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Dark fantasy, vampire-themed strategy RPG focused on smart positioning, vassal synergy, and skill timing.
>Official launch trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOKiaQfMky4
>Silver and Blood OP Special Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwSVfMPU1no
The Half-Year Anniversary version Canticle of the Turning Age is upon us!
>Half-Anniversary Teaser | Salvation And Sorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx_xnJh5wvM
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New Vassals
>Alexi, White Midnight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W10Pi2s1XPA
>Livian, Fortune's Fantasy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1hLeAlqvr4
>Alene, Wasteland Wanderer
[trailer to be released]
Current Events
>The infinite Mind - until 12/18
Alexi and Livian's event
>When the Bell Tolls Not - 12/11 ~ 01/08
Alene's event
>Eons of War - until 12/25
Board building event
Blood is the fountain of life, and the carrier of memories
Long before the dawn of the Continental Era, thirteen alchemists partook the blood of Abel, the First Martyr. Through this sacrament, they unlocked the power of memory-bound immortality. Thus, the first Bloodborn were born: Immortal beings who defied the natural cycle of life and death, the harbingers of calamity upon the mortal world
Over a thousand years later the Black Blood disease swept across the continent like an unrelenting tide. Mortals, infected by the deadly plague, turned into beasts, and civilizations crumbled as their people lost their humanity. Amid chaos, a boy named Noah as a heretic and sentenced to burn at the stake for his affliction. Yet, as the flames closed in, a Bloodborn girl intervenes, revealing that he may hold the key to a forgotten prophecy: the Bloodborn’s return to the moon.
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Part I
Half-Anniversary Ball Event
>1. Half-Anniversary Commemoration Mail [The Sixth Full Moon] - 12/25
Log in to receive the Half-Anniversary Commemoration mail, accompanied by: Soothing Embrace x10, Moon Tear x600, Nameless Pact x10, Rich Knowledge x3, Afternoon of Leisure x3, Blackened Smelting Ore x100, and Clear Crystal Ball of the Inspired x100.
>2. Half-Anniversary Commemoration Event [Midnight Bouquet] - 12/15 ~ 01/22
During the event, participate in various activities to collect [Midnight Bouquet] items. Combine collected items to redeem rich rewards on the [Midnight Bouquet] event page.
- Redeemable Rewards
Vestige of Love x10, Soothing Embrace x10, Large Antiquated Reliquary x1, Soulstrike Bellows (Ring) x6, Soulstrike Bellows (Headgear) x6, Soulstrike x6, new event avatars/avatar frames, and more.
>3. Ball Sign-In [Advent's Dawn] - 01/01 ~ 01/10
Sign in daily during the event to obtain rewards. Sign in for 7 days to claim all rewards: Soothing Embrace x10, Large Antiquated Reliquary x1, Moon Tear x300
>4. Bonus Embrace Event [Advent of the Chosen] - 12/25 - 01/07
Get up to 13 Free [Herald x10]!
※ During the event, the [Free Daily Herald x10]. Unused attempts do not roll over to the next day, so please use them on the day they are granted.
During the event, you can select one standard Ancestral Vassal as the featured Vassal to increase their drop rate. Once selected, log in daily to perform a [Free Herald x10] in this event 1 time.
※ Standard Ancestral Vassals include: Timeless Aiona, Limine, Transcendent Hati, Incendiary Agares, Transcendent Ami, Seth, Transcendent Noah.
※ The base SSR drop rate for this Bonus Embrace Event [Advent of the Chosen] is 4%, with the selected Vassal accounting for 25% of the SSR drops.
※ In this Embrace Event, if you do not obtain the selected Vassal within 119 consecutive Heralds, the next Herald is guaranteed to be the selected Vassal.
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>5. Returning: Limited Embrace Event [Promise in the Wind] - 01/09 ~ 01/22
During the event, SSR Vassal Fleeting Bella returns for a limited time with a significantly increased drop rate!
After the Limited Embrace ends, SSR Vassal Fleeting Bella will become temporarily unavailable.
※ SSR Vassals have a 4% base drop rate in the limited Embrace [Promise in the Wind], with Fleeting Bella accounting for 50%.
>6. Half-Anniversary Event [Daily Free Herald x10] - 01/09 ~ 01/12
This event runs alongside the Limited Embrace Event [Promise in the Wind], and the [Daily Free Herald x10] attempts can only be used in the Limited Embrace Event [Promise in the Wind].
※ During the event, Lords can perform one free [Herald x10] daily in the Limited Embrace Event [Promise in the Wind], up to a maximum of 3 free [Herald x10].
※ During the event, the daily free [Herald x10]. Unused attempts do not roll over to the next day, so please use these attempts in time.
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Part II
>1. New Story Event Stage [Canticle of the Turning Age] - 12/25 ~ 01/22
As the Silver Blood burns its last light, she stands trapped in the mire of the Holy War. Fanatics surge like an unyielding tide, eager to offer her to the god of the Black Blood. Behind her, the shadow of Apocalypse 'War' lurks, waiting to make her the spark to destroy the Church...
At last, the lone warrior lowers her gaze and takes the hands placed in her trust. Together, with solemn oaths and a dream of home, they march into the Long Night.
>3. Limited Sign-In [Last Echoes] - 12/25 ~ 01/22
During the event period, sign in for 14 days to claim rewards including [Vestige of Love x10], [Moon Tear x300], limited Avatar Frame, and more.
>5. Limited Event [Ritual Hymn]—pick your SSR Vassal (designated selection) - 01/01 ~ 01/22
Complete missions to get a Vampiric Coffin that you can use to choose a SSR of your choice from the list
>7. New Event [Bathory's Virtue] - 12/31 ~ 01/22
Just a cute chibi event
A board game named Bathory's Virtue has been brought to the tavern in Mouret by a traveling merchant—
A new standalone mode! During the event, assemble your team and journey across the continent. By accumulating time and defeating monsters, you will gather more Spirits to enhance your power, allowing you to challenge more stages and claim generous rewards.
10. New Soul Heirloom Raid [Void of Shadow] - unlocks after the update on 12/23
New Soul Heirloom Raid [Void of Shadow] added. Challenge stages within the raid to get rewards such as [Soul Heirloom] upgrade materials and [Soul Heirloom] breakthrough materials.
* [Void of Shadow] contains 4 raids: [Abyss of Sins], [Moonlit Revelation], [Silver Doctrines], and [Cradle of Blood]. 2 raids are available daily, and all raids are available on Sundays. Each available raid can be challenged 3 times daily.
* After clearing a stage in [Void of Shadow] once, you can use the item [Nameless Pact] to Quick Clear the corresponding stage.
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Ok now this is huge
>9. New System Soul Heirloom - available after the update on 12/23
After the update on 12/23/2025, the Spirit Siphon system will be upgraded to the Soul Heirloom system, adding [Resonantia] and the [Heirloom Vault] feature.
(1) Resonantia: Once a Vassal breaks through to a specific Spirit Siphon Tier, [Resonantia] can be unlocked in the Soul Heirloom.
Unlocking each [Resonantia] grants the Vassal a special skill effect or attribute boost.
※ [Resonantia] is only available for SSR Vassals.
※ After the system update, Spirit Siphon Enhanced Tiers 1-7 will be renamed to Spirit Siphon Tiers 4-10.
(2) Heirloom Vault: Unlocks upon obtaining the Vassal. Consume Soul Heirloom upgrade/breakthrough materials of the Vassal's faction to upgrade/breakthrough the Heirloom Vault. Heirloom Vault upgrade/breakthrough increases base attributes for the Vassal.
After the Heirloom Vault breakthrough, the Heirloom Vault level cap will increase. Breaking through [Heirloom Vault] to a certain level will further enhance the [Resonantia] of Soul Heirloom.
※ Only [Heirloom Vault] for SSR Vassals can be upgraded.
- Vassals Featuring [Resonantia] in this Update
After the update on 12/23 Vassals [Albrecht], [Thibault], and [Ressa] will feature [Resonantia].
After 12/25 Vassal [Ethereal Joan] will feature [Resonantia].
* Vassals featuring [Resonantia] will be continuously updated in future patches.
* [Resonantia] for more Vassals will be implemented in future patches.
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Now for the banners
Part III
>1. Ancestral Embrace Event [Banner of the Unbroken Will] - 12/25 ~ 01/22
During the event, the SSR Ancestral Vassal Ethereal Joan will have a significantly increased drop rate!
※ SSR Vassals have a 4% base drop rate in the Ancestral Embrace [Banner of the Unbroken Will], with Ethereal Joan accounting for 25% of the SSR drops.
※ In this [Banner of the Unbroken Will] event, if no SSR Vassal is obtained within 59 consecutive Heralds, the next Herald will guarantee an SSR.
※ In this event, if Ethereal Joan is not obtained within 119 consecutive Heralds, the next Herald will guarantee Ethereal Joan.
※ The Ancestral Embrace event features the Ancestral Pact:
(1) Every 10/50/100 Heralds, you can obtain the [Solaris Omen], which allows you to perform a [Herald x10] in the current [Banner of the Unbroken Will] event. [Solaris Omen] is only valid for the current event and cannot be used in other events or event reruns.
(2) Accumulate 30 Heralds in this event to get the [Battle Trophy], which grants Vassal enhancement materials upon use.
(3) Accumulate 70 Heralds in this event to get the [Avatar: Ethereal Halo].
※ This Embrace event belongs to the Ancestral Embrace Event and shares pity mechanics with other events of the same type. However, it does not share the same mechanics with other types, such as the Limited Embrace Events. Pity counter will not reset after this Ancestral Embrace Event ends and will be carried over to future Ancestral Embrace Events.
※ In future versions, SSR Vassal Ethereal Joan will be available in Standard Embrace and Perfect Ancestral Shard.
>6. New Vassal in [Satin Boudoir]
Vassal [Ethereal Joan] will join the [Satin Boudoir]
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This one uses the white non-limited scrolls
>2. Synergistic Embrace Event [Lunar Vigil] - 12/25 ~ 01/22
During the event, the drop rate for SSR Vassals Acappella, Albrecht, and Theophane is greatly increased!
※The SSR base drop rate for the Synergistic Embrace Event [Lunar Vigil] is 4%, with Acappella, Albrecht, and Theophane accounting for 87.5% of all SSR drops.
※This Synergistic Embrace Event has an exclusive Synergy Bonus:
(1) Each Herald attempt in this event returns 1 Synergy Talisman. Lords can redeem [Synergy Talisman x200] for the current Synergy Reward: Vampiric Coffin.
※ Vampiric Coffin: Open to select and obtain one SSR Vassal. Available Vassals include standard non-Ancestral Vassals added to the Standard Embrace Event [Blue Dawn] before 12/25.
(2) Unused Synergy Talismans will not expire and will be carried over to future Synergistic Embrace events.
※ Each Herald attempt returns 1 Fragrant Residue, which can be redeemed for items in the [Shop] - [Echo Shop].
※This is a Synergistic Embrace event that shares pity mechanics with other events of the same type. The pity counter will not reset when the event ends and will carry over to future Synergistic Embrace events.
ALSO
>New Standard Vassals
SSR Vassals Letitia and Seraphina will be available through the following methods:
- After the update on 12/23, SSR Vassals Letitia and Seraphina will be added to the Standard Embrace Blue Dawn, Perennial Embrace Celestial Concerto, and Rare/Advanced/Perfect Shards. The Spirits of these SSR Vassals will be added to the Echo Shop.
- After 12/25, SSR Vassals Letitia and Seraphina will be added permanently to Limited Embrace and Ancestral Embrace events.
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And for the last infodump on the new update so we can start the thread
>11. [Tomb of the Fallen - Haunted Sepulcher] Update
After the update on 12/23, the total floors in the [Tomb of the Fallen - Haunted Sepulcher] Raid will be expanded to 7.
>8. New Tournament [Eclipsed Glory] - 12/25~ 01/15
Step into the arena, let your roar be heard, and bask in the cheers! Rally your courage and wisdom as you ascend the steps to eternal glory~
The new tournament [Eclipsed Glory] is coming! Face your rivals and claim the title of ultimate champion!
※ All teams will be set to LV. 200.
(1) Blood's Call
During Blood's Call, all eligible Lords will be divided into 128 groups. Lords can challenge other contestants in their group; successful challenges improve personal rank.
(2) Twilight Trial
Twilight Trial consists of 6 rounds. 512 contestants will compete in pairs for an elimination tournament.
Winners of each round advance to the next, until 8 contestants remain to enter the Nightfall Finale.
(3) Nightfall Finale
Nightfall Finale consists of 3 rounds. The 8 contestants must set 3 defense lineups. Through one-on-one matches, the ultimate champion will be crowned.
(4) Match Prediction & Support
Once Twilight Trial begins, Lords can sign in daily to obtain Soli. Before the settlement of each round in Twilight Trial and Nightfall Finale, all Lords can use Soli to predict the winner. Correct predictions yield more Soli.
Successfully participating in predictions grants support item [Rose of Honor]. Lords can send [Rose of Honor] to contestants they predicted or to their rivals, or to popular contestants on the [Roses Ranking].
- Main Rewards
Earn generous [Moon Tear] and Soli based on their rank;
Lords who enter the Twilight Trial will obtain [Soulstrike] and a limited avatar frame based on their final rank;
Lords who advance to the Nightfall Finale will obtain [Soulstrike Bellows (Ring)] and [Soulstrike Bellows (Headgear)] based on their final rank.
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Empousa? Found dead in a ditch
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>>1907123
Last one was near 800 posts already
Plus the half anniversary is near so it's best to have a fresh thread to talk about that and the huge changes some characters will have with Soul Heirloom
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>>1907085
>after her banner ends Vassal Fleeting Bella will become temporarily unavailable
I don't get why they do this with the summer characters
Even TAiona went to the standard pool yet they continue to be limited
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>>1907298
I told you anon: attempt to force spending. Lorelai isn't gamebreaking amazing but some people have collectors value. And since the devs have made anti-T.aiona content, its not completely out of bounds to be scummy and make Lorelai content to force artificial demand.
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>>1907642
I like the concept behind her
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>play game
>omfg love the aesthetics, characters and castlevania vibes
>continue story
>"MORTY WE NEED TO DO THE TIMEWARP BECAUSE THIS PUPPET IS ANNOYING! BTW I'M GONNA FUCK ANOTHER RANDOM WEIRD CHICK I'VE JUST MET."
>"EMPOUSA WHO?!"
also pull-rates are complete shit.
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>>1908089
see
>>1908212
I'm so done with multiverse/timeline bullshit.
It's lazy writing for authors who are too chickenshit/greedy to commit to their decisions. After all their "readers" are like children who hate being confronted with the fact that actions can have irredeemable consequences.
Under its beautiful aesthetics S&B is still the same slop as any other gacha.
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>>1908234
Of course it is. What were you expecting anyway? And I mean the Onion knight appears, does nothing and disappears from the story. The cat vampire is on the ship yet she doesn't exist after her introduction.
There are gacha with decent stories but snb isn't one of them.
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Survey time
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>>1909262
I don't quite follow your question, anon
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>>1909281
Yeah there are some
As long as there's dedicated anons keeping the flame alive you could continue making threads that died before bump limit to keep a general going
You can go to /vg/ and check the bottom of the page to see such generals
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Somehow these sluts are crawling their way up to my most powerful units. At least the investment is working out, I can clear floor 5 of their shill boss now. Floor 6 is also probably within reach if I can down the rats in one go with Alexi but I fucked up and used my daily chances already.
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>>1909582
Jelly of that Alexi
I didn't get a single dupe of her so clearing anything past floor 4 will be a nightmare
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>>1909583
You also need FBella because she simply doesn't have the raw stats to meet the burst check without her. Alene helps a lot as well with more MPen and very smooth Alexi rotations due to HUEG healing every 3 attacks.
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PogChamps is a popular series of online amateur chess tournaments hosted by Chess.com featuring internet personalities, primarily Twitch streamers and content creators, learning and competing in chess, transforming it into mainstream entertainment and drawing huge new audiences to the game with its fun, accessible format.
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>>1910390
I imagine not every whale wants to be that competitive and be at the top ranks they just want to show their powered characters
desu you need to use a proper strategy each battle to reach that far instead of just powering through
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Holy shit the difference between my Clan and the first ranked one (Sin) is over 5x
And the difference between the first and third place is higher than all of my Clan's points lol
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>>1911292
well you're in luck anon she's about to have a special banner just for her
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>>1911355
Before everything went to shit in her ?previous? life
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>>1911369
SR Aiona (Bloodborn) - The current Aiona who joins Noah's Adventure
Starry-Eyed Aiona (Kingdom) - She's from 20 years in the past before meeting Noah and she was somewhat still learning her skills but nonetheless in her prime
Timeless Aiona (Ancestor) - possibly a different timeline Aiona from the main story
Her event told us her perspective on how she originally obtained her powers from the Eye. She saw the downfall of her family and decided to rewind time over and over again until she was trapped in a timeless wasteland, after all that happened, she absorbed some of the Aionas trapped there and enhanced her abilities
Her event if you want to see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrXBCCsaywc
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>>1911954
https://xcancel.com/SAB_EN_Official/status/2003392330586554794/photo/1
The update is already up so you can just open Albrecht, Thibault, or Ressa's resonantia and see for yourself.
>>1911949
I haven't looked into how strong the dupe skills are for the 3 characters above yet but Ethereal Joan, with her lower Ancestral rates, will be launching with them too. This system is inherently P2W and even if it starts out with some minor improvements it inevitably leads to units that are only viable with X amount of dupes.
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So Ressa's Spirit Siphon
Let's see if my dear is finally usable
>SS1 Dream's Demise
Ultimate multiplier increased to 900%
>SS3 Blood Memory
Increase HP by 25%
All Dmg reduction by 25%
Crit resist by 25%
>SS5 Second Strike
Ultimate inflicts Crit Dmg Take Up (-40%) for 10 secs
>SS7 Crushing Embrace
If Ultimate only hits 1, +50% damage
>SS9 Severance
Increase HP by 45%
Atk by 6%
MDef by 6%
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>>1911977
The Ult damage and duration increase seems rather nice
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Albretch gets a real upgrade to his skill instead of raw numbers
Misty Gaze makes so his mist is at max range at the start of battle and Prima Materia gives allies inside the mist 30% dmg reduction
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>>1912130
My problem is they're making it look like the ancestor Joan is such a departure from the regular Joan. She kind of is but we didn't spend enough time seeing regular Joan that new Joan isn't going to make an impact. If she was a recurring enemy even just for Agares instead of Noah fine but she appeared for like one fight against Agares. Maybe I just haven't progressed enough through chapters 20+
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>>1912184
>something bad happens
>EOS IN SIGHT IT'S OVER
>something good happens
>well it's because the game is dying that they're giving me all this shit
>something literally anything happens like them changing the UI a bit
>EOS FUCKING NOW AAAAAAAAA
Don't you retards ever get tired of reading in tea leaves and living with permanent dread that your games will end each day?
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>>1912193
That's usual talk on most generals don't get bothered by it
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>>1912193
stop being blind about it and go back where they b& people for calling out the devs on the clear bullshit being done
the quality of this game went to shit with t.aiona and the answer then was to buff all ancestors to her level + buff 75% of the roster to be more than dildos on a the bench
the lack of voicelines, shitty still frame events, zero game direction, p2w trash boss events whose own fucking gimmick teams *barely* are able to complete, greed banners, and forcing more p2w stat stacks isnt anything but eos
this last clan hunt was the wake up call - 7 f2p guilds made ridiculously high rank with chucklefuck low participation #s
ancestral joan should be t.aiona levels of good but instead she needs her full team to be a super julius? naw they deserve the criticism and negativity. not even fucking Square Enix is this bad with balance and they were all about squeezing their gachas.
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>>1912213
keep us from talking about things we like
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>>1912373
I'm stuck at the last node
Almost forgot to claim the scrolls too
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I wish TAiona was nerfed at the same time I much rather prefer having only 1 TAiona over multiple broken characters
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>>1912621
That's nice to hear
Really nice
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>>1912621
There's a half body version of young pavana from chapter 20
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Banners are up
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Cutest tsundere sidegirl lol
>>1912989
>as a newfag who rerolled for taiona should i be trying to get new ancestors or should i go for taiona copies
More TAiona copies unless you're needing a secondary ancestor to get past the early bp wall in their tower
>>1912976
>Got TAmi from the synergy banner. Is she good?
I want her to step on me
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>>1913032
Yea that's why I'm complaining, they tend to mess the size of the pettanko girls when going to 3d. Lorewise she's the youngest and became an apostle at a very young age, she is not just bratty in attitude but also size
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Sure, sure, it's not because you were too busy enjoying the double succubus booty
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Welp, Void of Shadow added 6 new dailies that require Nameless Pacts to quick sweep, bringing the daily total from 4 to 10, while still only giving 3 free daily Nameless Pacts. Three months ago every quick sweep in this game was completely free.
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>>1913089
She's an Ancestral so the odds of pulling her are smaller than of other vassals
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>piercing damage
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>>1913114
Here's her boudoir b4 you make any drastic decision
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I feel like she's not really worth going all the way considering her banner rates (it's worse than normal banners) so 1 copy is all you need just so you can unlock the Synergy
If you're going for it I feel like 1 dupe is enough for now. You can get the other dupes from events like >>1913067
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Guess will see ancestor Ottavia, if game doesn't die
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So notLamia is canonically dead
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>>1913293
She is on the rateup anon
The 10 free pulls every day banner?
>>1913285
You could reroll for EJoan and then use the regular scrolls to get her synergy team
You'll be able to get TAiona from the new banner that gives 10 pulls every day until you get her
After that you could aim for new synergy vassals like
>Letitia
But that's a mid term goal so no need to worry about it right now
Feel free to ask here anything you want
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>>1913347
Just finished reading until 1-5, saw that TAiona was on the banner that I have the most rolls for compare to the rate up one
Will the devs ever add interactive touch, plain png galleries needs to be a thing of the past
Best value in the shop? The acapella skin does look nice but with no l2d interaction I might just pass on it
I really like the lobby and how the characters where doing the tutorial with it, is there any more lobbies like that in the future or just one.
Any /vg/ guilds?
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>>1913357
The monthly pacts for the moon tears/chests and anything over 1000% "value" can be considered good
I forgot the name but there's 2 you can buy that gives moon tears after completing each chapter of the story and from the top of my head those have the best value long term
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Regarding guilds there's a NA guild but not every anon is in there so it's up to you if you want to join it or another
I don't have the name right now maybe some other anon can drop it for you
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>interactive touch
Not sure what you mean by that but they introduced the boudoir after you get 3 dupes of some characters that you can touch your vassals and such
Not everyone has that right now since it started like last month or the month before
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Last one anon thanks for the help
Saw that the game had a lot in common with how nikke works, I dropped nikke a couple months ago because of the awful daily chores and the core dust mechanic, does S&B have something like an arena that gives the bulk of your f2p gems, can I just take my time and enjoy while also have like a normal game the currency needed to pull later on
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>>1913380
The gem income is pretty nice plus there's the free scrolls or pulls each event + the usual banner rates are better than the usual gacha you find out there. Maybe it's similar to Nikke? Some anons compared the game to it in the past but I've never played it to be able to compare the two
There was 2 arenas until yesterday and now there's 3
You can just quick battle the first one so pick the weakest opponents you can find - Takes like 1 minute and gives a nice reward by the end of the season even if you don't reach high ranks
The way the points work in this one is pretty weird so beating someone weaker than you can give more points than beating stronger players (I managed to win first place some seasons ago doing this kek)
The second one works like: Each player can set 3 teams - You need to win 2/3 of the fights to get the points
You can do it 2 times each day but there's no need to do it everyday (for example after I reach the top 50 I just sit back waiting for the end of the season and just do it again if I drop out of it)
I never really felt pressured doing them and always got pretty far by just going after random low lvl players and teams
And the new one is >>1907110
Still need to do it so I can't tell you for sure how it works or how much it gives
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We have a lot less units though, and normally you'll have enough to pull the new unit as f2p during events.
Unless they keep being cheap like in this one or decide to use the same banner for 2 units like last one...
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>>1913380
Nikke greatly reduced the time it takes to do dailies to 5 minutes last month while S&B added new dailies this week. S&B has core dust too (it's called Divine Blood Drops here). Also yes, it also has the exact same arena copypasted from Nikke.
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E.Joan is busted af. She's an INSANELY good tank.
E. Joan
Albrecht
Acapella
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>>1913837
>If you get her to Syphon 7
>saying this to an Ancestral character that has a lower rate than normal and has to share the pool with the other Ancestrals
Anon I barely got one copy of her I'm not going after 7 more dupes
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>>1913890
Yeah maybe in the first 2 months of the game. SAiona is utter dogshit and more of a detriment with her repositioning but back then, she was the best healer because the alternative was an ancestor or Acappella who's not a healer. TNoah is just pointless. The other 2 are still busted.
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Her dmg is solid but only on the initial burst. Her kit is stupid because, right now, mine needs to deal 3.3mil to activate her over overcharge and her overcharge is the only way she deals dmg. Her first dupe conveniently solves this but only for the first rotation. All in all, she's a PvP unit and I regret getting her first dupe.
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Thoughts on using normal scrolls on Acappella's lunar vigil right now over saving them for future characters added to the normal pool?
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>>1913890
I believe it.
Bella is free and good tank.
S. Aiona was recommended everywhere back then and she is free, I think, maybe, I don't quite remember, pretty sure we can get her for free just like Bella. Not day 1, I think they updated one of beginner missions later.
T. Noah is the DPS for summon team, team is popular back then, Bella being part of summon team also helps.
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>>1914234
I'm surprised he still does videos on his sab channel
I thought he would drop it for CNZ
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He effectively did. He made a new channel for CZN and hasn't made any videos for SaB in nearly 2 weeks now. He was already crashing out since the Seraphina release. It make sense too when you consider he put out over 300 videos for the game only to watch interest in the game dwindle and the devs being incompetent to fix it. Now the other YouTubers making content for SaB are only pulling in a couple hundred views.
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>>1914270
Idk maybe all the content theyve done in the past, have shown they can do.
Remember the bella13 boss? That had some unique engagement. Maybe instead of 15 dupe teams Unga bunga we get a survive X minutes against a gauntlet of mechanics.
Remember those maze games?
How about a strict battle we have to figure out the correct characters to bring and the timings of ults/mechanics to defeat.
Oh there was the chess board one that could be a mode on its own.
Moontroon has shown they can create engaging content but choose to eos.
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After playing with both an account with TAiona and one with TJoen(was rerolling to get both but settled on TJoen with guarantee TAiona), the devs releasing a character like TAiona must have been their greatest mistake having an all rounder killing everything and anything with massive sustain, when you clearly should have characters specialized at what they do and could bring to the game, she just kills the game and I finally understand after lurking why everything is a statstick now
Grim future but the story and sex appeal will make me stay for a while, until the fatigue settles in, hoping the devs take on drastic measures to move the game around and goes full coomer as a last ditch effort
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>>1914389
It was quite the surprise for everyone just how much damage she could pop. Tons of players skyrocketed in gear stages and story because of her
Honestly have no idea why they released her like that. She just came out of nowhere shortly after the summer banner
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>why everything is a statstick now
In her defense everything already was a stat check before she came into play
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>>1914397
That's just what happens when you are trying to please suits and make money I think, when the vision fades then the gameplay always takes a hit, I'll have fun grinding with Joen until I get her in 11 days or earlier
I just finished chapter 3, used 40 (60 with the free coins), I have 0 gems right now, do you guys think it will be enough to roll for summer Bella when she comes back and maybe aim for s3
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>I just finished chapter 3, used 40 (60 with the free coins), I have 0 gems right now, do you guys think it will be enough to roll for summer Bella when she comes back and maybe aim for s3
Yeah you should have plenty of gems by the end of the boat arc
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>>1914450
You can't take the Nikke model without adding its most predatory monetary salespoint which are the shards, I have no incentive to swipe when I see people already claimed 1st place on most gamemodes with level 200+, I will then just save and enjoy
>>1914459
That's good to hear, I'll go with 1 copy of bella hoping they add the other summer girl with her fat tits all over the screen then save for anni, Joen, Aiona and the standard character will do for me, my fav being Seraphina which I luckily got already
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>>1914466
This has shards, buddy. The game launched almost as close to a 1:1 copy of Nikke as it could without the shooting, minus Nikke's generous gold ticket system. It got some good QoL updates for its first 3 months and then spent the last 3 months adding features more predatory than Nikke ever has in its 3 years.
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>>1914473
In fact the latest Clan Hunt (equivalent of Union Raid) introduced guild shards for the fucking clans around the same level to compete on an extra leaderboard against each other more directly, which not even Nikke does.
If you think there are no shards because of the Gauntlet (equivalent of Rookie Arena), that mode is meaningless in both games. There's shards once you unlock the Crucible (Special Arena) and you should already have shards in Blood Moon Rising (forgot what it's called in Nikke, the ranking for game progression).
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>>1914479
It's definitely split into shards (I'm #2 for Tower of the Kingdom in my shard on a F2P account that started a month late and I've been in competitive reach since the beginning) so I don't know why yours is like that. My only guess is that so few people have registered in your server in the past few months that it hasn't filled up a whole shard this whole time, but that's wild.
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I've lost the plot entirely. Did they expect us to clear chapter 21 before this event started? Because at the end of CH20Joan is with Pavana and a dead Alene in the desert recovering her spearand suddenly now they're all somewhere else fighting moonhead man and Noah is still around after being gone where exactly? The last coherent part of the story was whenCain and Limine wonand after that it's just fucking events and sluts abducting Noah on a fucking spaceship.
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>>1914614
I see it as an event comfort whales, cause i doubt there's many f2p that can pass the bp wall. Also Noah goes to visit the sluts after they lost the battle in the current timeline, pretty sure he's using their technology to become rove-I mean the wanderer
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>>1914614
From the event, my guess is that Seth has her own versions of the 13 calamities in the bellringers and Joan is Seth's equivalent of War. I guess even Seth's version of War is acquired by trial. The part where Joan has her friends' spirits within her and saying she wants to see the beginning of everything reminded me of what Genevieve/Mass did. Noah is probably checking on the different calamities guarded by gravekeepers like Letitia after the Long Night descended with time shenanigans
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Interesting
I dig it. Game could have a short recap of the story specially for events that take place after the latest chapter available since most players probably couldn't even clear it to know what's going on
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>was watching an anan video and saw this
get a minimizer for the fucking shops and clear your bitch ass UI chinks my god
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This shit alone is around 25 minutes to do since the average I do them at is around 2 minutes per stage. Fuck me. How do you make dailies even more of a chore than they already were?
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>they don't autostart after completion like in infinite abyss
Ok this is a huge problem
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When playing RPG mobile games, which of the following [Character Body Types] do you prefer? Please choose at most 5 options
Curvy Adult Females?
Curvy Young Adult Females?
Slender Adult Females?
Slender Young Adult Females?
Youthful-looking Females?
Muscular Adult Males?
Lean Adult Males?
Muscular Young Adult Males?
Lean Young Adult Males?
Youthful-looking Males?
Among these, which [Character Body Types] is your favorite?
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>>1915908
Thank you for your service, vassal
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>>1913197
The other 10 scrolls of each are in the Midnight Redemption so it's still 20 of each per event
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>>1915894
Asked for more muscular males so you all can have some skip banners
No need to thank me
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>>1916360
I love the retards who are like, I picked buff male so people who don't like it can save gems by skipping. Completely missing the point of the survey.
Personally, I picked whatever, and emphasized more gothic horror vibes, especially considering the survey hand tons of fantasy slop like elves and shit.
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>>1916467
>don't give them a Satin Boudoir
Would they really do that though? Honestly, I'm surprised they actually add males options in this survey considering Albrecht and Julius are the only new males we got after launch and both are free. Even their half-anni teaser images are mostly womens, with Noah being the only male.
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>>1916471
I don't think they ever would, but idiots on Reddit seem to think that's a good idea. Muh gender equality and all that nonsense. Not realizing that beauty is objective, and everyone appreciates beautiful females being sexy, even if they pretend not to. But objectifying men in the same way is off-putting, and making men cool and brave and handsome is how male sexuality works.
Women don't want to see a "bulge" only gay men want that. If women see a handsome dashing man with his shirt open, that's what gets them going. See Gilrain for example.
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I think the main takeaway from the survey is that I think they will be able to sort the answers based on account spending (idk if it's possible), so this might be the first time that if you did spend your voice might make a difference
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>moonlit revelation has the easiest combo from all the other stages since it's basically the same rotation over and over
>can't leave it on auto as I'll lose if I do it
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The game has quickly become a massive chore to play. In all honesty, the only reason I'm not quitting right now, is cause it's pretty evident the devs are trying to milk everything they can out of the remaining player base before shutting down, so might as well ride it out.
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It's crazy how every update they somehow managed to make everything even worse.
The Letitia update introduced the P2W bosses locked behind new Synergy characters.
The Succubus update had the gay double banner.
The Anniversary was supposed to be the grand slam hail Mary that brought everyone back, but the new syphon system is so much worse and they added a new chore that everyone hates and is eating everyone's tickets. That alone is much worse than everything else they've done in the past months that have tanked the game every time.
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>>1917755
>It's crazy how every update they somehow managed to make everything even worse.
>The Letitia update introduced the P2W bosses locked behind new Synergy characters.
>The Succubus update had the gay double banner.
>The Anniversary was supposed to be the grand slam hail Mary that brought everyone back, but the new syphon system is so much worse and they added a new chore that everyone hates and is eating everyone's tickets. That alone is much worse than everything else they've done in the past months that have tanked the game every time.
Guess they'll have to be happy with whatever whale that's left
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You're missing the point. Joan + Quinn is an insanely good tank combo which is REALLY difficult to break. That's what allows T.Aiona to dish tons of damage with Aca buffs no problem. Then add to that the fact that Joan's Ult also stuns. This is the best team in the game currently, imo. At least for solo content.
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So finally got TJoan with the AFK tickets, any reason to go past 110 now?
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>>1918589
>You think anyone will even remember SaB after it dies?
I'll remember my cute deredere, tsundere, denpadere, kuudere wives
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>>1918686
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>brings arguably the second best tank in the game
>joan team has two of the best suppports in the game
>not to mention the synergy buffs
>brings fucking aiona
>hurr the more you invest the better she is
stop just stop
this is the same VH scenario all over again except synergy buffs this time around: tank bella tanks, summer bella buffs, acapella go vroom, VH go pew pew. VH was never good, its all the shit around him that is
t.joan is mid for an ancestral, at mlb... Quinn and Tank Bella have better tanking potential due to meat shield puppets, relic boost for Taiona, Tank bella is easier to mlb, confers way more in the long run all without having a synergy team and has the benefit of being easily put into any team. hell, acapella and albrect can fit into any team with ease; joan doesnt and requires those two.
>>1918676
>numbers barely 10k above last month
no, devs dropped the ball hard timing their suck half anni during the most greedy seasonal opportunity. if they went with a holiday event and holiday seaonal unit or two those numbers would be at last 60-100k over last month. that 10k gain was just the few whales buying joan and really concerning that its so small
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>>1918713
I don't really see the game being that costly to maintain and even if it was who cares there's always mobile legends to siphon money from
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>>1918716
Anon, did you fail math in school, or what?
A game like SaB has at least 200 people working on it. Devs, programmers, artists, 3D modelers, designers, marketing, bug testing, etc... etc...
Not to mention VA in:
English
Japanese
Chinese
So low ball the head count to 200 people. How much do you think each one is making a month in wages? $1000? I guarantee you it's definitely not that.
Keeping the ship afloat has to cost at LEAST $1 million a month when you start to tally up all the overhead costs.
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>>1918729
They're definitely running red.
Think of the quality of the art, and the fast turnaround on characters. Plus all the mini games they put out. Story events, writing.... Their team is at the very very least 100 to 200 people. They put out a fairly large quantity of assets pretty quickly. Multiple artworks per vassal, 3D model, attack animations, wallpapers, live 2D rigging. Ult animation. The art team slime must be at least 20-30 people, just to be able to get all that done in time.
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So at a team of 200 people, they need $800,000 a month just to pay wages.
Even if we assume a smaller team of 100 people, $700,000 wouldn't break even either.p
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>>1918720
The other anon cannot understand that they are in deep red and that is why we got the genshin/nikke update
I think all they need to do is just to kill skip tickets and make everything skippable, otherwise it will truly be over, I barely login just to pull but I will be on my way out soon, simply hoping they remove the skip tickets before I make the final decision
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>>1918593
What happened to this game? I play and whaled a bit when it first release but I dropped it due to the timegate and too many banners. Did the whales leave due to greed or the devs messed up the new contents?
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>>1918951
I don't know
>dropped it due to the timegate
But that is probably one of the main reasons
Ppeople just don't stick around when the main gameplay mode locks you out due to your power being too low
That and the lack of alternative gameplay besides it. The Mausoleum is nice but it gets old after some time
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>>1918951
They added skip tickets, and new upgrades to your siphons while at the same time locking the final upgrade material to the top 1% with full echoed faction gear. Also where you farm materials use up all your skip tickets anyways
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This is a doozy to explain without paragraphs. The base content was all stat stick checks with terribad startup characters. T.Aiona absolutely shit on all of that so hard all base content was moot; subsequent events too. This left a boring whole for content and moontroon just can't make content. So "challenge" bosses and clan hunts simply feature anti-T.aiona gimmicks, new synergy teams to force team diversity, and more scummy stat systems to force getting dupes.
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>>1918987
>So all banners of the same type share pity
>Limited banners and ancestral banners don't share pity
Sounds about right, but basically read the details section. It has been a while since we had an ancestral banner, and I gotta say i prefer limited rules
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thats the way the devs designed it at least
but be careful because on the livian+alex double banner it was bugged with the pities
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The afk thing does upgrade based on how far you pushed into story (normal and hard). You'll eventually get 9th gear but what you want is 9th faction gear. Thats rare, has to be upgraded to max; hammer used to upgrade and stats rolled on. Its a huge pain despite hammers being easier to obtain in recent months. Usually you'll be getting your desired gears and hammers off daily bosses (normal or the other one, doesnt matter).
When you get to high rank pvp and dont auto resolve, you will see someone's team somehow get 3 ults and blood moon fucking fast. This isnt the cheese combo of artifact+summons (Bella gilrain clive). Its having an entire team rocking 10th faction all max blood rate recovery and damage % increase on all 20 peices of gear. Good luck.
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First, we get thirty free pulls.
Second, if you invested into Joan, you're gonna wanna save rolls for the next vassal, as it's clearly going to be part of the Joan Synergy, will push her team even further, AND will be necessary for the third gear boss, which will obviously require Joan's team.
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of bella? 1 is good for base content
her and taiona will make all base content a joke
its just clan hunt new bosses high pvp need higher dupes because stat checks scale too high and shes very required for whoever is the dps
if you dumped for tjoan im not sure what to tell you because her team will be getting some addition in the future but i dont know when or how good that character will be (worth dumping on too)
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i actually havent looked into those ones as i already have all the ancestors and never bothered
i think you get the featured ancestor if you do get a lucky hit before pity? again im not sure
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Also new Setti. She joins Windchasers. Both of them get Resonantia, so you will need multiple copies. Idk if Setti is ancestral or not, but both have a 4% drop rate, at 50% of SSR drop rate, on individual banners. It doesn't seem you can get either for free though.
Also, no one else gets Resonantia. It seems they're gonna be giving it mostly to new Vassals so people have to pull for multiple dupes, to milk the whales.
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She's beautiful as well
Good to see they can make great designs so easily
Also new code
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>Her Base BP is now 24,364
Lol punishing TAiona believers
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>Why do people like Setti so much anyway? She was a lame jobber in the story and a pretty useless SR vassal.
Big brown milkers, but realistically every sr should've had ssr by now since we don't have a breakthrough/rank up system
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>>1923214
I was actually about to, because I could ln't get my 4th dupe from the special 13 day pull. I bought one scroll, but when I realized it'd be $100 bucks for her, I decided against it.
What a shit bag move. $100 bucks, and they nerf the shit out of her. Now they push the fuck out of Joan.
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>There is literal proof ITT she got nerfed
>Nooo don't believe your lying eyes!!
How do you explain the changes?
Why is not only her BP, but all her stats lower than it was before?
Maybe the people on discord haven't noticed yet. Let them know, and have them look into it too. Because Moonton aren't being transparent about this, it's up to us to figure it out.
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>honestly its a good time to quit
>they dont have content and only crank out goon
They could've cranked out goon sooner, still surprised older costumes arent in the shop(it's not like they have bonus stats that they wanted to fomo)
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House Mortis
UID: 406126593
Lvl 7 | 15 Members
The next Clan Hunt is almost upon us! Tomorrow clan doors shut, so join us now for glory, crests, and honey.
Players absent for 8+ days are removed, so our activity is always reflected in our count. We regularly reach 6-7% after each hunt, and top contributors are rewarded with the Elder seats for that period.
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>>1923274
To be fair, It's majority randos.
I started advertising here in July after people complained about clan leaders quitting and letting their clans become 80% AFKers with 20+ day records of absence.
We crush Clan Hunts, and I'll be getting Valora this time, finishing my vassal roster.
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Lmao, the Discord for this gacha game is so cucked. Wtf is this?
>Don't lewd the female characters without their consent, it's not funny
Srsly?
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>>1923701
Damn, bro, that sucks. Too bad no active clans posted openings before hunt began.
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>>1923474
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>first 10x free pulls
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>>1923762
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>>1924992
We still have 2d16h left on Clan Hunt before recruitment is open again.
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>>1925711
For SaB?
According to Sensor Tower, the revenue crashed over the last 30 days.
$200,000 in JP.
That's half of what it made in the whole of December ($400,000), right in the midst of the half-anniversary. So you tell me.
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>>1925702
We're just not bumping every 10 minutes
Plus nothing to talk about right now
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>>1925913
Bro, honestly, I don't know. But if you go to Sensor Tower right now, it says:
>JP revenue, last 30 days $200,000
People will argue, "oh but sensor Tower doesn't count. Yeah ok, but the trend holds. Dec and Nov JP had $400,000 revenue. That's 50% drop. Now true, Jan isn't over, but that's actually worse. Last 30 days accounts for the PEAK of the Anniversary stuff.
Meaning one if two things:
Anniversary revenue bump was front loaded in preparation for it.
Or Jan is a black hole of revenue so far.
If Lucile doesn't see a massive revenue bump from baiting whales into PvP, the game is COOKED.
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>>1925702
I am not sure the community is dead. I play another game released in the same time frame as SaB called Mecharashi. They also moved from /vg/ to /vmg/ and its thread is several time deader than SaB. But revenue wise, it is doing very well, stabilizing at 700-800k even in a dead month. This game is killed by bad monetization
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>>1925954
People blame the game for being to generous as a fault, but that doesn't help explain the massive drop in players that rapidly happened over 6 months. In fact, that also wouldn't track as it did really good in the first two months. Off to a great start. High player count, good revenue. It just nosedived in August and never recovered. I'd say the faults lie more in the lack of meaningful content, or rather the release if content.
It sound crazy, but the initial base roster for this game was way too high. Look at CZN for example. You want your base roster to be small enough for people to get used to the game.
Like, the first batch of SSRs should have been the likes of Bella, Cidhall, etc... alongside Dalcarlo and Lamia.
Fredrick, Gilrain, and Starry Aiona also should have been banner SSRs.
All the Ancestrals should have been released one by one. Rather than T.Aiona, it should have been T.Hati. The release if SSR should have been slower too. Instead if two at a time. You need to give people time to get used to the new characters. Experiment with them. Upgrade them, etc....
The story should have been better paced. I actually really like the Bathory Castle chapters and the Clive chapters, but both were over super fast, and many things were barely explored. It's like the story just rushed from one beat to the next. The whole Bathory section feels like it should have gone on for longer, and should have had more events to explore the other characters and the elders, and the castle itself. One of the best events was the Lamia one for that reason.
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>>1926013
You're completely ignoring the fact that this game released as a 1:1 copypaste of NIKKE, a massively successful game, much bigger than CZN. It released with a similar initial roster and the same amount of Pilgrims as S&B did Ancestors. The banner releases were also 1:1 to NIKKE's banner history, down to TAiona being released when Modernia was released in NIKKE.
You wanna know what happened in September for S&B's revenue to get quartered? They completely stopped copying NIKKE. On the patch that NIKKE did its first collab (with Chainsaw Man), bringing in a lot of new players, S&B instead introduced the Satin Baudoir and Blood Convenants to try to force players to roll for dupes, something NIKKE has never done. Every single patch since then has introduced some new greedy mechanic unique to S&B.
NIKKE players tend to hate on collabs for taking resources away from NIKKE's own worldbuilding but the devs have been very open about how important the collabs are for bringing in new players according to their metrics. If Moonton had picked a good property to collab with in September, they could've gotten a new wind. Instead they chose to alienate the existing playerbase with greedy tactics.
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>The banner releases were also 1:1 to NIKKE's banner history, down to TAiona being released when Modernia was released in NIKKE.
I still find it funny how they went about copying Nikke so much down to the busted pilgrim warping the game entirely and fast tracking everyone into endgame even faster than Modernia did.
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There is no staying power because the game is just a very simple auto-battler, anons. I am the one that played AFK arena and mention it here and there and even it had a slightly more engaging gameplay because positioning mattered. It doesn't matter at all in SiB. The characters are pretty, the animations are nice but the gameplay just isn't there.
And because it isn't there, there is nothing to talk about. By the looks of it it boils down to having TAiona and the limited Bella and just pushing through battle power deficit.
It is one of those titles that are only fun if you are f2p and take it slowly because there is nothing waiting you there at the endgame.
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>Man, this community is deader than dead. This thread is a ghost town, and even Reddit isn't better either. I feel like we lost like 70% of active posters since we moved to /vmg/.
Sure its vmg fault and not moonton...
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>>1926272
You can set it to auto but it's a gallery shooter. They didn't copy NIKKE's gameplay but they copied all of its systems and values. Every patch since September has introduced shitty new systems of its own, but at launch the only relevant differences off the top of my head were
>Different pity systems (NIKKE's is far more generous in the long run)
>S&B's Timeworn Masouleum and NIKKE's Simulation Room are booth daily roguelite modes for the same skill mats but S&B's plays totally differently with its inventory system mechanics
>Council Chamber raises your bond with 5 vassals simultaneously while NIKKE has 10 individual advise sessions per day
>S&B's Shards guaranteed SSRs from the start, NIKKE only added guaranteed SSR Molds recently. Also, every standard Vassal gets their spirit added to the Echo Shop.
Aside from those things it had pretty much copied NIKKE down to small things like how much of an item you got as a reward and how much of an item it takes to level up, etc.
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I think I might just quit. I don't think this game has much left to offer me anymore. I picked it up cause I liked the art and gothic aesthetic, and I enjoyed the story, but the game has become a massive chore, and even the story and aesthetic have pivoted hard away from the original horror aesthetic.
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Anon is right. I treat it as a side gacha I play for free. The story is time consuming but honestly it gets bad around the time Ranna and Ami are introduced so I don't know if future chapters get better. Currently starting ch10. Waste time if you like it or just move on. Things won't improve because just like Alchemy Stars there are problems with the core of the game.
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I can't believe they somehow found a way to make it look even more shit. It's less confusing now but man does it look bad
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I feel it's sorta telling that the devs are placing so much emphasis on this. It's clear they want to bring more attention to how many dupes a character has in order to encourage people to roll more. The fact they've changed it twice already back to back shows how desperate they are.
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Does it really matter when they play the same and most aren't even good to begin with? This type of thing is bad because future characters will have parts of their kits hidden behind the dupe wall but even them most won't be good because of the power deficit once you get to a stage you can't complete.
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>suddenly can't auto Cradle of Blood anymore
Huh?
I don't remember Pestilence being able to shoot her goo at me before I can finish her spawns
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>>1927112
I think you're missing my point in my original statement. The fact that they've placed so much emphasis they've had to redo it TWICE now, when it's just a stupid icon, goes to show how desperate this ga must be at their offices financially atm.
Also, if you think they're going add Reso to every Vassal and not just new ones + old ones that help synergize and push new ones, then you are a fool.
Literally every single vassal to get it so far is part of the latest three pushed teams. In fact, Leti and Sera getting rerun banners explains why Ressa and Thibault got some when introduced.
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>>1927234
nta but all their greed updates and dupe forcing crap should have been ready and available at launch
other anon way above hit the nail on the head with the poor execution >>1926013
this trash behaves like its still in beta and the sheer lack of content is telling
if they actually stopped pushing all these minigames, copypasta boss modes, and third arena and made some real content they'd have a decent chance to stablize their revenue
at this point I beleive they have an eos date set and are just working the ropes to squeeze who ever is still paying
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Lucille's Resonantia
>Dreamscape can cause Stun for 3 sec. (Resonantia 5)
>Inflict Dreamscape for 16 sec at start of battle to 2 enemies with highest and lowest HP. (Resonantia 5)
And her ult inflicts Delirium (Increase Bloodsoul cost by 2) if the target already has Dreamscape. This sounds interesting for PvP. NPC PvE enemies doesn't use Bloodsoul, right?
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>>1927705
>Increase Bloodsoul cost by 2
Sounds like a pain to deal with but I need to face some teams with her first to see how much that changes the result of battles
The cause stun part is quite interesting
Not sure how enemies cast their skills maybe they do maybe they don't
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>wrapping it up
What? It's setting up the second part of story event that involves Setti. Lucille's story is just showing what happened to the rest of the world after Limine was resurrected and started the blood moon while Noah and Agares disappeared. There's a power struggle in the church because the Silver Cross who isn't lead by by Seth is trying to wake up their leader the high priest. Noah still isn't back from drifting between time and space unlike the in the E. Joan event. The second half probably has Agares showing up because we can see him in the event's background art beside the new Setti
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Just found the eclipse glory champion in the arena
Lvl 311 whale with full 10 dupes on every character
Also did any of you join that mode?
I never got the option to place my team so I guess I missed my chance at the time
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I honestly never cared for both. I have Su, Noah, Sakuya and Mari in my bed already. Though, I have to thank Yukikaze for getting me into the franchise. This is the first card I got in a collab TABA had with an erogame I was playing.
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>>1930834
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>>1931583
Her and Seth are the only good base Ancestrals. Hati is the best, actually. Ami is ok, but there are better tanks. Noah is potential man, Summon team is a dropped concept. Seth has the bonus that she's a good slot in for the Wind team.
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>>1932901
I hate it.
>take yellow or green path
>get dogshit rewards
>take red path
>get fucked by RNG
>face the mob that just pumps more and more enemies and still lose out due to time because one enemy lived for 2 seconds too long
>despite my team being the E.Joan team with T.Aiona and F.Bella
>Oh and btw, when you lose, not only is all your loot gone, but also the stuff you took in with you for the raid.
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>>1932814
dang...
anyway it doesnt matter because all these USA players are finally going to realize this game doesnt have content and they were logging in for virutal nothing burgers
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>>1933875
Vampires?
No, seriously. I picked up this game for the Horror stuff. If this is the direction it's legit going to go in from here on, then I'm just gonna quit. There's no longer any reason to keep playing for me.
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>>1934130
i think anon is referring to the fact the story deviated so hard from its grounding premise that very little actually remains
yes silverblood is church and the church fields a lot of robots, but it seems to be going tha only the bellringers and maybe their second hand man are actual people
not to mention this story is now alternate universe time traveling reincarnation jumpskips
may as well make space cowboys and ninja pirates to complete the circus
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>>1934152
I don't get this type of argument because the story became mediocre as early as the moment Noah met Hati. I don't really think it was ever horror, in fact I don't even know if they are actual vampires all things considered.
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>>1934309
>ignores titty vampire turning noah
>ignores noah going vampire
>ignores mr suave and sister titty vampire drama
>ignores werewolves and zombie outbreaks and maybe monsters
despite the story itself already falling apart by chapter 2 my point about the story thematics being present up until chapter 4 stands
it wasnt by any means executed well but people's argument about what the story has become is valid
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>>1934337
This guy's summed it up quite well, even up to the boat section, it continued to be this Dark Fantasy/Gothic Horror blend. But it was especially strong at the start. Doubly so with direct callbacks to Bloodborne with The One Reborn and the Holy Moonlight Sword bit from Ludwig the Accursed. I expected we'd get more stuff like that, and explore more Gothic Horror tropes (of which there are many). Many of the characters too, played into those vibes perfectly as well, like Sirene, Cecia, etc... but most remained wholly unexplored by the story, left as only a cameo in that godawful rushed final act.
Then, we rush to this apocalypse scenario, only to suddenly pivot to the desert with totally new characters, the gothic aesthetic all gone, Noah time traveling and meeting Fantasy Dragons and becoming a Knight in futuristic dream.... It's nonsense, and stupid. I hate it. This isn't what I signed up for, and it continues to double down more and more in that direction. For all its flaws the one thing that's kept me coming back ks the cool gothic horror angle and aesthetic. But now that seems to be gone too. All the girls are barely dressed now and don't even play into those tropes anymore, and the story has reset and become nonsense.
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It was a lot of nonsense desu. She was revived and the world after ch.18 or whatever went to shit, and now a new villain with a moon head roams about. And even her event story leaves on an unresolved cliffhanger, and requires you beat Chapter 21 in order to have full context on the events (and even then there are still gaps). The conflict resolution was also really weak. There's an attempt at an emotional rugpull in revealing that Alene is dead (think Bruce Willis), and it serves as Joan's motivational power up, but again. Alene is a brand new character barely introduced in ch. 19, and she's not all that likeable from the getgo, she's just whatever. And the power up still feels like an asspull.
iirc, the event story starts with Joan effectively dying because her silver blood is running out or whatever. And then she's given a new power up. Pretty much the same way she did in ch.20. And again, if you can't cleared up to ch.21 things are going to make very little sense.
Not to mention all the characters you actually grew to care about are all gone.
And don't even get me started on the new Lucile story. It's even more nonsensical.
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They truly fumbled such a easy dub with this game.
It truly goes to show that not everything is as easy as it seems, for the bystander it does look like a dub, but for the devs and producers it must have been an entire different story, not adding the suits on top requesting quotas and destroying any vision the game had.
This game peaked with chapter 1 that's it. If the game makes it until Empoussa then I will stay until then, but it is looking like an uninstall angle.
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>>1935708
Gacha revenue hasn't updated yet anon:
https://revenue.ennead.cc/games/silver-and-blood
It's still January.
However, this is what sensor Tower is reporting:
Global:
https://app.sensortower.com/overview/com.moonton.silverblood.eu?countr y=AU
APAC:
https://app.sensortower.com/overview/6743625615?country=JP
$260,000 not counting China.
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Mortis leader here, my text fonts have not been visible for months so I don't know what the boxes say.
Is there a plan for NA servers to come back, or is this a PR move for EoS?
Just want to know if I should keep checking back or move on, this was the first 'mobile' game I've played in years.
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[Adjustment Schedule]
Suspension Time: 01/21/2026 02:00 (UTC-8)
Maintenance Time: Maintenance adjustments officially begin on 01/21/2026 04:30 (UTC-8) and are expected to last 3-5 business days.
※ The actual reopening time is subject to change based on actual conditions. Please refer to official announcements.
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>>1935834
Moontroon just revealed they dont know how to business. Having an NA server alongside global was news to me when this debacle was announced. Servers arent cheap and why have NA alongside global? Unnecessary cost; they should have just started them on global. With how fast (6 months) this game bled out that money definitely could have went to the voice acting, actual fucking content, and better storyboarding.
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Since a few days I am unable to quick-clear most Lost Courtyard stages since I seem to lack tickets.
I've been doing it this way for months and never realized clear-tickets were a super limited resource apparently(?).
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You can just auto them
Only the first and third ones are a bit finicky
The first being a question of how many bugs can Van Helsing kill before you break the boss spit skill (since it will kill you) while the third is having enough damage to bypass his shields
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My Alexi with maxed skills can't dispatch the mole rats in one ult
I'll need to get more copies of her at this point to be able to kill them all in one go
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Yes. The whales that showcased their perfect Van Helsings 7 months ago confirmed it. Skills up to level 4 are considered freebies and the rest are small boosts that get overshadowed by dupes.
The class stats and archetype stats (I forget what they are called) are the second place stat stick padding, followed by affinity. 4th is actually the gear.
Dupes>archetypes>affinity>gear>skills
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Setti's half of the event starts from when Noah, Empousa, and Aiona left for Hati's village. A lot of scenes are done in the old 3D cutscene style but the vn style cutscenes aren't completely gone.The last event stage really feels more sci-fi now. It's mostly because of how the other Setti talks but the music is adding to the sci-fi feel too. I don't like it. The music is cool but it makes it feel way more advanced than magic alchemy
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>cyborg
The CG also showed them submerged in green goo vats so I think they're like grown clones but Setti calls one 'inorganic puppet'. No mention of silver blood but the other vice commanders have clones. I think that was what the Darcia clones were in Lucille's story
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She's basically to Windchaser what Alene was to Dusk. Replace Ressa with her. She gives a passive damage boost to the whole team by existing.
T0 she's worth running.
T1 makes her more of a damage dealer herself
T5 gives a huge boost to her buff
T9 obviously maxes out her potential, since he passive is based on attack.
Simply including her makes your Seraphina do like way more damage. Plus, she also boosts Leti. With her in the team, a 5 Windchaser team is now viable, like for Dusk.
Leti
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https://silverandblood.moonton.com/m/
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Because people complain there aren't enough Kingdom Vassals. Letitia should have been kingdom. Lore wise it makes sense. Plus, if she had been, right now Windchaser would be a viable team in the Kingdom tower.
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I personally only made it to the end of ch. 21 before server went down. I did not have the BP to go further, despite starting early Summer.
I don't know how much further the main story continues, but the events stories are set close, to if not congruent with, the main.
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I finished ch.20 like a week ago.
It's not voiced, and it's really lame, and extremely grindy.
Like, the BP requirement goes up like by 100,000 through just the one ch. And it's the same for 21. I think the required BP for the final course is like 450,000 or something.
There's nothing else after it, and the story in ch.21 from what I can tell is picked up by the Joan event.
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Like on 20 or 21 can't really remember
Not really sure just how close the events and current story are in the timeline
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It's just people that don't play the game anymore going on servers and forums of the game to complain to people that play the game
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>you are Death
>I am ... Death
>Agares .. how are you doing this?
>Find me where it all started
>hey maybe there will be some interesting twist
>next chapter starts
>I am evil, I am War and I want to reunite with my love
What the fuck is this story?
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>>1940825
Check the drops
It depends on how far you can go on Crypt of Doom (it's way harder than the Restless Crypt stages and need a specific team to beat)
>>1940985
I'm afraid it's chinese western style kino
You'll get used to their way of handling stories eventually I guess
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It's nice to see my girl getting character development. Hopefully we'll get a SSR version of her soon.
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>>1941660
More detailed.
Revenue for Dec was $795,000
CN $165,000
Global $230,000
APAC $400,000
Revenue for Jan was $320,000
CN $60,000
Global $60,000
APAC $200,000
Gacha revenue should update shortly, but the data is in on ST.
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>>1941696
Don't get too bothered by the retards anon
Let them be obsessed with the game
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It's joever
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>>1942256
If I am getting things right there are 4 horseman and like 9-10 scourges and Seth and Aeon are the exact opposite. Joan is something like the opposite War and has already drank silver juice. Does that mean that Ressa will be the Death one?
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Shout out to that dataminer anon.
Is it possible to get one final rip of the game \ latest art assets? I was really fond of this game.
Appreciate all the dumps you did over the months.
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>>1944223
I deleted the game, after the US shutdown, wanted to see the revenue numbers but the writing is on the wall, I will miss Laetitia and Seraphina and my wife Aiona, no Ancestor Empoussa either but I will not play on the japan server either.
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It's Ancestor Empussy.