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>Marathon Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGame

>Game Info:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/

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https://www.marathonthegame.com/

>The Entire History of Marathon
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https://marathon.bungie.org/story/

>Play the Original Marathon for Free
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/

Databases:
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https://tauceti.gg/
https://marathonmeta.gg/
https://marathondb.gg/

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News:
>Experimental Queue coming Wednesday 4/15 at 10 am PT
>RECENT PATCH NOTES
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1053
>SEASONS & ROADMAP
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon
>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUT
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0
>RANKED DETAILS
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>CRYO ARCHIVE DETAILS
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/cryo_archive_overview

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First for chuds
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It's been a while since I've played solo. Tips for not dying immediately?
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>>563672270
Use signal jammers, since you can buy them now.
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>If a player has a mic in solos and is generally willing to talk, they tend to be friendly from my experience.

Har har har. CARRII my fat fucking ass!! No one will listen to me asking for link ups. I hate this update because no one fucking plays nice and now I'm trying to play nice but everyone is a trigger happy moron
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>>563672603
As long as Arachne exists as it dies now, there is NO reason to be friendly. He'll, as long as you get xp for downing and killing runners, there's no reason to ever be friendly.
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>If a player has a mic in solos and is generally willing to talk, they tend to be friendly from my experience.

Har har har. CARRII my fat fucking ass!! No one will listen to me asking for link ups. I hate this update because no one fucking plays nice and now I'm trying to play nice but everyone is a trigger happy moron
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Maybe they'll make a friendly faction o_O
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>>563672730
Which is why I hate this update. It should've been baked into the game that there's two ways to approach runs, but now that everyone has been psyop'd into stone cold killers, no one knows how to play in groups. Fuck you, bungie, I hope you shutter this game down and build it back from the ground up, this time with more than one god damn ultimatum for players.
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>>563672270
Get under the bridge/in that truck/under cover within the first 10-15 seconds and then wait for probably 90 seconds. People rushing each other or immediately traversing POIs in the first 2 minutes are the deadliest part of Dire Marsh. If you were stationary and hidden even if you weren't looking that direction there's a good chance you'd hear that guy sprinting and be able to take him by surprise, or he'd be off the initial pathing that made you collide in the first place.
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https://youtu.be/tYzMYcUty6s
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Just lost a 10k kit to an assassin that was just sitting in pinwheel for 20 minutes
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>>563672730
As long as the TTK is as low as it is there's no reason to be friendly. I'm never going to trust someone when they can drop me literally any time I open a container in their field of vision; I might risk it on a Rook/freekit run but if I've got actual gear I am going to kill you every time because it's just too easy for you to backstab me. I honestly think the only way they can make solos friendly would be an item that temporarily makes you invincible to each other as if you were in a squad.
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>>563673347
This game is pozzed like that

Bungie rewards passive playing dickbutts and rains hell down on active players
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>>563672603
>>563673041
Oh it's way fucking worse from what I'm seeing in Asia. The big discord teams are now incentivized and legitimized. Premade groups on solo and teams of 5-9 don't look as glow in the dark cheating as they do. And they can have only one disposable account with the cheats, that passes intel to the rest of the group.

>>563672270
Get x ray cheats and run the fuck away from anyone running at your spawn. Or just recognize people trying to overrun your spawn in the first 60 seconds is the biggest risk.
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>>563673440
Its untrusting cockwarts like you that are making people quit the game. Carri me straight into the garbage why don't you?
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>>563673440
What if the mercy kit effectively forces enemy players into a squad with you? less mercy more mindrape.
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>got the jump on a player but whiffed the last shots I would have needed to kill him and died for it
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Was able to finally do this Traxus quest in Command Wing unmolested. Tried leaving through locked exfil in pinwheel but I saw a thief drone and said nope and left through a vent. Nearly died to the guarded exfil purple commander but I got out.
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>>563674798
i've had exfils where i almost got finished off while downed by the uesc too it's pretty fun to watch
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>>563674990
Yeah they don't fuck around
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>>563673347
>>563673524
I died to a subhuman assassin sitting in a corner by the red keycard once (purple shield, wstr)
looked up him, he literally posted a video getting ratted on last minute by command wing vent and really said "this dude needs to get a life" LOL actual trash
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uhhhhh did we hit 2 mil yet?
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I love playing solos because every match i hear someone go "dude I am just trying to do this contract bro please"
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It's time.
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Can't find an unopened bioprinter, this is ridonculous.
Stop looting them, they're mine!
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>>563676207
Based
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Reminder Recons face can clamp onto your hips when she gives succ
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reminder thief is barefoot which automatically makes her the best shell
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>>563675893
>i love making this game lose players
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why don't they add a mode that puts premades against premades and fill trios against other fill trios?
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>>563678204
that would be great, seriously.
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>have to go to west gate
>spawn in bio-research
>have to go to complex
>spawn in maintenance
they do this shit on purpose, right?
>>563675893
i wouldn't care about dying so much if it weren't because finding a match takes minutes.
>be me
>doing contract
>stop to check the map and ping my destination
>shell modeled after a nigger kills me while on menu
>spam space
>wait 4 minutes to get onto another game
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>>563676207
Trying it oiut and it's a VERY bad mode holy fuck, it's all about being the last time to arrive at the designated teamfight spot or else you lose.
>>563678204
This needs to happen immediately.
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>>563678204
why do you think you deserve lube?
it'd split queues in an already shrinking playerbase so they're probably hesitant but it's really stupid to not work this way from the start
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reminder thief is barefoot which automatically makes her the best shell
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>>563678514
You're supposed to lift weights during that time.
I was a D2 Crucible addict that started lifting weights between matches 8 years ago. Im pretty jacked now.
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>everyone hype for freekit
>it's 50x worse than base mode
Lmao holy fuck all that happens is teams collapse onto any sort of gunfire making it EVEN MORE INCENTIVIZED TO KILL EVERYONE ASAP as if that wasn't Marathon's biggest issue. Not to mention there is nothing worth looting somehow, feels like they reduced loot rewards.
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Gray Zone AI will fuck you up if you give them the opportunity to, actually almost died moving through Pha Lang for a quest.
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Is captcha fucked?
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>>563680540
the entire dogshit ass site has been fucked for nearly 2 days
hopefully it means the end of this shithole soon
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>>563670468
with the mid season update has the game become worth buying as a mainly solo player that might sometimes do crew fill?
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4chan The Raped
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>>563680689
Absolutely not lol, it didn't fix anything
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>hey guys got mics?
>silence
>we spawned next to my objective, one sec
>silence
>they both run to different POIs
>i grab my thing
>where do you guys wanna go?
>silence
>they both get jumped by different teams
>BRO WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU WTF UR ASS AT THIS GAME BRO

>both beg me to rez them
>i say nothing to them as i exfil alone
>BRO COME ON WE KNOW YOU CAN HEAR US

My fault for doing trio fill, I guess.
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>>563680540
Captcha works for me, its just that the posting speed is fucked. And occasionally I get cloudflare errors too.

>>563680689
Depending on who you play with you might find yourself getting raped slightly less, and its at least easier to bounce back from a bad string of losses. But this is still a rape-happy extraction shooter, so you'll have to decide for yourself whether that's worth it or not.
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>>563680928
would be better if this game didn't suck
not your fault
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>>563680661
I genuinely don't know where I'd go for gaming discussion without 4channel
I trust the schitzos and cynical autists infinitely more than I trust the legions of sycophantic cringelords on Reddit or the 16 year olds on Discord
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>one day after a game-saving patch
>already lost nearly all of the players from the patch spike
OH KEKL!
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>>563681708
+
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Was giving Vandal a nice ass necessary...
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>>563673595
>Oh it's way fucking worse from what I'm seeing in Asia

Japan here: Australians are all friendly and use comms and the chinese I'm pretty sure have all voice chat muted by default and kill on sight even for final exfil
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>rocket start gives "le effect of cardio kick"
>that means it doesnt actually give cardio kick
>that means it doesnt do anything for vandals adrenal core
fuck you bungie assholes
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any chance theres a weekend steam sale tomorrow?
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this new queue gave me 10k credits and a bunch of gear even though i suck great idea bungo
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>>563682512
did you notice thief's feet
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>game is actually good when it stops being about loadouts
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Log on and lock in
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finna almost in bronze 2
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>>563686668
WE MAKIN OUTTA WOOD LEAGUE WITH THIS ONE
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>>563686912
the road to gold is real
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>>563686362
>game is good when you remove everyone throwing 500 grenades, bubbles, thermal snipers and water
Damn it's almost a real extraction shooter now.
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>>563687109
*WSTR
I'm on the crapper dropping a ranked.
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>>563687109
Yeah, they should be throwing POKEMON CREATURES instead
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>infil
>teammates aren't moving for a good 15 seconds
>both sponsored while i'm in blues
>they finally realize they've loaded into the match
>walk towards the first POI and I get pinged
>we get team wiped not even a minute in walking to our first POI
should probably just nuke Dire marsh from the map pool DESU
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>>563680689
>Infil with a duo
>"Hey, don't know where that is you pinged but we're going into pinwheel"
>Get into a teamfight in dorms and i go down but we win the fight
>they don't rez me
>ask and type to get a rez
>get ignored
>just leave cause whatever, faggots
>get my purple shield and gun back in the mail cause they looted me after i left.
naw, everyones still a bunch of niggers.
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>>563687960
Never stay in spawn, the remaining premades are rushing spawn points.
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>>563680689
do NOT crew fill. learn the solo raped/rapist gameplay, or ideally run premades and rape the lesser folk.
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>>563687960
This
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i hate i work so much this week. you guys seem like you are having a lot of fun with the new mode and changes
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It’s hilarious how the normoid fanbase is begging for a PVE mode, it’s extremely clear that marathon has failed. Most people don’t want to play it, they want to turn it into something else
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>>563680689
I just had the worst day in a long time because I was trying to be an ambassador for C.A.R.R.I. No one wanted to team with me in the hours I gave to the game today. I was playing on Perimeter, the most trash loot pool available so I could farm some commendations. Nope. Once when I died, I saw the POV of two thieves teaming up together, bunny hopping in unison. Fuck CARRI; I wouldn't be throwing my games if I wasn't trying to play nice. It was over 70% of people that I would run into that I could've killed outright easily, the other percentile is undecided as I would've at least fought back. Fuck CARRI.
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https://youtu.be/UVsrAfE_gHE?t=273

>sucks at the game
>BRO THAT WAS LIKE A TRAILER CLIP, BRO! THEY WE'RE LIKE "OMG WALL HAX!! OMG!!"

>I'M IN MY D-DOMAIN E-EXPANSION, BRO! I FEEL IT
>almost whiffs a double shotgun push
>only wins the fight by being a psychopath in prox chat

These streamers will C.A.R.R.I. our game
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Why is posting on this side so horrible now?
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smooth and silky 25k
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>>563689802
at timestamp 13 minutes he murders a green shield begging for carri and laughs like a maniac in the mic

No one is even trying to turn the vibe of the game around. It's all murder fuckfests.
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>>563688670
my bad for not popping a signal jammer on spawn and avoiding the first poi we spawn next to.
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>>563689509
you have to down them first and then ask them if they want a revive.
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>>563690195
>It's all murder fuckfests.
sponsored dire marsh is even worse. everyone just converges on the first sound of gunfire like a BR. nobody branches off to do contracts or nothing.
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sponsored dire marsh, another middle finger to solo runners
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>>563689940
200k easy once Season 2 drops
Let Ziegler cook
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>>563691709
I am
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alien alloy on my first run of the day
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>>563674798
What the fuck is that armor design
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>>563690257
THIS IS MARATHON!!! GO BACK TO YOUR SISSY PVE GAMES IF YOU DON'T LIKE BEING RAPED!!!
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>>563692563
It's the Arachne sponsor kit skin, you get it retroactively if you've exfiled with one before the patch.
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>>563693117
They are anon. And you're gonna get your raping grounds taken away from you by sony because of it.
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>>563692563
destroyer thong skin
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It's funny seeing them do the sponsor kit thing when that was mentioned a bunch of times here.
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>>563692245
Where
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>>563679316
I think they did reduce the loot, I’m not sure you can even get gold salvage from the anomaly on sponsored mode, got a single biolens twice
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>>563676207
>It's time.
No solo? Not playing
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>>563694889
the anomaly
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as a new player should i start marathon or destiny 2 with the humble deal?
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>>563696047
Two very different games, start Marathon because it's the better game
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I'm not joining no faggots ass queers.
I'm not gonna play modes that don't have solo
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they need to bring back duo queues. being the third wheel you just get ignored and have to keep up with the other two who are on discord or something.
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>>563696314
miserable lonely nigga
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>>563693407
>>563693483
It looks like liquid dogshit
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which shell should I play today for my solo runs?
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>>563696853
Get some taste nigga.
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so like whatever happened to the permanent bans for cheaters? are they going to do something about the blatant cheaters or are they just going to let them go unchecked until the remainder or legit players leave?
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>>563697036
uninstall wizard
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>>563697036
The one that owes me sex
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>>563697575
why are you even here
>>563697876
If I play her does that mean I then owe you sex?
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https://x.com/i/status/2044393872508248279

This right here is sadly why Marathon will never hit mass appeal, you have to actually use your brain a majority of the time. People flat out cannot do that anymore and just do the dumbest shit possible and then get mad at the game instead of themselves for being stupid
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>>563698304
The players being absolutely abysmal to interact with is ANOTHER reason it won’t ever hit mass appeal.

Someone makes a complaint or a mistake “haha guess you shouldn’t be dogshit you fucking loser maybe don’t be so stupid next time” doesn’t exactly scream “come play this game”
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>>563697081
>taste
>nigga
pick one and only one.
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>>563698401
i got called a donkey cause i had 1 hp and no meds but i'm supposed to 1v3 a 4th party in dire marsh sponsored LMAO. bunch of underaged faggots in these lobbies.
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>you will never get a kiss on the cheek from thief
What’s the point
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>>563698304
It looks like it took him 350 hours on steam to found out he's a retard
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should wearing a faction's skin give rep?
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>>563700017
yes, it should. advertisement fee
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Why aren't rooks using mercy kits on other rooks?! They literally are free!!! NO ONE WANTS TO CARRI FUCKING ANYONE!
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>>563700793
hahaha i wanna be the fly on the wall in the developer room that has to watch the statistics of mercy kits used.
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>>563700793
>>563701706
I want your loot more than you, my mercy kit’s getting dropped to make space for more loot
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>>563697509
If Destiny 2 is any indication, Bungie won’t do a thing about them. This is not good in a game where the PvP is forced.

>>563698401
This in particular. Yes players can do shit plays and blame everyone but themselves for it, but there’s also a fair amount of elitist nerds in the Marathon 2026 fandom.
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>>563703013
idk how many times after a fight and i’ve died and im about to to get knifed ive said “gg boys”, just to be told im bad or get fucked or some variation of that. id rather them just call me a nigger.
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is cryo the only thing you cant do solo or is there more content that solos are locked out of?
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>>563703870
>is there more content that solos are locked out of?
having a good time.
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>>563702546
There's more loot in the map than you can carry alone! Two rooks can carry twice as much. Then we exfil together and we get even MORE loot! How can your dumb monkey brain not realize you're leaving money on the table? I don't even have good shit, you'll just leave my kit to rot.
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>>563704024
This. I've played 3/4 of the time since launch solo and it's a miserable existence. I actually liked the fact I was leveling slower than trios but now bungie NEEDS me to FEED purple people eaters.
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>loitering in station
>about to enter that one small building when I hear cloaking sound
>NOPE.jpg
>do a 360 and moonzip away
>send drone there and enter from the other side
>invisinigger still watching the doorway i was about to enter
>pickpocket blue circuit from him
Thrilling gameplay.
They should spawn a ghost deathsquad when you sit in one spot for a minute or more, I think that would be a considerable improvement.
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>>563704361
i want everything i can carry and i dont care if your leftovers rot on tau ceti iv
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Raped game
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I hate this game so god damn much. It's the war between the haves and the have nots, and bungie keeps pulling the ladder up so only roided gold junkies prosper. Please just die so I can move on with my life.
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>>563706814
you can stop playing whenever you want, it's okay. go borrow some library books. get a copy of dazai's flowers of baffoonery, gene wolfe's shadow and claw, and murakami's norwegian wood. maybe rachel cusk's outline if you're feeling adventurous, idk, i've only read a preview but the prose felt nice. anyway read more books and you'll feel better. lift weights too, it'll help lower your stress if you do it consistently enough.

if you're the sunk cost anon from yesterday or the day before: your time is only wasted if you don't learn anything. if you spent your time playing marathon and you learned you don't like it, your time wasn't wasted. you learned you don't like extraction fps games and now know you can not play them without feeling like you're missing out on anything good. you spent your time well and can leave it behind.
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>>563703870
>>563680689
Absolutley not. Solo only started during the beta. It's not a priority and it shows. Solo isn't for the free kit test for example. And the focus is still teams. They may never bother balancing solo ever.

>>563706814
That's literally the core of extraction shooters. I'm not sure what the fuck you were expecting.
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>>563705815
>do a 360 and moonzip away
the absolute state of burger education
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>>563704361
I really don't need loot at all you filthy mendicant. I'm ok with losing MY entire kit sometimes if I get to fuck up your day. I've got plenty in my stash.
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>>563707337
I like to loot the library books for myself and exfiltrate the library
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>>563703232
Because pissing you off is the best loot of all
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>>563707360
>That's literally the core of extraction shooters. I'm not sure what the fuck you were expecting.
What, no lifers get everything worth getting in the first few weeks, they use it to leverage gaining more and more, and then the devs nerf the rarity of items so they're not as easy to abuse, only the early adopters have stacks and stacks and it only ends up hurting everyone else? That's a extraction shooter staple or something?

>>563707337
I told my friend the only way you're getting me up quit is if my ps5 dies or the game does. I'd prefer the latter because I'll replace the ps5 to keep going.
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>>563698110
What do those lips taste like
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>>563707442
Problem?
Now I really want Thief version of this, might give it a shot.
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>>563709301
Gif got eaten... Fix the site already, gookmoot
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>>563690727
>sponsored dire marsh, another middle finger to solo runners
It's the perfect mode for practicing third party situations. 1V3 there like you're not facing 3 teammates, but 3 enemy players. Really tests how fast you can change plans on the go.
Regular mode has players with more HP and faster healing items, you won't have the chance to try different tricks.
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>>563708863
Like Sriracha
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>>563709841
>Like Sriracha
I spilled some sriracha from Chicfila on my dick about an hour ago, coincidence?
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>It's another "enemy player makes no sound running up on me despite there being no sounds that could distract me, turns the corner and shotguns me in the face" moment
How does stuff like this even happen, is it like a layering or sound queuing issue? I know Apex in the early days had problems since apparently if too many sounds around the map played at once it would cancel footstep sounds
>>563708863
Do you wanna find out?
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>>563709946
The cows clearly said to EAT MORE not BEAT MORE
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>I'm not having a good time if there's no boyfriend to help me survive
The typical squads player mindset
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>marathon is too aggro to be an extraction shooter
>marathon is too aggro to be a battle royale
>marathon pve isn't threatening enough to be like helldivers
Well fuck, what is the play here? How can they salvage it
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No matter how fast these two try to run, I always manage to capture them, and make them do things
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>>563710373
Videogames are a lot more fun when I play them with a boy or girl who I like.
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>>563710521
>>marathon is too aggro to be a battle royale
Which retard said that? Have you seen Warzone, the average CoD dad moves across the map faster than the sweatiest Marathon squad.
And CoDcels can shoot while sliding, and even sprinting.
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>>563708562
>That's a extraction shooter staple or something?
It's quite common. It's what you get when you listen to feedback from your loudest, sweatiest highest spending people.

>>563708863
3d printed plastic, friend cheeseburger and biotixic disenjector despair and Die Antwood incest.
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>>563710703
Video games are more fun when lesser creatures, like girls, aren't buzzing in my ear
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>>563710521
>what is the play here?
With any luck closure
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>the game marketed as being a hardcore extraction shooter with language such as "death is the first step" added a new system which encourages players to be friendly to randoms
Lmao so much for being more hardcore than arc raiders, bet theyll add abmm too
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>It's a Vandal bargain sale
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Sponsored Dire fills is honestly kind of a shitshow, I'm not sure if I'm having "fun"
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>>563710309
>Do you wanna find out?
Yea, that's why I asked, dummy
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>>563711805
It's always a shitshow at AM hours, you don't have tired normal dudes playing after work.
The best time to play Marathon is from 7PM to 1AM, you get some life-having people to stomp on.
They may not be as terrible as noobs, but they get nervous and/or scared of smoke, and ambushes.
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>>563689505
>it’s extremely clear that marathon has failed
it succeeded at being a good, difficult game. So challenging, only the people who are good at video games can get wins.
Marathon opened a lot of people's eyes, the vast majority of modern video game consumers suck dick at video games.
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>>563711968
Kiss me and then find out then, dummy~
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>>563712406
>difficult game. So challenging,
Carrie system
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>>563712430
C'mere
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>>563712771
The system nobody uses, fuck outta here, faggot. I'm busy, kissing the cute Vandal
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what the actual fuck is the point of adding mercy kits? why would i ever revive another player who just tried to kill me, who will certainly try to backstab me at the very first chance they get? they should have made it so it treats them as being in the same crew after reviving so they can't instantly friendly fire you. what an utterly useless item and update
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Speaking of good games, gonna have to take a break from Marathon and bust some nuts
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>doing parasitim 3/5 on free kit marsh
>runs never go well
>finally get a good run where he hit every POI with good loot and wipe lobby
>didnt get green shield but whatever
>go to quarantine to inject
>swarmed by cloak UESC and all the rubberbanding gets me killed
>fucking RETARDED NIGGER DESTROYER uses the quest item before rezzing me
Fucking hate this shell and the people who play it, brainded faggot apes who should die from being raped to death by AIDS-ridden trannies. Now I gotta do this garbage quest AGAIN
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>>563713038
trying to mimic arc raiders player interacting with one another if i had to guess, too little too late for that
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>>563713038
You get them up to farm arachne rep.
Tell them you gonna get them up on prox, heal up, revive them and knive em.
Double the rep.
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>>563712430
God vandal is so hot in art and the trailers but they made her in-game model so fucking ugly and all of her skins don't make her look hot

why would they do this to the hottest character
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>>563712891
>Nobody uses the system that was added a day ago
Uh huh
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>>563713265
Arc's player interactions are fake, grouped up by a low-damage matchmaking algorithm.
Remove SBMM and every Arc lobby will be a ratted/raped hellhole.
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Honestly, the knife needs to be nerfed further in future free kit modes, shit is not fun. The pacing of matches play exactly the same
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>>563710892
Bvsed trvcel
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Welp
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>chart screenshot
Lower IQ than literal niglets
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>>563713265
i don't think bungie even know what they're doing, at this point it just seems like they're floundering and grasping at straws to retain players. there is no way the mercy kit would have any hope of working if it weren't for prox chat which they were heavily against and extremely reluctant to add. the biggest problem with the game is matchmaking that lets premades dominate fill trios and how easy it is for them to snowball beacause of it
>>563713382
i assumed this was what it would devolve into but i haven't seen it happen yet. i don't think anyone will bother doing that when the meta is just to magdump downed players right away because of self revives being so retarded, and sweats don't want to waste more time than needed when they're clearing the map and constantly rotating to find the next team to stomp
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>>563707442
>ESL thirdiebrown outs himself as newfag zoomlet
You love to see it
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>>563714082
A lot of projection from someone still playing this shit game
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>>563714210
The meltdowns and coping from current fans will be extremely entertaining as they slowly compromise on their "vision" over the next few months, especially when it won't even work and no one's willing to play anyway
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>>563714579
It's a very good game, I love searching for those, who want to exfil. When they desire to leave successfully, that's when I kill them.
It's my pleasure.
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You can run around in my lobby and scream "I have red guns and gold shit, and I won't shoot back".
I'm still not gonna shoot you, I only want those, who're trying to exfil. I don't give a fuck about anything else.
You want to exfil, I want to kill you. Nothing else matters.
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>>563712146
>Play in normal hours
>Have fun, friendly teams, fair fights, good interactions
>Play slightly outside of peak hours
>It's all chinese sweatlords going as hard as they can with full gear

Australia is hell
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>>563715082
I have red guns, gold shit, and I want to exfil, but my poor fingers are broken all I can do is move and activate exfils I sure hope nothing bad happens to me and my cryo loot
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>>563715747
You sound like you're asking for it, so you can go. I'm not interested, if you're into it.
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Is there a reason to do non rook runs? I can get the best loot in the game from throwing bodies at pinwheel, why would I put gear on the line to make number go up I can do that with freekits and standard contracts lol
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>>563716767
>Is there a reason to do non rook runs?
You get non-rook abilities.
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>>563716767
just do a free kit with any other shell so you can get to the loot first
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What a retard
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>>563716987
And recons sexy voice okay what reason is there to invest gear in getting purple shit and vip? You can extract anything with rook so who cares? VIP doesn't have a priority contract requirement, so why not throw bodies at doing bitch shit?
>>563717113
I get the same reward by camping or ambushing exfils, why take the risk lmao
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>>563717212
you lose nothing and get to use other abilities that are fun
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just found this key doing the lock down event. is this the key for fighting the compiler on cryo?
if so, i only play solos, and the key will get deleted at the end of the season, before they add solo cryo.
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>>563717212
>And recons sexy voice
I've literally never heard any shell's voice in game.
My dialogue and music volume is set to zero, since launch. All I hear is gunfire and footsteps.
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>>563717558
>i only play solos
Exceptional taste in video games.
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>>563717262
I did mention free kits in my first post there, I'm still not seeing a reason to care about gear and activities. Scavenging and camping gets the same shit as some poor loser trying to scrape together one more cryo loadout so I will continue to not give a fuck.
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Looting the map, boxes and shit, is the most boring thing ever.
I only looted players since launch.
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>>563718006
You leave your faction/shell upgrades to random chance then, genius?
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>>563718516
>You leave your faction/shell upgrades
I don't give a fuck about factions. I only take Aracne quests because I'm collecting the "without dying" mission screenshots.
I've completed kill seven without dying 19(nineteen) times. I haven't finished Nucaloric or anything like that.
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>>563717558
you need to do all 6 vaults. this is just one of many. sell it.
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>>563717189
why do assassin players think they get the privilege to talk shit and act smug when every clip of them is just shooting someone unaware while they're invisible
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>>563718832
I'm a pre-buff Recon main, did the same shit as Recon.
And I've raped all kinds of Destroyers.
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>>563719030
Nah you switched to assassin and betrayed your ancestors
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>>563719030
>I-I've killed destroyers okay...!! W-watch out!!
?
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>>563719157
I switched to Assassin to dodge UESC for free.
I never go inside of the smoke, I throw the smoke at Destroyers, they look at it, and I rape them from the other side.
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>>563719221
There's a Destroyer fangirl on here, I'm letting xim know that I'm coming for that ass.
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>>563718671
You realize your baseline stats are in the shitter and you're going to lose every single knife fight if you fight anything besides free kit shitters? You're also depriving yourself from free shields, barters and variety of other elements that'll leave you a poor and bankrupt if you ever take anything besides your freekit garbage into run.
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I ran Recon 24/7 pre-buff. I'm a lot stronger than the Typical assassin, and the new blood Recon shells.
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>>563692245
>paypig
Bleh.
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>>563719382
>You're also depriving yourself from free shields, barters and variety of other elements
The maps are full of free gear. How stupid can you be.
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>>563712406
>aim bot on controllers
>aim assist stat on guns
>bullet "magnetism"
You call that a good difficult game?
>cheats and hardware hacks are out in full force
>premade asian deathsquads
No, seriously, you call the game difficult and good?
>no ability to block in-game
>you have to record the name
>you have to play ANOTHER match
>and only then you can find their name and profile in the Recent tab
You have to be a deranged lunatic to call this game good and difficult. Its not good, its not difficult (aside from retarded designs), and its not challenging (unless you call retarded and hostile game design a challenge). Its fucking stupid-retarded cubed.
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Imagine collecting shit like leaves, rocks, metal, or BUYING weapons and shields.
Lmao
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>>563717189
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>>563720249
>not challenging (unless you call retarded and hostile game design a challenge)
Oh no, hostile design makes my pussy hurt uwu

My poor pussy hurrrttss
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>>563718487
>glitch
More like "bitch, please" lol.
>bitch be complaining about her tanked K/D
What, dont like pulling the short straw? How does it feel to be on the receiving end now, biatch?!
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>>563720305
Imagine being like 50 levels and three stages of upgrades behind everyone. You think you'll loot reflex coils for your final melee upgrades by killing retards in perimeter? Lmao
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They should've made this game based around one big map in persistent servers
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>>563720439
>You think you'll loot reflex coils for your final melee upgrades
Melee upgrades? I only shoot. I've upgraded stamina recovery and capacity like once. Who gives a fuck about melee damage, I'll just dodge your knife and shoot you
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>>563720305
>or BUYING weapons and shields.
what colour are the the weapons and shields you're buying?
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>He pulls out knife
*slides around and shoots you*
Nothing personell bby
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>>563720370
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Finished all three of the classic marathon games. Pretty good old school fps games with kinda weird movement and a few cancerous levels. Thank you for reading my blog post
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whats the CARRI event
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>>563720796
help your teamates progress their contracts and you recive currency to spend on CyAc new store
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>>563720657
When you say a game is too hostile for you, you sound like a pussy. And a faggot
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>>563690195
wtf
why did he call himself impressive over that, the guy didn't even fight back and was like over mic
>"Dude just let me-"
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>>563721112
You sound like a corporate cocksucker cumdump for fellating retarded developers. So technically, it is you who is the faggot, not me.
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>>563678204
I don't understand why they don't just do this. The difference when playing against premades vs fill crews is so obvious and insane it might as well be playing a different game. I'm already tired of being raped by obvious premades with chinese names and all wearing cryo skins on sponsored dire marsh. It's obvious these people don't care about whatever bone bungie throws to appease them like ranked or cryo, all they want to do is curbstomp fill trio retards even when there is no gear to be gained.
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Today I went on a second date with Vandal. We sat on the roof of Complex staring out at the fauna. She really liked this new pet cat that I found for her and says she will cherish it. Life on Tau Ceti is good.
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>>563722691
Did you rape her?
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>>563722783
Anon... we're tired of the raping. We're tired of being the rapee... for a moment we had a glimpse of, what if we didn't need to rape to survive?
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Recon won shout out to all the true recon players and not the fakers who tell lies. Cheers to the freakin recon
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>have several guns that only really work if you're within 10 - 20m of an enemy
>every shotgun in the game effectively oneshots at that distance, completely negating the point of using the other weapons
>this is somehow okay to most of the "good" players (who are just using shotguns in every clip you see of them)
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>>563678204
Yeah they should've done this from the start, not sure why they didn't. Maybe season 2 if they're expecting the game to get a big boost in players?
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>>563723708
>that only really work if you're within 10 - 20m of an enemy
you're supposed to mod them, you can get a bully up to 40m+ range with the right attachments. in cqc shotguns will always be the best choice but how do you fix that without making shotguns worthless?
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>>563723895
>how do you fix that without making shotguns worthless?
Revert the knife nerf.
Swap the rarities of the WSTR and Misriah.
Remove bubble shields from the game.
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>>563724053
Did they put bubble shields in this game just because they were in halo without thinking about how cancerous they would be in a game like Marathon? That's how it feels.
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>>563724848
feels like that to me too
>this was in halo
>what if we put it as a refence in marathon lol
>"But marathon is an extraction shooter"
>BUT THINK OF THE COOL LORE IMPLICATIONS LOL DURANDAL DURANDAL
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>>563724848
>>563725069
>dude this isn't your grandma's fps...getting good is about POSITIONING and MOVEMENT...if you die it's your fault for getting getting caught off guard...
>oh you overextended and got caught off guard? dw lol just press the magic button that automatically makes your position a good one and turns a potentially interesting fight into more shotgun spam
unironically how did this shit make it through two years of alphas, were all the testers too busy going OMG ITS LIKE MASTER CHIEF AND ZAVALA TOO I CLAPPED WHEN I USED IT to realize it sucked?
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>>563725826
I just dont get what the devs thought the counterplay was supposed to be
Shoot the bubble until it breaks?
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>>563725961
Remember how literally no one realized bubble shields had a weakness to volt weapons up until Bungie announced they removed their weakness to volt weapons? Which they did in the patch they promised would nerf bubbles? I have to assume they genuinely find this meta fun and want bubbles to be OP.
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>>563725961
>make it weak to volt weapons
>"players will surely have someone with a volt weapon in their crew!"
>everyone just predictably uses the same 3 weapons that everyone worked out was good in the server slam
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>>563726521
That's how it was in Arc Raiders
>why are these shitty grey guns so good?
>"Because the devs run freekits and enjoy killing other people for big loot"
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What is the best thing to buy with carri points? Is the deluxe salvage one worth it for purple fishing?
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>>563723720
bungie would never do anything that might force streamers to have to play against people on equal footing
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>>563726995
They did it with trials of osiris and kept it.
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>>563726897
rep but it's capped
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>>563726897
prety sure that one only gives blue items
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>>563726897
>What is the best thing to buy with carri points?
key templates
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>>563727779
but i don't want to sit in a vent for 25 minutes
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>>563729671
get off vent or I'll have you bent
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>>563729930
4 speed 4 mag turbo belt? AHHH UHHH
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>>563729930
BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS
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Well, there you go. There’s your team deathmatch/BR mode.

>Yeah I’m not really feelin it

Wow what a fucking surprise. This is why you never listen to your playerbase.
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>>563718487
Have any of the people who complain about controller ever even played on controller?
>AIM ASSIST
You can’t track shit when you shoot with a joystick. It’s like playing with a fighting arcade stick. There’s no “flick”, if someone breaks your camera is over because you turn like a hotdog.
Trying to pull down and compensate for recoil on controller? Good fucking luck.
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>Get hands on an outland in sponsored marsh
>Can just one shot everyone because of white/green shields
>random fills think I'm a god cause we wiped the lobby and spent the last 10 minutes dicking around
>said it was the most fun they've had playing the game
Thank you random outland for ensuring 2 more people don't leave the game...
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>>563730845
>>Yeah I’m not really feelin it
Who are you quoting? It's the most fun the game has been in weeks.
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just killed some shitter stabilising the anomaly, bloke was running three golds. unlucky
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>>563710780
>Have you seen Warzone, the average CoD dad moves across the map faster than the sweatiest Marathon squad.
>And CoDcels can shoot while sliding, and even sprinting.
Because CoD has better movement and isn't a clunky piece of shit.
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>>563733241
That’s why everyone plays MW2 on PS5 and has the highest player count. Slip and slide is aids.

I still see people in marathon trying to out ADS people around shit corners instead of flanking them or holding a tighter corner on their inside right angle.
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Sony is already replacing this shit lmao
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Did they really nerf the loot in sponsored Dire Marsh so people couldn't cheese lobbies for two weeks?
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>>563734349
isnt that just a jounralist, I would assume he's just writing an article about marathon
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Is thief the poster girl shell for runners that use a sniper, or does the 'sniper' role fit another shell better? Which shell seems like it'd use a railgun the most out of the seven we have?
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>>563735232
thief is definitely the sniper shell, vandal is the railgun shell because she's got verticality but she's not sneaky and likes blowing shit up
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Vandal cock
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Pinwheel would be a lot easier in solos if they didn't give enemy players a massive fucking notification that you called down the elevator.
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>>563737478
there is almost nothing you can do in this game that DOESN'T give enemy players a massive fucking notification
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>>563737478
You vill engage with ze pvp
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>breach pinwheel the primary way
>ALERT: NIGGA BREACHING PINWHEEL
>open key door
>BWOOOOM: NIGGA ALERT NIGGA ALERT NIGGA ALERT
>do a quest
>ORION: *locks entire compound* OH NIGGA YOU THOUGHT
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>>563718487
they are right, this game makes complete 0 iq 0 skill chuds feel like legendary warriors with all the aim assist, bullet magnetism etc.

>>563720425
>>563731173
subhuman roller chuds
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>doing some fucking around in perimeter
>teammates are both Longshot shooters
>the entire lobby apparently was also the same
did i miss a fucking memo or what? We spent the entire match locked in a sniper duel with god knows how many people
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ranked actually feels easier now because all the sweaty rape squad trios are playing sponsored dire marsh
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>>563720305
i have to loot a few sparkleaves for self-revive unlock and they may as well have asked me to kill god. i can't wait to get exfil camped as i try to leave with my 100 credit plant trimmings
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Tbh I stopped playing because the loop is literally the same rape or be raped game over and over theres very little actually happening other than smoking some nerd or getting smoked yourself
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>>563742951
its a first person raper dumbass what did you think would happen? a kart racing mode?
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>>563743052
I mean, marathonkart /would/ be pretty cool. Especially if you could get parts as extraction loot.
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>They wasted this artstyle and this lore and these characters on a fucking Extraction Shooter
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>>563744309
Corporate trend chasing claims another victim
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>>563744309
Really sucks, announcement trailer is still one of my favorite things
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>>563743052
I wonder how Bungie feels knowing that their game is now associated as the rape game.
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>>563738979
they took the bully crutch away from scrubs, so now they're doing the LONG poke to compensate, because they suck ass in real engagements.
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>>563744309
>>563744481
>>563744648
pretty shameful desu

I too was hyped at the announcement but was skeptical of what the game experience would be like. I imagined huge, detailed, easy to get lost in environments like in The Division. I had hoped for that, but we got 3 bloody normal maps with the most basic bitch enemies imaginable. All this setting drip and we fight sentient blue shoe-boxes every god damn match.
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i wish i was good at photoshop so i could depict orion as the doorbell chud
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>>563743052
I thought the quests would be better
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>>563747690
the quests are possibly the most ass portion of the game, and that stems from the issue of there being ONE enemy type, plus minor annoyances like ticks and spores.
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>>563747185
you should see people do the compiler boss if you really want to get mad
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I wake up every day and am in disbelief they launched the game in this state. It's a tech demo and they launched it. Barely anything to do in the game mid season. Failed attempt to cater to casuals and onboard new players has left the foot traffic catastrophically low. I thought they were more conservative with their money and their reputation than this, and well... Here we are.
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i wish there was an option to mute the menu music in this game it's so fucking bad
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>>563743052
>>563744010
Wait, would the kart racing still have rape?

>>563747185
I was expecting something like a Halo ripoff, maybe squad based, maybe live serviceish. More like The Division but with cooler envrionments. I was still expecting to work towards the "continuous mmo" that they had dreamed of all the way back in the mac days.

The vE part being a full step backwards from Halo was a stinger. No vertical ability. No movement unpredictabiliyt.

>>563748225
Part of me things that's why they walled it off so much so pretty much none of the people who knew what a compiller was back in the day got to play it. There are goddam phone games with more razzle dazzle on their bossfights.

>>563748303
I know their rep had been declining since the glory days, and capture by microsoft, but as the saying goes, they were at rock bottom, and then heard tapping from below.
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>>563748657
AAAA AAAA AAAA AAAA AAAA
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>>563747857
>and that stems from the issue of there being ONE enemy type
this is true but also wouldn't be as much of an issue if they put literally any effort into setpieces desu
the final mida quest is awesome because gantry hijacks a lockdown ship to display mida graffiti and then uses it broadcasts a schizo rant the entire lobby can hear, but it's basically the only quest in the game like that, everything else is just "interact with a terminal and then interact with a terminal on the other side of the map"
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

insider-gaming.com/fairgames-extraction-shooter/
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Its been a month and we cant hit 30k lol
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>>563749479
That game looks ugly, like Concord, no one will try it or loved.
Marathon looks beautiful, unique. Bad players are still begging for the ability to play it in a "safe space mode", gibs low aggression matchmaking.
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>>563734568
>>563749479
haha go fuck yourself
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>>563749479
So this game and marathon will now cannibalize each other.
Good job sony, you fucking retards.
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>>563749479
What the fuck is wrong with sony?????
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>>563734568
>>563750181
how was I supposed to know Sony already gave up on Marathon
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>traxus sponsored kit dayy
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>>563748303
>I wake up every day and am in disbelief they launched the game in this state.
The only problem is, there's only 3 standard maps. Three maps for two seasons is retarded.
Fuck the casuals in the ass, I'm glad there's at least one AAA shooter with no SBMM, a real survival game.
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>>563750284
that seemed pretty fucking obvious if you're payed attention to sony in the slightest since the game released. They've been running ads for arc raiders on ps5 constantly
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>>563749479
So I guess Marathon's done
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>>563749479
>that aesthetic
>extraction sharter
>getting INTO it as in no experience WITH
I shan't
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>>563744309
I don't think these "characters" could have worked for anything else. Except for Durandal, obviously, but he is barely here. While I do think they should make / should have made a remake of Marathon 1 in this style, everything in Marathon is so perfectly designed for its purpose that I can't wish for it to be used elsewhere, because that just wouldn't work. I just want the said purpose to be further refined so that I can enjoy it better and for longer.
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>>563750338
find a tool cart to loot for a scope or barrel immediately and it's not half bad.
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>>563750647
I want the spiky haired girl to owe me sex in a game that doesn't suck is all
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>>563748861
>this is true but also wouldn't be as much of an issue if they put literally any effort into setpieces desu
Yes, exactly. Even The Division could make a set piece fight feel exciting from time to time.
the also have this entire fucking map, full of computers and greeble stations, and you still have to funnel EVERY SINGLE QUEST in diremarsh through Bio Research, and use a single fucking synthesizer. Who the fuck though that wouldn't get old and or be exploitable by campers? Everyone goes to the exact same locations every map. There's no searching, guessing, hoping that you find what you're looking for.
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>>563750647
>"characters" could have worked for anything else
What does this even mean?
Extraction shooters are a niche genre and character classes are a concept as old as dirt
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Playing Marathon the legit way, it doesn't need any manipulation to "rinse off an algorithm."
For Arc, I set up a Cronus script, so the Cronus device makes my character run around and die endlessly, while I sleep. When I wake up, my "Aggression Level" is rinsed off. I'm back in PvE lobbies and killing those, who wanna extract.
I will not let a matchmaking system "put me" in certain lobbies. I will do as I wish, no compromise.
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>>563751036
Think of where character classes are used. Hero shooters? Even more oversaturated than extraction shooters.
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They could've made Sci-Fi Nightrein
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>>563748657
It’s beyond shit yeah, from the same minds that thought anyone would want to stare at a moth chewing shit cables
But you can disable the menu music it’s right there in sound settings
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>>563751464
PvE shitters had to suck my dick instead
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>>563749479
Firstly, they never cancelled Fairgames even after all this time? They still worked on it even when multiple playtests reported that the game was "not fun"? Did they just keep the studio open because they got free grants from the Canadian government?
And secondly, why would you knowingly release two back to back extraction shooters? Because Marathon was known to be one ever since its original reveal in 2023, did Sony not give them the heads up to just make a Payday clone?
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>Warzone and CoD multiplayer
SBMM, reverse boosting it by making my profile die over and over, using a script, while i sleep.
>Arc
ABMM, reverse boosting it, with a script, die die die, while I sleep.
>Marathon
Doesn't need any boosting, it's real, natural.
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>>563717558
Build up a full set of cryo keys, then bring them somewhere and die, just be a real confusing gift box.
As for your question, no Compiler is Vault 7, but you need to have completed 1-6 to enter 7.
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The fact that removing the pvp would render the game a boring slog is very telling. They may as well have made it a hero shooter or a br.
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Imagine letting a matchmaking algorithm put you in bad boy lobbies.
No, no, no, I'm always boosting my way out of that shit.
Embark niglets can suck my dick, CoD can suck my balls, and Sony can get fucked too.
>But Marathon's playercount
I've enjoyed the game already, not my problem what happens next.
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>>563751710
>They still worked on it even when multiple playtests reported that the game was "not fun"?
didn't Marathon had a playtest where they invited Tarkov people, and they basically all said the game sucked?
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I'm gonna just get to level 100 and get all the cheevos and then wait for the Season 2 stuff. I'm hoping they pivot to more solo support because I really do not care for trios and I'm not subjecting myself to the mongoloids in fills anymore.
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>>563751710
>>563752267
Game Devs don't give a shit about playtester's opinions, they just wanna know if shit works
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>>563752267
The story either went something like that, or they invited a bunch of Tarkov fans to playtest the game to relatively positive feedback. But when a Bungie employee asked something along the lines of
>So, how many of you would buy the game?
or
>So, how many of you would drop Tarkov for this?
not a single Tarkov fan raised their hand. And why would they, Tarkov fans love it because its more of a grounded milisim.
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How do I get rare materials as solo? Just scan with Thief for purple containers? It feels like I might find one in Pinwheel if I'm lucky, when a node upgrade requires like 10. I heard from someone that the material drop rate changes with level somehow (and if it does, then it has to be based on some kind of level-based matchmaking that determines the loot in containers?). Feels a bit time-gatey. How do I find more keys for locked rooms? Anything else I'm missing?
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>>563754238
>How do I get rare materials as solo?
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>>563750648
Steady Barrel+Stabilizing Mag+Hi Zoom Optic it becomes a pretty decent dmr
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>>563754238
To my knowledge the only thing that scales with levels is the rewards from the anomaly extraction event on Dire Marsh - above level 75 it gives salvage (purple/gold). Which is also kind of the reliable way to get rare materials as a solo. Doesn't always spawn, and you won't always win, but it's within your control and fairly reliable that you'll get something from it, usually including kits from other people contesting it.
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>>563755029
>freekitting mida quest to destroy lab shit in AI uplink
>take it slow, by the time I finish I see the anomaly moving towards uplink
>sit in a weird partially obscured corner in the tunnel
>knife the guy in the back and take a purple kit with 2 materialist guns
Thanks for the hazard capsule, idk what that dude was doing running around with that kit and not checking corners
It sadly doesn’t always end in AI uplink but if you can see where the anomaly player is moving towards it’s usually pretty easy to jump them
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>>563755736
Yeah there's multiple times where it's good to jump people - at its spawn since they have to pull out a data pad (but this is a common place for others to do so as well - Rat assassins are real fuckin common)
The most ideal being at the stabilizing machine, but that isn't marked on the map and isn't always at the same spot, so there's some luck involved there - I'm not sure if the machine is there before the anomaly event spawns even. It's ideal because people with the anomaly are usually worried about people chasing them at that point rather than ambushing since it's unmarked for everyone else.
And of course, the traditional option of at exfil. This is kind of where I've seen the most fighting if it hasn't been a 'most everyone is dead 5 minutes in' kind of game.
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>>563673440
I've been developing this concept of teaming up feature in BRs for years. If both people click team up on each other, you become a squad with friendly fire disabled etc.

If one player chooses to disband a team, it creates 10-20 sec countdown for both players, and maybe slows the disbander for a moment to let the other guy create distance and prevent the disbander from following him (the slow down is in the initial state of countdown, not near the end of it to also prevent the non-disbander from using it it as a combat advantage against him. Maybe the disbander would also get a temporary stealth or longer friendly fire protection compared to the disbandee, or any other mechanic that pushes the teams to actually disband and not into pre-shooting each other at the moment the timer reaches 0.

However, safe teaming up would also basically turn solo into mandatory duo in most cases since it's just too advantageous and I don't exactly want that in solo. The only reason to not team up is if you want that player's loot, but the inventory capacity in Marathon is so low that it's not that beneficial. The biggest reason for killing in Marathon is to not get killed, and in that case, teaming up is the most effective way to neutralize that threat.
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I feel like everyone is running purples now, even on perimiter. maybe cuz im high level
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>still eating shit in the poorfag lobby because it's Sekiguchi day
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>>563752015
>The fact that removing the pvp would render the game a boring slog is very telling.
Every multiplayer game without PvP is boring, except Call of Duty Zombie Mode and Minecraft.
>but Helldivers is popular
Popular among who, people, who don't like PvP? Fuck those people.
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>>563756932
perimeter is the only fun map for pvp so there is some serious heat being brought there. I'm running into purples on perimeter at only level 40
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>>563757594
Please get a trip already.
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What makes dire marsh so fucking bad? It's one of the worst maps ever designed.
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>>563758473
Spawns are fun to rush, good map
>>563757993
Nah, that's gay
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>>563756496
>However, safe teaming up would also basically turn solo into mandatory duo in most cases since it's just too advantageous and I don't exactly want that in solo
Honestly I think that would be a tremendously interesting experience as one of those experimental queues, where the meta of spawn rushing to kill is instead spawn rushing to get into an ad-hoc group as fast as possible. I think this would need to be limited to only one alliance though, and only with solos. So trios could adopt a rook, and solos could do ad-hoc duos, 3v4 and 1v2 are not at all unwinnable exchanges so I don't think you'd need to unbalance too much, especially if you put a downside to teaming up like that that it exposes team chat to prox chat channels - so you have a numbers advantage but can't communicate without opening up your position.
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As long as friendly fire is on, teaming in solos isn't a problem. I'll just force them to shoot each other, using equipment and movement. Smoke, slide, shoot, jump out, nade, smoke again. They'll hit each other eventually.
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>>563758615
>Nah, that's gay
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>>563757594
>your entire post
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>>563760358
The only opinion that matter. Friend to none, prey to none, predator to all.
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>>563751821
All of those games are shit and Marathon is the antithesis of anything that is real and natural. It's trying to be a tarkov killer but failing to recognize why tarkov is popular (it was never the gameplay, it was gun autism and stalker nostalgia). It's trying to ape a genre that sunsetted 5 years ago by simply relying on brand recognition and marketing instead of merit or innovation. It's trying to be a "style" that was stolen by corporate from unpopular culture in the first place, via plagiarizing starving nobodies painting scribbles that make staunch Bauhaus enthusiasts wince and recoil in disgust with how plain and safe and nondescript they are.

I legitimately could not, in any conceivable way, find a better example of a fake game than Marathon is, even if I tried. Unless you count actual fake adverts of games that don't exist at all and are just joke parodies. Except this isn't a parody. It's bungie's new design staff, not the old guard, but the new guard, being completely unable to make a game worth playing.
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First time in the new game mode. I like it.
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>>563762067
>It's trying to be a tarkov killer but failing to recognize why tarkov is popular
Never played, or watch Tarkov(i don't even watch streams, I'm not gay). I liked Marathon because I loved Blackout 2018(solo battle royale with almost-hero abilities).
> It's trying to be a "style" that was stolen by corporate from unpopular culture
Fuck someone's culture, I really don't care.
>ind a better example of a fake game than Marathon is
Arc Raiders, the matchmaking creates fake-friendly lobbies. Aggressive players are segregated like niglets, remove the matchmaking algorithm, and Arc will lose 80% of players, because gamer dads will get raped.
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SBMM or ABMM/EOMM = fake game, fake lobbies.

No SBMM or algorithm, that calculates score ratio(or aggression) = real, unfiltered game. Marathon is very good, it's clean. Unmanipulated.
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>>563762535
2 faction level ups on top of this.
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No way this skin wasn't meant to be paywalled. Also, thighs.
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This is 2018's Marathon.
No SBMM, you can pick up super powers. Fly with a grapple hook, or fully(!) blind people with a 10 second flash(9-Bang grenade).
Lose challenge progress if you die(can't unlock skins).
The TTK was long though, like at least 500 or 600 milliseconds.
Marathon - you sneeze at a blue shield, he falls
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>>563762535
Glad you're having fun, but get more kills. What are we, recruits?
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>>563670468
>ruins your horror game

I hate glowies so fucking much; worst pvp decision in the entire game
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>>563764018
If you didn't hate it, I wouldn't use it. I do it for you.
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>>563764154
imagine being obsessed enough to make this site
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>>563764102
not assassin, it's the GLOWING FUCKING AURA that I vehemently loathe
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>>563764626
What's wrong with it?
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>>563764154
grim
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>>563762067
>It's trying to be a "style" that was stolen by corporate from unpopular culture in the first place, via plagiarizing starving nobodies painting scribbles that make staunch Bauhaus enthusiasts wince and recoil in disgust with how plain and safe and nondescript they are.
i winced and recoiled in disgust reading this sentence bro jesus christ get an editor if you're going to be that pretentious
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>>563762067
This is one of the best examples I've found of
>big words mean I'm smart
analysis. Maybe consider writing something coherent instead of trying to sound intelligent.
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>>563765113
>i winced and recoiled in disgust
What shell do you play, you sound so soft. I'm salivating to catch you off guard in Marathon and pin you against a wall.
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RIP Marathon
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>>563764154
What does Crimson Desert have to do with anything
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>>563764626
>imagine being BASED enough to make this site
I can't, based gigachad
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>>563766381
It's GOTY 2026
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Marathon players, who get emotional, are so delicious. I love catching them and eating them up.
Yeeeeeaahhhh
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>>563766346
>Still, Playstation is fully backing this project
Why is Sony so fucking stupid? Like jesus christ. THIS is the hill you die on?
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>>563762067
dis nigga never played wipeout
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Cryo Archive is so good that I don't even feel bad about dying.
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>>563764018
The oblivion enchantment aura is incredibly jarring and makes darkness stupidly pointless in this game
>>563764669

>I saw an Assassin runner the other day. Dreadful creature.
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>>563766556
>Why is Sony so fucking stupid?
They're not, development money is already spent, so they're releasing multiplayer slop, to see if it lives.
Single player games are still the focus, and aren't coming to PC anymore.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-04/sony-pulls-back-from-playstation-games-on-pc

No Yotei, Wolverine, Spider-Man 3, X-Men, Naughty Dog's Intergalactic, or Saros(Returnal 2) on PC.
God of War: Egypt is fully exclusive too.
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>>563767742
>They're not
Stopped reading there
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>>563670468
is the game still fun crew fill only?
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>>563764669
>the GLOWING FUCKING AURA that I vehemently loathe
>>563767295
>The oblivion enchantment aura is incredibly jarring
I think the glow doesn't always happen. Could've sworn I got camped on, and he didn't glow.
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>>563767976
Yes. You won't be beating the Compiler, though.
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Am I delusional and retarded, or did he not glow. Hmmm
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What's better, destroyer or assassin?
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Wtf are flechette seekers? At first I thought they meant some kind of visual thing of healing projectiles that come to you and heal you. Then I thought about the wording "when damaging enemies" which indicated that they are maybe some kind of stationary drones that magically heal you when you damage enemies. Then I saw an enemy use a flechette grenade on me and I saw that the seekers are homing missiles that deal life stealing damage when the seekers damage an enemy.

What about the flechette seeker weapon mod? Spawns flechette seekers where? Near the enemy or near me? They only spawn with precision eliminations so they will home to other enemies, deal damage which heal me?
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>>563766443
>astroturfed 33
>astroturfed desert
What the fuck has been happening in the gaming space?
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>cryo fill as 114 Recon
>match with a level 52 and a level 237
>alright.jpg
>level 52 has no mic
>level 237 has open mic and only speaks to himself
>sometimes 237 yells one of two things
>"I AM THE SPACE ADMIRAL."
>"RUN I MADE THIS MAP JUST FOLLOW ME FASTER"
>237, I kid you not, has the entire map memorized
>we avoid almost every team
>we win the fights that we do get into
>all because 237 knows every vent, ladder, and weird angle
>open six vaults together in as many runs
>level 52 types 'thank you, I've never exfil'd or opened a vault before'
>level 237: 'SHUT UP I JUST LOVE MAPS BRO STOP TYPING FOLLOW ME RUN'

Most successful Cryo day I've ever had. There are some real weird characters who play this game. He was either a bored Bungie dev or some hyper autist.
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>>563768718
Yes, I don't like this aspect of the game. Chip mods and flechettes just feel like magic.
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>>563769003
Based
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Do you think Sony is mad at Bungie for this? Why else would they say "fuck it, lets release a f2p extraction shooter"
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How does shotgun aim assist angle work? All bullets that would miss by that angle will hit instead? The weapon says spread angle 4 degrees and aim assist 5.3 degrees, so that should mean that if I aim at the enemy with less than half of the character in the reticle, the other half will get aim assisted to him. Is that really true? Doesn't sound right. Is the reticle even 4 degrees, it looks way larger considering my fov is 105 (and is that vertical or horizontal)
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>>563764018
I hate that shit with passion. Why... why the fuck would you do that shit in the game. "Hardcore" "PvP" my ass.
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>SHUT UP I JUST LOVE MAPS BRO
Wow he's literally me.
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>>563757519
>he doesnt understand that volt thrower is literally the BEST freekit gun after retaliator
retard alert
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>>563767742
>No Yotei, Wolverine, Spider-Man 3, X-Men, Naughty Dog's Intergalactic, or Saros(Returnal 2) on PC. God of War: Egypt is fully exclusive too.
And i never gave, nor currently give, nor will give, a single flying fuck about those because AFAIC they are all shit. Sony can suck my asshole for all i care.
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>>563764018
Enemy did not glow
>>563767295
>>563768387
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>>563770738
Without this, every light / white colored skin in the game would be pay to lose.
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>spawn airfield in the furthest from anything corner
>thief spawns right next to me
>knock him with my gold zeus
>he self revives and then wstrs me
get cancer bungie fuck this spawn fuck this game fuck the dumb bot that punched me while I was aiming at him fuck it all NIGGGGGERRRRSSSSSS
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Why are they so jewish with finding shields and backpacks in raids? I CAN'T FUCKING SUSTAIN GREEN SHIELDS!!!
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>>563771173
As it should be. Wanna do stealth? Dress for the occasion.
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>>563771032
>unshielded retaliator
>good
I'm not sure if you are trolling or not because volt thrower is one of the best weapons after shotguns.
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>>563771112
>>563764018
yeah, I have no idea what determines the glow
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Enemy not glowing. Higher resolution. I'm not crazy, or retarded, I was right.
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Pretty sure the enemy glow is if you're basically right on top of them, within like 5m. I've only ever seen it in that range, basically when going for knife kills.
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holy fuck this game is actual unplayable dogshit why does it keep putting me on a server on the other side of the planet in fucking australia or something i can't run i can't jump i can't climb up a fucking ladder because i keep rubberbanding and spazzing out all over the place. i'm losing easy fights because i'm beaming people in the face for 0 damage
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>>563772087
he is glowing red before shooting you, meds, anon...
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>>563751125
>Cronus script
You are such a nigger lmao
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>>563749479
Bungie wanted to make Marathon an extraction shooter.
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>>563772730
>>Cronus script
>You are such a nigger lmao
Everyone does that for reverse boosting. Unless they're a good boy, and bend over for SBMM, or ABMM, or EOMM.

https://51sector.com/products/pc-reverse-boost-script-lower-sbmm

https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/call-of-duty-black-ops-6-a/674235-simple-afk-reverse-boosting-bot.html
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>>563771409
if you can kill the warden at... overflow? i can't remember. bottom left corner of perimeter map. you will get a nice backpack but its a dangerous enemy, best to shoot it from long range which is hard with most cheap weapons
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>>563771409
Bro since the mid-season update I find green shields as a free kit almost 7/10 times. They increased their drop rate. Look at chest height containers.
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>>563773474
>you're black
>all criminals are
???
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>Arc's matchmaking lowers my aggression level
>CoD's matchmaking lowers my score rank
All while I sleep, and my account just runs around dying, on a script.
I wake up and rape all the delicious normalfag lobbies.
>>563773474
Then, I reverse boost again. You think SBMM or ABMM is gonna keep ME out?
BBWWAHAHAHhahahHAHAHH aahaahhaha euueeheheheh.
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>>563771441
>he doesnt understand why a 40 bullet full auto with fast projectiles is better than a volt thrower which has a max effective range of like 10m
ok retard
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If it's not too late for Marathon to get SBMM, I'm all in.
I'll get into the easiest lobbies imaginable, and rip them apart.
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>>563771041
Steam users love them, just like Marathon. And I think that's cool, I'll enjoy reminding them that Wolverine and new SM won't be ported. Heheeeheheh
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there needs to be flying uesc bots to fuck with snipers and their sniper nests. that’s all that needs to be done to balance snipers
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is it too late to get this game?
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yeah what's the point of anything when shotgun ttk is instant. Also, why bother moving when you can "tactically" sit in a corner for the rest of the game with no downsides.
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>>563777824
yea it's out of stock
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>Cryofill
>meet a good team and exfil succesfully
>get a key and decide to stick together
>decide to stop being a little bitch and use my yellow gear
>actually winning team fights
god damn this felt good.
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>>563772087
They glow when in proximity. Meaning you have to be close. All runners glow when in proximity.
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>>563767105
>shotguns
>standing near a vent
lol this has been my experience. my last match i had a duel with 2 guys in a vent with my wstr and they kept missing cause i kept side stepping in time. one dude had TWO misraih's on him. LOL
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>>563773474
>>563751125
Ultra-nigger. Seriously, get some fucking help.
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>>563777292
I dont care what they like anon, good for them. I care about what i like. And so far only one game tickled that fancy and scratched the itch (its not Marathon). I fucking wish i could just refund this stupid game, but i have 191 hours in it... so unless they finally fuck it all up and go f2p, i aint got a snowball's chance in hell.
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Anyone else not happy with their kills? Especially in solo? I find that most of my kills are happening by fucking happenstance. Like I just HAPPENED to be at the top of the hauler ladder as this guy sprints in and climbs it at light speed and I surprise / murder him as he climbs up. Shit like that almost pisses me off because there is nothing THERMODYNAMIC about kills like that. Its all "I just happened to not be moving as you were moving and I got the jump on you."
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>>563772087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cQcUAqeCUI
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>>563770436
They’re bound to be disappointed in Marathon not setting the world on fire like Halo and vanilla D1-2 did, but I don’t think Fairgame$ is going to do well either. That just seems like them cutting their losses because they realized the live service model is starting to collapse in on itself.
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>>563780374
You might want to try something like ape sex if you wanna style on your opponents with slides and shit. Hell, you might wanna play fort nite if flossing and hitting the griddy is your thing
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>>563768940
How is Crimson Desert astroturfed? Every (((video game journalist))) hated it.
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>>563780374
I'm just not even happy with my purchase of Marathon, the game isn't fun or well-designed.
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>>563782312
NTA but the new argument I'm seeing is
>that people posting on 4chan and twitter are more powerful than journalists right now and there should be a law against it because games like Crimson Desert and Marathon are getting treated completely opposite of how they should be because of shitposting

which is hilarious
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>>563782312
>game nobody talks about or gives a shit about is suddenly the biggest game of the year because... because it just is, okay?
>so what if there's literally no fandom or discourse around the game? It's the biggest game of the year! Cause we said it is!
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>>563777824
Kind of
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>>563783353
You sound like one of those retards that only play FOTM and never pay attention to upcoming games. Crimson Desert was shown at just about every big gaming event for over 4 years now, and it always looked great. It's not like Pearl Abyss is some unknown no-name developer, BDO is one of the biggest MMOs out there and it's currently mogging Marathon after being out for over 10 years.
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>>563780374
Agree. TTK should be higher in solo
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What's the actual logic for making purple shields die to three knife hits now? it just makes the rich richer, complete bullshit
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Anyone else find it weird that players need some sort of carrot on a stick to play a game these days? I remember trying to get my friend to play a true roguelike a long time ago and he basically said "Where are the achievements?"
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>>563784006
>Bungie
>Logic
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>>563784112
Yeah it's weird they designed Marathon to reset the carrot on a stick every 3 months.
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>>563784006
a genuine DSP-tier streamer retard posted a clip where his squad was too busy sniping to notice an assassin just walking up behind them and knifing them all so now knives get to be useless
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>>563784241
https://x.com/ottrTweets/status/2044393872508248279
the streamer in question btw
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>>563783353
Anon marathon is currently competing with RS3 in terms of player numbers. You know, the dead retail version of runescape that just about killed the studio and game before they implemented osrs.
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>>563784512
He had a blast
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>>563783638
>no fandom
>no discourse
>no one posting dialogue or cutscenes on social media
>"BUT ITS THE BIGGEST GAME OF THE YEAR"
I measure the "biggest game of the year" by a game's presence in the culture and Crimson Desert has less presence than fucking Pokopia
I see more talk about Elden Ring all these years later than I have ever seen about Crimson Desert
NOBODY gives a shit about this game, yet there are people dedicated to claiming it is the biggest bestest game of the year, despite that objectively not being true
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>>563766346
>testers struggled with the "fun factor"
this is the funniest turn of phrase I've heard in this industry in a while
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>>563784713
You're just in gay faggot circles and only play slop.
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>>563784660
At least that piece of shit is MTX’d to hell so they’re squeezing a good bit of money out of those 10k players, can’t say the same for marathon lmao
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Got a blue sponsored Aracne kit to exfil with.
Did it, no Aracne skin.
Was I supposed to use a grey free one?
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>>563784713
>Crimson Desert has less presence than fucking Pokopia
Crimson Desert sold better than Pokopia, retard.
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>>563779990
>And so far only one game tickled that fancy and scratched the itch (its not Marathon).
What games is it? Besides my d tickling you from a mile away.
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>>563785292
i think so, or a character you haven't got it with yet
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>>563772385
>why does it keep putting me on a server on the other side of the planet in fucking australia or something
> guys, player counts doesn't matter
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3rd guy couldn't make last exfil in time, but we cleared two teams and did the lockdowns on sponsored dire.
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>>563785292
you can use paid kits. i had to do it with with my 2nd shell. it's retroactive, so if you've exfilled with arachne before you should already have it.
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>mid-season update barely moved the player-count needle at all
>only map update we're getting is dark dire marsh in a month and a half
grim
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I played two nights in a row and just don't have it in me, one of you needs to play an extra 4 hours tonight to make up for me
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>>563785990
I actually feel bad for people playing games outside of the USA. I have never in my life had a lag issue ever as a result of region.
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>>563785414
>no presence on social media
>no one discussing the story
>no one thirsting over the characters
>"BUT THIS GAME SOLD SO WELL ITS SO RELEVANT"
Thank you for proving my point
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>>563786274
>it's retroactive
On day one of the patch I logged on and saw I had only completed it with Destroyer. Truth be told, I haven't seen an Arachne Kit for weeks.
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>>563786701
>grim
You don't know the half of it. That will bottle neck the entire mcsweats legion to run train on the freshest content, cockblocking out the competition that isn't rocking moldy gold shields with one durability left.
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Extracted with kit 2 times, no skin. Bungie, I hope you get buttfucked by a donkey
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Recon is still shit. The scan is still very visible and the footsteps and ult noise are at least as valuable for the enemy as for the user. At most it's a "force a fight" button while the enemy can use their skills for actual advantage. Also when I used it, I saw an enemy just run away from the tracking drone and the explosion missed. But maybe it's okay in tight corridors
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How is using triage in solos? pointless or okay?
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>>563787386
it's not that great desu. i'm not a fan of LMGs. but i've definitely gotten skins from a 2.5k sponsored kit before. give that a go.
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>>563788329
He's ok esp if you're using freekits
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>>563785429
You could've had a genuine answer, were it not for your asinine statement.
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>>563787597
>console
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>very clearly hear someone approaching from the left
>direction is clear, it's in my left headphone etc
>Get attached from the right

Are my setting BS or is bungie's audio design crap?
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>>563789648
No, it's good. For example, when you walk near a wall, you can hear your own footsteps bouncing off it back to you, and in closed environments, the sounds will echo in almost all directions, it's realistic.
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>hey motherfucker run all over perimeter
>okay no prob
>spawn at overflow, but have to go to south relay first
>someone else is doing the quest and cleared it out, I arrived minutes late, good for me
>go back to overflow
>scan the fuckers, place cleared out of course
>quest doesn't progress
okay well fuck you
exfil'd with good loot anyways
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>>563791001
oh they didn't intend me to do it all in a single run
well fuck you game I could have if you let me
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shoutout to the assassin who did not finish me in perimeter just now
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>>563791306
no problem bro that was probably me kek
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300 HOURS of MARATHON Thoughts/Review:

Only 2% of players have hit Level 100 in Marathon.

I think Steam Charts do reflect player retention to an extent but the game has a good foundation with a fun replayable endgame activity that 99% of players haven't even been able to experience yet.

So long as Bungie keeps improving the new player experience (so people eventually reach Level 100+ and actually experience full endgame loadouts/gameplay) and keeps on dropping more content like Cryo Archive the game will be fine in the long run.

It's not a perfect game by any means but I can think of more positives than negatives.

Future features that I'd like to see:
- Social Hub (Tower)
- Practice Range
- Arena/Warm Up Deathmatch game mode

After 300 hours, the gameplay loop is starting to get a little repetitive as I only hop online to check barters and do Cryo runs every weekend. I'm sure with the addition of more Marathon ship maps and more variety in endgame content it will improve.

Ranked is an unenjoyable experience 90% of the time. When it is a lobby of legit players it can be fun on certain maps, but there is no incentive to play it besides the cosmetics. Higher loot drops at higher ranks and in-game leaderboards would be nice. But overall, just remove Ranked as a whole and release a PvE game mode if the cheating situation doesn't improve in my opinion. The real highlight of the game is Cryo Archive to me.

I'm looking forward to the wipe in Season 2 and the new Runner coming with it.
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>>563791367
:)
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>>563787267
What is there to talk about with Pokopia online?
>Yo dude I just built the most coziest charmander house, wow so epic
You're fucking retarded and only play slop, clearly.
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Lol saw the clips of a bunch of wintrading shit in Ranked people walking around in a big coordinated stack, lotta streamers what an absolute fucking joke. Who'da thought this would be flawed when you can basically play in a lowbie lobby higher than you should be.
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>Try Marathon for the first time again since launch
>Everyone is making fun of me for not being gay
What the fuck happened?
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>>563757519
>he didn't fill his vault with free kits before the timer ticked over

the folly of man
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>>563791395
My biggest problem with the end game is that it's way too easy to have wasted time doing other shit, and not utilizing time better to mindlessly role dice for keys and the like. You basically have no progression that's charted out and it sort of a waiting RNG roulette game which I really don't see many people who are even entertaining trying to do Cryo more thorough would even realistically do. I genuinely think if more people were plugged in they would absolutely fucking hate the game even more if they knew what habitually running Cryo is like. Nothing really preps you for how things go with Cryo and I think there is an incredibly slanted view with how things realistically can go if you're being min/max efficient compared to a streamer who can pull from a massive amount of people to do runs, better their odds of somebody always having keys with stuff etc. I'm not saying that the task for the actual end game is bad but I don't think it was very well thought out, almost in the same way I think some of the later salvage requirements for absolute garbage upgrades don't make any sense, see NuCal one that just randomly gives you OS and Mechanic Kits for doing NuCal quests, or the one that gives you patch kits, like it's garbage that calls for rarer shit.

I'm not sure what the right answers are but it just feels a bit crappy when you could put in some serious numbers and not really have much to show for or much of a clear motivation you can tangibly feel out reliably. I get that's sort of the point, it's supposed to be extreme high stakes shit, and once you do the vaults and get to compiler, you basically won, but it's like the getting there, it's not so easy or straight forward. I had to fight off a lot of burn out just getting down a few vault rooms, but admittedly I properly did Cryo once I did all the factions quests. Mileage may vary
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>>563784727
I feel like so much has already been tried in the past 10-15 years that it is very easy for a gimmick to wear thin. Consumers know too much
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>Fight off camping faggots with shit guns
>Extract with Aracne kit 4 times
>No skin
Yea, dead game, rape Bungie
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>>563782475
It makes me think of that Frostbolt ramble tweet to his fellow content morons, please you guys stop showing the flawed game mode with cheaters, you're giving people the bad impression and turning away possible new people.
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>>563792542
you unlocked them in the codex, idiot
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Is it still hell to pair up with randoms if I just want to chill and play a casual game?
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>>563791395
>I only hop online to check barters
you get fomo'd into launching the game every day lol it's only a matter of time until you unlock the battle pass and think you made that decision all on your own
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Ok I changed my mind, freekit marsh is GOATED when everyone has volt thrower and not the retarded machinegun. More active, less holding angles and trying to teamfire. Just knifed a squad of three destroyers and you know they aren't gonna do freekits anymore LMAOOOOOO shield bitches need their crutches
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>>563770436
I'm starting to think the industry rumors that we had actual receipts on in the marketing, and things that were plausible internet chatter could be true, Bungie basically was trying to walk around swinging dick saying "we made Halo, fuck you, it'll work" and it's making them look like retards. Story goes with the whole "Bungie guys got laughed out of a meeting" was when there was an alleged pitch for a Destiny series and they rode the "we made Halo, trust, remember when Peter Jackson was gonna make a Halo movie, we can do this", and then the Halo tv show was molten diarrhea and nobody could take them serious. Especially when costs came in equation
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>>563792734
>you unlocked them in the codex, idiot
I have to click the codex thing in the menu?
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>>563770436
100%. These are the global top sellers and we still don't have any official sales figure, just "400k discord users".
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Shourd thinks Marathon will eventually be bigger than fortnite

"Oh..ohhhhhw~ my tummy..uhhhhhghh my tummy hurts so bad oughhhhh~~~... ouww"
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>>563784006
Every balance change made is literally that
>make bubbles and self rez purple rarity and more expensive in store
>doesnt matter to cryo archive regulars because they find 5 of them every pinwheel run and have 800k minimum credits when the average player never sees above 100k at most
Notice how everyone is enjoying free kit marsh except for the players who want to feel good by killing green shields with no effort.
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>>563793115
>retarded old man says retarded thing
wow
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guys, vandal is fun.
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>>563782475
CD is typical "you can do anything" slop like BotW, Skyrim, Ubishit, etc. Only reason people pretend they like it here is because it's gookware so it's owning the western game industry by supporting Kslop. Same people praising it will be buying Skyrim 2 day 1.

Marathon is dogshit and always was gonna be, sony is paying the journalists a lot but money is run out and bungie will die by 2028
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>>563793292
They should have spent the $300M for Marathon on development for Vandal and Thief fuck toys. It would have actually been profitable.
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>>563793438
>Redditspacing
>Too poor for Crimson Desert (GOTY 2026)
Grim, Ramesh.
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>>563787597
It has to be the free kit you retard
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>>563793635
>It has to be the free kit you retard
doesn't have to be free, just a sponsored kit
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>>563793292
Vandal cock down my throat NOW
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>>563793503
I pirated CD because I don't give koreans money for anything besides soju and kbbq
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>>563793784
Just download Grindr
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How many Magacocks would it take to fix Marathon?
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I was once a shitter...but have now become a shitee
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is cryo supposed to always spawn me in the same place and make me shoot uesc for 10 minutes before running into a squad of players who wstr me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvwuEzNKUfQ

oh, so this is how you 1 v 3
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Recon looks much better than Assassin, thanks codex bro. >>563792734
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I was a Recon main pre-buff, guess it's time to go back with the new skin
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Recon is friend to none, prey to none, predator to all

BWWWAHAHAAHAHA HAHAHAHAH HHEHEHEIEUIE
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>>563795948
>predator to all
diddyblud epstein ahh shell
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>>563795221
>>563795410
lol, well done
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>>563789648
Well, false alarm. I am retarded after all.
Had my headphone on the wrong way.
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>>563795221
what do you even do on this game
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>>563795783
you already abandoned her just stay with ASSASSin
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>>563796221
>>predator to all
>diddyblud epstein ahh shell
The spiderbot lubes them up. You know the best way to attack as Recon
>shoot from medium range
>doesn't matter cracked or not
>throw spiderbot, to make it less comfortable to heal and move
>rush him
>if spiderbot hits, he's weak AND lubed up
No matter how tight the defense, Recon penetrates hard and fast.
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>>563796242
Thanks, I love Bungie again
>>563796371
I search for those, who want to exfil, if they want to exfil, I kill them.
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>>563796294
I didn't suggest this because I thought we were past this kind of stupidity.
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>>563796480
>you already abandoned her just stay with ASSASSin
I'm a male Recon, he/hey/them. So watch yourself, chudcel.
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damn a cool and creamy 25k
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>>563796938
rape
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>>563796964
>damn a cool and creamy 25k
Counter-Strike: Source won
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>>563797076
Get in line, I have Assassins to gape with my pulsing cock
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Ahhh, back in my original, launch shell.
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I went from triage to vandal to now recon
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>>563796964
24,751 actually
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>>563797989
we round up around here
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FUCK the Sekiguchi kit this shit is such AIDS to play with it even makes the emploid queue unfun.
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how is the new experimental mode a "hit"?
The numbers barely went up, and they are back on the decline
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>>563797980
>I went from triage to vandal to now recon
Did you have to switch up your playstyle a lot?
I went from slower Recon to very fast Assassin.
Not only does Assassin bypass UESC for free, he can jump off a roof, and take no damage. Plus his smoke Ult scares the piss out of people, you throw the smoke bomb at someone, they start running, you shoot them in the back, without even entering smoke.
Recon can't get past UESC without getting shot, and can't avoid fall damage.
Assassin is much easier to move with, but Recon can do more damage.
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>>563798419
yeah i play slower with recon than vandal of course, but i know the maps much better now so i can get a good recon spot going
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>>563798418
The writer's gay boyfriend liked it.
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>>563798418
>how is the new experimental mode a "hit"?
>The numbers barely went up
The mode is fun, people like it. Take the fucking win.
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>>563798418
they're having a blast.
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>>563798418
These retards also said Highguard wasn't a flop
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>>563792873
I'm only level 40 but the new patch with the stay with group feature has actually made it way better and is the only meaningful change they've made. Last night I found a chill group and we just kept doing runs together with only the necessary comms it was comfy
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>>563798717
I think I'd rather have more comms than less, I guess I'll check back for S2.
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>>563798783
It's infinitely better than no mics at all, not everyone is going to be a chatterbox
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>>563799008
I don't even like the game as it is, honestly. Needs a lot of work.
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So, I just now found out that AMD Ryzen's like to have cl30 ram, I've been using cl36. I wonder if that's why my FPS in Marathon isn't that great despite me having a 3070 Ti.
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Now that /mg/ helped me find my Aracne skins, I love the game again.
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>>563799461
The Tiger engine just sucks ass. They honestly should have ditched with Destiny 2 but didn't, because they're cheap and retarded.
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>>563800515
The game is just bad, not worth logging in to.
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>my materialist core boosted its price to 88
are bungie nazis
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>>563801025
sorry, i think i mixed up enduring and materialist in posting this but still
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>>563801025
>are bungie nazis
Gay jew nazis, yes.
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>>563801337
why did you say the same thing 3 times
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>24,999 peak CCU
Embarrassing
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>spend over an hour messing around with my vault because it's full
>finally free up space and assembled a cute little kit to take to dire marsh
>tell myself playing a few rounds is the reward for organizing my weapon mods
>lose the 4k kit instantaneously after jumping into the map

What the fuck? Why are the spawns like this? It's a huge map, but this vandal was on me immediately. Did they do some heat exploit to rocket knee slide their way directly to my starting 100 meters?
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>>563803474
Every single run in this game is a gamble, whether you're a shitter or a hardcore. You could be the best Marathon player in existence and get killed by a cheater. You could be the worst most HRT brainfogged console player and get the drop on someone that can't figure out where you are.

I think that helps me get through gear fear the most. Just queue up for another game, roll your best gear, because that gives you the best chance you have to make it out alive. Form a group, if you can because that also increases your odds because people are talking.

The meta in this game is just stacking the odds with you, basically.
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>>563803367
>>563800515
lmao
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Destiny got a redemption arc when the taken ming came out, when will Marathon's redemption arc begin?
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>>563804715
It sold so poorly that Sony won't give them the chance. But honestly, they should have started to learn from their mistakes after Microsoft ditched them in 2007.
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>>563804251
You can hear footsteps and use equipment that doesn't require peeking, like grenades, drones or smoke. All these tools can make the enemy move, making him easier to shoot. Not a gamble.
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The only gambling element in Marathon is third partying. If you're getting third partied, you never know if it's better to fight or run.
I always fight, because when I damage the third party, it's more likely they die to UESC or someone else.
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>>563800515
>FUCK
>WE DIDNT BUY ENOUGH BOTS
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>>563804809
Obviously skill factors in. But ultimately it won't always save you in this game. Sometimes you're just going to die randomly.
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>>563804809
While the other anon is oversimplifying it, they're kinda right. You always have to take a risk when you're doing anything - shoot bots? You could be attracting players, and while you can hedge your bets by being aware, staying defensible, those other players could have better gear, can leverage that you don't know where they are to start a fight on their terms, even if you win the initial noise may have brought multiple parties, who will then pounce when you win the first fight. Sometimes you walk into an open zone and a crouched assassin with a charged up railgun and his buttbuddy down you instantly, or the spot you just scanned for baddies just happens to become occupied the moment you look away. If you're good, you'll win most the time, but there's simply no outskilling luck 100% of the time.
Of course that's discounting the game fucking up, cheaters, disinjector when you don't have it (though I haven't actually seen it since midseason so I don't know for sure if it's still a skill deletion device), the normal bullshit
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>PUBG
>Blackout 2018
>Warzone 2020
>Apex
>Faster Warzone 2025
These are the games that would "prepare" you for Marathon, not Tarkov or Arc.
It doesn't feel like a gamble, when you come from games, that require you to camp it out for wins.
>But the bubble and grenade spam
Don't go into tiny rooms to fight, your fault. Low IQ niglets don't know how to force medium range combat.
You shoot, and keep moving away from the bad area, or, you just wait.
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THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS
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>>563804772
I know people like to think that Bungie is this god-level developer, but if you look at the behind the scenes footage for the development of Halo 3, Microsoft saved that entire game.
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>>563805605
Not from cheaters, no. An average player can still kill a sweat on Marathon, without luck. By waiting and not being nervous.
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I really do hate how much noise everything in this fucking game makes, I just want to be a fucking worm picking through refuse but I'm forced to kill every single time. On the rare chance I never encounter another player it's almost a respite.
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>>563805628
>shoot bots? You could be attracting players
We knife those right, what are we, recruits.
>walk into an open zone and get sniped
We zig zag and jiggle peek multiple times, between some kind of trees, boxes, or vehicles, to see if someone tries shooting. We do it for at least a minute, right?
>no outskilling luck
Bad luck in this game is being looked at from multiple sides, at the same time. What are the odds that every path is watched? Remember, the third party, who is chasing you, can be jumped by someone else, while you're running away.
I don't believe that anything, except third partying is based on luck. Multiple groups have to look at you at the same time, for you to be really caught.
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>Tried free kit mode
>Everyone's a retard
>Get a couple of downs
>Run away with teammate
>No ammo
>Teammate is a Vandal
>Other one is Triage and got downed
>Vandal tells him to crawl over
>Tell me can you come watch me I'll rez him
>Unmute and tell Vandal no
>Some retard shows up and tries shooting from far away with a shit gun
>Vandal runs back without rezzing Triage and says "I feel so bad"
Stop being a pussy, Vandal
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>>563806004
>An average player can still kill a sweat on Marathon, without luck. By waiting
Wait for my foot up your ass
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>cryo
>fill crew walks past vault 1
>it's open
>"we should loot it!!!!"
>idk man this seems like a trap
>"it can't be a trap!!"
>walk in and start looting
>3 frag grenades immediately land at our feet
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>>563807464
uh, your bubble shield?
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I think the biggest tell with this Free Kit dire is people absolutely didn’t level up factions or do any questing, the character stat stuff that makes the difference just on display in who has something like max revive speed,heat, definitely the base anti virus one etc etc . Speaking of, very easy to do a lockdown if you find some anti viral because nobody is touching it and by time you get it going you can close out the game fairly uncontested. Also it’s funny because I think people are mislead thinking all the gear is bad and there’s still snipes and shotguns you can grab fairly straight forward
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>>563808023
I've never done one lock down or anomaly run. I watched glorp do it with a hardliner only, so how hard can it be?

Do you need a green chip bag for each individual lockdown? When's the maximum payout reached, or is every time the same chances at loot?
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>>563809251
Each anti-virus gives you a two minute buffer that doesn't go down unless you're in the zone. With MIDA upgrades you can have 2 minutes automatically, but the third tier takes hazard capsules so realistically 80 seconds.
I think you have to do like 3 drop ship waves per lockdown, so 2 minutes each is probably doing it quite quickly even with a crew. Getting all 3 done on a free kit sounds a bit out there, as you'll absolutely need to find a bunch of anti-virus in raid for each crew member to handle it.
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>it'll stabilize at 50k
Lmao
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Not having a premade I can play with consistently really just makes the game barely playable
>randoms don't listen to you
>they don't want to risk anything
>they don't communicate
>make stupid decisions like running out into the open or rushing in 1v3 solo
Unironically how are you supposed to consistently pull a win in cryo if you don't have a premade and no one is responding to LFG's? It just feels impossible with a fill team
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>>563809527
>team
>crew
Oh no no no. You misunderstand me. I'm a forever alone. Never seen this stuff done personally because I have no one to play with. Recently I saw Glorp do a built kit solo, all three spawns for lockdown, but he forced himself to only use the Hardline as his weapon. I am try to do that but without the insane flex clickbait reel.
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>>563809907
Trying

Like I'm trying to go to sleep but I'm still staring at my phone.
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>>563805987
People (rightfully) like to blame M$ for many things, because they can be a greedy and stupid corporation. They’re happy to outsource development of Windows, the most wildly used computer OS in the world, to a bunch of Indians for pennies on the dollar while it greatly declines in quality and stability. And they can be too hands off where games like Halo Infinite were in dev hell for many years and the Perfect Dark reboot got cancelled because the closest they got to completing it was an episodic prologue. But sometimes they know what they’re doing, and back then during the early 360 era they sure as fuck had people that knew what they were doing, even though it had the RROD.
Getting back on track though, the illusion of Bungie being a great studio was just shattered the moment they split from Activision. Beyond confirming that they were outright removing content from the game their customers paid for on release, they had multiple incubation projects that went nowhere while Marathon was the only one that survived.
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>>563810135
I don't think there was necessarily an "Illusion", just a failure to anticipate that scaling up the team and budget will scale up the quality and success proportionally. I don't know why the industry keeps making such retarded mistakes with their best teams
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>>563809894
This. I've done about 5 Cryo runs and not extracted once. Waiting for the solo version.
Should make game soloable in general. You can sneak past packs and being more stealthy is fine in solo, but with the bosses you just run out of damage and HP and ammo.
Reduce UESC HP, nerf guarded loot a bit (since it's no longer split between a teams), perhaps quicken UESC reflexes to compensate for the lower HP and to make things more dynamic. I like the way the UESC pack a punch if you are out of place, but maybe add some kind of solo vs UESC exclusive regen mechanic similar to Doom Eternal. Something like healing HP (not armor) on chained kills.
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>>563806030
Almost all the game design is oriented towards PVP.

>>563809894
You aren't. Solos only came in after the beta and they had to be dragged kicking and screaming. Who knows how long it will take, or if they even bother.

>>563810135
>>563811628
The people who made bungie a legend are gone.
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Remember when certain UESC would mimic player voice lines? I think that happened to me like once, 70 hours ago.
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>>563804715
>when will Marathon's redemption arc begin?
Consider how slow the devs are. I don't think they understand what's wrong. I don't think they'd be allowed to fix it if they understood. I don't think they'd be given the budget if they did get the go ahead. They launched with how many maps? It would take fucking years.

I'd rather see them make a new game.

>>563801540
For emphasis. It's the difference between the breakfast cereal Special K, and the KKK.
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>>563804715
When season 2 comes out and the content is dire marsh with a night skybox
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>>563812625
The general issue is that those lines are usually only ghost commander/ghost exclusive and they also need to have spotted a player at some point. If they're just in patrol mode for the whole match, they don't say shit.
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>>563773571
The other day I killed it as a Thief. You just stay on the roof and pop your visor to hack it and it misses 90% of the shots. Takes a while though, didn't help that I had to scavenge for ammo from other bots.
Of course it only works if no one else comes to Overflow.
I'm never going to use the cryo key or the purple backpack I got from it though.
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>>563819938
>Bring a Retaliator/Conquest with 180 magazine.
>Hold button down until boss dies.
MGs are great bossing weapons solely because of the shields and massive ammo reserves.
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>>563811734
>Waiting for the solo version.
we prob won't get one this season and i doubt most solos will stick around once they've gone as far as they can with season one
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>>563820080
That's great to know. I've had only had Punch and a Bully I picked up AND had to pick up Overrun from a bot, it was hell.
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>>563820228
You can just buy a Retaliator for like 500, kit it out and go loot a few tool carts. Belts are ridiculously easy to come by and there's always a chance you could also loot a shielded MG off the shielded assault troopers. I've mostly farmed the Overflow boss with both freekits and something equivalent of a 2k loadout which just consists of a ridiculously kitted out Conquest that shreds the boss in a minute flat.
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>>563809894
>consistently pull a win in cryo
>>563811734
>I've done about 5 Cryo runs and not extracted once

You faggots it's cryo, it's supposed to be ball-breaking hard, 5 cryo runs is NOTHING you don't know shit.
I've run cryo as much as I can since it opened and now I can sherpa fills into an extract or rat and solo exfil if shit happens (I've done vaults and gotten the compiler trace with fills).
You HAVE to build your map knowledge before you can win and even if you do so you will not consistently exfil because players in cryo know how to fight.

>randoms don't listen to you
I'm in fucking europe and a good 70%+ of the fill teams I have listen to comms
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>>563821957
It's impossible to focus on learning a map on your own pace while hurrying to follow the team. Trio is bad enough even on the known maps. And then it's only matter of time one of them gets downed and then it's over because apparently the strategic squads are just 3x better than fill queuers. The only time we didn't lose a player encounter was with some pro duo that were doing vaults. Then I got separated and couldn't find the extraction point even with the help of a ping because the map is a fucking 3D maze.
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>>563823409
Weak. When I started running cryo we didn't even know how to extract. You have it easy now.
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had a raid last night where usec were full on invading the entire drone wing, did some chud have a mission or did they just change it?

also the purple sellable in command wing stopped spawning everytime. i had multiple runs now where it didnt spawn at all (searched entire room).

>>563780374
mechanical skill almost doesnt matter at all in this retard game. the only thing that matters is your decision making and positioning.
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>>563788329
embrace the great white ape
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>>563788329
triage is always pointless unless you use alternating current or are too poor to buy meds
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>>563788329
Lethal as hell with volt weapons and post-patch railguns. Much like Recon though, you'll have to be good with your positioning as you've got zero mobility and one added problem too, with your med drone usually poking out of cover, giving away your position if you're not careful about it. Besides that, you get free shield regen for scrapes, a disgusting amount of EMP and an offensive ultimate that does quite a respectable amount of damage. Add to the fact that you also have the highest base self-repair and revive and it's a pretty stacked kit for playing volt oriented loadouts.
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>>563825252
uesc has been noticably more present since the lastest changes to outpost and they can spawn in packs with 2-3 commanders sometimes so it gets hot
>>563807464
clear your rooms
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>>563821957
>consistently pull a win in cryo
literally every streamer premade is able to because they can just sit there and play non stop and have had the time to build up their vault with actually valuable shit. Even if you're an unemployed bum, if you don't have 2 other unemployed bums on comms it's basically guaranteed you won't exfil unless it's an act of god
>You faggots it's cryo, it's supposed to be ball-breaking hard
There's an extreme difference between ball breaking and "if the randoms you get paired with haven't played on this map or don't communicate you're fucked". The amount of times I have a team mate with a cryo key that won't
>>say what key it is (so I have to look it up)
>>say what we actually fucking need (so I have to look it up)
>>tell us if he has any batteries/coolants on him (so I just have to assume they have zero)
and this isn't even counting people that join with no fucking gear and drop junk on the floor so they can run around with white shields and a v11 punch.
You can't build map knowledge now anyway because that actually requires going to cryo, which means just throwing shit into the void every weekend alongside these fucking degenerates because, again, everyone ELSE at cryo is a premade that knows the map like the back of their hand. Watching a youtube video is only going to get you so far and means jack shit when you're actually IN a game.
>I'm in fucking europe and a good 70%+ of the fill teams I have listen to comms
And I'm in australia, which actually means I'm in china or vietnam or japan depending on where bungie wants to fling me. I LITERALLY cannot talk to my team mates half of my games because they DONT SPEAK FUCKING ENGLISH you fuckwit
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>>563826187
>requires going to cryo, which means just throwing shit into the void every weekend
How do you think the guys that know the map got their knowledge?
>my fills dumb, everyone else pro
I can assure you some other teams will be clueless.
>I'm in australia
My condolences mate. Maybe learn how to say "How many batteries do you have?" in chinese idk
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>fill cryo and there's a young ass kid on my team
>"hi guys I hope we win today :)" says the kid
>I bring us through level 2 rooms for ez level 3 access
>"it's my birthday this week guys I'm so excited" says the kid
>kill warden and see gold shield on his corpse and loot it, but ultimately decide to drop it to the kid after I say it's a birthday present since he's only blue shields rn
>kid is losing his mind over the gold shield
>we hit the extract terminal with 2 mins left and a team starts chasing us through control
>they're really right behind us, they must not have level 3 and are gunning it for our exfill
>no bubbles or smokes left so they'll have us murdered during the 10 second countdown to extract so I hang back by a door right before exfill with the wstr and tell the other two to run
>down one enemy with wstr but the other two get me
>their team knocks my other teammate but ultimately they both exfill
>they thank me for my sacrifice and I feel like a hero
>realize I just lost like 8 purple salvage items I needed for upgrades and instantly the regret hits me

FUCK
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>>563827470
The purple salvage you can always get later, but this was your one chance to make a core memory for that kid. Good job king.
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>24,999
Almost 25k yesterday
It's so beautiful bros
Keep pushing, we can still win this
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in the loadout screen, vandal and thief are the only ones making fists, everyone else has relaxed hands.
what does it mean?
>pic related, kit i upgraded to from a green arachne sponsored and lost first game
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>>563829689
It means they are the same person, just like the trailer predicted.
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gas all assasiniggers
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>>563830393
I just toss chems at them.
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>run around outpost for 10mins
>find noone
>one guy opens pinwheel
>push him after a few minutes
>instantly get pushed right after by a level 160 diamond 1 guy
people that sit around in solos and wait to third someone need to honestly just kill themselves
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>>563788794
not that anon, but genuinely curious, what game is it?
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>>563831336
Wdym solos
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>>563825659
the nigger shell
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how the fuck are you supposed to do the final mida quest without getting completely gaped by the entire lobby
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>>563832492
wym wydm solos
retard
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Bros?
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It was nice hanging out with you faggots, but all good things come to an end
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>>563825659
>Where banana?
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>release big update
>all it does it stabilize the numbers so they're not on a continuous downward trend at least
>the numbers will still go down after the weekend
love to see it
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>>563833826
>>563834116
George Droyd
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>>563832852
i just cleared the whole map of runners on outpost solo, got in to pinwheel with the conveyance key, opened the command wing, then died to bots with 3 seconds left on the objective because i ran out of ammo and shields. fuck this game
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>>563834116
Why does he have a british accent in the game?
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>>563834207
heh
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>>563837385
He's from London
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>>563837779
>triage shell canonically was too compassionate at one point
>needed to increase aggression and threat in their personality profile
100% made him Londonese to accomplish this.
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>>563809894
>Consistently
You don’t man, it’s a casino
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What's the best way to farm raw credits?
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>>563826187
>I LITERALLY cannot talk to my team mates half of my games because they DONT SPEAK FUCKING ENGLISH

asians don't use comms even if you do speak their language I don't understand how they get anything out of this game at all
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>>563840310
rook runs imo, just sell all the shit
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>>563826187
Yeah the only pseudo fix would be to separate premade from fill squads but the game will never have the population now to do that without pissing everyone off. Even if you do, the majority of premades and streamers would fucking hate it because most of those people aren’t looking for equal skill engagements
The second most of those faggots bet killed it’s always “oh I’m pretty sure that dudes hacking” or the players that killed them are actually “total trash that just got lucky”
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I think it’s a really cool idea how you have this end game map you wanna use your good loot for 3 days a week, and so there’s a bunch of vault space that’s just fucking dead for 4 days out of the week because you know, maybe I wanna save a couple guns for the big faggot map
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>>563840990
The limited vault space makes gear fear worse ironically. Even at a much lower level I'm doing the same because I "might try cryo" so I'm hoarding all my blues and don't want to just lose them on perim
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>>563840675
Everything about this game would be smoothed out and improved by a high player count but it'll never have it so the game is just a huge waste of money and potential
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Just remember that when Destiny 1 released, it was in a bad state. It took Bungie about a year to get it to its peak. Every patch they release, improvements are being made.
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>>563827470
Nah that’s a way better outcome
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>>563831336
This but unironically. I hate every single one of you passive fucks. Eat shit in hell, asshats.
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>>563841339
Yeah, I don’t even think “gear fear” is the right word, it’s more stupid than that, it’s basic logic working against the game itself.
You make the logical choice to save up your most useful shit for the part of the game that demands it, but the game punishes you for it
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>>563842490
Can’t believe the first 1/4 of my playtime was in solos, that shit became a hyper vigilant paranoia simulator very quick
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You guys, after playing for a while... I think this game might be dookie.
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>>563841767
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>kit out
>load Outpost
>accidentally queue solo instead of fill
>wait for exfil
>robots down me but they can't stop me leaving
>Thief drone appears and bleeds me of my good heals
Probably the most embarrassed I've felt playing this
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>>563841767
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>>563841339
By the time you're ready to take on cryo you should have enough upgrades that you have space in your vault for many kits and the ability to buy decent kits from the armory
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>>563841767
Why did they release it on console only (ps4 iirc)?
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>>563843208
And how many players would they have snared if they also released on PC?
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>>563840310
Run rook, pick up everything you see, take no risks, once you have hoovered all the decent shit from the non hotspots, dip, sell, do it again. You can also do this on free kits but Rook lets you bypass some bots and starts with a backpack and punch/ce/WSTR if you have upgrades.
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>>563843397
Bungie had only made console games for over a decade by that point, and until the mid-teens PC was neglected by various studios and publishers because it was a smaller market and deemed not worth the cost of porting.
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>>563843172
Proper dickass theif, innit? Tosser.
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>>563841767
Destiny also released on Xbox/PS only, and sold VERY fucking well on release, so there was an incentive to stick with the game and fix it, plus they had the money to reinvest into the game.
They don't have that luxury here. The question is: Is Sony willing to burn even more money to try and salvage the game? Or will they heavily downscale the game to keep it running relatively to the money it is bringing in?
Which one seems more realistic?
Also, with Sony trying to pivot Fairgame$ into yet another extraction shooter, that's even more competition for Marathon in an already overcrowded genre, for how relatively niche it is. Sony really is gonna be stepping on their own toes here. Or they would, but I genuinely wholeheartedly believe Fairgame$ will never see the light of day. And if it does, it might genuinely be another Corcord-tier flop
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Why does nobody use Thief drone like you're supposed to? Just roll up on a squad through closed sightlines, nab something off the nearest one and zip away before they can even react. You get some decent shit sometimes.
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>>563843307
>many kits
Fucking delusional dude
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>get cryo spawn rushed in the first 2 mins and lose a team mate
>forced back to first room spawn
>"surely they will get bored"
>they camped the bag for 20 minutes straight
>UESC kept aggro'ing onto us despite the enemy team being closer and shooting them
>no team came to gank them despite us occasionally peaking out to shoot them and making noise
>one of them even had the bio disinjector
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>>563844375
Game's ass, man. Dunno what to say. Maybe they shouldn't connect rooms up so early in the next map let it be more hard core pve and then you clash at the end to exil?
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>>563844034
Not only did D1 sell well on launch, D2 did as well, and despite both launches being shit, people STILL came back for expansions. It cannot be overstated how fucking retarded it was to 1. make an "ending" expansion and 2. make their next game an extraction shooter. Why this was allowed by Sony at all is just beyond comprehension.
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>>563844619
>Why this was allowed by Sony at all is just beyond comprehension.
trend chasing
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>>563844775
Late stage capitalism was a mistake
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>>563844775
Is it trend chasing if it wasn't really a trend in the first place?
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>>563845057
it is
They wanted to be the next Fortnite, so they gotta go all in on a genre that they BELIEVE to be the next BR craze. Yes, it is as retarded as it sounds. And it has already been proven that extraction shooters have too many issues to make them the next big thing. I have no idea what the fuck the Sony higher-ups are thinking by trying to pivot Fairgame$ into an extraction shooter. I guess they're in too deep. But they honestly should be like SEGA with Hyenas and cut their losses at this point
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>>563845057
extraction shooters are absolutely a trend
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>>563844775
>trend
It was when they were developing the game. By the time it released, it was not a trend anymore, but an established genre. Arc Raiders was about the last extraction shooter that people still had the patience to try. I theorize that interest in trying new extraction shooters died down dramatically immediately after its release, considering how tiring the proposed loop it is. Marathon was very unlucky with its timing alongside controversies (art stealing, Destiny FOMO + lawsuits) dragging people's trust down severely. Bungie was never too big to fail to get away with it. Worse yet, Marathon released with the BARE MINIMUM and games don't get away with that anymore.
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I still haven't forgiven bungie for lying about destiny. That shit was praised as the next big second life sci epic and it launched in a pretty pathetic state. Now we're being told this game will be bigger than fork knife; I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>563845057
It wasn't trend chasing at first. Games like Tarkov and Hunt are niche and Sony hoped Marathon would be the one to break into the mainstream thanks to Bungie's pedigree, but they were beaten to the punch by Arc Raiders. Though I don't think Marathon would have been much more successful had it not, considering the art theft controversy and the delay.
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alright I'm addicted this game is fun bros
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Arc Raiders lost a lot of players, but the truth is that as soon as they release a major update with a lot of publicity, the numbers are gonna launch right back up with returning players, and so will sales.
Marathon could release the biggest update ever put into a game and I still cannot envision a player bump.
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>>563844375
Dude, this game is shit. It is specifically designed to allow this shit to happen. Shit like that is called hostile design. And this game has it all over it.
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>>563847786
Even Arc's worst numbers are Marathon's all time best. And it most likely doesn't have as large of a PC population as Marathon does, compared to consoles.
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I ran away, healed and then some bots shredded me back to a sliver of health, and I was doomed to wander the map in search of a med cabinet (didn't find one).
Also rewatching this made me realize this LMG had a shield, whoops.
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>>563848713
If you need meds look in buildings peripheral to PoIs, that's where they're more common
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>>563844375
As intended
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>>563848713
>this LMG had a shield
what do you mean by this?
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>>563849125
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>>563848962
Yeah, I know. I checked those buildings near South Relay and Overflow, and sadly there were none. Luckily no one looted that guy when I eventually went back to Hauler.
>>563849125
LMGs get an energy shield attachment, it covers upper body. On PC it's Z to activate. Some guns also have alt-modes or scopes, etc, activated with Z.
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>>563844375
>>563847947
how do we solve this issue?
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>>563849371
Is captcha fucked again?
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>>563849481
You get ready to engage players from 28:30 on in cryo.
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Why the fuck don't they tell me where the sites for tick infestation scanning are on the map?
Why do they want me to google it?
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Another week of not doing Cryo because I disagree with the design structure of the game
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>>563850209
Open your map, click on your mission tab, hover over the objective and read.
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>>563850442
you can't make me read while I rape
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>>563850209
For tick infestations you basically have to know where they are. There's a bunch in tunnels. I think other guaranteed spots are between Hauler and Overflow, and between Hauler and North Relay.
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>>563850209
They want you to play the game and explore to figure it out on your own retard
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>>563849481
Immediate fix is PvE mode. Non-negotiable.

Follow-up fixes are (and i need to make pasta for this because i keep repeating these far too often):

1. Bullet drop and windage for ballistic weapons.
2. Stabilisation time for sniper rifles so none of that retarded 360-no-scope shit.
3. No hitscan for ballistic weapons in-atmosphere/gravity. Energy weapons and railguns and hitscan.
4. Energy weapons lose some damage in atmosphere (fog/rain/aerosols/dust). Ballistic weapons lose a bit of accuracy at mid-long range in windy conditions.
5. Railguns cannot hold charge and are instagib weapons.

6. No red glow when in proximity.
7. Less sound generated while looting.
8. No sound outside when opening doors inside. No sound inside while doing stuff outside.
This is to prevent bullshit like hearing someone healing/charging shields, looting, swapping upgrades, etc while being outside. Sound propagation in this game is designed to make you as noticable as possible to force PvP and spoof your sneaking. They might've done this to "prevent" ratting, but as far as things go, they made it so that you can be detected by rats and thus cannot skirt around or make a stealthy escape.
9. Toggle walk/run.
10. Toggle stand/crouch/crawl.
11. Holo decoy/proxy decoy/noisemaker/flares.
12. 50% reduced spawns on maps. 4 solo/2 teams on perimeter, 6 solo/3 teams on dire marsh and outpost (adjustable). Cryo is PvE-only, team-based (too much dangerous shit for solo).

13. Thermals have reduced range to abide laws of physics. Can be spoofed by flares, environmental sources, heat grenades.
14. Runner heat can only be detected when its building up over 35%, and increases gradually. Overheated runners glow like a christmas tree.

15. More player xp rewards for completing contracts, killing UESC, destroying tick nests, drones, opening stashes/lockboxes/rooms.

Cont...
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>>563851843
Cont...

16. Trap kits can work as booby traps if you are killed with them in your inventory (activate them when downed or alive - but you can no longer place them). They also detonate any explosives you have in your bag.

17. WSTR shotgun has slower reload, and less spread.
18. WSTR and Misriah use shotgun shells.
19. Damage based on calibre/energy cell type.
20. Standard mines and remote detonation charges. Claymores no longer project red lights. Can be spoofed/detonated by special signal chaf/spoofer grenade/signal kit.

21. Roaming UESC patrols.
22. Aggressive UESC. Downing even one enemy alerts all nearby robots who will converge onto the area. If you have made a stealth kill and it did not see you, converging robots will not know it was you and will investigate. If the killed robot saw you, rest of them will converge rapidly. If only commander remains of the initial bot squad, calls in reinforcements and a hunter gunship.
23. UESC bounty-hunter. Works like Rook, UESC-recruited runner. Eliminations of runners earn commendations and scrip, which can be spent on upgrades and gear. Can command nearby UESC bots. Can hijack commander bots and use them. Only 1 can spawn on the map initially after 15 minutes (solo or teams). Can spawn more proportional to the number of eliminated teams.

24. Zombie/tick-mutant enemies. Think infested terrans from SC2, mutated humans that looks like giant ticks/headcrabs, giant ticks that look like tyranids/zerg/xenomorph mix. They shoot biotox spit/spray (much like biotox grenade launcher) and attack with claws/teeth in melee.
25. Hazardous fungal/spore/toxin environments.
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>>563853039
>16. Trap kits can work as booby traps if you are killed with them in your inventory (activate them when downed or alive - but you can no longer place them). They also detonate any explosives you have in your bag.
Awful idea. This would make everyone carry one with them, and everyone would be afraid of looting player bags.
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>spawn in ai uplink
>not even 10 seconds (not exaggerating) we get wiped by two purps and one gold
What the absolute fuck are these spawns on Dire?
Holy shit am I glad I didn't go overboard on my kit, I just fucking knew
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>>563853039
Cont...

Obviously, some fixes are necessary for various shells.
Destroyer: can bombard area with missiles if no enemy is detected or enemy is behind cover.
Vandal: can slide and shoot at the same time.
Recon: sonar no longer makes visual effects, smarter spider-bot. Sonar is much like a portable TAD.
Medic: idk, med-bots share buffs better?
'sass: no sound from activating stealth, smoke spoofs thermals.
Thief: no exploits with grappler. Can choose different drones: pickpocket, scout (has thermal mode), bait (can spoof placed explosives, can make sounds, can make a smoke cloud), explosive (explodes on impact).
Rook: can bait UESC bots to attack runners while signal mask is active. Repair mode removes debuffs.
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>>563853426
This is what the game is now. It's why Bungo released the freekit mode. You now get to play the game with gray guns vs gray guns, or not at all. Congrats on them figuring out the core problem with every extraction shooter ever and making the exact same mistakes they did without learning anything... After the game launches. After untold hours of testing and concept work.

It's almost impressive just how badly they have bungled this game considering all the history they could have learned playing like, one fucking wipe of Tarkov.
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>>563853221
It is a good idea, just needs some counterplay, like Thief being able to difuse them via pickpocket drone, or spoofer kit/grenade activating it, or signal mask not activating it. recon's pulse and TAD can spot one too. Mind you, it takes space in the inventory.
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>>563853426
>>563853962
Ideally, spawns would be, and should be, randomised.
Most unfortunate, anon. Yet somehow i think you were a victim of a bunch of premade shits who used a cheat.
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>>563853039
>Trap kits can work as booby traps if you are killed with them in your inventory (activate them when downed or alive - but you can no longer place them). They also detonate any explosives you have in your bag.
i think carrying a trap kit to have an exploding corpse like cod martyrdom would be too gay and op
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>>563854730
I was thinking about a suicide vest to aloha snackbar runners, but trap kit is something that is already in the game, and as it is right now, its pretty much useless.
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>>563854730
>we've heard your feedback on booby trap kits and have added a new item called the defuser which is only 1500 credits so that now only streamfags can loot corpses
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>>563855454
that'd be funny but not useful. you can already do that with thief drone and claymores. trap kits are probably destined to their fate, it was a bad idea in the first place. they're one of the easiest noob traps in the game to avoid. plenty of the items are "useless" like the ornithologist chip, i don't know why, i think they think it gives the game character, which it kinda does i guess
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>>563855741
kek
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>>563847147
You're forgetting to mention CoD did DMZ Extraction Mode so CoD kiddies used that as a frame of reference for FPS Extraction games which Marathon alienates with it's wacky art style and esoteric sci fi flavored loot+abilities
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>>563856128
CoD also made another extraction mode after DMZ which was MWIII Zombies. Instead of being PvEvP it was just PvE tho, but it was another attempt at bringing extraction shooters to the mainstream well before Arc. And frankly its more likely that if CoD is to make another DMZ mode, it'll take more inspiration from Arc or Zombies.
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>>563848630
>Even Arc's worst numbers are Marathon's all time best
This is why people said Marathon needed to launch bigly. Lose 80% of 500k like Arc, that is still 90k logging in everyday. Lose 80% of 90k, that is like 15k logging in everyday.
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>>563857574
No matter what they do, Marathon can only get good numbers when it will get PvE mode. They should just cut their losses and dump the deadweight.
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>>563858321
yeah it needs a way for people to progress. there are too many pvp hunter psychos who make it hard to do objectives. i know they wanted the game to be exciting but it makes the story and shit unplayable sometimes
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>>563847673
That's just the Stockholm syndrome. Bungie knows how to make an addictive and inviting world. Your choice is to turn back now or continue on in this doomed world. The longer you stay the deeper the pain will be when you realize you shouldn't have.
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>do shit in cryo fill all day
>fuck I must be washed
>queue sponsor marsh fill
>exfil consecutively 5 times in a row wiping the whole map and doing lockdowns every time they spawned
It's a least somewhat comforting that I'm likely not dogshit and that it's just cause the cryo meta is fucking aids to deal with
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>>563856472
People that enjoy PvE extraction games and game modes should not even be in the discussion. Any kiddies that played MWIII Zombies are not going to seek out PvPvE games. DMZ is the only CoD thing comparable.
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>>563858668
I mean, i already find it to be exciting, but mandatory PvP is getting in the way. It is not fun, enjoyable, or conductive. Sure, i like PvP when its fair, but considering how things are in the game (aim bot on controllers, cheaters, co-ordinated death squads, psychos), its just worth playing.
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There's nothing to do as a mid level gamer in this game. Once you're through the beginner queue and you get into the real lobbies (70+), it's nothing but death squads. You might get lucky and wipe one, but not all of them. You won't be the guys that wipe the map and have 10 minutes to loot. So what can you do? You can't do cryo. You can't reliably do Outpost. You can't do Dire. It's not worth it to do Perimeter. You quest? For what? Barely meaningful gear floor upgrades? A few stat upgrades? The only real power in the game are better gun attachments, bubble shields, thermal scopes, self repair speed, shotguns, purple shields, and the heat upgrades. Everything else is pretty much pointless. And all the pros have scooped up enough of the power items to last forever. You can't get better at PvP because you can't fight.

So what the fuck does the game want you to do?
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>>563859847
>So what the fuck does the game want you to do?
Quit
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It's still so funny that matches are only 25 minutes so if you actually do murk the whole lobby you maybe have 10 minutes to do the things you want to do. Extraction shooters aren't supposed to be fast and frenetic all the time. There's supposed to be a cadence.
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>>563859847
A game for everyone is a game for no one. Try positioning better.
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[Sad News]
Marathon isn't in the Top 100 Most Played or Top 100 Global Best Sellers anymore
Tahnit will likely commit suicide today
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>>563861134
no one cares chuddy
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>>563860407
>Be better than average :)
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>>563842490
if I die like that again I honestly might switch to doing the command wing vent tech.
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>>563861373
I know someone that might
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Perimeter is genuinely the only well designed map in the game.
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>>563860407
An extraction game trying to attract the MLG E-sports wannabe audience doesn't do well. Have fun fighting nothing but sweats and no-lifers next month.
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>>563861134
[Uplifting news]
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>>563861503
Is this the notorious former Valorant lead designer Ziggler-sensei?
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>>563861134
[Rape News]
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>>563861861
Playstation President and CEO.
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>>563832852
Didn't you get the message? You need to rape the entire lobby first.

>>563840368
many are using out of game alternative coms. It's still sometimes worth it to try. Some, particularly chinese and koreans make it a point to kill all non chinese or koreans.
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>>563860279
Bungie thinks everyone is retards so they make you play fast and hope you fuck up to play again
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>>563841767
....and the employees of bungie that made destiny one are a lot better, faster, and more efficent than the fucks making shit today.
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>>563842490
That's literally the core game as designed anon. Why the fuck did you even buy this?
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I'm sure Sony is thrilled to give Bungie even more money to waste on this dead game.
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>>563859847
I'm also a middleman and I'm bored to fucking tears playing on the two "easy" maps. I can't fucking stand the camping on outpost. I'll never see cryo until I bet my good shit on fucking randos. I hate this game so much, but I low key wanted to love it. The setting and premise are very close to a sci fi setting I created a decade ago. This is the closest I've come to seeing my dream come true so far, and it's like shoving your nutsack in a paper shredder.
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>>563844034
I highly doubt current MTX are even keeping pace with server costs. And current bungie is slow and expensive.

The fact that they are launching fairgames and as an extraction shooter no less, is a strong sign they have no confidence in marathon. really, sony's best move is to move bungie to it's next game ASAP, and leave this in maintainance mode.
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>>563844375
I'm not sure what you were expecting, but this really is how the game is supposed to work. What do you think the team that's good enough to have a disinjector is going to do?

>>563844816
The free market will fix this, although it may have to take a rectal route.
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>>563861705
Yeah
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>>563849481
Specify the issue. The entire game design wants to focus away from PVE, and towards lots of PVP. And to have teams with unequal levels of guns and gear.


Guess what, thats exactly what you're doing.

>>563850209
>Why do they want me to google it?
Because Bungie has done that for 20 years now? Why did you expect different?
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>>563861705
They should really focus on making more maps like Perimeter.
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>>563862857
>move bungie to it's next game
>next game
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>>563853962
Modern bungie doesn't hire people who play games, really.
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>>563859847
Be content. And by both meanings of thes. Contentment in your role, and content for other players to shoot at. That is the design.
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>>563862857
Sony's best move is to cut their losses and shut Bungie down and lay off everyone that works there.
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I don't even mind gear disparity, I just hate that I'm basically forced to engage with those players because the maps are so tiny. It's almost impossible to disengage with people once they decide they want to fight you.
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>>563863656
>>563863449

I would count a null pointer as technically bungie's next game as well.
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>have to claim all my cyac rewards to get vip
>vault is full
lol
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>>563861705
The only map me and my crew enjoy
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>>563863659
Incompetent devs that have decades of games under their belt, please understand
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>>563859847
>So what the fuck does the game want you to do?
Idk about PvPfags, but for me:
>story contracts
>exploration
>investigation
>fucking around in buildings and whatnot
>decking in robots
>soaking in the horror vibes from what happened to colony
>enjoying environments
>enjoying rain and storms
>enjoying horror soundscapes
>scavenging stuff
>hunting for those collectibles to get codex entries for story bits
It has plenty for me, but getting my face shoved right into cesspit that is PvP in this game is just making me not want to play. Imagine - everything is there for me to enjoy it, and yet there is this one thing that ruins it. Like a barrel of honey and a spoonfull of grease.
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Daddy Charter has a new cutscene for me, this is what I want more of for this game.
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>>563864574
>enjoying rain and storms
Not dynamic enough and the fixed day cycle blows, desu. Its 2026, why are we still living in the stone age of shooters?
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>>563864574
you aren't the target audience, but they have games for you like bop it or put the circle shape in the circle shaped hole
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>>563865686
little bro thought he cooked with this one
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>>563863659
Cryo's supposed to be the boss level. No retreat. no quarter. No running away. It's why you need to fight hard even for a chance to extract.

>>563865686
it goes in the square hole, you spark leaf toilet paper fool.
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>>563865969
they also have bop it extreme
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>>563865686
>>563866303
bop it is a fun game that can appeal to everyone, the same can not be said for marathon
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>>563859847
>>563864574
Just bite the bullet and stop playing, we will maybe get a refund(or PVE Mode) if we collectively refuse to be the content they want to sell.
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>>563865638
>not dynamic enough
Its good enough for me. Would be nice if there were proper hurricane-force winds too. The more hazardous the weather is, the better atmosphere and vibes of the game are.
>>563865686
Picrel.
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>>563866604
I stopped playing it on 27th of March, its almost 3 weeks since. I've played Atomfall and some Stalker 2.
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>>563866604
This is true. There's still a chance we get a refund if the game goes on EoS soon right? At this point I feel robbed
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>>563866604
>>563867658
Truth be told i dont want it going bye-bye. I still kinda want to play it, just with PvE mode. As long as they go EoS and release an offline/PvE patch, i can accept it's demise.
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My SekGen rank is still only 9 lmao, like it never passively raised at all unlike the other factions.
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>>563865686
>shitting on bop it
uncultured swine
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>>563868186
if this game does die soon I would love a way to just explore the maps offline, the environment and audio artists put in world class work. Soundtrack is super underrated too
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PvP is fine when you aren't getting a train ran on you every match. They just need to restructure the cadence or the game and double the map sizes and fix spawn rushing and fix spawns in general.
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>>563868186
I'm level forty and only at 3 because I've done like one of their contracts they're all aids
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>>563868667
that isn't shitting on it
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>>563868186
>PvE mode
what would be the fun in that. the NPC combat dynamics in this game are not nearly interesting enough.
I just hope it lives long enough to see S'pht release.
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>>563866784
Been playing Lords of the Fallen 2023.
Was free on PS+.
How the fuck is it possible to fuck up rollslop gameplay?
The game feels like unresponsive jank.
Attacks can be chained like i was playing mousso shit and the camera feels even more adverse than OG Dark Souls.
Enemies sometimes just cancel animations.
The designs and lore onpoint tho....
If i coud read it.
Who ever decided to make it necesarry to level radiance and inferno for lore bits is a fucking retard.
It was probaly the same idiot that thought doing easter egg shit to unlock boss weapons special moves is a good idea.
The areas are beautiful and fun to traverse, kinda reminded me of the levels of the Demons Souls remake.
I dont like the Umbral-switch.
Puts on this grey muddy filter that makes it hard on the eye.
Feels like a forced gimmick to differentiate themselfs from their competitors.
In practice, you just go umbral at a vestige and play the entire game with a shitty filter if you dont want to miss out on content.
I like that the multiplayer is less complicated to access than any soulslike before, only problem is that no one plays it and so it takes up to 10 minutes to match.
>Marathon flashbacks
Dunno why they couldnt just say god and satan instead of orius and ardyn.
Feels kinda forced.

All in all, still a more entertaining and fun game than marathon.
Cant wait for Duskbloods to wash away the filthy taste of shitty unbalanced PvPvE.
If i am getting my refund from Marathon, i am gonna buy Tainted Grail.
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>>563869090
They should like halve the spawns, especially if player counts continue to be middling. Cryo can stay as the rape factory and give the rest of us a break
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>>563867658
LOL. You aren't gettng a fucking refund. Sony will waste more money having this thing limp like anthem than give you your money back.
>>563868667
Bop it is a truly sublime pvp experience.
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>>563869149
After seeing the complier you still expect ANYTHING good?
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>seeing the complier
I will never see the compiler in this game probably
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>>563869309
>tfw stuck in Gold 3 in Ranked Bop-It
Somehow it's still less of a rape fest than Marathon ranked.
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>>563868186
>>563868848
Sony will definately axe it before SKG goes into action.
Cant get the tax write off otherwise.

A shame, i bought this game for the horrorvibes, art, lore and ost.
The PVP and threadmill shit with faction upgrades just killed it for me.
Instead of a kino survival horror with PVP elements we got a uberjeets detroit simulator or a BR depending on who you ask.

>>563869149
Just load in NPC Runners like Dark Souls does it.
Maybe give them some lines and special drops.
Set up shit for the players.
>NPC Sniper on KI Uplink
>player has to use the tunnels to get into the building, NPC is overpowered with the tracking on purpose.
>building has Claymores all over the floor
>if you trigger them, NPC gets active and tries to corner you
>if you dont, you can get on the roof and aim at him
>he gives up and becomes friendly for the reminder of the run
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I just got double teamed by two assassins in solo lmao I'm actually kind of pissed
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>>563870410
Qrd on skg? I saw that there was some sort of hearing in Europa land. That doesn't mean shit here in burgerstan thoughbeit, we have zero consumer protection especially right now with orange retard I think they actually even gutted the agencies
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do the c.a.r.r.i. reputation packs just never reset after they're gone? only 3 for each faction is barely anything

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