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/smbg/ #339 - Wonder Koopalings edition
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>How come the spin offs never used the Koopalings well like mainline does?
You haven't played the spinoffs, they shine there. Mainline is just now doing more unique stuff with the Koopalings besides just rehashing smb3 and smw.
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I love Luigi
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>>562929232
Luigi is shit.
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The implication is that Bowser's forces didn't recognize Bowser being possessed by Cackletta.
That said, the remake makes it clearer by explaining that Fawful used magic to make Bowletta look more like regular Bowser.
Back to what that anon said though, the Koopalings were used pretty well in the RPGs, particularly the later Mario & Luigi games, helped by being free of the constraints of the platformers which stuck them to the same basic boss template.
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Daisy, my beloved.
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Should Poochy have been included in World? Do you think he might still have a chance at being post-launch content? He’s so cute…
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This is a lot less weird when you remember that it was already announced as a Galaxy movie at this point. So the only thing it actually got right that wasn't already hinted at was Bowser Jr showing up. which wasn't particularly far fetched. Even that "black market for forbidden stars" was probably fanficed up by that one piece of concept art of Mario and Luigi in the bazaar.
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People are starting to nag about their meme party game again...here we go....
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>>563007513
Personally i find it real sus that most Nintendo YouTubers are posting about Smash altogether out of the blue when everyone is currently talking about the rumored remakes and the movie.
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Wdyt about the fact that Mario X Luigi is just as popular as Luigi X Daisy on Pixiv
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>>563017827
I think that Rosalina x Pauline is shit and all their shippers need to be wiped out, especially the one's that complain about incestshittery because they are not different from shipping the same crack
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i agree with the first anon, yuri garbage needs to be dealt with, kill the scattering bugs left after the movie nuke
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Do you miss the time where the mario spinoffs had a lot more human characters?
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Mario Maker 3 is coming. I can feel it.
>Taking down Mario Builder
>It got discounted when that's usually rare
>Nintendo suddenly took down a lot of levels from the game because they had hashtags in the title
Nintendo is doing something with Mario Maker.
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Need the time skip game 100 years in the future to see Mario and peach's descendant.
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How autistic is this? When New Super Mario Bros. Wii came out in 2009 and I saw Toad and Toad were 3 and 4 instead of Wario and Waluigi I told myself I would not buy another Mario game until Nintendo corrected this mistake. I've made good on that promise so far. Every time a Mario game with multiple characters comes out I check to see if they added Wario and Waluigi, and they never do, so I either don't play or I pirate.
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I vaguely remember that and I remember thinking it was flimsy at best. You don't needs Toads to make everyone play the same. If Luigi already doesn't have his usual special attributes, Wario and Waluigi are also fine playing the same as Mario, like they are in Mario Party's platforming challenges. People have never been conjused by the fact that sometimes Luigi has special abilities and sometimes he dosn't.
NSMBW also fucked up the lore. Toads are helpless creatures by nature, and even in SMB2 where the one strong one was playable, he's a very poor jumper, mechanically the worst character. That's the reason Mario and Luigi are necessary heroes in the Mushroom Kingdom. Having multiple Toads identical to Mario only deminishes what Mario and Luigi are. Including Wario and Waluigi maintains Mario and Luigi in symmetry.
I don't remember if it came up, but there's also the question of why Wario and Waluigi would accompany Mario and Luigi on their adventure. Several reasons. Mainly, competition. The four are locked in an eternal struggle to be "the best". They appear in every spin-off for that reason. Extending this to their main adventures wherever applicable is a natural extension of their primary reasons for being, and keeps some dramatic texture. A full cast with zero tension is boring, it's nothing. It's such a waste having four characters to play as when two of them are effectively placeholders.
Plus there's the fact that even Wario wants Peach's favor in the comics. All those reasons are why nobody batted an eye when he was in SM64DS. It's not suddenly a problem in a sidescroller. And Waluigi is especially simple in his rivalry. Any chance he has to stalk Luigi, screw him over, and get any attention and clout over him, he would take. There are millions of opportunities to do things like that in that in four-player Mario.
You don't need special mechanics or extra cutscenes to make it work. Just let the concept sit there and do its own work.
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Who will be the villain for the next movie?
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Miyamoto has also said Wario can't be in mainline Mario games because he's "in a different art style" since "he was made by R&D1." But he's from the same series as Daisy, yet she's appearing in Wonder now. That excuse for Wario doesn't really make any since to me since Wario was just designed to be an exaggerated distortion of Mario, like his Bluto, and he had always been integrated into the spin-offs without clashing. Mario designs always have a ton of variance anyway. Mario and Luigi are little cartoony guys, Peach and Daisy are pretty anime girls, Wario and Waluigi are more villainous cartoony guys. I think Miyamoto was just making excuses because he personally doesn't like Wario.
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Illumination has an interesting problem now. They've been criticized twice for having a threadbare plot in these movies.
And another problem: How do you top Galaxy? How do you top space travel? I think there's a stone that can kill these two birds.
And no. It's not Smash.
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>>563064696
my thoughts is they have 3 options for titles
>the Mario Wonder movie
the most recent game, a simple title since these movies aren't stuck to the games they are named after, as long as the flower kingdom and the wonder flowers show up.
also both daisy and rosalina are there
>the Mario Odyssey movie
simple and epic enough it could apply to any kind of road trip plot while still feeling like a sequel title
>the Mario [insert name of in dev 3D mario here] movie
great cross marketing potential, if the movies keep the momentum that is.
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>>563064696 (me)
...Now I'm noticing that the movies have set up the concept of multiple universes/dimensions.
Now let's think.
What Mario game involved a multiversal/multidimensional adventure?
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...Oh no...
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Yeah, Miyamoto is a genius but sometimes he can be wrong.
Sakurai made simultaneous multiplayer work in traditional Super Mario Bros gameplay, rejoicefully making his koopa shell argument dead in water. We did get Peach in NSMB.
None of Hacknabe's Paper Marios beated Super Paper Mario in sales, the most story/oc enriched Mario RPG. and so forth.
Also i personally think Miyamoto was mostly jealous of Wario since he was the "cooler" Mario at the time, hence his small pursuit to make Mario a little less childish and more cooler passively.
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>It's not Smash.
It's never going to be about Smash, Smash is about animated figurines fighting each other. For it to work, it has to be some sort of spinoff taking place in another snazzy dimension or in the mental perspective of kids playing their toys at school and home ala some kodomomuke show plot ala Gundam Build Fighters.
I don't believe we'll get a Smash movie anyways, but definitely attempted pitches.
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close enough
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Still want to know the full story behind this
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SM64, hands down
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So how long to wait until we get more DK? Seems like if those Nate leaks are true, then 2028 or 2029 for at least a spinoff. Dk rpg or a jungle climber sequel(worst ending)
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The game that derailed Paper Mario. It's not the worst thing in the world but I would always trade it for more classic Paper Mario. Also my first copy of this was the glitched European copy so it gets points deducted for a bad launch.
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People are saying the Galaxy movie feels like it's written by Ian Flynn but honestly Ian Flynn could do a better script.
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looks like /sthg/ feels threatened because Nintendo is reviving their own autistic furry franchise
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>>563098050
>look inside
>/sthg/ has no mention about mario other than olympics
You LIE!
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>>563098715
i was just poking fun at the sonic poster earlier
although making star fox a speedrun focused platformer might be one way to revive star fox
he is known for being a speedster because of smash
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How would a movie with Super Paper Mario as the spine work? How would it go?
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>>563099560
it worked for donkey kong
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>>563076896
Best part about Mario is you can go whever.
If you have a Switch 1 or 2 you can pick up Odyssey if you want a 3D Platformer or play Wonder if you want a 2D one
Then with NSO you can play SMB3 which has like 3 different versions and SMW, Mario 64, eventually Mario Sunshine
Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 is on the eshop
3D World is also a great pick if you prefer linear 3d platformers
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SMW, SMB2(latest version), SMB3, SM64, Sunshine, Odyssey, 3d World (Bowser's fury)
Some classic formulaic Marios to try (basically the flagpole games): SMB1, 3d World(outside of Fury), Mario Wonder, NSMB DS.
After you get good at these, try the other SMB2(hard mode of SMB1, earlier version called lost levels)
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What do you think of flat Peach?
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Boo sex?
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no one talks about the actual gameplay because the game fucking sucks ass and should've been a standard paper mario game.
it has bad platforming despite being a platformer and its levels go out of their way to piss you off as a joke
its only redeeming quality is the writing and the music, and that you can play bowser i guess
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>>563123976
>people reminisce about this game, no one ever praises the level design
I got 2 nickles, yippee.
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>SSE Bowser and Wario were done well.
Disagree.
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Not the original replier.
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how powerful is she?
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Nintendo ""insiders"" only ""leak"" Mario Maker 3 after posts about Nintendo moderating MM2 go viral, of course
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I just saw the movie and I thought it was kino. Yeah the story is puddle thin but I think the appeal of the movies is getting to see those characters talk and be in funny situations they don't do in the games and I thought that was great fun.
IMO the actual flaw of the movie is their embarrasing attempt at giving pathos and sister shit to Peach and Rosalina, the non-comedy stuff.
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I do not care about movies
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I saw it yesterday and that was pretty much exactly how I felt. No need for origin BS meant we could just get right into the action with all the characters. Overall, the movie felt like they took one of those newgrounds flash animations from the early 2000s with Mario characters having DBZ fights and animated it with a hollywood budget, which is really all I wanted.
Also agree on the Peach/Rosalina stuff. It's not that I care they made them sisters, but it's clear they really had no idea what the fuck to do with Rosalina, and she basically just served as a MacGuffin, and they shoehorned their relationship in order to give SOME character a reason to feel something about her. The scenes where they dwell on that shit just breaks the pacing and aren't very compelling, and I bet the movie would work 100% better if you just cut them out.
The only other thing holding it back was the casting, most of which I still don't like. Jack Black was much better as Bowser this time, though. Charlie Day as Luigi is still absolutely solid and I'm looking forward to the rumored Luigi's Mansion movie, if true.
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I enjoyed it, but Im glad I didnt pay for it.
It was the closest a movie has ever been to being actually just a videogame that you cant play where it would be just mario characters jumping around for 2 hours in mario environments with mario music, in fact it probably would had been better if they did just that and they had zero plot since the little plot its got its retarded and boring. (except bowser and jr relationship which was cute)
It looks pretty at least.
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>Leaker claims Super Mario Maker 3 is in development
I'm not really surprised. My prediction is that MM3's roster will be: Mario, Luigi, Toad (Blue & Yellow toggle), Toadette, Peach, Daisy, Rosalina and Nabbit.
Nabbit might finally get actual powerups like the rest of the crew which would be cool, kind of a continuation of how he got transformations in Wonder.
https://mynintendonews.com/2026/04/10/leaker-claims-super-mario-maker- 3-is-in-development/
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>>563202070
i think having 3D levels based on the 3D games is the only real way to evolve Mario Maker.
well that's if were getting MM 3, it could just be "Super Mario Maker 2: Nintendo Switch 2 edition" with new 2D gamestyles
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A MM3 happening is kind of a nobrainer since it's an easy project to put out since they're mostly made out of refurbished assets.
Like that other anon I'm not really interested unless they manage a better hook for it than "It's MM2 but with Wonder graphics option".
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I should have clarified i was thinking something like star fox assault but the ground sections have a more movement shooter / time attack influence, rather than a sonic clone like some of you might have thought i was suggesting. my bad
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very funny way of saying "dont blame me if the leaks are wrong" but even before this there were theories something mario maker is on horizon since Nintendo DMCAd mario builder 64 and put MM2 on a deeper than usual discount
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Go back to /v/ retards, the both of you
Also, using cuck instead of tendie/snoy as an insult? At least you're changing up your ways of shitty console warring, I'll give you fags that
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leaking a franchise that created a goyslop movie is rightfully justified
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>Mario Bros arcade as the worst
I will kill you where you stand.
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>>563225195
>anime style
>look worse
EVERY FUCKING TIME KEK
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Please do not (You) me, I am busy doing autism things. The (You) ping interrupts my tism flow
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>>563228175
Nah, Illumination would probably want to draw from the RPG well eventually
The question is how much they'd fuck with it
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I think the past two movies are more than enough evidence to suggest that expecting more out of Illumination is a fruitless endeavor, especially with Nintendo treating them like products rather than vehicles for storytelling.
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I wish Illumination could adapt a Mario RPG
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it's exactly what "everyone" wanted out of a "Mario" movie
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Not getting jokes is a sign of autism maybe you should go to that screening
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>ridiculous expectations
The grim part is that the ridiculous expectations aren’t even about adapting the RPG elements, but about the movie having consistent character arcs, themes, and a cohesive plot.
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The funny thing is that the Mario Galaxy movie has some similarities with the plot for Mario Galaxy 2 that Miyamoto forced them to scrap. They wanted to include characters from other NIntendo properties.
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It seems to fly against Nintendo's philosophy but I'd like to see them make more small-scale 2D platformers. Imagine releasing something the size of NSMB2 (but with more level/aesthetic creativity) that goes for like $30
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The problem is that Nintendo will charge $60 for that privilege at least. Until Nintendo has reasonable pricing you're obligated to pick up the much cheaper Japanese digital copies of Switch 2 games on Amazon.
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>Every Paper Mario game is just one of Rosalina's fanfics (raughs)
DAMN YOU MIYAMOTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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i would too, but they would still get flak for it for being low budget
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You heard it here first folks
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>>563317162
The first three Paper Marios are storybook retellings of actual Mario adventures much like Mario 3 is a stage play inspired by an actual adventure.
When it starts becoming exclusively about the world being made of paper and being threatened with arts and crafts vandalism, then its just a living book.
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>>563328858
NTA but
Then what the fuck did Bleck and his goons look like in a non-paper art style
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thoughts on DK wearing pants, one year later?
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>AIslop unironically being posted
Well, if everyone else is doing it, then why the fuck not
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How does Dr. Mario being a different person from Mario even work? did he clone himself? did he have a fucking cousin? whats even the reason for the split when they coulda easily been the same guy and nothing woulda changed significantly?
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Super Paper Mario only works as something in the Sticker Star universe where Bleck and Timpani transcend the book and go into the real Mario universe at the end.
TTYD also relies way too much on things being paper like all of the transformations.
64 works as something that could have actually happened though.
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>>563331921
>Bleck and Timpani transcend the book and go into the real Mario universe at the end
>"A new multiverse" was born at the end of SPM (iirc)
Time to bring out ol' reliable
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>>563334483
Ludwig is one of the easier Koopalings. It's a lot easier to avoid taking damage in his fight.
In terms of difficulty on their hardest versions of their fights I'd go with
Wendy > Lemmy > Morton > Larry > Lugwig > Iggy > Roy
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>>563338435
uhuh sure, and dr. luigi, dr. peach, dr. bowser, dr. bowser jr, dr. toadette, dr. wario, dr. waluigi and dr. daisy are all totally unrelated people who happen to resemble the mario cast and be named like them okok
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in fact, by that logic, dr. fire mario is a totally different person unrelated to dr. mario OR mario himself! do you see how ridiculous this is yet?
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/smbg/, why does it hurt so much being the best?
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>>563352282 (me)
And before someone flips out and goes "/sthg/ reee": it is a known fact that Mario games are good and their adaptations are shit, while it's the inverse for Sonic
>>563352294
>FUARK
go back to /dbs/
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>>563352449
>it's the inverse for Sonic
Archie Sonic.
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Now that it's been out for a while, what did anons think of the Galaxy movie?Luigi was cute, like usual,but as whole I thought the movie was kind of a mess.
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>>563352449
>it's the inverse for Sonic
stfu Ian Flynn your comics are shit
>>563354119
kino because it put rosafags in their place and giantess peach gave me a boner
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>>563354072
>no one gives a shit about geno
I "give a shit" about Geno.
>>563354179
>stfu Ian Flynn your comics are shit
>implying I'm Ian (((Flynn)))
>implying I give a shit about comicslop
You're cringe bro ngl
I meant TV and film, not comicshit
>>563354348
Gerald was one of the best parts of Movie 3.
Fight me.
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Yeah, it's a mess
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>>563354179
Peach only grew like an extra two feet lol, you need to behave yourself, anon! I do feel kind of bad for Rosalina fans though. The way the trailers and Brie Larson hyped her up was pretty misleading, and it felt like the changes made to her backstory had no real pay off. I don't think she and the bros even exchange a single line of dialogue with each other. ALSO what was even keeping her and Peach separated in the first place? Everything just moved way too fast, so if there was a reason then I clearly missed it.
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It only moved fast if you were born before 2000.
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>>563352449
/dbs/ didn't invent fuark, they stole it from /v/
>>563352527
>/dbs/ is /smbg/ culture, genospics are all welcome.
kys /dbs/reject, not all who like geno are spics
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>>563358839
Esto es el fin.
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>>563361419
I am your step dad. I come to train you to be better, my son.
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>>563369425
I find background clutter objects in generated images fascinating. Like what is that thing coming out of the pipe, or that one mushroom with the circle next to the super mushroom?
Or even that slab on the laptop. The fuck is that
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this is a pretty good depiction of him, i feel like
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I mean you're not wrong in the part of Peach and Rosalina being related but I think the storybook for some reason made people believe she was Peach's daughter or some shit. Never got why.
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