First for sex with the F-5E

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>>563248340
>2 3 4?
>inb4 broke boah
Gacha'll do that to ya.

thinking about stock grinding the Yak-141 in the event before it ends
already got the bombers, but I just want to ruin some mutts days

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Last game for the day. 14 for me, 16 for the rest of the team combined.

Consider this your daily reminder to Play Britain.

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>>563248586
>remembered I actually wanted to grind the Su-34 first
Fuck.
I am being punished for my greed and hubris.

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Is the swedish/Somalian Sherman Worth it? From one side is a tier 3 in a low BR,from the other side no 12.7 and no turret shield so idk

>>563248340
Thank you for the relevant OP image

Do I jerk off or queue ARB

>>563249584
Jerk while queuing?

How to fix nuclear thunder for when they make it permanent
>Make the OSAs behave like the osa akm in GRB, make their ammo pool also depend on ammo depots
>Air defenses cannot shoot down HARMs, except for the S-300/Patriot
>Buk can only target one munition per TADS vehicle since its the sahr Buk-M1, if you fire four missiles at it one should get through as theres only 3 TADS
>Buk sites get a CIWS that can shoot down nukes or very slow missiles
>Airfields get ito-90s and TOR-m1s that can shoot down everything except ARMs

>>563249584
>>563249629
>he hasn't gooned while afklimbing

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>fire HARM at osa
>lands on top of it
>Critical hit

>>563250590
I've had this happen with Rolands and Gepards too, try not firing too high.

>>563249662
I'm glad they'll never hire you to "fix" anything in this game.

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Idk why but this shit is making me tear up

>>563252550
Had some fag crying abloos because he couldn't just brain numbingly fly straight, press 2 keys and top score and get a bomber with a fighter anymore kek.
He was chimping out when someone told xher it was good since people could focus on the SEAD aspect of the event more.

>>563252787
To be fair this guy did get TK'd by a chinese name on an A-10 but it still is really funny

>>563252887
The way he types makes me believe he deserved it. Hope he killed the chink afterwards too.
Was it even the medium nuke?

>Play the 163 for the first time in a while to intercept the new strategic bombers
>3 minutes of gas
>still has ground spawn
>30 seconds of time on target and then try to glide back to base
Literally unplayable

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ty snail ily <3
I would have stacked gjn for this eventually someday

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>clean every AA site including patriots
>somehow friendlies take the cue and switch to su-24s
>enemy left without a single airfield
i dont understand why no one bombed our bases

>>563253995
insane ive never gotten anything good from these

reminder that any posts about gamba wins are actually just the snail trying to get you to burn through your SL

>>563254001
The first team to destroy at least 2 airfields will generally snowball due to the other team's limitations on spawn locations

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Post the highest kill req camo you have that you got without using GE

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>live in peace with my Intruder even with red fags on their su-25s
>one random fucking Playstation fag starts aggroing on me
>Die and swap to F4
>Start killing every single Su-25
>most of them swapped to Faggers
I should've raped these fucking faggots sooner, can't fucking trust a red

>>563253527
You're meant to fly on 2% throttle silly billy.

>>563254001
>>563254294
Which airfields should be the first to go?

>>563256053
coast are the easiest, mountain pass ones are second easiest, obviously the middle one is the single most important
odds are a fourth of the team will quit once that and the coast strip goes

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I Require more abrams, I shall buy the Anime pack

>>563256053
if you are on the RUS side, go for the mountain side first as its the safest route for mutts and they will use it to flank all your airfields and AA sites

if you are on the US side, take the beach airfields, its a very safe route for pidors and they WILL spam su-24s through there

you should also prioritize the bugged BUK site as USA, the others are not that big of a deal, for RUS all the hawks are equally as bad, but the mountainside one has a perfectly open view of the middle valley and starts shooting as soon as you take off

>>563253995
>no thermals and mid dart at 11.0
is this thing even any good

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Do I go with APKWSs or Hydras?
>>563258552
Doesn't it have like a 4 second reload?

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well?

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Which ones are gone?

>took out all of the theater level AA
>have enough spawn points for Tu95
>take mig25 up to high altitude to try to sweep out their campers
>team runs out of tickets because our airspace has been completely porous and phantoms have been nuking depots on cooldown all game since our miggers are shit.
All of the F-4S and J's on the other team didn't help. The mig is arguablly a little bit better than the ligma boosted 4E, but the 4S and J are head and shoulders superior. Maybe the lineups will be more balanced in the future if/when they bring this mode back.

Why is SEAD way easier with NATO attackers? Why do Rolands take too long to fire to let you turn and run to a safe distance?

>>563256943
This but with Arietes

>>563261194
What tactics dude? I can't seem to get rid of the convoy AA before the depot AA fires on me, and if I fire on the depot AA the convoy AA fires on me and I insta die because it's at >5km.

>Yak-141 gets shilled for having a better radar over Mig-29
>start spading
>first time I ever see R-27ERs miss despite having a clean lock
???

>get under 25m
>weave around
>pray and run
so far the best strategy to dodge osas and rolands in a pinch, same exact strat i had to learn years ago to avoid Ka-50 niggers in helicopter EC

>>563261938
Have you not tried not being retarded and effortlessly destroying them at the start of a match?

>>563261538
For the russian side, since the PvP nerf I've started starting with the Su-24 with 7x Kab500s (the GNSS guided ones). I do a couple of kamikaze runs against the entrenched tanks at low altitude and then popup around 10 or so km. Once the CCRP indicator says to drop, I nose down and fly directly at the entrenced tanks, then swap to targetting pod and quickly spam all 7 bombs at stuff. Then, while the bombs are in flight, I use CCIP guns to throw every cannon round that I have at the flakrakrad. It's suicide but I'll take a few of them out with me and quickly I'll have 300sp. If you're using welfare stuff, I guess Su-25 with harms and vikhrs might be alright.

Once I have 300 SP, I spawn a mig-23 with the mini-nuke and start hunting the hawk and patriot emplacements. I haven't decided on the best order to knock them out, but the north and south hawks are the lowest hanging fruit. Might be best to knock out the north hawk and then open up a hole for you to flank and hit the patriots. Normally low altitude approaches climbing into a CCRP drop is best. The middle hawks can be a bitch to approach from the ground though with the new airfield positioning. Might be best to wait to attack them until after the su24s have hit the airfields, or attempt a higher altitude drop. Mig23 should be able to high altitude drop the hawks but it might be suicide if they shoot at you early. You should be able to get the bomb off before death.

Once the theater level AA is dead, it's probably best just to spam mini nukes at depots from higher altitudes. I want to drop the big nuke, but I haven't been able to clear the theater AA, earn 2500sp, AND singlehandedly clear out the high altitude airspace in time.

>>563262525
i said in a pinch, like when trying to take a more direct route to nuke enemy hawks that crosses between two depots

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>>563261742
okay, this explains everything
I thought it got stock ERs
I knew something was very off

>>563262632
Have you tried not flying directly to your target in a straight line and using all whooping 256km of map the devs gave you?

>>563262551
>>563261538
For USA, it's mostly the same idea except for starting you can use the GBU8s on the F4E. Osas kind of suck at intercepting those. I haven't tried it yet since I'm still spading the plane, but I just unlocked the F-111F and I'm going to try to use the thermal pod to target enemy static tanks from 15km out and then toss 750lb bombs at them with the CCRP computer from 4-5k altitude. They don't intercept dumb bombs, so I'll just be awkwardly bombing things with CCRP.

>>563262687
there is no time

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>>563262551
Can you show which route you take first? Assuming with a welfare Su-25T or an A-7E.
This is really useful by the way, really appreciate your tips and help.

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>>563262896
this for RU side, go for the entrenched tanks with the su-25t with vikhir loadout, wait until the roland fires, fire an ARM, evade, then kill tanks with vikhirs

once you have the MLD with nuke, go for the HAWKs, easy SP, use CCRP toss bombing

take the blue routes to bomb enemy airfields, once again CCRP is your friend, leave the center airfield for last as that one is very hard to reach since its right next to an elevated hawk site

take the green routes if you really love SEAD

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>>563262896
I'm actually the guy who made that map. I haven't done enough sorties to definitively say that this is the way to go about doing things, but it works for me. Green are routes that I've taken as USA, pink are routes that I've taken as USSR. I only interact with the saclos clusterfuck in the opening stages of the game by using attackers to brute force some static tanks to pay for my first nuke. Then I just flank and bomb stuff with low altitude approaches and CCRP bomb tosses. I generally have been exclusively using the smallest nuke. Teammates more or less can be relied upon to pay up for medium nukes to kill airfields. There is less competition going for the theater AA. The hawk sites are particularly juicy since there are so many little launchers and radar sites in the nest. I swear it's something close to 1000 score to nuke one.

It might actually be easier to attack the s300/patriots than it is to attack the middle two hawks/buks. They're just sort of a bitch to approach if the airfields haven't been knocked out yet. Higher altitude bombing against them is possible, but I haven't succeeded at that with F-4E yet. I have succeeded with mig23, but sometimes it's a pyrrhic victory where they kill me after I drop. But it's hard to tell if higher altitude drops vs the hawks/buks are really viable or if you just got lucky and they wasted time shooting teammates instead of you.

Anecdotally hugging the highway or the beach is the safe way to approach tidewater buk. I've had success doing that, but again you might have just gotten lucky. It's probably safer to hit north first as USA and buildup a buffer of SP before risking assailing tidewater.

Once the theater AA is all dead, you honestly can probably just side climb on your side of the map to ~4-5km and drop on depots from above the saclos. I want to drop the big nuke, but it hasn't been in the cards.

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we did it /wtg/eddit!

>>563262896
>>563264394
>>563264498
I fucking love /wtg/ sometimes.

>>563264519
>>>>>>compressor
Are all Russian players this stupid or are you the exception.

>>563264541
>>563264498
>>563262896
One more thing. When flanking you probably want more flares than chaff. Multipathing will probably protect you from most F-4S/J sparrows (except the smart ones lofting their shots from high alt), and should protect you from russian mig's 24Rs. If you bump into anyone else, then I like to pre-flare rather than reactive flare. Just pop one flare every 2 seconds or so and they'll have a bitch of a time acquiring a lock in the first place. If you see an Su-25T, give it some space. Don't let it get within ~1.5k or 2km. R-73s can be a bitch up close, so don't let him get close.

The theater AA has been a very good source of score for me, few of my teammates are competing against me for it, I don't need medium nukes for it, and few enemies have tried to stop me.

Depots can potentially be lucrative if you catch them when a convoy is staging there, but everyone is gunning for the depots, the depots are crawling with SACLOS, and members of the furball might fuck with you.

Watch the kill feed. If a teammate nukes some of the theater AA, check the map for the nuke explosion marker and mentally note which one that he blew up.

One last thing, I think that it should be obvious but it might not be. I designate the CCRP target for my bombs by clicking on the map rather than looking at the ground. This gives me a point of reference that I can watch from long range. You should be able to get close by looking at the png map and cross referencing with the in-game map (the AA is normally on top of hills, so note those topographical marks). But if the AA ever gets spotted, then you can easily mark the bomb site with perfect precision.

>>563264707
came selected by default and didn't bother checking
gonna piss your pants about it?

>>563262896
If you're not familiar with how to do CCRP bomb drops, then watch a youtube video about it. It's pretty straightforward but you will need to know how to designate sensor points of interest to target the bombs, and how to grant the computer permission to drop the bombs so that you're not manually dropping them.

For the US team, the GBU8 guided bombs on the F4E are surprisingly effective at bypassing the osa's defenses for some reason. I'm curious if they're failing to trigger the proxy fuse. Give them a try if you're struggling to get ground kills as USA.

>>563264394
nta but do you ever switch to the su24+nuke? specifically for airfield bombing
and do you use that medium nuke for patriot sites or just gun run them? gepards mulch anything flying low at 2km

>>563265623
just roll

>>563266675
what

>>563265623
NTA, but I just keep using the mig23 nuke. It's big enough to kill the patriots. Med is obviously better for airfield bombing, but my teammates trip over themselves to bomb those.
>gepards
They shouldn't even come into play. Use the map to designate the patriot/hawk sites from long range. Approach at ~40-50m. Then when you start getting close, maybe somewhere between 8 and 9km, pull up sharply and use CCRP to drop. You'll never get within range of gepards.

>>563266930
Ahhh okay I think I get what you mean. Clear AA first then go for the airfields. All after rushing to get the MiG-23 nuke ASAP.
Well I tried it sans the AF nuking and I got to 1800SP really quickly. I'll try going exclusively for the Patriot sites next match and see how I fare.

>>563267198
The airfields are important, but what I'm saying is that plenty of people will do it. Why risk the extra SP and potentially be caught watching your airfield explode before your risk it? The cheaper nukes kill the AA just as good as the medium ones.

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How'd I do? I messed up some nukes and died a couple of times while flying nuke planes. Got 3 Patriot sites.

You shouldn't be able to late spawn into an escalation 3 match.

>>563268053
Eh, I don't mind it too much. One, joining late can give you shorter matches, which can be nice for variety. Two, if Join-in-Progress was disabled N minutes into the match, the games could become unbalanced in terms of player counts by the end, so the minor inconvenience of joining very late isn't comparable to the absolute bullshittery of having to play a 4v16 or something.

If this event has showcased anything is that queue times would be non-existent if Gaijin wanted so, for any gamemode. I can leave, requeue, and join a brand new match that is about to start many times within a minute.
Crewlock and queue times are the most disgusting Gaishit handicaps in the game, literally hate their playerbase if they keep them on.

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>R2
>Losat
>MGM-166
all beam riding missiles and can't be fired on the move, why?

>>563268862
Why shouldn't they?

How do I disable the bomb camera? I just want to use CCRP without tracking my bombs

>>563269017
go to controls type track

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>>563269343
it still tracks for some reason

>>563269397
uhhh relog

>>563265623
su-24 for airfields, otherwise Mig-23
also friendly reminder:
>manually sweep back your wing once you take off, the auto sweep is broken and makes you slower
>DROP YOUR EXTRA FUEL TANKS

>>563269494
doesn't work.

>>563269678
rip

>>563269712
Does it happen to you? Since you need to hold space bar or whatever button for CCRP bombing.

>>563269810
Nope but I'm not surprised it does for you.
Make sure you have it unbound.

>>563269678
create backup of controls and reset them

>>563269843
>>563269848
I tried controls from WT Live and it still tracks for holding fire second/drop bomb button. I think my game is just broken.

>>563270265
got any extra controllers, pedals, steering wheel connected to pc?

>>563270265
Make a backup of your controls, reset them and try again. If it still doesn't work import your keybinds. If it does take a screenshot of everything you think is different and go step by step changing 1 relevant keybind at a time until you get it right.

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why is the chinese f104g .7BR higher than the german one despite it not having flares and the german one does
they have the same missile loadout too

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>>563262551
>>563264394
>>563264498
>>563265218
>>563267331
You guys are genuinely the best people we've had in this thread since forever, just got my first big fuckoff nuke in the Tu-95 thanks to you. I pray your lives are full of nothing but joy and blessings from this day until your last.

>just realized the tu-95 can only carpet bomb with 6 bombs at most
what the heck bros? why did the amerisharts have to get the cool stuff?

>>563271170
I've never managed to drop the big nuke. There is always a squad camping the bomber spawn.

>>563272002
I did as adviced and managed to rake 7k+ score by the time the enemy team was barely breaking 2.5k and the second guy on my team got 3-4k~ from nuking airfields.
If I had to guess the key to this tactic is speed, I fumbled a couple of spawns by trying to reach AA batteries sooner so that could be fixed to get it even sooner, when nobody suspects and the forward airfields are still up.
Took a huge risk because there was only 1 American at spawn alt but I'm guessing he was an F-4J/S slinging Sparrows at low alt MiG-23s and nobody else was looking my way.
Lucked out because the only airfield left was the main one too, so just try to get it ASAP.

>>563272168
I'm glad it worked out well for you. I don't think I'm going to be lucky enough to drop the big nuke by the end of the event, but at least finishing the event should be smooth sailing.

now that the dust has settled, which bomber will be better in the usual battles?

>>563273152
Unless they give either an array of cruise missiles, they're both hangar queens.

>>563273356
what stop them from giving cruise missiles? are they too OP?

>>563273398
Probably no, but reddit sperged the fuck out when they almost gave Russia the GROM-1 and this would just be more of the same.
>Oh NOOOO. Think of my Ground RB spaagot!!! You can attack me from 80km away with GPS precision. I can't just drive around to a different spot in the intervening 5 minutes.
or
>think of people just attacking bases in air RB right after spawning. That threatens my ability to bomb bases with my F15. Ignore that the missiles are much slower than jets and won't arrive until 5 minute after the match ends.

>>563273647
yeah considering every spaa has iron dome precision, those missiles would be easy to shoot down

>>563275134
unc/new player cope

>>563275134
4.7 is not fun at all, you got turboprops and late war seeing stuff from mid-early war that get stomped so hard it's not even funny.

>>563276483
since it stops at 6 I think its about ground

the only fun mode is new account battles

>>563276681
Sorry what? This is a plane game, what do you mean ground?

>>563276989
this is a helicopter game

Final task is up anons.

>>563253995
Raped by the turret basket

>>563278457
dont care

>>563278618
Cared enough to reply :^)

>>563278663

>>563278819
>>563278663

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Concession accepted.

>>563279013
Nigga what the fuck is this internal resolution?

>>563280204
DLSS5.0

>>563279013
nigga playing an oil painting

>mudslime consolenigger offers to help me
>ight
>follows me over the mountains so i can nuke the airfield in peace
>suddenly lone mig-23 appears high above us
>tell him to engage while I notch his 24R
>merge
>nothing happens
>look back
>MY FRIEND I RAN OUT OF THE NEEDFUL FUEL SAAR CANT GET A LOCK SAAR SORRI SAAAR
>6km away and getting further away as I dogfight
>2 other migs join the fight
>suicide nuke and take 1 with me
Don't rely on shitskins in this game for anything no matter how rare someone actually speaking English may be.

>>563282338
this only happens if you play on the cis server

>>563279013
I think this image needs more sharpening

>>563270864
minor nation players are more skilled

I still think the Su-25SM3 would have been perfectly fine for the event, unless they think the KH-38s would cuck the stupid op AA missiles

>>563284684
>unless they think the KH-38s would cuck the stupid op AA missiles
They would just get shot down by the Iron Dome Rolands. Which is more evidence that the excessive SAM effectiveness may not be entirely intentional because why even bother to ban standoff munition carriers if the standoff munitions are going to be all but useless?

>>563279013
soul

>told in military training that the cv9030 turret can withstand it's own 30mm cannon
>check armor in war thunder
>50mm protection vs 30mm dart
why did they lie to us...

>>563255936
Damn, I was using 15% like a fool.

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15 degree vertical search zone my fucking ass
It's more like 60 if not more

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>>563260553

>>563289761
you can see the green spinny thing on your hud when you spawn in tho

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Does the physical model of the penetrator actually mean anything, or is it purely cosmetic? For example, this long silver dart model is used for all top tier rounds, but can be found as early as 9.0 nips

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>>563270864
What the fuck are you talking about?

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>Join us LIVE!
>Watch NOW!
>Open Twitch
>They are not live and I can't watch now

>>563292337
it shouldve started 30 minutes ago

>>563289563
swiggers lie about everything

thank you gayjew for adding the fireball i now see more jet engines at 3.3 than i do at 5.3

>>563292337
>>563292616
stream is up

>>563293030
Good job Regular Dude from [LowIQ]

schizos got him

I hate this event so fucking much.

10.3-11.3 used to be my favourite BR to play
for months it's still ruined by bmptniggers
so much fun

If you like multipathing, you hate jets.

>>563297806
Don't play it then?

>>563290358
Someone who knows better can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it indicates that a round uses the standardized "modern dart" formula to calculate post-pen spall whereas shitty early darts with the chode model still use the APDS formula

>>563298387
multipathing is necessary until gaijin fixes the near useless jets if multipathing didnt exist

>>563297806
just dont play it lil bro

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>>563296476
thank you, im always trying my hardest

i want to play the event in sim

>>563271956
Because tu95 was a nuke carrier first and foremost, mutts thought of actually using b52 for carpet bombing

>>563300704
What makes a jet useless?

>>563301787
0 chaff

Can't wait for the enemy to come into MY team's anti-air death bubble.

>>563301787
flight models, lack of chaff, dog shit rwr getting uptiered and facing missiles you'll never be able to deal with

>>563299156
Nah, all "apfsds_long" coded rounds have the exact same spall formula (spall depends on residual penetration). Even the M735 is classified as a long rod, if you were to tweak it's penetration values and bring it up to say DM53's levels, it would have the same exact damage as DM53

>>563301827
>>563301961
Add chaff and decompress problem solved

>>563302551
>spall depends on residual penetration
Spall is residual penetration?

https://files.catbox.moe/4axt6j.webm
who was in the wrong here

>>563302639
yeah too bad they wont decompress because of queue times or some dumbshit they conveniently dont care about queue times at early jets though aint that something

which phantom is the best to use if i just think they're neat planes?

>>563303162
Probably the F-4E, it's perhaps the most well-rouned one for its BR.

>>563303162
the ej kai i think

>>563303162
kurnass 2k or ej kai
f4s is good but your teammates are actually braindead

>>563303327
>same BR as the F/A-18A that's the EXACT same plane but strictly, massively better in absolutely every metric imaginable
Lolmao.

>>563303162
F-4J without doubt
I also like phantoms

why the fuck is the M26 Pershing at 6.7?
same BR as the M26E1 and M26E5

>>563303435
he asked for the best phantom, i assumed for ARB, which is still the ej kai regardless of BR fuckery

>>563303162
I'm quite fond of EJ Kai. It offers quite a wide skill floor to ceiling range.

>>563303310
Seconding this, anything higher than 11.3 and phantoms are simply not fun. The japanese EJ at 11.0 is by far the most fun phantom experience you can have in war thunder, and even that isn't all that fun sadly.

>>563303941
>which is still the ej kai
It absolutely fucking isn't. F-4E (or the Kurnass if for whatever stupid reason you wasted your time on the kike tree), F-4J/S and, believe it or not, the basic F-4EJ are the best ones that don't have just themselves but way better at their respective BRs, in that order. The F-4EJ used to be a strictly worse F-4E but now it gets a more favorable matchmaker that completely excludes it from ever seeing Gen 4s, and making the non-DF Sparrows to work can be a fun challenge since they aren't without their strengths (most notably the supply of the things and the CW seeker). I'd GLADLY take it over the MiG-23M, which it shares a BR with.

>>563303162
Kurnass. And FGR.2.

>>563304604
>FGR.2
There's literally zero reason to play the bong Phantoms over the F-4J/S.

>>563304718
the royal navy phantom looks cool

>>563303162
In a vacuum F4F ICE because hornet radar + AMRAAM. Pound for pound BR-wise F4J/F4S 12.0 with PD radar and 6x AIM-7F. F4E/EJ is good too.

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fucking nigger game

>>563302727
If a rounds that has 250mm pen goes through 230mm of armor, it will have only 20mm of residual pen, which will result in very little spall. If a round with 600mm pen goes through 230mm plate, it will still have 370ish pen left, which would create a lot of spall

I want to grind a new tree but I don't want to grind uncslop and I don't want to buy anything until the sale

>>563304718
It's at 11.3 in Sim.

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>reworked map
>night battle
>spaa has no nv
>cant see anything at all
amazing (also not a bug and issue closed)

>>563304718
Best engines, more cms, better gun, Skyflash df is better than e2-df (yes I know they have 7F).

Another 10 boxes won't hurt, right... ?

>>563305772
stop gambling

>>563305772
take second mortgage

>>563305772
you WILL get a 279 coupon

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>>563305184
LMAOOOOOOO
I've seen no-one getting fucked by SL crates more than you
Imagine grinding a shit event and then having the same vehicle taint your gacha pull a year after
At least i got an AU-1

>>563306509
i've got kinda fucked, past two crates i've pulled 4-5 decals that i've already owned and not a single vehicle

>f-15 loses radar lock on a mig-23 right in front of me
>mig-23 is allowed to freely fly around our airfield without a single response from AA
>mig-23 is faster than full afterburn f-15 after he just did a 11g turn
incredible really

>PL got so bad I couldn't even use CM

Yeah I think I'm going back to queueing US only

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give China the ZDF89

>>563305548
Why do you need nv if you have radar?

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I got lucky with the modification's crates
What about (You)?

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>>563305548
even with exposure boosted you cant see anything
i think your graphics card is just fucked mate

When they will lower brs of the new bombers? I want to Vautour in peace It's 8.3-9.3 all the time.

A-10 BR with no countermeasures is so fucking miserable

Give Russia ka-52m

im gonna say it, the type 03 spaa is the most useless vehicle in the entire game

>>563307182
to move to a more protected spot
i got killed by a pantsir about 2s after taking that pic
>>563307450
its only on the new/reworked maps
i was in a tank with nv/thermals before and it was fine and also just as dark without

>Eurocopter tiger has much worse optics than ka52 irl
>In game they're equal
So much for russian bies

What nation has the most fun HELY COPTER

>>563309234
germany

>>563309308
>>563309234
the eurokekter is just a bit nimble but its weapons utterly useless (everyone has better fnf missles, stingers only and no gun)
the chink helis have funny aa missles

>>563309607
oh i was talking about the bo105

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>>563308621
>Type 03
lol, lmao

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>>563309234
China

>have a wind system that isn't used for ANYTHING except for particle effect movement
>not even cloud movement
>don't even enable it for nukes so you can fly inside a nuke's blast zone as it goes off without the slightest effect on your plane

>>563311074
i think it does function but not in anything where you play against players

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drops status sa'ars?

>>563309234
ANYTHING WITH 16 FNF MISSILES

>>563309234
play russia. it has the high skill ceiling ka-52 (worth it if youre strong enough type deal) and the mi28nm (getting kills without worrying about anything)

>>563311540
I will not debauch myself for a day of premium.

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what the fuck

>>563309234
mi28 at 11.0 POCCNR or mi35m
ka52 i guess but its tiring when you can just spawn the unrealistic unhistorical mi28nm with bullshit overperforming dircm that doesn't exist irl
Also the best mi8 seems to have the same DIRCM at 11.0 lmao
Jew blackhawk with 16 spikes is funny aswell
>someone on this ip range was posting cunny
lol lmao even

>>563313041
you mean ldircm

i would fuck a flanker...

>>563313581
Directional Infra-Red Counter Measures
Laser is just a technical way of focusing the light
fuck off
Every square is a rectangle
Not every rectangle is a square
Its still overperforming and most likely bullshit considering regular DIRCM requires fuckass turrets to guide the ir emissions meanwhile mi28nm somehow can produce a fucking high powered laser from a tiny glass dome with no visible parts, let alone in front of it lmao

Do the preset planes in the event bypass the research penalties?

>>563314215
all ldircm is dircm
a few helicopters in this game have dircm yet they cannot take out an iris missile
kamovs balls

>>563314089
which one

>>563315017
flanker-b+

>>563315432
the what

>>563314641
>all ldircm is dircm
>retard proceeds to make an unnecessary remark saying that i mean MUH LDIRCM when writing DIRCM reffering to two helicopters that have LDIRCM
kys
Gaijin doesn't even model DIRCM or LDIRCM properly as a cone/line drawn from the emitter to the missile making sure they dont intersect with the helicopters model, they just fucking slap a 365 degree circle on a helicopter and call it a fucking day without any restrictions as to how many missiles it can intercept or from what angle.
Utter bullshit
I am also fairly sure that gaijin doesn't model DIRCM jamming SACLOS missiles without xenon beacons just like SHTORA does while it absolutely should when in range.
Ka52M when? Vitebsk is shit i need my new systems

dircm in this game is a fantasy force field that magically deflects missiles

its like that in real life

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Snailgate just dropped

tl;dr - Ex Gaijin employee leaks a bunch of insider info to Reddit about how Gaijin runs shit.

>>563315517
I don't think it was unnecessary.
>Vitebsk
what you want is monoblok. but here is what they say about president-s, which is their export vitebsk ver.

>...includes the following station (blocks) that can be installed as core or optional functions in various combinations depending on the type and purpose of the aircraft: control unit; radar warning station; laser warning station;missile warning station;aircraft firing device for single-use resources: antiradar cartridges, infrared cartridges, cartridges with disposable jammers; jamming station; non-coherent station for optical-electronic suppression; laser station for optical-electronic suppression.

>>563315997
go back

>>563315681
>ircm reduces lock on range instead of making it impossible for most seekers to lock from certain angles
Its retarded cause most IRCCM is either narrowing the seeker or turning it off so it wont do shit either way since the entire area is just fucking BLASTED with IR emissions
>DIRCM deflects IRCCM missiles like stingers but fails to do anything to more capable missiles for some krok reason despite it just being a more focused and directed IRCM emission
>LDIRCM properly forces missiles to fuck off since it properly blinds them but somehow it works on more than one missile at a time and from every angle out there
It should function like a constant search radar with emissions blasted from each sensor and whenever a missile intersects the scan sector a DIRCM turret should swivel and blast it with IR emissions if its possible but instead krokapes just code a 5 km circle of fuck you
>still no doppler shift on helicopter blades

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>>563315681
Doesn't even work IRL. Video is a AN/AAQ-24 LAIRCM from a shot down C-130

test

>>563316171
DIRCM countermeasures in general are implemented horribly if you could call that an implementation.
Also im still waiting for gayjew to address the fact that they literally added VITEBSK system to ka52 in patch notes around ixwa strike if i remember yet they never attributed it to ka52. It just sits there in the files

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>>563316435
well well well
what do we have here

What the fuck is the point of loadouts forcing loadouts with ARMs to have guided bombs when you can't fly high enough to use them without getting fucked by a BUK or Hawk?

>>563315997
No one cares

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>>563316435
I dunno man seems to be working pretty fucking well considering the purple glass is all blurred out
>>563315997
>my name is shenya
nigger sheeboon
>keofox
furry
>i wageslaved at gayjew embezzlement for 13 years
HOLY FUCK
>TL;DR
krokmonkeys cant into data security big news
>what happened to me personally
Got called he by Evgeniy Kononenko
Also kek kononowicz

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>Evgeniy Kononenko

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>>563316286
>Its retarded cause most IRCCM is either narrowing the seeker or turning it off so it wont do shit either way since the entire area is just fucking BLASTED
its true for some reason ka52 can be taken out with a stinger from 4km away or closer
>It should function like a constant search radar with emissions blasted from each sensor and whenever a missile intersects the scan sector a DIRCM turret should swivel and blast it
you are somewhat right, ka52 has several ultraviolet missile launch and approach sensors, the UV lamp pods (2 balls on the belly) do not constantly spin and search, they only fire. no radar bs, its all optical *I believe*
must I post the pics from butowski's book again?
>DIRCM deflects IRCCM missiles like stingers but fails to do anything to more capable missiles for some krok reason despite it just being a more focused and directed IRCM emission
its because the people that make iris missiles for example state their missiles defeat dircm

>>563316435
works irl, small caveat, has to be russian, see video

>>563317429
>promotional video
ass wipe

>>563316678
Not Taiwan, that's for sure.

>>563318519
keeeeeeeek

>>563315997
don't feel like reading all that
is that keofox or someone else

>>563318640
Yeah, it's him.

>>563318802
literally who

>>563315997
>unironic redditor
>i need a therapist, that's why they fired me

wtf I love Gaijin now?

>>563318841
newfag
>the only ever slightly down to earth gaijin employee
>got moved to enlisted for straight up telling people on ru forums that gaijin doesn't give a fuck about their bug reports
he was a faggot, but he was less of a faggot than most of them

>makes reddit seethe again
based anton

You are reddit.

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public execution of a*ton, still waiting for it

>>563321657
chase those subs, anon

>>563321657
buy 100 more

>>563317429
>you are somewhat right, ka52 has several ultraviolet missile launch and approach sensors, the UV lamp pods (2 balls on the belly) do not constantly spin and search, they only fire. no radar bs, its all optical *I believe*
must I post the pics from butowski's book again?
You misread me
I meant that heli sensors should act as a constant radar as in scan a certain viewcone coming from said sensor. Not just an omnipotent 365x365 degree zone of absolute detection. Search radars and IRST's in wt already function like that so why shouldn't heli sensors? That way sensor view would display each sensors view along with its deadzones.
Helicopter sensor arrays dont just overlap eachothers right from the get go so launching missiles from their deadzones should guarantee a hit considering that the missile was never detected in the first place.
The lower DIRCM turrets also have limited range of motion and their jamming should only affect a missile if it can turn towards it and in sensor view it should also be visible.
Gayjew should also apply that exact same logic to ground APS.

What i meant by calling it radar was that gaijin should reuse the same mechanics current radar systems already use in wt that we can visibly see within the sensor view instead of just making it ranged spherical killzones
On unrelated note, IRCM should if anything increase the possible lock on zone but at the same time make the missile sway and be less accurate the closer it gets since the closer it gets the more of its FOV gets obstructed by shining IR light. DIRCM was specifically designed to counter that limitation of regular IRCM.

only in /wtg/ will you see people hate gaijin and then moments later cock suck their dick if its against someone they vaguely dont like

>>563319427
>community menager
Who the fuck gives a shit? The game is ruled by vatnik dreams and whatever kremlin desires to be promoted.
Literal fucking nobody forum janny that had no say in what happens to the game.
Glad they fired him i hope they spent the money on some more krokodil and vehicle 3d models

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>>563323421
okay Evgeniy Kononenko whatever you say Evgeniy Kononenko

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>>563317769
attached

>>563322962
sorry for misreading
>I meant that heli sensors should act as a constant radar as in scan a certain viewcone coming from said sensor.
we need the same for lws then
>Helicopter sensor arrays dont just overlap eachothers right from the get g
what do you mean right from the getgo? I only know static sensors.
>The lower DIRCM turrets also have limited range of motion
well, full coverage under the helicopter which can tilt up a little and cover the whole battlefield ahead.

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>SEAD gives more points than air-to-air kills
>but air-to-air kills still give more SP, so you can rush nukes faster and just SEAD with nukes
The incompetency at Gaijin is astounding. Do they even play their own game?

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>>563316286
>>DIRCM deflects IRCCM missiles like stingers but fails to do anything to more capable missiles
DIRCM lasers shouldn't even do anything against stingers because most versions of them use dual-band IR+UV guidance. Stingers look for objects in front of the ultraviolet background light of the sky and infrared lasers would do nothing to a UV sensor.

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>>563324320
>we need the same for lws then
Hopefully. Sensor view is a great tool but the game still retains retarded 2016 era lazy implementations
>what do you mean right from the getgo? I only know static sensors.
Picrel, The sensors attached on the airframe require quite a narrow FOV when we account for the range of detection in turn creating blindspots up close that are not covered entirely. It may be a few hundred meters or even a kilometer you'd have to do the math but before they start overlapping there's quite a bit of blindzone area. Sure you could assume that those sensors have fov of 0.5 but then resolution at longer ranges would be so utterly dogshit that those sensors wouldn't detect anything.
>well, full coverage under the helicopter which can tilt up a little and cover the whole battlefield ahead.
Well, i'd like gaijin to make it necessary to tilt the helicopter instead of just relying on static krok forcefields.
RWR already works on that basis so why shouldn't DIRCM,IRCM,LWS ?
>>563325025
>Stingers look for objects in front of the ultraviolet background light of the sky and infrared lasers would do nothing to a UV sensor.
Once blasted with UV DIRCM they become vulnerable to flares. Also there are both UV and IR systems. Arms race is called an arms race for a reason.
I just want gaijin to implement those systems properly instead of halfassing it.

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>Spawn a nuke plane
>See min fuel
>Leave the plane on the runway
>Change the fuel amount
>"Not enough spawn points"

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about to unlock chinese rank 7, f104g or j7e? im only leaning towards the f104g since the stock j7e looks absolutely appalling with no missiles and only 60 rounds from what i can see, maybe im wrong though

>>563325970
Anon you're literally leaning towards one of the absolute worst jets in the game and away from one of the absolute best.

>>563325025
>the lamps (SP2-1500) inside the 2 turrets on the belly of the ka52 focus infrared and ultraviolet radiation at the enemy missile seekers, blinding them
please stop posting

>>563325258
on the right wing is a laser warning receiver. L370-2 is the missile sensor and there are 2 on the front and back. Ka-52M has better ones, L418-2E
>Well, i'd like gaijin to make it necessary to tilt the helicopter instead of just relying on static krok forcefields
indeed, mi28nm has this problem and its like the mi bureau would kill anton if he didnt make it unrealistic
>RWR already works on that basis so why shouldn't DIRCM,IRCM,LWS
Ka-52 has weird blindspots in game that shouldn't exist, regarding lws or rwr or maw, i cant remember which system it is

>>563325970
It doesn't have flares.

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>>563325970
104's are an acquired taste. G is probably the worst.

>>563326481
>G is probably the worst.
It's a worse J at a higher BR, that "probably" is unnecessary.

>>563326259
>on the right wing is a laser warning receiver. L370-2 is the missile sensor and there are 2 on the front and back. Ka-52M has better ones, L418-2E
Well the drawing was mainly to illustrate the idea i cant remember the actual camera locations from my head but you get the idea
>indeed, mi28nm has this problem and its like the mi bureau would kill anton if he didnt make it unrealistic
True lmao, though i still find it very sketchy with the mi28nm case.
At first they added it without LDIRCM, then they added one, and later down the line they just slapped a 3d model on the rear underside and i seriously doubt that a tiny glass dome can somehow act as a proper LDIRCM dazzler especially how ka52m is outfitted with two huge brand new (squareish) dazzlers
>Ka-52 has weird blindspots in game that shouldn't exist, regarding lws or rwr or maw, i cant remember which system it is
Fairly sure it was RWR
Also do you remember the few months when they made vikhrs and other laser beam riders spin around the laser beam but then suddenly reverted the change with no patchnotes?

>>563326481
surely after your first hundred games in that dogshit you stop playing them?

>>563326597
J has worse load outs and the worst TWR of all Starfighters and the worst RWR in the game

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when?

>>563315997
Can't wait for TEC to make a 40 minute vid about a reddit post

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FAB? FAB.

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ship deco when?

>>563315997
Pointless AI drivel outside of the "former employees have access to user data still" part. Maybe the second part will enlighten us on how they've been botting reviews, which is pretty obvious if you just look at the Steam page.

>>563326797
>Well the drawing was mainly to illustrate the idea
yes of course the idea was clearly put and I understand you, I work to eliminate misinfo about the subject, that is all.
>Fairly sure it was RWR
possibly that too, but it is MAWS, for sure, now that I remember it. you get a false sense of security if you turn around to evade a saclos spaa.
>Also do you remember the few months when they made vikhrs and other laser beam riders spin around the laser beam but then suddenly reverted the change with no patchnotes?
yeah the missiles were gimped too much, war thunder has this thing with removing a little realism to make room for run which I endorse

>>563327147
J has 6 9Ps, G has 4.

>>563327449
I recall the missiles being very funky with the constant G load from spinning but they were workable. I think they should have left it be rather than limiting possible missiles guided to two.

>>563327707
>limiting possible missiles guided to two.
its unlimited at least in the ka52 and mi28nm as long as they are launched within 4s

>>563327459
I didn't realise that, I never take more than 2 on the Starfighters.

>>563327006
thats what my little wurm looks like my tiny dick

>>563323421
Fuck you redditor tranny.

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So now that we have the B-52 can we get the V bombers?

>>563305168
Is it really that good at such a high br? it's still a fat fuck phantom

>>563327310
Fab.

I bomb.

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>>563328639
Check your profile

>>563328639
i need me vulcan

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>>563328639
>Shitain

never forget avro arrow

>>563328639
Britain try not to make something the ugliest thing ever challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

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>>563328639
>Britaly

>>563289563
I'm sure the IJN engineers told the crew of the Yamato that it could withstand anything too.

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when?

>>563249662
How are you gonna bomb airfields if they have ITO's?

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man the absolute fucking state of rank V-VI ARB is comical, I must've 'grinded' well over 400k rp since the horde came
>mutt-104, 106, Lightnings and Vixens all in the same team
>they still manage to lose almost every time

>>563323625
>Kononenko
>enko

Oooooooh, that's why he's an insufferable little bitch faggot.

>>563329741
keeeek

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>>563315997
>>563318640
>>563319006
I read the whole thing.
Tl;Dr a chud redditor went to the shrink and a bunch of chads and stacys at gaijin started bullying into getting fired.
He talks about how people already fired still might have access to your data tho, framing it as it's a "big deal", if only we weren't already in 2026 where everything is either leaked or traced.

desu it frames gaijin as more professional than i thought lol. If this is the "worst" this whistleblower found, gaijin has literally more morals than any by big western gaming company (excluding valve)

>>563329985
what makes him a chud

>>563329680
Man i love the Ariete. It would be so easy to defeat it if only people had more than one braincell, and yet there it is, dogfighting 5 people at once and killing them all.

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>>563330132
>>563330132
a ex-volounteer community manager (unpaid, loves muting you for 30 days because you said nigger), redditor, goes to the psychiatrist

>>563329985
+5 Golden Eagles!

>>563330121
gone but not forgotten

>>563329741
>kononenko vs jewdintsev
oy vey it's 1937 all over again

>>563330547
opposite of a chud

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>>563330561
>>563329985
keep coping jew
>this is who you are defending
>star of david as captcha

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yooo, lucky fucker got ballistic missiles from the random mod box

>>563330152
same, I just wish it'd stop disintegrating when trying to belly land above like 350kph

uncs gettin heated in the chat

>>563326072
yeah but i've been flying the A and even though i know it's a huge BR increase, i'm at least familiar with the flight model and i hate to have to throw GE at a tech tree plane just for it to feel not shit

>>563330902
>>star of david as captcha
sent me