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>Recent News
Blizzard & Turtle WoW have settled, official announcement maybe in 2 days.
https://whitemane.org/en/news/whitemane-2
MoP (June 6) & TBC Fresh soon!
>Released Servers
Turtle WoW - https://turtlecraft.gg (Vanilla+)
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (Vanilla World+Retail, Classless, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (WOTLK)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (WoD on Legion client, Legion content coming soon)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)
Stormforge - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC, WOTLK+, MoP)
>Active Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, then whisper anyone for an invite. If you search Evil, sort by "Guild" (not "Zone") to filter the list.
<gulag> - Tauri, Evermoon realm, Alliance
<Evil> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, raids at 18:00 server time
<Branded> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, raids at 20:00 server time >>>/trash/heals guild
>BBC+
https://github.com/ascensionhandynotespoi/HandyNotes_Ascension_POI
https://bronzebeardmaps.pages.dev/
>Turtle
All Turtle addons (copy & paste github links on the launcher) - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
Misc - https://database.turtlecraft.gg | https://talents.turtlecraft.gg | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtletimers.com
>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/9C4nXnUC
>Previous Thread
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Why do you chuds want turtle wow to die?
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I think turtle is closing down so i'm going to roll on a wotlk server. can anyone tell me about class balance?
i've only ever played vanilla through private servers and have never played wow via blizzard or any other wow expansion.
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You can play most anything in Wrath, although there are obviously disparities between any given spec. Is there something in particular that you want to play? Would be easier to then say "yeah, this is pretty good" vs "sorry, this sucks".
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I assume it's 3.3.5. Most things are viable but stuff like Ret Paladins and DPS warriors really struggle until they get really high end gear. If you want an easy one size fits all, DKs are broken as fuck.
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>>563788132
How are druid/ death knight tanks?
Is feral (dps) still autistic to play like in vanilla?
It's a tank or I'll just play warlock I guess, love warlock.
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>>563788320
That doesn't look like vacations in Montenigger, newfriend.
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>>563788710
an ancient classic kek
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>Druid/DK tank
You'll have no problem playing either of these.
>Feral DPS
Different kind of autistic. One of the hardest specs, but it's not like it's brain-breakingly difficult. If you're interested in Feral Druid you'll be fine.
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just ninjalooted this, what do we think? the server is shutting down anyway.
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Shut it all down.
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Back to retail
GLOBOFOMO welcomes all 4channers
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See you all later my friends
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They are not better. Nord population is mostly dad gamers, people completely new to the game or roleplayers. You will find less people HRing stuff, leaving group or other antisocial behavior but you will still find a lot of bad players.
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Seething, dilating troons, turtle troons at that.
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>>563802651
At least my loot luck is well and alive!
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>>563805410 (me)
lol I thought this said Warframe but the statement still stands
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>tucker left an abusive guild of groomers and found true love and acceptance
I love a happy ending.
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this clip cuts off because I fucking killed you easily bitch
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>SANDRO
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there are actual twinks in fucking epoch lvl 19 bracket....
fucking unbelievable
you'd think these people would have moved onto other more populated servers where they can do this toxic shit
200 fucking pop and this piece of shit chooses to twink at 19 to fuck over people leveling, giving the server a chance
what a short-sighted retard
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>>563806928
Why are you being insincere? What's wrong with anything in that picture? You would not see it if you did not have ttrp installed.
It is from some RP addon, you decided to install it and view NSFW profiles.
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I thought xp capping was disabled, at least I remember some butthurt twinks complaining about it
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WoW classic went from nearly 400,000 monthly active users in April 2025, to less than 30,000 in May 2025... 3 months later they're at 3,000 and they launch the lawsuit against TWoW... Coincidence?
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>Wow classic
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Holy shit, that's triple the amount of bosses I thought it had. That must be over half an hour of raiding available each week
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>Ashen-WoW No custom changes
So abysmal dogshit
>Kronos 5 (soon)
I don't see anything about throwing world buffs into the garbage and it seems they still had them last FRESH so abysmal dogshit
>VANILLAPLUS IS MAKING A COMEBACK
This sounded promising so I started watching the feature overview they made and 90 seconds in he admits it's a pvp server so into the trash it goes
>Ascension slop
About a year ago I thought I'd download that to give it a try while I watched some shill video. The man unironically showed himself logging in and collecting daily login rewards, in a video that's supposed to trick you into playing on his server like he didn't realize that triggers an immediate disgust response
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I'm coping on twow
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California
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Guys did the statement come out yet?
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>>563817570
>told to kms
>get rape threats constantly
>told to go back to the kitchen
>called every name under the sun
>always reply with "hehehehe" and they seethe even more
take the hehehehepill
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The girlfriend of the TurtleWoW CN owner is going around on Weibo showing off
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10-19 on turtle is so retarded, back when I played I couldn't finish the crossroads pvp quest for a blue axe because these niggers twinks didn't want to finish wsg and there's no time limit in twow. I gave up after awhile and just did the quest past level 20.
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>>563825324
No Onyxia is live on the server and a pretty fun fight.
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Early gear crafting seems pretty fucking strong, you can get some pretty strong green gear. Alchemy has 2 hour lasting elixers and +25% efficiency so Trollblood for the HP Regen is pretty good on a solo warrior or rogue. Tailoring gets very strong cloak enchants early on and more cloth drops. Mining gives more HP and a chance for Arcanite drops.
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Theyre pretty clearly connected to the party or simply don't give a fuck.
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do you have fun larping as other people?
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>>563812556
Sorry for my previous post, I forgot to take my meds. I've taken them now and will no longer have delusions of you pretending to be someone else.
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It's a good thing Turtle shuts down
Many other cool servers will rise up :)
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Redownloaded Epoch out of curiousity after seeing threads about it. The server has had a lot of bad luck, but I really believe that with population and support Gurubashi would be the greatest vanila+ PvP realm out there.
Though it seems my arrows won't be sated by orc blood this day.
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For a month or so, Epoch was genuinely one of the best WoW experiences I've had in a good while. Was a good balance of custom content where it still felt like WoW unlike a lot of private servers which I think take things a bit too far.
It's a shame that you actually need a dev team for a server to be successful
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I was playing during the original chinkocalypse and stopped when it became unbearable to play the game. I met this cute helf rogue girl from here that helped me out and we had loads of fun while i was leveling. I really wanted her to dom my human mage girl with her futa cock in the blue recluse inn basement...
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More like mentally based. I was too much of a pussy to ask her to randomly violate me in the outback forests and caves, maybe even walk me around Stormwind on a leash while i'm completely naked (default underwear).
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TURTLETRANNIES IN THE GRAVE TONIGHT
EVERYBODY GONNA HAVE A GOOD TIME
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We're going home.
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HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT
[/spoiler]Today Kara40 releases on the South America server
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Any other BVLLS wanna plap in Thunder Bluff one last time before the server dies for good?
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>>563833746
M'lady, here's the report on the situation:
>560 players yesterday, triple than the usual
>Expecting 600+ later today for the community event
>Vibes immaculate
>Kaytotes playing overwatch 2
>Ross looking sharp
>Turtle just got hit with a second lawsuit
>No clue where loli Ony is
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>Girl
>Her
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The fuck is this shit?
I uninstalled the launcher months ago.
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Lets check out how retail is doing
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Community event on Epoch today at 2PM EST, 8PM EU, 60-lvl players are rolling alts to join new wave of fresh players in leveling and running low-lvl dungeons and battlegrounds together
We're redistributing goodies for new people to so they'll have a smoother beginning, bags, wands, potions etc
Useful links:
https://project-epoch-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Project_Epoch_Wiki#Class_Cha nges
https://project-epoch-wow.fandom.com/wiki/AddOns
https://project-epoch-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Project_Epoch_Wiki#Professio ns_&_Economy
https://warperia.com/search/all/epoch/
https://github.com/reneas/AtlasLootProjectEpoch
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There's not going to be an announcement
They are just stringing people along to give them time to move money out of their bank accounts before the inevitable flood of chargebacks from people who bought shit right before they closed the shop
The server will unceremoniously close on whatever day of the month they're supposed to pay the server host is
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I'm going to be the worst tank pochie has ever seen!!
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>>563834908
Excellent job, guardsman. What's the word on our Gurubashi realm?
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Name?
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Name?
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god this is dull
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Because it lost its devs and was in a state of limbo where nobody knew what would happen to it. Now since a few months ago there are new devs working on releasing the content planned by the original devs. Ascension still wont market it, not even announce updates.
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pochie
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Now that turtle is dead, lets discuss the alternatives.
Epoch:
- no pop
- no devs
- not fresh
Bronzebeard:
+ pop
+ devs
- not fresh
- cash shop and annoying spam in all the world channels
- classic with so much + it's literally retail slop
Kronos V:
+ fresh
- not Classic+, these niggas unironically think people will want to play progressive vanilla in 2026
So what are we playing?
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I've been crying since the 12th, please tell me turtle is not kill
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Neither, I'm waiting for Ascension WOTLK / COA until Blizz Classic+ is released
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>Imagine paying for classic+
20$ a month is nothing, you can beg in front of a walmart and make that in a day. That's what I should have done when my parents refused to buy me wow as a kid
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Henwo i wus wodwering if iw shwould woll hwunter on pwochie
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K5 will be HOME!
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SHENNA I NEED YOU SHENNA
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So.....................................when are we getting that............................... ..... announcement?
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Turtle is just quantity of "in your face stuff", professions are still shit, gutted racials to basically pointless, most vanilla areas still lack quests and feel empty, even the old custom content is still terrible to this day because turtle doesn't care. But hey here 20 new zones no one asked for so you can see it's vanilla+, while they don't even fix bugs that's been in the game for years.
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Be honest, guys. Do you think Tauri has future? They are "delaying" Legion for so long... no release date in sight whatsoever.
I'm leveling some characters, but feeling like wasting my time.
Server is dead as it stands. Do you feel like playing Legion, aka the best expansion, in the Future?
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https://changelog.tauriwow.com/?category=legion&page=1
They are working on it every day (except the weekends)
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Kronos V May 9th! Fresh Vanilla done properly by a team with serious experience. No p2w nonsense, just 1x blizzlike fun, as intended
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Its fucking dead as fuck
Even yesterday when we were at 400 pop, there was ONE single person trying to do deadmines
What are we supposed to do, duo it?
Most of those players are either lvl 1 created just to boost the number or 60s afking, because come on if I was 60 on a dead server Id help people run a dungeon or two
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>>563787460
icecrown?
anybody?
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wow leveling past 20 sucks also who wants to do the fucking old dungeons in 2026 turtle was kino becasue it added brand new dungeons.
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>pure vanilla
>at 1x
i hope this server dies
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really based on reading and following these threads i get an impression that turtle players are the fucking worst naysayers, the p servers community doesn't end on shennas server only you keep complaining and throwing tantrums on everything else since the blizz settlement
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Epoch unironically had a lot better custom area and quest content specifically end game zones like azshara are way better on epoch than on turtle.
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>AB day
>20min queue
HUH??
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I don't get why people are doomposting this hard over turtle, I don't see them dying after everything that transpired, it's their biggest cash cow, and if Blizzard couldn't fuck them last year when Amby fresh was being announced hell and back, them attacking Tutie when it's at it's slowest dev cycle feels weird.
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>I don't get why people are doomposting this hard over turtle
Because they lost lawsuit on all counts
Because we were supposed to get an announcement from twow devs but theyre indefinitely post poning it, while posting crypting messages
Because Shenna wiped all disc messages
>I don't see them dying after everything that transpired
The Settlement is confidential, time will tell
>nd if Blizzard couldn't fuck them last year when Amby fresh was being announced hell and back, them attacking Tutie when it's at it's slowest dev cycle feels weird.
Blizzard attacked them because they gained needed info from the turtle wow DB leak that happened one summer (or two summers?) ago, the dev cycle doesn't matter
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announcement?
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Sadly the only way I could see it working would be if someone took the source code and re-released it with another name, branding matters and Epoch is forever stained due to Gaytotes retardation.
No one wants to play in a server filled with faggots who mute the whole general chat
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IT'S A NICE DAY TO START AGAIN
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But it was/is still good though
Point me to any server, private, official, whatever, that can even compete with Balor or Northwind or Thalassian Highlands in terms of design and story.
Even their version of Gilneas blows Blizzards out of the water
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>Community event
>In a sub 300 community
Tis over. The least the devs could do is to improve rates and give some goodies or cook a neat event for the players, why tf should I care for this server if the devs aren't even bothered by the player count?
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Thalassian Highlands may have nice story but they are a terribly designed starter zone with absurd drop rates (treants), high difficulty spikes, many bottlenecks and mobs infamous for being smacking too hard for their lvl and it was already pinpointed many times in threads like this one
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epoch has a horrific codebase though, it crashed constantly for the first month - remember this was "in development" for 5 (FIVE) fucking years
literally the only cool thing about epoch was the wagons (in like 2 areas) and I guess the summoning stones outside of dungeons
i genuinely feel bad for the people thinking they're gonna recapture the magin on epog, you'd have a better time with the pozzed bbc+ server since that actually has a bunch of new content and remade areas(don't play this shit either)
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me when YULIA SAVKO a/k/a
JULIA SAVKO a/k/a Torta and
Shenna, an individual; ERIC MAUSER
a/k/a Shagu and Meph1s, an individual;
JOSIAH ZIMMER a/k/a Akalix, an
individual; STEFAN KOSTOV a/k/a
brotalnia, an individual, JESSE
LAUTENBACK a/k/a Niralthas, an
individual, COSMIN POP a/k/a xerron,
an individual, JAMEY DIEPBRINK
a/k/a Jamma an individual, MAROS BETKO a/k/a Haaxor, an individual, MARCO KRETAS a/k/a MARCO
KAPTEIN a/k/a Kruxis, an individual;
ALEX JULEV a/k/a PepeSmite, an
individual
CAN NOT TOUCH WOW MODDING ANYMORE
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Oh holy fuck that guy and his fanbase are so fucking obnoxious and take his word as fucking gospel
Fuck him
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i liked turtle wow custom content
perhaps the older one feels a bit clunky
but in classic wow there was so much content that felt even worse, and almost all custom content is a nice bonus that you have to work hard to complete
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The first reply to my post is explanation enough
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So no proof?
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I believe the funniest possible outcome of this would be Turtle getting officially licensed, with people being required to pay $15 a month to blizzard to play, and then the server immediately dying because no one actually gives enough of a fuck about their custom content to pay for it and a large chunk of the concurrent player count is people multiboxing which they wouldn't do if they had to pay a subscription for each account.
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Yea except it does not matter because
Night elves are straight up hotter.
Human females are sluttier and plumpier.
Dwarves are better at being shortstacks and have better hair.
But most important of them all...goblins exist and mog gnomes in every aspect, including the one you mentioned.
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my mom keeps pissing on the floor before making it to the toilet because she's a fat retard that is fucking dying and then she uses my single towel to dry it up so I don't have a towel right now so if I take a shower how am I going to dry off stupid
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A lot of SoD felt like WotLK especially with the runes adding WotLK rotation spells for each class. One of the Paladin builds was even called Wrath-like. Even the dungeons they turned to raids had WotLK mechanics with more abilities, phases, etc.and those were the most enjoyable parts of SoD
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>You probably couldn't clear a modern mythic.
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Main factions of /wpsg/:
>Turtle bros: banished to other boards, hated by everyone for external reasons relating to the server owners
>Epoch: Extremely aggressive shilling, seperated from wpsg into epog. Used to top /vg/ catalogs, but now they've come crawling back to wpsg. Spammed "pochie" on /v/ and /vg/; One of the main driving factors behind Epoch failing from high player count
>Ascension: Not considered classic, tried to stand out with bronzebeard but failed hilariously
>Wallcraft: Forbidden knowledge known to few; Owner has been tortured by the FEDs
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>>563860560
pepperidge farm remembers GD and meerkatz clique
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I remember people spammed /v/ with Project Epoch for 5 months straight. It was hyped more than any other game I've seen on that board with exception to Half life 3. Even gta 6 didn't get as many threads as epoch
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Every 1-2 days there would be a thread with epoch saying "Are you ready to go back to Azeroth?". It probably had more threads than the actual MMO general /v/ thread during the months leading up to Project Epochhatten
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On paper, it sounded great. WotLK Engine, TBC Talent Trees, Vanilla World with no flying mount. Pretty much the best of the first 3 eras of WoW.
Launch day, it turns out the dev team is massively incompetent. If you weren't there for it, their initial launch server was being ran on windows instead of linux, so it couldn't handle more than 500 people online at a time. They literally had nobody tech savvy on their entire team. Somehow. It was all idea guys.
Then you get in and... there's three new pieces of content. WC/DM Remakes. WC was okay, DM was made way too long and boring, and some mid-30s or mid-40s dungeon I can't remember that was grotesquely overtuned.
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>death knell given months ago when turtle gets sued
>"ummm so is turtle done for or not? they havent explicitly stated so themselves!"
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It felt like wow + a bunch of scripts. All the new content was just scrapped stuff that was re-added with minimal scripting. Even the raid bosses were retextures with some tweaks. It's probably why you wpsgfags glommed onto it, since a minute change made by a literal scriptkiddie feels giant to you freaks
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hi wpsg, bowser here
we're still figuring out how to say "shenna took the bag" without telling it directly, and we ran out of chatgpt uploads
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If I hear one more "pochie" or "shenna" or "turtlesisters" I'm coming to your house with an axe. Ascension bros with min maxxed custom dingaling classes are the only ones who are alright in this thread, everyone else is an AGP freak guzzling up mediocre nontent (slight tweaks + texture changes)
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>>563861952
TBC was the best class balance the game ever had. Everything filled a niche and mostly without being OP, which is as good as it's going to get in WoW. SPriests were mana batteries, most specs brought some unique buff or debuff for the raid to take advantage of, it was nice.
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>>563862285
Improved Expose Armor was better than Sunder Armor for physical damage dealers, but overall rogues have always been a selfish damage dealing class. Ideally they're supposed to be one of the top DPS and thats why you bring one, because they benefit so hard from all the other buffs, sadly that doesn't always pan out. That's also something of a cherry pick isn't it?
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>>563852435
How do you suppose they make the Night Elf Mnt Dew?
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>>563855589
Turtle devs did not study how the 1-10 zones (which were a lot more standardized compared with other zones) were designed, their layout along with general flow and it shows with how terrible their starter zones are.
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>TBC was the best class balance the game ever had
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>>563840561
Only for Retnoobs who cry about seal twisting and can literally only enjoy their spec if it is complete faceroll which Turtle unfortunately obliged
Good riddance, I hate when devs remove aspects of Classic that are unique to it such as weapon swing interaction based playstyles
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The TWoW era of WoW has the best balance.
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>>563863267
I ran through helf starting zone and I have to agree. No way a non-elite quest mob should almost 3shot you with no other option but to run around his tent hoping to los. Not even teldrassil furbolg cave bullshit was like this
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>>563863892
Dude is either baiting or a legit retard. Writing a serious reply to get a "u mad" or similar is a waste of time.
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What are you doing while waiting for the announcement to end all announcements?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNfZTCPuZtQ
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>>563863994
It's hilarious because the other day I soloed Oakenscowl on Blizz Hardcore, only used a health pot that dropped along with a satyr claw.
Ban'eithil Barrow Den I almost died though due to Greenpaw being a cunt with his instant cast shock and having an add with him in his room.
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Epoch numbers are rising!
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>>563788395
Every class/spec should be viable, but not all should be as easily accessible to play
The 'hybrid tax' should be reconsidered as a skill floor requirement rather than a performance ceiling.
Like Ret should require seal twisting to perform while pure DPS classes should be easier to play, so you don't have the case of a flood of shitters facerolling their way to victory playing le heckin' holy crusader, they need to be filtered
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Good thing he never had to play any of these SLOP failed re releases blizzard has put out. ANYWAYS... whens next fresh???
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>>563869303
which is weird, i am also a rogue player but after i tried cata pvp long time ago and mop, i just cant go back to vanilla-wotlk pvp (especially wotlk with dks just being busted and armor pen meta)
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Yep, I'm thinking pochie is back !
https://files.catbox.moe/yifpu1.mp4
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>>563871663
correct, i recommend this channel, has 2012-13 vods
https://www.youtube.com/@reckfulvodarchive1545/videos
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>>563872185
We're all waiting for K5.
You're not seriously going to roll on a server with one foot in the grave (turtle), an aborted failure (epoch) or is a used up condom (all the others) when F R E S H is about to hit, right??
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>>563872567
>used up condom anology
>regarding vanilla wow which has been done for 9999th time for the past 20 years on pservers
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>>563873130
https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/product/world-of-warcraft-midnight
They made a game for you already.
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>>563873397
You lost and will never be a woman.
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whats wrong with priests on epoch?
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timeframe changed
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>>563869303
TBC and WotLK are way fucking worse PvPwise than Classic, you get pigeonholed into a couple winning comps and there is hardly any variability in builds/playstyles
Meanwhile with Vanilla you have a bunch of unorthodox builds that work in PvP. I play a Reckoning Ret paladin seal twisting and have gotten 20+/o K/D in multiple matches, my buddy plays a Shockadin using the Ancient Hakkari Manslayer (100% SP scaling lifesteal, effectively 200% healing), and of course one can make normal Ret work (Repentance is big) along with Holy being quite good.
That's 4 builds off the top for one class. I've played with an SP hunter who can blow up groups with the BWL trinket and his build is extremely good for kiting + crit fishing.
With the right items, you can make a lot of weird playstyles work in BGs and open world PvP. You simply don't have that in any other version where you're either playing the winning comp classes or eating dirt.
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Fresh from the Stormforge Discord.
FUCK BLIZZARD.
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>>563874792
Balance in Classic is garbage, that's just the truth. Open world pvp is 99% ganking unsuspecting people who are in a non-pvp gear/spec
Arena is at least somewhat balanced in 3v3. I'm not saying it's better since it's completely different to bgs/open world, but it IS better balanced. That why it had a pretty big esports scene around it
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>>563875295
Is this a sign that after the turtle victory blizzard is becoming more aggressive? the stormforge guys were talking to them?
is this unironically the end of private servers?
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Yeah sure you can get gear but good luck pushing Glad if you're not playing a meta comp class.
TBC is irrefutably dogshit with class rep at higher echelons of PvP, WotLK isn't much better and turns into a complete meme with armor pen. Don't even try.
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Who the fuck cares about glad on some ephemeral private server? I just like getting my best gear then stomping random BGs all day.
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>>563875295
Haha, very funny. I don't understand what you fags get out of posting fake shi-
>it's actually real
>mfw
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Fuck these weaklings
Hard times create strong servers
What this >>563875659 guy said: Ascension and will stand strong! Also Kronos, the longest running private server community.
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It is only garbage when you don't understand how to build your character properly. Classic requires you actually engage with itemization which is part of a RPG as opposed to just getting muh resil gear.
>muh gankers
Yeah and it's fun to force 1v1s with them as someone who PvPs for the fun of it, and there is nothing like a hard fought hour plus long WSG victory in terms of dopamine injection.
>pretty big esports scene
Maybe back in the day but Classic TBC/WotLK were a fucking joke with rampant cheating. The Hardcore dueling tournaments got way more attention than anything either has shat out lmao
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>nothing like a hard fought hour plus long WSG victory in terms of dopamine injection.
My favorite was just laying frost traps on the Alliance bridge in AV. Bunker archers hit like a truck and a single hunter with the "frost trap has a chance to snare" talent could hold the bridge forever.
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Turtle. Wow. Is. Going. To. Be. Fine.
Trust me.
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Build character correctly? That's irrelevant when your opponent blows you up in a two crits. I do like battlegrounds though, and world pvp too, but the game is not balanced in classic, compared to TBC or WotLK purely because of the scaling.
Yes I meant back in the day, back when the game wasn't solved and there were third party WoW arena tournaments. Now the only ones holding tournaments are Blizzard. And it's the same fucking guys in every single tournament, same guys who played the game 20 years ago.
>The Hardcore dueling tournaments got way more attention
You mean the streamer tournament? How surprising that people tuned in to watch their favorite streamers lose their characters
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>>563876667
Probably thank them for letting them operate until may and not suing them into oblivion.
Maybe turtle disclosed the terms of their settlement to other server owners and they've now decided to get out of dodged, kaytotes is a visionary who knew.
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Tauri got off discord, maybe for this exact reason, but it could already be too late...
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>Stormforge dead
>Epoch hiding behind Ascension
>Turtle delaying announcement so they have more time to run away
>Dutch is still sitting in his Ferrari teasing 2 more classic+ projects
>mfw
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They will do jackshit to ascension, because it's ran by an actually competent team. Plus, ALOT of their building blocks are completely original. It's like an entirely different game, I would say it's the only actual Classic PLUS project, everything else is just a couple of minor tweaks (only thing that matters is community at the end of the day)
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>That's irrelevant when your opponent blows you up in a two crits.
Let me guess you PvPed in glass cannon gear, got your shit rocked and figured that's how all PvP works.
Anyone who builds their characters correctly isn't getting one shot. Even playing Reck Ret I hardly one shot anyone unless I've got full four stacks and they mostly crit, even then it's not guaranteed.
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>>563877661
I remember when the Classic LoL devs got shut down, they made their own game and it was laughably bad
Most pserver devs don't have good game design instincts, their whole experience being that of riding on another game's coattails
Turtle's original content being a good indicator with how bad their class and zone design is
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>>563877620
Stacking stam is building character correctly now? How is that any different from resilience?
Anyway, are you really going to argue that most of world pvp isn't you blowing up unsuspecting players who are in either non-pvp gear or spec?
Not saying it's not fun, because it is, but it's certainly not as balanced as arena which is 3v3 (instantly more balanced)
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Hello friends, might roll on the Kronos fresh, but since my schedule isn't consistent and I can't commit to raid times I'll have to pug my way through.
What class do you recommend for this? I don't mind any, I just want a raid spot and be able to play (and get some loot). Alternatively, I wouldn't mind just PvPing, but I don't think that would be feasible. Thanks!
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>we dont shit on turtles zone design enough
Their zone design is trash though.
Gilneas, their pride and joy, has extremely bad design. Both the zone and the dungeon.
The zone has an awkward quest flow, where you have to keep running back and forth through the whole zone several times.
The dungeon has you going along the wall and having to constantly reposition the camera in weird angles because the fence is getting in the way.
That's the stuff I remember off the top of my head. Been a while since I've been to the zone|dungeon.
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This private server may be free for you, but it is not free for me. I have donated over $35,000 USD over the past 5 years to the server. That’s probably more than your annual salary. I keep the lights running so you can play fantasy games to escape from your reality. If you choose to be rude to me once more, I will contact my bank and chargeback all previous donations, severely hurting the finanical status of this server and likely sending it offline faster than you can say Blizzard. Ball is in your court.
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>only 4k players online during prime hours on a Friday
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atleast in epog we did jigsaw puzzles and that drawing game also the shitposting up untill the actual launch was great.
turtle wow shitposting i don't know not the same energy, maybe becasue we're not slamming the servers everytime kaytotes hops off overwatch long enough to crank it.
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We're having a great time over at Epoch, come and join us Anon!
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>the reset vs no reset
kino, i remember when the devs said
>it's okay guys we went through and removed all of that stuff!
only for people to login and point out they'd forgotten a lot of items, and didn't he run a vote only for the vote to be meaningless when he sold it all to dutch anyway?
Truly such kino will never be matched.
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Stamina is part of correctly building for PvP, you clearly didn't read my first post with how certain unique items such as the Hakkari Manslayer can make a playstyle work (Shockadin). Trinkets are a lot more varied as well with many one picks up and swaps between for situational uses, Goblin Rocket Helm is big for WSG to cuck FCs.
And yeah, gankers happen, doesn't mean there aren't plenty of players who spend hours dueling outside cities or seeking out proper fights in the open world not to mention BGs, again everything you said speaks of someone who got ganked once then ragequit and assumes all PvP is that
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>My character name is Harrydresden, motherfucker. Activate slow mode. This is my project. Stop fucking reacting with :pregnant_man:...now...or I will fucking end you. Do you understand me?
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700 current players today, next week is gonna be back to 50
it takes such a damaged brain to see your DYING server with sub 100 pop finally get some new people, first thing you do is log onto your 19 twink alt and just completely block new people from doing bgs
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I doubt turtle will go down so easily. US has no jurisdiction where they are based. The lawsuit is an obligation by Blizzard to hold on to their copyright and that's about it. They probably couldn't care less if twow existed or if we're being real. IDK about turtles financial situation but they probably make enough to afford the court fees and keep plugging along.
If blizz didn't sue for copyright on servers like this they basically lose power in courts to challenge people using their IP. It effectively weakens their argument to 'care only some of the time' when it comes to copyright.
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its all horde twinks
you can immediately tell too, all of alliance is just noobies, maybe some person has some blues here, I'm playing a tank and at lvl 18 I have around 900 hp, then a rogue with 2k hp fully enchanted comes and 2 shots me
THIS IS WHY YOU DONT FUCKING ADD XP TO BGS
and if you do YOU CANT FUCKING ADD AN OPTION TO DISABLE IT
these ACTUAL niggers deserve to play on a barren 10 pop server see how they like the results of their actions
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How realistic is it that they can take down warmane/ascension? I have no interest in playing on either of them but if these 2 are gone then private servers are basically over, for good.
We may be facing the biggest shift in private server history.
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Epoch BGs have sucked ever since they added the HP buff ON TOP of resilience on gear
Fuck health sponge PvP where healers get catered to because they can't press anything other than spam heal, if I want that I'd play Retail
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>>563886225
>dood this house stretched vertically to 2x size with the 13 foot doorway looks sooo good doood please like my youtube short about how epic and nostalgic this is BLIZZARD HIRE THIS MAN
fuck off
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They'd probably have wanted both dungeons being remade to be experienceable by either faction, even if it's a bit out of the way
WC fits great. The other dungeon should probably have been something like BFD
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Fantasy races are the NPCs for the humans to gawk at, ie Narnia and how many other fantasy stories
Anyone thinking that them playing a fantasy race makes them more special-er is NPC-brained who doesn't understand they are just there for the human chad's enjoyment
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>login
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>you can download the game