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Rough Night Edition
>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/
>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/
>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/
>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.
>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.
Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gN JQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/
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Sex with Venator
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>>563690829
In THIS thread, we love Silver
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Thoughts on my build? No SS, no dash
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We've got them!
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>>563691538
lol you're right. Idk what it is about Mo, maybe it's because he has two heads I hover between the two
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Vindicta is fun to play but she has zero carry potential outside of small emblem ranks. She can poke, but she can't follow through unless your team can get them below 50%hp.I forgot dispel magic works on yamato grapplebut even if I died less it wouldn't have changed anything.
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Seven seems to be a cool champ aswell if you also like victor.
Just press the ball lightning button
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i love victor
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>>563692546
MMR systems in general are. Its time to accept that zoomers took over the internet and they constantly need to validate themselve somehow with some invisible metrics.
Imagine someone caring about an invisible virgin score metric
The MMR system just fucked everyones sense of progression and took a fun part out of the game
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aghs upgrade
trust the plan
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>>563691814
Too meta, I'm bored of it. Nah, it's just that it does something Geist is already good at (long safe fights). It also doesn't help her survivability (the most important thing of solo queue Geist imo). And it's too expensive on top of that having no prerequisite items.
So I wanted to build more frontloaded. SS is better on Geist than anyone else probably but I think it's better on paper than in practice. I find that the fights are usually decided before you get those coveted 6 stacks and because you need a build up it makes it harded for you to be a spearhead/initiator—something I build for
I've been replacing it (build order-wise) with tempo: Gives you spirit resist, gives you fire rate, move speed, and better healing. Pretty much everything Geist wants. You already shit out damage as Geist, so whenever I die as Geist I rarely thinkg "if only I had 66% more firerate". It's usually because you got bursted and CC'd down right at the start or couldn't escape a bad position.
I am a Frenzy defender till I die.
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that faggot eido lost them the bo1
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>>563692854
Pretty insecure but my dick IS around 7 inches so I guess I got that going for me.
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>>563692527
Ignore the haters, brawlbro
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Seven has got to be the most cowardly brawl pick aside from maybe Paige
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It was never like that though. You'd be new to the game and got screwed over by entire lobby, then you were one of the average players in the lobby while 2 carry and another time you the one that carried.
You could really see yourself getting better and starting to be come the guy.
This shit is just casino flipping around without any sense of progression untill you randomly go on a smurf and actually see the improvements
If you want to win, get gud and thats it. I hate this cuck pandering so much to give everyone the fairest experience and a chance to win so everyone can feel without ever achiving good in his 50% winrate dumb addicted gameplay
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>>563691260
"We" being the transgirls of r/deadlock of course!
>>563693075
Shillversisters we're so weak, we must beg for more buffs...
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AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>563692975
she has no eyebrows...
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>>563693340
boobs mina boobs
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Why does she keep losing?
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>>563693075
Brawlplayers are the real high elo of deadlock. ""Having Fun"" is the best you could achive in a game
I pity all the rankedchuds that are already cock obsessed in a game that didnt even officially release.
Its like they dont know that they'dd end up virgin with 40 yet
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>>563693308
wolfbroken
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>>563693530
Bebops head game is getting even sloppier than the French queen of blowjobs
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>>563693170
it was "never like that" because in old titles you had servers and there were public servers where all the kids and shitters were playing for fun and pro servers, usually password protected where real players were. And playerbase was insanely small compared to literal millions of people now.
And you also were playing with like small handful of players within 100km of you instead of whole fucking planet earth. In a small sample size like that majority of players would be somewhere in the middle of the bell curve of skill. That's why when you popped on you favorite 2fort_only_alamaba_sisterfuckers server you saw same 20 people every day. Small playerbase + small sample size from your immediate area.
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>>563693849
imagine her pinching and squeezing it and giving it a little slap
with spit
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>NA match
>friendly jokes, compliments to the enemy
>EU match
>team who literally paused last weeks game in order to bug abuse better calling the other team "monkeys" for pausing
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Hots talents gamemode?
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>>563693340
Guh... Thanks Anon.
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Death to all troons
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>brawl
you might as well just roll dice or draw cards randomly to entertain yourself
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>>563694550
I was literally just thinking of leaving feedback about this but Geist's ult lines are mostly kinda lame. Other than "I WANT YOUR SOUL!!!"(one of the best lines in the game imo) they're mostly pretty weak
Considering her ult is the only one that's better at low health, you'd think her desperation lines would be a good chance for her to be really evil, show a bit of oathkeeper's hunger
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>>563695005
>fantasizing to yourself about other players hypothetical future ranks
>don't care at all
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this is my friend's graves build, say something nice about it.
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and here's my other friend's viscous build
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Has anyone else been having long queue timers today?
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>>563695790
Retards already let walkers die for free at minute 10 the amount of lane pressure Graves can put on the average solo queue team just by pressing 4 is not to be underestimated. Once she has put down that gravestone someone is forced to react to it, it's as if Grey Talon's bird could splitpush basically.
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>>563692639
I NEED celeste to string me along until I fall in lover with her, get in a relationship with me, reshape my mind and body to become completely emotionally and sexually dependent on her, and then brutally cuck me
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>>563696106
Celeste would give other men lap dances whole you watched
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>Celsius + Warden lane
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>>563696342
>Celsius
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>>563696253
Only m*na and whoreiday would do that. Celeste is squarely in the "loyal and wont cheat on you" camp (other residents include: ivy, vindicta, miku)
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>>563696342
>Tombs + Apollo lane
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>>563696506
Obviously a circus acrobat with tattoos all over and as much skin exposed as possible is gonna be a whore, the fuck. Do you guys often get played by women
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if you get caught in the green or yellow enemy walker you're most likely getting raped but the blue walker you can push the wave and go to the right side and it's an easy escape 9 times out of 10, why is it like that
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>>563696832
>breaks the cost-benefit evaluation
investing in shit you don't need is a trap but literally everyone should hit their green breakpoint and if you buy more than a t1 in orange/spirit you're throwing your buy in cost into a fire if you don't then hit the breakpoint
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>play support
>no one pushes lanes
>play victor
>everyone takes sidelanes
fuck my life bro
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>rutger+cadence lane
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>if you buy more than a t1 in orange/spirit you're throwing your buy in cost into a fire if you don't then hit the breakpoint
nooo you cant just buy something that synergizes with your build for cheap, you have to buy a t3 and waste 3200 souls and a slot so you get 2.3 extra damage per bullet!!!
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>play support
>push lanes and efficiently farm nearby boxes/sinners
>show up to fights with a suite of rape items
never complain about free networth. you always want it in your own hands rather than that of a braindead team mate
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yes
use your gun you useless bum
>b-but im a support!
yeah and your gun does 200 dps because you bought two (2) whole items. wake up and pick up your mouse
if you're absolutely allergic to gun, don't buy gun items
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I love camping the sidelanes. Retards will go there one by one and 1v1 you. If you're playing Drifter it's easy stacks.
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>>563697549
noobs fail to realize that simply running at the enemy from the sides or behind is immensely beneficial
when you watch games below phantom or so, people try to force teamfights literally just running at the enemy team from the front, it's wild
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>>563697663
I have several friends who played rivals and overwatch and etc... who would go. "Yeahhh idk about that..." when I told them deadlock's character interactions were better and after getting them into deadlock or they checked out voice interaction videos every single one of them went "no actually you were right".
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>>563698138
you're just playing thesaurus-fu
of course didactic storytelling can be good but it can also be shitty and bad. There's a difference between Atlas Shrugged and Shen Yun. Both are technically "didactic stories"
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>>563698363
there's nothing thesaurus about it, it's the default term to refer to a story with that communicates a moral of lesson
the issue with bioshock infinite is that it's garbage, not that it has a X is le bad theme
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>>563697663
Deadlock's characters are why I got into the game to begin with.
>>563698334
Wasn't the black chick rebel leader portrayed as becoming a over-zealous murderer wanting to butcher the big capitalist villain's kid and elizabeth stabbed her in the back to stop it.
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my point is, if you don't convey the morals or lesson then it's still shitty. I read your post as saying "it's didactic, therefore it's good." I'm saying just because a story is didactic doesn't automatically make it good.
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its strong to have a team composition with utility and functionality other than holds m1
as a solo queue player you should go full gun every game until you hit a rank where you feel like the average player in your matches can aim in any capacity
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>So Infernus, there's blue & red ixians, but you seem to be the sunburnt type, is that due to the fire thing or do xiggers exist too? Does that mean there's raixism too? I better hide my whip away then might bring up some trauma haha
How is this not great dialogue? Valve knocked it out of the park
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Apollo is really not bad at all.
Graves has some big stinkers though but I suppose band kids probably did exist in the 40s so whatever. I hate her character but I can't hate her writing. They aced the obnoxious shitty weirdo kid with rich parents personality.
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Just won my first game with Victor.
It was lots of fun.
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>>563699056
Apollo is fucking great as an Ixian nationalist
Graves is too much but the fact that all the other heroes shit on her for being groomed by a Lich is based
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Paige is worse than graves desu.
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the entire appeal of mina is that she is CUTE and PETITE and has SMALL TO MEDIUM TITS go take your mommy-issue-derived fascination with huge breasts to some hag like geist
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This is you
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Games should just end automatically based on a scaling soul deficit. Any time you look at the scoreboard and see something like 43k v 62k or 128k v 150k you can immediately predict the outcome of the game with 99% accuracy. Killing the patron is a useless formality that wastes everyone's time
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Do we really need two heckin' cute chungus characters?
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venator makes me want a theologian character
his whole thing where he's a murderous soldier and zealot is massively downplayed to be a wholesome chungus priest daddy
I want a proper christcuck chud. give us an ascetic monk who has spent the last 30 years in monastic seclusion and is being pulled back into society for the ritual
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his voicelines for enemies are super aggressive. he even threatens rem. have you not seen his low health portrait?
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>respects your heckin pronouns
>is friendly and polite to most monsters despite hating monsters
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Does he have autism?
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>Young man, I don't care about the circumstances of your birth, I care about who you are. I don't give a damn if you look like a monster… but if you act like one, I will put you down.
Failed the media literacy check award
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He kind of is a battle maniac
Like yeah he's obviously more than just a combat monkey but you can tell volvo are leaning into some shooter protag tropes with him(as well as a few others like the occasional Castlevania or Boondock Saints reference)
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why is she so bratty?
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>new co-op pve mode to be quite familiar with roguelike twists
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>You can change your name, but you can't change who you are Pocket
Do not call the son of Ixia a marvel character
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>>563700648
dumb retard
>respect my retarded preferences!
enjoy your balloon tits if you want but you're gonna get called a retard for putting them on a skinny girl with small tits. it literally makes no sense and ruins the appeal
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>>563700648
nobody tells you to be affraid of big boobs, its just cringe to read closet homo insecurity complex aons tryhard post about his shitty 2d anime milkers 900 times every day
>haha look i made the boobs 300 times bigger than usual im not a homo at all
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so when are they nerfing shiv
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>haha look i made the boobs 300 times bigger than usual
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>>563701053
>has pictures of halfnaked man saved
point proven
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>proceeds to draw character with 200 lb baboon ass because they told you it's ok to like butts but it's not ok anymore to like boobs in 2026
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Go to bed, vindicta
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>>563700593
I don't like thrill seekers. It's a mentality I could never understand
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Still trucking on as Doorman. Leveling bell to max first feels pretty good, actually lets you contribute some pretty good damage in fights. I'm leveling doors second just because i feel the character isn't anywhere near as fun if you don't have max doors, but then you're left in the akward position of leveling cart third and ult last. Not having your final ult level for 99% of the match does suck, but the other abilities are just so good. I think there's definetly an argument to be made for leveling bell then cart then ult and not leveling door isntead, but he's the fucking doorman, i want to abuse my cross-map doors damn it.
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I think they should give paige a tail + make her at least 60 lbs heavier. I have never seen a booktoker at a "healthy" weight.
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>there are foids in this very thread who are obsessed with Victor
Huh... is Victor the Hoodwink of Deadlock?
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Small boobs this, big boobs that. I just want fat mina for christ sake!
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>>563702949
>erm, headcannon much?
people get revived from death and everyone acts like they're going to return to normal life for a drink after. however you want to describe it, shit's obviously not happening in a normal part of new york by the world's normal rules
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Souls/spirits in deadlock are weird.
They're used as a currency, used to power things, the urn keeper uses the urn to capture rogue spirits casually, they supposedly originate from ixia, and have a whole bunch of uses.
I'm sure using souls for things isn't really a big deal in deadlock.
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>Huh... is Victor the Hoodwink of Deadlock?
Not quite, a foid designer most likely designed him using peter steele from type o negative as a reference when trying to meet the criteria for actual frankenstein being incredibly aesthetically pleasing.
So with that in mind he is basically a weird targeted character towards regular women and what they would actually find attractive.
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Oh not to mention that it took 7 of the best ESPers to eradicate seven's soul and they completely failed.
I'm sure it's both a case of Souls being really hard to eradicate and Seven being powerful.
I'm sure you could use your grandma's soul in a makeshift bomb but I don't think it'll do much to her soul.
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The LGBT see non-binary people as trans because you're 'transitioning' from male/female to neither.
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>here's your enemy lane, bro
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abt my performance today, it stems from my mental being ruined. I've been depressed bc Ive worried way too much about the next 1-10 years of this war & its outcome, which made me feel like "this is pointless, I want to just stop." to basically sum it up.
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Paige should be ATLEAST 100 pounds fatter.
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HELP
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>oracle 6
>get put up against a trio of faggot smurfs
>fucked anally
>rank drops to oracle 4
kill yourself yoshi
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they did not
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Memes aside, all of the females in this game don't appeal to me, a white man with taste and high t levels.
Paige is especially disappointing. Someone feed that bitch a burger or ten.
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Its dying
Good riddance
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every patch is like this
>baits people into thinking things have changed
>noped still a miserable torment nexus where games are decided immediately on which team plays together better or if they get the S tier heroes
>waste of 30 mins as you slowly lose
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Do (You) let the war affect your gameplay?
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>I want a proper christcuck chud. give us an ascetic monk who has spent the last 30 years in monastic seclusion and is being pulled back into society for the ritual
No devout Christian is completing an occult ritual on behalf of an eldritch force.
Its honestly why I don't like Venator. I could totally see the Vatican having monster hunters but having them complete a ritual? No way man
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>spirits also means alcohol.
I maybe a fucking idiot that I never realized that when I watched the whole VN and took it literally.
Of course they mean the spirits as in alcohol it's a fucking bar.
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Hello friends, I have completed another Dynamo video, been enjoying the process, hope you enjoy it https://youtu.be/uQz7RY7TccI
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Anyways, it's funny because the whole "is mcginnis a sociopath" thing is brought up in the VN where Geist is taken off guard when McGinnis is hesitant to help Geist because "she's a bad person" and actively points out her inventions will literally kill millions of people in the occult war machine "if they haven't already.", Miku fires back with "yeah but I'm a theoretical mass murderer, you're an actual serial killer." It's a sorta "I made the button, but you pushed it." thing.
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I mean it also could be an amusing play on words and I'm still not entirely sure if they're referring to spirits as in alcohol, or literal ghosts. I wouldn't put the latter off.
>>563706556
There's many possible reasons.
1. Steamcharts nigger that wants every game to die.
2. Rival MOBA/Vidya fags that want their favorite moba/hero shooter to have no competition because.
3. Bitter battered housewife retards who don't really like the game but can't bring themselves to uninstall so they want the game to die and have a good reason to do so.
All three are absolute niggerfaggots and should be ignored and ridiculed for being losers.
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Also here's a non Dynamo shadow version as well
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>>563706556
cause if it does poorly enough maybe they'll actually make it fun instead of this tranny movement aim game and move toward interesting hero designs like graves
being required to spend 20 hours practicing move tech on top of needing aim to hit the movement trannies is just too much man
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I feel kinda evil playing spirit rape Mina...
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THIS is what Calico should look like
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>>563707075
>get unlucky and have 30 more ping than enemy in solo lane
>forced to hide around tower and have every single soul denied while getting raped
2026 players don't know how good they have it, because icefrog really made this game have some pretty intense rape early on
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For any drawfags or artfags in here, I would like your attention please.
Any future sketches of female characters should include this important aspect. More hair if possible. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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its a double sided thing were there are tons of people in eternus that dont know how to move better than a seekerGOD (theres an NA eternus Geist streamer that genuinely has worse movement than my ritualist ass) but theres also fags like eidorian that people think is a lot better at the game than he actually is because he is really good at the movement shit and can disguise his shit positioning and decision making into 200 IQ out plays (which is why he sucks ass when playing with the other wannabe pros that can follow him whenever he shits his pants with a retard play) Essentially learning the movement shit is an easy way to scam your way into eternus atm since the game is still young and most people playing cant do it, but eventually it'll be standard to have high level movement to even get to ascendant
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>>563707313
4 lanes was never gonna last.
Remember the whole drama last week about the bugged souls?
Imagine that except every fucking week people would hop between lanes figuring out how to optimize soul gain.
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Another case of retards drinking too much of the kool-aid and getting the idea that any movement in a game is bad instead of just spastic ADHD crack cocaine wrist destroying jump spam movement that is Cock of doody or bastardfield shit.
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>take out all three walkers by myself by throwing myself beneath them with ult + dash fire + tick while team 5v5s urn and i ignore the person desperately trying to kill me
>run away after
hehe
objectives are really fucking awful at defending themselves and it kinda sucks for everyone involved. once you bait the first stop you have like 10s before it does it again which is for some reason plenty of time to solo one from full hp
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they are currently on a trend of playing hot potato with the old characters, grey talon is probably up next to rape people again considering he has been slowly incrementally buffed more and more recently btw
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>probably 1 win away from ascendent 1
>everyone (including me) still feels as retarded as when i was in ritualist
i feel like dont belong this high up but also that everyone in this game is retarded
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>>563708607
QoL, all the goytubers and "pro league" shill for it because they are retard monkeys that think knowing how many unspent souls someone has is somehow the most important information of all time, as if the game doesnt already give you a visual indication for how big someones bag is.
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>>563708090
>implying fur isn't hair
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>>563708836
>i feel like dont belong this high up but also that everyone in this game is retarded
the joke is they are barely thinking or giving a shit, and the entire ranking system is just degrees of mechanical skill thanks to that
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>>563708481
Im under the impression its like wave defense like MvM but there are different stages and the way to upgrade is like RoR
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>>563706556
because people like >>563706851 and >>563706990 are retarded troons
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>>563709605
Geist is a carry, only must buy purple are arcane and radiant/mystic regen, you can substitute arcane for BRS though. Mercurial magnum is also good. Apart from these there is no purple you should ever buy (except counter items obv). Berserker is her best item, spellslinger is also good, healing booster, healing tempo, leech, kinetic dash, recharging rush is good. Early game you want kdash recharging rush and arcane, get your drain to T3 asap for the charges. You want to engage by surging the drain then using the kdash boost to do a lot of gun damage. The bomb is poke in lane and then for farming, its T3 isnt priority but you might want to get its T2 in lane and also mystic burst for extra clear/poke in case of a hard lane
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>>563700000
>proper christcuck
>participating in occult ritual for outer plane gods
Some of you are so fucking stupid it bums me out
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>>563710459
We still don't have an Italian from Staten Island. Trust in the plan.
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>>563692049
>Vindicta is fun to play but she has zero carry potential outside of small emblem ranks
Vin got fucked over by balance patches, she used to be solidly a versatile tempo roamer that brooled all game when she got bonus souls from her ult.
Now she is kinda stuck in a limbo where she isn't particularly good at anything yet still has all of her weaknesses.
She's kinda like an m1 carry, but she struggles to get a lead, can't sidelane else she won't get stacks and struggles to contest objectives.
She is also a tempo assassin, but she is slow as fuck and has no survivability/escapes to actually chase people down.
She is an alright support, heavily carried by stake, but that only really works in teams with coordination and she doesn't really compare to other supports in utility. Keep in mind that she stops having an ult past 20 minutes in the game.
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vindicta is really strong right now you snowball harder than drifter you just fucking suck and/or build wrong
get your early tempo kills and now you have a shit ton of extra damage at massive distances
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>have to sweat my fucking ass off to MVP as Doorman
>mfw half afk on Dynamo next game looking at anri okita tit pics and mvp because of the decision to brainlessly rush refresher and duration extender and still get mvp with not even half of the work
This shit is so lame
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yeah she is in limbo rn, maybe she'd be fixed if they gave her three stamina base (shiv gets three despite his entire kit being mobility), increased her base move speed or flight speed and improve movement in flight (you should be able to dash up or down to gain/lose altitude fast) Plus reduce the CD on flight, 38 seconds for the only ability that keeps her relevant in a fight is ridiculous especially since everything interrupts it
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Christianity and occultism go hand in hand.
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>>563711008
>PULL
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The biggest problem for character visuals in deadlock is there are not a lot of cool aesthetic choices for 1920s Americana, and it's even more narrowed because it has to be in New York. We already covered all the basics:
>mobsters
>old world aristocracy
>noir characters
>weird scientists
>old timey boxers and carnies
They were already reaching with shit like random ghost witch, random indian, random arab, a fucking dream creature? So now what kind of characters can you even introduce who still fits the theme?
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that's the wrong image
i'm fixing my shitpost
>>563710459
we'z don't call'z him fat tony no mo'. we call'z him da boss, see? ya see dat ring rite there? that means he'z da boss. ain't NOBODY callin' da BOSS fat tony 'round deez parts no more.
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Huh?
>spy (rip raven)
>deep sea creature (forma de diving suit)
>pizza delivery man
>fancy suit wallstreet fucker
>musician
>cadence
>sleepy hollow headless horseman
>ballet dancer
>taxi driver
>baseball player
>medieval knight
>chink triad
>russian rep
>gypsy fortune teller
>aviator
>unironic witch
>voodoo nigga
>fae
>a ton of cryptids
>european folklore shit
>wendigo
>etc.
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because you can only have one character of any given archetype
not only are there a billion cultural icons emblematic of the time and of the occult theme, but they can do multiple takes on the same trope
there's already 3 academic characters and 3 demons. creativity isn't a fucking natural resource, you cant use it all up. just come up with more ideas
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>>563711065
Its a weird mix of 1920s and 1950s, but stuff like the injun and the arab make sense for the period. It really was the twilight of the classical plains indian before they became the casino jockies and grey talon's character is very much a play on being a last of his kind, mirage meanwhile is a dignitary from a foreign land which fits for how diplomacy was back then. I think they're going to add some sort of riff on early superheroes like The Shadow, maybe some nod to newsboys and radio jockies, fucking hate how the zoot suit gangster is some stupid negro woman with a paper towel personality instead of a greaseball but they might still add some sort of leather jacket pompadour greaseball since the 50s was about the time those started popping up. They might add some sort of blues or rock n roll man, plus theres a plethora of supernatural creatures they can add. (also some sort of negro cannibal or voodoo man would be period appropriate but i doubt they'll shake that tree)
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>>563711349
GIVE ME A SUPERNATURAL JUDGE/LAWYER
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>>563711446
Dude, the last game we were winning by a LANDSLIDE, but the Dynamo got tilted and griefed the match.
It's always the free mmr mains that tilt the fuck out over stepping on a lego. They don't understand how to defend, how to communicate, and go nuclear when they make a misstep.
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I'm just gonna take Mirage as an example: his entire lore is he's the bodyguard representing the Djinn - a kind of semi-corporeal entity that wants to buy some land in Wyoming. For some reason this real estate deal for buying land in WYOMING needs the help of an occult ritual from two godlike entities in NEW YORK.
How the fuck is that anything but random?
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>It's always the free mmr mains that tilt the fuck out over stepping on a lego
1/3 of my games in oracle have had some dude that rages witthin the first 5 minutes of the game, and will rage the rest of the game. Even if we're winning.
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Dark Willowfags are insufferable
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>It's another my team is permabrooling episode
>Look at healthbars to see if the fight is worth joining
>Enemy team is almost completely full, my team is dying or dead
>End every game with top player damage
Are people just afraid to fight? Why do they BROOL in the first place if they're gonna just blow CDs then run away getting shot in the back
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They should add a cute woodland critter hero that's actually an anprim terrorist
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The day they put them in deadlock is the day I play it 24/7
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>a woman [involved]
retard
the point isn't that there's one person designing characters, it's that a woman is clearly a major factor in the design process
look at how female brained the last batch were
>teenagers from a magic academy
>tumblr sexyman
>walking urban supernatural trope
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Because they don't understand the value of actually clearing waves or splitting their attention.
>broo where is my support
They think they're supposed to be pocketed 24/7 and put zero blame on their positioning. In the brooler's mind, they're just one 5v6 away from victory.
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Probably omeone that summons a ride
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>when your hard carry just wants to BROOOL while the 0/0/0 enemy seven emerges from jungle with 30k at 20 minutes and just ends the game
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>>563712753
i get what you're saying but Doorman and Paige were from the batch prior to last, not the last one. Also isnt Paige's motivation finding her missing brother thats implied to be in some bad boy shit? Just further reinforcing the trope
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>>563712470
Yes.
Hero shooters want the DPS and Tank tied to the healer through an umbilical cord, otherwise they blow up. This design incentivizes pure brooling because that's the point of something like Ovewatch.
These people come to Deadlock, they unironically call defending a walker "PvE" or "farming". They fundamentally don't understand that how far a lane pushed acts as a timer as to how long you can leave lane.
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Parries? Bullshit mechanic.
Headshots? Mechanic that only appeals to 0.01% of the population, 10% of players cheat to abuse them.
Movement tech? Acceptable but remove autistic shit that only appeals to subhuman third worlders like corner boosting.
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your rem?
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Everything about her just sucks, both to play and to play against. Wet paper towel early game till she gets ult, mid game is just jungle farming and throwing ult to split push every minute, then late game she does giganigga damage and applies inhibitor on the entire team. Just such a boring character to play and annoying to fight. Honestly they should fuck her gun completely and change the skulls from their current glitchy form to actually physically attaching to whatever they are targeting, thus making them less likely to just loiter doing nothing and make it so light melee clears them even if the game is lagging to shit. Remove the tether, make it a cone and give it extra range (maybe 30m), reduce or remove the spirit drain shit and give her the double ghoul back on the 2. She should be an ability burst mage not a wannabe gun carry
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A good doorman does not care about arbitrary petty things such as MVP
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>when the "english teacher" finds a japanese schoolgirl walking home alone
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Dotafags be like
>"when are they making this game exactly like dota??"
You are autistic and impossible to please, stay in your game if you haven't been driven out in a self-inflicted autistic rage over some patch
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>all enemies dead
>kill first level of patron
>5 of them get their respawn reduced to 10 seconds
>this happens every single time
>my entire team is dead
>enemy kill first level of patron
>no one gets reduced respawn time
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>>563712153
No green bomb = not techies
No suicide squad attack = not techies
"Reactive taser" doesn't even pretend to fit their flavor
>>563714703
It's kind of funny you say stuff like this while being blissfully unaware how much shit has already been ported directly from Dota. After implementing so many iconic hero designs it's only natural people would speculate which others could make the jump.
For me, it's Doom, so the jungle update can't come soon enough.
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>spawn in
>take the zipline to the nearest enemy icon the map
>ignore all the creeps nearby even if they are crashing on my walker
yeah im thinking its BROOL time. only time i stop fighting is when the enemy is killing my ancient gotta get a good kda
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headed to yellow *EXHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALE*
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>>563711648
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>>563716829
say that again
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>celeste going 0/9 in tournament play
Agenda posters will continue to insist she has a secret power that no one wants you to know about, and that's why she should get nerfed again actually.
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>>563715275
almost every move in the game is from another rpg. dota, warcraft and league are the most repped, some characters also rep games in other genres like venator is defintiely quake guy, the "ancient tool" is the railgun
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>>563717223
Most of the Celeste whining was before the recent nerfs I barely see anyone bitching about her now. People were stil downplaying her even before the recent patch though btw.
In my eyes she deserves to be Holliday tier weak
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>>563717413
Crazy part is that this is easily possible as a custom game mode.
Third person shooter that feels good to play + a fuckton of abilities, items, variable to screw with = Endless custom game possibilities.
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>console mascot/mascot-adjacent slop
fuck you nigger
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I think I'll stay here nigger
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>>563719104
such an ability would have to be an ult and it would both be simultaneously dogshit (because there's literally cover everywhere) and overpowered (because you would see the position of every enemy)
fucking zoomers never think anything through
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Didn't that kill world of tanks
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>>563719379
press 1
press 3
press 2
land all shots
press 4
press 321
congrats, you did atleast 2k damage and killed whoever you were looking at
>its past 30 minutes and everyone has 3k health
you're a creep past 30 minutes
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>also some sort of negro cannibal or voodoo man would be period appropriate but i doubt they'll shake that tree
A cannibal is out of the question but I don't see why they couldn't do a voodoo man. Just steal Baron Samedi wholesale and even Sweet Baby wouldn't bat an eye. It's a cool look.
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>apparent your team is going to lose at 15 minutes
>game goes for 40+ minutes anyway
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>>563712035
The only hero I used my allotted free abandon for almost every time MM put me with or against him. It is humorous to think of how many hours of my life I probably saved not letting these faggots play their chungus raise up spork single player RPG in Dota.
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You don't. Not in pisslow.
Silver shits out damage if there's a ton of small 1v1 or 2v2 skirmishes defending objectives going on. But the game usually quickly degenerates into pointless brools on mid which are preceeded by long wars of attrition. Silver has no poke and zero long range potential, on top of exploding instantly if you snap and initiate yourself. You will always be low post-game damage unless the match ends quickly.
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The question was how do you end up with damage on the post-game graph, not how do you win the game.
By the way Silver is quite ass at pushing with her godawful wave clear, which is another part of her problems.
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https://youtu.be/qn7a5F9oJwo
Deadlock is being mogged by a f2p chinese mobile game developer in terms of fun hero kits. It's actually embarrassing how trash deadlock's designs are they could NEVER think of something as cool as black cat. Genuinely nothing new has been created in deadlock just half assed concepts stolen from other games like dota and league and shooter games mixed into a miserable trash heap fire
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>I'LL GET 'EM!
>COME AWN!
>WHERE YA RUNNIN', BUDDY?
>OH, GOD, NOT AGAIN...
>AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
How do you respond without sounding mauled to death?
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this guy is like 90% correct >>563720532
land your combo on your target, and find targets often. you can duel and fight in skirmishes very well and kinda clean up teamfights but past like 30 minutes you cease being able to blow people up or live in general
you stop being an assassin, you're not really even a bruiser, just some vague idea of a "disruptor"
looking at my games at silver i have relatively high damage but i often am playing with a friend who's a full rank and a half below me and i can get away with more shit
she's in such a painful state currently
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>having to catch triple or quad+ stacked waves because i died early in the last fight
it's hell. actual hell. a minute straight of desperate heavy meleeing.
i think she can push alright since anyone can easily handle 4 creeps
but turning a stacked wave around, fuck that
maybe i should start building some retarded bullshit like alch flask and scourge for the express purpose of nuking waves
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yeah but at some point you can't do that anymore. which is also the point where she tends to become useless. go figure
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>>563721530
It forces a dead walker/guardians and ~3k damage every 2 minutes if/once someone actually rotates. You are not farming player damage by pushing while your team brools. That's not how it works.
The winning move is to accept this, take your shit post-game graph and do exactly what you said, just push and force 1v1s. If you want to join brools, arrive fashionably late.
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>take your shit post-game graph
>your
i'd like to point out that i (original asker) am not who you are replying to, if silver isn't meant to get huge numbers as a result of focusing on smaller duels/skirmishes that's OK i was just under the impression she'd do a lot more in terms of numbers
it does kinda suck existing in bigger/later fights because i'll be kinda sitting at range with my thumb up my ass waiting for an opportunity to hit my combo feeling like there is so so much more i could be doing while it also feels like anything i do to try and deal more damage will lead to me getting pinned down and slamfucked to death
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Didnt know there was an official lore video explaining the eclipse of deadlock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imspRb_gf5Y
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>have to lane janny a stacked wave
>q m1 q m1 q m1 q m1 q m1 q m1 q m1 q m1
>suddenly Dynamo drops off the zipline
>presses 1, obliterates everything in sight instantly, refuses to elaborate and leaves
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@563722391
>point to [Embed] with mouse cursor
>see it has nothing to do with your post. it's obviously bait
>move mouse away without ever click on your link
>use @ as to not reward your attempt with a (You)
I win nigger
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Why mods for this game are so shit?
What game are you even playing?
I bet these people are gonna be the first one to yell that “art style is dead” when paid cosmetics drop
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i hate urn as the default neutral objective
i like the CTF/football mechanics (yoshi let us throw the urn) but as for progressing the game it sucks so much ass
take this with a grain of salt, butlol's dragons and pushing buffsfeel like a much more compelling and easier understood/decisive win condition. even in lower-level play.
whereas the urn just grows a lead rather than being a tangible way of translating it. which in pisslow (every rank) ultimately means jack shit if not paired with decisive coordinated teamplay.
and even worse are its associated comeback mechanics. holy fuck. if you're unable to contest a favored urn or if it turns into a coinflip fight that you lose then 5-10 minutes just got tacked on to the game's length. it's like the game is trying to ensure it never ends. trying to ensure leads and early lanes don't matter
fuck. rejuv is cool though. hope jungle rework fixes the game......
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>>563725424
prefer snowball meta over comeback meta 10,000%
when a lane goes 1/10 there's an issue there that no amount of souls will fix. they could have a 10k lead and likely still be shitting the bed repeatedly
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i don't think so, the only thing a dedi jungler brings to the table here is smite. and the purpose that serves is to cement whether the objective'll be a coinflip or not, barring a multitude of external factors.
both junglers up, at dragon? coinflip. other jungler spotted top? not a coinflip. both junglers dead? coinflip. have advantage but no vision behind pit, enemy jungler could steal? coinflip. enemy jungler got picked? not a coinflip
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>>563725473
The golden age. Was actually beautiful to play. And only set ranked times so people actually cared about the games instead of just spamming them. Party queuers seethed that they had the low quality teammates that didnt care though lmao
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>>563726141
>playing a carry, side laning
>shove wave out
>farm jungle backwards
>wave stacks and starts to come back
>go to grab it
>some retard speedboosts in and nukes the wave before i can even get in soul-sharing distance
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
full-spirit dynamos are the fucking worse for this
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Is there a way to check the rank of players you've been matched with? I've started playing yesterday and after 10 or so games it feels like the skill level of players in my matches has increased dramatically. I honestly have no idea what's even happening most of the time anymore and I had to quit out of the last two since it was impossible for me to do anything other than feeding the enemy or controlling the lanes provided I wouldn't get immediately jumped by 3 niggas who would always be able to catch up to me. It doesn't feel enjoyable anymore, especially since I learnt nothing from those matches.
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You know that if you communicate your intentions vocally your teammates are going to know that the wave is fine and won't crash into your defenses?
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>>563726712
that only works if they're not animals
a chunk of my games i queue with a friend who is, in spirit, a giga-shitter. he is like every soloQ-nightmare archetype rolled into one. okay i'm exaggerating, i still play with him, but he is the model of a "random" in terms of attitude and aptitude
and based on trying to communicate similar ideas to him, of "hey i'm going to catch that wave dw about it", i have low hopes of it going over well
to him it's me being greedy and "he needs souls too"
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>>563726658
matchmaking is fucked and boosters/cheaters are molesting the game atm. just dont type in chat, and leave basic reports like "cheater", "booster" and "boosting enemy" (a lot of your teammates are not on your team)
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>>563726658
best bet is statlocker, it's not perfect but it's better than nothing. if you don't see your matches you'll have to close the game, re-open it, click on each match you're missing, and then upload them (it tells you how)
matchmaking is a bit fried currently. your MMR is super volatile when you're fresh, meaning the system has low confidence in your skill and will give you large swings in MMR while it's trying to figure out what you are.
and even then due to there being no cap on rank difference for party matchmaking (as far as i know, that is), you can still get put in games that have a crazy imbalance in ranks. there'll be a guy the same skill as you on the enemy team sure, but there also might be a dude who is 2 ranks above you on the enemy team partied with him. and swapped into your lane. and who is now facefucking you. you'll have a high rank dude as well but who knows what hero he'll be on or how his lane will go or how good he is at carrying games, or if he's even partied with someone or if he's just solo
ultimately the only thing you can do is just stick it out, take the licks until your MMR sinks down again
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>>563730234
they are too busy calling for mid while the entire enemy team is about to spawn and then getting wiped, pls understand. Its such seeker pub brain troglodytes that pretend to be the voices of authority on game balance and ask for Silver (50% wr, useless past 25 mins) to be nerfed while seven (55% wr, best late game sustained dps) is considered a C tier by them. Genuinely nothing in that scam league made to advertise shitty courses should be taken seriously.
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FACT: oracle and initiate are the same colour because there's 0 difference between the 2 ranks
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I think your characters tits / cockbulge should get larger the better your KD is.
Unsecured souls should enlarge the ass.
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>>563732731
Hu Hu Sheng Wei! You must learn the way of the Dao! Cultivate on mount Dao (side lane) for 30 lunar cycles (minutes) and take the reincarnation pill (unstoppable) to destroy the fools that court death!
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Just add draft already since chatgpt cant into hero composition
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>>563733646
Seven shouldn't get the space to farm, and Shiv, Yamato, Infernus and Sinclaire suck.
So bottom team is riding fully on the Seven 5 year plan, and Piage being pretty good.
Meanwhile top team has excellent ultimate combos for fights, good early game and shits out damage.
I guess depends on ELO and Yoshi's 0/15 agents. But Billy initiate into death slam, petrify Seven if he ever thinks he's allowed to press his ult button to just make him irrelevant most of the game. The early game fights should be easy and just spiral into a quick win.
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Gun Lash is actually fun
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>>563734384
I mean this was my state mandated win for sure, I decayed from E1 to P1 because I stopped playing a while and this same shit could happen in any rank. None of it means anything at this point, sometimes the Oracle games I get feel like straight up Eternus games, I just don't get it.
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I'm in pisslow so that's probably why, but in other MOBA pisslow everyone still knows their role and 'position'.
It feels like no one I encounter in Deadlock is really sure wtf their team role is, other than a vague 'Im a carry so I farm and buy damage' or 'Im a support so I janny lanes and buy support cuck items'.
What are the positions, roles and heroes that suit them in Deadlock?
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>Silence wave into Bola
YUP ITS SILVER GAYMING.
YOU AIN'T PLAYING THE GAME WITH ME AROUND BUDDY.
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>>563734720
It can be, not into that team though. Petrify just turns it off, deathslam to pull him out, bebop hook to just move him somewhere shit or just back down to earth to be beaten up.
Wtf else is Seven gonna do in all the pre 30 minute fights when he shouldn't be allowed to farm against so many roaming assassins? Throw a tickle orb and then die? Hope no one buys dispel magic and his stun will do something?
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>>563734623
How often have you seen a silver sadly swipe at the air as she watches a low health free kill walk away from her? or sometimes worse; zip away.
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>>563735783
i was watching some eternus gameplay the other day and there was a victor putting out about 900 dps at ~40k souls with just his gun by doing a hybrid build, obv all you'd have to do against this guy is get disarming hex but still, pretty interesting how a relatively minor number adjustment in the patch has increased his gun dps so much
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>enemies say "gg" and "ez" to me and an abrams during our 6v2 patron kill after friendly ivy abandons at 6min for no discernible reason (was even winning lane) and the rest of our team follows suit
sportsmanship in vidya is meaningless. imagine playing baseball, watching your opponent's field players and their shortstop leave the game after getting belly aches during the second inning, and then having the balls to offer a handshake at the end of the game thinking it was fair
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idk but that skin sucks
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>>563736615
It's always the retard that got carried who spams ez.
Nigger, you still managed to go 12/10/4 on Haze when your Drifter got fed 15 kills before 15 minutes and raped our team to death. The only 'ez' bit was that you didn't have to do shit because your team carried you to some lategame kills to pad your KDA.
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>>563736615
I'm always toxic if the enemy team has OP heroes and somehow lost sorry buddy go fuck yourself. Imagine being a metaslave and STILL losing!
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I detest the kda or low-death fetishization of competitive games. China must be destroyed. Chinese will destroy you, your nation, your team, while lauding their fewer deaths than you, despite never once having tried anything with spirited commitment in their lives
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>>563736615
>he thinks anybody cares about skill and fairness
This is a MOBA where main appeal is snowballing against enemy team as means of power fantasy against real people. It gives people a boost of confidence and a dopamine rush akin to what I bet some scientists would say hard drugs.
Anybody who truly cares about fairness and skill plays 1v1 only games like chess or go where skill is main defining factor.
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it's kinda funny how oftentimes you'll have games where no one - not even the winning team - says 'gg', purely because of how stupidly one-sided it was
the match just ends and no one gives af, routine and meaningless
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>>563736940
it was a 3/5 enemy yamato that got carried anyway
>>563736968
the heroes we had in that game doesn't matter when it was only me (vinny) and abrams after 10 minutes.
>>563737187
>i don't care about balance
holy tourist
>inb4 that's not what i said
that's exactly what you said. most people would say they care about fairness and skill from a balance perspective, and man advantage is foundational to that.
nice bait btw. made me reply.
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>>563737187
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This post is true and correct and why MOBAs are shitty team games in general and why they attract shitty people.
I would much rather see deadlock retooled into a game with even levels/stats and a set item budget. The itemization system is fun and the movement is great. It's the moba economic power fantasy that makes it suffer. I genuinely don't think the MOBA mode will survive once there are nonrandom team game alternate game types.
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>>563737903
this secret chinese build is good
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>>563737989
You are like a smartass tourist going to a large city, approaching a street urchin with 3 cup and a ball game thinking you can outsmart him because you saw some videos on how to this trick works only to realize couple hours later it was a way of distracting you from second urchin pickpocketing your wallet.
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>>563738115
>I PVE'd better so that should cancels player mechanical skill
>I can't handle a fair fight with balanced stats because then I would lose
Yeah, real "superior" game mode you got there. You niggas are like competitive WoW raid players. It should be listed in the DSM as a mental disorder.
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>>563735003
>seven needs 30 mins to get online
>seven ult being useful EVER
what a retard
and yeah if the bottom team plays like poo poo pee pee and top play liked the top .01% best ever the got it, great made up scenario
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>>563738169
>schizo turkish man yells at his computer screen, fails to build a meaningful analogy in english
what the fuck are you talking about? how does three card monte have anything to do with what we're talking about?
>>563738336
>average middling smash bros/fighting game player autistically screeches about how Fair and Balanced™ their "1v1 hero game" is when their entire tourney scene revolves around stagnant tier lists after their game enters end of life
if that's what you want out of a game, go play them. the moba elements of the game provide a layer of flexible game-to-game balance that give you counter options to certain heroes and knowledge of how to itemize can easily give you an edge over "OP" heroes piloted by novices. it's fundamental to mobas.
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>>563739154
>the moba elements of the game provide a layer of flexible game-to-game balance that give you counter options to certain heroes and know
All of this is thrown out the window because you can have one team mate feed so hard the enemy team gets insane economy advantage.
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>Old Haze ult was shit until unstoppable + items then it's good
>NERF HAZE NERF HAZE NERF HAZE KILL THIS NIGGER HERO
>Current Seven ult is bad until unstoppable + items then it's good
>SEVEN ULT IS FUCKING DOGSHIT
Huh?
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>>563739803
>I'd rather
Okay? Do that
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Newfag
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>>563739154
Its a metaphor you fool. I'm saying you missed the point. The point being that nobody cares if the game is fair, people care about winning and if it wasn't true then how come you rarely hear anyone say they had fun despite losing the game? Ever noticed that its always the winning team saying gg while the losing one just leaves asap without saying anything majority of the time? People only bring "balance" and "fairness" when they are losing but how often you hear "I deserved to lose because other guy did play better" or "I did not deserve to win because I was playing OP stuff that should be nerfed".
Hell, notice those 1-5 questions in main hub asking how powerful or fun something is? How much are you willing to bet people are giving dishonest answers in hopes that character or item they love or hate gets buffed/nerfed?
People want to have fun in this game first and foremost; balance and fairness is secondary to that. And main source of fun is snowballing and consequently winning over your opponents, not necessarily winning fair duels.
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>>563740517
Seven ult is mostly soft area denial, you can also get lightning scroll if you want to get extra value from it, but generally ignoring the ult and building for the rest of his kit is the meta way to play him since the rest of his kit is just way stronger. Compare that to pre nerf Haze that was just an ultbot that could delete anyone inside her ult radius within 3 seconds if they didnt insta pop metal skin, and you can see why people dont particularly care about Seven's ult