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it makes it all worth it
thanks Aiming
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>>1819184
We can't all have this guy as an author. Seriously, how the fuck do you juggle that many projects and still keep up? It's more than ten years at this point.
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I can't believe it took me 18 rolls.
I was starting to get mad but now I'm happy.
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>>1819101
>Danchro died so hopefully they put more effort in this game
They just axed streams with seiyuus for streams with voice modified chibis, beside anniv and anniv .5
They ain't gonna put any effort in this game anon, it's rather the opposite
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>>1819582
i never roll unless i've got enough for the pity timer. learned the hard way with the original blue shadow that I barely use anymore.
I just stick to waifu rolling. Saving up for Miku and demon Alpha, maybe if halloween or christmas has something good i'll roll on that.
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>>1819629
They only do maybe one banner a month with the 50 pity but usually they suck. Is it that hard to ask for one guarantee on normal banners? Like I don't care if I max out. I just want to collect the waifus. I remember danmemo having a good pull system and Overlord and Snowbreak. Like devs are making the game way too crappy for collecting.
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>>1819903
it could be worse, i used to play a game that had banners for characters AND their weapons. so you'd have to do 20 pulls for pity on the character and then another 20 pulls for their weapon otherwise they'd be useless.
it was also a resource hog and that made the game super frustrating to try and play, if your phone / pc wasn't up to snuff you'd be locked out of content for a while until they upped the max level. At least this one there isn't anything I can't do outside the world tree levels, i'm still stuck on floor 16
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Can't believe they double paizuri'd the monster to death.
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What's my best green team?
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>>1823461
depends on what you're using that green team for
bushinfes? cid tank is obviously the best and you already have zeta/delta duo. just use those two, ss+ loli beta, kimono elizabeth and demon beta
arma? demon beta, ny zeta, zeta/delta, and depends on which supports and tanks you have
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>>1824971
no the demon skins but the apoc skins, the ones where they are wearing the white dresses.
and reddit.
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>>1824986
one of them will be meta breaking broken like apoc beta was for a while, but i'm only waifu rolling at this point anyways. and yeah we still have a few demon skins and possibly another dual character. and then miku.
maybe a coomer halloween skin.
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>>1826686
I don't remember seeing her demon form if anything, so only in the story I think
This chapter seems to be hinting at it though
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shouldn't you be wearing a maid apron in this time period
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the new apoc skinned characters don't seem worth it. demon fox probably wont be either.
I will roll on side boob goddess Demon Epsilon and Milku. We also don't have a dual yellow character yet, place your bets who gets it.
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>>1834731
Do you like the original LN / manga / anime? It's good enough to scratch that itch waiting for more content. it has lots of back story and non ln content that is still really funny and enjoyable, to me anyways.
game mechanic wise it's meh but i've struggled through worse gaccha games for less entertainment. it's fun to play for 30 mins a day waiting on new shit.
>>1834904
this is also correct.
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>>1835288
they've also got plenty of fodder to add if they get desperate. Omega and Chai, Iota (please give me bunny girls), bunny outfits for the rest of the girls, coomer halloween skins etc. more double unit characters too.
we've got at least a year.
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>>1837212
Lol no.Remember that the next LN volume was supposed to have Cid go into the elf kingdom and at this rate we will never see this coming.
Apocrypha and Chronicles are basically 7 shadows focus with barely anything about Cid.
All others side stories are just SOL events where nothing really happens. The gacha stories are just a drag now.
>>1837381
The problem with LN authors is that once they became popular they start losing their shit because they have to keep their new audience and are now pressed by their editor to get the readers hyped. Money and fame get involved and the authors/editors now want to milk the fans by dragging the story as much as possible. This is he curse of this kind of books.
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>>1837427
Cid has the same issues Ainz has, he can only reinvent the wheel so many times. Hence why there’s not much opposition to drag things out. If they went at the same speed as before the gacha the author would be crashing out by now given his pace.
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That's a lot of slime
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>>1840667
Got her in 3 rolls again. Might blow some of my load for demon beta shes the only one im missing from the try hard pvp team.
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>>1843797
who, and is it the same as the alt art for demon Eta? I wasn't really impressed with the alt art for Epsilon so skipped it.
So now we've got Anniversary units, Halloween, Demon Alpha (maybe) and probably a dual Yellow Unit left for this year is my guess.
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Had to reach pity to get Sexpsilon, now I have to choose between Miku and anniv
Probably going to be an alpha duo unit, since her seiyuu will be there for the anniv stream
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>>1853962
Yeah, their SS+ was their only chance to comeback, but they are so bad they will just join the bench and never be used again, like many before them
They really don't care about old units most of the time, to the point they don't even try with SS+
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>>1854261
It’s common but there’s plenty of games where certain characters have longevity and still have the game succeed. It’s just to show that such a pattern isn’t always necessary.
But then again this game doesn’t even pretend like it’s a cash cow for milking. Since launch how many new game modes have we even got?
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>>1854291
new game modes? Armageddon and Sancturary were added right? I guess the monthly events don't count.
i haven't really played many new gacha for a while, the only one i was tempted to play recently was the girls frontline two but never downloaded it.
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>>1854304
sanctuary was in launch but it took way longer to clear and only gave you 30 fucking gems a week
arma was basically guaranteed because everything has to have PVP now and what we actually got was the tower and apocalypse which was run exactly once and people probably hating it given how they refuse to do another one, fuckin rip if you missed the sword that you could reroll for nuts speed/crit rate passives
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>>1854261
>I still use blue shadow
So do I, but to be fair, he was one of the best units when he released, and it took a damn long time for him to be powercrept
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>>1854998
rumors are swirling that blue shadow will be the first to get a ss+ gear but I don't have my hopes up.
I'll still use him because my blue team sucks shit.
I actually did finally go over the hard bosses' max HP for the first time for this event which is great, yippee. What image generator are you using for your pictures you've posted? I think I asked before but don't remember
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>>1855472
>I actually did finally go over the hard bosses' max HP for the first time for this event
Same, they probably made him easier for newcomers who will play for Miku
>What image generator are you using for your pictures you've posted?
That's just base Wai 15 with some fiddling around, what's everyone is using, nothing much
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>>1855565
>Same, they probably made him easier for newcomers who will play for Miku
oh yeah that makes sense. I was surprised how many achievements I got the first time I bet the giant chicken, I got into the seven shadows class on the first go.
>Wai 15
thanks i'll look into it, can't get enough of the shadows
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>>1855589
ive got enough gems saved up for whatever the ani unit is that will define the game for the next year... but if i dont get miku off the free rolls i might blow it on her.
she seems like a terrible unit though
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>>1859542
>How is rerolling?
Your first run will take 20 minutes, then it's faster after because you only need to delete your account data, though it's still 3 minutes per reroll, rates are shit so it will take a few hours to get what you want
The best character to reroll for is Epsi&Beta duo, but since you are coming for Miku, I guess it's better to reroll for her instead, she is a good unit for newcomers
You will often find yourself hitting a wall in the story/gaiden until you have enough SS characters to build a team of each 4 colors, and then it will be a walk in the park for everything but PVP and that one whale mode. (I don't care enough to grind these myself)
Events are easy to grind, no transferable pity, they are stinky with rolls like most jp gachas, but they do give free SS units from time to time
Anniv is next month and will have a x3 for every nodes drop, so I would keep every burgers I can and wait for anniv
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>>1869257
We haven't had a human non shadow duo yet, so maybe Sherry / Rose? Or Claire / Rose? I don't think they'd do Alpha / Oliver but I could see them doing Alpha / Beatrice since they are related.
Demon Alpha eventually will be a thing, I think she'll be triple broken yellow.
We also need a yellow Chadow, solo red Chadow.
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>>1871037
Probably demon delta. Not bad by any stretch but next easiest to skip, bit powercrept, green has lots of other options. Gamma is good and gets boost from being non-shit yellow unit
Gamma is pretty good and harder to skip because yellow is still the shit color and has a lot fewer options
Most skippable has to be a green demon, probably demon delta, because green is stacked
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>>1871095
really demon delta? I've got demon delta and demon zeta on my green pvp fury team and I switch back and forth between them, I'd rather use demon zeta for waifu reasons but when I switched to her instead of delta I lost 20 something ranks. I was in top 3 for a while with bunny alpha, zeta/delta combo (zeta up first), new years Zeta, demon delta and casino yukime.
both demon delta and demon zeta are only accension 1, so maybe zeta gets way better ascending her one or two more?
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>makes a new popularity poll
>removes shadow because they know everyone will vote for him
what a stupid idea, people are just going to vote for Cid instead.
https://www.shadow-garden-mog.jp/3rd-anniversary/kagemasu-vote/
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>>1871712
My GOAT
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>could've been highschool delta
fml
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i guess this is the new dual unit?
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>>1872968
>it's true
My HERO is so FUARKING POPULAR
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>>1872969
I don't doubt Alpha will win this, iirc she was always second in poll
>>1871261
Tower really is just about doing big dmg in each color, nothing else
I can only recommend to roll for recent characters of the color you need, and lb them
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>new dual unit just dropped, yellow
So this isn't the super broken anniversary unit and might be bait? my yellow team is balls so I might roll anyways but Should we also expect another new broken unit at the actual anniversary at the end of the month?
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>>1874822
>23rd roll
Sheeeeeeeeeeeit welp their goes my load. Only got another 3 cores too from dupes. Gosh i hope there isn't any broken coomer shit in the next 6 months if I dont get stupid lucky for whatever comes for ani im not rolling until swimsuit season next August.
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how high should I go? It looks like all the way at A5 is where the hidden/ultimate technique is awakened
I was saving this for the next cool or sexy Aurora, though...
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LET'S FUCKING GO
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>>1874869
Second one at 140 too.
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>>1874862
I dont see a good aurora dropping soon since she isnt really in the story much at this point, movie coming out might change that.
Although they have done all seven shadows in swimsuits and Aurora got a new years outfit so maybe next August she gets a swimsuit outfit?
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>>1874871
I am >>1874869
I bought the weapon then went all they way to 200 and didn't get another copy from rolls, but I did get 6 more crystals from converting a5+
>>1874874
I went to 230 to buy A1 and then used 40 regular crystals to get to a5
at least I have enough gems to likely be back at 230 possible rolls in the future when a new non-demon Aurora shows up. I am not a fan of the demon outfits so I am glad she isn't a character in the Gaiden main party... I was never into leather dominatrix style outfits
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Do you guys see the vision
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Full power, nothing less for my king
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anyone got a better team? this is the best i can do
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>>1879902
No idea, I’m not competitive at all this blatant cash grab game doesn’t deserve my time and effort beyond the minimum. Just a quick glance tells me the dkd list probably won’t work properly so long as stuff like awakening/ranks is skewed and rng will mess it up real quick, I’ve definitely lost matches that list claims to be a counter and was only missing like 1-2 ranks max.
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>>1880890
there really isn't much in terms of resources other than a discord im not going to join and the japanese website.
I was just looking at my yellow units and according to that site I should switch yellow rose tank for labcoat Eta.
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>stuck on world tree floor 19 for months
>finally beat it with the new yellow duo unit
>skate my way all the way to floor 24 without losing once
well now i'm stuck again but my god do the world tree floors suck so much shit
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>>1885205
I've been fucking hardstuck here for almost a year
it's impossible, it just takes almost no damage
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>>1885484
id bet you a dollar if you used the new shadow/alpha unit you'd beat it. it's pretty obvious that the only way to progress through world tree is using combinations of particular units that happen to be the newest releases.
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How do you get guild points? This event I tried doing hard for once, got boss down to like 2% hp and wanted to finish it next fight but the hp resets now. Then I go do easy mode but my guild points still gives a big fat 0. What gives?
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>>1886834
Do you actually mean your guild points or is it hunt points you're not getting either? If you're not getting hunt points, your game is definitely bugged and you should try repair your game data. If you're getting hunt points and not guild points that could also be a bug or you're not actually in a guild.
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>>1887997
Ani is over
New levels and story with a movie
Iota gets some screen time
Tartarus is another sanctuary style once a week battle but also like world tree and fucking bullshit, I hope you've got two full teams of each color maxed out to pass the floors. Your special meters are saved battle to battle but not your combo meter so dont be shy and dump that.
DO NOT spend the new currency you get willy nilly, I had trouble doing damage on the 4th floor's second team and if I spent my currency better I might have done better. I haven't bothered trying floor 5 but it looks like steaming bullshit hardmode.
Don't worry, you can exchange your crystal cores for the new currency to make progress on the new magic circuit table, jesus christ you greedy fucks.
6/10 update
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floor 5 kicked my ass and I give up
whichever team my Shadora isn't on is not able to deal the dmg to kill enemies
particularly demon delta... she can solo tank my non-Shadora team (which is still a relatively strong team)
all that said, I am not one of the people high up in the boss floors either, so maybe I am just kind of bad at this game
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I'm f2p and beat floor 5 just fine, first round was rough because Rose somehow killed my tank but I lasted until 30 seconds passed, Eta triggered her SS+ passive and Kung Fu Epsi oneshot the team
second one idk shadow and aurora killed everything but the tank frame 1
Liz probably goes hard here, Magic Blockage and all
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>>1888410
Thanks, it was easy when you used elf team first and human team next. For me it was summer beta into sf beta aoe so the enemy never got to act at all dying in 5 sec round 1. Round 2 biggest thing isn’t even shadow Aurora it’s demonic Claire using hidden tech first second so demonic Epsilon can’t cuck you with charm.
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>>1885484
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Holy fuck, this shit is ultra AIDS
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ur mum lol
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>>1890730
Meta bros what is the meta blue dps? Because every tier list I see, Demonic Ass Alexia is pretty trash tier yet for me even with equal rank and shit she always tops dps over my Bepsilon / Demon Yukime. Am I doing something wrong? I cleared this shit and my main dps for both reds are Demonic Alexia and Swimsuit Alexia that said the latter took awhile until her hidden tech came up to pop 3 of them at once.
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>>1891903
>neither of their SS+ apply weakness
This fucking SUCKS
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>>1894611
I just used these
bepis can just oneshot the second fight
Nu also had no SS+ gear but I still needed her full party cleanse
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>>1871712
My fucking sides
Kadokawa is so desperate to sell the girls of this franchise, but at its core the fans just want to see more Shadow.
Reminds me of how poorly that swimsuit filler from the anime went over because Cid wasn't in it.
Really wish they would just let Aizawa cook and finish V7 already, the manga has practically caught up and the movie has had no news in 2 years.
This entire franchise is on life support outside of the gacha despite it being a top earner for Kadokawa, what the fuck are they even doing?
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Sad state of affairs for blue, I didn't even sweat
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>>1895801
I really don't understand how this mode calculate damages. This is so weird my casual adult Zeta just wrecked the entire team with her ultimate on stage 5 even though her gear rank is only 21 meanwhile my halloween Delta who is gear rank 26 couldn't even scratch them with her ult.
>>1895025
They are just milking the gacha now. Why would the author write another book when they are making much more money from the game ? Aizawa might go back writing but only if people stop spending money on the gacha which is not anytime soon so enjoy your another year of filler.
I don't really blame them for wanting to make money but I personally started to became a bit bored of the fillers. At least I would like them to add a major story part in the game.
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>>1896704
>things that don't get new content don't make as much money as things that do
Wow, except for when they do.
>Quite surprised how the anime made that much honestly
I think /a/ and the manga subreddit were the only places that didn't like it, and it's the type to cultivate a dedicated cult following on top of that.
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>>1896726
Wrong pic. The boost it got this year was probably thanks to Isekai Quartet.
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>>1898036
all of them 70k. For some reason I thought we'd get one more day so we could get at least one SF character but after looking around they wanted you to drop 100 bucks for 10k more tokens to do that. lol, lmao even.
I did read they will roll over to next year so if EOS doesn't strike maybe they'll release an SF Iota and my bunny girl dreams will really come true.
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>>1898070
im not that surprised, this game is peak greed. sure there are a bunch of free things you can get but I spent way too much fucking money getting the original blue shadow that isn't even used anymore. I've been f2p ever since and only waifu rolled.
as such i've got 40k saved up so far, waiting out for next double broken demon unit (alpha or shadow maybe) and summer for tits and ass. even then they've gone through the roster for summer suits. Maybe they'll put Delta and Eta in bunny suits for April. Eta's bunny suit from the show was 10/10
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>>1897687
Me too, it’s bullshit no warning whatsoever. Why the fuck does it not even have some leeway for purchasing? When events finish their shops remain, but I never even had enough coins for one of them yet I logged in almost everyday maybe missed once cause of internet going out.
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>>1898805
no, they've always given you 10k short of getting the best rewards for black friday. that way you'd spend 100 american dollars buying the last 10k to get the SF character.
The only time this didn't happen was last year when our based man on the inside internkun accidently set the amount everyone got to 100k instead of 10k for two days... and despite my pessimism they didn't reverse it and just let it slide.
optimistically they roll over like they did this year and you've got more than enough coins for a character; and they'll include SF characters and demon characters too. Iota and a few of the other non shadow girls are in the opening splash page now so we might even get a new wave of waifu bait coming too.
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>>1901112
It took me a lot of retrys but this was my final set up for floor 5. I was surprised i actually cleared it with the limited amount of good green units i had, if i did not have SF Elizabeth i don't think i could have gotten past floor 4.
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>>1901193
Bruh I’m missing both Liz, Demon Delta, Aurora, and my Yuki isn’t built. This looks luxurious as hell I’m still using Smol beta and base Alexia. I give up then, I don’t see how Yuki can turn the tides for me when I can’t kill without delta/zeta. Hell I even had to manual that shit to even kill, ridiculous.
>>1901196
None I just focus on attacker cause I do shit damage as is.
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https://eminencecodex.com/character/1005061/#rating
This bitch is ranked D, yet even with my Victoria or decked out base Cid Kagenou both with leech life I still lose in dkd. How the fuck can you rank someone D when two of the strongest free characters would lose?
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>>1901614
Part of it is that those DKD rankings are based on how many points they give you if you are attacking with them. She might be hard to kill but if she doesn't kill quickly she'll be low ranked. (also she's actually F in DKD)
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>>1901838
Kinda yeah. Definitely not really put together for f2p struggling to get through DKD. Can't really remember coming up against blue tank delta in DKD but I'd guess best f2p friendly option is possibly yellow/blue healers/tanks on that list. Or resetting with Victoria until she actually hits
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>>1905501
that doesn't bother me very much, something something the student becomes the master and then shadow outdoes them right after sending them into shock and awe. But the same models is big lame.
>>1905732
i can't imagine they will get more lewd, didn't brown dust just get banned from steam?
either way I get to save my gems for bunny eta from the show and that's about it.
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>>1905742
Bd2 getting denied on steam has more to do with other stuff like having age profiles on their girls. Trust me, this game can get away with a lot more, others have,
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>>1906296
>like having age profiles on their girls
isn't this also true with shadow garden? if you click on alpha's profile it says she is 15, beta is 15 and epsi is 17 etc.
or did bd2 have million year old loli vampires going on? not that it matters, i'm here for Cid either way.
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>>1904119
Holy cutting corners
I know they are out of ideas, but they could still use the fucktons of cliches outfits that still exist in their culture, yet they choose nothing at all
Do they have nothing ready after demon alpha?
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>>1906654
It's definitely true on plenty of other games including this one re ages and age profiles. Brown Dust 2 is fanservice heavy in ways this one isn't though. For a while though Steam (despite having porn games) has been retarded, inconsistent and punitive when it feels like it on sex related shit
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>>1906654
Just compare the difference.
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>>1907518
It’s apples and oranges, both are good in their own way, but bd2 is undoubtedly more lewd in exposure. But for footfags there’s not much that can compete with gfl2, they got some real autistic footfag 3d modellers so if that’s your thing I do recommend that one. That’s not to say bd2 doesn’t have feet focus but it’s rarely the Center spotlight unlike gfl2.
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>>1907605
>they got some real autistic footfag 3d modellers
The feet are indeed well-modeled, but don't all characters use the same feet? A real autistic footfag would probably expect diversity in shape and texture and dynamic normal maps for the wrinkles.
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>>1909789
I just gave up when I get walled. This kusoge doesn’t deserve spending any brain cells on nor time. I’m mainly here just for the story and some pulls, no big deal. It’d be more threatening if they actually dressed up the waifus more but outside of swimsuits/bunnies/demons it’s mostly boring with few exceptions and the interactions aren’t even that special.
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Tartarus is meant for the long run. You are supposed to farm gems to upgrade your magic circuit which will increase damages dealt in it.
Only whales or first time players who got lucky rolls can safely beat this mode I think.
Enemy teams are probably buffed with the full magic circuit or others hiddden stuff but it's very hard to tell. One thing for sure is that everyone is buffed as hell with how tanky units are. From what I could grasp too they also have some huge shield buff going on so characters that can remove shields are great here like Loli blue Beta with her SS+ gear.
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Yeah, this gacha is a pain to keep up with the meta as a FTP. If you stop doing your daily you are going to struggle. Gear farming is such a pain with more and more characters added while we are getting the same stamina points.
You now have to choose wich units to keep leveling which is annoying. The 2x items drop is not enough now to keep everyone leveled up.
Man, I wish I never knew about gacha games.
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Merry christmas /emigar/!
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>only 2 hard event quests instead of 4
>Event mission locked until Japans New Year
>Cid's last line in event story is him considering wearing the hakama for New Years
Are they actually doing it. Are we finally getting a new Cid unit. An event Cid unit.
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This shit's my worst nightmare, why would this news be delivered to me
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https://x.com/SugoiBingus/status/2011746010557808681
Anime Sequel Film "The Eminence in Shadow: Lost Echoes" (Kage no Jitsuryokusha ni Naritakute!: Zankyou-hen) will share NEW INFO on Green Stage / March 29 at AnimeJapan 2026.
The action comedy sequel, first announced in December 2023, is currently in production at Studio Nexus
oh ye of little faith
have a zeta .
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>NEW INFO
>in 2 months
So this basically confirms the movie has been in production this whole time and not sitting in Kadokawa's vault until a more opportune marketing window. It better have like Macross Plus or Bloodlust-tier animation for the wait.
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Except he doesn't need to come up with anything new for it. The past 6 volumes still have loads of untapped setup he could use. Does he just want to build up more, or was all that for nothing? He needs a sounding board while in the meantime someone at Kadokawa needs to light a fire under his ass.
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ya makes no sense vol 6 ends with alpha wanting to go to the elven lands to help with a slave rebellion and kill high ranking cult members + alexia likly going to orinana to join up with shadow garden {my thinking]+ jack da rapper & kanada doing their thing, + millia and akane being new members of sg + eta going to see sharry + aurora gaining her malice back + claire waking up
not to mention
Elisabeth
beatrix
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you got a link for what the author said?
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https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/322410001721/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUOwbcdZozQ
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i think we are going to milk the fuck out of the milkers. All the side characters will get their demon transformations and Alpha will be the last one and she'll reset the whole thing by telling Cid to stop mobbing it up as the demon king. memory wipe, no one remembers but Cid that he is the one that started the whole thing in the past, hilarity ensues.
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>she gets killed off minutes after this realization breaks her
why is everyone so mean to her
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