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Big Giovanna Edition
GGST 2.0 and Jam starter guide
https://youtu.be/mLGruVR6VkM [Embed]
https://youtu.be/MIJwA7Pu9Ns [Embed]
>UPCOMING
2.0 bracket set for april 18th 5pm est
global tournament
double elimination ft3
register HERE
https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/VW257aRG8F#/signup/f28yvue9lf
GGST 2.0 and Jam are live!
Blazing battle pass: May
Robo=Ky: Summer
>RESOURCES
Main wiki with frame data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.com
Fighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/
Deflect Shield OS tech: https://youtu.be/zmQeJLe_w9U [Embed]
>Replay Uploaders
https://replaytheater.app/?game=xrd
https://replaytheater.app/?game=acpr
https://replaytheater.app/?game=strive
>Xrd/+R/#R/ML Resources
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/
https://github.com/YouKnow232/ggxxacpr_overlay/releases
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGXRD-R2/Resources
https://github.com/WistfulHopes/ggml_public/releases
>Current GGST Patch 2.0 (April 9th)
https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2851/
>Guilty Gear Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/
>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive mods
Potato Mod Lite: https://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/
Potato Low Spec: https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/
Frame Data Display/Replay Takeover 1.49+: https://github.com/WistfulHopes/UE4SSMods/releases/tag/replay-0.2.4
State region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!
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Marking my territory.
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Giovanna's MASSIVE ass!
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You can't do that...!
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can someone teach me how to play may optimally? i know my combos but cant seem to really hit my opponents with the close range starters and could really do simple 2-3 combo hit confirms.
i am also kind of shit at neutral, i just block until my opponent do something stupid(if they are even able to) and counterplay, rinse and repeat
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Yeah, I literally just searched for "giovanna_(guilty_gear)" and "ass" on Danbooru and I found this. I thought it was made recently based on the trend but it's over a year old? kek
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Imagine the softness...
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I'm so retarded I feel bad when my opponents lose to me. I forget to use my meter in over half my matches
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bwos... would you want a highlight reel for the last tournament?
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>>563583419
Some Japanese (?) chick took a picture of her FAT ass doing that pose, making it look like a very big heart and it caught on, both in the sense that other girls are doing it and artists are drawing it.
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So here are the last remaining playable characters that aren't in GGST yet. I'll include even dead characters from previous games just to be complete. Robo-Ky was announced so he's not included.
GG
>Kliff
>Justice
GGX+
>Zappa
>Order-Sol
Xrd
>Kum
>Raven
>Answer
I really think there will be 1 new character this season and then Zappa will be playable. Kliff, Justice, and Order Sol will not be playable.
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Something about Order Sol here has me cracking up
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I cant wait for Kliff
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Surely this will be her season
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I gotta wonder how they'd even do Zappa. He's the best fighting game character ever made and pretty much the embodiment of what makes +R so good, but completely the opposite of strive's philosophy. Be cool if they give him his XX design back.
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New(ish) player here, are the difficulty ratings for each character presented in the game accurate? I want a low execution character that doesn't require many complicated inputs.
It's not that I can't pull them off, it's more like I'm an old man with old man hands and I need to take it easy on them, not put too much strain on them per session.
I'm considering May and Ramlethal
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mostly accurate
ram is low execution. if you're comfortable with charge inputs then may is a good contender, though you want to be comfortable slamming out charge moves quickly and often
as a button zoner, axl is pretty low execution. most of your gameplay is pressing normals and what differentiates a good axl from bad is almost entirely if they make good reads on the opponents movement
consider getting a hitbox. they're supposed to be good for minimizing hand strain. my gf with arthritis uses a fightstick and she says its much easier on her wrists than a pad
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>>563585643
>axl
Oh yeah... I hadn't thought about him but he's cool and it makes sense that he manages mostly with normals, I'll try him out for a bit too.
>consider getting a hitbox. they're supposed to be good for minimizing hand strain
Are they really? I sort of assumed that was a meme but I have never actually tried them...
Thanks for the input Anon
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I don't anticipate I'll be anywhere near high level play territory kek but I'll keep that in mind.
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I’m in my 30s and leverless definitely relieved a lot of aches and pains I’d get from fightan on pad and stick. Just make sure you’re sitting ergonomically. When I first started I was at a low table sitting on the floor and the way I was arching my wrists was causing pain. Should be at a desk or at least have it it in your lap
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Gio-bro here and I'm here to appreciate another Gio OP
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I really did not notice that GGST has the most playable characters in the GG franchise. With 2.0 this also means they really want GGST more a few more years. I really wonder how they'll move with this. After this year it's going to be full of new characters coming in.
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Are there any eldergod cube wizards here? I'm picking up Asuka and having tons of fun but I feel a bit lost on what to do roundstart, to get out of pressure, how to structure offense, etc. Anybody got tips or a guide or something? Maybe a guide is a bit optimistic right now with 2.00 being so fresh
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Cool
Guess it's time to look into them
Is Haute 42 a decent brand?
A quick Amazon search shows a lot of those, and I remember someone mentioning them on /v/ but I don't remember if it was in a positive way.
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Yeah that sounds about right.
That info would be most useful for someone who doesn't even know the character at all I guess.
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Gio slopa~
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Kino is back on the menu for me
>can't configure anything about the game and the default button layout is complete nonsense
>d-pad doesn't even work and can't enable it
Oh yeah now THIS is Daisuke's Vision
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>tune in to see if he's actually playing Asuka well
>Round start walk backwards timid 5Ps for no reason
>cycles through spells at 1 spell per hour
>Doesnt instant choose whoch test case he wants to be in, or cast spells
Awesome bait lad you got me
I dunno who he's winning against but not seeing much Asuka gameplay
Also lol the Milia crouch spam into instant LTG close game classic
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They fucked up Testament really badly but seeing Slayer stayed straight makes me think they might do Zappa well. In his ending he already kinda came around to terms with S-Ko when he asked for her to come back and she did, and he could see her now. I don’t think the gameplay will be any good or worth switching to strive long term for but I’m interested in how they handle it and not dooming too much on the character front.
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Kliff or I riot.
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What is the point of this move now? It already wasnt that good but now im not sure what to do with it after the nerfs
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>>563587516
to be fair, I'd say lolcalizers tried to fuck with him in interpreting only a small facet of the Japanese usage of "ロマン,"
attempting to omit the word entirely, even when the whole game is based around Roman(tic) Cancels, and when it had historically be interpreted as "Those with no sense of romance" that suitably covered the Japanese usage already
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They would run out of characters by that point and have to do all newcomers and crossover characters
Given we've had exactly one original newcomer post-Season 1, and that was alternate universe genderbent Sin Kiske, I don't expect the devs to suddenly go hard into that
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Asuka is new for being playable. There are plenty of shitter side characters that you could make playable like that moustache dude or pope mom. Not to mention they still have several old playable characters they can throw in if they are really desperate.
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we sneed Gig to save -strive-
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one could believe that Westerners of the Romance Languages wouldn't understand Romanticism, if Arc and localizers weren't historically infiltrated
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Anyone here using Jam?
Does her Gekirin (normal) versus her 214K~Gekirin almost look the same even though the second one is 10 frames slower?
Because the frame advantage is very different. And I was hoping the difference between the 2 is deceptive enough, that's really good.
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I just install nude mods for every character in the game except for my main.
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GGST supers are notoriously hard. You have 330 MS to complete the inputs and it takes about 200 MS to complete them. It feels very glitchy to do on a tech, and so people recommend buffering the inputs in blockstun or buffering them in neutral. Doing the inputs naked on a tech is a fast way to die.
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Can you cancel Shizu 1 into Nago's new move?
If you can, does that mean he regained his high-low mix or is it too slow?
I don't have my PC to check right now.
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>GGST supers are notoriously hard
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we've been having a lot of these weird capdrone opinions in this general lately lol
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https://x.com/smerinthinae/status/2044030559945667029
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So it appears ArcSys only has enough characters left for this remaining season and 1 more, 6 characters to be specific. 4 of them are obvious, Zappa, Kum, Raven, and Answer. The other 2 could be Gabriel and Ariels. Filling season 7 would be a tall order and makes me think this game will only have 6 seasons before the next brand new Guilty Gear.
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Half circle supers take at least 20 frames to input so I don't know why you're acting as if they aren't hard.
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Ariels bros, she's on Korea/China/Japan list
Surely she's in in season 4
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>On stairs of losers' spines, they stomp in steel heels
>They Stomp In Steel Heels
>THEY STOMP IN STEEEEL HEEEEEEEEEEELS
>Bleeding from our wounds; the will that they dread
>Legs. Won't. Kneel-down.
>They Were Forged To Rise
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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This is so fucking funny man like I know why they do it like this, the website only allows you to pick one flag, but its so supremely fucking funny that there is no distinction between county flag and lgbt+ flags at all
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oh no bro the American Defense Leauge is here they're gonna teach me a lesson!
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Martian colony flags??
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>>563602224
Bro's PR is so bad he has to pretend to be a bystander
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>>563587005
You're playing the pc version, right? There's a config that it should prompt you to open when launching but if not then go to the files. And that should allow you to better change your controls and enable dpad.
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I don't feel I have that solid a grasp of the new Asuka at the moment, but his roundstart isn't that different from before. Screamer and Howling Metron (the blue cube) are good options and when you think someone's going to do a fast f.S to beat Screamer you can 6P yourself, or if you think they're going to 6P to beat Howling Metron you can downback, wait and see and then whiff punish with 2D.
My gameplan at present is to get into Test Case 2 quickly and just go all-in, never recharging my mana unless I'm in mana break. Then when you get to 50 meter you can fish for auto-regen and import in Test Case 3. Test Case 2 has the most reliable offense now I feel and the low-gravity staff can be nice in neutral while the high-gravity staff can let you keep some offense even without your spells - here's an example of that: https://youtu.be/ee6fv8QWr9c?si=Rq6mJqGlabdpeBCj&t=191
I still don't feel I have a great grasp of him on the whole though, personally, but maybe if you're not used to doing 22P/K for charge it'll be easier to adjust to it being the new staves anyway.
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Literally not a single mention of Kliff.
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>>563601451
I can safely say the trans people have created far more positive impact on the world than retard americans. americans are racist, dirty, fat, stupid, and above all, annoying. where i am american and israeli is the same thing
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>All WAs gone which hurts Pot more than most
>fS 5H potbuster gone
>Potbuster no longer has armor and it
>Command grabs are no longer throw invul which hurts Pot more than anyone in the entire game
>You can't PRC after a throw which hurts Pot more than anyone in the entire game
>6K and Garuda RPS are a bit less messed up and his defense is worse (also because super PRC is gone). Can't PRC buster if you guess right
>Hammerfall loses to lows. Most characters have a low 2S/2H. Have to still be careful with hammerfall into as well giganter
>Hammerfall PRC into Potbuster damage is pathetic now
>projectile scaling nerfed which means GI into PB does less damage
>jD no longer disjointed
>cS no longer connects after megafist which is an undocumented nerf
>giganter shortened to 1.5 seconds and faster.
>flick projectile soft knockdown
>Flick distance shortened
>5H soft knockdown
>6H loops nerfed
>Possibly more but I can't think of everyone
Its crazy to think that with literally over 15 nerfsPotemkin is still really good
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While I prefer femboy Bridget, I can't deny trans claimage of it skyrocketed his porn to the stratosphere, and Trans are more likely to make Bridget the dominant one which is to my taste.
All in all, a fair trade ultimately, which I can just interpret them as male in the art anyways
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can i get a tl:dr on johnny's pressure?
more specifically when he uses the step dash to close in after mist finer card explosion.
i kinda got fucked earlier by one.
i've tried to jab him out of it but i got whiff punished while he moved in?
not even getting into the high/low part of it
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Leffen still thinks hes top 5
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I've been grinding this game after a long hiatus and I have to say, am I in the trenches? I'm in like high plat/low diamond ATM and I have to ask, why am I climbing this ladder so quickly and so consistently?
I don't know what half the roster even does, I stopped after S1
I don't know any combos
I don't know what to do with my new meme move
I don't know matchups
I'm just heartMAXXing and hurling myself at people and it works, I feel like I'm stat checking people like I'm trundle from league
what's going on?
am I just naturally cracked
is leo still laughably overpowered and one of the best characters in the game
is it because at the end of the day strive is still strive? This sucks I'm gonna get to vanquisher and go back to xturd
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>>563605112
They'll resurrect him as his young ikemen self
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>>563604643
Turns out that he didn't actually need any of it to do well.
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>>563605098
As Leo the burden of knowledge is on your opponent to know how to play against you before the actual gameplay starts
As a different non mixup/grinder character, especially who doesn't have a DP or high HP, the burden is on yourself to know the other matchups before you can realistically start your gameplan
It's more or less that I would say.
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I just realized that Jam's full card chage here is way better than in Xrd. Just because it charges all moves, and is faster than in Xrd. Where in Xrd you need to charge 1 move 3 times to get the max or holding the charge to get max, but it only charges one move.
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full screen safe on block forward advancing move that counts as being covered by a projectile is some of the most kuso shit this game has and removes 2/3rds of the games interactions
mathematically all her offense against block puts her safe so a large majority of the cast that are more stubby don't have answers
these 2 things combined on a high health character means may turns a 1v1 game into a singleplayer game where one person is simply waiting for the may to fuck up
chipp is the same but he gets touch-of-deathed by half the cast and requires really fast inputs that make it more prone to error and nago kills himself
may is an autocombo character like unika
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Why can a man not simply enjoy his buttrock?
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are people actually attracted to bedwoman?
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>>563586621
I'm gonna get a C-AT next week. I like the wider, separated sides layout and two large thumb buttons more than the other models. Printable custom artwork swapping looks fun. Also compatible with their regular non-adjustable caps, but lose the height adjustment feature
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I'm an occasional lolicon and I think she's unattractive sexually
however her depressed demeanor is funny
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>22yo
>Still flat as a board
is it over for may?
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Naoki just sings and picks who performs the songs sometimes.
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I love Leo's theme so fucking much. It sounds like my favorite power metal bands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q7P-aqLzpM
Genuinely one of the best guilty gear songs of all time. I had a really cool, but kind of low effort, twitter video someone made when the game was new, but I lost it.
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https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/11099347?q=kuradoberi_jam+
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>>563611323
No, it's just you. Absolutely not a sitewide problem.
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>>563603348
>Screamer and Howling Metron (the blue cube) are good options and when you think someone's going to do a fast f.S to beat Screamer you can 6P yourself, or if you think they're going to 6P to beat Howling Metron you can downback, wait and see and then whiff punish with 2D.
Extremely helpful, thank you. Seems like almost every roundstart you've got screamer or howling metron to work with. I'll stop backdashing like a bot
I've been sticking to test case 1 just for simplicity's sake to get used to playing him and bookmarking quickly but TC2 and 3 are very tempting to dip into for the stronger spells, I'll try swapping to TC2 if/when I win roundstart next time I boot up.
>but maybe if you're not used to doing 22P/K for charge it'll be easier to adjust to it being the new staves anyway.
I dinked around with him on launch but I had kinda given up on the game already by that point and just defaulted to my old main for the few matches I played. I guess it's a plus that I have no mana charge muscle memory on those inputs. Not having the staves clutter up your spellbook is REALLY nice as a beginner and I'd imagine it's good for stronger players to have them on demand once they get used to the change.
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Normal is -4. Even though it's that way I think it's her best special. Just because of the freedom of movement you can do and still do it.
Although it's slower Gekirin is -1 on block carded Gekirin is the same (-1).
That's massively buffed from Xrd. It was -13 on block. EVEN carded it was -6.
Now if we are talking demon flip Gekirin, that shit is +7. That's fucked up.
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please dont use your discord name when youre gonna ragequit
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MOBERIC
GET OFF THE FUCKING COMPUTER YOUR CRUSTY ASS CANNOT PLAY EVEN ON THE FUCKING BRIDGE STAGE
HOLY SHIT 8 FRAMES OF DELAY ON THE SIMPLEST STAGE IN THE ENTIRE GAME AND YOU HAVE THE FUCKING AUDACITY TO PICK ZATO
WORTHLESS FUCKING POORFAG
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I definitely think TC1 is the big loser of the patch. Its spells were good in the context that they were cheap and you could make someone block a lightning cube and get a good mana refund from charging after, but many of those spells don't feel worth the asking price anymore. The increased cost of the more expensive ones feels like less of a big deal comparatively, and in a way you also want expensive but effective cards as much as possible because they're the best option to go into mana break with. If you're in TC1 your best options to go into mana break are probably the lighting cube or Screamer, which are okay but not nearly as preferable as Delayed Tardus Metron or Arpeggio, which you won't get in Test Case 1.
I feel like Test Case 1 is doomed to become the deck that has slow staff, reduced mana cost and not much else, because while its spells are good, they feel very much like they were designed with his previous mana economy in mind. They are good, but a significant part of why they were good was in their price and how they could set up a chance to recover your mana, which they don't have going for them anymore.
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I feel like I hit my limit and I won't progress anymore. I'm just absolute shit at neutral and have zero idea how to improve, I simply don't understand what should I do...
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>>563616583
Anji is so fucking easy you just run up to him and throw the little manlet cant do anything about that
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>>563610552
Please gggbros I know you guys have the good ones
>>563610763
I don't like(hate) bridget
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>>563617137
new character syndrome.
Gio actually has a bit of trouble stopping Jams monkey buttons and when she's knocked down there is 0 defense against Jams constant 50/50 bullshit. it's a similar problem to Millia
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Sure, Jam
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True. UMISHO, Razzo, Jiyuna, JMcrofts and Sajam have all been reported as having Queen of Spades tattoos after spending time 'labbing' with him.
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>what is risk vs reward
There is now risk to what move you get hit by.
Go ahead and show me a Sol combo starting with 5p or 2k that does 60% like they used to last patch?
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is the bottom of his neck caused by acne? please understand i have never seen a black person in my life so i cant just ask them.
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I'm opening players up as Jack-O with throw, 2K etc., but it's all moves that don't lead to high damage. What should I be doing to open the opponent up in a way that lets me melt their lifebar? I know I can do almost half their health with a simple c.S starter if I have 50% tension, but frametrapping into c.S seems tricky because I'll hit my servant and mess up the combo even if they mash.
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Was there a new character designer/lead after XX? Feel like they forgot how to design women starting with Xrd. They’re all either generic anime designs with oversexed personalities or just completely boring nothings like Gio and Unika. Like nobody would look twice at Jack-O if she didn’t bend over. She’s otherwise interchangeable with like a Genshin Impact character
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>>563621426
he's right and prob knows way more since he is in the secret pro discords, tiger pop for example went from a normal looking guy to suddenly having long hair and painted nails
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>>563621426
Yeah. Every single pro lgbt especially tranny media becomes mental illness mecca. Id rather have some edgy fags with hitler avatar than literal groomers and other elements like that. Strives community is geniuenly worst modern video game community after smelle finally died which isnt suprising since majority of Strivers are smelle tourists so basically you got porn addicts, tranny groomers and pedos.
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stamina kind of reminds me of drive gauge and that pisses me off
elphelts really fun but I hope she's not too simple, she seems more interesting this patch so far though? she plays kinda normal I guess
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why not
she schlicks on the bed
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hello. my name is harry mason and im looking for my daughter.
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Will i get banned or hacked for that? Sounds too good to be true
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>>563627203
creamapie queen dizzy
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wait I thougth I just had to predict and intercept Jam, you're telling me her command dash actually lets her PHASE through my poke and THEN explode a giant fucking puffball on my face? which anti-airs and is safe on block???
bitch gets to do it from fullscreen too
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>>563627047
I think he's talking about DLC in general
but all the DLC is also kind of selling a solution to a problem they made, like how all the DLC characters are functionally immune to Deflect Shield (which doesn't matter much since DS is a meme)
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Individual games might try to ban you from their online components if their anti-cheat detects you fucking with steamapi (usually they just prevent you from going online), but to date Steam has never banned anyone for using it. They don't really give a fuck, I imagine Steam gets a lesser cut for DLC so isn't as incentivized to prevent DLC piracy. As for getting banned from Strive, lol lmao. Japanese are extremely inept when it comes to online infrastructure, they couldn't ban people even if they wanted to.
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No. The way it works is it replaces the steam.api with it's own version that tells Steam you have the DLC even if you don't own it. So if you ditch it you will go back to not owning Dizzy. But like I said, nobody has ever gotten a Steam ban over it and Japanese devs don't ban people for using it, so there isn't really much to worry about (assuming you get it from a proper source and don't install some shady software from a random site).
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>>563608775
She has a nice, round ass.
Characters with no tits but good ass are peak female design
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>knock Anji away
>he spins through whatever I do if I try to poke
>if I block it he goes into his rekka from it
What's the level 1 counterplay to this
I struggle to even understand what he's doing
4chan captcha is taking so long to load that I get into another match by the time I can enter it and it expires by the time that match ends FUCK
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I use cs.rin.ru, though that requires some manual fiddling usually. I have heard there are automatic setups now, but have no experience with them. It's game-specific, and sometimes you have to download DLC files in addition to fucking around with creamapi. Cs.rin.ru has threads for each game and usually each thread has the files pre-configured. If I recall correctly Strive doesn't require anything special.
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Level 1 is run up grab the instant you see him spin. Level 2 is hit the lab and train yourself to stuff him trying to throw out his charged rekka in neutral with a 2k. It takes some practice to be able to feel when to throw out the 2k not too early that you're hitting into spin but not too late that you're getting counterhit by a followup but once you get it down you'll be able to enjoy watching Anjis flounder as they have no idea what to do in neutral anymore.
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2.0 bracket set for april 18th 5pm est
global tournament
double elimination ft3
register HERE
https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/VW257aRG8F#/signup/f28yvue9lf
it WILL be streamed, and i WILL have a cohost if a certain sinkiskeis willing to join me
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I lost 1000 points today
I don't know how to find stability in this fucking game
It feels like every character has some kind of reset that's plus on block and avoids 6P unless you time it perfectly
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>>563628897
both long spin and fuujin are vulnerable to throws
fuujin in particular moves hurtboxes forward before active frames
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>>563629931
I'm gonna need one of you to take out the local anji cause if I have to play faust vs anji in tournament I'm gonna start running around my house naked and screaming
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>>563617230
do you think he makes the zesty facial expressions consciously or not
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But she can change how long she floats in the air and gets a reset if I expect the later timing
I don't understand how everything can be so safe and loopable on offense while ALSO making the defensive options a high-risk gamble. I'm used to one or the other but Jam can just do it over and over and at any point go into her 236K RC or reset into throw and no matter what she lands she doesn't get pushed out or ANYTHING. I can't even get her off me with Deflect Shield
How do you people live like this
How have you people survived five fucking years of the game being like this
How did you survive the game being like this but with even HIGHER damage
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>>563626643
Did ky really have sex with her?
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>>563630873
The epitome of balance.
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>>563630873
I TOLD YOU SOL IS BAD
SOL
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ADMIT IT
ADMIT IT RIGHT MEOW
SOL
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SHIIIIIIIIIIITT!!!!!!!
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>>563630873
You said I was buffed?
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Poor ABA
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>>563634794
Every single change she received was warranted and deserved.
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>>563634854
if you're interested in her just play her, she doesn't have anything too crazy. the biggest thing is some of her moves are very unsafe to throw out. diaphone's guide is a good starting point if you decide to try
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>>563635086
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>>563635357
Yes, Jam is back, we have known this for a while.
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Soulless
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Hello
Who should I play to be a special snowflake
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This character is kind of cute
Is she good?
Is shefun?
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i think she looks cool in the normal way people thought characters looked cool before becoming parasocial for gifs and addicted to porn, i'd have rented a game with her on the cover doing a cool pose as a kid
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Idk man in the series that gave us this I’m just not seeing how you look at Unika and think she’s cute/cool without just having shit taste. I even give Gio fans a pass despite her being dull as a doorknob but I draw the line at Unika
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>>563636728
her appeal is that, despite having big boobs, a thin waist, and nice legs, she lacks sex appeal due to the covered-up nature of her clothing and general lack of confidence, so her desperation for anyone to call her attractive makes up for it
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Careful, you might give the Gen 1'er an aneurysm
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>Jam whiffs 2H in neutral
>close in to punish
>Puffball into HKD into mixup death
why does every character have this bullshit why cant I just punish a fucking poke holy fucking shit you ritalin abusing faggots
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if you have to close in first you weren't spaced properly to whiff punish, that's when you just approach and block to take space and see what they do when they're minus in neutral. If they do nothing or backdash good, you got further from the corner, if they mash fine you're blocking and safe, if they throw out something risky great now you get a punish
puffball is -8 in this game
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>>563636057
She's good enough, though she has some pretty rough and lopsided matchups.
Though if you're just picking up the game it's worth noting that she's A LOT better at low and mid levels of play where people don't fuzzy and don't know how to answer to all her plus frames.
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>>563637656
>spats
>thigh highs
>zettai ryouiki
>lacking sex appeal
I don't know about that m8
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>>563640438
That was what Fafnir was for and it was way cooler than this shit with sidewinder. His Fafir combos were both cool and interesting on a technical level, now it's just c.S > HVV > sidewinder > c.S > HVV > sidewinder
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Sol is currently easily in his most sauceless form ever apart from Missing Link because he has more sauce in Isuka and Judgment too. Hes so fucking boring to play that I might drop him after 20 years or just stop Striving.
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>>563640285
But that's the best part. You know she's trying, but just doesn't have the confidence to flaunt it properly. She looks in the mirror and thinks she is the most unsexy woman imaginable. Then, when someone does call her attractive, she looks at them in disgust and calls them a creep, but at night she's shlicking in her bed, replaying the whole interaction!
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I think he's better against most of the cast than last patch, but more difficult to play because HKD fafnir and meterless midscreen carry into wall break (with CL fafnir wallbounce and 5F 2K) made him stronger at a lower level before.
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It does make sense from a consistency standpoint but >>563640240 ; also I personally found the hitstop from CL HVV satisfying / it made timing FRRC air combos easier.
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Getting pickups off of CL SWI is too restrictive to be fun; barring RC you get 1-2 hits before you must hit HVV, and then you can only reasonably pick up with c.S or 5K, usually just 5K unless the opener was a single hit confirmed c.S. You can pickup CL Fafnir with 2K or sometimes 5H / delay 5H (and rarely 2S) but the latter 2 feel inconsistent and are likely a symptom of the hurtbox fuckery they've already acknowledged. Also what >>563640605 said; while I wouldn't say they were interesting once they were mostly figured out it was cool to see really good players find a way to land them out of seemingly random pickups.
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He feels like de-tuned S3 Sol. I'd wait for ASW to fix the hurtbox consistency shenanigans and give people a chance to develop him (as grim as it looks). Hopefully things will smooth out by the May battle pass release that I assume will also include some minor tuning (I don't think they're giving him anything specifically though). Also, I've seen some fucked up cool shit you can do with Sol as he is now; it just hasn't been moulded into generally applicable tech yet.
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There are no modern controls but other than that maybe idk; try watching some recent footage on youtube or twitch.
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>>563641845
Games that detect DLC unlockers just temp suspend you and thats it. Some wont even do that but just show pop up to remove API that interfers with DLCs but thats it. Valve detected SmokeAPI for example some time ago but they havent banned anyone yet. Keyword yet but Valve will just release statement that if you use it they might ban you but wont retroactively ban you if you used it in past thats how they operate. Basically you're safe until Valve will decide to ban people but even then you will just have to stop using it and thats it. Im using DLC unlockers on my main for a decade now and i will continue until Valve will release statement that they start banning for usage of these.
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Arcsys truly does not give enough of a shit to engineer a seperate DLC validation mechanic that takes creamapi into account for their fucking hackjob pc port that barely works.
japanese companies do not fucking care about PC ports they just throw the games on there and let steam handle it.
fuck, Granblue VS rising has had a demo exploit since day fucking 1 that gives you the entire game for free and all you gotta do is update it every once in a while
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She's like a cross between Ky and Sol. It's fun to mash with her, and shut off parts of the screen while your buttons and specials are out, but I haven't played her long enough to tell if she's truly effective yet.
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Arcsys truly does not give enough of a shit to engineer a seperate DLC validation mechanic that takes creamapi into account for their fucking hackjob pc port that barely works.
japanese companies do not fucking care about PC ports they just throw the games on there and let steam handle it.
fuck, Granblue VS rising has had a demo exploit since day fucking 1 that gives you the entire game for free and all you gotta do is update it every once in a while
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They would have to use some third party anti cheat or develop own custom server side solution and yeah good luck that its arcsys. Capcom being the most kosher publisher did both to a point where SF6 wont even launch solely because you have debugger or CheatEngine icons on your desktop lmao.
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SF5 got server side one late and MK11 and Injustice 2 had it too. MK11 and Injustice 2 were just suspending you from playing online for 24 hours first time and then with every detection suspension time was getting 2x so first time 24 hours then 48 hours.
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Arcsys truly does not give enough of a shit to engineer a seperate DLC validation mechanic that takes creamapi into account for their fucking hackjob pc port that barely works.
japanese companies do not fucking care about PC ports they just throw the games on there and let steam handle it.
fuck, Granblue VS rising has had a demo exploit since day fucking 1 that gives you the entire game for free and all you gotta do is update it every once in a while
oh my fucking god this captcha is unbearable
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She's like a cross between Ky and Sol. It's fun to mash with her, and shut off parts of the screen while your buttons and specials are out, but I haven't played her long enough to tell if she's truly effective yet.
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>>563642982
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>>563642874
Nigo basically got buffed in a patch that smoked rest of cast. Hes going to be undisputed numero uno unless some autistic trooncel will discover some new happy faggot tech. Most retarded change is how he now has bloodless mid screen combos into wallbreak due to his CS being jump cancellable and launching in a patch that took away midscreen conversions from everybody else.
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>>563643160
She's desperate and crazy, and didn't come out of the factory with an understanding of what men want, how men work, or even how men communicate. All she knows is that she has to somehow try to please men.
In short, she's just a teenager trying, and failing, to get dicked down.
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I don't download that shit because there's no fucking way I'm downloading shady files from a Russian forum
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I don't think arcsys is incompetent, they're not stupid they're well aware people are using the PS4 skins on PC. But most people buy the DLC because its convienent and theyre too lazy to go to other websites to find a program and install it, mess around with renaming and moving around files. for 90% of the population thats already too much work, they're tech illiterate. And those who do go through the trouble tend to be people that will play strive for significantly longer than everyone else, so they keep player retention up, which is another metric Arcsys likes aside from profits
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To add on, it's not a stretch to say that the average person will never go out of their way to find a website that isn't a designated social media or online shopping site. The age of internet exploration is not only dead, it's children were buried next to it.
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I haven't pirated anything in well over 15 years and I have no intention of starting again, but removing the Blazing Edition was a bitch move by Arcsys.
I just wish the price of individual characters was not so retarded so I could buy Season 4 and Elphelt.
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>gets into argument with caretaker
>can't accept the fact that he is in the wrong
>loses his temper
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>>563645149
Hyappo Shinshou!!
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>I don't think arcsys is incompetent
How fucking new are you? It took them over a year to stop a hacker from crashing every popular streamer who tried to stream the game whenever a new DLC came out. It took the game over 5 minutes to launch, and this too took over a year to "fix" (it still takes a comical amount of time) despite the fact that a random guy on the internet made a fix for it in 24 hours that cut the time down to 1-2 minutes. Their rollback was made by a westerner who later said that they are terrible to work with.
ArcSys is extremely incompetent when it comes to anything online, they do not have even the capacity to ban people for using creamapi, if they even know about it, which they almost certainly don't considering how insular and sheltered Japs are.
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>bring it up to plat
>pick the next character to mash with and have fun
help me pick the next gorilla.
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Fug Jaggo
Marry Ram
Kill Elphelt
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>>563654774
kill ram
fuck jacko
marry elphelt
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>know the combos pretty well
>cant really execute them beyond simple 3 max strings from poking moves cause i need to get upclose and personal and they can just counter me
>tried to play cautiously but they can just rush in, grab me and do their one trick wallbreak combo if I got a single opening
I also wanna touch of death someone with the things ive learned......any tips on how to hit those aggressive close range starters without the entire cast counterhitting me?
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I wish I could get tower matches for 5 minutes before w*rk
I know why I can't but it would be nice
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Nta but right now as Gio i know
>cs > fs > 5h > 214k
>spamming 5h hit confirm in neutral
>just learned 2k > 6p > 214p
Anyway my question is, at what rank should i learn some real combos? Silver right now.
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>>563656793
>approach in air with may air Hs
>gets outsped by faster aerials
>meanwhile jam can just spam her bullshit mixup flame kicks and get the same combos
How do you even use 2k to poke while they are just going to counter that shit? 5k to 3k or D then dolphin if i am lucky is all i can do
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>>563657885
I feel your pain maybro
I can't ever land a starter for one of the decent combos I know, instead I have to just win neutral like 12 times with stray hits to ko my opponent, while they all use hyper optimized combos off every stray hit and ko me off winning neutral 3 times.
God forbid if they know how to 6P dolphin too, its so over for me then, every blockstring is just shut off, all I can do is land stray hits and run up grab.
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>>563654774
Fuck Ram
Marry Jack-O
Kill Elphelt
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>>563658284
Exactly, i have to read their moves and learn their shit and use my poke moves and reversals properly while they can just spam the same shit over and over. Isnt may supposed to be a rushdown character?
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>>563658720
uhhh...
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Test to see if captcha is still incredibly fucked with an unwaranted range ban
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>>563658836
it tried
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>>563660207
Listen for her audio cues, she has a specific voice line for each dolphin that gives away whether she's going horizontal or vertical, S ver or HS ver.
Also don't respect her pressure, her plus frames are meaningless unless you just blocked beach ball or a HS. She also can't mix overheads well without taking 20f minimum to do it, so blocking low is a safe bet most of the time.
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>>563660207
Listen for her audio cues, she has a specific voice line for each dolphin that gives away whether she's going horizontal or vertical, S ver or HS ver.
Also don't respect her pressure, her plus frames are meaningless unless you just blocked beach ball or a HS. She also can't mix overheads well without taking 20f minimum to do it, so blocking low is a safe bet most of the time since you can react to her going high.
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>>563654774
Fuck Jacko. Crazy girls are the most fun in bed.
Marry Ram.
Kill Elphelt.
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How do I play May in Strive? My brain is still currently set to "gattling kick slash 2D heavy dolphin force break" and nothing works. Also H dolphin is slow as molasses now and gets me counter hit. I need to reboot.
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>>563661240
I haven't tried 2.0 yet. May sucks now?
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>>563661442
you speak like someone that's never played a high skill may
may is a pressure monster because her conversions are crazy and she enforces constant scrambles which if you take you're gambling with your whole healthbar. S dolphin is -4 so unless you're IBing it or carried, that shit is a scramble
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>hug may
>kiss may
>marry may
>love may
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>>563661974
S dolphin is +3 now, and I still feel like I'm fucking minus for using it.
I wish I could play a high skill May, but no one plays her in ranked and watching replays doesn't help me understand why they're pressure is respected, other than the fact that 90% of people in silver, gold, plat are mashers so pressure is never respected down here.
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>>563661471
Its the same game but with less combo routes which is what "lowered" power levels and damage so basically its very artificial solution that only made game more boring. Thats it. You still explode but instead in three different ways theres one way so everyone goes for that one optimal way to explode your ass for 60% off one touch into wallbreak and positive bonus. Anyone who says 2.0 is a different game is a brainlet.
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>>563662350
>How do we feel about Damon and Baby being the real unironic confirmed canon sequel to Strive
I'm interested because of how Daisuke is trying to make both GG and Blazblue connected so I'm looking forward how it turns out. So far I don't see how Daisuke "ruined" Ragna or Blazblue yet so I have no objection for his new "vision". Hopefully he actually talks to Mori for all of this.
>Daisuke wants to make 2 more DnB games even if they don't sell well
I'd say let him be and I think this is why.
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/spending-decades-working-on-one-th ing-only-to-realize-you-cant-do-any thing-else-guilty-gear-creator-disc usses-dangers-of-modern-aaa-develop ments-overspeci/
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>>563662543
I noticed a lot of characters start with exactly c.S in Strive as opposed to before where it was various kicks, slashes, far pokes, or specials. Is that the unga button of this game? Seems like it's going to get old fast.
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Is my wife buffed or nerfed
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>+3
>can't continue pressure
>have to return to neutral guessing games
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>563663952
I don't like blocking a super or a DP and not pressing some kind of slow dedicated giant punish button because the normal combo button you use all the time will give you more damage anyway making anything being especially negative pointless. People will go oh this is MINUS THIRTY its DEATH to get it blocked when -8 and -70 are effectively identical.
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>>563655121
alright, first impressions after the placement matches.
>man, i can take a beating
>far slash is hard to combo after because i'm retarded and i don't know which one of his 15 specials to use
>also god damn, that's a lot of input overlap between his command normals and specials
>haven't landed a single PB yet, the way i see people do it is by doing HF break, but fuck me that's a lot of inputs
>half of my neutral is just rawdogging HF, because people apparently don't know it's minus a quintillion on block? the other half is poking with f.S and jump H/megafisto
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>>563664096
>its harder than Strive
Ironically, this is actually true. Granblue lets you loop plus frames with little to no counterplay other than BC spam and praying your delay tech or mash works. So pretth much defense revolves around BCing the opponent before he can start his pressure since everyone has batshit insanity like the infamous +2 lunging 66L and the far more egregious +4 c.L. Let me say that again, twice. Jab is +4 on block. STANDARD JABS. ARE PLUS FOUR. ON BLOCK. AND FRAMETRAP INTO EVERYTHING.
That game holds a grudge against anyone who holds down back
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Because everybody getting to start combos with ultra fast pokes, then go straight into c.S>f.S>2S>HS>whatever your character has to score a knockdown was really gay, degenerate, and lame, so now you have to use slash.
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>>563661471
I don't play anji but I can see where he's coming from, right now he's a totally mindless fuujin bot. and I think Fuujin is the reason why Anji is a failure of game design, getting a high low off of every interaction is the reason why he's dogshit to balance, either fuujin is good and he's obnoxious to fight, or fuujin is bad and he's bad. I'm oversimplifying it but you guys get what I mean
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>>563661471
I don't play anji but I can see where he's coming from, right now he's a totally mindless fuujin bot. and I think Fuujin is the reason why Anji is a failure of game design, getting a high low off of every interaction is the reason why he's dogshit to balance, either fuujin is good and he's obnoxious to fight, or fuujin is bad and he's bad. I'm oversimplifying it but you guys get what I mean
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>>563661471
I don't play anji but I can see where he's coming from, right now he's a totally mindless fuujin bot. and I think Fuujin is the reason why Anji is a failure of game design, getting a high low off of every interaction is the reason why he's dogshit to balance, either fuujin is good and he's obnoxious to fight, or fuujin is bad and he's bad. I'm oversimplifying it but you guys get what I mean
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>>563661471
I don't play anji but I can see where he's coming from, right now he's a totally mindless fuujin bot. and I think Fuujin is the reason why Anji is a failure of game design, getting a high low off of every interaction is the reason why he's dogshit to balance, either fuujin is good and he's obnoxious to fight, or fuujin is bad and he's bad. I'm oversimplifying it but you guys get what I mean
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I'll try posting again when 4chan actually works.
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>>563666502
I mean yeah, but he can also special cancel into fuujin, for the record I think fuujin is still very bad, too high risk low reward but in its current iteration it cannot be good, yet that's also all he has. I'm just trying to explain why anji has been reworked more times than Ryze from league of legends yet is still a total mess
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>>563650910
She’d be more popular if she didn’t look like she belongs in a NuFireEmblem game. Everyone can see from a mile away that she doesn’t fit with the series aesthetics and design ethos. Designing a character for anime onlies who didn’t even exist yet was certainly a choice.
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what do i do about BAKU SHIN SHOOOOOOOU
>>563664124
if you block a super or DP you probably get a 5H / 2H counter hit and can dash into a regular cl.S starter instead so... thats different!
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>>563663646
She's a bit better. Her changes are
>monowire and live wire no longer whiff if opponent is too high
>risc hack make H buttons guard crash which can force a mix
The last one is cool but kinda situational. Overall, she got better mostly because some other characters got worse.
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Jam is going to be a character that never ever gets into top 8 but everyone says is OP isn't she?
Am I going to have to deal with this where silver timmies keep saying how broken she is when every tournament player is saying she's very meh?
I think this is the first time I've seen Diaphone give up on trying to get a character to masters
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>>563671637
No meterless reversal and stubby ass normals gives her an uphill battle.
>puffball
Half the cast has fuckhuge lows and it's -8 oB. I don't think it's really that good. It's basically just a way to stay out of mauling range when you have to end your pressure. She does have a cute setup I like to use
Starter>236H>c.S/5K>6H>236S>214K>c.S/236S
The 236S even beats a lot reversals (not Sol's or Leo's of course)
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>>563672849
You can literally churn butter supers in this game. The only way supers could be more scrub friendly is by taking the Granblue route where you just mash buttons in blockstun and sodomize someone if he goes for a frametrap.
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>>563671637
Diaphone is not a good metric for this. Regardless of good he is in the game. Doesn't help that 2.0 is a different game now compared to before.
Right now she's strong. But not OP. That said there are new stuff I see getting posted about her that make people react "wow she can do that?". She has tons of stuff that are good about her. The only difference is that she's new and the other characters, while now in a different meta, still feel familiar.
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>>563671637
Diaphone is watching Jam replays right now and he's reacting to basic new Jam tech as something he never expected she could do. He's going "WOW! That's possible?!" right now. Find someone else that's actually good.
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>>563680057
He got hit pretty hard in the new patch but no amount of nerfs will make him bad
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>>563680404
don't worry little buddy. lobby in an hour probably
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>>563682892
They just fixed her in 2.0. Now she's actually bad in NM as god intended.
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>>563676946
I learned stick specifically for this game back at launch as a '21er and I haven't regretted it for a second
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>>563676946
Pad, but then my thumb said, "no way, fag," and so now leverless and keyboard
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>>563676047
Fake news
t. 36 and still using a stick
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Finally... Peace...
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>>563687279
but the Ottoman only accepted pristine shotas
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>>563687883
She is a different flavor of Gorilla that is more on the Ky side, favoring big fuckoff normals and being plus from Over There as opposed to being plus in your face
really fucking annoying character you should give her a shot if you dont mind the complete and utter lack of a personality (favorite hobby: seasoning)
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>>563636057
i read criticism earlier that she doesn't fit into the game, a bad design, just for fans of the anime, or whatever.
i never watched whatever she's from but here are the FACTS - Unika is the cute-hottest girl in the game, she has the best fit, she has the coolest animations and feels like one of the highest production characters in the game. anyone talking shit is just jealous of how blessed this character is, FACT.
i will leave you with only 1 protip because she's quite simple and you can get the point enough from watching some videos, so just know this; from almost every single BnB you can route to get an OTG 5HH > dash cancel.
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>>563688280
I also didn't watch whatever the fuck she's from but
>cute-hottest girl in the game
I'll begrudgingly accept a tie between Unika and my main.
>best fit
fact
>coolest animations
fact
>apparent highest production
fact but a lot of recent characters feel like they've had a lot of sauce so its close
no Xrd Zato standing the fuck still practically T-posing during their IK here
I'll also add that she has the best Strive original theme in the game and it's only behind Home Sweet Grave and Holy Orders (BE JUST OR BE DEAD) from Overture as far as overall rankings
I do not talk shit about Unika because has a coin flip gone a different way I would be a Unika main right now, but as it stands the coin fell on my new favorite fighting game character..
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ITS A FUCKING 5P
WHY CANT IT BEAT THROW
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO
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>"Strive 2.0"
>look inside
>Ver. 5.00
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What does Giovanna do against people running up with 2K all day?
2D isnt a real option in fact it leaves you open
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>you cant add frame delay to the dummies defensive options
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>>563688280
I like her but she could stand to be more interesting mechanically and Weapons Free is a total misfire. They should really consider just re-working that move in some way because it seems like quite the waste of resources for something you'll see even less than Gamma Ray and HMC.
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>>563693472
IMO since weapons free is a low health only super they should make it extremely powerful. They could go the easy route and make the startup fast and invincible, which is its main issue. Personally I like the idea of the finisher variation placing the opponent directly in the corner with a HKD. it makes sense to me that if you manage to land it the game should give you the tools to make a comeback
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everyone remembered why they hate soive...
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>>563693689
The problem isn't that it's not optimal it's that it's barely usable. It doesn't even activate on airborne opponents. The cost and damage potential is perfectly fine, it's just an extremely awkward move to use with extremely rare opportunities, and it's fine to have moves like that, but Weapons Free pushes it a bit too far. The other moves in the game in the same vein strike a better balance of not being so easily accessible while also feeling like they have reasonable activation conditions.
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nice game soivers
*closes your game*
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