>>1914233
Is Blumine okay?

>>1914241
She died, only male MC now

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>>1914233
>>1914233
>>1914233
Reminder that only Hoyofags and subhumans use "Blumine" in relation to Genshin Impact's MC "Lumine"
Let them out themselves over the course of this thread.

>>1914273
femc is canon but this is also true

>>1914291
Higher quality version - https://files.catbox.moe/c66dj3.mp4

>>1914233
No buy

blumine won

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>>1914293
>newer characters wear safe shorts
Really craving for that hoyobucks huh...

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>>1914354

>>1914354
>>1914398
Reposting from the previous thread:
https://www.4gamer.net/games/784/G078487/20250928006/

>Zhang Yekai (hereinafter Zhang):
>While being recognized in Japan as "the company behind Azur Lane," in Azur Promilia, we have ventured into a new field of 3D open-world. Through this game, we aim to reach a wider range of users and establish a new position in the Japanese market.

>Lin:
>(laughs) We indeed aim to showcase a different direction from Azur Lane. Unlike 2D, in 3D, we can portray the charm of characters in various ways. While Azur Lane emphasizes sexiness, Azur Promilia focuses on cuteness and expressions that make players excited.

Enjoy your blue genshin sisters
>b-but the characters in the CBT aren't cen-ACK
you really believe they aren't going to censor those characters? lol you are fuckining retard

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>>1914273
We don't even know her name or title, and even if I'm not a genshitter, I'd cum a gallon for her

Part of me wants AP to flop, so the lewd stuff starts ramping up faster.

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Why can't we have this in AP

>>1914485
Cameraman mode is all that AP has what are you talking about

>>1914485
No one moves like this in real life

>>1914354
>>1914398
At this point, it's obvious they're catering to the modern audience instead of their fanbase.

>>1914534
What the fuck does that even mean?

>>1914535
They're pandering to casuals.

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>>1914534
Seriously what were the AP devs even thinking with this decision. Even the upcoming anti-ML gacha NTE where they literally banned all ML discussions just caved and added more fanservice to the game

>>1914537
>no swimsuits

>>1914536
It's called "appealing to wider audience". Their core fans can stay with AL, if they don't like it, they game will be successful either way.

>>1914539
>It's called "appealing to wider audience"
>they game will be successful either way.
They never market the global AP release, or even worse they just literally delay it. They wanna appeal to a wider audience but they don't even try to market it, is manjuu genuinely that retarded

>>1914548
The only two regions that remotely matter to Manjuu are Japan and China. Nobody gives a single fuck about the West.

>>1914539
>It's called "appealing to wider audience". Their core fans can stay with AL, if they don't like it, they game will be successful either way.
That's suicide. You basically want the game to EoS early like the rest

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>>1914552
>regions that remotely matter to Manjuu are Japan
>Nobody gives a single fuck about the West.
lol lmao even

>>1914559
Thanks for proving my point.

>>1914561
>literally 40% of yostar's AZ revenue coming from global players
>Thanks for proving my point.
are you retard

>>1914559
Need to cut global before the feminist group forced the game to be censored.

>>1914559
Are Koreans and Chinks really thaaat gay? They seem to only care about NTR.

>>1914575
Probably due to the art style of the gameplay.

>>1914575
They got their own servers, Yostar just handles publishing for JP and global.That anon is dumb for saying manjuu wouldn't give a fuck about the West, global revenue is literally almost equal to what JP makes.
For AP more likely manjuu bit off more than they could chew, they initially wanted to self-publish everywhere but they eventually had to cave in and give yostar their shares.

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>>1914536
Do you even know and understand what are you talking about?

>>1914804
Normies aren't fans

>>1914811
They took one whiff at the hardcore fans playing GFL and do 180 degrees

>>1914821
>implying people are still playing that woke gacha

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>>1914833
>Moving the goalpost
Oh my God, you are actually retarded

>>1914859
It should be obvious that harem games are good. They want to target the Genshin players to be the next Mihoyo.

>>1914899
Harem games are shit with no substance.

>>1914913
>having such a low testosterone
>>>/r/eddit

>>1914919
>They hated him because he tells the truth
They wouldnt be flopping and eosing left and right if they were actually good

>>1914949
I don't jack off to imaginary numbers.

>>1914422
Their title is 星临者 meaning "Starborn" (though it might end up being translated differently)

>>1914984
>Blue Starfield
>Starborn
Won’t this make Todd mad?

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>>1914984
>>1915100
Careful there, pagmiliakeks.

>>1915100
The whole game is a homage to yostar.

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Doesn't look great for the AP devs. They wanted the game all about the Kibos and the farm but literally nobody cares about them. So they're going to miss out on the wider audience they were aiming for.

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>>1915985
>OH NO EVERYONE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO ONE THING MANJUU EXCELS AT IT'S NEVER BEEN SO OVER!
More at 8

>>1916057
>OH NO EVERYONE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO ONE THING MANJUU EXCELS
By everyone you really just mean the small AL fanbase, the diehards who'd play no matter what and not the huge casual gacha audience. That casual audience is like 100 times bigger than the current AL player base and manjuu's been trying super hard to market and appeal to them. Pretty much they're failing at getting those casuals though judging by the BW merch sales and this reddit chart.

>>1915985
Even on shit like palworld or pokemon, the most popular end up being the female NPCs, not the criters themselves

>>1916065
Pipe down your hate boner, game is not even out yet.

>>1915985
>>1916065
Why are you defending women?

>>1916131
Because we are the majority in this fanbase.

Yuri status?

>>1916264
Blumine!

>>1916266
Who?

>>1916266
retard

>>1916131
>male feminist
Absolute cuck.

>>1916158
>implying they play gachas

>>1915985
If they wanted the game to be all about the Kibos and the farm, that's what they would monetize. But instead they're monetizing the girls. That's what the game is about. Games that monetize the critters exist and they sell you the critters instead of selling you girls. The game doesn't even need the gacha girls to exist but they added them anyway and are the major part of the marketing. They're not confident on their farming and Kibos at all.

>>1916377
>If they wanted the game to be all about the Kibos and the farm, that's what they would monetize. But instead they're monetizing the girls. That's what the game is about.
So how come at the first Bilibili world event pretty much the majority of the stuff they were selling and pushing was Kibo merch?

>>1916379
What does that have to do with his point? They're monetizing the girls in the gacha.

>>1916379
What do you think is going to earn them more money, someone buying a $30 plushie that had to be manufactured and shipped, or someone gambling $500 for a digital anime girl

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>>1915985
I'm in it for the Kibos

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I'll have them both

>>1916382
>>1916386
>They're monetizing the girls in the gacha.
Who said about not monetizing the kibos in-game? There was literally a shop right in the CBT, you could buy not only characters, but special kibos and evolution items. So they are absolutely planning to make money from the kibos too.

>>1916392
Would rape it.

What kind of phone would you need to be able to play this game on a phone?
I'm thinking about buying a motorola edge 60 fusion with 8gb, would that be enough to play a game like this?
I'm clueless when it comes to stuff like this.

>>1916686
Xiaomi is the best phone right now

>>1916686
Don't buy phone, because even with High End PC, this game is still struggling.
Sadly if we don't buy any device now, the price will increase because of an AI.

>>1916686
lmao this game will be running like shit on phones, the cbt wasn't available on phones

>>1916686
Get a redmagic 11 pro, I have a 10 pro and can play wuthering waves with everything maxed at 120 fps with fake frames and you can't see the ghosting and artifacts with the small screen

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Azur Promilia booth sits empty

>>1916766
cute sluts, made for straight men

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>>1914233

>>1916873
Would the pink slut and cow maid

>>1916873
Ugly roasties

>>1916766
Sexy designs doko

Azur Lane player here. I don't care about Promilia shit.
Fuck you Manjuu for using our money on another genSHIT GAYpact clone instead of Azur Lane 2.

>>1917690
>Azur Lane 2
Fuck off

>>1917690
Preach king

>>1914899
No males so that's impossible, girls are going to skip right over this

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>>1918017
>girls are going to skip right over this
Anon you just don't get it, manjuu wants to have their cake and eat it too. They're being greedy trying to pull in both the coomer fanservice audience and the casual girl audience and you can easily see it in how they market the game. They literally came out and said:
>We indeed aim to showcase a different direction from Azur Lane. While Azur Lane emphasizes sexiness, Azur Promilia focuses on cuteness.
Now check out the marketing materials in the pic related, both of these days apart and that tells the whole story. The top one's pure fanservice for their existing AL straight male players but the bottom one is aimed at the wider audience.

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>>1918188
>The top one's pure fanservice for their existing AL straight male players
Mate mihoyo games show more skin that than, theres no fanservice on the image you posted, thats normal design for gacha females nowadays. AL fanservice is pic related

>>1918188
>forced asymmetry
no straight male asked for this

>>1918198
Pic is shit

>>1917690
>instead of Azur Lane
Fixed. I don't want Azur Lane 2 unless I can keep all my progress and bring all my girls into it. I want Azur Lane 5ever. Azur Promilia is the lesser evil in that regard. Let them absorb the modern audience.

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>>1918390
>Let them absorb the modern audience.
They don't exist.

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>>1918400
Well alright then? Guess we proved our superiority accidentally. I never asked for it. Maybe it's a pet project of theirs? I hope doesn't fail but I won't lose sleep over it either way. As long as AL keeps trucking I'm happy. We're too old for illiterate ADHD trend chasers anyway.

>>1917690
Tbh there's no point in making AL2 unless it's a multiplayer pvp type of shit.

>>1918330
Why are you homosexual?

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>>1914233

>>1918568
why is the dead girl moving? fucken AI slop

>>1918330
Straightest man ITT.

>>1918471
>there's no point in making AL2
Project TB, 3D dorm and Island Maker says otherwise.

>>1918198
You're comparing default skins with a limited skin.

>>1918583
>t. troon

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>>1918591
True patrician prefers modest body and attire with a tinge of fanservice not some overblown nymphos those are femoids and normgroids idealization.

>>1918626
so true, xis!

>>1918538
It's shitty fanservice.

>>1918626
>modest
Kill yourself.

>>1918895
You first.

>>1918626
""""Modest""""" attire is fine for defaults but being against sexy skins is another level of faggotry. Expected from this thread tho.

>>1918917
Sexy skins are only good in the form of clothing damage tbqdesuwa

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>>1918926
Wrong, retard

>>1918996
That works too, clothing damage still mogs though.

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https://x.com/_iYoko_/status/2007097446426714468

>>1919286
>roastie
No

>>1918188
It's always been a pokemon clone, those things will have to appear in some promos. But that doesn't change my point of most women skipping over it without male characters to shlick to.

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>>1919326
>It's always been a pokemon clone
>But that doesn't change my point of most women skipping over it
You dont know squat

>>1919352
>implying American women will play AP

>>1919326
>most women skipping over it without male characters to shlick to
>most
At least you didn't deny there are a group of women who play all female games like nikke, ba, al, uma because those are inoffensive towards them.

>>1919438
>nikke
>al
Those game can actually attract women? >>1918198

>>1919745
Korean women.

I was on board from the beginning since I wanted a monster collecting gacha and after hearing the game played like GBF Relink I'm really looking forward to it now. Hope we hear news about the official release soon

>>1919745
Yes, women admire voluptuous body and a nice guy MC. In fact, i've seen them self-inserting as those girls knowing the MC won't lay a finger on them.

Endfield releases in a few weeks and there's still NO NEWS about this game.
What are they thinking!?

>>1919823
>women
>admire voluptuous body
>self-inserting as those girls
>admire a literal nice guy MC
Do you honestly believe this

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>>1919921
>
I wish i could be as ignorant as you anon, i really do.

Females like cute things, and this game is full of cute girls and notPokemon.
Simple as.

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>>1920121
>Females like cute things
Wrong.

>>1920121
>cute things
:D
>cute things, for (You(Male))
:(

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>>1920121
>Females like cute things
lol lmao even.
>>1919438
>there are a group of women who play all female games like nikke, ba, al, uma
BA and Uma both got like a 90% male audience even though the fanservice is super tame it's just cute females doing cute things. AP has way more sexualized designs so I'm going to bet the game is going to be 95% straight males and the remaining few are just yuritroons.

>>1920152
>this cope image again

>>1920153
They ran this survey with a 30k sample size that's massive as fuck. The error margin is only ~0.5% at 95% confidence, that basically means if the poll says BA has a 90% male audience we can be 95% sure the actual number is somewhere between 89.5% and 90.5%.

>>1920152
>AP has way more sexualized designs
I laffed.

>>1920152
It's better to stop, because your opponent is anti manjuu schizo.

>>1920666
Nothing wrong with being anti Manjuu.

So pathetic that this game has doomers before it even has a release date. Sort your lives out lmao

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bros… will ap have trashnnies homos and females ? i dont want to share my game with them…

>>1921790
They are literally the target audience of Promilia, bwo...

>>1921792
its time to kill myself
may the Great Red Filter works properly on project rx then

>>1921799
The great what filter?

>>1921790
It already has furshit and males, the game's going to be EoS before the next year.

>>1921910
Two onaholes

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>>1923581
this means we will get waifurs too, based

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>>1923584
Yeah, but not for the MC. Also
>unironically using waifus
Yeah you are a normalfag, no wonder you play mihoyo games

>>1923581
Me on the right.

>>1923581
>female mc
>furry in the same picture
whatever i tried

>>1923587
Is your webm supposed to be a slander on kemono? because it only makes me harder

>>1923688
It shows how that character gets touched by literally everyone but the MC, because mihoyo

>>1923581
Blumine knotted

>>1923581
>>1923584
>furshits
Dead on arrival

i think this is the only game that cant stay on bilibili most anticipated game top 50

>>1925377
What happened?

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Wuwachad here. Should we feel concerned about this game?

>>1925763
A game with furries is dead on arrival.

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>>1925763
I honestly don't see much overlap between the two fanbases, in my case I'm going to play both (for a few months at least). You should be more concerned about:
>endfield
>the fact that every new unit is censored as fuck
>the fact that rover features less and less in the story and does jackshit for the last 4 patches
How did the story of wuwa went from rover being the god emperor and doing webm related, to doing literally nothing sin 2.6, 2.7, 2.8 and 3.0? I have my own answers, but you can imagine, couple with how different the designs are now.
wuwa has other myriad issues that compound this but I won't discuss them here.

>>1925823
yeah wuwa is for normalfags, AP is for true otakus

>>1925828
>AP is for true otakus
>Lolis got censored
LMAO.
Let's be honest AP is also for normalfags.

>>1925763
you'll be fine

>>1925823
It's okay to abuse women

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>>1925839
so true, such normalfagbait tier designs
cope harder

>>1925855
Not sexualize enough

>>1925839
>upcoming characters are nothing but hags
As if that didn't give it away already.

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>>1925855
Pounding Mitty

>>1925855
should've posted luruka
that will filter normalfags the most

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Genshin player here, i'll play this game when it released because genshin has been too much gay recently.
>>1925855
>>1925869
UOOOOOOOHHHH ToT

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>>1925915

>>1925915
straight men have spoken

>>1925915
Based. Every straight man wants to become a cute anime girl.

no need to project ml troon bro

>>1925923
Every straight man wants to watch a cute girl doing cute things

>>1926008
>Every straight man wants to watch
only cucks do

>>1925823
>god emperor
Kek.
Also if you're expecting Endmin being better then you're for a great disappointment.
At first the characters are around him but in the very next major region he stops being as important.
I feel that the MCs of Promilia will be the same.

>>1925915
i love democracy

>>1925915
MLchuds BTFO

>>1926050
>ML
promilia isn't an ML game, and neither its a harem one, its clearly for normalfags because of the femMC and the small amount of safehorny it has

>>1926061
makes me kek that all those azurcucks giving money is whats funding this

>>1926106
>4/4 cow tits
loli bros...

>>1926106
>big tits hags
Limited 5*
>>1926112
>hebes and bodypokes
Standard characters
AP in a nutshell

>>1914233
>GL publisher: ???
grim

>>1926106
>>1926112
>pandering to furries
EoS soon

Its hard to be excited for this game when it was announced like 3 years ago and we've had proper news ONCE since

>>1926236
endfield is dropping yet this has no release date in sight
they better hurry before the market is completely oversaturated

whats this game even about, genshin x palworld copy?

>>1926357
it's exactly that

>>1926357
> zelda copycat plus pokemon copycat
didn’t know manjuu is such huge fan of nintendo, no wonder they are abandoning their al fanbase

the kibos feels more like a pet or mount from MMO rather than pokemon clone since the girls are still the main fighters

>Silver Palace in beta right now
>Ananta CBT 1 fucking tomorrow too
Wtf is doing Manjuu?
This shit is getting embarrassing, seriously. How much time do you need to shit out a Genshin clone with some pokemon sprinkles on it?

>>1927680
We literally had the CBT 4 months ago, shitposter-kun.

>>1927680
They are removing female MC and aging-up lolis while rewriting the whole story to be more WuWa adjacent.

>>1927703
And the game is saved

>>1927799
>he hates lolis
Faggot

>>1927680
>>1927799
They only had the first area and some of the characters done when they showed the first trailer, the equipment system, pet system, farming system, dupe system, weapon system, etc. weren't even done it was a menu mockup. They have in fact changed how that works like 3 times between betas.
So not only that, they had to remake the entire story and scrap a ton of stuff, because, you know, it was a mixed slop with the MC sitting in the chair, that doesn't fly anymore.
Basically they had to develop the game from scratch.

https://youtu.be/oJ00ggFb8A0
apbros.... when's our release?

>>1928535
Manjews simply can't compete, they will have to wait until Endfield hype dies down after release to even consider announcing any news about AP.

they are obviously not even close to finish the game anyway, desperate enough to sell their share to save their ass

>>1928535
I think that they showed exactly zero minutes and zero seconds of combat because its shit

>>1927680
>>1928535
AP has literally no reason to care about censored games that aim at homos and shippers. These games will bleed all their waifu players in a few months regardless of how successful their launch might be. There is just no way to satisfy a straight player withing 12+ constraints and keeping the homo crowd contented.

Hoyotroons arent welcome here

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>>1929084
SP is not a 12+ gacha, there is no upskirt fade unlike AP
>USA / Canada: NC-17 (movies) / AO – Adults Only (games)
>Europe (EU): PEGI 18
>UK: BBFC 18
>Australia: R18+
>China: 16+

>>1929101
It's heavily censored and underwent additional censorship before this beta. SP has nothing left that won't fit into typical 12+ MI/HG foid adjusted game formula.

>>1929101
>Showing normal pants
Is this mean to show your point?

We welcome hoyosisters here

>>1929101
neither genshin nor zzz had fade in betas, and their characters also had proper pantsu, and look at how that turned out after release.
Snowbreak is an 18+ game and it still gets censored (though they have uncensor trick)

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>>1929121

>>1929166
>Snowbreak is an 18+ game and it still gets censored
Devs want that modern audience

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>>1929110
>underwent additional censorship before the beta
you just described AP.

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>>1929207
Sure thing buddy

>>1929207
Snowbreak devs nearly made me pick up their game.

>>1929219
>censored
Pure shit.

Is this game yuri trash or has manjew changed it?

>>1927703
Is that true? Based

>>1929506
you are not the target audience, incel

>We welcome hoyosisters here
no you can go fuck yourself go babysit your drama general lol

>>1929506
It got furshit

turdies will forever seethe about blumine

>>1929572
We do though.

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>>1929121

>>1929607
Do we have this too, Promiliabros?

>>1929621
We have luruka's thong but that's it. The rest are either safe shorts or textureless panties with little to no shading. Not that it matters since upskirt fade is confirmed to be in the game.

my monthly check-in. does the game have a release date yet?

>>1929686
lol

>>1929194
it looks like her asshole is showing in the bottom screenshot

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>>1929084
Ananta and SP are 16+ gacha, they were never 12+ from the start that is why they got way more creative freedom for the art and fanservice.
AP though got gimped by its 12+ rating, they only changed it to 16+ later after they realized their palworld clone wasn't getting any love at BW so they changed the rating then threw in some more hags. Problem is the garbage leftover from being 12+ originally is still there, like the fade in censorship, Abby still being censored and those platonic as fuck character L2D interactions.

>>1930136
>garbage leftover from being 12+ originally is still there
New characters still have a chance to wear shorts>>1914398

>fantasy girls got mogged by victorians in lewdness
this game is done unless they make it more spicey.lets be honest no one is playing for kibo

>>1929723
I guess that's a no then. Til next month bros.

>>1930145
>no one is playing for kibo
The women will.

>>1930145
>more spicey
Erolabs

>>1930145
dude, AP is a game for women and children, what the fuck did you expect?

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>>1930577
we need more kids games like this

>>1930630
don't worry, it will get censored on release

>>1930577
Kek games gonna die even faster than AL will.

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>>1930577
We need more kids friendly game like this

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>>1930659
Based, we like censorship here.

>>1930664
Looking at this is just sad as fuck. You can clearly see what the devs originally planned for her panties before the censorship. Then they just had to pile on layers of censor details around her crotch just to pander to the general audience man.

>>1930659
>>1930664
ah yes, safetyspats
peak of eroticism

>>1930659
>>1930664
Wait I thought they had panties, what happened?

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>>1930709
Most of them look like dolphin shorts for my taste and they look bad when being captured using the pause camera trick, luruka is literally the only risque one so far.
The screenshots you found online was captured using two tricks; first is the pause cam, second is the mount tilt(basically your mount will tilt up if it detects elevation in front of them) which means there's no guarantee they'll keep these tricks on release.

>>1930723
>they look bad when being captured using the pause camera trick
Could you please post them all?

>>1930577
Women and children don't play gacha games in any significant numbers. This is an undebatable fact.

>>1930852
Ok, kids not, but women do.
Look at some of the gender player ratios some gacha have and you will see.

>>1930997
In any game that matters that isn't made specifically for women its always 80+ men an usually 90+. Women are an insignificant spending base that should never be catered to.

even if they did everything perfectly and censored nothing this game would still die
theres just too many games coming out and everythings oversaturated, most of these games will flop horrifically

>>1931038
>Women are an insignificant spending base that should never be catered to.
Yet these companies will try to get that 2% margin increase anyway.

why cant games just go back to ML with a male mc? im tired of mix slop.

>>1931038
That doesn't matter at all. You really think the oh so smart investors and directors of the publishing company are going to ignore 50% of the population? They could be potential customers! Cater to them! Its worth the loses on the already existing playerbase, we got them by the balls, they aren't going to stop spending!
Wuwa, by the by, is going through this process right now after the devs, kuro, got bought out by tencent.

>>1931068
>go back
fgo never did it
granblue never did it

>>1931079
those games are bad though

>>1931081
what are the good ml games

>>1931082
Azur lane, Blue archive, snowbreak, princess connect etc.

>>1931082
snowbreak? azur lane?
you either get good ML content or good gameplay, only one or the other

>>1931086
also girls frontline 1 and 2.

>>1931086
were you laughing as you typed this

>>1931091
no

>>1931091
He's right though

>>1931077
>Wuwa, by the by, is going through this process right now after the devs, kuro, got bought out by tencent
Really? How?

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>>1930852
>Women and children don't play gacha games in any significant numbers. This is an undebatable fact.

>>1931131
Cute strawman but we're clearly talking about gacha with sexual characters not cartoon animals.

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>>1931135
>we're clearly talking about gacha with sexual characters not cartoon animals.
The game literally has cartoon animals as the major selling point what a stupid hill to die on. In fact the devs even said in an interview they're planning on 100+ kibos at launch just to attract the women and kids audience.

>>1931147
If you think people are going to be rolling for kibos and not the girls you are the dumbest motherfucker on the planet.

>>1931149
Then why did manjuu pour a massive marketing budget into pushing the kibos anyway? It seems like you are forgetting the game originally went for a 12+ rating just so they could market it as a CN-flavored pokemon/stardewvalley clone.
If they seriously meant for people to play it for the girls, they should have just aimed for the 16+ rating from day one, practically every CN gacha title post-Genshin goes for 16+ because it makes getting around the censorships a lot easier.

>>1931091
i did

>>1931147
Pokemon is a brand household name that everyone has heard and can get into, you cant compare that shit with npc cartoon animals that no one cares about

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Can you just return to your "ML" mixed gacha game, I heard it's releasing soon, thanks.

i will return to this thread then

>>1931147
100+ kibos? sound's like that is a lot of work they have to put into modeling them, unlike human characters that can just copy paste asset or animation, that's why it is taking so long?

>>1931191
Because kibos are the core gameplay? It's not a fraud game like genshin, wuwa or enfield. There is an actual game separated from the gacha, this is what makes AP distinguishable from other gachas. It's palworld where you can also have a team of three waifus instead of bare bones avatar of the original game.
Kibos are indispensable for game coherence and the whole game loop. Waifus are indispensable because they are what is going to fund the game. Both are equally important since nobody is going to play another dull character model collector like all other 3d gachas are where you don't actually have anything to do with those characters because the game is not there.

>>1931237
this it bruh

>>1931309
People said the same thing about wuwa and the echoes.

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>>1931309
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>>1931309
I would believe it when they hire cosplayers for kibo instead of the chars

>>1931316
Echos were on par of the ZZZ's bangboos. Just a pointless cosmetic feature with almost no impact.
In AP even in combat you can simply wipe the floor, using only kibos, because they are that strong. Not to mention that the whole other content is kibo exclusive where your characters literally don't matter.
Wuwa, genshin, endfield are shop driven games where the whole program is build around the goal to make players spend, otherwise their experience would be miserable.
AP has full game build separately and then waifus are for the story and coom purposes.

AP will be a yuri game, deal with it.

>>1931334
this but unironically

>>1931334
That's the thing, you try to lump up AP with a gachas where there are only a few stages with mobs, stamina dump and some visual novel to make it look like a game.
AP has kibos, kibos are farmable via open world (open world actually has meaning, unlike other games)
AP has crafting system which is tied to kibos, your base and open world.
You farm kibos to for crafting, for resources management, for compat, for kibo related activities.
There is mix of manual crafting/catching and management. The is also RPG side because you teach kibos unique skills taking them to different boss fights. There is timesink, because the amount of time to get shiny and high grade kibos is potentially infinite. Plus new kibos with new biomes will be introduces constantly. There are kibos vs kibos and all that shit they promised to have on release.
All that is separate from usual combat, the only place where your gacha pulls matter and even there kibos are probably more important (at least on the beta the dragon kibo was superior to any playable character in terms of damage output and you could take 3 of them and simply rotate spamming their AoE).
This game monetization is not interferring with their game loop, this is what makes it good and what makes all other gachas shit, because in other gachas gameplay is treated as marketing tool to sell characters rather than something made with player enjoyment and engagement in mind.
They do this because they know hot waifus will sell anyway even though they aren't exactly needed for anything particularly important in the game.

not reading allat

>All that is separate from usual combat, the only place where your gacha pulls matter and even there kibos are probably more important
Gonna stop you spreading misinformation right there. The reason kibos seem OP as fuck compared to the pullable female characters is their constellation system is still locked in the beta. The girls only feel so weak because the combat and balancing aren't ready yet.
And we don't even know if they're going to release non-farmable banner-exclusive kibos. If those release the farmable ones are just going to be obsolete fast, collectible trash to waste time on in the gameplay loop. That already happened in another gacha I used to play, the farmable kibos were trash, the banner-exclusive ones were relatively OP and the pullable girls were OP as fuck.
The other anon already said that the equipment system, pet system, farming system, dupe system, weapon system, etc. weren't even done it was a menu mockup, they have in fact changed how that works like 3 times between betas. Nothing is set in stone yet.
You're pulling shit out of your ass saying the kibos are more important than the girls when the girls are the main way this game makes money and they haven't even figured out the monetization yet.

You are the one pulling it. First of all there weren't any relevant 'normal' battle content, it was all centered around kibos.
And everything announced is also stating that there are going to be three times the content for kibos specifically when the game releases.
Besides, they even said in the last interview that battle content is going to be optional, since they can't expect mobile shitters to handle the controls properly. So every combat content is going to be optional even if they introduce something down the line.
Their whole focus is around kibos, they are the game.
And lastsly, it's not like kibos were in their final form either, you know. The game progression is about catching kibos of highest rand and giving them skillsets according to their intended role.

>>1931412
>the farmable kibos were trash, the banner-exclusive ones were relatively OP
Yeah that's exactly what i saw in beta footages, everyone just stopped using anything else once they unlocked the dragon-form abby because she's overtuned as fuck and teamcomps other than luruka-luoqing-abby were pretty much nonexistent.

>>1931357
>kibos are farmable via open world
So just like wuwa monsters.

>>1931086
>Blue archive
You don't even marry the students, retard.

>>1931668
>they even said in the last interview that battle content is going to be optional, since they can't expect mobile shitters to handle the controls properly. So every combat content is going to be optional even if they introduce something down the line.
this is fucking pathetic, the devs literally said in the interview they wanted to put "harder but fun" combat into the game, but Lin shut the entire idea down right away, just so the women and children don't feel too alienated and left out if the game is harder than just left clicking.

>>1931668
You have to be absolutely clueless to think this game focusing on the Kibos is going to keep it afloat lol. How the fuck does a gacha make any money when the "real" content, the kibo, is free and farmable? if the waifus dont even matter why would whales bother pulling for characters at all?
You really think they're going to ditch the waifu fanservice whales just for casual steam players? Nah, it's either going to get nuked on steam because of the loli designs or the pc audience who already hate gacha will just skip it entirely anyway.

Anon this is like basic gacha 101. A game that sells characters has to focus on the damn characters. Shocker I know. Literally every single gacha ever, even the most normie ones like AFKJ or Limbus or even fucking Battle Cats, they all focus on the units they are selling. They continuously tweak the entire game to squeeze more money out of those characters. Nobody makes a gacha that sells characters just to "sustain" the game while putting all the actual effort into f2p farmable pets like the Kibos. Trying to hard pivot the entire game around free kibos while forcing paypigs to spend on characters that barely impact the gameplay mechanics? That shit is straight up DOA, it's just not sustainable.

>>1932011
If this is true my last hope is gone. Just put a gun to my head and pull the trigger already.

>>1932112
The premise that gacha can only survive if it's cheap cashgrab without gameplay is hilariously stupid. Game will always stay afloat if it's good and people play it, no matter what. Retention can always be transformed into money. Satisfied players will find the way to support the game.

this game wont even drop before nte and silver palace will it

>>1932256
>silver palace
You mean censored palace?

Endfield releases today.
Promilia is dead.

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>>1932112
I'd be willing to pay if it's a 30 bucks singleplayer game but as you said this game doesn't feel like it can sustain itself as a live service gacha unless they gave up on the idea of competing and settle with something like a yearly expansion pack. Of course that was assuming they hate money and this is their "passion project"(of which they don't since it's a genshit clone after all)

>>1932174
>If this is true my last hope is gone.
It is true lmao.

what the fuck is an endfield? we playing sportsball now?

>>1931954
ok and? all students are still very much in love with sensei.

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>>1932187
You don't know shit about monetization, the idea about "satisfied players" being enough to keep a massive AAA open world live service gacha like AP afloat is absolutely hilarious cope. Look at the prime example Roblox.
>https://www.matthewball.co/all/roblox2024
They are the biggest game ever with over 2x the entire steam player count. Unprecedented scale and retention, but guess what. They are very unprofitable. It's only still running because investors are deep in the sunk cost fallacy.
Doesn't matter how many millions of people are playing or how satisfied they are if the operating costs eat up your revenue entirely because the devs failed to monetize their game. The game can be perfect, the community can be awesome but if the cash structure is broken no amount of player satisfaction saves a live service gacha this huge.

Pagmilia has a better chance now that Endfield flopped.

>>1932866
>do nothing for 3 years
>every other hyped up game releases
>they all crash and burn
>every type of fuckup imaginable
>release last solving every issue
>win
Damn

>>1932866
as an al player I am confident that manjuu will flop just as hard

>>1932905
that's why manjuu ran back to yostar/nexon for publishing
they knew they weren't up for this

Will you be the promised savior of the Gacha Kangdom?

Only time will tell...

only if they turn femc into her own character.

>check out the new arknights game general
>everyone saying its trash and that we are the last hope to save open world gacha

no pressure bros.

>>1933251
i dont want other gacha fans to play this, theyre all SEA harem self insert incels like the guy above you

we want the pokemon fan audience, its 100 times bigger and more lucrative

>>1932505
>love
>no confession
>no marriage
It's platonic slop

>>1933254
>we
Retard

>>1933281
games not for you pagpag
go play slopbreak

>>1933251
>pagmilia
>the savior of anything
Silver Palace will save this genre

>>1933119
Pagmilia doesn't offer anything different over what's already in the market.

>>1933251
what even is the gameplay of endfield im too lazy to check it out

>>1933289
>Censored Palace
They already censored cinderella.

>>1933287
It's okay to say fag here fagfag.

>>1933254
"We"? You don't speak for anybody schizo.

>>1933287
>unironically wanting more pokeslop
>in a gacha
Neck yourself.

>>1933349
building a factory to feed the homeless

>>1933349
Tutorials to build factories

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>>1933287

With trannyfield shitting its bed AP actually has a bright future.
In no way or form any new AAA gacha will ever try to pander to tranny audience and downgrade gachas for usual and stable customers.

>>1933483
Endfield fuck up was just the paypal thing and just because of incompetence, again from a ch*nk dev.

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>[BREAKING NEWS]
>Arknights Enfield with a rating of 3.9 on Tap Tap
according to grok, from the records in the sensortower app store, it was a worse 1 day release in revenue than ZZZ, Wuthering Waves and Tower of Fantasy, with a huge spending on advertising compared to those 3 and with a dead HSR (4.0 patch in 28 feb) which is more worrying.

My analysis is that the gacha market simply can't expand anymore, or Arknights Enfield targeted a group of people who like to play but don't want to spend money.

>>1933483
AP will wait until ananta and NTE release to see in which ways they fuck up and improve that.

>>1933278
>no confession
you dont play the game
>no marriage
societal constructs dont mean anything