

>>562798224
vita gets headaches if nobodys drained her balls

>>562849587
I am laughing my ass off

futamc

>>562849828
Kek

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>>562849828
me holding my laughter

>>562849828
nono it's futavita
get it right

>>562850146
Haha this cracks me up every time

>>562848650
We just got a new map, where are the players you expect from a future update but not now?
Gameplay would not affect new players because the problems arise AFTER you do the story, dna has a retention issue aside from lack of new players.
They are not going to change gameplay either considering we are 6 months in and balance will be issued ONCE on new introns releases, if the unit still sucks that is it.

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So how do you get these essence thoughts?

>New introns did nothing to significantly improve the characters
Here is your balance bro.

>>562849205
Are you retarded? It did get a keylogger for an hour, that has not happened in any other game ive ever played and dismissing it as doomposting or paranoidposting is insane. Especially when it can be easily fixed by getting rid of the launcher that can install random crap on your computer

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I think there is no longer a lvlcap for enemies in theatre
not sure if this is intensional

>>562855469
I'm on your side you fucking retard. It's been scientifically proven that destroying your house is the only surefire way to get rid of a virus completely in 2026. Do you have any idea how many devices you have connected over the wifi? It's not my fault you're uninformed. AI viruses are real and they will kill you if they reach the right device.

>>562855469
Just so you know, you're talking to a certified schizo who's been plaguing the general for about 2 months.
These are some of his recent posts. It's best to ignore the creature.
>562814530
>562815085
>562816607
>562818874
>562819563
He will defend everything about the game and will act like everyone else is insane.

>>562857063
>safe horny censorschizo is back
>everyone playing the game is me
unc moment

See? The creature has zero self-control. It could have ignored the post to at least to try to pretend it's not him but he's incapable.

>>562858065
kek i can't believe he self reported like that

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>>562858065
why deny it? it's true
i am /dna/
and you chuddy are the tourist who is late on his school shooting
you can stop pretending that this >>562858962 is not you when everyone else is me

>>562847730
Since when did Walt Jr stream?

oh shit, content??? I'll install right away

>>562860030
We are still in china though

>>562858065
You think it's rhythmschizo/hutaoschizo?

>>562861248
yup those are all me

>>562861248
Not him, but nah i don't think it's either.
First one was hyper focused on some stuff and the other was louder.

>>562861720
i was in my learning phase

futaoschizo

>>562862485
Haha I really, really, really like this post

>>562862368
you're stressing your cortisol about me when you could be bone smashing your face i heard it makes you look hot

>>562862973
bone mashing, yeah its a thing ok
women love it

wtf are you all doing? go spend money so we don't get shut down. Go!