>>2028315
>/wot/
What happened to /wotg/?
Also when will all these 2.0 shitters disappear from in-game?
They are pretty much sabotaging a tier 10-11 matches with their shit gameplay.

I shouldn't have started playing again so early in the year. I'll be fed up with this game once christmas comes around.

>>2029011
Give it a rest, shitters are always a part of the game

>>2029011
we can't even keep the /vm/ thread alive, let alone /vg/

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Poor man's Tiger II Kuromorimine :(
Also, how's the Panther 88 nowadays?

>>2030672
>we can't even keep the /vm/ thread alive
Last thread died because a spammer flooded the catalog.

How bad is the grind for a new account on EU?

>>2031355
Grind has been significantly reduced for individual lines, but increased overall for the national tree
You will encounter 2 massive bottlenecks, T6 where you will be used as fodder for T8 and T8 where you will be used as fodder for premium T8 tanks and T10
If you make it to T10 after that you are better than 70% of the player base
Even without premium, it is impossible to lose money up to T8 unless you are 100% loaded with gold, however the game is generous with credit and xp boosters especially during large holidays
Easy lines include US T110E5 line, Object 140 line, Tortoise and T95 line (easy to play, but very team dependant), Canopener (you can even ignore the gimmick)
I would recommend you to avoid dedicated LT lines until you know the maps and how the positioning works

>>2028315
i have a friend who played that game for a while he could go on a long rant how pay2win ruined this game

>>2029011
onslaught is sucking up the tryharding population atm

Is WTR calculated from recent performance or whole history? I play way better than before, I wonder how much my account holds my stats?

>>2036974
The moment you stop caring about statistics is the moment your wr% starts getting better

>>2041691
I don't care about WR. The teams are often so unbalanced that you cannot win and after 1 minute it's already 2-7. I play to win, not to pad the stats. But at the same time, stats give estimation of your impact in the game.

I would love the game to have balanced MM, where your WR and current skill rating would allow you to estimate if you are improving or not, but that's not the case in WOT 2.0.

Also depends on the tank I'm playing, some are not fast/versatile enough to solo carry game, while some other are.

How shit is the Walking Dead tank? I already have a Toro so not sure I'll bother.

>>2046417
It seems interesting, it was broken on Lesta but the version we got is sort of a weird Minotauro/Italian TD sort of affair.
You have a LONG intraclip reload of 5s, but the DPM itself is pretty competitive among the T9 heavies and it has a short clip reload on a 5 round magazine, so you get the sort of stun proof/consistent reload advantage the Italian TDs have. It's less a conventional autoloader and more of a tank with that needs short windows of downtime to reload the autoloader which isn't much of an ask with how static the meta tends to be.
Of course the downside is it doesn't have too much in the way of turret armor and lacks gun depression, so it's more of a heavium although that seems to be half the "heavies" in the game anyways. Just not ideal on a tank that has an intraclip that isn't fast enough to magdump and isn't slow enough to be doing peekaboo tactics - by the time you retreat behind the corner you're already almost reloaded, but if you stay out in the open your reload isn't doing you favors and you don't have armor.

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lol
lolmao
coming 2.1

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>>2046417
Garbage when there's a superior tech tree tank in T54E1
Are you going to pay real money for a rear mounted tank that takes 20 seconds to unload a 2000 damage clip... Or play the busted shit that unloads 1600 damage in 6 seconds?

>>2047598
I hope they implement the same battle summary as in onslaught in random battles. Onslaught one is a really good improvement.

Why are pub players so fucking retarded
Why the FUCK do they insist on pushing into the open and die immedietely.

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>cause 15 crits
>reroll
>win 4 battles
>12 battles later, bonus mission
>win 5 battles
fuck off, fuck this game

>>2054613
when i used to actually do those missions for black rock i dreaded seeing the win missions and the destroy 4 vehicles in a battle
they take forever to do for a daily/bonus mission to do relative to other conditions

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>>2055784
today is the kill 4 tanks
fuck me

on the unrelated note, the haxor is very good even when stock, holy shit

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>>2056179
xm69 hacker is cracked
look at the stats comparsion of the stock hacker to what i consider the best feeling guns at tier 10.

hacker pretty much gets a built-in free bond vertical stabilizers on the base stats. after then you stack crew, rations, progression tree and equipment on it and it becomes sex

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The E65 is surprisingly good, the gun handling is what keeps it very competitive
also permatracking borats

>>2057807
It really is good. It's very easy to keep your DPM up, you can skip one reload and just shoot twice next time. With 1.5s lock time, it's very fun tank to play. Only thing is paper turret against tier X. You will be bullied hard. But against the rest upper plate can bounce surprisingly well. It's not broken, but like you said, the gun handling makes it fun to play.

H3 on the other hand is weird. This 5s intra-clip reload is awkward. It's short enough so you don't have time to pull back, basically forcing you to go in, but at the same time it's long enough that you will be punished before unloading your load on the enemy. At the same time, zero armor and huge tank, doesn't help.

I played only few matches, but I struggled a lot to find a playstyle. I think it's a good tank to set an ambush from a far and do some backshoots and unsuspecting enemies. But then there are so many better autoloaders to just dump your load faster.

It's shit to go in, shit to stay behind cover, because you won't be using the clip at all. If you have tips for this tank, let me know.

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god fucking dam it, why do I have to carry 3 friendly tanks against 1 (won) enemy
one even managed to die, fucking hell

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WG used to be stingy with progetto 46 sales, now they're for it pushing it hard hoping to bank off old nostalgia now that protoipo 6 and the buffed panthera p.44 rised up as competitors in the auto reloader niche...

>>2072221
I mean it used to be a pretty strong vehicle, borderline unfair, but like you've said who really gives a fuck with the Prototipo 6 and the good Pantera? The Progetto is still GOOD, but it's really nothing game breaking anymore so why not sell it frequently.

Why World of X over War Thunder?

>>2072807
for me world of tanks was more potato friendly when i had a shit pc, stuck with it since
the 15 vs 15 arcade style held up pretty well over time, since most genres don't go for a competition size having teams this big which i prefer over the generic 5v5 template

>>2072807
war thunder has worse grind

>>2072807
For Warships, despite how bad Subs/CV/powercreep has gotten WT Naval is still abhorrent
For tanks, it's sort of just down to individual preferences. Some people want the arcadey HP bar gameplay where there's room to make mistakes and there's positioning and teamplay and the like. War Thunder is just click on the other guy before he clicks on you because most hits are one shot kills, there's an appeal to War Thunder Ground and for some people it's going to be better than tanks, but some people want a more "casual" experience.
For Planes, it's the reverse of Naval where I can't imagine why anyone would play WoWP

>>2072221
There is no reason to buy this tank when the Pantera does the same thing now

>>2072807
>Why World of X over War Thunder?
Speaking about tanks, Warthunder has:
>beyond shit levels of worse grind
>god awful pixel hunts before modern tanks, my KDR skyrocketed when I got a 4K monitor
>a respawn system that is flawed as fuck
>revenge planes in ground battles, makes artillery look reasonable in comparison
>developers that are beyond jewish, don't think i've seen a single free day of premium in over 10 years
>tank models are objectively better made but visually the game just looks worse overall

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>>2028315
https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/update-2-1-1-tanks-overview/

Mid-january 2026 we'll get three tier 11s, one of them being a new branch as USA autocannon mediums.
>PTZ-78 (China TD)
>STK-2 (Japan Heavy)
>Ares 90 C (USA Medium)

The following tanks are set to be re-balanced:
>Leopard 120 Verbessert
>AS-XX 40 t
>Object 432U
>CS-67 Szakal
>Hirschkäfer
>Strv 107-12

>>2082569
Surprised how quickly they added more T11s
Weirdly interested in the US autocannon medium branch too, the Czech LT branch is kinda fun but ultimately the Tesak is kinda dogshit as an LT. I do REALLY well in my Squall though since I have good map sense and know when to be aggressive, so I'm sorta looking forward to a similar playstyle on a medium tank where I don't have the pressure of creating a spotting advantage and trading out the enemy Even 90 but can just work flanks.

>>2072807
I play games to have fun and War Thunder is not as fun for me. I played since the alpha and still like the planes at lower tiers but they should have avoided missiles like they said. Missiles are not fun, at least to me. Also World of Warplanes was ass when I first played and haven't touched it since.
>tanks
Respawns? CAS? I have to pay to respawn the same tank? I have to grind out several tanks and also at least one plane/heli of the same tier to even have fun. Or I can pay up to 80 dollars for one plane for one nation. World of Tanks used to have a bad grind unless you bought one tier 8 premium but it got WAY better over the years so now I can play the tanks I want, and I won't get a bomb dropped on me immediately.
>ships
lmao. WoWS wins this one easily and I enjoy it over tanks just for the slower pace and less tryharders. People just play it to have fun. Absolutely no one does boats on War Thunder and splitting the naval into two categories was retarded.

It doesn't help that gaijin happens to be even scummier than wargaming and the grind basically requires spending a significant amount of money. I had my pretty nice ten year old account hacked and they would not give me the time of day since I had not purchased anything. They actually told me since I had not linked my credit card to the account they would not help me. Not could not, but would not get it back.

WT wins for aviation by far, tanks are a matter of preference and WT ships are largely ignored.
It all depends on your flavor of autism.

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>>2082597
For me, I'll go up the USA autocannons if they share the same unique penetration rules that the czech LTs have that makes them penetrate shit that they really shouldn't be doing with dinky 50mm caliber shells

>>2083295
They look like pretty solid, large caliber autocannons on a medium line so I imagine they should have good pen. Tesak has 192 on 57mm cannons, I would expect the US medium autocannon to sit somewhere around 230-240 on standard rounds and 280-290 on premium.
They'll both be APCR though to absolutely fuck you on normalization, might be cool if they get whacky HE like the Czech line though with something like 100mm of pen.
I also don't think they're going to be the same blistering rate of fire since they have an "overheat" mechanic which suggests to me they won't have a conventional magazine/reload but instead they'll fire at something like 60RPM with an alpha around 100-150 per shell and after something like 15-20 shells they overheat and lock you out, but you'll be able to fire in 5-10 round bursts and never have to reload.
We'll see how close I am vs what WG has decided to do once supertest details start leaking or WG just gives us a proper sneak peak.

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Who is it? I'm thinking Benedict Cumberbatch.

>>2083641
Arnold, again

>>2083641
looks like you were right

>>2085413
That was a good holiday ops welcome video, I enjoyed that one.

>>2083355
Yeah.
If you've played overwhelming fire they're probably gonna work the same as the m-v-y thunderclap.

>This year well-deserved rewards
WG is insanely generous this year, another free tier 10 branch for people who already claimed the one from September, and we get a decent tier 7 tank.
https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/epic-thank-you/

>>2030902
It died because the retard that made the thread didn't use a GuP thumbnail.
>Also, how's the Panther 88 nowadays?
Absolutely trash

>>2089696
>we get a decent tier 7 tank
LOL no, it has 0 dpm

>>2089696
Nice gibs

>>2089696
The amount of real players must be incredible low that they drop such a gift, game is shit since 2.0

>>2089696
Man, after all of this I'm all out of crews
Hope the Christmas progression comes with at least 4 members

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>>2089696
I will start making more new accounts with EBR to keep yoloing arty, and being able to fund expensive ass tanks without having to commit to 5 hour grinding for 10 mil credits like Jagdpanzer E100, FV4005 and 30B that i can unlock for free from taking EBR 105
Thanks WG

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that wasn't so bad

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>>2092114
Gz, time to farm pub.

>>2092114
black rock is the most fun tier 11 by far, the burst mechanic carries the crap armor profile

>>2094208
I've had a lot of fun getting 2k damage rams in my kr1, but the burst on the blackrock is definitely my favorite of the tier 11 heavy tank gimmicks otherwise

>>2094211
i'm a shitty 2k dpg player and the burst mechanic on black rock bumps me up to 4k-6k damage territory pretty easily
the only thing frustrating about black rock is the accuracy but changing out bond gun rammer for bond vents fixed it enough

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https://worldoftanks.com/en/news/general-news/holiday-ops-2026-large-boxes/

Christmas Lootbox tanks revealed.
The tier 10s seem pretty strong, with BZT-70 having a stronger hull than expected and the Coccodrillo being impenetrable from a distance with simply using -2 degrees out of the max -8 degrees gun depression.

My account is already flooded with tier 10 reward tanks already, so I don't really need to swipe for this year's boxes. I also got burnt last year chasing all the XMAS tanks and playing none of them except for the squall.
Going to aim for the Cromwell Applique at tier 5 and stop there.

>>2094950
None of the tanks are interesting. Hulldown wise the dravec is just better.

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>>2096231
BZT-70 feels underrated by the community. 330 HEAT pen is enough in heavy brawling areas and being able to angle your lower plate to bounce 340 HEAT pen around corners is damn strong.

>>2096288
Except that nobody will shoot that when armor flashlight is a thing lamo

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>>2096531
They'll still take like 4-5 seconds to scan your tank to find the green spots.
Keep in mind this is the same community that bitched about object 279e not having a lower plate weakspot despite having commander hatches to snipe and being buttered to 340 HEAT pen and TD shells.
Even now after the armor flashlight update, the 279e is still considered one of the strongest tier 10s by the general playerbase out there despite the tank aging poorly in the slow powercreep of tier 10s

Well, I got the Canopener line
What about you guys?

>>2096831
Type 5,grinded Canopener when it was released.

>>2096831
The chinese tier 11 TD with the 180 spin sounds retarded, so i'm in >>2082569

This game is on life support, giving away another full line and loads of other shit to get people to play is a Hail Mary, probably because they're such stingy cunts when it comes to credits in higher tiers. WoWS is doing a lot better and was like 4th on Steams global sales list yesterday. Wargayming are lucky that War Thunders naval mode is complete shit.

>>2097184
Honestly X is unplayable. You will burn credits, and be forced to buy them or grind premium tanks. And if you want to be economic and play without premium consumables and ammo you will be a meat for tryhards to farm you. The only way to have fun in this game is to swipe and everything is balanced around that.

One of the things WG needs to add to this game is the fucking bounty equipment counter, it should count the upgraded ones as well

>>2097314
You can play on standard account at tier 10 without using food if you play a hard hitting heavy or tank destroyer and penetrate your shots.
Anything fast firing or autoloader is too expensive for standard account though

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no one is playing arty at tier 10 currently
it's fucking great

>>2098088
They do need to update the economy with booster packs like WoWS has
In WoWS it used to be that if you bought a permanent camo for gold, you got significant economic bonuses for a ship. This means more credits earned, less repair costs, etc. You can still get the booster packages, they just aren't tied to camo anymore since the game separated economics from visuals.
Now at the end of the day a Tier 8 with a booster pack still isn't as good as a Tier 8 premium, but it's close enough for people who really enjoy playing a tech tree vehicle and if you have booster packages on your tier 10s you can play tier 10s without any sort of premium account.
The WoT should do the same thing, if you buy the expensive 3D style for a T10 tank that costs like 4500 gold or w/e (or if you have it from putting in effort/winning it from whatever source) you get a credit boost on that tank that makes it possible to earn money or at least break even on a tier 10 without a premium account.

>>2096831
Grille because you get the tank you choose elited and can select field mods without researching the tier 11.
People I know are picking wz 1113g ft and they like it a lot.

Hmm, Minotauro or Udes 15/16?

>>2098721
I have 100 mil credits and 4 digit numbers of credit boosters on my account
I don't use food or load full gold on my T10s, until November, my only T8 premium was the FCM 50 which was collecting dust for years
All your financial problems will be instantly solved if you stop listening to YouTube fags telling you to load full gold and play with food AND don't die with no contribution

>>2097314
>>2097184
Retard, that's why you play on xmas. 50% more bonus credit, permanent 10% from the dog for first 10 battles daily, 15% from platoon, 50% from premium time, 50% from premium. You are literally swimming in credit unless you play like dogshit.

>>2099137
Mino is easier to play but udes has higher potential.

>>2099302
>I don't use food
sandbagging 50%er

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>drive the newest lootbox tank
>ammorack a heavy tank at full hp
>do it again afterwards
your response?

https://www.twitch.tv/orzanel/clip/BraveAbstruseSardineHoneyBadger-UcLd3mdPYJKScX-s

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>>2102133
>BZ-75 gets ammoracked
water is wet

>>2102133
Streamer RNG.

>>2102188
They told me bz-75 is best, they lied?

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this is in leafbux but god damn

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>>2102615

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>>2102615
my results in 28 boxes
baited by the train animation and didn't even get the tier 5 cromwell applique
at least it's the tier 8 instead of the shitty tier 9s

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>>2102621
it also got me to festive level 4 and 8% credit income increase
seems like you need to spend a lot more to max out the bonuses this christmas year

it seems that this year your friends need to actually login for the christmas promo to get the extra resources

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>>2102621
i caved and bought 24 boxes since i was halfway through pity
i'm going to sit on this and open it tomorrow. i hope it's the bzt-70

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>>2102651
Good luck anon

>>2102651
>i hope it's the bzt-70
It won't be. The probability of getting X in 28 loot boxes is like 3.6%.

The loot boxes are so exploitive to our brains, we expect things to happen in general, but the truth is different.

Good luck though, you will get other cool rewards like silver.

>>2102744
I misread, for 24 boxes it would be 3.08%

Finally got around to playing my E-77 I got last year and wow, this thing is surprisingly good.
Armor didn't do a lot for me (although it looks like it would be good if I put it in a hull down) but the mobility and the reliable heavy hitting 128 put in a lot of work. It plays like a medium with heavy alpha without having wonky dogshit dispersion which is nice.

Don't buy boxes, you cum guzzling faggot whales

>>2102403
it's the best heavy tank at blowing up, sure

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>>2102676
>>2102744
I GOT IT GOT FUCKED

>>2104284
Doesn't look like BZT to me.

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Wargaming seems to be chasing that enormous audience of black women interested in tanks for the 3rd year in a row

>>2105192
Was there a niggress last year? I don't think so. There's a latina and asian but no nigger.

where is the next video, chems?

anyone got the coccodrillo or bzt 70?
worth gambling another 50 boxes?

>>2110502
Not worth it. You should open boxes for gold.

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also i hope the object 268 v5 is worth the bonds
impulse yolo purchase

>>2110502
Yeah I got them all.
They're kinda whatever.
Cocomelon is good at doing 1k in two shots but if you're not extremely patient with the aim and positioning you get chewed up.
BZT has a shit gun that needs really careful management and planning, and it has to crawl to engagements and needs people to be retarded in front of you.
Best tank in the set by far is the stridsxya and there's already a million good tier 8 medium premiums.

If you already have a lot of tanks then these ones are very skippable.

>>2110584
>BZT has a shit gun
Better or worse than the Pancernik (tier for tier)
I swear every time I use that PoS the gun max low rolls every single shot, I have never done the average damage much less highrolled

>>2110588
About the same.
Needs a lot of equipment to fix, you also need to be creeping around by tapping r and only fighting people inside 100m.

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>>2104284
i was initially disappointed with projet louis but i shifted my thoughts from having a good scouting game to yolo dumping 1 clip ASAP at the start and the game started being fun again.
i have 1k DPG in it but getting 70k credits every 2 minutes for yoloing is fine

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>>2028315
ummmm wtf, I didn't get the free 60 days prem for some reason
I got another free tech tree from the xmas event but not the 60 days free

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>>2111239
some of them are locked behind missions, do you have 30 days at least?
i think if you logged into 2.0 beforehand, they're not going to give you another set of rewards under the 'For Seasoned and New Commanders'

>>2111890
ya, I logon for the 2.0 launch
but what do I have to do for the 30 days free?

>>2112205
Play 1 battle daily

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>>2112205
>I logon for the 2.0 launch
i don't think you're getting the premium days anymore

i checked my missions to see if i got it since i played at 2.0 launch and i didn't get it again

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>>2110678
louis is funny tank
never seen so many critical hits in a while

I took the Udes 15/16
I hope this stupid cheesewagon is good

>>2112208
I did, but still didn't get the 30 days

>>2112258
Tanks that can shoot fast will crit module. Every shot is basically a roll module damage.

Do you think we'll get a Tier 11 Conqueror in 2026?

>>2112638
Certainly, judging by how quick they pump out new tanks.

>>2112638
Soup conq is inferior in every way to the Canopener, no reason to make it a T11 gimmick tank

>>2112267
Why did you take a medium that gets set on fire frontally, take massive damage from arty and weak gold pen values

I opened the game for the first time since the 2.0 update just for the rewards, got the ping pong tier 10 TD and played a game but the UI is still so fucking shit the after game report made me close the game

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>skill4ltu selling tanks for charity
>people are willing to drop 1100 euro for a marathon light tank
>2500 euro for BZ-176
>still 10 days remaining
who the hell drops this much money
the fucking BZ lot is more than i spent onto the game over 10 years

>>2116266
>355 eurodollars for the roach
wut
that shits on sale like every three weeks

>>2116292
When was the E-25 last on sale? I've been legitimately wanting to pick one up but if it's been on sale I keep missing it.

>>2116304
Check the past news. You can kind of gauge its return. E25 is pretty meh nowadays so WG just sell it occasionally

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>>2110579
the object 268 version 5 feels so nice
400 gold pen on a turreted platform is stronk

>>2118089
Actually it's dogshit and you should have bought the DBV-152 instead

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>>2118219
i have the DBV but it's annoying to it up for aggressive play and it sometimes get troll bounced due to 330 pen. sold it after getting my campaign missions done as i wasn't playing it for months
object 268 version V gameplay is peek out, slap a bitch with the 400 pen gold for 750 and wait. extremely nice support tank

>>2118273
>annoying for aggressive play
I never found that to be true, with the speed and the rear-mounted turret it does surprisingly well in forward positions and even urban maps, at least for a thinly armored glass cannon TD.

this origami mode sucks dick

Where is my free Blyad Prince 2? Do I have to redeem it somewhere?

>>2118997
holiday ops override the well-deserved award.
i think you launch the game in safe mode to hide the holiday garage so it opops up. at least that worked years ago when i had the same problem

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very funny WG, I will not participate in these cancerous mechanics, nor buy any lootboxes

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I'm sorry guys I pay piggied. Got the TBT and BZT-70 in lootcrates though.

>>2118567
I agree, I'd simply rather not play.

>>2122440
explode

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Love me tree. None of that Chinese crap on mine.

>>2120100
Arty aside it's a hilarious and pretty decently done style.

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>>2122440
how many boxes did you swipe for?
do you like the bzt?

i stopped after getting projet louis and stridsxya in 50 boxes. stridsxya is boring but louis is fun as fuck to cheese people with

>>2122700
Louis looks fun in the hands of a bluenicum, I've been too busy using the holiday ops bonuses to grind out my last few tier 11s to try mine out yet.

>>2118567
I don't like it either but I had a few fun games as the heavy.
If you use rage to invincibly collect and deliver to your base, when you die you add +1 present from your own death.
Won a game that way.

The missile targeting on the defender needs work before it inevitably gets added as a t11 ability for the sheridan 2 or whatever.

>>2122700
I got 90 boxes, I wanted the gold really to be able to buy the Foch in the store, as that means I won't be tempted to spend bonds on it anymore. TBT is pretty well balanced, you can do well with it as long as you stay in the group and right now you can earn a ton of credits even with just gold ammo, low DPM will put a lot of people off but the turret armour is solid. Haven't tried BZT yet but it seems strong. Louis seems like fun but I don't really play light tanks.

>>2123281
>buying the inferior Foch
ouch

When's the next worthwhile bond store tank I have like 30k bonds and nothing actually worth spending them on, I guess I could buy a Tiger Maus but I'm one of those weirdos who thinks it's a waste to buy something that isn't a T10 (but I also don't want to buy a reskinned 113 or an Fv215b)

>>2123423
Just get six rammers.
Surely you would not regret buying six bond rammers.

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>>2028315
I don't have time this xmas to grind out the paper tanks event, will I miss a lot if I skip it?

>>2123423
Tiger Maus would be a good credit and bond grinder, but it depends if you already have enough of them.

>>2123440
Just credits bonds and 3d attachments.
The missions each day accumulate rather than being limited to one day though so you can probably complete the event quickly if you wait.

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just got the udes 15/16 and holy fuck, I wasn't expecting its view range to be that low
what equipment?

>>2123931
Experimental Hardening, rammer, turbo or vent.

>game is still full of AFK camping retards who CANNOT fucking push a flank even if you push at the perfect time with the perfect tank and distract the entire enemy team long enough to nearly solo the flank
I'm so fucking tired

>>2123423
I'll shill for the 268 v5 but you need to have a 5 skill crew, pink equipment and food, or the accuracy trolls you too much / turret rotation feels too slow for aggressive play >>2118273

being able to lolpen any flat armor surface with 400 pen feels great though

Another battle pass incoming

>>2133163
https://worldoftanks.asia/en/news/general-news/holiday-ops-2026-battle-pass/
Looks to be just commanders? I'll probably pass on it, the improved pass 3D attachments might be cool but idk that it's worth the sort of gold they want without even having a tank.

Winter Raid is such a dogshit gamemode
actual nigger tier gameplay

>>2133337
The problem is WG turned these modes into a boring grind.

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I had the absolute worst rng today
fuck wg
fuck this game

>>2133442
not really the problem is its a vantablack gorilla gamemode with dogshit unfun tank designs and it becomes a question of will you end up on the team of lobotomized troglodytes who gets doubleteamed since the barely sentient jeets who play it just pick one flank and drive down it the entire match and if you get unlucky that means you have to fight both teams until one of them wins

>>2133337
Sucks ass but I just play whatever the gay mission I have is then gtfo.
Too many afks to make playing for wins worthwhile.

https://youtu.be/VH7tvZdHW2k

So... just a worse Char Murat?

>>2135195
If the soft-stats are good it might be decent. The tank is good looking at least.

>>2135140
>Free garage slot
Wow thanks Benedict

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>>2135195
>>2135361
the free tank fantome is okay. with the 3.5 second intra-clip reload, it's closer to a char futur 4 competitor.
it's decent at a bare minimum due to autoloader. already seems better than gsor the tank and patton the tank

>>2135435
The 0.38 and 0.22/0.22 is not really inspiring confidence in me, on top of a 2.88s aim time.
The garbage gunhandling is probably really going to gimp what could otherwise maybe be a decent tank.
13 degrees of gun depression is promising though even if it comes at the cost of a gimmicky suspension.
Unfortunately it lacks any form of real turret armor to really exploit that and is a pretty large target for return fire compared to a Char Futur.
Still, maybe I should reserve some judgement until I actually play it.

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>>2135584
i'd just slap full gun handling on the fantome.
bad aim time can be worked around by decreasing after-firing bloom as much as you can, and the important dispersion stat (turret traverse handling) is much lower than the char futur 4's.
accuracy is a fake stat so we'll have to see how it truly acts in-game.
for reference, type 5 heavy also have 0.38 base dispersion but that gun is one of the most accurate motherfucker in the tier 10 heavies category...

>>2135618
>accuracy is a fake stat
True, everyone shits on stuff like the Obj 274a and the T-54D for having "dogshit unworkable guns" and meanwhile I thoroughly enjoy both tanks and their guns rarely let me down.

>>2135195
I don't think it has any role
It's a big tank with shit accuracy, long autoloader reload, zero armor and bad view range
It is just T10 tank food to trick the pubbies, maybe if it had .36 base accuracy, it wouldn't be so bad

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Why do you all still play this game?

>>2136216
As always, feel free to suggest any other large-scale arena game out there

>>2136216
Sunk cost fallacy, I have invested too much time

why does this dead game have maint EVERY FUCKING DAY

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>>2028315
https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/updates/2-1-1-CT/

Update 2.1.1 common test
>USA Autocannon Medium Tank Branch
>Two More New Tier XI Vehicles for China and Japan
>Tier 11 Medium and TD rebalance
>New onslaught shop tank (LTC II) and bond equipment (camo net and binoculars...)

>>2137103
Fuck off WG, we didn't need even more shitters camping

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>>2137103
camo net remains a meme because it only boosts stationary camo, not camo on movement or after firing so don't waste bonds on that.

bond binoculars have some interesting applications. it's useful for hulldown heavies to peek over hills and spot people not using the bush mechanics properly, and for tier 5 to 7 light tanks that don't have access to CVS, being able to smuggle in a vision-slot boosted binos.

TD like STRV already had vision slot option in field mods so it wouldn't do as much for them. the best class would've been EBR wheelies, but they blocked off using binoculars on wheeled lights in-game, thankfully.

>Plays multiple random games
>Fantome somehow outlives alot of tanks in most of these games
D-did WG gave everyone a good tank?

>>2137647
Stop living in the future we're not supposed to have it until tomorrow

>>2138029
Anon I got it 4 hours ago.

>>2137103
Bond binos and bond camo net activate in half the time that the regular versions take, that seems pretty good for niche builds. Could bring a 600 meter view range passive scouting set that still has slotted cvs for maps like prok and mali

>>2138202
Just means I'm gonna know way faster when the redline camping maus on my team has them.

>>2034141
He's not wrong, but the game wasn't ruined, it was that way from the start.

true
p2w started with the Lowe and it's all been downhill from there

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>Give everyone a decently good tank
>Result

>>2139864
Been playing tier 9 premiums today and 9/10 when I see one of these they're free damage.

you don't even get bounty equipment in the part of the BP
fucking hell, the greed

>>2144787
You have to trade your tokens for those.

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You guys can switch to War Thunder at any time!

>>2144845
Same shit, different greedy company

>>2144792
That you get 4 (four) free

Fuck triangles and fuck squares. Game would be better off without them both.

>>2144845
War Thunder Air Realistic is the only good mode.

Tier 10 mm is the worst its been. Absolute retards every game, you get in position and get ready and half your team have melted away in the first 3 minutes.

>>2144845
I hate myself but not THAT much

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AHT-7 on supertest.
insanely strong tank destroyer for trading as it deals about the same damage as a Jagdpanzer E100 on a turreted platform and not too slow.

>>2145173
don't look at this bro...

>>2146956
>reserve track
So it just comes round a corner, blasts you, then rolls back and you can't stop it.
And unlike the 4k5 is has nonzero camo and armor.
Very gay.

Today's mission will fuck me right in the ass.
"Cause 10% of the total amount of damage caused by your team."
There goes my dog.

>>2146956
Need this and the Ashigaru TO BE HONEST

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>>2147152
Ashigaru better get some fat ass buffs because there's so many free alternatives i'd rather be playing than that shit, even with a bias towards japanese tanks

39 km/h top speed is tragic
the gun handling is legitimately dogshit and not what you want on a tank destroyer firing every 6 seconds (not accounting for gun cooling, which nerfs your gun accuracy for not interacting with the mechanic)

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>>2147196
To give you an idea of how DOGSHIT the dispersion stats on the Ashigaru is:

Worse than the big hitting heavy tanks that deal 750+ damage per shot.
Worse than even the shittest handling autoloaders outside of the rinoceronte, which is the lowest bar possible in terms of tier 10 gun handling.
Similar in gun dispersions to 116-F3 and Kranvagn, and the Ashigaru doesn't have the armor profile to spend time aiming in during brawls.

I haven't even touched upon the heavy-class tier top speed and it almost the lowest hp pool at tier 10. If this turd is assembly shop then it's the easiest skip of my life...

>>2147196
>0.26
jesus lmao
what the fuck man
even with 0.2 cooled, LOL
0.31 with that DPM looks promising but yeah with that mobility and that bloom you just have to sorta sit in one place and hold down LMB which is not what I expect from a wheeled TD

>>2147207
Saw two WG testers platooned in the ashigaru in a match today and they just sucked ass all game.

>>2147038
This reserve track thing just pisses me off
Not on this tank, but how the mechanic is handled by WG, why not give it to any tank with 4 tracks?
Make something interesting instead of
>What if we put gimmick on tank with gimmick to put in loot boxes

>>2147412
They'll do a mechanical pass on all the tanks with multiple tracks after they merge NA and EU servers and remove rammers in equipment 3.0

>>2147412
>give tank multiple tracks
>don't give it the reserve track mechanic
>meanwhile Lesta does give any tank with multiple tracks the reserve track mechanic
our devs are just retarded & incompetent

>>2147533
>Try out lesta's wot
>The fucking spg rape my medium tank with almost perfect accuracy (SOMEHOW) every 2-3 games
Did they buffed spg on lesta?

>>2153176
Yes they did.
Guess we know which half of pre split wargaming kept buffing arty.
Nice digits btw.

>>2153183
the digits seem to continue

Are there any gimmicky module choices left after the big culling of stock modules? I remember that there were some stock turrets that had a better armor profile than the top turret, and also some meme stock gun tanks.

>>2154285
Not really. Most of those gimmicks are useless af anyway.

>>2154285
Only two things I can think of are using stock turrets with less weakspots like amx 65 t and contender.

>>2154819
VTU had better gun depression on stock turret

>>2154285
stock 110 gun with gold
stock is-3-ii with the 100mm guns that unloads/charges faster and more DPM
stock lhmtv gun with the 75mm HE pen

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>faggot blocks on purpose
>talks mad shit when i asked why he pushed me to die and take 3 shots himself for 330 damage done
>wah wah report me wg dont do anything
>save replay for before xmass
buddy got some nice family time without wot :^)

>>2136216
Jokes on you, i dont.
I teched all the way up to amx 120 and realized it was impossible to free play tier 10 without vast amounts of tier 5-6 grinding to cover costs. That and gold ammo made me sad. But man it was a fun tank to roll down hills into people.

I have 10k bonds, which premium to buy? I'm eyeing the 130PM TD.
Is it any good?

>>2157008
Yeah its ok.
Good camo, good damage, tolerable view range and speed.
Only really bad qualities are the iffy accuracy and low standard pen, but the heat is really good and doesn't have a low velocity.
Worth having for missions as well.

>>2155823
It's the best feeling, whenever something happens I just report them for being antisemitic and they get banned usually the same day, sometimes even permanently with little or no evidence. Like one time an arty was focusing me the whole game for some reason, I just sent a ticket to support with the replay saying it was a targeted antisemitic attack and his account disappeared like on the Stalin pictures

>>2157008
polak MT is an overall good tank

Should I play the Pancernik?

>>2157065
wow, it must feel great to be a part of the thought police

>>2157561
It's fun to play if you like taming shit guns and can barrel block your hull weakspots, but it doesn't do anything special.

>>2158025
>taming shit guns
Not only is the handling dogshit, it always max lowrolls
I don't think I've seen a single shot above 600 damage in like the 15 matches I played before I gave up on it
thoroughly unenjoyable dogshit

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consumable and equipment discount for the next 5 days

>>2157008
Obj. 268 V5

Should I create the blueprints for the IS-7?
I dont like the obj 257 to be frank

>>2158868
You could, the two aren't very similar except that they teach you to play recklessly with overangled sides rather than relying on the pike.

>>2158870
yeah, well the IS-3 was such a good tank I love it.

The Obj 257 is not bad either but the grind is fucking unbereable, especially when you get matched up with tier 11 nowadays.

>>2158871
>but the grind is fucking unbereable
It's like that for 10 years now, free to play ends at Tier 8 by design.

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>>2158868
if you have free tech line selector i would actually take is-7 for the field mod unlock

all the glazing people have towards is-7 is when the tank is fully decked out with field mods. without them you are playing the is-7 at like 40% of the fun factor

take a look at the acceleration graph here. without field mods you're going to be about 10-15 km/h slower as a stock IS-7 because you absolutely need the field mod for improving ground resistances and unlocking the mobility slot for your grousers.

>>2158881
I don't actually. I used one for the Italian TDs and the other one for the medium soviet line, 430U.

So I'm grinding for the IS-7 like a retard.

>>2158898
it's so over
i recommend to actually abandon the grind and go back to is-3 to branch off into object 277 at this point, unless your goal is specifically the kr-1 at tier 11

>>2158908
Might as well get through the is7 now, it won't get any easier in the foreseeable future.

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>>2158912
yeah i guess it doesn't hurt to unlock is-7 at least
i could not imagine trying to grind out 325k exp with slow gimped is-7 and shitty 310 APCR against tier 11s

object 277 works fine at stock config and you get to have fun using top of the class 340 penetration HEAT

>>2158916
Are you playing with gold?
Now is the time to bank up on convertible Xp and Gold to get free Xp during the next 1:50 conversion rate.

>>2158908
nah man, I'm half way there for the IS-7 I'll keep grinding till I get that shitty IS-7.

>>2158920
with assembly shop coming soon in january / february i don't think there's gonna be a gold conversion to free exp event for a while.
WG even went out of their way to remove the announced sale they had for this month at like 1:35 rates

>>2158921
godspeed anon

>>2158928

>godspeed anon

thank you man, would be really nice if the teams didnt melt in 5 minutes

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>>2073612
Only good thing about WoWP imo are the prototype/paper planes.

>>2159167
I was a WoWP alpha tester and I actually liked the game during alpha but it felt like they just dumbed it down and stripped out all the fun by the time it released.

F2P only gets 1 Xmas Box for free?

>>2160348
Yes, did you expect more?

>>2160368
Honestly? Yes.
But I don't know why I was expecting more from a shit company like wargaming.

>>2160374
F2P is just there to hook you, they want you to reach Tier8 and start spending. That's it, guess why all the noobie shitters get Tier 6 tanks gifted.

>>2160383
>reach Tier8 and start spending
That's just scummy. After Tier 8 your credit income after a battle is usually negatie without premium time, even if you get into a winning team.
And you are just spamming non-gold ammo.

>>2160393
Probably that's why they are adding the dog to boost credits a little bit more.

>>2160393
That's how it is since forever, I got 14 years in this game and it was always like this. You need certain premium tanks + a premium account to earn money past Tier 8.
Fun fact: Arty is the only class which earns money on Tier 10 at all, everything else is loosing money on average.

>>2160406
Wait, even light tanks are credit negative at tier 8+ ?

>>2160409
https://tomato.gg/economics/all/30?tiers=0000000001

Mostly

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>>2160393
you just need to play tier 8+ tanks with high damage per ammo shot, and ideally good penetration on the standard rounds. can't play anything fast-firing or autoloader so that disqualifies all lights and mediums if you want to play tier 10 without premium time

>>2160409
>Wait, even light tanks are credit negative at tier 8+ ?
if you play properly with food taking -20k credits per battle for the viewrange boost, yeah. the only light tanks that can go decently well without food is czech autocannons light tank line

To be fair it's not THAT hard to get a few premiums for free, and if you sink a bit of money into the game you tend to stack way more premiums than you'll ever need.
You can get a free premium from the Twitch tokens right now for example, not that the options are incredible but I honestly like my Obj274a

>>2160430
>Obj274a
I'm 10 token away.
Last time I got the T34, but it sucks. By the time I reach the frontline, everyone is dead.

>>2160430
https://tomato.gg/economics/all/30?tiers=000000010&nations=&sort=avg_profit&direction=true&tankType=premium

Funnily enough, the easy to get free Tier8 premiums are also the worst Tier8 premium tanks to earn credits.

>>2160436
I don't want to overhype it but I definitely think it beats the Strv which is just a shitty Cent 1 clone.
The armor profile is very nice and respectable for a medium, it's pretty mobile all things considered, and the gun hits pretty hard.
The downsides are that it has poor gun depression (-6, but that's slightly above average for a soviet med really) and the gun handling is not exceptional. I actually personally find the gun works REALLY well for me, like it almost never lets me down, but it's not amazing on paper and plenty of other people complain about it.
But it's a solid if not impressive mid-range brawler that has workable soviet armor (300m~ turret and an autobounce UFP if you're able to find the sweet spot where you're using all 6 degrees of gun depression.
Add to that 58kph of speed once you fix the ground resistances with a decent crew and 320 alpha and you could honestly do worse.

I'm almost there on my IS-7 grind guys, time to drop the obj 257.

>>2160447
Yeah, that Strv sucks, it wasn't even a question which one is the better tank.

Also, how good are the upcoming USA autocannons on the T20 line.
I've farmed the 100.000 XP to unlock them on their release.

>>2160504
Impossible to say how good they'll be since there's still room to tweak them.
They seem kinda mediocre though, they had absolute dogshit pen that got a bit of a buff but it's too early to say if they'll have enough pen to do real work on release. The DPM/overheat doesn't seem super impressive so you basically just have a weird autoloader that can "interrupt" its reload by firing again before it fully cools down.
I don't think they're going to break the meta, just be sorta alright and gimmicky. I was kinda hoping they'd have a higher firerate too, like they'd do half the damage they do now in exchange for firing twice as fast with twice as many shots before overheating. As is the RPM isn't quite that satisfying Czech LT autocannon playstyle but on a medium.

>>2160504
High Alpha is currently king, so probably shit and a massive creditsink for gold ammo.

>>2160514
>gold ammo
remains to be seen the final values but right now you get like 18 more pen on gold, it's basically not even worth loading gold since the pen increase is so miniscule
It's also APCR vs AP on the Ares 90 so against anything that isn't perfectly flat armor it's an even smaller gap, imagine shooting gold for a whopping 5mm more pen. Lol, lmao even.

>>2160517
Final offer: 50-70mm more pen and 5x the creditcost.

>>2160523
Hard to say what they'll do but I'm still thinking closer to 245 AP and 280 APCR? I get it shouldn't be able to go through thick armor since it's an autocannon meant to flank stuff but 220 at T10 is kinda lol, at least 280 APCR could go through weakspots/cupolas if aimed properly.

>>2160529
>US gimmick line
It will be shit in some way.

>>2160531
You say that but they buffed the M-V-Y to the point it's actually good.

It's a shame that the free 60 days premium time ends soon.
It was sort of enjoyable to play this game.
If that would be the default, the playerbase could grow much more.

>>2160553
1 year of premium is only 50€ during sales

I've just got the IS-7, kitted it out and played 10 or so battles.
What an amazing piece of tank.

Anons, which tanks are you using for the "be the top Nth dps/xp" missions?

>>2160622
Good for you, I'm only starting the tier 9 of that line.

>>2161103
Mid tier shitters like the E8 Sherman, T7 wheely bongoloid or soup hellcat

>>2161103
I just play normally, but if it's damage I play a heavy.
Had one today so I just played IS7 since I was a couple games off getting the final field mod.

>>2161197
it's gonna be a slog, I didnt like the obj 257 too much. The IS-7 is a significant improvement. Just grind through it cause the IS-7 is worth it.

Happy new year, guys!
I will use the 10% discount for the T803, what about you?

>>2162166
I used mine on KR-1

>>2162166
I have fuckall trees unlocked so when I get around to it (when's the deadline for all these missions anyways? I've been saving them all to do them all at once) I'll probably just take the Szakal.
I'm actually kinda looking forward to what they come up with for the Cent AX tree, the Cent AX is so fucking good now so if they manage to improve on it they could deliver something really fun.
I'm not sure what gimmick it'd get though, maybe a mix of the T803 and Szakal? Each shot that you hit and penetrate increases your accuracy (decays over time) and also fills up a gauge that can be activated to give you a 25% reload boost for 15s.
So you fire on reload, get a super accurate gun, and then burst ridiculous damage with pinpoint accuracy.

>>2162166
BZ-79

>>2162208
The stuff you get from tier 11 should be more goofy.
I want to see a toggle to alter shell velocity to like 200, so you can lob shells over cover and pump hesh into campers roof decks.
It would be a fun callback to playing golf in the low tier brit meds with the howitzers.

>>2162511
I wouldn't mind a T11 light tank deploying anit-tank mines.
Doesn't do too much dmg, but doubles/triples the track down time.

>Unlock the KR-1
>It sucks compared to the IS-7
>Unlock the Contriver
>It sucks compared to the Canopener
Lmao what's the point? Just more pointless shit to grind.

>>2162511
I'd put low shell velocity on the Conq line to "call back" to the howitzers the Churchs used to have
I guess maybe a literal railgun would work on the Cent line where your shell velocity improves to like 2000m/s and it increases your alpha?

>>2163048
Alpha buffs are lame imo.
Penetration going up to like 400 temporarily would be sweet.
Every minute or so it can just shove a shell into your tank almost regardless of armor.

Or they could steal the lesta sabot rounds where the damage scales depending on the cross sectional area the round travels through.
So like face to ass on a heavy it does over 1k damage, but sniping a cupola with air behind it you do like 200.

What should I buy using the Holiday Spirit resources?
2D camos from older holiday events or coins for the gacha machine?

>>2163862
I personally don't like any of the styles except the carpet one, gatcha machine gives you credits, free xp, credit boosters and experimental equipment and parts

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Hey Guys! Someone's maybe going to have an extension stream on Twitch yesterday. I suggest making it a few days, not just a few hours.

The image below says:
Playing Tanks Blitz / World of Tanks
!!!Extension stream - 1 viewer = +1 minute, $1 = +1 hour!!!

He's Nickname:

l_der_kater_l

>played 50 games today
>25% WR
Sick of this rigged pile of shit, I'm going to War Thunder, adios.

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>>2164747
Retard

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>>2164747
>The only player who was in all 50 of my games is me, why is my winrate so consistently low?
>It must be wargayming's fault

>>2165448
If you legitimately believe that you clearly have not dealt with some of these teams lately
>consistently top the scoreboard on exp and damage
>bro you're le only heckin constant
yes, the other guy is probably dogshit, and if you're a pixel perfect gamer with immaculate gamesense you can drag your WR up to 55-60% of the time but this also often involves playing with other highly skilled players and stacking 3 actually competent people on a team. If you're solo queueing you never stood a chance.

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>>2165462
I was shitting around solo with boosters on in random tier 8s for 30 battles to grind silver earlier and ended up with 63%, it's not hard.

>>2165468
Sort by vehicles :^)
Also it's all luck of the draw, the reality is that on a 15 player team you can exert some influence but more often than not you can't actually decide the battle if the other 14 players are retarded
best example I have is from yesterday
I was playing E100 (I know, already throwing the match) on Highway. I go city, rack up 6k damage, but end up in a 2v3 as everyone else in the city with me is literally nothing more than a meat shield. I actually could've probably won the city and my team could've won the match IF our T110E5 was willing to flank a 150~ HP E100; I could've pushed in to a better position, fought against and beat a BZ-75, and would've been ready to deal with an enemy BatChat 25.
Instead he just AFK'd while the E100 stared me down, the BC flanked me out and I was caught in a dogshit position and died. The T110E5 simply sat there and did literally nothing the entire time, didn't even secure the kill on the E100 or shoot the BC clipping me.
I did everything I could, and so did two other people on the team, but it simply was not enough to make up for 12 other deadweight meatshields, 5 of whom did literally 0 damage.

>>2165533
Onslop in two weeks fampai, see you there.

>>2165571
I almost never play Onslaught although honestly i might go hard this season cause I have a ton of bonds to spend.
Wondering if it'll be worth picking up the Charlemagne or the new addition or if I should just grab the Kpz and call it a day.

>>2165578
You should it's better than 1v29 especially once you get out of wood league.
If onslop was a permanent game mode I would play it exclusively just because games are faster and it really punishes the average random battle coward who won't spend their hp.

>>2165580
>it really punishes the average random battle coward who won't spend their hp.
this shit was hilarious, I'd just queue up E100 and retard push and get rewarded for it

>>2165571
onslaught is gonna be funny as fuck
i never played light tanks so i'm going to practice it on my alt and try to carry myself out of it in a heavy tank meta
said alt also has like 1000 WTR so i'm going to feast on all the after battle messages

>>2165592
Heavies are actually kinda shit because they get really mediocre role skills.
The meta is e50m and tds like foch b and e4. Maybe a little object 140 or batchat.
Last sneason I played pretty much exclusively e50m to gold then crashed all the way back down grinding field mods after I bought out the store.

Lights are decent on open maps like ghost town but it takes a lot of clicking to keep dropping planes while you're trying to fight.
If you have the map awareness for that you might as well just play e50m and be really devious isolating people and killing them.

>>2165604
yeah i know assault mediums are the way to actually climb if you play onslaught at a decent level

i wouldn't mind light tanking but i got into it too late and trying to learn how to plane in a gold - legend lobby is actual griefing

i actually enjoy onslop at a lower level. so many random shit happens at this skill range and tons of people crashing out because of a mix of people trying to climb out of ELO hell and people who DGAF and play for weeklies

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>>2164747
War Blunder is fucking soulless and is in a much worse state than WOT. The core game itself is literally hear the engine and spot the pixel, and I'm fully convinced that the type of retards that scream WT is better than WOT are simply too retarded to learn WOT mechanics and utilize it. The premium tanks problem is even worse in WT because gayjoob can release extremely broken tanks on release, then nerf them at a later date. Balancing is literally non-existent, and gayjoob will nitpick false info to nerf some tanks while refusing to implement secret documents on some.

>>2165578
Kpz and Concept are both fun Tier9 tanks, Charlemagne feels like a waste of bonds.

>>2165610
You need to play Onlaught during the first days, to get carried by no life pros for a bit.
It's hell to play during week 2 or later, poolish kid platoons are gonna throw so many games for you that climbing gets hard.

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>>2165624
they made it easier to climb to silver now so it's not that bad even with 45% WR as long as you place high within the team
for my main, i'm content with what i have now so i don't feel the need to run the treadmill for more bond equipment / reskinned tier 10. i'll just play the mode for the gameplay itself and have fun doing something i never done within the last 3 onslaughts by light tanking

>>2165626
I just want to get the market to buy the chinese TD, last time I gave up due to shitty platoons throwing match after match.

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>>2165628
the 114 SP2 is ok but i had more fun in the DBV-152 and object 268 v5
I also forgot the LTC II is a new reward now so I might have to grind for it if it turns out stronger than the projet louis in randoms

>>2165634
https://tanks.gg/tank/ltc-ii
Looks neat. 10 shell mag with 2s intraclip. Closest thing we've had to pre-nerf bulldog since the light tank changes.

>>2165638
Tier 9 AMX 13/57 sounds not like fun to be honest.
265mm pen max and only 1500HP against Tier 11 in every 2 or 3 match.

>>2165655
Anon, the projet louis is already in the game as an uptiered 13 57 and people love it despite it having even less pen (248) and even less hp (1400) than the LTC II. It even has worse camo and view range than its tier 7 counterpart.

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>>2165638
i took a look at the comparison and it's actually pretty grim for the LTC II
I skipped over the 42 second reload and 18 second unload time, that is ball breaking fora combat scout, especially in 3 minute game meta

projet louis at least have the module damage gimmick from unloading fast at 7 seconds

>>2165664
It looks worse than the Char Mle. 75 and that's a gimmic tank.

>>2165448
>go to your place on the map
>fight and trade well
>stay in the fight
>meanwhile the rest of your team have surrendered the other half of the map and are now in your base
you are le only heckin constant

>>2165688
The game's on life support mode anyway, you won't have to suffer much longer. Giving away all those free tier 10 lines was a Hail Mary. WoT content creators have about a sixth of the views/subs what War Thunder creators have.

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it's another "teammate rushes ahead to die providing crucial cover for the enemy tanks" episode

Tier 11 tanks are shit lmao, the only good one is the Taschenfatte