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DARKNESS WITHIN DARKNESS WITHOUT Edition
>News:
Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mo de-and-cross-play_138
Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121
Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108
Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99
>Wiki:
https://bg3.wiki
>Mods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/
>FAQ:
>Q: How often should I long rest?
>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.
>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?
>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.
>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?
>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.
>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?
>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.
>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?
>A:No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.
>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?
>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.
>Polls:
>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6
>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ
>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA
>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnY
OP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpasta
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Gorion's Ward once said:
I am excited for Divinity
Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms is an official Dungeons & Dragons tm game.
Minthara is canonically 150 years old, pansexual and neutral evil
I collect barrels and throw them at every boss including Minthara
Minthara did not watch Viconia leave in her childhood
Minthara is the throat goat
I respect all women but Minthara
If you romance Minthara you are a horrible person
If you romance Astarion you are a great person
I ascended Astarion
I romanced ascended Astarion
I play with lots of mods on
I fucked Halsin and Shadowheart at the same time and loved it
Shadowheart is right not to use her birthname
Shadowheart is not chaotic evil
Shar is neutral evil
Gale was groomed by Mystra
I play sorcerer
I camp cast
You can't find Mayrina's brothers' corpses
Karlach is okay for using soul coins
Wyll is a real character
I sympathized with Ketheric
I play male Tav
I love dragonborns, halflings, gnomes and dwarves
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I dare you. I double dare you. I triple dog dare you to stop playing Baldur's Gate 3 and uninstall it.
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the ever vigilant frog never sheathes her crossbow
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>I can tell you this - when the trivial parts have been whittled away, and I have sifted through what remains, in most cases a person amounts to nothing at all.
Minthara is so wise and well-spoken.
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>>563473545
Swash stays relevant in and out of combat, upclose and at distance.
The only thing I've ever seen anyone do with hunter ranger is a STR build that used the sword of chaos and the healing necklace to run up to groups of enemies and do the whirlwind attack to gain life and tank damage. It's a fine build but situational and doesn't do the thing until act 3.
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>gale gets put into the wyll corner
lmfao
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>>563474313
I HATE WIZARDS.
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>>563474110
Hunter Ranger does get Volley which is legit one of the best abilities in the game. AoE attack that applies all your damage riders to each enemy in the AoE. But again it only comes online in Act 3 because they get it at level 11.
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>>563473618
She does have a lot of good lines. She also tells a couple rather funny jokes. What's there is indeed good, she just has less of it since she doesn't join until halfway through act 2.
Quality over quantity is quite alright with me.
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>>563475212
I love act 3
>>563475783
minthara was the only other character that made me laugh out loud after lae'zel
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>"Redhammer is a godless fool, but his love of gold outweighs any moral qualms he might have - he will do for now."
>wrote the Black Gauntlet in charge of the SW about the Dwarf
Yet I have mixed feelings about handing over this dude to the Waveservants for a good old fashioned eye-for-an-eye. Yes, I realize he's not a saint and I his read journal and notes. I'm not talking about the usual circles here. Pic rel was my first convo with him. He spilled the beans without any pressure, get us to the place without the promise of protection, didn't flinch when Gortash threatened us nor when the detonations happened and actually waited for us while we were inside. Redhammer had multiple opportunities to fuck over our party big time yet he handled every challenge without a peep and turned out to be a vital part of our rescue mission.
I'm thinking about knocking the Waveservanst out with Non-Lethal attacks in the inevitable fight as a compromise. I don't give a damn about the quest rewards.
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>circus performers shouldn't wear make up especially the elves, the twinkiest of dnd races
>dragonborns shouldn't sell weapons
>aylin should be a male because lesbians are gross or something
my GOD chuds are lame no wonder they're losing everything right now ruining videogames is all they have left
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oh my god I love when the game allows you to be a retard, LOVE IT
another great moment is when you tell the emperor that you refuse to give him an information and he tells you that he can literally read your mind
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>>563482776
Don't bully the chuds, they just lost Thisobald.
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>>563474714
>Force what?
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You don't have a high enough WIS to resist or you just decide to embrace it?
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>>563480071
Shit. I guess you can call this karma. I ended up separating the question into two: I gave him up, as that's what we agreed in the temple; then attacked the waveservants with Non-Lethal attacks to give Redhammer a chance to get out of the city. Gortash dislikes loose ends after all and it was the priestess' leader who forced this into a "he or us" situation with the threat of deadly violence. Optimally I would've been able to finish the fight with all "mermaids" Knocked Out while keeping Redhammer from delivering the killing blow on any of them but shit happens. At least he will rest next to his beloved Cap instead at the depths of a cold cave after being waterboarded to death.
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>>563502228
Looks like the Bitch Queen will have her due.
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ok so far the only bg3 companion mods people are working on are:
>the 4(6?) from the menzobarrenzan mod that will drop god knows when
>the helia restoration mod
>a dropped(?) male drow warlock mod
>and last but not least, a gay, trans female to male jewish gay half elf cowboy wizard, no I'm not kidding and the worst part is that it's the highest quality mod of the bunch as far as I know
and all of that after getting 3 years to cook and the dev tools, what the fuck, fucking skyrim gets companion mods every week
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>>563502990
The funniest part of this was the rescued NPCs casually strolling all over the place (in real time) while you were stuck fighting Water Elements (in turn-based mode). Even better they were treated as allies who benefited from all your AoE healings and buffs despite not participating in the fight. I wonder if Ulder would've been treated the same way (remember, we had him as an attached follower before!) but he only emerged from Cap after we were finished. How convenient!
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>>563505548
>a gay, trans female to male jewish gay half elf cowboy wizard
Is that the Jason?? one. I can't believe they put effort into making that.
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Cowards
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>Is that the Jason?
yup, I checked the comments on the mod page because I figured that there's no way someone autistic enough to make a mod this good doesn't have a few screws loose and it turns out that jason is the modder's self insert and he's so autistic about it that he's working on ways to tweak the game's data to only allow male tavs & origin to romance his OC, there you have it, one of the best bg3 mod is about a gay elf cowboy KEK
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>>563506274
>>a gay, trans female to male jewish gay half elf cowboy wizard
>it turns out that jason is the modder's self insert
Imagine my surprise!Every.Damn.Time.
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The parasite's newfound interest in the personal lives or views of mod authors is not on topic. And oh my god, did you see how the author of Really Shadowheart got banned from nexusmods? The same goes for its fixation on how openly gay and degenerate the writers are - to say nothing of the sick and twisted mind (Welch) that came up with the romance between the Dark Urge and Astarion. If that creature could understand characterization, it wouldn't be clamoring for a Sazza or "femboy" Geraldus companion mod. But this is what it has to offer. Stupidity and ugliness.
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>just noticed Omeluum gave me a backpack with all his stuff after teleporting home
T-thanks? Creation's Echo in the middle is a dead giveaway. The numbers are off (see >>563405037) but this more or less his inventory's content. I knew I sold him my remaining supply from the Nautiloid so that might explain the difference between the two.
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>>563511221
Lae'zel had a similar opinion about Orin except she called her a "shivering child". Neither statement is particularly on point imho.
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>>563475783
Beautiful. Minthara, I mean. The line deserves some credit, too. There is wisdom in recognizing the paradox of Karlach - "ferocious and unassailable", and yet so "fragile and impermanent." Maybe Minthara is a bard after all. Most people, whether inside or outside the story, can only see the surface - they stop at appearance. But this story is not about ordinary people - who, in most cases, amount to nothing at all - or surface-level beauty. This story is about extraordinary individuals, beautiful in their existence.
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>>563513659
Karlach is a cutie, too bad the Avernus content was all cut
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Helia...
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That act three sex scene is nasty. Here I thought I was having a nice vanilla romance with her, a good wholesome Christian relationship, true love with a cute genki tomboy type who I couldn't even kiss for such a long time, when suddenly I get that perverted shit forced on me. And right after such an innocent dinner date scene, too. At least give me a choice if you're going to insert your fetishes into your game.
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>>563516274
>this is the cope they have to come up with
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What's your favorite track on the OST?
https://youtu.be/8Tc2bxO0qMw
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https://youtu.be/5TCOtEJD6zk?si=OK9ubMHc5Tu-sz-h
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What would you reply to a fella who argues their story is pretty much the same?
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>>563519513
This HAS to be bait
whiner pull up the copypasta about the soundtrack, I don't remember what I wrote
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>I dont like this opinion, it MUST BE BAIT!!!
retards
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>>563519778
BAFTAs they have a different weight than that useless TGA show filled with commercials
>>563520195
If you want to say that something respected and appreciated by many has no value, you'd better argue a bit instead of just posting "contrarian content" for the sake of generating engagement with your post
sadly this has been the mo for many around these parts
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>>563520393
What's the point of providing actual arguments on this general? Even if I did put effort in, it would be either ignored or otherwise shitposted on so that people can get back to posting Lae'zel over and over
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how far into the game before you reach a level with enough fun stuff unlocked?
i keep making new characters and have only made it to the entrance of the goblin camp
but every class feels like the same, why can't you start at level 5?
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>>563520696
thats a whole other discourse
but then again, to remain consistent then it wouldn't even make sense to write that the music sucks to begin with
be the change you want to see, anon
cut Gale's hand
stab astarion with a stake
throw the Spectator flask during the thiefling camp party
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post lvl5, around the goblin camp, is where characters become fun and builds more viable
>why can't you start at level 5
something something tadpoles eat their brains
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>Even if I did put effort in, it would be either ignored or otherwise shitposted
you can thank the sharter elements ITT for that, they are consistently the lowest quality posters, constantly posting "kys" to well thought out posts from the namefag
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The swine cannot go two posts without being self-referential. I briefly considered answering that question as well. But animals are incapable of understanding characterization or character arcs. They see a similarity - both Lae'zel and Shadowheart renounce their goddesses, both Astarion and Karlach were slaves - and misidentify that as a "theme." But surface-level similarities or even shared traits are not automatically themes. You're not saying anything about trauma by giving every character a traumatic backstory.
>All parental figures and surrogates in this game are awful
>like a telling tale of the writers' relationships with their parents...weird.
Genuine, not performative, stupidity, by the way. This is what the subhuman has to offer, when it's not joking about Astarion being sexually abused.
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no no no I said the other one about music and the soundtrack, don't you want to actually contrinute to the discussion for once?
you could have been useful for once, sigh
>by giving every character a traumatic backstory
literally and factually every origin character in this game btw
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>>563520874
Subclasses unlock at level 3. What did you expect before that? Martial gets a big boost at 5 with Extra Attack but even caster classes get their second Subclass Feature by 6. If that's somehow still not enough by that time you should have collected enough magical items to spice things up.
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You are very annoying
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>>563519778
>"The music is awesome because it won many awards!"
Appeal to popularity.
>"I like Swen because Swen is liked by everyone!"
Circular reasoning.
There is a pattern. These are the same stupid creatures that accuse others of adopting contrarian talking points for engagement. Of course, stupidity is not something that they need to feign - it comes very naturally to them. For the record, I like the soundtrack. It's difficult to pick just one favorite, but lately I've been listening to Down By The River.
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fine I'll do it myself then, sigh!
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no, this is: https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/22308
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incredible
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huh what
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daily shadowbaby
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good, it's corny as fuck
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dang twitter found out about all the cut bg3 plotlines
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>"Wizard..."
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the summer game fest...I can smell it...bg3's successor...the biggest baddest coolest deepest larian game yet...and the coolest part is that it's still not swen's dream game...it really is a good day to be a larian fan
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>>563533531
For the record I'm not that Anon. I should've probably said that. I just remembered I had a fitting screenshot for this Wizard meme.
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OC fresh out of the oven? If so well done!
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The wait is unbearable tbqhbbw
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>>563540285
1 month and a half left before they reveal some of the companions
bg3's companions were one of the best thing about the game, I got high expectations
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>>563540729
nothing stops you from discussing this in the proper general, cRPG
would you still doing this bit if it didnt piss of the whiner? I bet theres more people there if you really want to discuss next larian's game
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I'm unsure about what's the best ending for Wyll. Leaving up to his own devices he chooses to be theBlade of Avernus.Which sounds a pretty idiotic without his Warlock powers. Throwing himself into an endless meat grinder until he gets overwhelmed? Maybe if he had some terminal illness and wanted to spent the rest of his life on a suicide mission it'd make sense. Speaking of which the only reason I'm considering this option is tohave somebody accompany Karlach to the Hell.It's still a pretty idiotic move and I feel we just delaying the inevitable but it at least has an additional purpose now.
I'm not sure if there's a Persuasion check involved in convincing her to choose that route but if it does that adds some uncertainty to my low CHA Tav. Back to Wyll we also have the Mizorawanting to take revenge on the Grand Dukeissue, so having the Blade nearby for practical and political reasons makes a lot of sense. Especially if you take into account how Gortashmass slaughtered the nobles who attended his coronation.I know he's not too fond of diplomacy but he has the necessary skills and pedigree for the job. Meanwhile the one above is the only ending I consider "good" for (non-romanced) K, so it's hard to decide what to do.
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oh yes why would people POSSIBLY talk about the game that's teased in bg3, has cameos in bg3, is made by the same devs that made bg3 and is about to have a trailer in less than 2 months yeah why would ANYONE talk about it on the baldur's gate 3 general surely it has to because of some off topic reason right?
my GOD you guys are lame, I'll keep talking about divinity because it's on topic and I'm excited, don't like it? filter away
bitch
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>>563542736
what I'm trying to say to you, in the clearest and non hostile way possible, is that yes, it's kind off topic talking about about "Divinity" in the "Baldur's Gate 3" general thread. we all know its the same developers and theres easter eggs to their previous work, but you dont seen people discussing fallout 76 in TES generals
its different games, matter of fact, one of them is not even out yet and we only have a cinematic trailer to discuss
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> is that yes, it's kind off topic talking about about "Divinity" in the "Baldur's Gate 3" general thread.
IT'S NOT OH MY GOD THEY LITERALLY SHARE THE SAME MULTIVERSE
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>>563543487
how? he literally interacts with lenore in act 1?
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the sharrans in act 3
yall are just playing the thread police at this point, I don't see any of you bitching about the resident shitposters & the cropped cuckporn spam only the heartfelt posts about divinity or bg3 mods
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The issue with debating this is that Wyll never articulates any goals for himself, he's just there for others and his story reflects this.
Every other character at least has some goal they intent to achieve after completing the main quest, Wyll is just a blank slate going from quest to quest without personal drive.
So the entire decision just comes down what is good for others, and the choice there is clear
>keep the pact (dad remains alive and can help rebuild Baldur's Gate)
>go to hell with Karlach (making the choice to become duke irrelevant anyway)
You can argue about it if Karlach is either dead, you want to see her explode or become a squid but, then Wyll is free to become a Duke but with the pact intact, it's basically a ticking timebomb that needs to have a solid Plan B.
Breaking the pact, saving his dad and becoming Duke would be the best option, though that ending is pretty niche and also has Mizora actively seek revenge upon the Ravenguards.
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>>563535294
Ah, my apologies then.I actually forgot about Naaber. While his antics are fun the first time, it's not really a fun interaction on repeat playthroughs as the only things that change are your responses and his response to that. The overall flow is the exact same every time.
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hag love
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>>563544606
>something needs to affect gameplay to be significant
ive never seen someone be so wrong
if these kinds of things didnt matter then books in every rpg would be empty because there would be no point to environmental storytelling
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I found a shadowheart ponytail in the wild
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unfortunately you are not the final arbiter on what does or doesnt count
now unlike the other guy im not saying for sure he is entangled in the forgotten realms lore and really did cross over universes
im just saying you cant really say definitively that hes wrong just that anything he has is speculative or circumstantial at best to be desu i agree with you that claiming they share the same multiverse is a stretch but he should be allowed to speculate on tarquins existence in forgotten realms not about the rest of the divinity stuff
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shit meant for >>563545724
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see what I'm talking about? they put more efforts into bitching & whining than actually talk about bg3
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>>563543987
>yall are just playing the thread police at this point
No, it's just that more posters are starting to realize that you're a worthless parasite using the "tangentially related" pretext to shit up threads. There can be no pretense that >>563533006 and >>563540729 are on topic, let alone meant to spark any meaningful discussion. Then again, neither is sharing some random tweet or youtube comment. Different anons react to your obnoxious presence in different ways. Most are indifferent. The Lae'zel spammer will create early threads to prevent your shitty, low-effort, advertising ones. And I started calling out that shit months ago, when that behavior started becoming truly intrusive. Reminder that generals die not because of a lack of activity - or "engagement," as the unintelligent swine puts it - but because of apathy. Crying about the non-character or Minthara is at least vaguely "on topic." Stick to that.
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>>563521821
To be fair it's hard for Vlaakith to be a good parental figure when Gith is the only one in the species to be called "mother"and she's still alive and trapped in Dispater's tower.
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Alright gentlemen who should I romance? Aerie, Viconia, or Jaheria?
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What kind of person self-inserts as a bugbear plapping a she-ogre unless it is to troll?
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>>563553046
speak for yourself, wyll's lack of personality is super duper annoying
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>>563550843
To be fair, it's rather heavy-handed that every Origin companion has a complicated and often abusive relationship with an authority figure (often divine) who shaped their lives. It's not exactly an insightful observation to make - even the average redditor can make a Venn diagram about it. But once again, a repeated motif is not automatically a theme. You're not saying anything meaningful about religion or faith just by having Lae'zel, Shadowheart, Minthara, and the Dark Urge lose faith and outright renounce their gods. Motif is observable. Theme (meaning) is interpretative. A story means something to the average person. The swine suggests that Astarion was tortured for the better part of two hundred years only because his writer must have a bad relationship with his dad. That's the extent of its "intellect."
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>>563553565
The loreful insight re: Lae'zel is that being abused by Vlaakith is part of being a githyanki, if she was a githzerai being abused by an authority figure could be something specific to her as an individual.
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you guys said he wasn't companion material...
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>>563554361
In the rather unlikely case BG3 needed some chud who's obsessed with Aylin as a companion, Balthazar still has him beat.
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>>563554795
aradin got skibidi rizz with that haircut of his and him butting head with tav to see who gets to lead the party would have been hilarious
fun fact: Aradin's party is named the Beno Boys even though one of the member is a woman
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Right. It's also possible Lae'zel doesn't even conceptualize it as abuse. She doesn't view herself as a victim. She feels heartbroken and betrayed upon learning the truth, of course, but that's different. That's the danger in trying to equate characters and companions simply because they share a similar character arc. Lae'zel is not Shadowheart is not Minthara is not the Dark Urge. Any attempt to flatten these characters and put them all into a tiny box is misguided at best, and entirely stupid at worst. But nuance in characterization doesn't get award ceremonies, so the swine was never told it's there. At least it can post its favorite track.
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I did it.
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>>563553862
That was just in 2023. Game's sold 20+ million copies now, and is one of the highest grossing paid games on Steam.
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>>563561159
>pure delusion
yep shart is a sharer and lae'zel doesn't share
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I guess that's a no?
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>>563561969
no it doesn't get tiring, it makes you sharters seethe every time it's hilarious.
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Canonical ending? Everyone dies except Shadowheart and Durge. Realm is repopulated entirely by Lizard/Half-Elf Bhaalspawn.
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High-quality webbum. Have a frog.
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>>563561368
lae'zel's writer literally planned her to be with shart
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I don't think I've ever actually done the Astarion romance so I just wanted to know if there's a chance or if this is a hard wall. Outside the romance he is supportive, saying that he doesn't really give the impression of someone who would care. I'll go in blind, but the potion I'm getting is for him to use so I hope that will help.
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iirc the line went something along the lines of "All the promiscuous jibes paint a picture of someone who would relish the deed. You couldn't really have known." I know he would care, I mean that he understands that the player may not have known the true meaning of making him do that until he tells you. In the platonic version, anyway.
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>>563565267
I like characters that make me feel like I'm not in a party of moralfags. Lae'zel, Shadowheart, Astarion, Minthara, and Gale are all my standard go-to's.
>Gale
Is more of a neutralfag, honestly. Maybe Neutral Good.
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hm
>>563564049
cute frog
>>563564589
unfortunately reality does not reflect your ego!
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>>563565267
he's a funny sounding homosexual
>>563565718
ack and wyll i consider good since they leave if you assault the grove but gale is like neutral neutral since he can be convinced to stay
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>>563566652
kevin vanord created lae'zel. he thinks for lae'zel. he thinks shart is her ideal partner.
kevin even created this for origin shart. its like a hundred times more romantic than anything tav can say to her
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>>563567320
there isn't even a canon until the show comes out and continues their storylines. stop malding so much. shart is her preferred match
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did you miss what i said? there isn't a canon until the show comes out. we don't know if orpheus is alive or dead, among many other things. shadowzel could be canon in the show, it might not.
kevin still would have put inter-companion romances in the game if the project didn't get re scoped though. he wanted shadowzel
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>using some fag companion mod when we already have fagstarion (who you can play as origin, give a cool haircut + tattoos, and put in a loving, heterosexual, monogamous relationship with best girl Laelae, thus negating any gay bullshit from his VA/writer and just playing him as a cool vampire)
>couldn't be me
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>>563568518
no? the writers prefer shadowzel. the show director said he's gonna be working with the videogame va's. jennifer english and devora wilde like shadowzel too. it's a pretty popular ship. use some basic common sense man
>>563568669
yeah he's just really mad. i'm not even a waifufag. i like every female companion
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>>563569183
the reality is that shadowzel is canon
tav is not canon and therefore nothing you experience as tav is canon
durge is also not canon as they are dead in all timelines except one
only origins are canon and in shart or laezel origin they are extremely horny for each other
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>tav only exists when you play it
>durge is only alive if you play as him
>origins exist no matter what choice you make
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT MENTION ORIGINS THEY ARENT CANOOOOONNNNNNN
really makes you think doesnt it
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>>563569540
you tried to compare origin karlach raiding the grove to shadowzel. one situation is the player deliberately acting contrary to companion karlach. the other situation is a nod to content that was planned but had to be cut for the sake of a timely release date for the game. shadowzel doesn't run contrary to either of their characters
you are the king of disingenuous arguments
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hey I made that one! thank you based frog enjoyer
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The answer is no one gives a fuck about your "canon" except people who are autistic and have to define their actual world view on fictional video game characters. I have never seen anyone ask what is canon except here, and we know 4chan attracts autists like flies to honey. I will simply enjoy the game while you continue to spew your schizobabble here regardless of whether I am present or not.
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well as you progress through the acts you'll come across weapons that are +1, +2 and eventually +3. you do want to swap a +1 for a +2 and a +2 for a +3 because that'll both increase your chance to hit AND the damage you deal
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kek and i made that oh baby edit, good times
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the final defense of the sharter
>shart lusting after halsin isn't canon because there is no canon!
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I'm not using Lae'zel this run, but whoever shilled EK I'd like to thank you. I'm using the 1d6 Lightning damage bound weapon and it feels good. Only downside is that being a third class spellcaster means that I functionally have no access to magic.
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Astarion!
He's the pookie.
Astarion!
So perfect and spooky.
Astarion!
The beating of our liiiiiivvveeesss.
Astarion!
Oh so handsome~
Astarion!
Infinite wisdom.
Astarion!
I want to give him all my blooooodd...
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the poke squad
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>>563570480
kek the fucking chance that we post each others maymays. blessed by the cute frog
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must be the psionics
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I just learned that if you polymorph someone, you can Power Word: Kill them and they actually do die.
Also, breaking a poly counts as a kill, so it triggers Durge's cloak. So sorc Durge can really break the game.
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aaaaand we're back
good morning /bgg/
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>>563588071
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>Breaking the pact, saving his dad and becoming Duke would be the best option
All things considered I still think this the best option despite Mizora's plotting. Wyll's original contract uses his dad and only him as collateral. I feel if you asked the Grand Duke to choose betweenrelinquishing his life and Wyll's eternal servitude to the Hellshe wouldn't hesitate to pick the former. Not just because Ulder comes across as the hero type or that as a life-long soldier he must've made peace with these thoughts long time ago. From a practical perspective he can just continue to live his life and dodge assassination attempts probably the same way he always did as the pact doesn't have an active deadline. As long as he"dies by an enemy's hand"the condition is fulfilled.
All in all I'm afraid I have to resolve this by applying real life pragmatism to the situation: which endings will leave my hands untied for future playthroughs? I can stomach Karlachblowing up much better than her mind-flayerending (I didn't plan to bring her to the final fight anyway...) and her third option is probably best utilized if you romanced her. Wyll's default ending also synergies well with this if you don't mind a third wheel. Or if you romance her with Wyll as an origin character. So unless some new discovery turns everything upside down I'm going to go withGrand Duke Wyll and overheating Karlach.Thanks for the input!
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Is there a mod that lets you backtrack dialogue choices so you can explore different options without reloading? Some conversations require very specific circumstances and it's a waste not to explore them fully, but all the loading screens make me want to kill myself.
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Not that I know of but as somebody who does this (I mean exhausting entire dialogue trees) on the regular using all 4 of your party members can noticeably speed thing up. The general formula is that initiating a convo with a "new" character should get you where you were when you did the same with your MC. With a systematic approach you might not even need to reload once to see everything a specific NPC has to say.
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I don't even help Shadowheart escape the nautiloid anymore
I stand and watch her pound on the pod, and I say outloud "You know what you did." Then I turn and leave.
Halsin? Dies in the goblin cages. And then I restart. I have done this around 30 times now.
I will never forget what you took from me Halsin.
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The pain and intensity and jealousy still hit me like the first time I found out that her heart and also "down there" yearns for him
Over time my anger and frustration have ... turned to something else
I... I want him to do it
the betrayal that stabbed like a dagger now pulses in my chest, catching my breath and making my heart beat like a drum as I admit it
Yes... Halsin...
Take my Shaddy as yours. Caress her body with your hands and mouth.
Enter her with your great oak staff and bring her the pleasure I cannot.
... Please ...
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"Sh.. Shadowheart? Shaddy?"
>She sighs a little, polite but annoyed by the interruption, "Yes, Tav, what is it? You know it takes longer with interruptions"
>"Wh-why do you .. um... taste like Goodberry...?"
>"Erm, new soap I suppose now please get back to work"
>she goes back to obviously casting a Sending spell to someone while you continue to lick her 'down there'
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nah its the obese obsessed schizo
here he is >>563594418
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This is awkward considering they made a whole bit about Aliona's squirrel following Shadowheart around in the epilogue
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Voice actors' personal lives are not on topic. Who Jennifer and Neil (we're clearly on a first name basis at this point) are dating is not on topic. What Swen had for breakfast is not on topic. Crazy how difficult it is for some parasites to stay on topic.
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>>563597408
pretty sure aliana works at larian, that's how they met and I doubt the second most famous bg3 VA won't work with larian again, she voiced a character in the 3 latest game of the year, gotta keep the streak going lol
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>>563586930
ALL over, too.
It's a shame... my gobwife needs greasy, smelly, thick pubes.
>>563598091
I got the 5e mods, I got Power Word: Kill as a regular level 9 spell.
Only usable once per long rest, but still more than once, so it's nice. With my level scaling and difficulty mods, there is no way I'd ever be able to use it without poly.
I see they made captcha even more shit... why must we 4chuds be so oppressed
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>>563597186
All /bgg/ posters are already furiously typing out pre-prepared halsinposts one-handed while also stalking Jennifer's socials to see if she has hooked up with some bear of a man.
By the time Larian next releases news, every post on /bgg/ shall be a cuckpost, and so it will be for Divinity general. /crpg/ won, Owlchads won.
So sayeth the wise Alaundo.
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>All /bgg/ posters are already furiously typing out pre-prepared halsinposts one-handed while also stalking Jennifer's socials to see if she has hooked up with some bear of a man.
>By the time Larian next releases news, every post on /bgg/ shall be a cuckpost,
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>>563600647
people ITT shouldn't have standards this high, none of you chumps got the three 6s
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I know what you're talking about but I can assure you this wasn't the case here. If you're using an external program for screenshots you can hide the UI with F10 in those lightning adjustment scenes and make your shots under the original conditions. Unlike Photo Mode time doesn't stop but I guess that compromise has to be made there.
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>and from here we can see anon's cringe
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>>563610081
Would hug. I have yet to romance her
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Wait, does using illithid wisdom count as using the parasite? The Emperor treated me as if I hadn't been using my parasite. Do you guys know if I still need to make the DC21 save for the Astral-Touched Tadpole if I haven't been using parasites but have been using illithid wisdom?
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That's likely a different check. At least, according to the wiki.
>Although the Narrator's comments and companions' concerns may imply otherwise, the sole negative consequence of using the illithid powers skill tree is that the player character must pass a WIS Save if they wish to avoid Partial Ceremorphosis when they first obtain the Astral-Touched Tadpole at the end of Act Two. Illithid Persuasion does not impose this saving throw, and is completely consequence-free.
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Thanks anon. I assume they exclude illithid persuasion because it's unlocked by default. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to have to make the save. If I still had to make the save I may as well start using the tadpole powers, you know?
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>I do see some narrative there.With Minthara, you just slaughtered a whole grove of druids and defenseless refugees. The game absolutely makes you see what you're doing, children scattered on the ground, the adults sheltered in Zevlor's room that just cower without attacking back but you kill them all anyway, goblins talking about chopping off their horns for trophies.It's very brutal, very graphic. If an act like this were to be followed by a cut to black scene, it'd be anticlimatic. So the game throws you an explicit sex scene, which rides off the shock of your atrocity. It's brilliant in my opinion.
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Clearly, what we need to revive interest is for the parasite to repost some tweet or copypaste some reddit comment. Always great conversation starters. Maybe talk about Jen (that's the nickname for Jennifer English) and her personal life, or speculate about her likely upcoming role in Larian's Next Game. Or maybe the swine can once again sing (squeal) the praises of Slavov (the modern-day Wagner), the composer of Baldur's Gate 3 (the Lord of the Rings of video games). Bring up the numerous awards the soundtrack won if there's anyone stupid enough to disagree. There's more to do if we can only live.
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https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/22290
Changing hair at night and then putting it back in a bun for the day is a nice detail
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/22156
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"She uses several mods like me!" exclaims anon excitedly. "I see the lady put in Alfira, Raphael, Isobel, and Aylin [in] her game," squealed the pig in recognition, after the April 1st stream was uploaded to youtube, in clear reference to its own doubling of the party size. Finally, its "roleplaying" was validated by an indisputable authority - Larian employee Aoife, stream host and "content creator." Take that, mod haters. When everything is social media, the way to drive up engagement (the most important metric) is to signal that you're just as cool and quirky as the average slop enthusiast. The (cool) lizard fetishist was already appeased with the Dark Urge's default appearance, but it remains to be seen whether the (quirky) full-bosomed Withers enjoyer will get a bone thrown at them. Fingers crossed for the third anniversary.
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Where did they post this?
That mod is the only thing that keeps me attached to the game with genuine interest, I can't wait to play it.
That one and the expanded Act 2 mod some people is working on, I hope to see more fan made content for this game. Based modders.
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Only Lord Gortash can protect the city from the world-ending monstrosity of the Absolute.
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ehhh
>All female ofc
fine
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My post was also talking about mods. More specifically, cheats that become validated whenever the cheats-like-me Larian employee streams. And that's really all the justification the worthless cheater ever needs, isn't it? Who cares about honest gameplay or the narrative when "engagement" (whether on twitter or 4chan) is the name of the game. You don't draw as much attention with a default party size of four. You don't draw as much attention if you just play the vanilla version of the game.
>ban evading
Funny you would say that. Here's a documented case where the swine got banned for a "vague threat" against the voice actresses, and promptly evaded the ban to complain about it.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/498462673/#498549286
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/498462673/#498554440
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Mintharafag recently mentioned that mod as well.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/563224335/#563257251
Discussing interesting and upcoming mods is perfectly fine here. But pay attention to the way it's done. Normal posters can discuss mods without making it about themselves. The swine, unsurprisingly, will do that only if it can also gratuitously attach its signature slop.
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This is Shart's Act. You can't go wrong having her in the party non-stop. Hell, she has a unique scene like 5 steps into the SCL already! Other than that here's what I recommend.
Have Karlach and Wyll in your party when you enter Last Light. Talk to Dammon (outside), then Mattis, Florrick (side room) then Jaheira. This way you get to see all unique reactions with these NPCs. Mol is to the left in the middle of a lanceboard game. Have Astarion (if you want to learn about his scars here - also available later near the Mausoleum!) or Gale (avid lanceboard player - you can help her with other ways too) in the party when you interact with her. Shart has some comments upon meeting Isobel but nothing major.
Go to Moonrise with Karlach (bugbear merchant) - Astarion (Araj the drow sanguine researcher) - Gale (Balthazar's secret room) party. All of them will net you some palpable rewards, in case of the last two the unique kind.
For the Mausoleum and Gauntlet it's Astarion (especially if he skipped the Inn, the main NPC here is the "price" of the knowledge about his scars) - Shart (obvious) - Wyll (not involved, just extremely useful as a Warlock with high CHA to pass some hard checks there). If you want to use Wyll for the latter separate your party and send your Tav far away, otherwise the cutscene forces him to be the avatar in the dialogue. And he probably doesn't have a [WARLOCK] tag nor high CHA.
As for the last area and the (last) boss battle: Wyll is a must to get a unique item there (ask for a reward!), Gale has a scene strictly related to his personal quest and Karlach gets surprised. Go back to the camp after everything is done and make sure to have Shart in your party when you talk to Aylin.
Lae'zel is only important while advancing towards the City through the gate. Have her in the active party by that time, and make sure to not replace her before you reach Rivington properly.
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alright now that we're almost 3 years past bg3's release what do we think of the party overall?
I feel like half of the party is either unfinished or badly written and that way too many backstories/races are similar I feel like we needed larian to sprinkle in more grounded and less tied to gods/major baldur's gate players I think there's a reason people wanted zevlor/alfira/kagha/nere in the party, they're a smaller deal than a the future chosen of shar/mystra but are still tied to the plot, like, did gale really need to be friend with fucking elminster? idk it really gives marvel movie vibes (I'm sorry), after the lack of race/story diversity my next biggest pet peeve is the lack of companion interactions after act 1 which sucks because even the act 1 scenes were rushed and didn't amount to anything
still, the quality of some of the companions is enough to redeem the party
Shadowheart, Laezel, Astarion, Gale & Karlach are complex character and you definitley feel like you shape their stories, Jaheira is amazing too, the rest are undercooked(minthara), show up way too late (Minsc) or a just garbage that should make their writers ashamed of themselves oh my god they're so fucking bad put them out of their misery yuck(Halsin & wyll)
my biggest wishes for divinity is that we get more diverse companions(less chosen ones, less human & elves), companions that feel just as complete as shadowheart & astarion and way way more character interactions, make them fight each other or bang or link up to betray the player or force the player to actually choose between two or them or something give me some drama oh and give us a bard come on now every party needs a bard or two everybody loved leliana in dragon age and even dos2 had one
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As much as I like them, jaheira and minsc aren't really needed as full companions. I like them for the flavor they give, but they would have been better as some kind of non-combat side characters if bg3 even has a system for that.
Wyll and karlach both feel like they're underdeveloped as a result of the hells section being cut, and their inclusion should have been heavily reconsidered with its removal.
Halsin and minthara are both underdeveloped. Both don't join early enough and suffer greatly for it. Minthara has at least ties to orin and act 3, but halsin feels out of place in the city. Not to mention two druids is retarded.
Gale needed to be less smarmy.
Agreed on needing more low-power characters. I'm personally okay with the elves+humans, since those are the most common player races. Probably should have had a regular dwarf though. There are hardly even NPCs that are dwarves, so it feels lacking.
Shart is too special imo, but I'd be lying if I said my main party wasn't her, astarion and laezel for most playthroughs
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>As much as I like them, jaheira and minsc aren't really needed as full companions.
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>less humans and elves
It's worth reminding that DAO companions like Leliana and Morrigan are remembered fondly because they were girls from non-ugly/short race
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The parasite that wishes Minthara were replaced by Sazza or Helia. The swine that triples the party size and turns a hireling into "Orin." There is a pattern. For the creature that is wowed by cheap and colorful "representation" - whether the midget bard or the token dragonfreak - the overwhelmingly human and elven cast of BG3 was a disappointment. Why have larger-than-life characters in fantasy when you can just have Alice the apprentice wizard and Quil the aspiring bard as your much more grounded companions? Everyone knows every fantasy story needs a bard. Now that's how you write a memorable cast - by checking some boxes and being derivative.
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>>563680673
nah you have it the wrong way, because the namefag is consistently correct and accurate in his statements backed up gameplay elements nad screenshots his haters would hate him whether he 's a sazzafag or Xfag because its inevitable that shart gets accurately called a whore
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Yeah sorry about that
hope its not happing right now again with this very post
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I wonder how the game will play out if I leave her on the beach, theres a big chunk of side quest that just disappears if Shart is not in the party
>>563676816
I cant really chose so I always bring them all with me
each one has their purpose and despite some having a lotta mroe content, they're all super enjoyable and the banter is top notch, I'm a sucker for that
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>>563683081
Except that is completely irrelevant to the question at hand. Am I being baited--
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Okay, I am being baited. God I hate 4chan sometimes, people cannot stop themselves from acting like niggers.
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Should I let my new beau Astarion slurp down worms if I'm not planning to consume any? He was always pushing to abuse the tadpole powers and I feel like it would be in-character for him to abuse their base powers but not take the Astral Tadpole because he wouldn't dare mess with his looks.
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Yes, but never let him forget that others in the party are doing just as well, if not better, without having resorted to taking more worms. Whenever he begs for another one, just one more, don't say anything - just smile and indulge his request with a knowing look of amused pity. And occasionally, when he's within earshot, offhandedly remark how great it feels to still be you, good old you, non-squid you.
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Getting the "god-emperor" ending while romancing Minthara was pure kino. I love her so much. The contrast between what we are doing and the sweetness of the kiss and her smile. My faithful royal consort who will stand proudly alongside me as I conquer entire worlds. Absolutely exquisite.
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on demand invisibility is a meme
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>in a hurry to be purified
>no time for pleasure killing
she even comments on the fact that zorru being alive meant the gith patrol was busy
she has the same thought process
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>nobody plays giths
>laezel is still the 3rd most popular companion
at the end of the day swen knows what's up and he always loved his freaky races, you get a dwarf companion and you get a lizard companion and you get a birdfolk companion in space, and you get an undead companion, EVERYBODY GETS EXOTIC COMPANINONS
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>wow a Gith is a popular companion in a game where Gith are the most dominant and story rich antagonists
that's a dumb thing to say when giths are factually unpopular AND wyll & halsin represent very popular races and are still the least popular companions, it's almost as if a companion's race isn't enough to determine whether they'll be liked by the fans or not...
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The abundance of gith makes having a gith in your party extremely beneficial thanks to the extra dialogue making for a richer experience. Add into that the fact that Lae'zel is your first party member in an extremely capable class that can slot into any party, and it's easy to see that she's popular in spite of her being githyanki, not because of it. Race obviously isn't the only factor, but it is still a major one. The fact that she's third place of the 3 basic female companions should tell you that she's fighting against being a gith for her popularity, she could easily have been more popular if she had more mass appeal.
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>Helia: Let's try a little trust ay? People might just surprise you.
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After three playthroughs I decided to try some mods and installed the WASD and free camera movement mods. It's insane how much better the game is with just these two changes. I'm having fun just walking around well-known areas and seeing them from a fresh new perspective. Exploration is smooth and immersive now instead of frustrating like it often would be before. If you're playing without these mods you are a fool.
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Awesome "tangentially related" shitposts! Let's once again complain about how human and elven the BG3 companions are! This is a novel topic that hasn't been beaten to death over the past few months! How about something new for a change? I think the non-character is poorly written, bland, and spineless. His writer should have done a better job of making him more compelling.
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>Let's once again complain about how human and elven the BG3 companions are
Good idea! It's so fuckin vanilla, it's painful. I'm not asking for a spider-cat, but more flavor would be nice heh. So much for diversity
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But does anyone actually like the parasite's transparent samefagging over several hours, or do they merely treat it like background noise? Here it is, posting random pictures of halflings. It's "tangentially related" because Helia, the companion that never was, would have been a halfling.
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You never needed an invitation to post ugliness. But if the measure of a companion is only race-based, what's stopping you from modding BG3 to be the perfect game? Turn Astarion into a tiefling, Shadowheart into a gnome, and Jaheira into a tabaxi. There's your precious "diversity."
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One of the vanilla choices for player race is only “tangentially related” to the game because I declare it to be so. Now watch as I ramble on in a long, stupid tangent about some thread personality nobody except me recognizes, tangentially related to my dislike of “ugliness.” Be patient. I have autism.
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Guess Thrinn has some positives too, she has unflinching devotion to Nere, unlike her scheming clan elder. Nere didn't get that from any drow woman for sure.
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>>563738320
ew no, gross gross gross if there's one change from wotc that was welcome, it's retconning hairy feet
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Dringo X Wulbren
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Favorite builds /bgg/ ?
For me it's:
>8 open hand monk / 4 thief rogue
4 attacks per round, different elements, and really good gear all over the place. Can be run without potions and tavern brawler
>6 vengeance paladin / 6 draconic sorcerer
Needs long rests often, but very big damage
>12 battlemaster
Sometimes I have a couple hirelings set up as BM when I want to play without shart and others bitching in my ears
>12 fiend warlock
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>>563739405
In just about any game it's annoying but for an RPG to just omit information about equipment, effects, details about what things rely on which stats, it's all just bizarre.
If the game had just released, yeah sure I could understand it. The game has been out for almost 3 years now and the developer not only left shit in this messy state but up and moved on to their next game.
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Yeah well it's kinda her quest to find her boots
>>563738486
Name in ACt 3 are just whack like that
looking at you, Sauceman CHorizo
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No one cares that you play a midget, a dragonfreak, or a "half"-orc. A preference for ugliness is certainly your prerogative. But using the pretext of a cut character (Helia) to spam pictures of halflings is, objectively, several degrees removed from the game itself. It becomes, by definition, "tangentially related." Should we start posting pictures of pregnant drow because Minthara's pregnancy subplot was cut? Would that be something you would dishonestly defend? That's rhetorical.
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>my Wulbren
Do you think Barcus is fully gay or bi like everyone else
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>>563741271
It think he is hard gay. Maybe deep gnomes have same sex cohabitation by default and the burrow warden assigns reproduction duties to certain gnomes as a civic duty periodically to maintain stable population levels.
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like what specifically? why don't you submit bug reports to larian? if you did why didn't you post receipts
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bro,,, gay eugenics
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9/3 is my preferred split for oh monk. They're good early game, but I do think they fall off mid game. No gear conflicts is nice but they really need str elixir to keep up.
10 sword bard / 2 fighter is great. The wiz dip is a huge meme.
6/6 sorcadin is okay but I consistently think about just running 11/1 EK instead, mostly because the sbard is already doing a lot.
I hate warlock past 2. EB is so trash outside of repelling. Just play sorc and rest nigga you got 5000 camp supplies
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>turned the wine into water because she's pregnant
KEK
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>just like shart the far his convos are always me me me
its just so tiring
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https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/2342
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/2435
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/21781
I use these, toggle the loot to "loot the room" and then turn it off.
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It's been pretty good. It'll sell off anything that's junk or that I've put into the orange bag to call junk, auto sort into the containers that I carry with me, and put everything else into a weightless bag if it didn't sort. It will fully ignore story items as well as rare gear, but mark containers that still have something good. It drastically reduced my looting time. Those plus a movement speed mod cut hours off.
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hint:cheese
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What do you consider cheese? How did you get reamed by Sarevok?
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>What do you consider cheese
Barrelmancy/Camp casters
>How did you get reamed by Sarevok
Party was low HP but so was he and my BiS Death cleric/wizard/sorc whiffed twice on upcast inflict wounds and was downed by the reaction and repeat with my Throwzerker and then Sarevok killed Minty and Laezel with crits. I think he had 70 hp. Raphael was a literal cakewalk compared to this.
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The way I min-max the dialogue skill checks on my Sword Bard:
Guild Artisan for Persuasion & Insight
I pick Investigation, Intimidation and Arcana
Stealth from Wood Half Elf (technically useless)
Multiclassed Rogue: Perception
Expertise: Investigation, Insight, Persuasion and Arcana
Jack of All Trades, Guidance (from necklace or Cleric), Enhance Ability (from Bard or companion).The Druid idol can be stolen after the ritual is stopped for a permanent proficiency in Nature but it's not an important skill check. Animal handling is negated by speak with animals.
Performance and Deception aren't very important but also 16 CHA helps with them for the few times they're needed, Bard even gets to auto succeed some Performance checks.
Medicine and Survival (prioritised on companions) are very rare dialogue checks. Perception is mostly an overworld skill check so prioritised on companions but it's semi-important for dialogue.
History & Religion are semi-important for dialogue but not prioritised, good for companions as overworld checks.
Sleight of Hand is best on companions because it's mainly for traps/locks. Acrobatics and Athletics are mostly useless for combat and have some uses in dialogue.
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fighter(3 attacks, action surge, can be ranged, DEX or STR, tons of broken weapons are viable, tavern brawler fighter eldrich knight is underrated, all the subclasses got strong synergies aside of champion)
barbarian(throw builds are broken, berserker has 3 attacks, literally unkillable if you play well)
monk(tavern brawler is stupid)
paladin(divine smites are strong but the class doesn't scale well lategame if you don't multiclass and its spells are mostly mid)
ranger(most subclass features are ass, beastmaster is strong but takes a long time to become busted)
rogue(can't scale for shit, most of its damage will be through sharpshooter damage or piercing damage thanks to the bhaal armor that doubles your piercing damage)
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If that's the threshold for cheese then you should have easily-
>got RNG fucked
Oh, never mind. Sometimes the dice just conspire against you. This is why I prefer spells with saving throws, it's usually guaranteed damage. (you will never catch me using Disintegrate unless it comes from a spell scroll)
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>got RNG fucked
I easily could have fled with dimension doors prior so I'm not sure I would blame the entire wipe on rng but I figured the chances of whiffing on 70 points of damage with a hasted death cleric dual wielding markoheshkir/staff of cherished necromancy with weave gear and a throwzerker under 1/2 HP with helm of guts was pretty low but I was wrong! Hasted Sarevok crits are disgusting.
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it scales well throughout the game and act 3 got tons of cool gear for throw builds + it's the most vertical of the 3 acts which allows the fighter/barbarian to get fall damage on top of their weapon damage with good positioning
nah nah nah throw builds are broken even in honor mode
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>>563771304
existence of the lightning jabber in act 2 gave them something to cling to until act 3
dunno why he says throwing barb is broken but its far from back prior to act 3
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>want to start a new run
>"this time I'll try something new!"
>end playing a CHA based class as always
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>>563772036
Lightning jabber is great if you're EK or in tactician. But if you're competing against stuff like resonance stone shadow blade or bhaalist shar spear, or black hole+combustion oil, black hole+many target arrows, idk man. throwing just isn't impressive in act 3 at all.
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I'm not saying it's bad at all in act 1, for reference. That's why i specified level 5. But by level 6-8 other builds start coming online and substantially close that gap.
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Rogue 3(or 4 sometimes) is great. It's the remaining 9 that suck.
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>>563772940
not fair to count bhaalist armor for shar spear but not include it for throwing nyrulna
if you want to use a throwing barb you would make sure to have someone else in range to put piercing vuln on enemies
its not as impressive as something like paralyze enemy then nuke everyone with auto crit many targets arrow but i dont think throwing falls off that hard if you put the work into it with riders like drake glaive buff strange conduit ring +2 radiant damage bhaalist armor etc
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>>563772436
Wait until fight an enemy that has no floor beneath it like Myrkul or the brain.
Solid chance that Returning Pike (or any throwable that returns) that the game will refuse to return it or outright vanish.
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>Shaddy laying back, exhausted from Halsin's pounding
>Daddy Halsin sitting back with his pipe, supervising your clean-up
>"mmmnfurfnfmmm nurmomnurghh good mmm arrmgfrnmm mmm goodberry good"
>"Slow down, Tav! You'll make yourself sick!
>"There will be plenty more Goodberry Pie for you later :)"
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>>563774029
this is true but some of the buffs can be shared across multiple weapons though that is more of a glitch/exploit than an intended function since it tricks the game to not wipe until long rest buffs by placing the item in a different region from the one you long rested in but its still an option for nyrulna users
it depends on the party comp though its possible for those items to still go to the nyrulna user
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>free damage for my gimmick char that runs off HP% effects like extra bonus action, loviatars love etc
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>the frogcel
>the namefag
>the pigschizo
the dead three plaguing /bgg/
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I posted a cute bg3 fanart here's another
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>>563775237
>2 of them willingly allow themselves to be filtered so you only have to deal with them if you really want to
>frogpostee will force you to see his endless parade of frog images whether you want to or not
One of these things is worse than the others.
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Oh and the +2 to attack rolls from Archery
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>>563775690
>frogpostee will force you to see his endless parade of frog images whether you want to or not
>he doesn't know how to filter images
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>>563776258
>you should filter every single image as they appear in order to remove the spam
No matter how many I filter, more will appear.
>>563776180
What, killoooohhhh. Yeah, I agree.
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*smooch*
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FUAAAARK
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>No matter how many I filter, more will appear.
Every accusation is a confession with your kind. Does anyone ask to see random AI-generated pictures of halflings? No, but the parasite will post some (>>563728676)
regardless. Does anyone ask to see random tweets? No, but the parasite will post some (>>563761101) regardless. Why do you never complain about that unfilterable shitposting? Yeah, I don't think the Lae'zel poster is the problem here.
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GO NOW
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GO NOW
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GO NOW
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GO NOW
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>>563776162
Okay but remove 4 levels of Bard and pick up 4 levels of Rogue.
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The extra spells are obviously not worth it over Archery + Action Surge.
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>>563778806
Idk man. Losing 4th and 5th level spell slots kinda makes the mystic scoundrel thing not great. Imo sword bard 6 is great, just it needs to multiclass into casters. Otherwise a paladin or EK is likely just better. EK 11 is still 4 attacks per round with 7 on action surge.
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>babbies gate 3 children trying to talk about """"""""builds""""""""
lol
lmao