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FIRST FOR MIHOMO IS KILL

>>1935104
promilia is the lovechild

>>1935106
ayo stop the count

>>1935105
Salmon-Sama

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>300k day1
>1m day 2
>1.5m day 3
if they hit another million im expecting them to make at least 30m+ on memechart this month

Sorry Endfield did not flop, Asians are slurping extra hard.

Time to leave the bubble.

>>1935032
It's a guarantee, at least in Japan.

...if they remove femc

...in opposite day

...if they added shipshit

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>>1935102
>Endflop
Just like the old days, being annoying brings everyone together to beat you up

>>1935113
I told you xisters. After the initial Paypal drama is fixed, Endfield will beat ZZZ and Wuwa in February.

>did not even break top 3 in Chinese appstore ranking after all the hype
>already falling from the ranking
>IT'S NOT FLOPPING!!!
lmao
Stop coping.

>memecharts matter now!!!!!
lememeow even

Jeetfield lost

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SAD NEWS
Endfield underperforms even in Japan, failed to reach the top 5 and is already falling to rank 9.

>xe's still coping about apple's official rankings being "memechart"
LMAO

wu
won
saar

It's gotta be an ego hit to relentlessly shill some game for a month+ only for it to get the shit beaten out of it by literally everyone who isn't paid to pretend to enjoy it

>>1935124
arknights has bad izzat?

good morning from delhi sirs what game we defend today?

>>1935143
Wuwa.

>>1935143
redeem wuwon or die

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New ship just dropped

>>1935152
wuwabros can't stop wining

>>1935152
what's this one from?

>>1935152
QRD?

Hello sirs and xis. Is Endflop still floping today

>>1935160
Flopping? No.
Relevant enough to steal mihoyo players? No.

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>>1935156
It's clearly AI. Its funny because aalto is one of those characters that appears for like 3 minutes, wingman you to get the girl (exactly the same as brant), and then pretty much disappears, he is a bro. brant, as a reference, helps setting you up with carlotta

>>1935165
https://youtu.be/aWDlhOJ7MRc
shit forgot my link

Good morning saars. What is our favorite gacha here?

>>1935170
your favorite gacha is wuwa, sirs

>>1935165
If only those bros can stop clogging the gacha pool.

>>1935152
It's their fault for opening the floodgates. Now they will have never ending ships for all the girls/dudes from now on.

>>1935172
wuwa very good but is yours sir?

>>1935190
You got xim

>r/gachagaming - made up revenue numbers and ESL central

How does saintontas keep winning?

>>1935200
>chink tuber

wuwachinks?

>>1935209
I thought this place being a brown containment board was a meme

>>1935209
As expected of hoyogaming.

>>>/v731493862
arksisters, they hate it...

>>1935225
>>>/v/731493862

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>>1935215
it's ebingaming ackshually

the real problem with endfield is that the characters look boring. i get they're saving the popular ones for later patches but they need to have at least some hype looking ones early in, even genshin did that. arknights was popular for the art style making characters look unique. i don't know why they chose to go open world making every character look so generic and bland and stripping the color out of everyone.

>>1935227
HI3 is still 2nd so it's still very much a hoyogaming reddit too.

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>reached the 40 standard pity
>got fucking Pogchamp homo
FUCK, I WANTED LAST RITE OR EMBER

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TapTap 2025 Game Awards Winners

>>1935234
rigged

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>>1935234
AP is not even nominated....

>>1935242
scammer palace xisters...

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>>1935106
>>1935131
FACT: they will top all memecharts when they release exusiai

>>1935209
That country at the bottom doesn't exist before Vtuber btw

>>1935242
Because they don't pay for it. Meaning that the game is unlikely to release soon.

>>1935253
Removing femc from the game must've took a lot of development time

Bros... ourguy's post aged poorly
https://x.com/Tectone/status/1859772264625168763

>>1935209
reminds me of saintonta's viewer locations top 5 all being indonesia malaysia singapore philippines and whatever the 5th was

>>1935250
Exu should try topping the half anni in the game she's from first.

>>1935267
Why he abandoned gacha market? When he was the head of gachafag it was fun his replacement Saintotas doesn't feel the same

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AKE streaming commercial deal extends to Jan 27th. HG is godlike!

>>1935250
AK1 would've been dead if it wasn't for Exu 2 and the Ave Mujica collab.

test

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>>1935234
>best collab

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so this is why Endfield is MIA in the global scene:
>CN 48%
>JP 29%
>KR 4%
>TW+HK 5%
>NA 10%
>Rest of the world 4%
That ratio is literally the same as AK. So no new non-gacha players are even bothering with this, it's only the old AK veterans checking it out, which just proves again that the gacha market is saturated. I don't see any hoyo or kuro shills dumping their existing games to play Endfield either. Guess we just have to wait a month to see if the 1+1=1 health bar theory is actually true.

>>1935282
so when wuwa spends huge money on marketing it's desperate and pathetic but when endfield does the same it's brilliant and a mastestroke

>>1935324
The one who has been flaming gacha war are AKfags.
Reminder they're the one who started the censorship waves

>>1935106
Wheres yuribina on this chart?

>>1935233
>we got sephiroth at home
kek

Has some autist done math on how much they spent on sponsored streams and videos? must be in the millions right?

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>>1935340
probably 30%-40% of Tencent ad spending

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so the only people playing and spending on this game are OG ak veterans?
all the 1 star comments are pretty much about boring and the gacha is expensive

why was endfield so hyped up prior to its release anyway?

>>1935355
lowlight looked at how successful hsr is financial wise despite being boring as fuck he thought "hey maybe if we use the same strategy it could work"
the rest is history

>>1935355
Hypergryph's hubris, thinking they have crafted the perfect game called Endfield

>>1935356
more like they were stuck in development hell and lost their passion

>>1935355
Sci fi is always full of hype, and it always results in disappointment, because modern sci fi devs are generally the bottom of the barrel, but the devs being chinks makes things even worse

>>1935359
the insanest thing is lowlight himself is fully aware his gameplay is niche yet still insists on capturing bigger market

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APbros... I don't fell so good.

>>1935251
>That country at the bottom doesn't exist before Vtuber(holo) btw
ftfy

>>1935364
I remembered AKE took the 1st place here
And look at their current state now

>>1935360
scifi is only good in literature form. it is hot garbage everywhere else. but a neckbeard gaymer wouldn't know that

>>1935116
>AP ends up doing better than endfield
>It's a guarantee, at least in Japan.
Why tho? Did you even realize palworld and gbf relink aren't that big in JP? Those games are only huge in the US and CN, which is like 60-70% of their entire player count combined (if you believe steam charts).
But since AP has lolis, that's already going to gatekeep the US audience, so it's just going to be CN supporting the game and even then the hype in CN isn't even great >>1935364. It's worse than nte or Ananta if you trust taptap pre-reg count.

>>1935366
Let's be real EF is still going to pull in at least >50mil (mobile only) for the current patch if they can keep the player retention up for the rest of the honeymoon phase. sure it's not going to make mihomo games money but >50mil is still a fucking boatload of cash for a launch.

>>1935369
You forget the large amounts of paypal refunds they had to do

>>1935369
>honeymoon phase
there is no honeymoon phase. You can barely guarantee the launch banner unit if you 100% the 1.0 content. Millions of people will lose close to 100 rolls after her banner ends and will quit.

>>1935369
They're not getting that much. It didn't even reach rank 1 in JP appstore.

Endfield won
Stella Sora won

>>1935381
unironically I wonder if yostar is worried with how bad Stella sora is doing

>>1935384
Considering that they keep pumping out hags, I don't think they're worried at all
It's a PNG game, barely any upkeep, they're swimming in money

>>1935386
Gachas are notoriously expensive, that's just wishful thinking of yours

wuwon btw the way

>>1935388
the worst community award?
the laughing stock of hoyoverse award?

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>

>>1935392
he's not wrong

>>1935368
>Why tho?
Moe and cute creatures.
>But-
Irrelevant. Even their comiket booth is full. And this is before marketing power from Yostar.
The only way for AP to flop in Japan is if they have shit optimization.

>>1935392
Kek midwit really do love ak just like back in the day when ak released
In reality everyone copying Kyostin guide.

Everyone loses and Stella Sora wins If your favorite gacha is garbage from this list, your money ends funding my game

>blue archive
>azur lane
>arktroons
>eosfield

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>>1935386
they have a few coming(like 4 lol) but we’ll have to wait and see how the revenue does when one of them drops.
I don’t know what they were thinking with that mc design only to stick to hags

>>1935398
arknight is still more relevant than wuwa btw

>>1935356
Listen, I hate HSR's pretendious writting but Mihoyo writters know how to write interesting lore and exposition to get players interested from the first minutes. Meanwhile Endfield's first 20 hours are absolute shitshow. Endmin is so comically shilled, xhe is basically a god who is walking among mortals, a Rover pro-max. It's so retarded that almost looks like a parody. And the characters that you're rolling for have the most bland personalities that you can imagine.
The factory gameplay wouldn't a be that big problem if the writting/characters were interesting like in HSR.

>>1935392
>muh purple prose story!
that comment perfectly encapsulates how i viewed arknights playerbase for the most part

>>1935392
Could someone check /arknight and /Endfield/ most common visited subreddits?

>>1935400
>second to last cutie
is that sniper rifle fishcl out yet? is she for(you)?
this is making me want to reinstall

>>1935408
She hasn't appeared yet we're waiting for chapter 7

>>1935409
around when is that chapter releasing?

>>1935411
no news yet

>>1935392
next they say
>just read for 10 more hours, it gets good later
LOL
LMAO

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endfags, what the fuck?

wuwa sounds indian

stella sora won

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Wait without Tectone whos gonna defend wuwa then?
most CC never criticize Kuro because Tectone is always there to order his army to attack them

>>1935429
what happened to Kektone?

>>1935430
the sexual assault charges he lost against his ex gfs despite having 5 lawyers against her 1. He basically stopped streaming not to take a break and enjoy life but because he's been having to deal with this hole he dug himself into cause he can't not be like his rapist father and rape women, maybe some fuckboys too

>>1935418
andre is a based nigga desu

>play most gachas
>roll the current banner girl
>she only exists in that event/chapter, the only characters that get consistent screentime are the shitty chapter 1 cast who adventure with the protagonist
>play Limbus Company
>roll the current banner girl
>there's only 12 characters so my favorite girl Heathcliff is constantly appearing in the story and getting new identities and egos
Why isn't the latter the standard?

>>1935355
to be fair, the game looked good back in the first CBT1 when the game was still its own thing

>>1935398
>Yostar can literally do whatever they want with their game because they have 5 other gachas subsidizing it
You know what, I have to respect it

>>1935445
Alts function the same way to a degree

>>1935445
alts feel cheaper and harder to sell

>>1935429
tectone hasnt been live for 6 months
wuwa has new defenders now probably

>>1935432
I don't even know him, but I love reading about others' misery, it let me cope a bit with my own briefly

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https://x.com/SnowbreakEN/status/2014593945008013484
Another Snowbreak tweet hit the mainstream audiance

>>1935461
That's not good news. Some trannies from EU might get the game censored.

>>1935461
>Checked the reposts.
>All about "I owe wuwa an apology", "If azurlane does this I'll quit", or other shit.
Kek

>>1935462
Snowbreak is already proofed from this with the toggle.
Also
>the one hit mainstream is a flatty
Funny.

>>1935463
Normalfags are literal faggots

>>1935463
performative twittards. nothing new

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>>1935461
So how does this translate to sales?

>>1935472
why do you think companies spend millions on ads?
for publicity. and it did just that

>>1935461
Snowkek will still EOS in 2 weeks though.

>>1935479
You said this two months ago.

>>1935472
99.9999% of the money is earned through PC.

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>>1935461
Do men really complain about LADS? I rather have the impression that it's the opposite: we love that LADS exists because it shows that women are just as gooners as men.

>>1935483
No. It was always projecting from women.

>>1935483
No? I've never seen some dude actually complain about it. As always they're gaslighting since I've seen more women complain about snowkek, wuwa, azurlane, etc.

>>1935483
The only complaint I've seen men do when it comes to LADS is "how can they get away with doing literal sex without getting censored by the CCP?".

>>1935483
Chinese women make a sport out of reporting coomer gacha games to the CCP. Men usually dont go into LADS circles to cry about naked twinks.
It's always women and "women".

>>1935483
it usually comes as rebuttal when the 'women' start dissing snowkeks, like, 'why come here shit on us when you play lad, go masturbate and leave us masturbating as well' or something

almost as if the target audience for snoggers and lads are the same relationship deprived uggos

>>1935396
Endfield booth was more packed than AP and people waited fucking HOURS to play the game, comiket metrics mean absolute jack shit. Even with near-perfect optimization endfield still flopped fucking hard though. Also, for the
>cute creatures
Steam charts say otherwise. It's only China and the US playing palworld, not JP.

>>1935494
Shut up sis.

>>1935494
wuwabro dropping TRVKE

>>1935392
true, genshit btfo

>>1935392
Is this true genshinbros? Are we actually illiterate?

>>1935234
>Firefly still the face of HSR
Based.
>Fate shits night collab for the best collab
Abysmal.
>>1935261
Considering Ananta, sure.

>>1935461
the censorship clouds are making it look lewder than it actually is lmao

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>>1935407
Endfield is not up yet.
>GFL first
Wack

>>1935495
Endfield flopped because it's a boring safehorny game. Too complex for genshin players, too much work for hsr players, not enough ML for wuwaplayers and too normie for ZZZ players. It's a game for no one. NTE and AP will be different.

>>1935510
>Flopped
>Probably will do better than ZZZ this months's meme chart

>>1935511
>launch banner does better than filler banner
OH MY GOD

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>>1935445
Honestly, I don't know.
It's not like every girl is gonna be your favorite.
A constant cast is simply better. Usually games end up releasing alts but that doesn't mean they appear in the story.

Good morning fellow brownskins

>>1935511
>still coping this hard
It flopped Arktroon.

>>1935506
>the censorship clouds are making it look lewder
The English voice also makes it even lewder, in CN/JP/KR she moans less than the EN version.

>>1935113
Anything below ZZZ launch month or even HSR second month numbers are flop tier

How much weight do we give memecharts here?

>>1935523
Legit if it's my game that's high.

>>1935523
Depends on the narrative.

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>might not beat HSR worst 1st phase banner
The numbers are not looking good. Reminder, they spent at least 50 million just to shill this game.

>>1935523
>game you like and play is high
real and accurate
>game you like and play is low
fake, inaccurate, most players use the pc launcher
>game you dont like is high
fake, inaccurate, mobile is 99% of their revenue
>game you dont like is low
real and accurate, nobody play the game on pcs and consoles

I'm worried the wuwa spending event is not beating zzz...

>>1935523
fake and gay

>>1935531
>gundam idol
>vs chink chong idols
mid diff

>>1935531
when did the last non archon zzz banner beat wuwa?

what's with wujeets obsession with zzz?

>>1935544
It's the only post genshin hoyogame they can occasionally beat.

>>1935545
Why not gang up on endfield instead? They copied wuwa's ML approach

>>1935548
>They copied wuwa's ML approach
There is no ML in EOSfield
For some reason you niggas are so mindbroken that if the characters aren't shitting on the MC all the time the game turns into ML in your mind

>>1935509
Link?

Why is gacha so centered around revenue competition

>>1935554
because I need a delusional outlet to vent and distract myself from my miserable life

>>1935550
>There is no ML in EOSfield
Not many have seen it because it's on the chinese region.

>>1935548
>cuckfield
>ML
?

>>1935545
>zzz bilibili followers
7.7 millions
>wuwa bilibili followers
4.8 millions
>zzz jp Twitter followers
943k
>wuwa jp Twitter followers
678k
>zzz fanart in booru
70k
>wuwa fanart in booru
36k
Where is Wuwa beating ZZZ? In Indian player numbers? A meme chart made by Indians?

So now that everyone knows of Endfield problems, will HG even do anything about them?
They keep sending in-game surveys that say they value feedback, but from what I read about them, HG seems like the type of dev that gives no fucks and will keep doing their own shit even if it is bad.

>>1935568
>HG seems like the type of dev that gives no fucks and will keep doing their own shit even if it is bad.
No devs who need money does this unless they want to EoS.

>>1935566
half of zzz followers don't play the game

Endfield is doing fine retards. It will be more popular that wuwa for sure.

>>1935576
lol
LMAO

Why can't we all just be friends

>>1935584
Shut up Rodney King

>>1935576
Trvke

>>1935568
Nope. Unlike wuwa they don't have tencent's infinity spare funds, because HG, the gayest retards of gacha space, spent it all on marketing believing extensive shilling can fix a broken game.

>>1935576
Of course is doing fine, is the first month after all, Arktranny.
Let's wait for the drop after it. It will be glorious.

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[NEWS]
Nikke is releasing a canon prostitute character, she gives this menu to every customer she meets, opinions are divided but Nikke players say this doesn't matter as long the customers are faceless NPCs, there is small pushback from the JP side but other regions seems to be fine with this.

https://x.com/NIKKE_japan/status/2015228128441029073

>>1935598
All Nikkes are whores by default are you seriously being puritan about this?

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>>1935598
My honest opinion to this garbage

>>1935598
Sir wuwa already had a prostitute character before Nikkeks so wuwon by all ways

>>1935572
Tranny games tend to do strange things before dying in dignity. But you can't win normal gacha players over when you specifically made your game femoid and tranny adjusted only for them to not spend a dime on the game. HG could try, but that would only alienate the trannies that are already playing it, and frankly look pretty pathetic, knowing they are the gay sauron of gacha space that decided to kneel the moment they realized the infamous mihoyo sales were always propped up by fanservice which HG's game completely lacks. Realistically, HG should put Endfield on maintenance mode and focus on the original title, otherwise they risk loosing both games. Straight guys aren't going to play games under their brand, angering the existing tranny core audience of their original game isn't exactly smart either. They should simply acknowledge the bitter reality that their homo company will never become big and stick to their niche where they are actually relatively successful and in demand.
Nobody wants the gayer Genshin, the original is already too gay for it's own good.

>>1935598
>AIgen whores
>make them do whore things
>nyoooooo... she's actually a pure whore
Kek

>>1935495
>It's only China and the US playing palworld, not JP.
Because JP CCs are contracted to never, ever touch Palworld if they want the privilege to play Pokemon games. It's pretty evident when lots of JP corpotumors stopped playing it even when big updates were released.

It's very funny how all the games discussed here are still gooner and made for straight men yet the brown schizos here say it's not enough unless it's a direct harem and if they never have characters stand next to each other in unofficial collabs. Truly schizos create their own prison.

>>1935618
Xis, have you ever thought why playboy and onlyfans are not trannyboy and trannyfans?
You can't build big corporation around selling granny pants and transsexuals, that's not how world works, the demand for such things is not really high.

zoocucks obsession with wuwa is nothing short of hilarious

>>1935598
>Opinions are divided
Show them, all i saw was peoples being hyped for this whore

>>1935618
Yeah the straightest man fetish >>1935598 romancing a girl that had thousand dicks inside her, retard

Sisters simply can't understand a man's needs. It's why they keep losing to anime girls.

How organic is the ZZZ vs Wuwa rivalry

>>1935461
These animations really make me want to play, but the gameplay I watched looked boring, and I always hear people saying the gameplay is bad...

>>1935640
Rivalry implies they're at the same standing.

>>1935618
Endfield is a tranny censored slop. No self respecting gooner is playing it.

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>wuwasar calling anyone a cuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V07kNcSrLew

its funny how zootranny can only post the same fan made animation while wuwer just posts in game interaction

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>two characters talk to each other
>aaaa im getting cucked
>three women and one man drinking alcohol in a closed room at night
>doesn't count saar!!! Collab not canon saar! Wuwa ml saaar
Jeets are so funny.

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>>1935661
heh

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>>1935568
The funny thing is that with the survey, they show that they know what people don't like.

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damn...

>>1935659
It's easy to tell how mindbroken xe is

>>1935662
Why do they hate the Lawson collab?

>>1935523
Zero. We got actual, real numbers for nikke from their annual reports, turns out it was earning like 30 millions less than what the memechart "estimated". Its not even good for trends or comparisons.

>>1935598
Every nikke player is already a cuck, this has been known since the first half anniversary. Of course they aren't going to mind, its like asking the BD2 players if they care if two of their characters are whores (canonically).

>>1935523
People don't know but the ultimate value of memecharts is not comparison between games, but comparison with itself.
If a game made gorillions compared to the previous month, the memechart will reflect this too.
If the game is flopping, the memechart will reflect this as well.

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>>1935673
we know

>>1935673
>all that money spent on eceleb shilling and only 30k views
damn indeed...

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>>1935646
https://youtu.be/dePWKiWeKmw?si=8iFdwzPmV7n-sLTU
https://youtu.be/6g-vSflOz7Y?si=u4BfWc5Tca80EyOB
kek thanks for the ammo
aren't they cute?

>he's letting his cuck fantasy run wild again

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>>1935712
they're just friends

>>1935710
>>1935719
I don't care, rape it is

>he's still imagining getting cucked at this very moment
This is why everyone laugh at wuwajeets

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>>1935710
Nothing happened between them

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>>1935723
weirdly hoyokek-shaped wuwaje*ts

non-mc straight shipping is important, which is why even wuwa is starting to do it.

>wuwasar STILL can't stop imagining themselves getting cucked

>>1935725
>>1935734
true! i don't know where these cuckschizos got the idea!
https://youtu.be/5i74jAG-Jvk?si=awglk91DLLnSg06A
https://youtu.be/VtVJvn_G1GY?si=ABzummbKOHBPnULO
https://youtu.be/rIdhuvgCMlQ?si=qceZdeTcoGgztp1f
https://youtu.be/KIrzy2M4XCU?si=L_KV-W-4SsoQ2mXT
https://youtu.be/J6O6KVADkYE?si=EcBOI-Rn1Jhr8ia7
https://youtu.be/gT4cN-Y8FOE?si=5KyYdh-jvIDVJ-S5

>>1935735
>he's actually searching janeseth just to imagine himself getting cucked
That's sad but even then, what's your point? shippers are gonna ship just because two characters are standing next to each other. At least I don't see those videos sponsored by hoyoverse like >>1935645

>>1935738
Never played zzz but all i know as a tourist that whores is not for (you) or just shippers ruined the whole first impression, so yeah it kinda does matter.

why cant we have a whore character that fall in love with you and she never have sex with anyone ever again?

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>>1935735
All normalfags need to be hanged like holy this just spiked my cortisol.

>>1935745
genshin can do it with alice but she does not give me whore vies

>>1935747
sorry i'll stop
had my fun

>>1935745
Women only do that when they start fearing the wall.

>>1935742
>just shippers ruined the whole first impression
Columbinabros.......

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>>1935738
Anon..

True waifuchads don't play hoyoslop.

>>1935758
Keep sucking normalfag dicks and keep normalizing this shit so devs can pander more to them you pathetic cocksucker.
Also i dont even play wuwa because its horrible waifuge and doesnt even qualify as one its as bad as mihomoslop i cba with you retards projecting some kind of boogeyman in other people.

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>>1935735
This guy is a Janefag
There's no other explanation.

>>1935527
Wait, Surtr failed to beat Constance on day 1?

>>1935755
Let's not blame that one on the shippers
Mihomo went all out to the point that the few selfinserters that are left in Genshit want nothing to do with Columbina

If ML is so important how come all successful gachas have male characters.?

>>1935778
Your Uma and Nikke bro?

>>1935778
>goys eat up literal shit made for pigs
I wonder

>>1935778
>all successful gachas have male characters.
Maybe 1-2 5* males a year.

>>1935778
Those male characters flop 90% of the time. Those games would have been more successful with an all female cast.

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while you're fighting, femcel devs are having a good time fucking up your hobby, let that sink in...

>>1935785
Anime gambling isn't a hobby. You play gachashit despite its monetization not for it. Also Hoyoslop isnt worth caring.

>>1935778
the suits are only starting to realize

>>1935785
These femcels have my blessings to fuck Mihomo as hard as they can
If they somehow manage to bankrupt them I'll fucking kneel

>>1935785
Zzz fem devs are based though?

>>1935778
the suits are not starting to realize

>>1935794
Suits dont care MLshit. They only care about which popular IP to copy. For the last few years it was Genshit, now for some it's trying to be a "trendsetter" by being anime (chink) gacha GTA. Like Ananta and NTE.

>>1935782
And without femc.

>>1935797
If they are still falling for fake femcel data then they deserve to flop..

>muh femmc
>muh males
You MLcucks are really delusional.

Males don't sell, sis. They only keep away actual paying customers.

>>1935790
Suits do care MLshit. They only care about which popular IP to copy. For the last few years it was Genshit, now for some it's trying to be a "trendsetter" by being anime (chink) gacha GTA. Like Ananta and NTE.

Bishes are only half-male.

>>1935782
Male banners flop because female banners exist, once you have all female banners more female banners in average start flopping even in their respective female only games.

>>1935807
You will only get 1-2 male 5*s a year and you will be happy

>>1935808
the real reason gacha companies still include male characters, despite the much higher female-to-male ratio is "engagement". many male players especially the spenders aren’t very active on social media, even if they are they usually just like a post or art and move on. meanwhile, fans of male characters tend to be louder and more active.
tldr free advertisement

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>>1935778
Because one day, we will wake up from our dream and find ourselves a life partner

wu?won.

>>1935816
What about fanart?

>>1935816
>meanwhile, fans of male characters tend to be louder and more active.
That's only in the west.

>>1935451
apparrently cbt1 gameplay was badly balanced since you basicly deal 0 dps when your skills are on cd and the cds felt abit long, but instead of balancing it so closest thing to xenoblade by chinks finally exists you get this snorefest
sold my acc for quick 35$ and 2 days later the guy who bought it quitted and complained how boring the game is

>wuwon
Good Morning Saars

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isnt this game generous cause if you lose 50/50 to any of the upcoming banner then you can just skip them?

>>1935826
50/50 by design is not generous

>paypal issues fixed
>believers found out it gets really good later on
>factory videos keep popping in
>thousands of people sharing blueprints
>CCs and potential whales flocking in
the boycott failed, we lost.

>>1935832
>boycott
I didnt even give a fuck about that censored Genshin clone.

>>1935832
wuwa bros.../saintGODtas bros...
it's over

>>1935841
>chat got bored while he fought a weekly boss
>"okay guys that took like 30 minutes, let raid someone else"

>>1935102
I think I'm starting to understand the factory, and I have concluded that people will break the game's system very easily.
Like having unlimited resources forever, or probably ch*nks already did it.

>>1935832
There were no boycott. It's simply censored boring non-game with shitty combat, story, and designs. It naturally repels all people that swipe and attracts only foids and trannies who play every game where homos are present but never swipe.

>>1935845
They learned from wuwa shitty launch and launched with 3 female banners. They don't want the tranny audience.

>>1935845
>It's simply censored boring non-game with shitty combat, story, and designs
Yet everyone won't stop talking about it, the reverse psychology works

>>1935847
>Wuwa has to deal with the tranny audience forever because of all of the Jiyan shilling they did.
Kek

>>1935509
I never saw western countries subreddit on any of these gacha subreddit

It’s hard to have a nuanced discussion about this topic because it’s very black and white how the internet/fandom has made the discussion. First and foremost, I am a guy who loves ML content, and you can just check my Reddit history if you want proof. I am a connoisseur of this, so I want you to know I am not arguing out of a hateful position or anything when I say I have issues with Wuwa’s ML.

The main problem in my eyes is that it’s too spread out, and no one character feels special enough. Zzz is another gacha with tons of ml content, but it harder for me because the devs space out the hard hitter ML characters like YSG, Yidhari, Vivian, Miyabi etc out well. It makes every character who is designed with the ML in mind usually hit a lot harder and resonate better. It also allows the devs to focus resources and time on these singular characters, making them pop out and stick.

In comparison with wuwa, it feels like every character is a wife who shows up for one patch and then they move on to the next wife. My problem is that no single character feels REALLY special, and it makes each of them leaving after their patch feel worse. Couple this Wuwa’s allergic reactions to continuing character stories past their banner patch (cough Chisa) and it creates ML that feels like it could/should be more. Believe me, they are capable of writing good romance and there’s tons of potential with characters like cartethyia, Carlotta, phrolova, Iuno, Mornye, shorekeeper etc., but their lack of focus and time in the spotlight hurts the power of these ships. I’m not saying Wuwa can’t fix this going forward, but I think these are the things the devs will need to tackle if they want to make ships that stick more long term.

>>1935857
@grok summarize this to 2 sentences or less

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>>1935857
RedditGOD i kneel

>>1935857
Why did you feel the need to copypaste this post from reddit?

Many choose to ignore it, but there are faggots who think male units sell or deserve to be popular. These sons of bitches are the cancer of gacha games they're worse than mlfags, yurifags, and furryfags combined

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>>1935890
Dokkanchads will pretend they didn't read your shitstained mongoloid bable.

>>1935898
>Thinking DBZ of all things apply

>>1935822
Japan likes them too and they're not schizo like you. FGO ran just fine for ten years and it didn't;t become insane until the Chinese introduced their brand of schizo to third worlders.

>>1935902
They aren't as loud and retarded as their western counter parts.

>>1935902
>FGO
>they're not schizo like you
I remember that the yumes got uppity when Arthur wasn't for (you) and when they shipped off Constantine with Johanna after TM made their money from his white day banner.

Always funny seeing troons thinking they are normal and calling everyone else schizo.

>>1935816
Shoving in males everywhere didn't save gumi or Aster.

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>new lows
what killed stella sora?

>>1935903
companies treat them as walking billboards. even if the male characters flop, they provide free labor for advertising the game. the problem starts when that crowd gets too loud and begins driving away spenders. at that point, companies pivot back to releasing more female characters, not for balance but to reduce risk in MIXED TOILET GAMES. losing spenders costs far more than whatever engagement those billboards bring

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>>1935845
>censored
First gacha? The starter cast is always the most covered up because they need to sell future limiteds, but if they didnt care about fan service last rite wouldnt exist and they wouldnt have hyper realistic wet effects

>>1935921
Why not do what Aigis does and keep the males as low rank units?

>>1935921
>companies treat them as walking billboards
Is there any truth to this like an official statement from one of these companies
>they provide free labor for advertising the game
I think fanartist do a way better job at this then a bunch of folds kyaaing at the male characters even if there are some intersection of the two. If males are the main spenders then why do we need the engagement of women who are more likely to post about ships and other bullshit men don't care about.

>>1935920
CZN won in the end. That's all there is to it.

>>1935920
Best girl is the MC.

>>1935898
Faggot, we're talking about a male series like DBZ. When I refer to male units, I mean homo pandering. They're two different things

>>1935926
>homos and furries won
a grim day for gacha

>>1935922
Endfield is censoredslop, deal with it.

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owari da..

>>1935925
the engagement here is their interaction, inviting friends and of course creating fan art. when we talk about mixed toilet spenders, we’re talking about those jp wageslaves. you need those loud voices to reach their timelines and they’ll spend regardless of whether the character is male or female characters

the problem is that the westard billboards think these spenders are on their side. they think that by screaming louder, they can force companies to kneel to them.

weird Japan fact: jp cosplayer for Zayne from LADS draws HSR girls in his free time.

>>1935938
He's right

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>>1935938
>people who stick with it got rewarded tremendously
>people who hate it got filtered and promoting the game for free
>playerbase keeps growing as the game is actually good and encourages discussion
>being GaaS means it can only get better from now on
do nothing
win.

>>1935961
It's the honeymoon period. The numbers will only get lower.

>>1935961
>got rewarded tremendously
Yeah...

Interesting how people say that male whiners make fanart when most of the art I see is the girls getting lewded.

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>>1935963
>he didn't get +$5000 worth of gibs from paypal bug

>>1935963
Yeah...
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nvzuBZEyM/

>>1935961
i doubted the first day but after the 20 hours the game got good, ppl will give the game more chances than wuwa and zzz because of the mega optimization of running the game, the next filter is if the users can stomach factorio and lastly is character gacha. Everything else is f2p friendly and seems really solid for the game. The game has a future because they can just reuse arknights cast to bring in and the game already has the best presentation/animations for their models which was their large selling point to the normies. Already having genshin's mondstat+liyue content length gives people more reason and time to play the game for longer than usual.

>>1935920
nothing. gachashit simply became inflated and nothing is culturally relevant anymore past 2025

>>1935920
Just kill it this is embarassing

>>1935920
Japs don't like hags

>>1935816
>tldr free advertisement
That would be one of the few instances of negative advertisement. If I see a gacha being advertised as having too many men, or shilled men, then that's a total turn off
And so, it's not about advertisement, it's to try and capture the hole audience's money, but it's ultimately a futile attempt unless you go full on LaDS

Crazy how no one seems to care about AKE’s story being ass lol. I thought Hypergryph was known for good storytelling? I’m 25+ hours in and it’s still a snoozefest. When does this shit get good, bruh?

>>1936000
Any engagement, including from the annoying yuritards is still engagement. It actually gives the game more exposure because people will talk shit to each other a lot

>>1936009
>no one seems to care
Check arknights thread

>>1935920
yuri doesn't sell