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starting a new run

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>>2186471
these are my traits surely nothing will go wrong?

>>2186472
After just one run with motion sensitive I was convinced its far from free points. Well if you're doing a Lemmy sanctioned ungabunga run, of course it is free, but for everyone else it requires really planning ahead since even the shortest trip will immediately put you in a fever state.

>>2186512
yeah after playing a bit I think im gonna restart without motion sickness and without fear of blood
the latter is making me unable to know when I need to smoke

>>2186428
No.

Playing a listen server with my friend, I'm hosting. Whenever I drive a vehicle my friend never sees me driving anywhere and the car never moves on his side but whenever he drives it works.

Is this because it's not dedicated? I really don't want to go through the process of making a dedicated server just to fix a bug.

>Melee/push hitboxes are a cone from your viewpoint instead of a combined rectangle+cone system
>Meaning the closer a zombie gets, ironically it's harder to hit them until at certain points your arms/weapon can clip right through a zombie and 'miss' despite visual feedback saying you hit
>This has been an issue since B41 released and to date hasn't been fixed despite being a literal 10 minute job

good morning I hate videogames

>>2186428
necrophilic faggot nigger

>>2186471
>>2186472
What's the theme/challenge of the run? Surely you're not just gonna do a regular run (easy)?

>>2186472
>Motion Sensitive
No one should ever pick a trait that can kill.

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>>2186848
the usual
level str and fit to 10
collect every book
level every skill to 10
collect all the rare cars from the mods
5% sprinters
helicopter sometimes
and of course collect all the kinky gear from tomb's wardrobe and frockin splendor to dress her up like a whore

plenty of challenge and time to sink

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I had an idea for a mod that was a total transformation mod that removed all modern tech things and adds medieval weapons and stuff and the map is a replica of Westeros and the zombies are white walkers.

>>2186861
So just a default autist run? That's easy

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>>2186976
yes, I'm not playing this game competitively
I haven't reached diamond league or mythic rank in project zomboid yet

>>2186861
>helicopter sometimes
>sometimes

>>2186986
heli event should be default sometimes, gives me something to do in this game of zero objectives

>>2186710
>This has been an issue since B41 released and to date hasn't been fixed despite being a literal 10 minute job
You could say the same for caloric values, except it's a 5 seconds job. Zomboid is abandonware.

>>2187023
I'd be content to just survive innawoods and do cool shit if the devs actually bothered. Bows and crossbows don't exist, and animals give 0 calories so hunting is pointless. The entire zombie combat consists in walking backwards while clicking. We have no bows, no throwing rocks to distract zeds, their AI to find you is insufferably spiteful (a zed will perfectly hear you and find you from 5 stories below, zeds pathing around fences, zeds becoming gods when on the ground...), all the systems blatantly suck or aren't implemented.

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149.102.156.205:35200 London
Sprinters + Sleep PVE

Maybe i'll add the multiplayer bug fix mod, but it can't take that long until indiestone does a "hotfix".

300 zombie hearing causing some cells to be packed with zombies because of meta event sounds. Some rally settings to make zombies travel around a bit more.

I guess this is for anyone looking for an empty dedicated server.

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baddie outfit acquired

>B42 added children zombies to the game and so far I've only seen a couple of people mention it
Fucking hate how retarded game communities are now, nobody fucking talks about the game anymore.

>>2187613
where?

>>2187617
You didn't notice the shitloads of zombies wearing children's clothes, carrying children's backpacks full of children's items?

>>2187621
No? If they have the same size body then you mean teens/adolescences not children.

>>2187623
>Young teens aren't children
What did they mean by this?

>>2187627
If they have the same body as an adult they're not a child.

>>2187629
You're implying that the setting has heaps of those weird fetishists who pretend to be children, and they all ran to the local schools during a zombie apocalypse?
Or...
The devs are lazy?

>>2187632
Or it's a highschool

>>2187634
Look I know this is 4chan, and 'she's 13 out of 10' and all that.
They're still children.

>>2187638
Clearly if they have the same models as adults they're going to be representing seniors.

>>2187641
>Clearly they're adults despite all evidence to the contrary and the developers being lazy motherfuckers
Lol

>>2187644
And what is all the evidence to the contrary

>>2187645
>How they're dressed
>Their location
>Their personal items on person
>etc?
Again, why are you assuming there's heaps of child-fetishists at the schools ingame???

>>2187646
So, high schoolers at a high school?

>>2187647
>Highschool girls are 6 feet tall
I wish.

>>2187621
>You didn't notice the shitloads of zombies wearing children's clothes, carrying children's backpacks full of children's items?
That has always been a thing near schools.

>>2187754
No it fucking hasnt. Load up B41 and check for yourself.

Take your meds

>>2187754
No, it was added with B42 when they added a shitload of items and changed spawns and shit.

>>2187621
>children's clothes
there are no child zombie models, no children's clothes and no zombie children

>>2188076
Shut the fuck up and get out of the thread Lemmy, you broke your own promise not to put children zombies ingame yet somehow they slipped by you lmao.
Such an incompetent retard.

>>2188077
I know the developers are malicious and retarded, the game is in borderline dev hell and you haven't gotten your dick wet in your entire lifetime, but you don't need to go on the internet and make up retarded shit because you're bored

>>2188088
>They're not children! They're just in the children's areas, wearing children's clothes, carrying children's toys and items!
Stop this needless cope.

>>2188094
despite what your hypno fetish videos say, dressing up your obese ass into children's clothes and wearing a big red backpack does not automatically make you a child
substantiate your claims with screenshots or perish

>>2188099
You're suggesting the game, set in 1993 zombie apocalypse, had hundreds of weirdos dressing up as children at the local schools and daycares?

>>2188101
not going to argue any further until you provide any proof of these zombies existing

>>2188106
Play B42 then you fucking retard, why are you arguing for a game you aren't even playing.

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>>2188108
B42 is utterly shit and I have absolute no motivation to play the game ever again until they actually fix the massive issues it currently has or add something subtantial like NPCs
now post those screenshots you baiting fucktard

>>2188110
>Shits up thread with needless predditor arguing
>Isn't even playing the fucking game
PLAY THE GAME

so it was bait
you're pathetic

ZombiesZoneDefinition.School = {
HonorStudent = {
name="HonorStudent",
chance=5,
},
ShellSuit_Black = {
name="ShellSuit_Black",
chance=3,
},
ShellSuit_Blue = {
name="ShellSuit_Blue",
chance=3,
},
ShellSuit_Green = {
name="ShellSuit_Green",
chance=3,
},
ShellSuit_Pink = {
name="ShellSuit_Pink",
chance=3,
},
ShellSuit_Teal = {
name="ShellSuit_Teal",
chance=3,
},
Young = {
name="Young",
chance=15,
},
Student = {
name="Student",
chance=50,
},
Teacher = {
name="Teacher",
chance=15,
},
Varsity = {
name="Varsity",
chance=5,
},
}

>Young = { name="Young", chance=15,},
Anon wasn't lying, damn.

>M16's and M14's are supposed to basically only spawn in army guncases
>Army guncases show up surprisingly often in gunstores but they removed all 'loot within loot', so they're always empty
>This is obviously unintended behavior that was supposed to fix backpacks being full of dried apricots and shit in camping stores
>By fixing this little bug, they added more bugs to the game
Lovely.

>>2188111
>PLAY THE GAME
Not him, but still no. 90% of changes between B41 and B42 are actively harmful to the experience, and I already experienced everything interesting the game had to offer years ago. The only new content in the last 3 year has been lemmy melties and hilariously shitty and spiteful updates.

>>2188277
then why are you here
seriously this thread is dead, you're not gonna be heard by people least of all the devs here

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>>2188296
>then why are you here
Why are you here if the game is so good, just play it, or go praise it with your fellow redditors

>>2187287
Which MP bug fix mod are you using? I'm using
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3646815505
And other than a single instance where a zombie teleported a few feet and gave me a laceration I've had no issues.

>>2188314
I'm here cuz I want to post my progress and shit

>>2188077
>>2188088
I wish there were actually children zombies. Children existed in 1993 Kentucky.

>>2188277
post some lemmy meltdowns

>>2188351
I meant this one. Not added as of yet. But i'll just add both of them later today. Thanks.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3627047348

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>>2188419

>>2188417
The average Kentuckian simply bursts from the ground fully formed as a physical adult. This, incidentally, is why every player character is so shit.

>>2188113
You were able to find varsity students with school backpacks before B42 though.

>>2188793
No you werent

>>2188807
Yes you were, there were plenty of "student" zombies wearing varsity clothing and backpacks before B42.

>>2188821
No there fucking wasnt

>>2188829
Yes there are.
>t. Someone who still hasn't played B42

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>>2188829
>>2188835
B41, zero mods.

>>2188849
who cares

I accept your concession.

first time ever I've seen the "I accept your concession" used properly

>>2189081
The funny part is that it wasn't even me, >>2188849, who wrote that.

>>2189116
It was me, I saw a perfect opportunity and took it.

nah it was me

i would happily pay 20$ for a "npcs dlc" if it meant Lemmy would make his team get off their fat fucking asses and actually work on the game for once instead of spending 4 years working on knitting and fly fishing mechanics, but even he knows thats not going to happen.

looks and feels great, aside from the fact that driving is a stuttering nightmare. as soon as I drive, immediately drops to 15 fps

>yes I've tried allocating more ram
>no I don't have any mods installed
>yes I've installed the latest unstable patch

how are you guys actually playing this? I cant drive without crashing into everything due to fps
3080 TI, 5800x3d, 32gb ram

started with obese as well as 0 strength and fitness for the extra points and it was in fact a mistake

>>2189542
I think they might have ruined Zero to Hero with the B42.

>>2188793
Varsity students were in B41 but they new 'Young' students are new and they are full of more childish items.

>>2189542
Playing without the Athletic trait and at least stout is a meme-build.

>1 solid month since the last hotfix and nothing has happened
>B42 is over a year old and still has a lot of the issues reported day 1

>>2189425
this on b42 right? good to know it's not only me

>Rotten/burnt food is always an instakill with no real way to prevent death
Why not just disable eating the food if it's fucking lethal?

>>2189745
sorry chud this game is realistic, if you eat burnt french fries you will instantly keel over and die just like IRL

>>2189757
Yeah my mom ate a burnt steak one time, nothing the doctors could do for her.
She got a fever within a couple hours and died faster than ebola could kill a person.

>All non-Axe weapons have a -1 effective to skill modifier
>There has never been an explanation for this
>It's not a bug either, it's deliberate "If not axe, then -1 to skill" modifier
>There is absolutely no way to see this ingame, only in datamining
What the fuck is wrong with these devs?

>Canonically no bombs dropped in the exclusion zone with the exception of maybe near Louisville's burnt town
>Huge pileups of burnt cars looking like it was napalm striked
Can the devs go 1 fucking minute without retconning their own lore?
At least they got rid of the flatscreen TV's that were in the game, those made no fucking sense.

>This is a realistic game, CHUD!
>That's why only the player can activate house alarms, 100 zombies entering a house wouldn't do that!

Hoping Dandelion Void is good. Zomboid feels like the greatest waste of potential ever but nobody wants to pick up the mantle to make a better game.

>>2189874
I lost interest in that game when I saw the previews and the player character was a bald black woman.

>>2189768
Same reason why some of the skill levels do literally nothing for certain weapon types.
I never expected Bannerlord to be fixed before this game.

>>2187634
At least they didn't bother differentiating between types of school looking at the loot. The elementary school in Muldraugh has the same type of loot as the middle/high school in Riverside for instance. Or maybe in the US you start reading welding, butchering and mechanic technical manuals in elementary school.
The so called "child" zombies are full grown zombies with childrens backpacks and some kind of generic Chris Chan-esque clothing. Honestly way more creepy than if they were to add actual child zombies to the game.

>>2189683
Now I always do athletic no matter what, but I've tried starting with weak. On 3x XP its kind of bearable, but honestly still feels fucking bad. For the first 2-3 days you can barely loot anything and have to sacrifice at least two days (one day if you also fully turn off muscle strain) to even get back up to 5, and that's the most critical time to be looting things.

>>2190199
Why critical time to loot things? I just spam fastforward next to a tv until lvl 3. Then do lvl 4 sometime later

Obese is nice when you have low food loot rate and gaining weight can be annoying.

I never pick the low fitness stuff though. 5 is totally fine if you use a knife build.

>>2190212
I just like to get a generator up and going in the first couple days so I can save as much ice cream as possible in the freezer, in case there is an early shutoff.

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>eating sticks of butter makes my character unhappy but he's perfectly fine with eating whole unprepared chicken feet

>>2190417
>Eating frozen bread will make your character massively depressed but they will happily scarf down huge swathes of uncooked vegetables that taste like shit IRL

>>2190420
Considering frozen bread is fucking solid like a rock, I'm assuming your character is unhappy because they're jamming it up their ass.

stable in 2026 surely haha?

>>2189768
>All non-Axe weapons have a -1 effective to skill modifier
what

fuck me MP is so unstable its ridiculous, I just want them to stop fucking around finish B42 and then FUCK OFF so modders can do their thing

>>2190768
Yea, stable on my dick

>>2190783
Lets say you have level 7 Short Blunt
You 'actually' have level 6 short blunt.
If you have level 10 long blade you actually have level 9 long blade.
Only axes have the 'real' skill level.

>>2190436
You can munch bits of frozen bread over time.
It's still bread, why would the player be upset with the taste of bread?

>survive ten days
>got hit once, infected, run is over
>survive ten days again
>same thing again
this kind of fucking sucks

>>2191472
Turn infection mortality to 'never', it gives a potentially dangerous fever but you can survive it as long as you aren't already heavily wounded or starving.

>>2191497
How much health do you lose from the fever?

>>2191504
It's not too much provided you snack while you're sick.
But it weakens you and makes you overheat (meaning it makes you tired too)
So generally it's a case of 'if you're infected, stay the fuck away from zombies for a while'.
But it can kill you.

>>2191497
I can't, it would be cheating. I am here to suffer pointlessly

>>2191527
>Developers are on record saying there's no canon or 'intended' difficulty
>Meaning fuck it, cheatmod as much as you want! It's canon!
>They had to say this because people started getting upset over the lore and gameplay having no correlation at all

why is there still a health bar at all, shouldn't they have gone to some Casualties: Unknown shit by now?

>>2191249
but why

>>2191808
Same question you can ask for 95% of B42 content.

>repairing a weapon has a chance to fail and damage it instead
for what fucking purpose?

does anyone here still feel hopeful about the game's future? I think I'm about ready to give up

>>2191960
Not really, because unlike other games that thrive on modding they're working at cross purposes with both the modding community and the larger part of players. Like they have their ridiculous ideas about "realism" and what the game should be about (that you should absolutely guaranteed die in a few days, unless you resign yourself to grinding stone age survival skills and living innawoods for 200-300 hour playthroughs).
A more sensible dev would see that after B41 MP when most people found the game, most of those players just want a highly tweakable sandbox to play zombie apocalypse. Really no one except the devs themselves are interested in their ideas of "realism". They just want the game to be STABLE and highly moddable. And yet because of their stubbornness and autism they're going to hold this against players, whining about how mean everyone is to them and how they need to take 6 months off work to play some faggot game to relax (which ends up giving them inspiration for even more retarded ideas) leading to B42 stable probably taking 1-2 more years to finish. The longer it takes the more they will demoralize the player and modding community until it gets to a point where even when B42 stable hits there is no one around to bother modding any more.
That's not even beginning to talk about B43 and whatever retarded ideas for NPC's they might have cooking.

>>2191960
hell no

>>2191808
Nobody knows. It's not a bug either, it's 100% intended behavior because the actual check is literally "If not Axe, -1 to skill"

>>2192071
where's the mod that fixes it then?

>>2192163
I don't think anybody has actually fixed it yet.

having to downloads mods to fix years old bugs and "intended behaviours" for a game that has been in active development for 14 years is grim

>>2192286
Oh fun fact, even today when over 500 zombies appear in your cell, it despawns a bunch.
Meaning you can run around and attract huge swathes of zombies which 'kills' shitloads without your knowledge.
You can't get the giga-fuckhuge hordes anymore, 500 is the cap. And 500 is actually higher than the 300 which the game defaults to.

>>2192289
oh yes I know this, IIRC it's to prevent lag from massive hordes, I also remember a lot of coping that the massive engine optimizations in B42 will make this function unecessary
now the game runs even worse than it did before the optimizations lol

>>2192291
At least I think they fixed the 'bug' where zombies don't spawn inside buildings until you enter them.
Which was always total bullshit.
>Fire a fucking shotgun in the street, no zombies
>Enter house
>10 zombies???

>Zomboid's grind isn't that bad! Just use *Insert unintended grind/loop/exploit* and it's easy!
Ahh yes the developers totally balanced the game around the player being able to pick up 500 carryweight of gold bars from a specific location!

>>2192362
I found gold bar next to the dead bank robber car event.

>>2187424
this looks so stupid lol

>>2187632
it's obviously a highschool

U.S elementry schools don't use lockers and aren't multi floor massive sizes like the zomboid highschools.

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nice

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reminder
most efficient way to powerlevel carpentry
costs 1 nail and 1 plank
gives base 8xp per craft, can easily expend a book in a few crafts

>>2192666
I still think the idea of grinding in this game is so weird. Maybe not grinding in itself since I suppose there actually could be sensible ways to implement a grind that seems more natural, but why did they make it literally like black desert lifeskill grinding? It objectively does not make sense that making 1000 floor boards translates into your character eventually figuring out how to make a crate.

>>2192402
>U.S elementry schools don't use lockers
I went to 3 different elementary schools as a kid and they all had lockers. I'm sure there are ones without lockers, but I wouldn't know. Probably locational.

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I fucking fell from a second floor trying to build rain catcher barrels
now I'm stuck at home for a whole week...

>>2186914
Yeah but you're not gonna do it

>>2189410
I wouldn't pay for that because that was promised when I bought the game the first time.

NPCs are going to be a disaster. They have been in development for 15 years. So when they come out and are just as stupid and retarded as the NPCs from every other game that has NPCs, normal people will say "why was this shit hyped up so much they are just normal dogshit NPCs"

Of course TIS cultists will continue to suck off lemmy but normal people see through it.

>>2192705
weird, you don't really have separate classes until 6th grade so 1-5th you just have like a cubby in your only classroom

>>2192880
The ones I went to had lockers since separate classes started at 5th grade, but mind you they were all in the same general area of the state.

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just let me finish smoking real quick

Project Zomboid build 43 JUST released and i decided now was the time to try it out.

The moment i loaded in i knew something was different. Not because the game told me, but because a dude sprinted past my house at 3 AM screaming, opened my fridge, dropped a spoon, and then walked directly into a zombie like it owed him money.

That's right THERE ARE NPCS WALKING AROUND MULDRAGH AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTE FRICKIN CHAOS GOBLINS.

Are they smart? No
Are they functional? Not in a million years
Are they the most Project Zomboid thing to ever happen? ABSOLUTELY YES.

Now, why is this actually HUGE?

This is just the foundation.
This is the messy, glorious first step towards: Real communities, Betrayals, Trading, Raids, That one NPC who is probably called Billy that WILL get you killed and you WILL remember it forever.

Build 43 is the first step towards Project Zomboid becoming the most EPIC zombie game in human history.

But now i have to leave to go bash Billy's head in with a rolling pin so smash that like button, subscribe, ring the bell, barricade your windows,
AND I WILL SEE YOU IN KNOX COUNTY!
Anonymous Alpaca OUT!
https://youtu.be/dfrgjD-_hE4?

>>2193108
dang a post from 2047

anyway SCUM gets mod support this year and then theres zero reason to ever play any other zombie game ever

>>2192666
>>2192698
Books should be giving experience instead of boosting it.

>>2191960
Hoping Lemmy has a break down and sells it to competent devs.
>>2192666
>>2192698
The most optimal way to grind should be a recipe called "train skill" using the normal supplies associated with the skill.

>>2193388
No you don't understand, you WILL carve 450 spoons, and turn them into forks.
You WILL throw those 450 forks into a fireplace for fuel!
And you will click fast forward for the entire ingame week this will take!

>>2193132
Just shit like cosmetic mods or will there be scripting mods? Will I be able to dress up female NPCs in sexy clothes and fuck them at my base? Can I go steal them with a lasso like in Conan Exiles? If not then I dont give a fuck because SCUM is boring as hell right now. And if the mods are only cosmetic nothing will change about that.

>You can wear a cowboy hat with a whistle attached and this lets you whistle while using 2 handed weapons
>But somehow you can't wear a regular whistle around your neck and do the same thing
So add that to the 'Things Lemmy has never done in real life' list.
WHISTLES.

>>2193132
Isn't that just some rust clone with zombies where pvp is a big part of the game design? Idk anything about those day z inspired games

>>2193132
>SCUM
It's just another PVPVE game which in reality is just a PVP-fest where nolifers play the game habitually to curbstomp all the competition.

What's the intended way to reliably get safe drinking water if you're trying to live as a caveman in the woods?

>>2193552
Camp near a lake and boil lake water?

>>2193554
What container are you making yourself within a day that allows you to boil water?

>>2193552
>What's the intended way to reliably get safe drinking water if you're trying to live as a caveman in the woods?
Drink from the lake? It doesn't kill you anymore unless you drink while already sick.
But the correct answer is
>You don't
Because in the patch that was supposed to allow for unga-bunga mode, they didn't program in the means that unga-bunga requires.
As far as the game lore is concerned, cavemen invented glass/metal pots because they invented non-lethal drinking water.

>>2193566
I hadn't heard that natural water sources are no longer lethal poison.

>>2193575
The developers finally saw reason and made it so lakes aren't as fucking lethal as IRL nerve gasses.
I wouldn't drink from a bottle of water though, that might still kill you.
Gulping 2l of water from a lake? Fine!
Gulping 300ml from a can? DEATH.

Fuck it, going to tally the amount of negative traits that are actually a tradeoff instead of being abysmal dogshit and nobody using them outside of meme builds.
>High Thirst
Dogshit, +1 point is not worth having to gulp fuckloads of heavy water
>Sunday driver
Dogshit, makes cars functionally unusable
>All thumbs
Literally just wastes your time, dogshit
>Clumsy
Dogshit, falling over is a death sentence in this game
>Cowardly
Viable, can be mostly ignored as 'that big horde of zombies' will make you reach max panic without the trait anyways
>Fast metabolism
Mega dogshit, it's a game where the player already eats too much...And you want them to be weaker AND need more food!?
>Short sighted
Viable, keep a spare set of glasses if you are worried about it
>Slow metabolism
Viable, makes surviving calorie-wise easier, but debuffs your character at the start pretty harshly
>Slow reader
Viable, just fast forward or set books to be quicker to read, meh
>Smoker
Dogshit, used to be a viable trait but they nerfed it too hard
>Slow healer
Viable, just don't get injured.
>Weak stomach
Burnt/rotten food always kills you even with iron gut, viable
>Agoraphobic
Lol no, you're going to be outside most of the time, do you want to hear heartbeats constantly???
>Claustrophobic
Same issue, except now you can't even sleep in cars because of it lol
>Conspicuous
Viable, zombies spot you with LOS anyways
>Hard of hearing
Dogshit, literally fucks with the game audio, who the hell would want that?
>Hearty appetite
Might actually be a BUFF because players need to eat so much fucking food now
>Motion sensitive
Dogshit, who wants to get a fever from driving a car??? Did nobody check this before release?
>Prone to illness
Take outdoorsy and just never get the flu lmao
>Reluctant fighter
Viable, less weapon XP sucks but hey it's trait points and you WILL get the levels eventually
>Sleepyhead
Dogshit, anything that needs more sleep sucks ass because fatigue is king
>Fear of blood
Dogshit, stresses.

>>2193593
>Short of breath
Why is this not called Asthmatic? Fucking retard faggot devs renaming shit. Anyways, debuff to endurance/fatigue, instant dogshit tier
>Disorganized
Oh yes I want less storage space in my storage-space-simulator game! DOGSHIT
>Out of shape
Fitness reduction, dogshit
>Restless sleeper
Misleading trait tooltip, literally means you cannot fully rest so you have a 30% sleepiness debuff at all times
>Slow learner
Viable, less XP gains sucks but who gives a shit, turn up XP if you need to
>Weak
Viable, strength is easier to power-grind but still sort of sucks
>Illiterate
Not being able to read in a game where reading is the only way to do like half the things in the game...Yeah sure
>Thin skinned
Your clothes should be doing the damage resist anyways, just don't get bit, viable
>Puny
Strength but more extreme, barely viable
>Unfit
Lol, lmao even
>Deaf
Viable if you're deaf IRL, worthless otherwise, so dogshit.

>>2193594
13/33 viable, meaning that the developers have gone out of their way to make almost two thirds of their traits pointless to use.
As a point of measurement imagine if 6 out of the 9 original Doom weapons were completely fucking pointless to use.
It's fine if a game has a single meme item or two, not 60 fucking percent of them.

>>2193536
>>2193538
It's actually really good on custom pve RP servers

don't play officials they're garbage with horrible settings, like vanilla zomboid.

>>2193450
Yeah it's going to be fully open just like conan

>>2193594
>Why is this not called Asthmatic?
Because the devs are trying to appeal to ebonic speaking zoomers. The devs are proudly BLM supporter. Other than that, good list, fuck Lemmy.

>>2193107
lol

>B42 at launch was so fucking retarded that players were running around unga-bunga style armed with literal stones because nothing else fucking worked
Fucking wild times B42's release were...

>>2193596
I would say most negative traits offer negatives that might be interesting for at least a roleplay scenario.
The bigger problem is the numbers for these traits. They've aggressively balanced all the negative traits to the point you get basically nothing, and I imagine they're just going to keep doing that because as soon as anyone says "x is free points" Lemmy gets a boner and is suddenly motivated to put in some work nerfing it. Meanwhile looking at the positive traits and occupations the situation is even more retarded, because there are a handful of traits that really do something useful and the rest of them are truly useless. For example even if you wanted to do a meme Nurse or Doctor playthrough, you get nothing for it and the entire First Aid skill itself is still a joke. At least its easy enough to balance this for yourself by adding free trait points in sandbox (basically a must with how retarded the balancing is right now, unless you just love grinding).

>>2193634
>I would say most negative traits offer negatives that might be interesting for at least a roleplay scenario.
They don't. They're basically just 'fucking kick me in the balls' modifiers that you would never use outside of a meme-run.
60 fucking percent of them are so fucked up that nobody uses them.

>>2193627
Reminds me of the muscle strain system on release, before even the redditfags bullied Lemmy into toning it down. I have it set to 0.1 now, which makes it only come into play if you're going ham on exercise.

>>2193636
I think I have it set to 0.2, but I haven't tested it lately.
Ideally it should only be an issue if you're untrained, a trained strongman should be able to swing all day.

>>2193635
Again though, that would be fine if the overall balancing wasn't so miserable. The problem is Lemmy has misunderstood the whole idea of "losing is fun" from games like DF. You can throw challenges and obstacles at the player, but you don't take away from the core gameplay loop or try to make the challenge a matter of enduring pure tedium. Lemmy looked at players fighting lots of zombies, enjoying one of the mechanics he actually got feeling decent (melee combat) and decided "nah, you can only fight like 6 zombies before muscle strain would set in". The traits are the same thing, people found meta builds, and instead of buffing/reworking more traits to create more options he just nerfs all the numbers. Getting a decent amount of meat from animals? Forget about it. Fish? Nerfed. Default loot settings? Default skill XP multipliers? Lol, lmao. You have to balance the whole game yourself to have any shot at enjoying it.

>>2193638
Maybe if he was naked and not carrying anything

>>2193646
Yeah except ingame your musclebound super-athlete will get their muscles nuked by swinging a bat a couple dozen times.

>TFW they delayed bowmaking because to match reality it will take at minimum an entire year to season the wood properly
>Two years if you want the bow to last longer

>>2193648
Beating bodies to a pulp is hard work

>>2193651
You're headshotting them, not pulping their bodies.
Doing lethal braindamage to a person is...Actually easier than people think.
Drunken retards do it to their best friends all the time.

>>2193649
wypipo dont season they wood

>>2193594
>>Why is this not called Asthmatic?
Same reason why they changed some of the trait names.

>>2193655
And the reason being?

>>2193655
occupation names*

>>2193656
Profound mental retardation.

>>2187613
>>2187621
"teenage" zombies have been in the game for awhile. Theyre found around the school and im 90% sure theyre meant to be sophomores and seniors instead of being full blown kids

>>2193714
They are literally called 'young' in code and carry childish items, not teenage items.
Shut the fuck up Lemmy.

>>2193715
???????????????????????????? what does lemmy have to do with this LMAO. The "childish" "kid" zombies use the clearly grown ass man model

>>2193733
We get it, you're a normalfag who can't think unless it's directly fed to you.
Yes, you didn't have breakfast this morning, we understand.

>>2193737
the redditors are glazing niggers and the 4channers are actually deranged retards i can only imagine what horrors lie on Discord

>>2193748
Lemmy your bot broke down again and is talking about irrelevant stuff.

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>>2193655

>>2193805
Renaming Fisherman to Angler is so stupid because there's a trait with an identical name..

>>2193807
sexist pig

>>2193808
They could've just had traits selected after character gender is selected.
Then just rename the traits "Fisherman" "Fisherwoman", etc.

>>2193805
>Project LessThanLivingFolksoid

>>2193805
damn I didnt even realize it was gay gender shit that they renamed for

>>2193388
>The most optimal way to grind should be a recipe called "train skill" using the normal supplies associated with the skill.
Stop making sense right fucking now

>>2193593
>Viable, just fast forward or set books to be quicker to read, meh
I appreciate the effort but I am afraid that I stopped reading here. If you are going to change settings, you may as well just give yourself some free trait points. And I do not say that like it is some act of a shitter. The trait point balance is completely fucked up and dogshit, you should not be forced to take terrible perks just to have an occupation. Just give yourself like 12 free trait points so you can play as a normal person.

>>2193859
There's a difference between slow-reader which can be literally fast forwarded, and all-thumbs where you can and will be assraped by a zombie because you took too long to bring an axe out of your bag.
Maybe read the rest of the post, I know you struggle to read being a smoothbrained nigger and all.

>>2193865
what would reading the rest of the it change? If you are changing settings in the first place to offset the terrible balance just give yourself more trait points to offset the terrible balance. No need to be rude faggot.

>>2193868
>Literal retarded nigger can't figure out the difference between a timewaster mechanic and one where time actually can get you killed

>>2193871
Are you retarded? The point is not the slow reader perk. The point is the changing of settings. Here I read the rest
>Slow learner
Viable, less XP gains sucks but who gives a shit, turn up XP if you need to
If you are going to turn up XP just give yourself more trait points as well.
hint stupid faggot: this is a comment on the act of changing the settings. Not on the Slow learner perk.

>>2193875
Then just mentally ignore that part? Oh shit wait that might be too hard for you.

>>2193876
Yeah, we'll just pretend you aren't retarded.

>>2193887
>Projecting

>>2193511
The average Kentuckian in 1993 didn't know how to hang objects from their neck.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/108600/announcements/detail/637955472778857065
>Added Plastering in MP
plasterbros we're so fucking back

brb plastering my bro's face

god I want to plaster a hot zombie slut

Why do people compare this game to the sims again?

>>2194196
because it looks like the original sims 1 which was an isometric game

>>2194196
Make a base and live the peaceful base life for a few weeks and you'll see.

>>2194202
>>2194224
There's a sims game with zero NPCs? Damn that almost entirely defeats the purpose of the name being plural kek.

>>2194196
Grid system lik the sims, the way almost all objects have some sort of interaction like the sims, have to maintain "needs" like a sim, sleep like a sim, decorating even with non interactive items (dolls, computers, posters etc) works like the sims.

There's even a set of mods with a sims theme and it gave you sims 3 customization with the same UI but that was B41, not sure if they ever ported it over to B42.

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>>2194196
the game's design is heavily inspired by The Sims 1
TIS themselves started off as modders for The Sims 3 and Civ 5

>>2194196
>>2194315
Oh yeah this screenshot reminded me >>2194324
Pause and fast forward buttons like the sims

>>2194315
>>2194324
god imagine if we did get sims but with zombies, with the controllable character like zomboid but with all of the features and characters of the sims.

>>2194664
Literal money printer

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>>2186428
Well, let's look at the roadmap, shall we? This roadmap was created something to the tune of four years ago. Has B42 expanded on crafting? Yes. Did it expand on the balance? ....sort of, more on that later. As for npc's, frankly, no. They later clarified like two years ago that "stage 1 npc's are actually uhm, like, farm animals and stuff!" which - by that metric, sure, they did do that.
But when this roadmap was released it was strongly implied, and thus everyone strongly inferred, that the kinds of npc's being talked about would be something like basic bandits and survivors, or perhaps hostile soldiers that attack the player; expectations set as far back as some of the game's earliest story mode builds. So, five years of development and what did we get?
Crafting overhauls that largely no one cares about and is incredibly frustrating to work with unless you set your server material resources to very abundant (which is still fucking annoying because of weight limits unless you have a whole crew hauling shit back and forth)
Combat changes that almost universally are dogshit because they STILL don't want to fix the real issue with firearms (though they added a noise modifier to server settings so you can fix it yourself jej)
An actually pretty good overhaul of the stealth mechanic so it is now worth using. A lighting system overhaul, better graphics..
And animal husbandry which is janky and shit and not really worth it even for long term survival. Four years. Remember that: four years. I'm repeating myself because it's important.
Four years. Baldur's Gate 3 entered early access and then hit full release before build 42 unstable came out. An entire US presidential cycle came and went. If you started college when this roadmap released, you'd be graduating before build 42 has a stable release (maybe next year fellas!)
Cont.'d

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>>2194894
Ahem. The worst part is that there are mods that already add the functionality most people expected into the game, like Week One Bandits, or Zombified Wildlife.
To make matters worse, they even removed content like Kingsmouth, which had to be forward ported back into B42 unstable with mods. Honestly most of the things I'd praise them for was adding a much larger variety of variables to tweak in server settings, like being able to randomize zombie behaviors and specs.
I don't think b42 is necessarily a bad update, but it is very...whelming. And that's not a good thing when it takes four years to make an unstable early access build of your game.
This is to my knowledge the most recent roadmap. We're only two thirds of the way towards B42 stable optimistically.
That means at the very earliest we get B43 unstable is next year, and I think that's overly optimistic. They still haven't actually expanded on the combat, either - granted there's mods for that, but I deeply struggle with the notion that it's a good excuse. I don't think it is.
They also removed the aim outline for shooting, even if you prefer to toggle the old shooting system on over the new one. Speaking of: the new one sucks. I mean, it's way more effective, but in terms of mechanical depth it is dogshit. You just point and click.
The problem with firearms was never their reliability, it was the fact that they made so much noise that every zombie in the city would converge on your location when you shot, even if you had the zombies set to be borderline deaf and have the memory of a goldfish. There was never, ever, EVER a situation in which shooting your gun was an optimal or even acceptable strategy unless you wanted to draw zombies to a certain location and even then, it was easier to use somehing like an alarm to do that. They should've kept the aim outline from B41 and lowered the default noise multiplier to .75 (Default is 2) while adding more weapon variety.

>>2194931
>all the way to B48
good lord it will be the year 2050 by the time we get unstable B48

>>2188445
topkek thanks anon

>>2190417
>>2190420
>take frozen bread out to thaw
>finally get to eat it hours (hours) later
>afflicted with crippling muscle strain and discomfort, for realism

>>2194936
Unironically, yeah. I used to not give so much of a shit about devtime when I was a teenager and young college student, but I'm pushing 30 now and games I was excited for in highschool still aren't finished. And to be clear, I'd qualify zomboid as finished once it has all the features it promised to implement in its full release back in '11.
...which would be about the time B48 drops.

>>2190417
>>2190420
>>2194944
At least they patched cooking so you can't just cook rotten food to make it fresh again, kek

B48 is clearly the "Polish" update, why are you guys expecting a good game without bugs before then?

>>2195017
>why do you expect a good game after 16 years of development??

>>2195020
In fairness I can't think of a single game that had 16 years of dev time and wasn't absolute fucking garbage so TIS are on target with that.

>>2195017
actually we are calling it the polish update because by the time it's out the original team will have all retired and the project outsourced to underpaid poles

>>2195017
But why are they waiting until B48 to add polish? What do they have against poland?

>>2195022
trvke, you got me

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>>2193805
>repairer

>>2193594
>Slow learner
Basically free now because all the shit you used to have to do to grind XP is now worthless unless you change all of that in server settings.
>Illiterate
This isn't as bad as it seems because of the above too, there's not much point sitting around and reading skill books anymore unless you decide to take slow learner.
>Weak
I don't know if it got patched yet but currently you can work out infinitely while sitting down, so...
>Thin Skinned
What this actually does is multiply the the incoming damage chance of not just zombies but any kind of environmental hazard too like injuring yourself picking up glass, or foraging, or climbing, or tripping, or working on your car, etc. by 1.5x
Actually one of the worst traits in the game.
Also I dislike that they removed shit like Obese and replaced it with slow metabolism even if slow metabolism is functionally better. Speaking of, it actually makes surviving at the at all stages of the game way easier because of its special hidden ability: if your weight is 90 or below, all food you consume contributes to your weight 1.3x its base nutritional value. This makes actually maintaining a healthy weight really easy. It's basically free points.
>Reluctant Fighter
If you pair it with Fast Learner you get a huge bonus to every non combat skill and a 5% boost to every combat skill for basically free.
>Hearty Appetite
Pair it with slow metabolism and you again basically get free points.
>Cowardly
Pair it with Adrenaline Junkie to turn it into a positive trait, though I don't think it's particularly good it does offset the negative aspects of the trait.
>High Thirst
This is actually not as bad as it seems. It's only a .50x modifier to your thirst. Instead of carrying around a bunch of water, just carry a bottle or canteen on your person, some backup water in your car, and take sippies from water sources you find (which are common). Building troughs is a great way to create renewable water because they fill with rain

>>2193593
>>2193594
Sunday Driver also isn't as bad as it seems because it only applies a .35x penalty to your max acceleration and start up forward/backward acceleration. The only time it would matter is if your car is getting swarmed by zombies which makes you a bad player. It's really a free point because most of the time its only actually safe to drive at around the sunday driver's max acceleration range. I guess if you're driving a huge fuckoff mega van it also matters, but most of the time the +1 is worth it if your build needs an extra point to round it out.
Conspicuous is actually way worse than it seems if you want to use stealth because of how it fucks with other stats under the hood.

>>2195066
Sunday driver nukes the already shitty offroad acceleration. As in a shitty car might not actually be able to get off of grass/shrubs.

>>2193634
What gets me is the non-retard solution to first aid/nurse and doctor professions is pretty simple: give nurse and doctor class specific traits that buff characters they use healing items on including themselves.
>I bandage myself: bandage lasts (x) amount of time before getting dirty, fuhg
>Doctor bandages me: It now lasts longer because he's more skilled at bandaging wounds, and he bandages it faster to boot! Wow! And he can do it in a way that reduces pain!
>Dr. Feelgood can also make various drug cocktails that can do useful things, like give a minor hp regeneration effect, or increase strength, or running speed, or endurance regeneration, or settles an upset tummy because I ate bad food out of desperation, et. al. fucking useful things doctors do in other survival games
All professions have hidden foraging bonuses by the way. Doctors and nurses find more medical related items when foraging, so I'd also make those classes have bonus XP for first aid as part of their hidden effects. I'd have every class actually have bonus XP for at least one related skill though since, unlike lemmy, I don't hate fun

>>2195071
That's true, I didn't think of that since I usually don't take cares off roading very often unless I need to drive around something.

>>2193108
you can already experience this with Bandits by the way
>>2193642
I am convinced that the reason Lemmy set the default dismantle multiplier to 0 and maxed out media level ups to 3 was because he didn't know how to fix the infinite reset bug where someone could quit the game after getting their XP dump from a TV program, quite and reload as long as its still airing time, and start rewatching the same episode for another XP dump.

>>2194196
Early builds of the game looked exactly like the sims before they switched to 3D models and made the game look like shit.

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>>2195083
I actually don't mind that dismantling no longer gives EXP and that it's something you do for utility now like "oh I need to get into that room but there's no window to smash or that'd be too loud I'll just dismantle the door" or "oh I need parts for my car, I'll just cannibalize this one off the road"
It always felt like shit being somewhat suboptimal not constantly tearing things apart for mechanical/carp. EXP. It's nice that we're no longer pressed to be that autistic, but the lack of a replacement or a bonus to default XP gains on those skills makes levelling them up way harder than they should be.

>>2194196
Women love this game because it's basically the Sims but you control one directly.

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>>2195092
>mfw no baddie zomboid GF

What is most unforgiveable to me is that I can no longer create Paul Blart, Mall Cop because Lemmy hates fat fucks I guess

>>2189425
>unstable
This is why. If you want clean performance no mods, go play B41 stable. You can expect the game's performance to suck ass for about another year before B42 stable comes out.

Zombies biting through kevlar vests makes sense because they're BULLETPROOF vests not KNIFEPROOF vests! Fucking chuds.
>This is what the zomboid community actually believes

>A tree branch has CONSIDERABLY greater combat stats than a stone hammer
>Despite being made FROM a tree branch

>Zomboid is a realistic zombie game
>That's why when you're tired and swinging far far weaker, your weapons get MORE damaged quicker!
>Instead of less damaged as you're swinging it less hard
I remember this one time when I had a sledgehammer IRL and I lightly tapped a wall a couple hundred times and the hammer exploded.

Stop fucking complaining, B42 is called "Unstable" for a reason

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>>2195189
>>2195214
>>2195218
Ah yes, my favorite realistic zombie game where the only people in kentucky with firearms are the military, the police, and the occasional VERY rare right wing extremist, almost nobody drives a truck, nobody owns a jeep, the military didn't bother sending any of their own armored vehicles, and last but certainly not least: nobody is capable of swimming.
You know, actually, swamp/lake zombies would be a really kino variant. Maybe there could be a meta event flag for fishing where you might get attacked by a waterlogged zombie.

>>2189893
How even is Bannerlord these days? Is the modding scene decent?

>They stealth nerfed fishing like a month ago and nobody fucking said a thing about it
>They also stealth nerfed spears at the same time
>But yesterday they turbo-buffed fishing with a new 'legendary' system and increased fish sizes
>Still nobody talking about this
Does anybody in the 'zomboid community' actually fucking play this retarded game? After every patch I generally find the changes just by playing the actual game.
What gives?

>>2195276
I don't fish because there's no point in doing that. I also don't use spears because there's no point in doing that now either and hasn't been since muscle strain was introduced.

>>2195284
Spears were incredibly useful with muscle strain because they had a unique instakill on crit property, which has since been nerfed/removed.
NOW they are pretty much worthless though.
Fishing is great if you want to calorie-maxx without buttermaxxing.

>>2195270
Not that anon but it still has a long way to go to get to where Warbands was at its modding prime. The game was unstable and broke mods regularly for so fucking long there's relatively few major mod projects going (which could be the future for PZ too, if the devs fuck around for too long). In fact the first time I even saw a stable and good full conversion mod for it was late last year, when Shokuho came out.

>>2195276
Maybe because it isn't even mentioned anywhere in the patch notes and its often impossible to even know what is intended and unintended behavior in this fucking game.

>>2195349
I fished a lake and even with high fishing skill, was getting dogshit and never once a 'legendary' fish
Put the game down for a week, suddenly getting 30kg paddlefish and legendary 26 kilogram waleyes instead lmao.
You would literally have to not play the game to not notice this.

>>2195290
you can still stab through fences so that's something

>>2195366
Being near fences in the current build is a meme because if the zombies thump against the fence your character shits theirself

>>2195367
but why

>>2195369
Who knows!
Zombies smashing doors down, breaking windows, chasing you while ON FIRE?
Character is just fine! Right as rain!
Zombies smacking a fence, even OUTSIDE LINE OF SIGHT?
INSTANT STRESS MAXXED!

>>2194894
>Has B42 expanded on crafting?
Yes, but in a very half-assed no-fun allowed way. Nobody dicks with blacksmithing, the fucking posterchild of the new system, because the only way to get a setup running is to build literally everything from scratch, from the bricks to the anvil (I mean, they do spawn naturally, but they're rarer than katanas). The improvised railroad setup we saw in a teaser someodd years ago is all but memoryholed, and all the Mad Max style scrap metal stuff has been rolled into a distinct welding tree that might as well be a mod for B41 for all the mechanical changes it adds. The community-based "carpenter-tailor-blacksmith" setup they talked about in a Thursdoid also turned out to be 50% bullshit, since armor is made in one step that requires both the given skill and tailoring, so your tailor is never gonna be a different guy than your blacksmith/welder/whatever-the-fuck. I guess binding heads to handles is a different step than making the handle (and requires maintenance 1 because fuck you), and you need a guy to carve the handle if you can't find one. The map update is pretty cool, though.

>>2195381
>Bench Anvils spawn in warehouses
>Logical ersatz blacksmith anvil, right?
>Lol no actually they have ZERO PURPOSE! Get fucked!

>swing once
>exhausted
>tired
>muscle strain
>killing a zombie takes a solid 30 swings
lol

>>2195560
Its a simulator, not a casual arcade game.

>>2194664
Zomboid is The Sims, except you need to steal all the furniture

>>2195384
You can melt it down into metal to cast your blacksmith anvil :)

They need to introduce "unfinished" crafts/buildings like rimworld and df have, so that there can be more useful things that are a higher time investment but you can chip away at at different opportune times. Like if you have a high enough carpentry/carving/sewing or whatever and the materials you could make any furniture in the game but it might take a long time.

weren't the crafted items supposed to have a quality level to them that depended on how high your crafting skill is? What happened to that?

>dandelion void will have multiplayer
zoomboid is fucked

>>2195663
That's not the right kind of realism, so no.

>>2195668
Not sold that its a perfect replacement for PZ yet, but without knowing literally anything about their devs I still know that game will be feature complete before PZ has even dropped B43, lmao.

>>2195092
>It's basically the sims but it only has one sim

>>2195596
>Zomboid is Sims except it lacks the defining feature that makes the Sims what it is

>>2195667
>Please be at least level 9 to start getting 'above average' grade items, ideally WITH the magazine in your inventory

>>2195560
Sorry but all swings are now precision based. You have to find the pixel perfect sweet spot to get strong hits instead of having stats calculate your hti chance when you swing in the weapon's range :)

>>2195381
Lemmy is like Sean Murray if Sean was actually a grifter instead of incidentally one. At least Sean fixed his game instead of improving one thing in exchange for making another element shittier

>>2195370
>instant stress maxxed!
To punish you for trying to stab them through the fence with your spear and cheese lemmy's game

>>2195262
different kinds of zombies would be really cool, yeah. Like wet zombies that can crawl out of the river, the various lakes/ponds, or maybe even spawn in tubs in infested houses, etc.
https://youtu.be/adubMSIXSFM?t=10
hostile zombified animals would be dope also and add an element of needing to build adequete protection for your farm animals and regularly cull zombies in areas you hunt in to preserve your healthy population of butcherable meat
or like, zombified birds or bats or whatever that could attack the player
rare "boss" type enemies alternatively would be a great addition to the game, but I doubt that'll ever happen

>>2196376
>you approach a tub
>meta event chance to spawn a water zombie that crawls out of the tub, panicmaxxing your character
Would be kino. Also, technically there's a kind of framework available for mini-boss type enemies. You can designate a random number of zombies spawned in a cell to be sprinters or crawlers regardless of what the zombies are globally set to in the server settings. There also used to be a mod that could give zombies "costumes" that made them look different and have different animations, so it should be possible to create different classes of zombie. Honestly my favorite feature of B42 has been the ability to randomize zombie attributes and behaviors in the sandbox settings, it made them way more dangerous and interesting by being unpredictable

My character finally got the cold, despite no humans being around to actually transmit a human-borne disease.
They aren't joking when they say you'll sneeze/cough constantly. It's literally every 2.5 seconds.

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Project Zomboid is one of the most realistic game on the market, raw eggs killing you in a day or two is highly realistic behavior.
Picrel, man who died approximately 10 minutes later from a terrifying fever.
The US military currently is researching on how it can powderize burnt food and raw eggs, to drop over cities for mass-killing events.

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Similarly the Japanese are researching ways to mass-kill huge swathes of population, as Project Zomboid features the same bioweapon that kills you faster than ebola.
Picrel the biological terror of aquatic origin

I find it amusing how you can catch a 40 kilogram Paddlefish with like 400 hunger reduction.
And somehow it becomes 2 2kg fillets with 200 hunger reduction each

>>2186914
There was a wilderness/medieval map mod that tried to do something similar once. I think it was for B40 or 41.

Never understood why people make mods for games where every second patch breaks mod compatibility and shit.
I made some mods for Stalker CoP, I wouldn't have made said mods if I knew next week my mod would be totally redundant or broken.

>>2196497
to be fair mods worked for years when we only had B41
they still do work if you didn't go to the beta branch

>>2196543
It's not a 'beta' branch it's just the newest update to the game.
They just give it a special snowflake title for plausible deniability.

>>2196545
you have to opt into it using the beta branch option on steam

>>2196554
And Joe Biden was 'voted' by 81 million people. What's your point?

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>>2196556

>>2196560
2020's is more retarded than any other period of human history, retard commies trying to change reality just by saying shit.

>>2196556
His point, retard, is that it took four years for the beta branch to open. If you buy Project Zomboid and click install right now, it will only install B41. The only way to access B42 is to go into Steam's configuration window and reinstall the game after opting in to the unstable beta branch. There are approximately 40000 mods for B41 and like 5000 for B42, and most of those are just edits of B41 mods to make them compatible with the current unstable patch instead of new mods. If you go read posts by mod makers, like the guy who made the Week One mod, he actively seethes that Project Zomboid has multiple fork repositories; a big shitshow was about him deciding to only continue development on whatever the most current build of the game is, making everyone on B41 cry.

>>2196569
And if you buy The Isle, it defaults to the legacy version of the game that isn't even the same fucking game, while "Evrima" is on beta-only opt-in.
B42 is the current version of the game, it's not a beta, it's just the newest update.

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>>2196570
>the current version of the game is the one that steam doesn't install when you click install game

>>2196574
>FUCK! The players keep criticizing the newest version of our game, the one we spent like 5 fucking years making!
>IDEA! What if we make it opt-in?
>Oh come the fuck on nobody is that stupid, nobody would say that its just some...Beta that's 5 fucking years in the making! It's just our newest build Lemmy
>Do it, lets see what happens! The dumbass goycattle don't work off of reality they work off of words!
And then it proceeded to work exactly as expected due to retarded people and the game was immune to criticism forever!

>>2196579
Except this is how the game was always developed; when B40 was the main version of the game and B41 was in development, it was also an opt in beta. You're allowed to criticize B42 but you keep insisting like a retard that it's the current patch. It's not. It's the early access beta test for the next patch which still isn't out yet and probably won't be out for another year because lemmy is a grifting fag. You're outing yourself as a newnigger right now.

>>2196600
>You can only criticize B42 in 5 years when B43 is out! CHUD!
Lol

>>2196606
I literally just said you can criticize B42 (I have multiple times in this thread) I just want you to stop being retarded by calling it the current patch when it isn't
Take your meds.

>>2196613
>B42 isn't the current patch
This is your brain on drugs.

>>2196413
>The US military currently is researching on how it can powderize burnt food and raw eggs, to drop over cities for mass-killing events.
I'm pretty sure that's what caused the infection, actually.

>>2196707
Yes, correct, B42's beta is early access. It WILL BE the patch after it enters stable release. You'll know when this happens because when you click Install Game, it will install B42 instead of B41. Hope that helps :)

2196742
B8ing in 2026

old interview with RJ about the game. its in french though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMWlIdP7rUs

>>2196749
That's not an argument. Try again but this time do it without crying.

>>2196569
based trvthnuker

>Project Zomboid hasnt gotten an update in 7 years
grim

>>2196388
The missed opportunities when it comes to meta and random events is staggering. The game is 13 years old and we have:
>helicopter event that barely makes logical sense to even occur ONCE, this is the only major event that can really do something if you get caught out by it
>random gunshots triggering some migration
>zombies triggering house alarms (not even a default setting for some reason)
>a fox that eats chickens occasionally
And that's it. 13 years.

>>2197073
There's a lot of meta events, but most of them are subtle or basically just easter eggs, and you have to enable most of them in the server settings by hand. E.g. you can actually encounter Jason Vorhees ... sort of. It's just a zombie with a unique outfit.
Honestly most of the meta events (survivor wrecks, survivor homes and annotated maps, dead survivors, et. al.) seem like they should just be enabled by default. Others seem like complete "why the fuck would I ever want that?" like being randomly attacked by zombies when you sleep.
The helicopter event is also pretty cool as an easter egg from the scene in Dead Rising's intro where Frank takes a bunch of pictures from his helicopter without trying to help anyone. I wish there were other "big" meta events though, for example an acid rain meta event would be neat. Other anons have mentioned it but Week One adds a lot of cool meta events too, like bombing runs from the military and a nuke + nuclear fallout

>>2197073
Always turn meta-situations to as high as you can.
The game is way more fun when you actually encounter campers, military enclaves, raiders, armored zombies, jason, etc.

>Oh shit, oh fuck! Not the DREADED HELICOPTER EVEN!
>In the middle of the fucking woods
>Not a single zombie showed up because the areas around me were cleared a week ago
>Helicopter is programmed to never show up again
Why are predditors so afraid of the helicopter? Are they afraid it'll lure zombies to their retarded Sims 2 constructed house?
I set the damned thing to show up 'sometimes' because showing up once is a joke.

>>2197153
>I set the damned thing to show up 'sometimes' because showing up once is a joke.
Mechanically, yeah, its a good idea to have it set to sometimes for some minor added challenge. But logically why is there a chopper coming back week after week, month after month into the apocalypse, to just watch a single survivor?

>>2197190
We don't ever see the chopper.
Lore-wise you could excuse it easily.
First one is a news helicopter, trying to find out what's going on in the zone.
Second one is a military scout chopper.
From then on, it's rare survivor choppers or glowie enclave choppers.

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>>2197190

Dread dawn is a piece of shit but it made me realize that zomboid would truly be a much better and probably a more complete game if they stuck to their original vision and based the game around scenarios with lightly scripted events and NPCs.

>>2197193
Okay, so I buy all that, but then after 13 years where is at least the bare bones couple of NPC survivor/glowie/bandit/military scripted encounters a fucking retard should have been able to add to the game by now. Where is some kind of basic ass narrative told over local survivor and military radio stations and broadcasts past 2 weeks? Why are the devs like this.

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>>2197102
>campers, military enclaves, raiders

>>2197153
People afraid of the helicopter generally are in areas with big zombie populations and don't want to have them swarming around near their home, prefab or constructed. This is especially true in the current unstable build due to muscle strain making it harder to fight more than like a dozen zombies before needing a break.
I have it set to sometimes and then once I hit max erosion (90 days) I turn it off in sandbox settings with the change settings mod. I also play with 1 hour days.

>>2197681
They don't exist as npc's, just "aftermaths" if that makes sense, is what I assume he's talking about.
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Metagame
Scroll down to "stories"
Another example of these meta events are finding recently deceased survivors who committed suicide, netting you their firearm
Like anons said before, the game is way more fun with them cranked as high as possible. I also recommend randomizing your zombies as much as possible.

>>2197850
>They don't exist as npc's, just "aftermaths" if that makes sense, is what I assume he's talking about.
I'm aware of that, but the way it was portrayed made his claim seem as if there was something more interesting going on than just vaguely themed detritus.

>>2197923
They often add revised locations and overworld sites (like camping sites that otherwise wouldn't be there, wrecks on the road, destroyed military mini checkpoints, etc.) in addition to the themed zombies or loot corpses. It adds some needed life and flavor to the overworld imo
It'd be neat if when we get official npc support that we get more meta events for them. I'm surprised we only have 1 meta event for the animals that got added last year.

>Week One Bandits
>Go to the Rosewood Complex early
>Bizarrely, the military doesn't attack me, maybe because I selected Veteran as my class? Idk
>Anyway I just walked around the upper complex, found some keys (lucky!!) and then went downstairs and turned off the nuke
>Decided to live there for the first week since there's tons of supplies and plenty of friendly npc's
>The fucking police attack us on day 4 trying to break into the facility
>Fight them off, I eat a bullet to the groin and get some other injuries that miraculously does not kill me thanks to the medical supplies on hand
>Wipe out five patrols cars and two swat teams worth of cops
>Day 5, zombies appear
>Only a few though in the parking lot, but the upper building is so fucked I just retreat downstairs to sleep it off and heal
>spent day 6 resupplying, go back topside
>eerily quiet
>it was a fucking slaughterhouse, zombies everywhere, the place was completely overrun
>retreat back downstairs, lock the doors behind me
I'm so fucked once power and food runs out. There's plenty of ammo down here so my plan is to basically carry some ammo and weapon piles to the two main stairways back to the top to create caches I can fall back to when I run out of the stuff I can actually carry on my person.