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Olvia Academy is open, get free stuff Edition
>What is BDO
Black Desert Online is a Korean MMORPG developed by Pearl Abyss. It features non-tab targeted action combat, RNG, guaranteed upgrade mechanics after you spend 4 times the item's worth and then they give the item away for free, more RNG, brand new fun pvp modes trust me, open world pvp and bullying/getting bullied, coomer outfits like slutkinis, shondoms, real rootin' tootin' American cowgirls, monkeys, infinite grinding in a circle or a private circle, +5% AP caps, RNG and a pseudo sandbox experience that doesn't matter now that marni exists.
>News and Updates
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Notice
https://www.kr.playblackdesert.com/ko-KR/News/Notice
https://www.sea.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Notice
https://www.global-lab.playblackdesert.com/News/Notice
>coupon codes, gear builder and grind spots info
https://garmoth.com/
https://bdolytics.com/en/NA
>waste your money sheets
https://bdoworkshop.com/
Kharas:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aDMV3351YbrExLyudvvXFhhD_WIQoS _q-4hnbaPOho0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Sov weapons:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19lMMmYTbvMy8HOxwMv9LFpwZrko_rd CHcQuv-Nb85g0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
>guilds
NA: Jealousy
EU: Cuties
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what i do? goon my peenus weanus of course!
hahaha! :D
top activity to do in BDO: jork your weeeanus peeeanus! hahaha!
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>>2218141
You know an MMO is dead when all they do is just give massive "free" material packs on the regular. Lost Ark does this too because its a cheap way to bribe brown players (the only ones left) without actually fixing anything.
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>>2218230
That's not the BDO/PA problem, they cornered their own progression paths for anyone that is not a vet with a 780+ GS. The game is a mess once you grow out of Tuvala and realize the TET to PEN Bossgear is a trap and PEN Bossgear to C10 and Base FG is another scam. Then you got a market showing so much gear that could be removed from the game as it has no purpose or right to exist anymore leading to more confusion etc.
They cleaned up some of the mess they created since Debos and Sovs with the academy and latest ball gifts.
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>>2218265
The way they've been going about new gear has been horrible. Imo tapping tet to pen was a lot healthier and was less of a slog, and you also had caphras levels too so if you just weren't a lucky person you could still get those guaranteed stat increases. Hex to dec is like banging your head against that same pen wall 5 times in a row except now you absolutely can't afford to raw tap those later enhancements anymore. I dunno man it just feels bad having to rely on crons so much these days, and yeah sure they give out a lot of crons for free but that's a band-aid solution for an issue they created.
I don't really know what problem 5 more enhancement levels were supposed to address?
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>>2218230
They conflated content with progression. World's too big. Incentive structure broke down into a massively stratified and largely pointless grind-climb. There was a kind of consistency which was still in play right up until about Ulukita - only just. LoML was already a big misstep by many accounts and the decision to repackage all the gear and add a bunch of new tiers was a bridge too far. People have lives and there's no cohesion because the top is way too big of an ask to reach. There seems to be no balance they're willing to strike between what compels players to login, play & progress against what generates profits for the company. The ocean of crons and outfit melting is not just a bad system, in my opinion it's what has caused the fucked up mindset to endlessly add new gear and progression. You can't fix this. Cron stones are the signal "you will never reach the cap, you will never be able to rest, the system will fight you the whole way and in a singular patch we can add hundreds of hours of progressive-RNG which you either must grind or swipe for".
It's too much.
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>>2218406
I totally agree, it's a band aid to treat a shot wound. PA lost control of their own systems and progression. I guess they wanted some quick money, so just add a new tiers and tards like Bald Legion swiped for $4k+ to get an DEC weapon on release day but for anyone else it's a mess. Yeah we got new grind zones pumping even more silver into a hyper inflated market but that's about it.
I still enjoy the game and play it daily and it's just sad, this game could be sooo damn good but oh well.
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>>2218450
Koreans are literally a different species. Their mind is unironically wired to love this. They WANT this. It's surreal to see them chatting in their own moon runes. They get mad if a game isn't p2w enough. They get mad if a game isn't entirely about vertical progression and nonstop daily and narrow content as homework.
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>>2218526
>They get mad if a game isn't p2w enough
This is literally why throne and liberty failed in korea, which I always thought it was funny since it failed in the west for entirely different reasons. It didn't fail over there because it was a terrible mmo, it failed because they were mad that there was no prospect of them being able to whale and 1v60 entire guilds, and when you're competing with lineage 2 in korea by making a pvp mmo you'd better bet your ass they expect lineage 2 levels of p2w.
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I think progression is fine up to a point, then it starts to get absurd with NOV/DEC weapons required to do edania bosses or for top spots.
It's a "92 is the half of 99" situation where AP capped gear for orbita is around 1 trillion, and the next step requires 3 to 5T. So even worse than half.
I think it's by design to slow people down while they worked on crimson desert, so h(c)opefully it'll get better from now on.
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Bunch of whiny bitches up in here. BDO embraces the simple and straightforward grind. It's what made games like old school Maplestory great, and why everyone is excited for the reboot. Why does everyone pine for that time? Because simplicity of objective is greatness. BDO captures aspects of that well at a time when nearly no other MMO does the same.
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>>2219218
You're actually fucking retarded lol. The new gear is basically the equivalent of nexon adding cubes to the game eternally powercreeping everything "old school" and you're sitting here deepthroating the devs over it. Dumbass.
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>>2219325
I saw this tamer once
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>>2219298
Shai are uggo
>>2219325
Tamers with big thighs are the closest we have to Elin so I agree
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i'll tame-her if you know what i mean
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Olvium Frontia!
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>>2219537
>timegates
The timegates aren't for you. 2-3 Edana armor taps per week are 10b in crons. The weekly taps for the alchemy stone cost 12b in sharps. 6 DEC Kharazad taps per week are 65b in crons. To reach the ceiling of the "timegate" you will need to be grinding 13b per day, every day. Be real. The timegate is here to keep the gigawhales on a short leash so they can return and dump a few hundreds or thousands every week.
>AP caps
Before the rework, every sheet AP gave you 1 AP to monsters plus 2-3 for every bracket you reached. With the new system, every sheet AP gives you 10 AP to monsters plus the brackets. So, the new 5% AP cap is closer to 50% AP cap with the old system, the only difference is that the species AP now doesn't ignore the AP cap.
With the addition of Amplified lightstones and extra attackspeed from Vell upgrades, you will be outperforming your own scores in older grindspots by a mile compared to what you used to if you were grinding at a spot, let's say DSR, with capped gear and Ain succ weapons.
You sound like you are not playing the game and you are parroting opinions of youtubers. I'm not saying the game doesn't have problems, it's just that the ones you are complaining about are nothingburgers.
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Well what a nice night of fishing
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Only demons still play this game
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lil sissy bro assumed a lot of things and made up several scenarios in his sissy little head, he wasn't worth a (you) desu
13b a day isn't even much btw, not sure what kind of gearlet you are but you can earn more than you need for all your weekly taps, and it isn't correct as anyone who can earn 2-3 edana stones should have 1 or 2 DEC kharas already so you need less.
but here i am, arguing with retards
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>>2219537
Erm actually weekly gated quests isn't timegating, ackshually. Plus like, it's totally optional, dude, just don't do the weekly timegated content that objectively gives a lot of money and rewards? It's a sandbox MMO bro, you can take the significantly slower route of not doing your weekly timegated checklist and basically grief your progression if you want to.
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>>2220704
Well despite all of the dooming and objectively terrible changes they've made to the game, BDO is still a pretty solid MMORPG that's avoided turning itself into a colossal shitshow of an embarrassment over the years, which is already a very low bar to begin with. Are we really surprised about Ashes though? Most of us said it was a scam from day 1, warned people about it for years, they didn't listen and decided to buy into the blatant scam game. The only sad part is that the people who bought it are getting refunds when they shouldn't be. Idiots should be punished so they can learn their lesson and stop supporting shit games.
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>he quoted something that i cannot ctrl+f in the thread, i'm going insaaane!
i am using the greentext quoting feature to misrepresent, distort, or otherwise take out of context what the other person says to construct my argument in a way that makes him look stupid and me intelligent.
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>>2221161
>i am using the greentext quoting feature to misrepresent, distort, or otherwise take out of context what the other person says to construct my argument in a way that makes him look stupid and me intelligent.
This is so me
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This thread sucks. Can we just not make another when this one dies?
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>>2221076
Being somewhat realistic though - most games (at least alternatives to BDO) are in a sorry state. BDO? Dying? That's the same old story since 2018. Yeah, PA is going to mercy kill this thing eventually. The problem is the scene is bleeding the fuck out.
AoC is now dead. Star Citizen, no matter how much they pump into it, will never reach playable release. WoW has been a shitshow for ages. XIV is BDO with extra emphasis on gooning and awful WoW-like features. GW2 never escaped second fiddle status (surely GW3 will be different!). Runescape is ran by retarded bongs who are dedicated to ruining a good thing. What, play Maplestory? Might as well burn the building down and go swipe in gachaland - it's basically the same shit with anime girls and a guarantee of EoS instead of this endless treadmill nonsense.
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>>2222566
nah they're just depressed jerks or something, something something muh nostalgia, that's the only reason why anyone would have anything non-positive to say about a game even if it isn't explicitly negative. must be the wind
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>>2222566
BDO is different. Unlike Lost Ark and Throne and Liberty, which are shit games, BDO is dying because the developers redirected everything to Crimson Desert and DokeV, while denying that resources were pulled away from this game. I don't know who they think they're fooling. But now that the game is basically done, BDO will bounce back as it should.