>>2028006 >What are we all up to? I just got into Canifis, so Nature Spirit. I'll probably be training my agility up later, then focusing on combat since Kalphite Queen is the next update
>>2028095 Very curious how an 04 KQ fight will look like, I assume there's almost no shot in clearing her without an army of noobs poking away with their dlongs
>>2029745 This. Reminder that 2004scape, after years of development, will stop at 2006. Vscape will always have 2007 content up until GE ignoring buy-x because there is not enough data to justify adding it in accurately.
>>2029745 >>2030528 You're advertising vscape on a thread with 5 other people and half of them have already play it. Put your efforts elsewhere if you want players
>>2031717 >Any major updates in 2004 that drastically change the game from the launch version? Flax picking update >Throne of Miscellania comes out somewhere in this year right? Throne of Miscellania was late November
>>2032668 Naw, the server doesn't update at the same pace as actual RS since it's a few guys working in their spare time. We'll get KQ as the next update probably in December and Miscellania sometime early next year
>server pop drops off significantly after the rare event people really are just waiting for the slayer update to drop, aren't they? Too bad it's about a year off at this rate
>>2036624 Plain 2004 feels very much like f2p+ rather than a full blown members world. You get just enough content to feel like you're a step above f2p but not enough to really bring out the strengths of the game. Pretty cool though I'm still enjoying it. Also, with almost no make-all you can't retain a big chunk of the casual playerbase as their afk options are quite limited.
I was mining ess and suspected a bot. I door slammed them from leaving, they sat for a minute and then eventually teled back to mine more ess with a fully inventory.
>>2037013 did you do that to me??? i was blitzed mining ess, thought i already banked since i was still standing at aubury, then teled back in with a full inv and was so confused
>>2038465 the server was pozzed since day 1 >troon mods >banning door closers >banning players who spoke against moderators then they added verification requirements via discord (?!?!?!) and inauthentic ways to get rares like its a gacha or some shit (?!?!?!?!?!?!)
If you speak to why people here don't want to play Vscape, its because "they are muh toxic".
Thoughts on herb grinding? What is the go-to spot for getting a good amount of these in 04?
Chaos druids so far have been very generous, I was also trying men in lumbridge & edgeville with their added bonus of easy clues but the lack of gem drop table kinda sucks. Anyone tried other spots like Tribesmen, Thugs or Jogres? Any good place I'm still missing?
>>2043676 Experience the game mostly as it was in 2007 Active devs with dedicated server hosting - 99.9% uptime No Grand Exchange 2.25xp rate - Less grind allows you to progress faster Access to all content - Free forever! Explore Gielinor just like a member No donator benefits - Only your in game wealth matters. Nobody can pay for an advantage 122 quests - 248 Quest Points available, fully scripted and working! God Wars Dungeon, Fight Caves, Barrows, Treasure Trails, Pest Control, Barbarian Assault, Temple Trekking and much more!
>>2039177 >If you speak to why people here don't want to play Vscape, its because "they are muh toxic". I'm more interested in preservation projects than closed-source private servers. Period-correct gamer toxicity etc. sounds fun otherwise.
>stracti still undetected >pretty sure I must have the most rune ess on the server atm How the fuck is this account still going bros? Troons can't into detection?
>>2083138 there are options to make it exactly like 2007 you speng. you control the buttons you click.
also, preservation project with discord verification, rares given out like anti-macro events, twitch streamer specific changes, tranny mods, bugs not present in og game, guessed at rates for skills.... lol?
are private servers risky? i wanna play 2006scape, vidyascape, 2009scape, darkan, and many more. are keyloggers a meme or do private servers fr just steal ur shit lol
>>2107638 i unironically played darkan but they all pissed me off so i spammed the n word 40 times and then i went on 2009scape but i forgot i used the same username and they ip banned me. gg...
>>2107638 You can examine the code of any of the FOSS projects and assess whether or not it looks like a keylogger. The general consensus seems to be that these publicly auditable games are safe.
>>2110139 >give me [...] 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 with no updates, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012 (before eoc and mtx) >am i the only person who wants all of the old game iterations preserved? check this out, nigger: https://rs-archive.github.io/
>>2110306 check this out nigger: those are uni ronically just archives of the game assets. like navigating to a folder of a steam install and being like wow the game is preserved because i have these files of the game models : ) better put them on my hard disk drive to keep safe!!
>>2110139 Jagex probably doesn't even have copies of those old versions themselves.
Brits apparently can preserve 1000 year old artifacts, paintings and other historical stuff, but shit the bed when it comes to media. Fuck the britbongs.
>>2110517 >probably doesn't Even though version control was invented in America decades prior to Classic Jagex didn't use it until 2012. OSRS only exists because they're bad enough at preservation that they misplaced a 2007 backup tape before they had the chance to overwrite it and then rediscovered it years later. >It’s known they did not have traditional source control until 2012 and on. There were supposedly tape backups taken on regular intervals, but those are gone. OSRS was restored from a full tape backup they managed to find. >Before that, Jagex worked out of 3 folders: WIP, RC, and LIVE. Developers recorded the files they edited in WIP, and an Upload Manager copied them into RC manually using best judgement as needed. After testing, RC became LIVE. >In simpler terms, the game was constantly being overwritten with no automated change logs to track versions or rewind history. https://lostcity.rs/t/faq-what-is-lost-city/16 >Jagex unfortunately didn't start keeping systemic backups until 2012, with RuneScape Classic and the OSRS source code being the only exceptions. https://rs-archive.github.io/faq.html >Fuck the britbongs. Most of the good ones left for America generations ago or died in the World Wars.
>>2110425 >>2110377 Projects in line with those archival efforts allow for functional private servers. While there may not currently be the exact 20xxScape variant which tickles your 'tism the RuneScape Archive, Lost City, etc. will be what makes it happen eventually. You can increase the likelihood of these projects succeeding by making high quality contributions.
>>2111293 >Projects in line with those archival efforts allow for functional private servers ?? do you know why 2004scape is the only project "in line" with that site? because it took literal years to even have a working prototype of a game made from scratch.
and now its worthless shit tainted by trannies and discord. give it up, RS will never be preserved unless jagex themselves releases that 07 backup
>>2111959 >?? do you know why 2004scape is the only project "in line" with that site? It's not, e.g. 2009scape and OpenRSC. >2004scape is[...] shit tainted by trannies and discord. Host your own instance with chuds and matrix. >give it up, RS will never be preserved unless jagex themselves releases that 07 backup If everyone were a whiny doomer like you nobody would ever do anything worthwhile or interesting.
>>2112346 >>>>2009scape LMAO one time i went to look at their open source and saw a nested block of code like 15 indents deep. only thing thats preserving is the retardation of RSPS "devs"
>Currently, we’ve finished: >Brimhaven Agility Arena >Chompy Hats >Agility potions, Super restore potions, Energy potions, Magic potions >Party room changes (cheaper to pull + clearing junk) >Maze, Strange Box, and Mime random events >Death Plateau Quest
>Things are getting pretty close!
>We have some tasks still left in progress: >Duel Arena engine/interface changes >Kalphite Queen (WIP - Tannerdino) >Troll Stronghold (WIP - Indio) >Quest Journals - less than 15 left!
It looks like it might get released on Christmas at the pace they've been going at
you know what, farming green dhides to sell them for blue dhides is kinda brilliant. when gems become available in your game, try ruby bracelets. save cosmics for orbs obviously
>>2130173 no it absolutely is not, and its not just whitespace formatting, it was like 15 nested conditions either ifs or switch/case i cant recall. thats spaghetti and complete 60iq programming.... W
>>2122755 Update: Everything's done except for the Legend's Quest journal, they're moving onto the polishing phase this weekend
>As for quest journals, we just have one left: Legends Quest >Before 254 can be considered “preserved” we also have to do a pass of polishing: re-testing everything we added/changed, and trying to find anything we missed or overlooked. This’ll take some time but very necessary. >Strong foundations are important and of course we’re always addressing old bugs along the way too. >I’m going to try and get some contributors together to run through things with me on a staging world this weekend.
i really want to play this server but i think it's incredibly strange that it requires you to make a discord account. im just trying to play 2004 runescape lol
>>2125591 Vscape looks ight but 2004scape is more my cup of tea. Too bad it gets like 140 ppl a day only now. Tranny jannies being stupid faggots aside I never played a private server as much as this >>2142239 people got burned out
>>2165916 Logged at shantay pass, might try to get a solo kill in before inevitably getting crashed shouldn't be too hard with it only having mage attacks
You know what, I love this game because it's like reliving my childhood. People min/maxing are missing the point entirely. I love the preservation angle, I love the 1x XP
BUT
I just want middle mouse bottom look, that's the only QoL I want, just that. Please.
i gave this server an honest shot but 2004 is just too fucking boring especially at 1x xp. it had potential but it's just too authentic for its own good.
>>2180520 yeah thats what i dont get about private servers. literally no preservation servers rs server makes sense. it's not like turtle wow where there is actual new content. it's usually just the original game but worse because the staff always suck.
>>2180566 Agree and disagree with this post The staff can suck but if you aren't retarded it's not an issue Preservation makes a lot of sense because everything else is not authentic. OSRS is Rs3 with old school graphics, everything else is dead.
>>2181962 >>2181956 i play osrs, but keep crying about your shitty ass dead server nobody wants to play. I also do ironman btw so idgaf about osrs's bot problem
>>2182022 ok but I have 25+ years of updates, you have to take months just to add a couple. imagine being this delusional LOL. Even Vscape is miles ahead of you.
>>2182032 Wow, I like manually clicking to cook each fish! That's probably why you have a botting problem. Btw, Vscape has 2007, while you will never have 2007. L M F A O. But keep coping I'm having a genuine laugh at you. 2004scape is so ass.
>>2182046 >server up for MORE THAN 10 YEARS >must have a great quadruple digit community since it has so much content and history! ... >30 players online L O L
>>2182091 There is no coping here, and there is no bot problem. You are just upset everytime you type /vm/scape that you see the 2004 thread higher on the catalog than vscape so you kick your feet and scream about it and lie about the server.
>played runescape from launch to 2021 >quit because jagex sucks >probably at least 50 ppl would follow me to any server i played i would be the target demographic for these runescape private servers but every time i click one of the threads its just a bunch of shit-flinging lol
>>2182208 it's one singular retard from vscape that gets triggered by the existence of this thread. dont let that one poster have control over your decision to play, most people in-game dont care about 4chan. they care about authenticity which is what actually matters
>>2182208 Yeah its shitposting for the most part. 2004scape if you want a version that will update with time to 2006 (hard limited due to encrypted cache updates). Vscape if you want everything pre-ge with some liberties taken. There are also 2009scape, 2011scape, Darkan, etc.
>>2183067 >update with time to 2006 (hard limited due to encrypted cache updates) They're planning to go up to 2012, it's just going to be like 5x times harder to do with post-2006 encrypted stuff
>>2187448 eh i highly doubt anyone would even want to play later iterations of the game. 2009scape exists and gets 30 players and 2012scape exists and gets like 10.
the reason private servers will never truly take off is because there's nothing here except an art gallery/museum. mmos are meant to evolve.
>>2189901 2009scape has a lot of goofy unauthentic things, and who cares about 2012 this does evolve by definition, albeit very slowly thousands of players were online at once daily playing the f2p version of 2004. today thousands of players log in every week. just think about that
>>2027584 I thought the dragon med helm was considered ultra rare and highly valuable in the original RS2 before Barrows yet 3 people are wearing one in your pic. Am I remembering something wrong? ... Nevermind. I just checked the hiscores and saw the 99-all autists on the first page which explains everything.
If I hadn't forgotten my pre-Discord 2004scape account name and password I would pop back in to take a look. I guess I'll never be able to join this server now.
>>2190824 i mean they are. companies just refuse to do them at anything other than a glacial (as in extremely slow) pace. why hasn't official classic+ happened for wow? simple. blizzard doesnt want to lol.
>>2211103 Fire giants I don't think are -the- meta, just a good balance between money and xp Green drags are the best way to get combat xp and money, but obviously not afk or comfy Moss Giants (seen below) I think are the best xp rates an hour www.lostcitylabs.com/skillrates Worth checking out, although I don't agree with some stuff like nats at 91-99 rc as fire runes are obviously better
This shit still going a year later? I remember making fake pics of the mods threatening players for playing the game wrong and spreading all sorts of FUD back when it was new. Good times.
>>2212275 >Jagex deleted your RS2 progress too No they didn't. You can log in to your RSC or RS2 account right this very moment and still have all your items and xp.
>>2211619 Damn they already have a CML-like site up for 04scape? Very interesting data, but for non-poopsockers it def makes more sense to go for gp/xp rather than pure gains. Depending on how active wildy is you can get away with some impressive auto retal afk methods in certain areas of the map.
>>2212466 honestly just do whatever you feel like. that's the best way to play i kill a lot of fire giants and trade the key halves for glories so i get a good stack to recharge i afk yews with a goblin hitting me when i dont feel like playing
you can also plan around updates since we know what's coming. I've only been training ranged as fremmy helm is coming soon(ish) with rock crabs so what's the point of melee until then.. and with the fletch X update with that I can make all my yews into bows to alch. ez gaem
>>2212485 That site paints a pretty good picture on what most people are sticking to. Chop trees, chop heads, harass guards. Good activities in 04scape
im extremely well versed in runescape ive been playing since 2009 (was born in 2000 but am actually the universe/god experience itself so technically unborn)
i played the runescape classic private servers and its just too far back. you have to wait for the individual lines of text to appear above the npcs head...slowly...one by one. would've been comfy back in 2001 tho!
i played 2004scape and i appreciate it for what it is - but having to make a discord to even play is fucking retarded. but it does have like 200 players on at any given moment which is pretty impressive. but it's a bit too authentic for my taste. i also do genuinely feel all private servers should have the OPTION of boosted xp. 1x with 2004 rates is just not fun. but it's still comfy to walk around the world but it wears off fast imo.
i played 2007scape and it's interesting but the issue with this server is you start asking yourself why you arent just playing actual osrs. the problem with the older versions of the game is there is really no utility for skill at the higher levels. you are just grinding to grind. but i appreciate this existing.
2009scape is comfy and the year i started playing. i really love this server and it has boosted xp rates - but sadly there is just too much content missing to truly play this seriously. what could've been.
2012scape/darkan is in a similar state. it's 2012 runescape with no eoc or microtransactions, but it's missing so much content it's nto really worth playing. it does have worlds with 25x xp and 100x xp multipliers though! which more private servers should have.
i highly recommend not playing ANY private server other than the ones i've mentioned. trust me, they are ALL dogshit.
fucking fix your fucking game like jagex did. they increased it to 5 mins and even vscape has a 10 min logout so no excuse fuck preservation fuck this server
ok i dont like the market being a 3rd party app that also wants access to my discord and to read my email address
it was bad enough having to give that to the lead dev or w/e but now i gotta give it to every random app maker too? or else i get nickel and dimed on every transaction because people who but up buy offers always scam a little
>>2187448 >going to be like 5x times harder to do with post-2006 encrypted stuff again, explain how vscape has all 2007 content then? even dogshit servers liek 2009 and 2012 have it. I thought 2004scape devs were the 'best to ever do it'? and they can't figure out some file data? maybe they should stick to discord and gender identity debates.
how do the discontinued items work in this game? hella sketchy that some people have these items worth like 100x more than the most expensive item on a private server like this
>>2242130 >explain how vscape has all 2007 content then? even dogshit servers liek 2009 and 2012 have it. because vscape has been worked on since 2014 and 2009/2012scape are missing a lot of content
>>2242002 man wtf.. i caved in and gave access to this market site only for some drama shit to happen and for it to be closed down... they better get this integrity shit sorted out
>die and get stacked out in the iban death cutscene >lose all the runes and some gear >make the trek back to get klanks gauntlets >the little jew I saved from being stuck in a cave for decades wants me to pay FIVE THOUSAND gp for a pair now Fucking dwarves you wouldn't see the gnomes doing this shit
>>2242130 After mid-2006 all the loc(ation) data started to be encrypted, which is objects placed on the landscape(walls, trees, fences, etc.). The underlying terrain is not encrypted. The keys are strongly randomly generated and change any time the map is touched by the devs. Tons of keys were never grabbed because the only people that were dumping them back then were bot makers and they just dumped keys for regions that bots would operate in. Most other private servers use a hodgepodge of map data from different versions or manually recreated areas.
Fortunately, though, August 2007(the version used by OSRS) has a 100% complete set of keys which likely came from a jmod.
OSRS still encrypts maps to this day but RS3 dropped the crypto back in like 2011/2012.
>>2267979 Lack of qol sucks pretty bad, you get used to it. Majority of the good content is semi afk, combat fishing/woodcutting. I'm waiting for those "make-x" updates and sticking to the good stuff in the meantime
all of the crafting methods are brutally slow in 04. horseshoe gold maybe? shilo gem rocks? bstaves are a lotta gp but that's as far as my cope goes so far
>>2273021 whoa, do NOT group my post with those other ones i beat legend's quest meaning i beat the game (as it stands currently) that's a big achievement to announce
>>2284844 Isn't this the guy who got screwed over because he simp mined for the guy who made the first Rune Scimmys, just immediately for that guy to get hacked and they both lost everything?
>>2435373 seems like it usually takes them 3 or 4 months between updates, so maybe by august. they don't have a december cache, so jan05 is the next one.
>>2507847 well there is a good chance that some of these people did in fact cheat. they staff say cheaters will be banned and that you cant cheat but this is historically disproven. most rsps consist of cheaters.
now you do have autumn elegy you probably did legitimately get 200m thieving on this shit because he is a dumbass.
if you think 2004scape wont get shut down at some point you are a fool. even 2007scape got shut down recently although apparently it still works in europe.
rsps WILL get shut down if they are too popular and i'd estimate it's a ticking time bomb for 2004scape.
>>2510201 It's genuinely suspicious how 2004scape didn't get taken down yet, I was theorizing a few years ago when it got popular around launch that they have some kind of deal with Jagex. You can't really call it a conspiracy considering Jagex has done this before with other projects like OSBuddy, it's really weird how 2005scape was shut down as fast as it was along with dozens of other RSPS at the same time but somehow 2004scape bypassed that C&D wave, maybe they have a method nobody else tried before to avoid them?
As someone who has actually played all of the preservation servers. Just don't. RSC is a meme. 2004scape is a meme. Vidyascape is a meme. 2009scape is a meme. 2012scape is a meme. The problem is most of these servers will never actually truly recreate their specific era of the game. 2004scape and 2007scape sort of have, but the magic is gone. And you're also locked to a specific year which is retarded if you stop to think about it.
I think RS3 has some fun to be had but you can't take it too seriously. If you start getting an ego on your clicker game this shit will just not be fun anymore. OSRS is okay too I guess. I think ironman actually is the best way to play the game, ultimately, because the GE actually does make both games tremendously boring. But main is fine too. Just don't buy bonds. I would endorse mainscape more often if bonds simply did not exist. I really dislike mtx - but I will say that bonds are kind of a necessary evil as they do allow people to play for free. It is kind of nice being untethered from the USD.
Sorry for the schizo ramble but I think both RS3 and OSRS are genuinely unique enough to still be worth playing. I do think Runelite and stuff kind of destroyed the soul the game originally had. But I guess games evolve and here we are. I don't think it's entirely too late though? Hopefully Jagex can backpedal some of their garbage game design but Redditors love their slop, idk.
You really just don't get the perfect game anymore. That's designated to Jak 2 on the PS2 or the OG Ratchet and Clank. Games that do not update. Don't worry though, I will be making my kino in Godot soon.
>>2510342 if it kept having 2k players would be a genuine risk, but now it's probably just too small to matter. i remember there was some rumor going around that server was safe from this early in beta, but somehow i doubt paz made himself undoxable and/or is in a safely ignore jursdiction. hope it keeps going i cant play other forms of rs >>2512838 or autistic >>2513503 magic may not be exactly the same but 2004scape is so much comfier, especially since fagex cant help but completely homocize and faggotize the artstyle in osrs in the direction of rs3, bots ruining the economy, powercreep being off the charts, etc etc. I say this as someone that has a max pure, I just have 0 desire to jump on. plus my parents never got me p2p because they thought theyd have their credit card stolen, so some of the magic is there for me in discovering this content instead of being overwhelmed by loads and loads of slop on os. I love the aesthetic and simplicity is all.
>>2513602 The trick is the server software, client software, and game assets are all separate repos. Will this work if jagex goes after them? Who knows
this God Foose fella is pretty based ngl. He's been camping one of the mods at the wildy agility course and you can tell hes kvetching he can't ban him for it. Even tried to claim 'sit doggy' is offensive language
>>2527009 This project has such piss poor operations, such a convoluted mess to get things running. Huge glaring issues like wiping player saves for a version change is complete nonsense
>>2527128 I didn't interact with enough people to warrant a ban from chat. I submitted a ticket hopefully they get back to me. Turned on MFA and linked discord as well (thought that was the issue but it didn't resolve my login problems) We shall see. I would play offline but npm stuff is a pain on my OS. There's also this https://github.com/johnson-cooper/lost-city-progressive which is interesting
I personally wish Jagex would just shut 2004scape the fuck down. I'd rather Jagex themselves host this shit. Cannot stand the people who run this shit. It's not their IP and they just don't deserve to be running it. Same goes for any preservation server. They're all retarded as fuck. Jagex is retarded too but at least they are official.
>>2527191 if they didn't take it down at its peak with 1k+ players including mmk i doubt they will now. maybe if they update it too close to the 2007 build they might
>>2548998 i just bought it because some fella was selling his extra cloth for cheap where i was bankstanding shades looks like aids to grind i dont envy you
Alright faggots your project isnt good enough so I will put your autistic nigger asses to work. We are going to make AI bots. The most realistic AI bots ever made. You will have your own private offline single player runescape experience and it will feature bots so real you will think its the online servers. Your premade packages arent good enough. Make me scraper bots to camp around the real live runescape servers and datamine player interactions. I want a neural network trained on real player conversations. Filter out the bot spam advertisements and casinos. We arent going to include the grand exchange. We are going to make the real 2004 runescape as jagex intended. No faggot shit. No kike shit, we are releasing all of this for free. Get to work, nigger goyim. It will be worth it when we are all da admins an sheeit