How do you get to world 2 in quest anyway? I stopped playing after doing the main questline
I assume just do every quest?

>>562730881
My hero

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>>562730881
Shizuka is really dressed for nakadashi

>>562738314
The angry pointing Shizuka from Rance 02 would probably make for a funny reaction image, if somebody posts something retarded.

How would the perfect eroge game would look like for you?
Like gameplay, artist, setting, tone, number of girls, type of relationships (monogamy with route split, harem, rape), etc

>>562739152
KR with SR gameplay, IX H-scenes, and much more character writing.

>>562739409
This but with KR harem mechanics including tracking harem member ovulation status so you can breed them all

>>562739152
I think there's a lot of untapped potential in the Evenicle formula of less girls but with more scenes, more character development and more emotional investment in-universe. I'd far prefer an eroge with 3 girls who have a decent number of scenes each to an eroge where you fuck 20 girls once who come and go like a comet.

>>562734504
there is a go to next world quest, dunno about the exact requirements. Never done it.

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>>562738531
Same energy.

>>562740141
While true, it really sucks if you don't like one of the girls, since that costs you like a third of the content. But Evenicle wasn't limited in number of girls that much anyway.

>>562740429
Yeah but it was definitely a step in a direction which would have deserved a more thorough exploration, if not necessarily by Alicesoft then by other more intrepid developers in the business.

>>562740562
Stuff with main heroines vs. subheroines exists though? It's not like it's a new concept.

>>562740276
nice

>>562739152
I don't know about perfect, but I've thought about a SR-like strategy conquering game with storylines, with less girls but all of them being much more involved and having more scenes and branching paths. Kinda like if in SR the princesses raped after each conquest were actually relevant.

>>562741802
So, Daibanchou?

Every hanny discussing about the size of the harem but no one wants a pure love story. Geez.

>>562739152
I feel like we're in the age of doujin games, where a single developer can produce a whole RPG like Black Souls or Demons Roots, a more complicated SLG like Mad Island, or even relatively high-fidelity 3D games like the Secret Flasher games. That's not even getting into the rise of """partial AI use"""" alongside impressively high CG counts. So what's left for a proper studio to do, where are their advantages?

Personally I think it lies in playtesting. No matter how good a solo dev is, they simply don't have more than one guy's worth of time to test a game, so there's an upper bound of complexity and polish, and they have to pick one over the other. And unlike assets or the engine, you can't outsource this. But a studio has permanent paid manpower they can apply to such tasks.

A solo developer or tiny circle couldn't make Sengoku Rance for example, because it's way too complicated. Too many edge cases, too many obscure bugs that could happen. They could design the game, produce the key art, maybe even cobble together the battle system from RPGmaker plugins and javascript, but it'd run like shit and probably not function. And they'd have to cut most of the game before release.

So for the ideal eroge Alicesoft could make, it'd be something that leverages a professional studio's advantages.

A complex game, possibly with simulation elements, or at least complex variables that mimic a simulation, SR-style.
Things indies can't afford: A well-made, completely original soundtrack; full voice acting by professionals; nice sprites and animations (like dohna dohna, not necessarily animated CGs like anime lilith titles, but that works too)

The catch of course is: that's all pretty expensive, is this commercially viable? Well if the answer is no then indies are simply the future, and there's no place for studios anymore. We've seen several devs take their gacha/mmo/MTX money and use it to develop regular games, so I'm still huffing copium that they might do it.

>>562742498
Definitely not in eroge.

>>562743191
You can make differner routes visual novel style

>>562742653
what are you even talking about? Doujin Sengoku Rance clones do exist. (Dunno if solo or circle, does it even matter?)
Sengoku Rance also has some weird situations, despite the "professional playtesting".

Complex simulations have also been made, like have you heard about Dwarf Fortress? Mostly done by 2 brothers.

Alicesoft is creatively bankrupt anyway, it's gachage slurper.

>>562742653
Nah right now there are games more complex than SR made by one dude in his basement. They get regular updates adding new mechanics and fixing bugs, so in a way the players are the playtesters.

>>562739152
Rpg where you can choose party members, and you can also choose to either go the rape route for them or the gentle love route.

>>562741956
I don't know. Is that the one with nazi Alice?

>>562739152
Pretty much just the era games with some graphics, flavor, and a bit more interactivity.

>>562742653
Most intelligent /haniho/ post I've seen in years. Holy shit. What's your background?

>>562744740
That's daiteitoku, daibanchou is the previous game.
>>562742653
I think for eroge (the ones that aren't visual novels), most single person or very team projects have very little effort in the gameplay portion and just try to make a vehicle for delayed satisfaction porn. Developer companies (if they still existed) should be doing what Alicesoft used to, which is make games that are entertaining that also have sex and porn in them, but there's not much money in it so there's not much incentive for a company to continue doing it in this age when they could be pursuing more profitable ventures, ie gacha, unless eroge is a personal passion. It is constantly getting easier for one person to make a polished game though, so that's probably where the future lies if there is one.
>>562745118
There are intelligent posters here, much higher than the average for this board I'd say, there just isn't much to talk about most of the time because Alicesoft had been radio silent for years at this point.

>>562746556
The only thing keeping me away from making making my own eroge is my lack of creative writing skills.

>>562739152
Something easy, male protag, a decent amount of h-scenes but not so many that they feel like they're impeding the story. For tone, I like the Alice Soft way where the tone is mostly light, but can become very dark. Charming characters, lots of girls, but like 4 main girls.

>>562746854
What kind of eroge would you make?

>>562739152
DESU I'd settle for fantasy setting Sultan's Game

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>>562745118
>What's your background?

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>>562730881
With a new thread we have reached the next stage in the VGL roster process.
Our team has 20 players from the Rance series and 3 players from Alicesoft's other games.
We got 11 suggestions for new players from the Rance series which is a quite a lot so we will have a preliminary poll to cull a few suggestions.
Kenshin, who just missed out on the team in the previous poll, has been included to have 12 players in this preliminary poll.
Out of the 12 please vote for 6 players to make the final poll. Note that every player who is currently on the team will automatically make the final poll.

Additionally we are polling for the player name for Rance, Am, Hornet and Sheila as well as whether or not to adopt the new team logo.

>Poll Link
https://s.surveyplanet.com/6nj3n03s

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>>562749501
Forgot to mention this poll will last until the end of next weekend.

>>562747826
Turn base RPG like Evernicle. Either a fantasy world inspired by 1910-20 Eurasia or an urban dark fantasy, like a supernatural muder mystery.

>>562750216
Sengoku Rance was originally envisioned as a field RPG like Evenicle

>>562750505
I do like Evenicle but man we really dodged a bullet there.

How long until the repository gets updated to include the new Koihime scenes?

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>>562749501
for our decade. AIYAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

>>562750796
It had Natori as main party member

whatever happened to the official Daiteikoku release

>>562753228
waiting for >>>>>>>>>>>JAST

Sengoku Rance is what happens when you make Halo in reverse.

>>562753594
I don't follow.

>>562748694
Nice rec, looks pretty nice. Would you recommend them? I usually avoid western games like the plague.

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>>562738314
JP twitter commenting on the natural and essential Rance-Shizuka relationship and interactions.

>>562742653
Golden age of gacha is ending. Maybe there'll be a big budget eroge renaissance. Indies were supposed to be boosted by AI but nothing has impressed so far.

>>562762589
There is big money to be made, even if the average jap doesn't understand that yet. The only people tapping into the market are forever in development WEG patreon grifters. It's easier to start that kind of project when the collateral is only one person. I remember Subverse breaking through though, before petering out because it was shit.

>>562763227
>forever in development WEG patreon grifters
Why is this so common?

>>562763698
It's basically the gacha formula but for H. Releasing little pieces at a time keeps people in a constant state of caring about something, so they keep constantly spending on it. The people get to feel like a community that were "there" together when something happened.

>>562761901
>>562738314
When did Shizuka graduate from normal woman to fertility goddess?

>>562764214
She's too green. Green is a MAN'S color!

>>562764214
After pregnancy

>>562764820
Green is a feminine colour because nature is green and feminine-coded.

>>562764820
In China green is associated with being a cuck

Does Sabaku no Guardian take place at a particular time in the chronology or can you watch it whenever?

>>562768317
Its not canon but roughly around LP1 or LP2 (so around Rance 2 - IV era) but before Kichikuou

>>562767987
>>562768286
Don't care, The King is green and he is the pinnacle of what man can aspire.

The King is green and his seed belongs in Shizuka

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Would you let your sister dress like this?

>>562772539
Always remember that the amount of clothes demon girls wear is inversely proportional with how dangerous they are.

How long until someone rips the sex scenes? I wanna hear what Miracle sounds like

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>>562773060
Ralga bros, we are so back.

>>562773981
That's a monster, not a demon, but the theory still holds as she beat Rance, the strongest being that has ever existed, no problem.

>>562774272
She could solo the monster realm no prob.

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>>562749501
voted

Is there some colloquial name for 4.1 and 4.2? It's kind of awkward to write that out every time.

>>562781758
4.x is what I use

>>562781926
Yeah. That's good.

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>mfw the steppe monkeys leave their containment zone again

Does anyone know if the training skill affects non-combatant exp in Quest?

>>562787145
I don't believe it does

>>562787965
I see. I guess maybe it'd be a bit vroken if it did.
Do you know if Coaching does?

>>562790340
I don't

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>>562749501
Ay, Tone why do hannies control the gold supply?

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don't die in my sleep potteries

>>562753594
Based autismbro.

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>RANCE X DOKO-
>Editing: 57%.
Thanks Hornet.

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>>562806464
I love Hornet.

>>562739152
X gameplay without the forced chest rng and meal ticket rng would be great

>>562773981
Those are some funky eyes.

For fated girls we have no voices for Pastel, Teru and tilde

>>562781362
Cure Papaya? More like Cure Babaya

>>562820145
Cure Bambara

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>>562824326

I think female masturbation is NOT hot unless the artist draw her in fetal position and slipping their hands under their panties.

>>562828625
I like it when they are crouching and reaching underneath a thong

>>562829323
Why a thong specifically?

>>562820136
Pastel has a good shot if the beat gacha manages to get to the 8th part, Tillday has an outside shot of getting in the 9th part. Don't see Teru ever being voiced

>>562749501
Reminder to vote if you haven’t

>>562833441
Omanchi and Avenger got in

>>562838387
Omanko

>>562839389
Kudasai

>>562826087
Bezeleye has one of the best bodies in the series

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Confidence is key

Is Quest longer or shorter than IX?

>>562859060
Longer

>>562859060
It feels longer because Quest is shit compared to IX

>>562859156
Much longer?

>>562859513
Mostly due to grind and all the extra content. Significantly longer if you count world 2 and world 3

>>562859513
Quest actually has gameplay, IX is a VN with a few battles sprinkled in between. Gameplay > VN, because you can't just holding ctrl through it (for the second and following times)

>>562855273
Classic Rance is fun

>>562859513
if you're a fast reader, yeah

RISE

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>>562886572
i don't think this is consistent
but it's just like Rance to say he absolutely only likes one thing, when it actually just depends on his mood, anyways.

>>562886712
The enlightened reading on his character is that he acts out whatever he feels at any given moment, and when he's feeling a certain way he likes to think that that is how he has always thought, and is prone to impulsive flights of fancy.

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>>562749501
I've done my part.

I fucked up and gimped all my best fighters giving them Coach for the tower of Babel.

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don't die in my sleep

>>562903470
don't shatter in your slumber

>>562893841
Rizilianf Bitch

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Been on a 2hu kick recently and remembered Sengoku Gensokyo exists. How does it compare to SR?

>>562910972
not as great but fun enough

>>562911134
Sort of expected that. But it has enough mechanical depth to make it worthwhile right? Will give it a try in a while.

>>562911672
>>562910972

I binged it a lot when I first was in college. I don't fully understand how the RNG works but its a pretty fun sidegrade to sengoku battles BUT recruiting people is a much bigger pain in the ass because you've got way less 'free generics' and the storyline is very linear.
Battles use a 'time token' system where you start out with X tokens and each attack takes a varying amount of tokens from the stack, with the battle ending either when you've killed the entire enemy side or the token counter hits zero.
Killing the entire enemy side DOES NOT auto set the victory gauge to 100% and this will result in absolutely infuriating outcomes occasionally.
Instead of territories having set HP via 'buildings'/fields, it has a number value that you can take/lose up to 100 per battle and like 80ish if you don't bother defending.
Battles start with five units against five units that are set at semirandom distances from each other
very close
close
medium
far
very far
with the ability to do melee at close ranges and ranged at far, and jack shit at middle. You can advance or retreat as part of your turn. The AI loves to start with a unit in melee range of your casters and get rng first turn and immediately cripple them.

Overall I enjoyed it a lot but it was a total rng pain in the dick a lot. I have a save somewhere of myself on the final territory capture of the F2P 'pick a faction' mode where I was playing as the 'suicide' faction, the human village in the middle of everyone else; I ended up losing the starting territory and eventually getting literally everything else out curiosity to see if I could do it.

Is Am's theme royalty free? I swear I've heard the same song in several RPGM games.

>>562913308
The people love Am-sama

>>562913902
Schahemertinn Kaiserin banzai!

Am, Suzume and Gele are the most overrated girls in the series

>>562887301
this is ai generated, this is motherfucking ai generated.
teach me your secrets, senpai

So when the fuck are we getting the sex scenes from the Musou collab? I wanna hear Miracle moan

>>562886712
Athena2.0 is just so perfect she needs to be constantly nerfed so Rance isn't fucking her 24/7

>>562919767
I agree with Gele but that's it

>>562919767
Just a couple guys with non-main girl waifus, nothing to see here.

>>562919767
Suzume had a really solid storyline, so I don't blame them.

Does Rance Quest have an Alice Mansion where devs talk about the game? Did Mangagamer fuck it up again?

>>562919767
It's actually Shizuka

>>562925079
This.

>>562925079
No

>>562919767
It's okay to be wrong bro.

I cant give Rizna her erotic stimulation despite being done chapter 2 for some reason in rance VI. I only got the Rizna and Daniel event but seem to be stuck at getting this one despite triggering the conditions.

>>562928019
Are you sure you got all the flags to trigger it? I seem to remember there being multiple. Maybe a heart event on the underground school exam map or having not spoken to Tamanegi about training, or something with that book Rance finds that gives him the idea to trick her.

>>562929428
I did the first two but not sure about the last one. I did do the cooperative bank before recruiting her and missed an FR event so hopefully its not the latter.

>>562930550
Did she graduate the exam?
Have you had anal sex with her?

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>>562920138
pixiv

>>562933684
Since he said erotic stimulation, it sounds like the beginning of her events to me amd is trying to start them.

>>562934019
I know, I meant the genner, how did he gen this? I can't compete with that

>>562936283
Look up green hanny on pixiv his stuff is amazing

>>562936361
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/10022214

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>>562936606
I know, but I also don't know how he does his gens

>>562937814
maybe characters on solid color background edited onto a genned background? idk

>>562937814
It might be worth it just messaging the guy. Worst he can say is waito piggu go homu

>>562937905
you destroyed my imagination that this was fully genned

>>562937935
nihongo ha chotto....

Unpopular opinion: I agree with Twitter and Tumblr that characters should not be dressed in a way that is just sexy and reveal too much skin just for the sake of it. There are exceptions like tribal outfits or characters related to sexuality like femme fatales. The worst offenders are Prima, Urza, Yulang, and the majin girls.

Popular opinion:
fags like you should shove a shotgun up your ass and pull the trigger

>>562941657
Your an AI adopter already, so type something up, plug it into gemini and believe with all your heart that it'll come out ok

>>562941962
I generally agree that girls don't need to show skin all the time and that taking it off is hotter, but some of the stupid outfits are also really sexy. I only agree with Prima and Urza as the leotard obsession really got too much, but I wouldn't change many designs (at least not to be more covered up, Rance girls are actually really modest for eroge, even princess would wear the most ridiculous shit).

No need to agree with Shitter as the opinions they hold are retarded for the sake of it. They'll complain about anything as long as they think it's made for males.

>>562942319
Yeah I think 90% of the female designs in Rance are really good or at least fine. I don't generally agree with Twitter but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
In my opinion the worst designs come from Zeth. They are all over the place and nothing about them suggests that they come from the same country, or even the same organization, which is not the case foe Laezas, Helman or JAPAN.

>>562941962
characters should totally be dressed in sexy ways. This does not require too much skin, but showing skin isn't bad either.

>>562943127
Yeah, it's a very silly porn game. It might sometimes be hotter to take it off later, but sexy should be prioritized (which it often isn't, in Rance, even if the outfits still end up looking silly). I think I'd only agree if it was a bit more of a serious story.

>>562943969
Most of the times the human girls aren't wearing anything crazy. The Leazas Royal Guard is probably the worst example and even that's not even bad. Demons not being dressed like normal women is a complete non issue.
>>562941962
If anything, the designs of Rance on average are much more chaste than your standard popular gacha game.

>>562943127
I would rather prioritize outfits that communicate the girls's personalities and that they would choose for themselves, rather than sexy outfits for the sake of it. You don't need much to make a girl sexo and more often than not concealing is better than revealing.
>>562944436
>If anything, the designs of Rance on average are much more chaste than your standard popular gacha game.
I'm not saying they aren't, I just pointed some of the characters whose designs I don't like. Gacha designs are terrible imo.

>>562945680
>You don't need much to make a girl sexo
Not really, if we mean designs sexy to merely look at, that's not most Rance girls at all. I think the art style and samey bodies don't help in Rance's case, but in general the outfits can definitely do a lot of work.

>>562947721
>we mean designs sexy to merely look at, that's not most Rance girls at all
elaborate

>>562948675
I meant what I said, most designs aren't sexy to look at.

>>562948675
many girls are dressed in ways even feminists could approve. That's rare for a male oriented eroge. I mean sure, there's the sexy armor of the Royal Guards in Leazas, but the female warriors in JAPAN have like....actual armor, same as the men.
just look at >>562887301

Rance world girls dress feasibly for a hypothetical actual setting unlike let’s say kuroinu or the average gacha

>>562951720
This is a good thing btw

>>562951091
It's the artstyle. The clothes are fine. Tutugano can effortlessly make the same girls look like sex goddesses without changing their outfits.

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We're going to the dog park later

>>562958130
then we'll visit a monster general

Tilde is at least house trained, the same can't be said for a certain purple ninja

>>562959592
I prefer them untrained

>>562959430
She's going to piss on him after I kill him

>>562933684
i graduated the exam but didnt have anal sex with her.

>>562963434
I entered the thread and read this out of context
>It says here on your resume you aced all your exams... but no mention of anal sex experience? Care to explain?

>>562966084
He's never gonna make it in this climate like that

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>>562749501
Reminder to vote

Thoughts on anal sex?

>>562970956
It's a pain in the ass

>>562970956
Rizna needs it to graduate

>>562971141
you were not supposed to receive it, anon

>>562970956
Something that you shouldn't do with your wife

>>562971773
why not? Why derive her of this pleasure of hers?

>>562971904
She poops from there.

>>562970956
It was my main fetish from pretty much the moment I became sexually aware. Couldn't tell you why.

>>562972503
How can you even say you love her if you wouldn't even stick it in her poophole?

>>562973029
For me that was ENF and CFNM

>>562910972
I've never heard it praised. Try https://alicesoft.miraheze.org/wiki/User_blog:TsuchiNoKao/Games_like_Sengoku_Rance instead.

>>562924842
>Did Mangagamer fuck it up again?
I think so.

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I really want to find out if Shortened Fight breaks Quest like how Initial Time Advance breaks SR.

>>562976158
Sengoku has the advantage bar that you can manipulate, but I think of anything that having shorter fights helps with in quest.

>>562977031
The advantage of skipping every non-boss fight is obvious, surely?

>>562977121
If you could make it so that every fight instantly ends, then it basically becomes better escape, which does has utility for saving time and actions. Most people would rather be strong enough to end a fight in one or two moves and get the rewards from it, but there are some quests where it would be useful. No matter what though, you still have to beat a boss at the end of a quest, which takes a lot longer if you are skipping through all fights all the time.

>>562977121
Just hitting the bricks with escape spam is more consistent, that's all I used Crane for

>>562977914
The difference is that escape uses a resource. Instantly ending a fight does not.

>>562977872
Yeah, but if winning a non-boss fight costs me NOTHING then I'm able to put 100% of my resources into boss fights.

Sengoku Rance remake but the artist is Raita.
Upgrade?

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>>562978098
>blocks ur path

How many Brawlers would you need? 5?

>>562981896
battles have differing turn counts, the longer ones you won't instantskip even with 5.

>>562970956
People like it far more for the dominance aspect than the physical sensation, which is clearly inferior to the feel of a pussy.

>>562989378
says who?

>>563001135
My hut was broken into one day by a bunch of niwas like this. That was the last time I saw my Haniko.

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We want period accurate costumes?

>>563015768
The period is impossible to pin down since progress is stunted.

>>563015768
Whatever they are wearing in the games are period accurate because magic/engineering/Planner/shut up I'll have school girl outfits if I want them.

>>563016349
Well you're not wrong at all. Somehow the Continent has swords, tanks and spaceships being relevant all at once.

Why was Freak on Ylapu again? Did he live there, or was he looking for Hubert, or what?

Ah, another torture scene with Lia and Maris...what a foul note to end a session on. At least I'll have Shizuka to wash the taste out of my mouth the next time. H-scenes are so much more fun when they make you anticipate them a bit than when they just drop into your lap almost out of nowhere.

Weird thought, but how come every woman shaves in this pseudo-medieval world? Actually, I just found the idea of Shizuka also being green down there a pretty funny mental image.

Rhetorical question : why is it so entertaining when 2D women give you attitude, but not so much when it's 3D ones who do?

The battle of Red and especially the Tulip 3 was cool, but it was all so one sided that it didn't feel anywhere near as tense as the siege of Custom. Also what a time capsule Rovert is now.

The CG with the Tulip 3 and commander Rance might just be the best non-ero CG in the game so far, however. I thought he would be too hardcore for my liking when I started this series, and occasionally I still find him somewhat...disagreeable, but man, never a dull moment with this guy around. I love him.

What do the fiends want Chaos for, anyway? Insurance that they possess the only thing that can pierce the invincibility field, I guess. Hunty hinted at something besides Chaos being usable for that purpose as well, but that hasn't really been explained so far. She seems pretty cool, though. I'm almost starting to pity Patton, too. It never began for him with that bug antennae hair.

Cuhrayzee scientist Maria is a lot of fun.

>>563023492
Rance is a legend and Shizuka nakadashi is worth it

>>563023492
>I thought he would be too hardcore for my liking when I started this series, and occasionally I still find him somewhat...disagreeable, but man, never a dull moment with this guy around. I love him.

I was grinning like a little boy with each absurdity Rance gets up to. The way his atrocities lead to miracles being performed is utterly gut busting

>>563023492
>Weird thought, but how come every woman shaves in this pseudo-medieval world?
Anon that's just every post-2000 hentai. I don't know what happened at the time in Japan but not drawing pubic hair is the norm. Even so, other Rance games have pubes.

I wish lavender survived so she could be sacrificed by leaza incase they got invaded and used as bait in X

Also that scene the night before the battle of Red with Sill was really cute. I know she's a bit controversial but I guess I'm just a sucker for romance in my fiction. I don't think I could ever find it in my heart to not like her.

>>563024321
Ahaha, I couldn't help either but grin like a 12 year old playing FF7 for the first time when that moment happened, actually. Can't remember the last time a game got that sort of reaction out of me.

>>563024574
The weird thing is that as far back as I can remember I heard that their porn was sort of infamous in the west for preferring pubic hair well after us gaijins settled the matter on the shaven side in porn. Pussy is pussy either way, so it's not that I really care, but...I can't really imagine any women besides, uh, high class courtesans styling their pubic hair in premodern times. But who knows.

Also maybe I'm overthinking it, but if the fiends had such clear objectives as "kidnap Little Princess", "obtain the Holy Arms" and "kidnap at least one member of the Leazish royalty", why didn't they do any recon before the invasion so that they could achieve all of those goals before anyone had any time to react? It's like they decided to do it all on a whim. I guess they have Lia but clearly they expected to capture her parents as well.

Plus while the villain PoV is nice it makes some of the narration sound illogical. Like Satella having to explain who "her" is to Nos when they talk about Little Princess, or Patton having to internally explain to himself whose voice he heard, who Hunty is, and what's going on with the Sheilaites back home.

>>563027394
All Helman soldiers fap to Sheila (age 12)

>>563027394
They needed help from Helman and elements of the Leazas nobility that work working with Helman (Saya and her lot). Once all the preparations were done they had to pull the trigger even if Lia’s parents on a whim went elsewhere

>>563028216
But when I boot the game up that first screen says everyone in this game is 18 or older...

Also lol at Patton doing all this business with the Fiends and the invasion itself without consulting anyone back home. Is he afraid of getting murked by the Sheila faction or does Helman simply run on Ottoman rules where the legitimate successor is whoever remains the last heir standing, so he has to do something about her sooner or later? He said he's the crown prince, but...

At least when the fiends offered to do her in for him, he refused.

>>563028994
Not the case in Japan. Kanami is 16 in 03.

Patton is the son of a concubine. Sheila is the daughter of the empress. Patton is technically the crown prince but political forces are manoeuvring against him. His plan is to use his authority to get a military achievement to solidify his place.

Sheila faction is aware of what Patton will do but don’t think he will succeed

>>563028994
Patton was born to the actual emperor but since he was the son of concubine the moment Sheila existed he was basically cast aside. Rance 03 was his last chance at getting the throne

>>563028517
Since they are indestructible, overpowered and can teleport practically anywhere...did they really need Helman and the Leazish collaborators to begin with, to kidnap two people and snatch some items? I guess it will all be explained later.

If this was a horror game I could sort of see them being like the Cenobites from Hellraiser.

>>563029791
A succesfull outcome while allying with Patton and co leaves them with control over the two strongest human nations in the continent.

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>>563029620
I see. So he's basically a Temu William the Conqueror. Was he more afraid of what the fiends would have asked of him in return if he agreed to them killing Sheila for him, or did he have actual moral qualms about murdering his half-sibling? Or did he feel like it wouldn't have went over well back home, that they would see it as the ultimate bitch move on his end. Maybe all three.

>>563030293
Patton cares about Sheila but everyone else Is threatening to him

>>563030293
Patton actually likes his imouto when they were younger and got to hang out.
Politics are pushing them apart but none of it is Sheila's fault and she is still his cute little sister.

>>562941962
True perverts know that women are often sexier when they are dressed more modestly than they are when they show a lot of skin.

It should also be noted that visual feminine appeal is rather more like a combination of things than an exclusive matter of what's sexy. Like, cuteness or aesthetic beauty are also qualities which make a woman visually appealing but which are not sexual in character at all.

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>>563032178
I found Sen really sexy here

>>563032856
Where did you get this from? Is this a phone wallpaper?

>>563033362
Rance IX

>>563033432
I absolutely do not remember this

>>563025875
>I can't really imagine any women besides, uh, high class courtesans styling their pubic hair in premodern times
Shaving your pubic and armpit hair is explicitly mandatory in muslim tradition as it was stated in the Hadith.

>>563033504
Really? I found it memorable and after the JP IX release led to many posts about Kanami’s eye

>>563033615
tf r u talking about nigga

>>563033834
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/202827/removal-of-pubic-and-armpit-hair-why

>>563027394
Remember that the original Rance III was a hentai game released in 1991 and you’ll understand some of this.

>>563033834
religious nutjobs forbid anything sexy, nothing new about that

>>563032178
Based. I agree with everything in this post.

>>563032178
>True perverts know that women are often sexier when they are dressed more modestly than they are when they show a lot of skin.
True. I've been getting a hardon for kimonos as of late. I view them like gift wrappings on a present. On the flip side, I absolutely don't like microbikinis

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>>563034335
Microbikinis are trashy

>>563032178
It depends a lot on personality and appearance.
A slutty woman wearing a slutty outfit is just meh. You see a lot of skin but there's nothing special about it, that's just her normal state. But if you put a modest woman in a microskirt, uooh erotic. It feels forbidden, something you aren't supposed to see.

>>563035416
Truly enlightened pottery right here

>>563035416
in general I have threshold of nudity which upon being crossed, significantly reduces the eroticsim of the subject. Bikinis are the limit

>>563035416
I get what you're saying but the slutty outfit shouldn't be her default and there should be a good justification for her to wear it. I also agree with the anon who said that anything skimpier than a bikini just doesn't feel right.

>>562924842
They stopped doing it from Quest for Rance
With the only exception is 01 and 03

>>563033651
Was it during the 2nd tea ceremony for girls?

Which girls have good designs?

>>563044714
Something like that

>>563050360
Idk but X Magic is the worst one

>>563032856
Big titties in a kimono aside I would argue that this is beautiful but not really sexy.

However I also know ever since Persona 3 taught me that a major appeal of the kimono as an outfit is that women traditionally don't wear a single thing underneath it. So...maybe.

I also really like Japan's fondness for napes. The neck is very underappreciated in the west in general.

>>563034335
I agree with you on the microbikini thing. Not my thing at all, either.

>>563035416
I far prefer sexiness to be in character. If a woman shows off her body, it should be because she wants to do so, not because the author thinks his audience finds the embarrassment to be veeery moe. Tangentially related but I find this latter attitude where sexuality is simultaneously coveted and feared really immature, like, being an adult ideally should mean that you can handle giving and receiving intimacy in the right contexts with the right people with tact rather than imploding into yourself at its first signs like a 14 year old because you're simultaneously attracted to women but also repelled by your fear of emotional and physical intimacy with them.

>>563034014
Are eroge halal or haram? Do the different schools of islamic jurisprudence differ on this matter?

I must go to bat for skimpy clothes a bit. I won't contest that they are trashy more than erotic as something a girl character normally wears, and that a design that covers but shows a bit to get the imagination going is best, but if she's dressing up in skimpy clothes in private then it is very hot. There's also times where I just appreciate looking at a scantily clad character in motion when playing something, like Makoto in Blazblue.

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>>563054592
Well I'll play devil's advocate a bit harder, I can see the appeal in the imagination idea but nonsensical sexy clothes are simply sexy sometimes, and that's all.

>>563052490
Embarrassment is moe and based indeed. The problem is when a non-slut character wears a slut costume by default for no reason and she doesn't even seem to care.

>>563054592
I feel like a nice middle ground is 2B from Nier. With the skirt on, obviously. She's very sexy and shows quite a bit of skin but the dress itself looks very nice, too, like some sort of gothic bridal dress with the patterns on the dress, the feather-like sleeves and the gloves and all that. It's not trashy in the same way something like a gacha game design tends to be nowadays.

>>563050360
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>>562970956
Hearing "anaru sekkusu" in a japanese context makes it sound so much more dirty even though anal is plenty kinky by itself.

>>563055927
I just realized that I managed to say "dress" three times in the same sentence...how sloppy.

>>563055927
Yoko Taro actually had a specific aesthetic in mind, unlike gachas

>>563055554
It's true, but if a game leans into it too hard it becomes gauche and doesn't do anything for me. I feel nothing when I see nikke, azure lane, brown dust, whatever coom gacha you could pull off the catalog. Zero eroticism.

Good design: Code Geass plugsuits
Bad design: Muv Luv plugsuits

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>>563051197
I thought you found it memorable

>>563061531
The CG and Kanami’s eye

On the topic of Rovert, do any of the other Rance games reference western vidya?

Also why is 03 in fucking 4 by 3 ratio even though it came out in 2015...like, just why...I think Evenicle was in widescreen and that came out the same year as 03...

>>563062229
Rance 4:03

>>563063174
Kek.

>>563061623
Eye looks like the artist forgot to color the other one. What's so significant about it?

>>562951595
There's this picture going around now and again in Type Moon threads that goes something like "Fate designs when Fate was an eroge vs. Fate designs now that it's a gacha" and the eroge era designs all look very modest by anime standards. The most risqué thing is Rin's zettai ryouiki and Rider's design. While the gacha are all...you don't need me to tell you what they look like.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that eroge designs are often more modest than non-eroge ones are exactly because the existence of sex in the game world lightens the metaphorical load on the designer's shoulders when it comes to sex appeal and lewdness. They don't need to make the girls mega slutty, but gacha devs must, because the design and the voice actress is all the canvas they have to work with. Plus eroge that are really just visual novels with sex scenes usually have to conform to some semblance of reality, like the characters need to look and sound like they can exist in the society of their in-game world, while gacha ones tend to be much less bound by that sort of realism because any pretension of an in-game world is usually at best a painted-on scenery to the wish fulfillment fantasy scenarios.

>>563066263
Aren't chinese gachas very tame? I don't like how the characters look overdesigned and messy, but they don't feel oversexualized.

>>563066263
There are times to work lewdness into designs, and I think VNs are precisely the opposite of that. Both because of what you said, and that they are static pngs more often than not. Fighting games on the other hand are the perfect time to have some lewdly designed characters due to the over the top nature of the gameplay and setting and the physicality and motion of the girls. For the sake of variety, not all of them should be tits out, but people remember Mai Shiranui, Chun Li and Cammy for a reason.

>>563066263
Eroge can go and drop the clothes off, gacha can't. Still, eorge with more fanservy designs are a thing. Look at donuts donuts for a domestic example.

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>>563028216
Do they also rape each other as hazing like the real Ruskies?

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>>562988487
Yes, but what's the average?

>>563090657
dunno if anyone ever calculated that. Usually, people want to either kill their enemies with the least possible skill uses, or use rangers to avoid battles. With custom chars spezialized in this, you can have quite some battle avoidance power.

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>>563035416
>It feels forbidden,
Careful anon!

Feels like old /haniho/ today.

I beat Magnum and I feel underwhelmed somehow. Maybe it's because the ending is basically the same despite all the rigamarole. There was enough teased for the Helman one at least.

>>563093627
Full thoughts on Quest?

>>563095070
It's fun.
It started out frustrating, but became much more enjoyable once I had a decent number of party members.
The main things which struck me as memorable are Suzume's H-scene and Alice's scene. In the moment I was disappointed that the Goddess is distinct from the company mascot, but it's probably better this way. I really liked the main girls introduced in it. I wasn't expecting to like Crook at all around the midgame, but they did a really good job bringing me around to her by the end. She's also probably the best written in terms of gradually falling in love with Rance so far, and especially in a single game.
Gameplaywise, I'd place it just below VI (my favorite).
The ost was serviceable, but it's probably the worst to just listen to so far.

>>563098660
>VI above Quest
>VI above SR
Mad.

>>563101484
I don't really dig SR actually. By gameplay it may even be my least favorite besides 4.x and II.

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That's it. I'm grinding tonight to see if I can do the Brawler Shortened Fight thing.

>>563102376
Good luck to you

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I have no choice but to fail my objective. I have unblockable hentai.

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Funny and sexy at the same time, with CGs reused to create the illusion of animation. That's a good H-scene.

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That confirms that the game doesn't tell you that we're playing on Rance VI rules.

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What's the catch?

>>563107249
unique skills don't need catches

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>>563050360
Sen

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ITS OVER
NICE OST BTW

>>563052482
I can't believe they would nerf her forehead like that...

>>563106992
Does it not explicitly tell you that morurun increases the level cap? I thought someone brought that up in an event.

>>563108820
>Milli Menad Aten
Based grind king

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>>563111232
No. And besides, it doesn't. It only does so at the cap. It's Rance VI rules.

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Bed time after this. Will I get nightmares?

>>563111232
Tilde does, yeah.

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Found my new level 35+ girl.

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Can't believe I did that...

Goodnight!

>>562730881
wait there's games still coming out? I thought Alicesoft went under

>>563114581
Megadeth! Megadeth!

>>563116526
It's not gone under, but I wouldn't say there are games coming out.

>>563116751
I swear I heard something about them recently.

>>563116526
Just the english translation, which is in eternal editing hell. Rance X by 2030 maybe.

>>563116921
Probably the Rance games coming to Steam.

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>>563109341