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/mmg/+/inti/ - Megaman and IntiCreates General Anonymous 04/07/26(Tue)17:13:56 No.562851974 [Reply]▶
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#1272: Mallet And Bunny Edition
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This general is for the discussion of original, fan made, or look-alike Mega Man games as well as original titles developed by Inti Creates.
>/mmg/ news
Mega Man Starforce Legacy Collection has released https://youtu.be/PTct687LRmQ
Mega Man Dual Override announced for 2027 https://youtu.be/8i97QCOWSC4
Six Finalists have been chosen for Create-Your-RM Contest https://imgur.com/a/UROJnXW
Rockman EXE Phantom of Network PC Port
https://github.com/StraDaMa/PoN_PC
Sonic Racing Crossworlds DLC out now https://youtu.be/Klc21C20h7k
>Fan game news:
Mega Man X Viral Nightmare https://youtu.be/IQybCxyWk0U
Mega Man X Regenesis https://youtu.be/SfUl7diJSxI
Mega Man Maker https://youtu.be/gGUED-D8Kls
>/inti/ news:
Majogami out now, PS5 version releases on 5/28/2026 https://youtu.be/-j3Rl762aT4
Card-en-Ciel DLC out now https://youtu.be/rSDgP0yjIB0 + https://youtu.be/cMEuZH5eXoM
Kingdom's Return coming to all current consoles and PC on 4/23/2026 https://youtu.be/uOW6WmLpUkU
-Steam & Switch demo out now
Gunvolt Connect iX out now https://youtu.be/bLsJ-X9aX8o
Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 1+2 Dual Collection releasing for Switch 1&2, PS5 and PC on 7/9/2026 https://youtu.be/gvB2DzQ24Q4
>Other:
Translations of Classic mangas on mangadex
people have beaten SF1 amd are moving to the absolute kino next
>DiVE Links
rentry.org/xdaibu (game, emulators and other stuff)
>Koikatsu
rentry.org/mmgintikk
>Melt Stuff
rentry.org/mmelt melt 2 its real
>Game Downloads
rentry.org/mmglinks
Has all MM games, MN9, romhacks, patches + BN cia files
>Audiovisual Media
rentry.org/mmgintimedia
Contains:Cartoons, Anime, Comics, Manga and other printed media - Music Playlists and albums
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It isn't. You're just an idiot with a poor grasp on the English language. Ciel didn't make the Guardians, she made Copy X and he was notoriously a bum job. It's assumed that the one who made the Guardians from X's DNA was the one and the same who made the Mother Elf from reverse engineering Zero. It's not Ciel. It couldn't possibly be Ciel. She's at most 14 years old during the events of Z4 and Leviathan was created to clean of the oceans after the Elf and Maverick wars. That puts her age at 100 at the very least if not more.
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>Sonia after StarForce 1
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>>562828254
Traced?
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>>562862105
Look for a new idol? It's an industry after all.
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>>562852031
Moon impostor
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>read Luna's mind
>90% lewd sex thoughts about Geo, 10% everything else
And she can still function like a normal human being.
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>>562865239
>but... you ARE megaman
I love that line in that doujin a lot.
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>Limited Run
How are they still alive after the used chip fiasco and the game key fiasco?
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>>562868659
Cronyism and consumers still buying because they're hogs
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>>562862105
Is there any sort of retirement plan for an idol outside Roro graduating her brains out?
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>>562870031
>Those backgrouds
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>>562871006
Seems like it counts the default one
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>>562870031
Prez mogging everyone as usual with her superior socializing skills
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>>562851974
Good old Roll in a bunnysuit. One of the best things Mega Man has given us.
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>>562903315
La funcionaria publica tu ya sabes
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Wh...what did she mean by that?
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>>562905614
It's a 5 issue series so yeah it's ending.
>>562905990
The comics keep selling out in the west and japan. It did good but the series was only 5 issues.
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>>562906172
>soul echo uses last bit of awareness to hit on the guy who killed her
Why is Elise so horny?
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>>562906659
udon's physical only, so you need to fuck your copy up.
also, they may just print so little units that it sells out fast and as a matter of fact it'll be a hit. especially if they pay little for people who'll give anything to be involved.
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i mean it's not the greatest and west bad, but there are some avalible online, not counting also spic translationshttps://archive.org/details/@manamatmega
i don't know about what's the current number or whatever but better than saying nothing, i guess
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>>562907510
So GV just though of Elise as that horny sexy snake woman?
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>>562909413
He remembers her as a predator. >>562906172 is pretty rapey. Remember, she wanted to kill him, so she could then resurrect and sexually dominate him, all because he was nice to and seduced her submissive side. He does probably think she was pretty hot though. Despite the anime autism, GV does have a sex drive unlike Copen, and isn't completely clueless to girls, he just suppresses it.
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>>562915117
legend...
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What doubts is he talking about?
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>>562918363
Failing Joule. Killing others, especially those much weaker than he was. Also, he sympathizes to a degree with both Nova and Eden. It's why the Tenjian illusion caused him to choke up when it accused him of pissing on Eden's dreams or asked him how many more young ladies he'd killed since they'd last met.
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>>562927847
Booby lev is fake.
She is flat and that's good.
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Does this sum up the state of the fandom?
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>>562967610
>those hips
I guess you can see how adepts displaced normal humans in a hundred years.
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>>562967610
Look at that amount of drool. I'm still kissing her.
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>Gunvolt (Azure Dragon) = Lumen
>Copen (White Tiger) = Lola
>ZED (Vermilion Bird) = Luxia
>Xiao (Black Tortoise) = ?
So who was Xiao's muse meant to be?
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>>562968047
There's a very high chance that they might even hit menopause later in life if at all. And that's not mentioning how they develop the required hardware needed to safely and naturally deliver children at the age of 9.
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>>562968483
There's only one muse so far who didn't have an associated Shijin, and that was Pantera, but you know, she's dead.
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>>562969162
Cyber Dreamer works well for Pantera. Cyber Devil would work better with R0R0 since Acura calls himself a demon in the ending of GV2. Also, Darkness Trigger.
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The interesting is, since Septima isn't purely genetic and it's mostly a spiritual thing, you'll always have a minos population regardless of Zed's plan of I dunno having Sistina breed them our while he drives Layla around in his car.
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>>562968483
>>Copen (White Tiger) = Lola
There's a new white tiger in town.
iX is just iX.
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>>562851974
There is nothing new in the world of Leviathan lately.
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>>562973243
Can he not? He got sent back as a baby, can he even remember what happened?
That's just gonna be his existence, live, fuck up, get a do-over from a dragon fetus. Which makes me wonder if he has parents or is himself a work of the lifewave given form and life through a goddamn paradox.
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>>562973243
GV still sees them as assholes, but not irredeemable (except maybe Asimov). I don't know if he's made the jump to seeing them as desperate assholes for the most part over just being evil assholes though.
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>>562974832
>Can he not? He got sent back as a baby, can he even remember what happened?
Even if that's the case, Morb is with him. Shit's probably gonna change, first in small ways, then in big ones. Would be funny if he's just trapped in an eternal paradox loop though. Bet Xiao would love that.
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There are a couple of characters in the backlore who are hinted at being related to Gunvolt. Gunvolt had an antagonistic brother in the design document, who was later written to be Copen. Who knows. They're adepts. They're all orphans.
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I finished the Starforce Games in the Collection and was just wondering, were those three art pieces at the end of the collection credits newly drawn? I noticed one of them had Geo's High School outfit from that old art in it so, thought that was a cute nod.
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Allmost all collections have a wink and a hint that the story may continue... exept Zero and I'm glad for that.
>>562969657
Even in that pose and acting angry and edgy, Roro still manages to sneak a butt shoot. Trully an anal queen.
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>>562977315
Cheer up.
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Arguably the only thing pulled from BN is bringing back cyber companions for everyone but bringing back dungeons was a thing from SF1, the new card mechanics are nothing like BN and the noise system is the evolution of the tribe system allowing you to combine more than 3 different forms plus one super form equivalent to the tribe king.
And the remake of the combat worked in a way because dimming wars from BN are totally obsolete vs racking up noise normally which is the superior strategy.
If you mean plotwise it wouldn't be that different from SF2 anyway which was already rethreading story bits from Legend of Network.
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>>562981256
Adepts are just nuts. It's a very normal bodyshape. I don't think she's a bombshell, but she's decently cute.
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>>562981559
The average adept canonically has a great physique thanks to Septima. Grazie being so average makes her a landwhale by adept standards.
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>>562982481
Trap, and he's just 13. He'll probably bulk up in a year or two. Also, he still has pretty good arm definition despite being a no life gamer.
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Elise would have been his ideal GF.
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>>562984134
Once you go adept, you can't go back.
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>>562984371
I know the feel. Dry spell for me too.
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>>562984775
If that were the case there'd still be minos running around in GV3 instead of being a smal minority.
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>French kissed him with saliva trail
Sure. But even so, GV gets taunted near the end of the game about moving on and finding a new girlfriend by his guilt illusions, so GV might subconsciously feel slightly different about what sort of relationship he desires with Kirin.
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Snakes, breeding ball, but in reverse, and all the snakes are the same person.
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>>562981256
I prefer Kirin and Gunvolt to be friends, but it is the only equal relationship GV has with a female in the series, and the only one where they're both influencing each other to be better people. Kirin is the only one out there working side by side with Gunvolt, and gets far more convos with him than any other character. The others are all pretty one-sided, passive, and/or destructive in some way.
>GV/Joule
It's cute, but Joule is extremely dependent on GV. Like Desna says, she seems to enable a lot of GV's more destructive traits. GV has also firmly sister zoned her by the start of GV2.
>GV/Quinn
Quinn is extremely supportive of GV, but is too much of a mommy. The relationship feels like it's all take on GV's end. Quinn is not benefitting or growing much from the relationship (aside from having a hot and mysterious adept terrorist BF). Neither does GV grow either, since he isn't challenged (or more likely because Quinn barely participates in the story).
>GV/Any female enemy
Lolmao
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Meant for >>562985898
I have no idea how that got so badly mislinked.
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>>562990724
This guy gets it. They make for good buddies.
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>>562991719
They'd be a great couple, certainly better than GV and Quinn or Cope and Kohak, but I feel they'd be better as friends.
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>>562992032
>They'd be a great couple
I don't really see it.
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>same leitmotif as Maya
>same philosophy as Maya
Any connection?
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>They'd be a great couple
Only if Gunvolt never loses the dog form
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>>562990724
From the illusion battles and internal dialogue, I think GV might have a bit of a crush on Kirin, but I'm not sure how Kirin feels about him.
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>>562999665
I don't see it, explain.
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>Kirin saved me.
>Kirin gave me the motivation to go on.
>Kirin showed me the path I need to take.
And so on. Then there are both illusions accusing him of abandoning Quinn/Joule to move on to Kirin, accusing him of forgetting about them when the "next hot thing" came along, which seemed to be getting to Gunvolt. Kirin was a bit dense and not picking up on it though.
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Why are AI makers so afraid of him?
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End of the game, there's hinted to be a spark of something between the two of them if the reactions from Lumen and Shiron are anything to go off of.
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Another case of GV3 plot going full zoomer movie mode. You don't get to play the "will they do it" card when you open on a french kiss with saliva trail. Not even the Teen Titans cartoon could pull that one out, so they at least saved that for a flashback.
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>>563011819
I thought GV3's plot was pretty good as a standalone game. It had the most fun cast, mostly because they weren't background NPCs or die immediately, and we got to know and interact with them in the game proper (EDEN still has my favorite dynamic and characters, but we only get to see their shenanigans in a single drama CD). It had the best Gunvolt and Gunvolt character arc as well, because again, he had better teammates to bounce off of and get character development from. As a sequel to GV1/2, it did suck, and the stakes felt lower due to the dystopian themes being toned way down.
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>>563014683
GV3 sucks because it broke the one rule of Gunvolt and had a level set insunlight.
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>Suddently ayyyymao
The ayyy was introduced from the first appearance of ZED. It's why he was sending out Luxia to scout the Dragons in the first half of the game, so they could triangulate where the secondary source of dragon radiation was coming from (it wasn't just from GV).
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Think that somewhere out there there's a Capcom high executive lamenting that Luna never got a fighting mode.
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>>563018430
Blank cards codes used to be obtained from booster packs like e-reader cards or the prima guides, it's not like lotto or ciphers that you can obtain ingame.
You could just not use the strongest ones and start with the standard cards first. Just like with e-reader cards it's up to you.
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>>563014683
The character interactions are its strong point. The overall plot is obviously stitched together last minute and doesn't know where to go. I think Kirin being a merciful and hopeful character would have landed harder with a cast and setting seeping in despair like the first two games.
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I love Reploids and Adepts because I love bodysuits and bikini armor.
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>>563019991
Don't know what it is that causes the Lola songs to almost always end up falling flat.
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>>562952513
i forgot
but now that i saw here's some quick points i guess for the shown gameplay (i'm too lazy to use audio so it's all guessing)
>[EMPTY]kino, doesn't seem to be GVTE iX2,
>i might be getting alzheimer but base wheel seems to be a bit buffed than base iX2, but everything base seems the same
>NEW stat, wheel attack buff at 500+ kudos
>1000 Kudos seems to be the same, no visible content on golden overdrive
>That's it for now
So far what really surprised me it's the next GV/iX stream date (june 10), probably because may holidays giving a whole month break
Also last block of bokura kingdom promotion (i forgot that releases this month)that blank space also happening after bitSummit days, really means there is a chance of something getting announced before resuming iXshillingsurely
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Is there a rule that evil women are always sex goddesses?
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>So far what really surprised me it's the next GV/iX stream date (june 10)
That's after BitSummit and Inti's 30th anniversary.
Trust the plan
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>>563015883
luna is the cute vulnerable waifu you fight to protect, she doesn't need a fighting mode
would be cool though
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>>563019991
>10 years of butt bongo solos and ass focused posters
Man, time flies. How old is this general? 7 years?
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resident wheeltard here, base wheel does the same damage and seems to be the same speed but buffed wheel seems like it's doing about double damage or very slightly less on all gun hits locked or unlocked from what I've been getting in tests/kudos counting compared to the stream. he also has a dedicated unlock button now that got used at least once and made the same sound it did in connect ix
apparently people didn't know that everything in ix2 has hyper guard durability yet but it got mentioned on a stream for i think the first time, so there's that if you're a lorehead and didn't know
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oh and blah blah blah I think that's good because a lot of standard enemies have a very long time to kill in ix2 even relative to every other gunvolt game which are still very tanky compared to megaman which slows the pacing down blah it means walk wheel dash wheel suddenly becomes very good among other things blah it's still not mmz dash jump slash spam though blah
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>>563021835
Ironically, there is and it's called the Doronjo rule.
>>563025562
Can't fall flat like the other idols with those curves.
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EviLev
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Something else from /sthg/
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So aparently the UK is about to ban dogs because the muslims are very, VERY afraid of them. More especifically their body fluidsof which Kirin is addicted toIt would have been very interesting to factor that into Kirin's and Gunvolt's interactions with Zed.
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>>563020467
Yeah, best bants, weakest plot, which is okay. Vidya writing can suffer a bad plot if it has decent character writing. The older games had fun characters too, but it didn't matter much if most of it was confined to side material, and you only got a sliver of it in the actual game. The GV3 cast actually get to have conversations with each other and story impact beyond:
>I'm a quirky obsessive anime stereotype with a dark twist and hints of a fucked up backstory.
>Grr, I'm going to kill you.
>DIES
They feel like an actual cast of characters rather than just a march of random MM bosses to kill or home base randos you never bother with.
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>>563030752
Aside from special characters like Forte or the Guardians, you have to go to BN/SF and Legends to get reoccurring villains. GV characters are probably closer to Legends characters in feel and personality though, even if the settings are almost completely opposite in tone.
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>How many Mega Man stage bosses where more than just cannonfodder?
Just the ones from MMX1, because they were X's former teammates and were in the OVA.
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Endor Granados
https://baraag.net/@Endor_gr/116355605346893093
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Capcom (and a lot of Japanese devs at the time) were 100% sure that X box and Play Station cinematic experiences and online games were gonna destroy Nintendo and then the rise of mobile games for moms made them extra sure that they were finished. And that's not all, according to the leaks (and that now we know that they were true) Sony straight up put all it's eggs in the PS5 basked because of course it was the safe bet for that gen.
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i wonder if those same people are even working at capcom considering the state of the gaming world. can't believe this shit happened 20 years ago. we got Powered Up and MHX alongside MM9 instead of ZX3 and Legends 3.
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It's really obvious Gunvolt has fallen for Kirin by the end of the game. For instance, INTI literally went back and patched in a scene where GV is "dying," and his final thoughts are "Kirin... meeting you... saved me. I wish I could see you one last time," which is absolutely the most romantic thing Gunvolt has ever done. Of course, he's not dying, but he's losing consciousness and thinks he is, so it still counts.
Kirin's feelings towards GV are more ambiguous, but she gets a few lines during the final fight where she's shouting about how "we decided to build a future together." She might not be picking up on GV's signals, since Kirin seems to be romantically clueless, except when it comes to BB and Prado.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It adds a lot of nice bittersweetness to GV3's ending. I always liked those sorts of tragic unfulfilled romances.
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No. GV was turned into a baby and returned to the GV1 era, likely causing a timeline split. The distance between the two is insurmountable without some iX dimension hopping insanity.
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>>563034982
>Kirin... meeting you... saved me. I wish I could see you one last time
That would kill Gibril, Elise, or Joule if they heard it directed at them.
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Yeah...not to mention that knowing about Shadow Yakumo from the get go will change how Gunvolt can approach Sumeragi in many ways.
>"Hello temple of of expendable mikos, would you take a moment of your day to follow me into these two underground facilities"
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Elise melting like nothing from a hug and a headpat while Evilise is off to the side going "Are you kidding me!?"
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a) Octima shenanigans give him adultish intelligence as a baby (because canonically, higher lifewaves can make children extremely precocious/competent)
b) Morb talks to him.
c) Dreams, visions, and flashes (sort of like Mytyl)
d) The memories return when he's "ready"
e) He never remembers, but having extra powers alters his fate.
f) He never remembers, doesn't have extra powers, and is trapped in an eternal torment loop.
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There's no telling what state SY is in in the GV1 era. The Sumeragi in GV3 is very different from the one in GV1, afterall. Could be that Sumeragi has them completely sidelined or underthumb, and the damage GV/Eden did was what allowed them to assert more independence. Could be that SY and Sumeragi are intertwined, with the SY leadership being in lockstep with Sumeragi. Could be that SY are a bunch of Copens. Who knows?
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>1. [NS2] Pokemon Pokopia – 45,484 / 867,171
>2. [NS2] Mario Kart World – 8,131 / 2,888,474
>3. [NSW] Minecraft – 5,186 / 4,182,507
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Roro is very productive. She produced most of the minos that kept Asimov war going, and produced more gravure shoots than Lumen.
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It was romantic from Joule's end, not GV's. GV sisterzoned Joule hard.
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You're in luck because SF4 is a never-ever. The staff isn't even the same to make it anymore. This collection is the last official huzzah for the Star Force franchise as a whole. Fans will have to do fan games if they want more.
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I have been in bed for over a week and then some. How was the Star Force collection?
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Rather dissapointing. I was expecting a full on punitive war between the moonfags and the sunfags but they are old and need antidepressants and antiacids to even be able to get out of bed so Moonfags won without much of a fight. Not like they had much of a fight inside them either.
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Thought it was implied from Asimov's situation in iX that GV was turning into a monster because his septima was consuming the souls of other adepts he killed (specifically eating Asimov's septima). You can actually see pieces from other adepts on GV's dragon form (Lumen, Zonda).
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>>563036321
His enemies are right when they accuse him of being a ladies man. GV seems to be the type who only has room for one lady in his heart, even if fate keeps conspiring to force him from woman to woman.
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Everyone here says that Quinn is GV's true rabu, but she always felt like an afterthought, someone who existed just to make Joule seethe and provide a normie minos to contrast the anime brained adepts against. The romantic development between GV and Quinn happens mostly offscreen. Even their first meeting happens in side material, not the game proper.
Neither does she have that much narrative chemistry with GV; she's just not that interesting to talk to, because again, she's just a well-adjusted normal nice girl with a normal nice girl background, personality, and interests like cooking and school and not in a whacky/obsessive way like an adept (you could say she's got the lonely rich girl angle to make her standout, but that barely comes up).
As the audience, we focus on where the relationship drama is, and it's not in Quinn and GV. In comparison, there are plenty of big story moments between GV and Joule, or GV and Kirin, and GV and Kirin especially have great banter and rapport. GV and Kirin feel like the most equal, positive, and mutually supportive of the different relationships, and they hero worship each other throughout the game, with GV becoming the more enamored one towards the end. It doesn't get much more romantic in anime than thinking about a girl and saying "It sure would be nice to meet you again" as you fade away. I can't think of anything said to Quinn or even Joule that has the same weight.
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>Everyone here says that Quinn is GV's true rabu
We say that because we're pessimists, and shōnen has a long tradition of pairing the hero with the weakling background NPC character who is offscreen in the kitchen for 95% of the anime rather than the chick with a colorful design and personality who is putting her life on the line every episode fighting by his side or the dangerous and exotic villainess who oozes sensuality and wants his babies.
We're probably following Locke anyway, and Locke had a new girl for every story arc, mostly because circumstances and time ripped him away from love interests. Either that, or Tsuda gets tardwrangled and the Gal*Gun roots of Gunvolt assert itself, and we get a very vicious, desperate GVBowl with one very confused and uncomfortable Gunvolt.
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>Do you see Joulie playing nice with anybody else?
Joule talks a big game when it's a minos doormat like Quinn but will fold like tissue paper to any adept stacey.
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In GV3, Kirin has her completely cowed, and Kirin doesn't even know it. Zonda would own her (see pic related). DommElise would annihilate her. She would not be able to handle Mytyl's spicy bants. About the only adept I can see her pushing around would be Weak Elise (Domme wouldn't let it happen), andGibril.
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>asked him how many more young ladies he'd killed since they'd last met.
Never understood why GV3 implied Gunvolt feels bad for killing Zonda. He seemed really pissed at her in GV2. Other than having a cute design, she didn't do much to earn sympathy.
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GV having some regrets about Eden makes more sense with the "hidden" lore that the conflict between adepts and normals wasn't resolved even by the time of 3.Not to mention the earlier concept where the timeskip was only like 10 years and Grazie knew Tenjian she was a kid. GV was probably gonna get way more flak as the "destroyer of the adepts' saviors/haven" in that one.
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>>563083617
As others have pointed out many times in past threads, she's the victim of 8-4 localization vandalism. She's a lot less nefarious and more genuine in the original script, and there are a many parallels the game draws between her and Tenjian's situation and GV/Joule and Copen/Mytyl. She comes off as desperate, never hateful or malicious, and she's even empathetic to a degree to Copen in his route (seeing her desire to "save" her kind reflected in him). Her last lines after getting strizer'd are crying out for her brother (who Gunvolt killed). So Gunvolt still feeling like shit for it, even if it was necessary, and Serpentine picking at it, makes sense.
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Half the times, Gunvolt will autistically substantiate the anime tropes with actual lore explanations (aka FM's blurb about how people attuned with 6th Waves or higher are capable of sometimes manifesting supernaturally high intelligence and athleticism). This leads to conflicts like some of the Sumeragi execs, who are normies, opposing Nova being in charge of the Defense Unit because of his age whereas others are in support because he's a super-competent adept, whereas in a normal anime, it'd never even come up. The other half, it's just taken as anime lol.
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Seems like in GV3, if you're a nonadept, you're either stuck living an okay-ish life in one of the futuristic adept supercities (you'll be a minority and anything above middle class will be out of reach to you unless you marry into it), moved to the reserves, or live a primitive life in the wilderness.
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kalinka had the hots for protoman that even Roll herself felt repulsed or a robot master sings a song about himself being a tool for something else that's not part of his occupation.
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>>563083617
Canonically, Zonda was the last person GV killed. He swore it off after her. I think it did affect him a lot, even if he doesn't talk about it.
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>>563088958
I want to argue this, but the sex robot market in the iX timeline was male robots for adept women so who knows maybe the Shampoo expy would prefer the background NPC over Ranma. Which just sounds wrong and I can't really accept it either.
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>>563083617
Killing Pantera is fucked up, even if it needed to happen to save nonadepts.
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It was the last straw. Killing the G7, then purging Belladen seemed to have taken a lot out of him, especially the soldiers suiciding themselves against him to save noncombatants. He starts the final level hyped up for righteous violence, but he starts feeling terrible as he goes through it, and Xiao has to motivate him to push onward. You get some really trippy and OOC introspective dialogue about 2/3rds of the way in from GV about how he's Orpheus descending into Hades, and if he looks back at what he's done, he'll lose his wife just to show you how much its fucking with him.
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>even if it needed to happen to save nonadepts
How'd that turn out? All it dkd was get more adepts killed as they lacked the means to defend themselves, as well as the mass killings of nom-adepts that wanted to treat them as human beings. Enabling this monstrous system to contine for decades is evil.
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>>563088958
Literally have GV, BB, ZED, and countless male adept goons thirsting for femaleor female-lookingadepts in GV3.
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>skin tone
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Considering the state of the world by the time of GV3, pretty okay. Even with the dragon shit (which would eventually get resolved), I'd rather live in GV3's world than the real world, even if I'd be a stinky no-gf minos there.
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They stop in the timeline where GV offs himself on Kirin's metal stick, but they stick around when he's a baby sent back in time. There's no guarantee they will stop or how long it will take for it to stop.
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Nonadepts still make adept babies. If most babies born from a union with at least one adept is an adept, and if half of children born from a union between nonadepts are adept, then adepts win the breeding game, as they have been doing in GV3.
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>Elise goes up several cupsizes when she transforms
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Zed, just because your minos dad is bossman and you're assmad about it because you can larp as a nightlight nd all he does is plap your mom that looks like an Inuyasha villain doesn't mean you get to be a bitch about it.
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I didn't think it effected Volt so deeply at the end of gv2. He seemed to brush off killing the cute gaki and be relief to be done with it and they don't really make it a big point that she was his last kill before he went pacifist in gv3. They didn't comment anything more about GV feelings about her death until Zedo's palace, where suddenly he is supposed to have been carrying around enough trauma over Zonda where Serpentine's septima picks it up as a 'I failed Joule' or 'I was a terrorist who bombed innocents' level regret to use against him.
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>armed phenomena enhances adept sexual features
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>>563102219
It's fun. Also, GV bills itself as having a sprinkling of LN elements, and LN audiences are notoriously autistic.
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>>563102219
It is internally consistent anime nonsense and a piece of media needs to take its world and narrative just a little bit seriously for dramatic moments to hit. The term 'storycuck' is thrown around here a bit, but story is one of the most important aspects of any media as it contextualizes everything you see, hear, feel and do. Even the purest “anime bullshit” still needs to read the room and meet expectations.
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GV3's plot was kinda mediocre, but it does flesh out a lot of the metaphysics (aka, introduce what was in the side material into the game proper), and the character arcs and interactions are the strongest in the series. Plot ain't everything, especially in vidya. Memorable vidya writing comes down to good character writing more often than anything else.
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There's not much to analize in Hamlet. It's just a slapstick comedy about british people doing british things, like killing someone's parents and serving them in a pie to their son. Classic british humor and classic british cusine.
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Who left the Luna 3D printer in wumbo mode?
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>>563036941
Something people are forgetting is that GV/Morb's septimosome was shattered, which would massively nerf Gunvolt. Meaning that if/when he shows up again, he's won't be no diffing Nova, Zonda, Copen, or Xiao without some effort. INTI is one step ahead of you guys, for once.
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Nice, 3d prez is almost here
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iX kinda broke the rules by showing what adult Cope would look like. Aside from that, maybe it's a callback to MMX, where X is supposed to look and mentally be 14 for the first half of the series. Unlike Gunvolt, X actually "grows up," or whatever the reploid equivalent is. His voice and looks definitely mature over time.
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People start writing dissertations whenever GV's love life, GV's morality/guilt-tripping, or Pantera comes up.
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Too bad for you that GV felt bad over having to do it, so he'll find another way to deal with her on the do-over.
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Bout that. They won't survive the coming US-Iran oil fuck-up, as Japan like most Asian countries sources a lot of oil through the straight. I really do want to see one more GV game thoughand not a Copen game.
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>World War 3 starts
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>Belezuela
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Please don't inject the horrors of reality into my hobbies. I'm trying to ignore them.
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How did you manage to spend this long free of that? So far the only hobby that I have left without feeling that is Yu-Gi-Oh. Even Card En Ciel and Flamefrit were filled with "we wish we could do this, and we know you would like it, but we can't or else this isn't gonna be on anything but Nintendo of Japan store".
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Guess the story autism chased everyone out.
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>>563139182
Brother please, our leaders are complete sellouts that are gonna destroy the gulf of California for US oil.
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There's the megaman world, the girls frontline world, and the gunvolt world.
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>>563150212
Worth it.
>>563155051
GV3 has a little fluff, and there's always fanfic what-if bullshit.
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It's a joke about first, second, and third world.
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I saw that GV3 has anti fluff. It came out with the lamest responses to all the loose plots of 2. I also makes what should have been the new big bully in town (Shadow Yakumo) feel more like Kirin's delutions.
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>>563156484
People use slut as an insult yet sluts will give you a chance and are relaxed. They shouldn't be so hated.
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It has actual fluff too.
>I also makes what should have been the new big bully in town (Shadow Yakumo) feel more like Kirin's delutions.
(You) problem, anon. A really dumb one too.
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>>563157175
Well you can't lewd Roll anymore so it fits.
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>Sumeragi good actually
I'm not fond of Kirin considering Elise, Stratos, the suicide power vest Gibril stole, or how the world is ending because they blasted the world with magic rage cancer to sell electricity and she's a massive shill and apologist for them.
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>I'm not fond of Kirin considering Elise, Stratos, the suicide power vest Gibril stole, or how the world is ending because they blasted the world with magic rage cancer to sell electricity and she's a massive shill and apologist for them.
I'm alright with Kirin being a Sumeragi shill, it's the most depth you're going to get out of her in GV3.
Kirin's main charactization problem as opposed to GV and Copen is that she doesn't have much to begin with. She has no real beliefs or motivations of her own beyond some cookie cutter sense of duty and justice. They forgot to make her a character. We're never shown what makes her tick, what she likes, doesn't like, cares about, etc. We got plenty of that for GV and Copen, everything those two believe and subsequently do makes sense within the context of their character. Kirin is literally just doing her priestess duty and that's about it. She was done dirty
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>They forgot to make her a character. She was done dirty
Agreed. I like her, I like what she's got, but there ain't much there.
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Imagine introducing not only a brand new main character but also a brand new faction and then just not doing anything with it. Kirin and Shadow Yakumo have such ripe potential from both a writing and world building perspective. The occult aspect of Gunvolt has always been there and they had an opportunity to really flesh out that aspect of the lore out more, but they just DIDN'T
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The plot to fucking Card Incel being "We made waifus real but this made MATHEMATICS destroy the universe" is insane.
Almost as insane as "Ancie can be literally your vidya waifu irl but she'll literally die of entropy if you leave her alone.
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>>563159627
What we can piece together of Kirin's backstory is that she was:
>sheltered and lonely
>raised somewhat traditionally (see temple level dialogue)
>naive country girl
>likes cute things
>very lawful, very good, but likes a good fight sometimes
>probably related to Maya because they share the same musical leitmotifs
But yeah, there really should be more background there. I know that SY is meant to be a super secret ninja miko club, but Kirin still has living family unlike Copen and GV, so it's weird that it's just completely ignored, even if Kirin has a very focused, dutiful personality. Aside from that, I do like the idea of her. A playable character who flips the bird to the kill or be killed mindset that causes so much grief and encourages the edgy assholes around her to be better is a great concept for Gunvolt.
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If another non-Copen Gunvolt game happens, what sort of playstyle would you like to see for the blue man?
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Take ZED, give him more range utility, and replace his melee attack moveset with smaller/targeted versions of luxcaliburs, dragonspheres, crashbolts, and voltaic chains.
As much as some psycopaths may want it, I don't think we are ever going back to the tag and flash system, because arc chaining is so much more fluid and fun, and feels so much more thematic. Kudomaxing back in GV1/2 with Gunvolt made you feel like you were playing a retard, whereas you feel like an unstoppable anime god if you kudomax in GV3.
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Dragon Saviors from the epilogue are probably going to beat up the Sumeragi Swordsmen or G7 on average. Powerscaling is almost always whack. How do you place Elise, for instance, who is immortal and would have just worn down Gunvolt had Copen not intervened? BB might be able to beat herby seducing herwith his instakill, but that's about it.
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I think that the easiest comparision is Zed vs Jota. Basically the same power but Zed has at least 100 times the output.
Then again I don't think that it is so clear cut because Zonda also felt like something that could put down a dragon.
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>>563197845
Lorewise, Zonda is right behind GVMorb as the strongest boss in the franchise, only losing because of inexperience and Joule fucking her up from the inside.
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It's coming along.
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Possibility of Xiao or Desna interference here? For instance, GV may all be "Great, I'm gonna go collect muses," only to find that Zonda never left Belladen.
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>Zed calls Layla ATEMS's priestess
Someone explain how "Mm" girl is like a priestess in any way.
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Layla was gonna be connected to Zonda or something in the early drafts, back when ATEMS was partially made up of surviving EDEN members. Probably a Joule to Mytyl sort of situation. There's concept art of her with the Zonda hair and design motifs where they titled her "Mysterious Girl" (the same title they gave to Zonda). Zonda = Priestess of EDEN => Layla = Priestess of ATEMS. So it's just INTI making a callback to the first draft before they rewrote everything last minute.
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Sexiestand cutestATEMS knight, but it comes with being the Elise. Did you that originally, she'd have been the zombie master, like Elise and Gibril? Unlike those two, it'd have been through mindcontrol.
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GV3 version works well enough since they made his lightning work more like a homing projectile than HP drain, remove arc chain and make him less OP and you're all set.Or just keep his GV2 gameplay, nothing wrong with that one.
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>tag enemy
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>deplete health of strong enemies so all enemies have roughly same time to kill
>kite as many enemies into range as possible
>delete for huge kudo spike
We'd be going back to the above playstyle for Gunvolt, which would really suck.
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The issue with arc chain (and Copen, for that matter) is that it completely negates the jump part of the Jump N' Shoot Man game formula. GV's limited mobility and toolkit forces you to engage with the level and enemies. By becoming a DmC sidescroller with GV3, Gunvolt has forgotten its roots.
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I don't think you can really move enemies around in GV3 the same way you did in GV1 and 2 since even tapping the flashfield button already kills the zakos so you wouldn't really need to stop as much to maximize your kudos. Plus getting the multikill and full strike bonuses at the same time would also be easier and quicker since you'd be able to just press the flashfield button once and then move the tags around instead of waiting for the weaker enemies to die first. So at least in my head it would be a simplified but also more dynamic version of the old GV gameplay, a bit like the jump from GV2 Copen to iX Copen.
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>>563151009
Would be fun to see Gunvolt interacting with the weirdos from GV1 and 2 when they aren't trying to kill each other.
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And that's not rare over there.
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>Layla was gonna be connected to Zonda or something in the early drafts, back when ATEMS was partially made up of surviving EDEN members. Probably a Joule to Mytyl sort of situation. There's concept art of her with the Zonda hair and design motifs where they titled her "Mysterious Girl" (the same title they gave to Zonda). Zonda = Priestess of EDEN => Layla = Priestess of ATEMS. So it's just INTI making a callback to the first draft before they rewrote everything last minute.
Man, what could have been.
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GV3 rebooted everything with Dragon Baby Jesus, so if you get a new game (it won't be called GV4), Zonda and all the other clowns will likely be alive. You can see where INTI wants to take the story if they ever pick things up again through >>562918363 >>563083617 >>563036191 . Gunvolt can only save the world by forcing everyone to work together. So any further game is going to involve Grampvolt playing therapist to a bunch of deranged chuunibyous through vigorous application of electroshock and Skill:Talk.
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>>563151009
Missed one post >>563220713 here, but put them together, and they give you a good idea of the thrust of the next arc, at least at the moment Tsuda finished GV3 and Epilogue ATEMS. INTI has a habit of pivoting on a dime, so who knows if they stick with it. After all, they dropped almost all the of the lingering plot treads from GV2 and iX1 in their respective sequels.
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They're still adding new lore to GV1 and GV2 adepts, so they're probably considering reusing them.
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Zonda's VA has come down in price and they can still use Nova. Those are the two most important ones. Gibril's VA still wants to voice Gibril. Elise is cheap. Teseo, Merak, and Tenjian are still available. If they can't nab a VA, they'll write around the character or just recast like they did with Copen.
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Even if Pantera was affordable Inti feels like they can't make a horny loli in a game anymore.
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>what was literally nothings because they're a jpg from a fake game
Also Rafaela wasn't a loli. Maybe she should have been.
If anything you'd think Miho from flamefrit shows there's still an appreciation, especially now as the veil of lies lifts and freedom looms with the fall of empire.
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>>563206946
Xiao, maybe. Desna, probably not. Star reading in GG/GV is only effective if you have sufficient info of the target, or have divine intervention/get lucky. Otherwise, it just gives you vague vibes. Desna was lucky, then very unlucky. She got a vision in Eden's Party during a trance that Eden were on the wrong course and about to cross over to the dark side, but was knocked out of the vision during some slapstick and promptly forgot about it. Afterward, she had no more visions, so no more opportunities to course correct. Besides that, Desna is acting in the best interest of humanity, not Zonda and Eden, even if she loves them. If she did get a vision, it may show that GV beating up Zonda is for the best.
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Her original form isn't all that horny anyway, just her projections. Any game that involves her as friendly would show off her sillier and more naive side seen in Eden's Party.
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>I'm not fond of Kirin considering Elise, Stratos, the suicide power vest Gibril stole, or how the world is ending because they blasted the world with magic rage cancer to sell electricity and she's a massive shill and apologist for them.
Sumeragi is still fucking terrible in GV3, they're just doing it to foreigners now instead of their own citizens. There's a reason why they're hated internationally.
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Yay for imperialism, I guess? I think you're misremembering that convo though. They do it to any criminal. At least they aren't just plucking random teens off the streets like they did with GV, Elise, Nova, and Stratos, I think. Nonetheless, Sumeragi's human experimentation division still being around is sick.
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Fortune-tellers and their little priestesses.
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How is the Cope in the Striker Princess Mytyl universe holding up?
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>will gunvolt even meet Kiriin again?
probably no, tho the dlc end with zed giving kirin the only remaining spirit piece of gunvolt to protect so that might be chekov's gun to connect kirin back to him without making it complete bullshit, or it could just be more xiao.
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How anime?
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>>563235998
Bad. Men don't exist in magical girl animes.
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So she's gonna scream his name when she's with another dog? While BB watches of course.
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>>563239515
Not true: bishounen love interests and homosexuals exist in magical girl animes. Also sometimes you get a sighting of a glup shitto in the background moving like a bigfoot on a trail cam.
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>>563235998
On the one hand, his sister isn't slowly dying, and she's beating up adepts. On the other hand, she's an adept, most of her friends are adepts, and she's probably not actually killing the adepts she fights.
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Extremely so.
Also kinda halfway done.
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No, it's a newhalf.Newhall. This is a trap.
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Here's Nun Roru.
No idea for an "extra" edit though, but enjoy.
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>even a loser nerd adept like Elise has some muscle definition
How does Grazie fail so spectacularly?
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>dem toned arms
>dat fit bod
>all on a gamer gril
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>>563245125
Another great Roll anon. You are doing the lord's work...in more ways than one.
>Edit
How about this? Or catgirl ears and tail to reference Felicia.
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>>563246440
Looking at Filia from Skullgirls as an example, I can say that she must eat sugar and borgars like there's no tomorrow to overtax her anime genes. She should be blind an missing a leg if she wasn't an adept.
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Oh. Fine work. I haven't seen anybody make church of Roll fanart since the original drawfag half a decade ago.
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>>563247216
Looks cute!
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Thank you.
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>>563248138
Once again, you are doing the lord's work, anon.
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But it wasn't, most people are married to robots by the time of ZX.
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That's the excuse because Roll couldn't do what Ciel did.
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Here's what she'd canonically look like without esper genes. Kind of funny since GV rips off a tremendous amount from Toaru. The premise of GV1 is basically just the Toaru movie, but edgier and more depressing.
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Tear are rolling off my eyes at the sight of sister Roll.
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>Kind of funny since GV rips off a tremendous amount from Toaru.
https://youtu.be/8if4nVVtwUs
Despite To Aru being far less mean spirited, they do taste the same.
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>I'm pretty sure Stratos was in part an experiment to see how much abuse an adept could take before it left a lasting impact on his body.
Yeah, he was supposed to be some sort of pretty boy athlete before Sumeragi nabbed him and started drugging and starving him, and he still doesn't look that bad, just crazy.
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They're a bunch of orphans with tragic backstories and a found family vibe. They have very quirky personalities that play off of each other perfectly. They support one another, joke around and prank each other, and are just fun and interesting.
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Yeah, the amount of backstory and character nuance is wild. For instance, Gibril turns out to one of the more empathetic Eden members, so is the one who gets the most enraged when she sees things like slaughter pits. Yet Zonda stops her from going on rampages as "it wouldn't solve anything." In combination with her first kill being her dad, who she killed with the blood of her own mom after he beat her to death, this is why she's so gleefully violent in GV2 when let off the leash. Zonda in the side material alternates between being wise and cunning to as naive and silly as her age would suggest (like going to Teseo for life advice). Desna had an entire anime season of heroics saving people across Eurasia after leaving home to protect her minos parents from adept hunters before ending up in Eden.
Each of them has a short story background that ties into the setting and will cross over with each others' stories or the stories of characters from the first game at points. For instance, the mysterious guy that gives Elise pointers about her septima in her backstory turned out to be Teseo, which ended up indirectly leading her to abusing it in online games as an outlet for getting bullied, which then led to Merak noticing it (who coincidentally is hacking rivals with Teseo, but never found his connection to Elise) and kidnapping her.
Reading the background lore makes GV feel a little like anime Walter White stumbling into this setting with all these moving narrative parts and just smashing everything and killing everyone. It's kind of ridiculous. Maybe that's why they'd rather reboot Gunvolt with the cast from the first two games back rather than continue time skipping around.
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GV3 still has some edge to it (like Sistina's implied background, human experimentation, Gunvolt actually feeling massively guilty for having to kill a kid at the end of the last game) but it's not as in your face. Besides, a Gunvolt game where the MC is defying the edginess of the setting and inspiring others to be better people can be compelling as well, especially in this day and age.
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>Gunvolt actually feeling massively guilty for having to kill a kid at the end of the last game
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I say that it is sort of refreshing how cold and impersonal it was for Gunvolt in contrast to Eden. Even back then things like Warhammer were starting to chicken out of killing named characters and changing things forever (and then woke rolled up and made us wish to go back to the times of stagnation) so seeing Gunvolt do that with so little fanfare was very cool at the time.
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I love to hate how unsympathetic and vengeful Gunvolt was towards his enemies. He just learned Zonda's past and what motivates her not too long ago, and now as she's dying, her final words are of how she let her nakama down. She's crying out for her brother, and all he do is to contemptuously tell her that she "lost because Joule would never do anything for somebody like you!"
Most other heroes would try to comfort her, or at least feel a bit sad. Despite everything she did, there was no maliciousness in her act. She was doing it out of a belief that this was the only way to save adeptkind, and at the end of the day, she was just a brainwashed kid, in fact the youngest member of the cast.
I especially love how the side material will usually focus on the villains, making them more likable and sympathetic so that GV being an asshole to them lands even harder. Like yeah, they deserve it, but you can't help but cringe and hope that somebody would save them from themselves. You can extend this to any sympathetic villain, like Elise, where any empathy Gunvolt had for her goes out as soon as she reveals her glaive. He's a complete asshole to her, and it's great. When they meet again in Babel, she tells him she can't resist the control of her dominant personality, and his response to her is to "just die."
Like a lot of changes GV3 made to Gunvolt, I feel a bit mixed about retconning Gunvolt to feel bad about his enemies. Apparently, GV3 implies that the Garden was such a bad experience for Gunvolt that he never killed anyone ever again after Zonda. The retcons remove one of his defining personality defects: his rage and lack of empathy for those opposed to him. Yet it also gives him a lot of character development, and the cast of GV3 was far more enjoyable because they weren't dropping like flies and played active roles in the story. This despite the GV3 characters having less interesting personalities/backgrounds than GV1/2.
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>Besides, a Gunvolt game where the MC is defying the edginess of the setting and inspiring others to be better people can be compelling as well, especially in this day and age.
You're really speaking my language. This is exactly what I wanted out of Kirin. Didn't really get it, but the desire remains.
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I just hate it.
>Like a lot of changes GV3 made to Gunvolt, I feel a bit mixed about retconning Gunvolt to feel bad about his enemies.
That could be something that developed over time. In the moment he was vengeful and spiteful, but latter when his blood isn't running hot he gets introspective and starts wondering if he did the right thing. You could say that itself is OOC, but between killing Zonda, losing Lumen/Joule for good, going through Quinn healing and eventually hurting her? Characters develop.
Like, killing a little girl and mocking her as she cries for her brother as she dies is a lot. That's a Cope move, and GV's decidedly not Cope. I could easily see him regretting that.
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Timeline got split by alien dragon baby at the end of GV3. Gunvolt was turned into a baby and sent back to the point of his birth for another try (>>563151009). Gunvolt's septimsome was shattered in the process, meaning that he lost most of his power (>>563123982). According to the patched ending, the only way he can save the future is either by killing himself or tardwrangling everyone (>>563036191).
For years, it was joked on here that INTI employees were pissed off at Tsuda for the way he used their OCs in GV2. If we take that theory into account, then that makes a ton about GV3 make more sense, especially the ending where GV1 and GV2 were basically wiped out and all the characters resurrected for a mulligan.
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GV3 is crap because it doesn't acknowledge this correctly even though ZED is right there.
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>Like, killing a little girl and mocking her as she cries for her brother as she dies is a lot. That's a Cope move, and GV's decidedly not Cope. I could easily see him regretting that.
It probably felt good in the moment, too, which added to his horror later on. Maybe one of the reasons why it's placed on a similar level of trauma as failing Joule, abandoning/betraying his friends, or being a terrorist who collateralled noncombatants, because he felt himself becoming Copen, and is that not the worst thing imaginable?
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>>563264328
The death of Pantera is a wound on the soul of mankind.
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>>563278329
No pan and no bra.
Dragonballl joke.
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>>563277501
I can see why they'd want to do more with the GV1 and GV2 cast as they're the most fleshed out with the best backstories, yet you barely interact with them in game. In comparison, you get to see a good chunk of the Dragon Saviors and ATEMS.
Though some people like the mystery and coldness as it makes things feel more "real." Here's a colorful and attractive anime character with their own life, struggles, goals, and story, yet they're just a minor character in GV's narrative, only existing to be scorned, mercilessly cut down, and forgotten about in the scant time their path crosses his, their character arc ended before it could reach a satisfying conclusion.
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From a story POV, seems like the only reason GV3 existed was to reset everything with a less ruthless GV. That's why they were fine with ignoring all the plot threads/hooks from GV1 and GV2. It wasn't that they dropped them so much as put them on ice. Some of them won't matter now, and the ones that do can be revisited with a reshuffled cast.
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>In comparison, you get to see a good chunk of the Dragon Saviors and ATEMS.
And yet, nobody likes them aside from the Korean incel and the rock landwhale. Kirin herself might have talked more in one game than Cooen in 4 and yet she's nowhere near as liked or fleshed out.
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>>563292415
Rock landwhale was the least interesting ATEMS member, and the ATEMS members had a great dynamic overall. Every one of their conversations was fun.
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>>563291949
>Sumeragi
We literally see Nova get talked down in GV3 (>>562974857). Outside of Nova, Sumeragi aren't fanatical, they're mostly opportunists and bullies. Neither are Sumeragi united. They're screwing each other up as often as Gunvolt is screwing them up.
>Eden
Convince Zonda and you'll cause a schism. Zonda isn't all that hateful or dogmatic. She's the one moderating the others in Eden's Party. She calls coexistence a beautiful fantasy. Convince her that's not the case, or at least talk her down to ZED's stance. Tenjian will still be a problem, as that guy is a hardliner.
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GV still has anger issues (>>562974857). It's going to be a source of internal conflict. Talk down annoying anime teens and save the world vs giving in and going Greek hero on anime teens.
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>>563296197
>Talk down annoying anime teens and save the world vs giving in and going Greek hero on anime teens.
People just don't understand what it's like being a Zero.
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>>563299361
If she wasn't eviscerating you for being a perv, she'd probably like compliments about her nice abs and toned arms and legs.
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Dual Overdrive comes in like a year and there will not he more news until it almost arrives and the winner gets decided. It will be Velvet Man but Capcom is afraid of the maid terror attacks when they make that announcement.
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>>563299568
Aren't toned bodies the default for powerful adepts? Even Elise has some nice arm muscles for a girl as seen in >>563246440.
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>>563299821
That one is extra funny because she has to make a fuckton of exercise, not to keep her looks but to calm her desire to jump into the nearest minos dick she can find and then ride it until his pelvic bones are dust.
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Did Ciel do him a favor?
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>>563300267
I don't think Kirin is a Mary Sue, she just feels like one next to Gunvolt and Copen because they're so flawed. Though they often have a point, especially for the dystopian world they operate in, their views/interpretations are often intentionally opposed to the audience's. Hence, the trope of sympathetic redemption bait villains treated like scum, GV going berserk mode and killing soldiers who are trying to evacuate noncombatants, or Copen naziposting about attractive anime waifus. Kirin, on the other hand, has a mindset more in-tune with the audience, making her more palatable. Next to your standard Megaman or INTI character, like Rock or Lan or X or Jason or hell, even ZED, she's not exceptional.
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>>563214284
I can understand the urge to go back to GV2's slower paced and grounded gameplay. At first, GV3 feels very messy, the bosses are spongy and tough unless you lean on GV, and there were tons of times when I was getting nailed left and right by hard to see boss patterns. It took me until the final boss for GV3's gameplay to finally start clicking for me. Once it did, it was sublime. My replay on the higher difficulty modes were some of the most fun I've had with a sidescroller. I guess the major critique with GV3 is that it takes a bit of time and skill to hit maximum fun. In GV1 and GV2, or any Megaman, you can just pick it up and start having a good time from level 1. GV3 demands a bit more.
Also, I want to say that people who say that combos useless and all you do is arc chain are doing it wrong. Think of combos as mobility tools with some nifty added damage. The aerial uppercut in particular is great for maneuvering around bosses, and the downward slash can be used as a quick oh shit dodge. If you play well, you can really keep up the pressure. It reminds me of the rush I get from mastering Sekiro or Bloodborne.
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>Kirin, on the other hand, has a mindset more in-tune with the audience, making her more palatable
>Most hated character in the whole series by far
She would be palatable OUTSIDE of this series. As things stand she fits just about as well as a hippie in 40keks.
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>>563311967
I don't know or care what you're talking about.
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>>563311715
There were genuinely nice characters in GV1 and GV2. Nike, for instance, who tried to counsel and show Acura mercy even as he killed her. Also, Acura was more hated than Kirin. People only really liked him because he was so fun to play in comparison to Gunvolt, not because of his behavior. Kirin doesn't get much of a strong reaction. She's not a very controversial personality. Additionally, Epilogue ATEMS does criticize her to a degree.
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>>563311715
ZED spends the whole story one-upping and outsmarting Kirin. He even completes Nova's/Zonda's Project Muse, though it's just a stepping stone for his true goal. ZED finishes his DLC story as the most powerful adept in the world. ZED also doesn't kill unless he really has too. Finally, Kirin will kill. She did kill GV in the bad end, and will kill Asimov or Copen in the DLC battles. Kirin also has some light prejudices against nonadepts, seeing them as useless, like most adepts.
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>>563311715
>Most hated character in the whole series by far
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>complaining that Maya's great grandaughter avoids killing
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>>563315374
Unless it's a non-septimal, she just unsheathed Katana on that one.
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>>563300267
Gunvolt and Copen are exceptional in that every time they fight, it's to the death. In the side stories, fights end with one of the adepts incapacitated, not killed. And the beat em up + talk routine was done by both Nova and Zonda. It's how they recruited Viper and Gibril, for instance.
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>>563300267
Kirinragerbro, how do you feel about >>563034982 >>563011201?
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So, what are those things on Kirin's head? Ears? Antennas? Weapons?
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>>563317921
Kirin hair accessories. Also >>562994086 because we like to bullshit connections where there are none.
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>>563313920
>She did kill GV in the bad end
No. GV killed himself with her sword.
>Kirin also has some light prejudices against nonadepts, seeing them as useless
No. The line you're thinking of is that she can't see a normal human being a challenge to GV. GV is insanely, ridiculous strong, no shit a normal human wouldn't be a match for him. If I say an average guy probably can't 1v1 a grizzly bear, that's not being prejudiced against average guys, that's just common sense.
>like most adepts.
No.
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Accessories. The mythological creature she's named after has horns, so it kinda fits.
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It comes up in one of the base conversations. She's one of the hyper competent type of adepts like Merak, ZED, Nova, Shiron, Teseo, Zonda, etc. She's already completed highschool. If I remember correctly, there's another conversation where she implies she's taking college courses part-time. She really lucked out with her Septima.
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>>563322526
So are adepts just smarter than regular people?
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>>563323280
Smarter, sexier, stronger, and healthier by ordered of magnitude.
That after decades of genocide and oppression by minos their plan to deal with them is to fuck them so they fade away naturally instead of retribution also shows these shonen retards are also more moral.
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>>563323280
As stated in FM, Senary/Septima can enhance intelligence and physical strength to a ridiculous degree. Key word can. A lot of adepts are absolute morons, and even the smart ones tend to act irrationally when their obsessions come up. Almost all adepts are more athletic than a normie at a similar level of exercise and diet. Both the 6th and 7th Lifewave manifest anime autism and looks, but only 7th give you crazy anime powers. The above reasons are why many adepts feel like they are the master race and should rule the Earth.
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I love how Gunvolt plays with and justifies all these retarded anime tropes. Kids in position of official power? Well, their special powers sometimes gives them superintelligence or savant syndrome. So that 13-year-old running the police department? Yeah, he has a PhD, he's hyper focused on the job, and runs it better than most adults.
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>>563323881
It wasn't a plan, and it was enacted by the female side of the population who work on hentai logic, not shonen logic.
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>>563323881
I like to imagine the decades of oppression are why a lot of adepts are apparently shy to reveal their septimas in GV3.
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>>563324772
Kirin is 14 and running a shadow cabal of an evil conglomerate.
Your example is pretty tame.
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>Very strong sense of privacy
>When someragi rules even more undisputed than in GV1, and every public space can be turned into a killzone at the press of a button
I love how GV3 show always goes against what the cast says
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>>563324772
No. One of the themes of GV is that despite their incredible intelligence and competence, adepts still lack the maturity, wisdom, and experience to use their powers. It usually ends up biting them in the ass, like >>563325521 . Kirin is more mature than most 14-year-olds, enough where many people thought she was an adult at first impression, and she still has her moments.
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>>563326320
Laser Buddah statues are cool.
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I am aware, but the games had not 2 and not 3 as well
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>>563325703
There's nothing to indicate that Kirin is the leader of Shadow Yakumo.
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>adepts still lack the maturity, wisdom, and experience to use their powers
The adepts we're talking about are children, teenagers at best. No shit they lack maturity, they're literally immature.
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High priestesses, so very high up at the very least.
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>>563287845
https://voca.ro/16Ph1aeWGQRo
>Gunvolto~
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>>563329815
High Priestesses
>Kirin
>Layla
>Zonda
Muses
>Layla
>Mytyl/Joule
>Lola
>Zonda
Wanted to say there was some overlap, but there isn't.
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>>563329815
Battle Priestess. She sounds like a field agent. Some authority, she's in charge of the Saviors after all, but not necessarily high up.
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I want that.
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>>563305903
>GV with GV3 combat style in classical era
Whenever Kirin fights an adept from GV1 or GV2, it feels like beating a baby. Those old school adepts just can't keep up with GV3 era adepts.
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>>563300267
You're just making excuses.
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>>563333886
We get it you're sick of the GV lore discussion, but baiting like this is a bitch-cuck way of trying to shift the conversation.
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>>563332759
The world of difference between the times of Nova and Kirin are so interesting to explore. She lives in an adept world, made for her kind where minos are neither seen nor heard.
Contrast that to Nova, where Minos still rule the world and trying and hold on to power one mass grave after another and the way this colors both of their viewpoints.
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>>563335069
I don't care if they make a lewd version of Bombergirl, I'm not paying for Swtich online.
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>>563326320
I say that it is so that everybody knows that if someone start a Jojo duel that will kill a couple of blocks worth of people and infrastructure might as well make it clear to whomever started it that they are not gonna end it.
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Pic unrelated, right?
>>563333886
Ciel bad end stuff is incredibly enticing, and even outside that she's still very cute and pretty. Check yourself.
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The two Jojo characters are cool though, with the one in the first game being the only guy GV acknowledges isn't a bad guy and whose fighting style is nonlethal (although not reflected in gameplay, much like Desna isn't supposed to be trying to kill Copen until he shows he's not going to stop). Doesn't stop GV from killing him, though.
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>>563331284
Kirin occupies the same position that Nova did, so she's pretty high up in the Sumeragi hierarchy. You can see her throw her authority around a bit in the ATEMS DLC.
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>>563339979
She has authority to dispatch peacekeepers and leads what are basically the Sumeragi swordsmen, so inference wise, she's like Nova. Do you think Sumeragi would let a low level goon have that much unsupervised power, especially when they have Gunvolt by their side? She also pulls rank over the SFIT in the DLC. Personally, I think it would have been cooler to give her a boss to chafe under, but there's some nice narrative irony in GV working under the "Nova" of the new era.
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>She has authority to dispatch peacekeepers and leads what are basically the Sumeragi swordsmen
In a manner of speaking? There’s peacekeepers around in 3, but I don’t think it’s said that she dispatched them.
> Do you think Sumeragi would let a low level goon have that much unsupervised power, especially when they have Gunvolt by their side?
When she’s from Shadow Yakumo? Sure, probably.
>She also pulls rank over the SFIT in the DLC.
I should probably replay 3.
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>>563348118
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>>563348901
You talking about Zonda, right? Zonda was Elpizo + Roll + Ciel + Alice + a lot of her own thing. She takes many visual motifs from Elpizo, especially the hair and transformation, but her intelligence and leadership style are closer to Ciel. She even has her own Alouette in Olga. Her personality is completely her own though.
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Mmmm, Temu Shadow Arcana. . . .
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>>563351050
Is INTI inspired?
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