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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
/sthg/ #9246 - Eggman Dies Edition
==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
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>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
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==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 22 April 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026
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Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 10 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 24 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - Summer 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026
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I headcanon that Eggman "accidentally" created Sonic by testing an atomic bomb on or near Christmas Island and that's why Eggman treats Sonic almost like an estranged son in some Sonic X scenes because he knows he did it
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That was cute, thanks.
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>>563891291
>people want arcs. They want heroes that grow. They want villains that get killed. They want sacrifices to be made
I've long thought that we need something like "Ultimate Marvel" for the Sonic franchise. A separate continuity that allows for more permanency and consistency
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Wave Rouge Rivalry
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My favorite type of posts in /sthg/ threads
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Rape the Eggman
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It’s invention day
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you're right, siblingshits, AmyxMetal now since you hate Sonamy
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>>563893212
I hated her voice direction in Frontiers. It was the worst.
>>563893212
I liked Jason Griffith's Shadow because he made Shadow sound intimidating and mysterious but David Humphrey was really good to. Jason's Shadow is just David's Shadow but with a breathy timbre
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>SEGA is one of Japan's most progressive companies, given the shitstorm auto-translation is doing rn
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Silly hedgehog, you can't rape the willing
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>>563894070
They started doing that with SA1. If anything it's Sonic Team's fault for creating certain expectations, trying different things, and then failing to deliver that has created such a division in the fans of what is desired from the franchise
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Douge
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Would Maria do this for Shadow?
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>>563894372
This art makes Starfire look like Blaze's stand, obviously referencing the hit comic Diesel.
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Most people say he called Sonic a playboy, but Naka said Amy makes Sonic look like a "Nanpa" which depending on the context is just a flirty person or a whore or a harem lead.
So Naka basically accuses Amy of doing to Sonic what Archie did.
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Amy!!
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>>563894615
What are your thoughts on the Paramount Sonic? A lot of fans feel it truly captures the edgy dark age vibes they miss from the franchise and believe it is the direction the series should go in.
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Sonamyfags just want Archienic. Naka said Sonic isn't a flirt, it's very simple get over it holy shit. Waaah waaah what about my shipping. You are fucking retarded, the character you fell in love with isn't compatible with shipping. The guy who was in charge of the series for its best years said he doesn't like the idea of Sonic being a flirt.
This is so annoying oh my god. Sonamyfags will be the first people to tell you that Archienic is OOC but they'll cry because the japanese man also agrees that Sonic shouldn't have a girlfriend.
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I like Paramount Sonic because it does indeed capture the edgy dark age vibes from the 2000s. This is the direction the franchise needs to go in. Imagine how good Sonic Prime and IDW would've been if they had this direction and proper supervision from Sonic Team.
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Naka: My character doesn't care about romance
Also Naka: Let's end this game with Sonic being rescued by Tails, while a love song plays in the background.
https://youtu.be/Ie7-MRFv79U?si=O1-6hM3YEHf-V4FN
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>>563895610
The only thing wrong with the paremount movies is the parent stuff. That's just so corny I can' even enjoy it for its sincerity. I have no idea what they were thinking. Just let Sonic be friends with the guy damn.
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There's a Peanuts special called "Is This Goodbye, Charlie Brown?" where the plot is that Linus and Lucy's dad gets a new job in another town and they have to move away. Schroeder, who Lucy was always crushing on and pestering, is initially kind of happy about it but after it sinks in and he starts playing his piano for the first time without Lucy sitting on the edge, he starts thinking about her and realizes that he really did like her back and misses her.
If SEGA or Ian insist on "maturing" Amy so that she isn't chasing after Sonic anymore. I'd at least would like something with this energy from Sonic's perspective. Like how does he feel about Amy moving on from him like that? They hint at it in Frontiers with the "should have made up my mind sooner" but I want more development on that. But I know that wont happen
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>>563896139
FUCK YOU
LUCY IS FOR CHARLIE
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I thought the implication was that Sonic likes Amy better now that she stopped trying to date him, since he invites her along on adventures now and even asks if she wants to go out to eat. It seems like as long as it's platonic Sonic is cool with her. That's what I get from IDW and Frontiers at least.
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You're not just painfully mid on burning (what the fuck do you mean it's just phrases retard, of course we're talking on just phrases), but you have the audacity to assume I'm just as obsessed on a kids stagnant comic about weekly monster.
Tragic.
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Starving for Tenrec pussy
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Cheerleader
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>>563896308
She's Schroeder's future wife. Cry about it
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>Like how does he feel about Amy moving on from him like that?
Nothing. He never thinks of that ever.
>They hint at it in Frontiers with the "should have made up my mind sooner" but I want more development on that.
Bestie...
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I’m not a furry but this is a furry butt
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It's not platonic. Sonic Team and Sega have been ship teasing them a lot lately. It's just that it feels boring since Sonic isn't allowed to take her on a real date nor confess his love to her. Sonic Team's mentality is so stupid and backwards
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>>563896846
Okay, but "Sonic the Hedgehog Triple Trouble" is a better name than "Sonic & Tails 2", better box art too.
Do you think they were trying to make "Sonic & Tails" like a sub series?
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"Woof"
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give me that
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Sonic not really understanding romance is fine, in fact that's actually how I prefer him, I just don't fuck with Sonic not thinking babes are babes.
Maybe Oshima and Naka just think of Sonic as less of a person and more of an abstract concept, like the reincarnated pilot thing or Sonic being "a fairy of a hedgehog", but it's clear that barely anyone respects that by the fact that no one ever talks in-depth about that, not even Sega and Sonic Team do these days.
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>14 years later
Naka: My character doesn't care about romance
Also Naka: Let's add sexual tension between Sonic and a realistic human princess, and have a love song play during the credits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tt5NnAccUo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deyvkq2LZoY
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I prefer "Sonic & Tails". And the Jap boxart actually has the co-protagonist Tails on it
>Do you think they were trying to make "Sonic & Tails" like a sub series?
It already is. Wish we got a third entry
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Women are whores. What else is new?
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>I just don't fuck with Sonic not thinking babes are babes.
Naka said Sonic isn't a flirt "Nanpa". Naka was in charge through the 2000s meaning most of the character establishing stuff happened under him. Case closed, if the the character is flirting the character is not Sonic.
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They make fox squeaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch/9b0XsL2cQ7o
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What Yuji Naka meant by 'Nanpa' is that Sonic isn't a promiscuous pick-up artist. Yuji Naka said this because he didn't know about Amy's creation at the time and already believed Madonna was Sonic girlfrien. The thought of Sonic having 2 girlfriends like a manwhore was repugnant to him
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they moan like sluts
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Soul.
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Soulless.
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>Calling Watanabe's artwork soulless
I've seen bad takes before but this is a whole new level
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Does anyone else think there will be serious consequences to how big the Sonic movies are and we are not realizing yet? Everyone is mad about Ian for writing Archie character traits into the games but realistically the movies have thousands of times more fans than Archie. A future game might be written by a kid who grew up on the movies and change Sonic into that.
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Exactly. They replaced they Amy's unrequited love and longing for Sonic with the way more boring "they're both too shy to express their feelings" dynamic between them that isn't allowed to progress. At least Amy chasing after Sonic asking for his hand in marriage was funny.
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This is Jahmyr Gibbs, running back for the Detroit Lions. He and former teammate David Montgomery were nicknamed “Sonic and Knuckles.” The nicknames became so popular they had custom made cleats and had mascots of the two appear at a Thanksgiving game.
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Vector’s
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Starline...
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Bad takes on top of bad takes
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Sonic The Hedgehog 3 was a better name. Would that have made S&T2/STT the 8-bit Sonic & Knuckles, or Sonic the Hedgehog 4?
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If Sonic did fool around with women, I'd think of him as more of a heartbreaker than a manwhore, at worst I'd consider him a wombat.Wombat is slang for a guy who only shows up for free food and sex, leaving as soon as he gets what he came over for.
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>>563897565
>It already is
So they were like the Mario Land equivalent for the Sonic series?
https://youtu.be/4b9RvENE9QY?si=4CM3ox0JVPm0-l0c
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>>563898636
No it isn't. Sonic & Tails is a perfectly adequate name that indicates that we have two main characters. This was completely lost in the western releases
It's also good they stopped tying those games to the Genesis ones, Sonic 2 8-bit was already very different from 16-bit. Makes them stand out more
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I am
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>>563895610
Paramount Sonic is just...not Sonic to me. He works for the setting he's in i'll say that but he's too much like a kid and doesn't really have that "heroic" quality I feel Sonic ought to have
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>>563898924
Yeah. It was their own little spin off series for a handheld console
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>>563899249
Why is it okay for Mario to do both of these things, but not Sonic?
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>>563899249
Wow
You're just now learning that he's a hack
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>>563898765
Yes. Every single one of us is a 40 year old fat man and anyone who says otherwise is lying
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What about blobian titties?
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According to Ian Flynn, Iizuka was just repeating what Yuji Naka said about two worlds
According to Pat Casey and Ian Flynn individually, "Two worlds" literally meant "two planets" and not some softer explanation and when Paramount tried to interpret it any other way Sega was very literal about it being aliens
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>This was completely lost in the western releases
It seems Sonic Chaos was actually the first title, so it was rather added to the Japanese Game Gear version rather than something lost.
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>According to Ian Flynn, Iizuka was just repeating what Yuji Naka said about two worlds
That was debunked since Naka found it strange that Sonic was from another planet in the movies. Iizuka and Ian are liars (as always).
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Are we going to derail this whole thread with Peanuts ship wars? Cause I totally will
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In fact, the prototype here was still honoring the Miles (JP) / Tails (EN) split, so the Japanese title change to Sonic & Tails looks like the definitive moment they gave up on Miles for the Japan audience.
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SHE
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Ok this is like ancient. This doesn't count
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Two worlds was pointless because the series refuses to keep either world consistent, best example of this is the human world seen in SA2, ShTH and Unleashed, the worlds look nothing alike, SA2's is almost completely blue, ShTH's continents don't match up with Unleashed's and Unleashed's earth looks more like our own than SA2's does.
These fuckers can't even keep the moon blown up.
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>>563899840
Ok. That doesn't change what I said. "Sonic & Tails" is a better title because it focuses on both characters equally
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He's called Miles in the JP version of 3&K too I think. In Jam also. It was used interchangeably with Tails until Adventure
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Tails can be shipped with anybody and it works
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>>563901227
To be fair, Unleashed was a soft reboot. ShtH's Human World was more consistent with what was presented in SA2 and was probably the first attempt at trying to make Sonic's setting a consistent and evolving world, at least as far as the Modern series is concerned (notwithstanding the moon, which was also originally planed to still be broken but was dropped for whatever reason).
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How about Blaze being a stand for Starfire?
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Funny how Forces and Unleash use fictional globes and then Frontiers just uses the real earth map
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Reminds me of this
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>>563902382
>Honey the Cat after I'm done with her
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*MELTS YOUR ROOM*
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>>563891581
My HERO
>>563902167
That's our superior, consistent Japanese canon that has never been changed or retconned unlike w*stoid SLOP thanks to its brilliant original vision which has never been compromised!
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>>563900957
You're a good man, Charlie Brown,
You're the kind of the reminder we need.
You have humility, nobility
And a sense of honor that are very rare indeed
You're a good man, Charlie Brown,
And we know you will go very far.
Yes it's hard to believe,
Almost frightening to conceive
What a good man
You are.
https://youtu.be/YmXoBBPQIMc?si=V7lw2Y3EyowiUsOn
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There's no fucking way this image is real. Literally none of this is true.
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I mean, the Lost Hex was pretty weird.
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Good evening Anons, remember to cover your throat even when you're sweating outside.
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>>563903929
They've been around for a while.
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Clothes off anon it's laundry day
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Get AIDS
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>>563899087
Reminds me of this
https://x.com/i/status/1972451791062397232
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>>563904472
Remember to *cough**cough*cover yo- *cough* throat w-*cough**cough*
*COUGH**COUGH**COUGH*ACK-
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JAIL THIS MONKEY
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Never.
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>>563899298
He described Sonic as a fairy, which is just him being a mythical being or force of nature.
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Delivering.
Some extra tumm
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MUH
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Why do most Amy redesigns (like Boom and the Movie) pull from Modern Amy and not Classic Amy?
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>>563906992
>secret admirer
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Hey anons it’s been a while
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>For a moment it all interlocks, but then a new pattern of ordered disorder emerges in front of you. Always the one before the last.... and you can't find your way out of the maze you are convinced has been created solely for you.
https://youtu.be/jKLWGY92Nto?si=CdKeq6V1SfErWIZm
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>>563904968
Honestly preparing for them to have Sonic be a simp for an ultra competent girlboss Amy who don't need no man
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>>563907784
Sonic is gonna beg for her puss and she's gonna say "Maybe if you're good" and he's gonna go arf arf awoo mark my words
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You'll still clap
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>>563907784
It's hilarious to me that they doubled down on Girlboss Peach despite all the complaints and then pissed right in the face of Mario/Peach shippers by friendzoning them.
Reminder that despite this and Mario 2 sidelining Rosalina, it still earned more money than Sonic 3 which goes to show that even Mario being complete shit is still better than Sonic's peaks.
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>It's hilarious to me that they doubled down on Girlboss Peach despite all the complaints
I mean it sounds stupid, but I don't think they left an out. I'm pretty sure they just fucked themselves with the first movie. You can't go back to normal Peach after that.
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I'm remaining wary about Amy being a girlboss. It's obviously something we don't want to happen but we can't let our guard down since it is Hollywood after all
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This is a huge "just trust me on this bros" but this was only in the case during the drafts for Movie 4.
They wanted to spoof Amy's old habit of chasing Sonic into actual murderous intent because she thinks he's the original Metal Sonic which is the source of all her troubles on her planet since they're overrun with all the bots but once he proves that he's actually organic she apologizes and joins him once Tails proves to her that Eggman only used Sonic's biodata to create Metal and Sonic had no idea of this.
Now that they locked in Carrey, they have totally dropped that plot point and Amy's movie depiction is very much inspired by Heroes/X/Battle because she's meant to be a comedic foil to Metal Sonic being the serious threat (you'll see what I mean when she nearly breaks Sonic's back by hugging him too hard and she accidentally destroys Tom's home with her hammer by trying to kill a bug)
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They actually had no plans for Blaze until recently if only because they had to look into 06 due to all the fan outcry for Silver.
Silver is still being deliberated because they're planning how to reinvent his character for the movies but Blaze is up in the sky because of how many changes to her story they'd have to make to accommodate Carrey needing to take up a double role again.
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Guys, the answer was Big.
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Call me an idiot for not understanding but how would this make Amy a girlboss? Someone please explain the details to me
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But that's kind of what a girlboss is. I consider a female character a girlboss if she has very little to no weaknesses, is portrayed as psychologically and emotionally hard and serious as the male characters but stronger than the male characters in order to make them look weak in comparison, and belittles the male characters for being weak
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>>563910467
Look at him
How can anyone hate him
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>When will Tom and Maddy disown and start the anti-space-anthro movement?
They don't, Sonic and pals will stay with them until the suits allow them to leave because they're finally too grown to stay at home.
>Who's gonna tard-wrangle Amy?
Sonic, Tom and Maddie.
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Sonic Movie 4
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Too many requirements. A female character is still a girlboss even if she doesn't outright belittle the men but still checks every other box. Just like how a character can still be a Mary Sue even if she has a minor flaw or two that doesn't take away meaningfuly from her otherwise perfect character.
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My heroes!
And Shadow and Silver are also there.
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Then Movie Amy better not be a mostly flawless, hardened, and exceptionally stronger character. That would make her into Boom Amy 2.0 or even worse, a pink Shadow
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Is he actually that powerless?
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I want to do things
At least I think I do
But I don't do them
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Have you tried to "Just do it" like the little Nike advertisement on Knuckles' chest says to?
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It's not that simple
There's when, where, how and why
I get stuck at why
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>Sallyfags
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Sonamyfags don't seem to understand this so I will break it down
Naoto Oshima and Yuji Naka created Sonic together. You following?
Then, Sonic Adventure came out. This is the first game where Sonic talks a lot. That clear?
Now, Yuji Naka does not want Sonic to be in love with anybody. This is a simple concept right?
Oh, Oshima was alright with Sonamy but he also stopped working on Sonic with Sonic Adventure. He did not work on any other game where Sonic speaks. You with me now?
That means that from 1999 to 2006, Yuji Naka was in charge of Sonic Team and Naoto Oshima was not. Simple right?
Do you notice anything about those years? 1999 to 2006? Oh right! That's the Adventure Era. The time when all of the character personalities were being established. Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow and your beloved Amy all get their personalities from this time period.
Modern Sonic things just desperately try to recapture this era after a decade of hiding from it, that's common knowledge right?
Now, with Yuji Naka in charge throughout the 2000s, that meant that there was 0% chance that Amy ever ends up with Sonic during the most important era of Sonic writing. Don't you think that has consequences?
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>What if sonails but straight and Tails was a rebellious teenage fox girl who still got a tragic backstory
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>>563914850
As I guess what you would call a Sonamyfag i'm fine with this. I'm not the kind of shipper that needs there to be an endgame. And plus Sonic and Amy getting married would be boring anyway, I prefer the chase honestly.
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They were the first.
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I remember there being another redraw of this panel by Yardley. Anyone remember which issue?
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Sonurge is beatiful
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I made my drawing of Tikal look like Shadow now. It was supposed to be a recolor but I didn't have ideas.
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if Sonic and Amy aren't going to be endgame, then there is no point in dropping the hints and ship teases.
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That's why I'm worried. Boom Amy was the worst Amy. No wonder fan artists have to give Boom Amy the personality of regular Amy in order for the fan art to look good.
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Wtf??? So lame of that guy to jump they weren't expecting her to fight back
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Have a goodnight