Hello????

Dead game. I got back into grinding the missions for whatever autistic reason and it's insane how empty the servers feel. (EU) prime time has few sweats trying to sweep empty lobbies but outside those times it's like playing a single player game.

I still think the water map is pretty cool. Maybe DaD2 should be a marine ecosystem simulator.

>>2185804
Dude it's still in early access just wait until 1.0

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>>2185515

Arc Raiders is shit from a butt 100%. Worst great-looking game I have played in years. Definitely the most overhyped pile of shit I might have ever seen.

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>>2185515
I have a lot of hours into dark and darker. Every game has PVEggers whining and crying the game needs to be easier. Thats why Ironmace added the pve only mode and tanked the playerbase
Thats why tera died
Thats why wakfu died
Thats why new world's player retention flopped on launch
Thats why dofus died
Thats why once human pic rel
Thats why tree of savior
thats why firefall
thats why wildstar
thats why
thats

I'm really enjoying the PVE and have not touched PVP at all. It is a solid dungeon crawler.

>>2185515
XD I cannot believe things have gotten that bad.

its okay sdf you already got your money you dont have to beg on 4chan for a few more players

With the new season incoming next Friday, I'm of the opinion that they need to seriously consider making the different modes specialized in a way that they are accessible for newbies but also promote a feeling of natural progression as you get better at the game.

Adventure mode should remain as it is, with the same rarity and loot caps.

Normal mode gets deleted. It's dead already, and adventure mode has effectively taken it over entirely. This is why people feel pvp is dead too.

HR Adventure gets deleted. It's stupid, doesn't fit and is underplayed as it is.

HR PVP is the new top tier end game. Remove the circle as they're talking about (again), and then raise difficulties on the pve content etc. This should be the premier and top mode. Everything should be balanced around it etc.

Squire to Riches can remain the same, including keeping the circle. It is a unique mode and it feels like the classic early betas.

Ranked Arena runs Friday thru Sunday as it does now. (With whatever rules devs decide/settle on)

Unranked Arena added Monday thru Thursday with common gear only.
Would offer a chance to player to practice and would offer a lot of balance info for classes without gear skewing the data.

I'm sure everyone will have an opinion on this and that's fine, but that's just my thoughts. I feel a pve mode is critical to the long term health, but not at the expense of HR.
Squire to riches offers a simple and low gear fear pvp mode to casuals.
Adventure offers a fair path to unlocking Arena gear on the weekends.
Unranked arena offers casual testing and learning during the week.
And HR is the end game experience and it's what they balance for etc.
I think this could also offer a final balancing of the queues they all seem so endlessly concerned about.

>>2185515
>>2194449
PvE is a necessary inclusion in this game at this point given how the retarded devs refuse to fix the netcode and server desync issues.
Why the fuck should anyone ever risk their gear in a pvp dungeon when lagging niggers get the advantage?
I enjoy arena because I don't risk anything to some trash lagging faggot, just a little time, but fuck giving someone my good gear because they can't be assed to wire their fucking PC to the modem and slum with wifi.

Dark and Darker - Patch 69 3.0 Synposis

CORE: All maps will be 7x7, 3 floors. No new classes/spells. Circle removed. Headshot dmg reverted. Modifiers removed: All Att, +Max HP, True Dmg, +MoveSpeed. New secret loot spots added.

PROGRESSION: HR PvE removed. Map/HR access locked behind ranks (Wanderer 1 for HR). GC gets 2nd level + Fire Colossus boss in Hell. New Volcano lava map.

GOBLIN RECOVERY: Now in all modes. Level goblin affinity for % chance to get some loot back (up to 100%). Void deaths = 100% loss. Goal is item inflation & softer setbacks.

BALANCE PHILOSOPHY: "Trying to remove skill expression" from movement tech (jump to offset slow, etc.). "Ratting" play stays. New balance team. Season start balance will be "crazy." Every weapon gets Block/Parry.

CLASS NERFS:

· Druid: No instant shapeshift.
· Sorc: No instant cast (Time Distortion).
· Warlock: Torture Mastery dead. Can't heal past recoverable HP.
· Barb: Whirlwind 1st person. Can throw any weapon.
· Wizard: Keeps instacast.

CLASS REWORK ORDER: Fighter & Barb > Rogue & Ranger > Wizard & Bard.

ARENA: No SSF. Purple cap. No sub-boss. 3-stack queue considered. May raise MMR to force solo queue at high rank.

MISC: "Reds" not fixed (under discussion). Achillies Lantern bug not addressed. Dwarf skin has small power bonus.

>>2208056
Jan 26 Q&A synopsis/breakdown:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xvlhxy6b6A1WpSMsC-572u7ZPh70fV4UyR04uuNejJo/mobilebasic

>>2205655
>netcode and server desync issues
The Q&A suggests this is a core issue with the inventory system.
Apparently the code is spaghetti and they said it'll take a year to fix.
Insanity. This is why the game dies.
The 2k+ hour players are stuck, they can't leave. Sunk cost fallacy.
But this shit will absolutely prevent new players from ever giving the game a chance after they die a few times to pvp lag... And I don't blame them if they quit.

I would unironically drop 100k from my savings to invest in this game with a different dev team

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>>2208326
Worst QnA ever. Hope IM cuts ties with onepeg

>>2208056
>skill expression"
-_-

Bunny hopping before every single action isn't skill expression, it's a retarded glitch and it's good they're fixing it (finally)

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>>2208056
Wizard is dead with the removal of true magic damage, they already altered so many spells to balance around that. I doubt they adjusted values of ALL spells to compensate but at least spell pen wont be a useless stat anymore.

Wipe hypeee they're cooking!

>launch issues again
Never change IM

>Multiple Streamers banned for gold dupe
>It still works
Why have they not emergency patched this? You can do it up to 120 times with out a ban or so says their discord

>Buy bullet/ball from weaponsmith for 1g
>Sell back for 5g
>Rinse repeat

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>>2185515
AND WE'RE BACK

>combats actually fun now
>Druids dead
>Warlocks dead
Wait the games good

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>Spin to win
Actually impressed by the melee combat with blocking actually working. Except for whirlwind which just goes right through, I imagine they will change that

>>2212574
>WONT SOMEONE THINK ABOUT THE POOR CHEATING STREAMERS!!!!

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>>2212586
>Even high guard had a better all time peak
What is needed for this game to break 100k?

>>2212758
>What is needed for this game to break 100k?
An actual marketing push. Think about it, no one knows of this game, but everyone knows what Arc is.
Arc ads were spammed on YouTube, Snapchat, Instagram pre launch.
Highguard was advertised/announced at the end of the game awards (or whatever the fuck it was).
Dark and Darker on the other hand has been pretty under the radar and not really advertised.
They were on the IM client for years, dealt with the lawsuits and even tho finally on steam for a while, they're still just only now out of the lawsuit and this is the first season since the S.Korean supreme Court ruled they didn't notably steal or infringe on Nexon.

So I think they should do as they're doing, fix core issues like movement, combat, balance. Keep working on this stuff for another couple seasons and then when ready to launch out of early access do a massive marketing push before launch.

Barb won
Fighter win
Warlock troons lost
Druidroons lost

>>2212789
Maybe I'm huffing copium, but I really hope Iron Mace can actually put some significant work on improving the game now that the lawsuit is (mostly?) over. Ridiculous that it took them 3ish years to add the ability to block and parry on every weapon

>>2212929
>2929
dubs of truth
FUCK disarm though

I mostly played Druid and they deleted my fucking class from the game this season because of people ratting in solo HR (I only played trios/squires where druid was already one of the weaker classes)
suffering

>>2213199
I don't think it's copium to think now that they're free from the lawsuit that they'll be able to finally work on the game properly again.
I really just think they're finally making the right changes by focusing on fundamentals.
My only real gripe is the locking of maps behind a grind now. It's not the worst thing ever, but it just feels arbitrary and I don't like arbitrary (esp since they said they're trying it because they saw Arc Raiders did it)

>>2214431
Druid is probably still better than Wiz/Sorc right now lol

>>2214591
you're smoking crack man Wizard is still good and Sorc got buffs. I still see both of those in the dungeon too.
Druid got completely deleted from any level of viability. I haven't seen a single one and I probably won't the entire season, it's that bad.

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>>2214591
>Druid is probably still better than X
Get off youtube and play the game yourself. Druid's base stats have been absurdly low for many patches now. They keep getting stat nerfs because of the streamers complaining about bear form. The differences in the classes should be weapon choices and perks and skills, not substantial stat differences.
Thanks to the streamers, ironmace has nerfed the base stats of druids multiple times to balance panther and bear. Druid is well below average, either bear or panther form is required to use to be viable on druid.

Play as a druid with whatever armor and weapon you want, dont shapeshift and try fighting any other class in melee and tell me the class is overpowered.

>>2215022
>Cont.
With the exception of rogues (Druids hard counter rogues) the druid will lose every melee even matchup against a barb, fighter, warlock, and cleric.

0 new cleric spells in over 2 years

>>2215522
Atleast clerics get 2 skills they can use
Druids get either a spell wheel or shapeshift wheel. Shapeshift mastery and Lifebloom Aura prevent you from using the other, and all they have for skills is the two memory wheels.

They should remove barb already. The class serves no other purpose than fuck up game balance.

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>Druid nuked off fhe face of existence
Good.

>>2215522
Supposedly Ranger and Cleric are getting new stuff later this season, but I wouldn't hold my breath

Disarm is fucking AIDS. I'm not playing this shit again until it's nerfed or removed. Hope this gook shit finally fucking dies

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>>2216604
Ranger and Rogue, I havent heard cleric getting anything other than the last promise that ALL introductory classes would get new spells at the launch of S8 (Which turned into barb and fighter only)
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I miss playtest 2 of Dark and Darker so much. I wish they would ignore the pveggers and babies and force Squires to Riches (Trios only) being the only game mode (at least for normals). Even as a solo player, the game isnt the same at all in solo lobbies. I sprint to other player spawns now to kill them, its not at all the same game as it used to be. If i was forced into fighting possibly 1vs2's or 1vs3's I would move more cautiously. Hell, i dont even like playing with my newb friends because then i have to 1vs2 or 1vs3 if they're new. Its actively hurting me to play with them. It should be a benefit to have more in your group.

kys faggot. this game NEEDS to die. we could've had actually good mechanics like chiv/mordhau melee mechanics. or at the VERY LEAST feinting. but no this game since its inception is just:

kite kite kite with throwing weapons til u know u have an hp advantage and then initiate. its just a shitty slow shooter. Tarkov is still king and Tarkov is a piece of shit.

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1~2 new abilities or perks is a good idea build wipe hype.
DND has a metric FUCK ton of stuff to pull from

>>2216905
Just block it. Or bait it and have them waste it on a doorway or whatever.
It's better than some of the other bullshit in this game.

>>2217222
You're diaper is full

>>2217823
Blocking STILL sucks shit and still allows for hits to go through

>>2218501
Sounds like a skill issue.

>endless chinese farmers mass harvesting a currently useless resource

So did graysun and sdf drop a hot tip to their rmt friends again?

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We should totally copy a game with less players!!!

>>2220537
I've been playing Chivalry 2 again, and god damn is it so much better than DaD. DaD should rip off that game instead

>>2212758
They need to win back the trust of players. Good meaningful updates over a period of time