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Season 7 - Kumo no Ito
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>Upcoming Events
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Chapter 9.5 - Twining Threads
>Current Events
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Chapter 7.5 - LCB Regular Check-up BokGakS
>Upcoming Extractions
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[000] The Ring Fauvist Docent Rodion
[000] The Ring Fauvist Student Meursault [ Event Reward ]
>Current Extractions
2026.04.02 — 2026.04.16
[000] The House of Spiders: The Ring Nursefather Hong Lu
[000] The House of Spiders: The Ring Apprentice Faust
2026.03.19 — 2026.04.16
[000] LCE E.G.O:: AEED Gregor
[HE] Ardor Blossom Star Faust
2026.04.02 — 2026.04.16
Target Extraction: [ Yi Sang ]
FAQs
! This game is directly tied to the setting of Project Moon's previous games, Lobotomy Corporation and Library of Ruina, and is set after both. Expect spoilers for those games in this thread.
! The tutorial is important.
>Download links
AppStore: https://apps.apple.com/app/limbus-company/id6444112366
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ProjectMoon.LimbusCo mpany
Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1973530/Limbus_Company/
>Other links
Official twitter: https://twitter.com/limbuscompany_b
Official youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectMoonOfficial
Official site: https://limbuscompany.global
>Required reading
https://mega.nz/folder/xosDkZ5Z#Wt4JpUt5Bb2XG77pxuuXpw
>For all your EGO and Sinner info needs
https://limbus.kusoge.xyz/
https://gll-fun.com/en/
>Useful resources and a general guide
https://rentry.org/lcg_resources
https://rentry.org/lcbguide
https://rentry.org/LCB_optimal_grind_guide
https://lcb-days-since-last-id.carrd.co/
https://lcb-days-since-last-ego.carrd.co/
>Countdown
https://lcbcountdown.carrd.co/
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Sinclair!
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>>563492657
Kira Love!
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>Five minutes until kits
Show me your war face!!!
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Post your main menu quote
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>>563493013
Join the hunt and win a free ps2.
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It's usually like 30 mins ago is it not
Probably delaying it by an hour because....??????????????????????
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>fauvists DOGS attempt to imitate the purity that is the raw flesh of humanity
Mongrel pups is all you are
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WHERE ARE THEY????????
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Yuria sex
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HE is here again
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Stupid Fausts ITT see a poster use one word and instantly assume they're the same guy every single time
Actually incredible
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>>563493864
Stupid horny limbab
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>>563493949
NTA but you always say this but have you considered that shards are not that farmable!? You only get 3 per MD!!! You all brainwashed me into thinking it was a smart decision to never roll but the actual best way to do it is by rolling only 10-20 per banner while making sure you have more than 20k lunacy saved up all the time.
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I feel like these never worked properly.
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How about we agree that all kind of faggotry is bad and move on? Stop shitting up the thread.
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>esltards think tranny is an esoteric term only the chuddiest of chuds use
>poor grasp of english means they can't rely on his specific typing pattern so they accuse you of being him over a single word
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>>563494315
I love Ishumaelu
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Total Faggot Death.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaa
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Kits...?
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As always, it's up to me to fix the thread.
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>>563494595
Ah so it's like this guy I understand now
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>Still no kits
on an unrelated note, I found some more Alyssa pieces. Enjoy
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>>563494348
It is too late. "You" are already "Me". Now and forever, in every thread to come.
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https://x.com/limbuscompany_b/status/2043630894922301865
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sorry for phone posting I am currently jerking off
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RODYA PLEASE GIVE ME THE TOUCH HARDIE
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Why are they so relucent to unbrick bloody mist?
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>Needs a Rougher Touch for this Part
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>>563494862
This looks pretty good. With on hit Bleed and Sinking Count she's at the very least count neutral when she puts on the furry mask and all those hits are inflicting extra potency.
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>>563494862
you absolute retards, post BOTH pages instead of farming replies to your low effort post.
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>bleed + sinking
While this means that they are kinda meh for the Spider Ringas, it's a strict positive for future of the meta when it comes to teambuilding
Rodya does have the quintessential EGO for both Sinking and EGO
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>take more damage from Ring identities
>take even more damage if the target is school of fauvism
wut
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>>563494941
Envy!
Envy on Rodya!
Hooray!!!
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>>563495025
I am still jerking off
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>>563495126
Keep going.
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@Angela, summarize it for me
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>>563495025
I didn't see the second page
Also fuck you, lazy nigger. You could've done it yourself.
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>>563492657
For next OP.
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>>563495214
Only special people get to have that many unique effects for their IDs.
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At last, I can slumber peacefully knowing the ring team is going to be kino.
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What's a Docent?
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lol what is this support passive
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>>563495461
>Felt called out enough to continue replying instead of just ignoring the post
>Goes on about muh projection
Kek
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Rodya looks good, meursault is a supportslut.
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Realistically Meastro is the highest one can go in art isn’t it? From what I know, The Ring isn’t formatted like a traditional gang, they are like an university, with different movements, each having their own leader which is the Maestro that established and maintaining said school
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Anons fighting over nothingburger again...
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Albina doesn't count, doesn't she?
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>>563495398
Faust would unironically pose this question to faustcord
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will lobotomized faust count as a ring student for the purposes of triggering rodya's stuff?
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>>563495670
Don't be greedy, you literally just got a burn ID.
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>>563495797
The first one is literally perfect why would someone ruin it like that.
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So to my understanding the Ring's gimmick, aside from bleed, is "negative status effects" and "healing SP on self", with each school doing it in different ways
Pointilism - randomly apply different coloured status effects (burn, tremor, sinking, rupture, bleed). Coin reuse % based on amount of negative effects.
Corporism - apply different "basic" status effects such as bind whilst applying their positive variant on self, unique charge is generated by dealing damage and killing and not simply using skills
Fauvism - focused on outright HP and SP damage through bleed and sinking, with their special status effects further amplifying their HP and SP damage
Did I get that right?
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meant for >>563495573
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>>563495865
>inflict Bum
Why are ringniggers so zesty?
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critique has to have at least 3 reuse max if it's gonna be any good for anything except making meursault deal like 10% extra damage
overall nowhere near as fancy as the house of spiders ringfolk but rodya seems like a good team supporter for the students if you want to field all of them for some reason
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Is this... blackflame for bleed/sinking? a way to push the damage past 99?
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no fucking way she critiques Callisto. I think it only applies to Meur and the two pointillists
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The skill's afterimage's color is its sin affinity, see pic related for Rodya's S1 which was shown to be Sloth
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Meursault had Gloom Wrath Lust and Rodya had Sloth Gloom Lust
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I wonder how many negative statuses she'll need for it
She already applies like, 6 different debuffs on her own
>Bleed
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So I assume 6 debuffs minimum, which does sound like a lot, but given the other Ring members and gifts in Mirror Dungeons, that's going to be very easy to achieve
Hell, you could throw in Night Awl Gregor for easy access to some permanent debuffs in the form of tremor, deep wound, and some bind
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... I mean, she's under the tutelage of a Maestro. And like >>563495913 says, it might just take into account Ring IDs as a whole.
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why are we pretending that sin affinities suddenly matter all of a sudden? Unless you're a middlekek of course
>>563495765
Project Groom is LGBTQ+ franchise.
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>>563495936
Ring's gimmick is that the director is creatively bankrupted so they play it safe by making a finger that can do whatever the fuck they want as long as they say "art for this feel" and thats probably the most garbage shit PM has wrote so far
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>>563496037
ESL underage nigger. It's "He said like*". You're getting written down.
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>Doomfags are getting too uppity again
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So, the 5 ring IDs+ the two KK team has:
6 wrath (S1 of Meur and Heath)
8 lust (all S3s minus Yi Sang who has lust S2, also all defense skills are lust)
1 (ONE (UNO)) sloth (Yi Sang S3)
3 gluttony (Faust S1)
6 gloom (Rodya S1 and Faust S1)
9 pride (Meur S2, Hong S1, Heath and Ish S2)
9 envy (Rodya S2, Hong S2, Faust S2 and Ish S1)
Completely ignoring the need for Sanguine Desire (which should be good, lots of lust on demand, envy and pride and a bit of wrath) the team is starving for gluttony and specially sloth
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>>563496279
What evil side? Cunnybros? I stand against trannies and the pedophiles your ilk attracts.
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Good night/day anons.
>Ring Student Identities
>Anons think it's supposed to apply to Hongllisto
Only by accident anons. Which wouldn't surprise me.Presumably if we get the Maestro on the rerun it will be for Docents and Students.
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Yes. Just like (you)
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What about cunny (adult)?
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>t. raped bleedtrannies posing as other statuses while being hyped about literal furfag IDs and a trannyfujosault ID
disgusting cunts
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>>563496181
Which part of my post is wrong? All wings, associations, and office follows a system of their own. Fixers are graded. Thumb, index and middle has their own own unique rules and structure. And then you got this garbage Ring who can do whatever they want as long as they call it art. Today PM decides there's a new school of the art of chopping people's head off so now you got a chapter of Ring lunatics beheading everyone on the streets. Tomorrow PM say there's a new school of Art of anal probing so now you got a bunch of lunatics fisting people arses. This is pure shit writing.
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>makes human fights min roll every time
>is rupture with easier to maintain count otherwise
become blue, anons.
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probably to encourage interdisciplinary interactions such as counsel and/or critique, hongllisto mentions a fellow maestro asking for tips on gallery management for example
also you know, because they're a crime syndicate so having interconnected spatial space bullshit helps
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Yeah pretty much. And it means a lot of blunt gifts stop being fusion/sale fodder. Also, of the easy to get tier 2 damage type powerspike gifts (Resolution, Torn Bandolier, Temporal Bridle) blunt has by far the worst.
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Don't tell the burnfag his entire status is having to rely on Sissy Lu using 2 cocks (literally) and a "meurfujotrannysault" ID (capo) alongside Magic Bullets bricked ass ID in order to do more than 99 damage per turn kek
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Its a cheap wildcard plot blackhole for PM to do whatever the fuck they want hence why its shit.
Just because you say "game for this feel" doesnt mean your garbage off topic trash posting isn't trash posting. The same thing goes for the ring. Doing random bullshit while calling it "art for this feel" does not make it an art.
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>>563496841
Doesn't affect my point
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And why is it that? Surely it wouldn't be because you retards refused to migrate to said thread.
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It's the weird plot blackhole which is why we haven't yet gotten anything weird from the plot blackhole to happen, awesome, come pouring blood out of your gash when something like that actually happens you fucking invalid
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Somehow every school of "art" involves human mutilation, and somehow all these humble art student with a canvas brush can fight like a grade 1 fixer, but that's just "art people" being "art people" no?
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I love mondays
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Mon amour
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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/49159598829889578 9?l=english
They adjusted some E.G.O gifts. WG and Manor are just the biggest ones
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What the fuck do you think Damien means by "draw me a sheep"? Little Prince reference aside
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>>563497289
please tell your amour to apply blue pigments (big fan of him applying a fuckload red though)
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he just likes bovines
they're cool
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Goyssypium is not real, there is no scenario in which recovering enemies from stagger to gain some effect over simply hitting it for fatal and not giving a shit about clashes for one turn is a good idea
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The fauvists do bring up a question. So we know livestock exists, canto 4 showed us chickens and cows being farmed, and analogies feature animals are made often, but do wild animals exist anywhere naturally in the City? Like is there a forested area with wolves or whatever in them?
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>>563497580
*bleeds ur anus*
what nyow?
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why should i hate him? just because he's french?
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what now?
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Don't think bloodfiends will see that much use (at least in 'the' meta team. They are still good). Right now the best team will most likely be the 2 new ring IDs, Ring Faust and Hong, Ring Yi Sang, Kurakumo Heath and Kurakumo Ish. You can shard all of them too. The only thing is that you're going to need Rodya Sanguine Desire EGO. It helps a fuckton to upkeep bleed count against a lot of enemies and it's a walpipi EGO
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nyes
then you wait another week to shard rodya
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>>563497647
My initial thought was that Surrealists would appear normal at first but would burst open to reveal their true artistic form. They would also be experimenting with distortion.
Fantastic Artists, or they'd probably be called Fantisists would be a group that want to bring the wild untamed "beauty" of the outskirts into the City.
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>Hong Lu at max power deals more damage than Yi Sang
I've asked this before and I need to emphasize, how the fuck is Ryoshu supposed to top 1.2k damage at neutral resistance (yes, neutral. On Lust and Pierce fatal, this damage reaches 4x)
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>>563498012
incredibly kino ideas, i did initially toy with a similar angle with surrealists (only with abnos) but i failed to think of an angle that would work without breaking the lore or getting the surrealists killed in five minutes so i gave up, although them messing with distortion is a cool idea, maybe a movement born from the Ring's collaboration with Hermann's experiments?
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>>563498052
I hope you enjoy your ALL HOUSE OF SPIDERS IDENTITIES ARE DEAD conditional that you will never ever ever reach.
But real talk it should just build Entangled Life for her EGO to use which will give her like +400% damage against single targets at max conditions.
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>>563497830
>Why should I hate him?
Because he didn't cry at his mother's funeral. And because he drank coffee when offered it.
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After I get what I'm owed
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You dont know shit about me retard.fuck OFF.NOW
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You dont know shit either shutvthe fuck up just shut the fuck up
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>>563498512
Their materials seem to be animals and themselves, rather than other people. Still a Syndicate, and they seem to enjoy putting their "work" into action, so not safe by any means though. The damage inflicted by claws/teeth is probably an extension of their "art"
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>>563498423
No. Get cucked.
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>>563498572
I love (you) too Anon
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Ahem
ALL HAUL ARKNIGHTS AØL HALL ARKNIGTRS ALL HAIL ARINIGHTS AND ITS JROTHER GIRLS FORNTLE ALL HALL ENDFIØED ALL HAIL GITLS FORBTLINE 2 EXILIM AND PROJEVT NEURAL CLOUD
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So, since Distortions have been retconned to progress into Abnormalities after a while, she's gone, isn't she? Probably tuned into some random abno
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>>563498763
why not...
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>retconned
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>>563498651
I think more boys should look like Yan
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>>563482812
Very impressive, very nice.
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Will use him regardless
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>>563498754
100000000% being used as the centrepiece to some kind of fucked up machine or operation by the Index. This was like the first thing we theorised after seeing Sora's EGO. That Sora is being used as some kind of conduit or resource extractor for the Index.
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>>563498858
I agree!
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>>563498864
>CAAAAAAATHY OPEN THE DOOR NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWW
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>>563498921
Maybe some would use the Monoliths, while others find that artistically bankrupt, prefering to break down people on an emotion level till they crumble and turn into a distortion or less fortunately a peccetula.
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>surrealist maestros use people as ingredients
>not for their bodyparts, but for their psyche
>they will spend days if not weeks looking for the right person and then carefully break them so they'll distort in the right way, at the right time
>this doubles as the piece's grand unveiling, the damage done to the distortion's surroundings is also considered part of the artwork
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>>563499221
Here's a Cool Picture anon
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>>563499327
we had the guy with the black souls OP malding about people not using his bait thread so it's probably him again
this is surprisingly similar to what happened with arknight's so i'm starting to wonder if it's samir again or just a coincidence
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>wake up
>Rodya's has fucking GLOOM in her kit as if that's needed for bleed
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>>563500094
it's for fueling fluid sac and rime shank
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Why can't Meursault paint blue? Is he retarded?
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She seems good, tho we're in a world where god tier IDs get released too
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>>563496726
>Deal half damage if the enemy is resistant to Gloom
>Deal 1/4 damage if the enemy is also resistant to your physical damage type
>Unusable against negative coin enemies
Hmmmmm nyo
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>>563501000
Your gloom damage is halved 1/2
Your physical damage is halved 1/2
You're doing 1/4 damage
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Smartest sinking hater
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>>563501592
Excuse you, the EnvyFAMILY is smart. We make sure to eat a different flavor of cup ramen every day to vary our diet and make our brains grow strong and purple
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>>563501820
For me, KILLING the enemy is always more important.
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>butterflies
Butterflies damage is a pittance. And that's why nobody uses it anymore. Get with the times
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I think Burn's problem is that every other status stacks potency too easily. Due to the nature of Burb you only need to apply 1 count per turn, so you can focus on gettinghigh potency instead. In a balanced world, the other statuses would need to focus primarily on count, leavibg potency low and you'd only stack it as a "bonus" after getting enough count. But MD gifts make it so you always get free count (except bleed for some reason) making Burn just gimped
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>>563501451
>Enemy has minus coins
>Your 12 sinking ID are now fucking WORTHLESS
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https://x.com/breaking911/status/2042627588938473632?s=46
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>>563502084
Anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKA1F6xSgs
Get with the times oldman. Kodya is OUT of the sinking team too
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Reminder for next baker.
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>>563502385
If she came out today she would be the same just with better modifiers.
You should be talking about how Ishab and ErlHeath would NEED to be paired with their seasonal teams or lose half their kit, actually.
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The actual problem with burn is that it procs once per turn, unlike Bleed which can be triggered lots with a proper setup and Rupture/Sinking/Tremor which pops when you hit them.
Even with Blue flame, you are getting like 200ish damage per turn, when you can explode your enemies for 4k+ Sinking/Rupture damage and multi coins enemies bleed themselves to death
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>>563502514
Honestly, if WildHunt Heasu came out today, he would be bleed sinking like Erlking is. That would be cool I think.
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Still mad we never got Gasharpoon. At least we might see it when Ahab comes back, Farmwatch is gone forever since Dongrang is gone.
The only way I could see farmwatch naturally introduced would be by having the boss rush event include it as event ID
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>>563502751
Ringsang is simply never going out of relevance. Turns out, enabling your teammates to do their max damagr output is far better than muh big numbers
Of course he still has his 32 rolling S2 but I digress
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It’s a slippery slope, I told everyone this again and again, KJH balanced himself into a corner. No status get to do something unique anymore because the moment they do, KJH eventually will have to give it to other status as well, and we are back to 0
Burn getting to stack above 99 will make people ask “Why can’t other status do that too” and well, he will give in
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>>563502907
so soly, u want my autoglaph?
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>>563503030
Blackflame already does that and I don't see peoplecrying about it. I've also never seenpeople crying for "bleed butterfly" or "rupture spicebush" (andXichunmael orLord Lu would have been the perfect IDs for that
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>>563503091
>Tranny lament kvetching
Imagine being a walp ID as outdated as MB Outis
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He literally did several times since that stream kekk
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How do manager don fans cope with her being pushed out of her main status team faster than wild hunt?
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>>563503281
Congrats, figure that out yourself? Don, Hong, and Ryoshu are. I wouldn't have minded if it was just two but three in a row is pissing me off. Especially when the nursefathers have no fucking synergy at all.
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If Ryoshu's capstone wont increase the burn count to 999 or make it so allies proc it with every coin like rupture or have some other burn mechanic, im unironically quitting the game
Watch her be bleed and for dogrector to spit in the face of both don and burn fans
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>>563503676
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can i have some lobotomy corporation memes?
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>>563503597
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This
The livestream literally spelled it out, too
I did not see any burn mechanics being mentioned, did (you)?
Burn is a dead status and is obviously not supported anymore
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>KJH balanced himself into a corner
Mechanically maybe but I feel like ever since Maust the gloves are off. Maust, Riensang and Callistolu are absolutely insane. The last one can easily deal 50% of the whole team's damage in MDE which is just insane.
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>>563504389
unironically going to be released either before the sweepers rerun or on the second week of it with the ricardo ID
trust the plAn
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>Lord lu
You can run him without he heishous btw. Most teams use only him and Maost. And that's because Maost is Maost.
>Arayashu
She isn't even out yet and you're already whining. Retard.
She could be busted on her own.
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>B-BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER OUTSIDE OF MD
>when MD is the only actual gamemode that exists and storymode content is winrate sloppa tier (see every single fight in Canto 9)
what did limbabs unironically mean by this
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>>563504707
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>>563504828
MD is retarded bullshit that is never a challenge since you can pick every ++ grace, get the card and urn from EGO search and buy every EGO gift ever
Ishtard
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WHAT? ANGELA, YOU'RE GOING TO KILL ME AND MY UNBORN CHILD, LEADING MY HUSBAND DOWN A SPIRAL OF DEPRESSION AND REVENGE ONLY TO GIVE UP RIGHT AT THE END AND SAVE THE ONE WHO KILLED ME??? NOT ONLY THAT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEDUCE HIM AND MAKE HIM YOURS? HE'S EVENTUALLY GOING TO MOVE PAST AND FORGET ALL ABOUT ME AND HIS CHILD??? WELL WHAT CAN I SAY BUT YABBA DABBA DOO!!!
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>Ezra is Charge/Tremor
>Vespa is Tremor/Hemorrhage with a dash of Poise
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Imagine feeding Ishmael fatter and fatter, spiking her food and drink with gainer shake as she uselessly struggles to lose weight
Imagine digging into her fupa to find her buried pussy
Imagine her becoming too fat to do anything so you can just touch her gigantic tits any way you like and she cant do anything back
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>>563503597
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Average shonen main cast
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>>563505213
Roland, don't look!
https://litter.catbox.moe/w2jp1g.png
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*BRAAAAAAAPPPPP*
Ugh, sorry... Heathcliff has been feeding me bacon grease whenever he fucks me, It's been making me so gassy Dante...
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>doesn't know what moving goalposts mean
Wow
All of your problems could be solved if you just used your creativity to make teams. Lord Lu is not useless without Heishous.
Instead, you want to start arguments on 4chan and whine about KJH fucking you in the ass. What a loser.
Slurp harder btw
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>Too fat
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>>563505898
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>Lord Lu is not useless without Heishous.
He is. Again, nobody runs him alone because he sucks without the rest of his team. And your response to that wasnt an example.of ehat he can do alone, it was
>WAAAAH STOP METAGAMING!!!!
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Basically average shonen trio have 2 guy and 1 girl, and among them
>One is the super serious straight-laced character
>One is the quirky weirdo who is obsessed with something trivial, exist to be funny
>One “normal person” who exist to constantly point out how weird the other 2 are
They fit the bill to a T
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right here >>563504765
>You can run him without he heishous btw.
>Most teams use only him and Maost.
You tried to defend lord lu and immediately contradicted yourself by saying everyone runs him with his no:1 lackey. You've been damage controlling since.
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