I can't wait until I'm almost 40 and the nostalgia of my teen years is the only happiness I have left.

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>>58845440
True. Now wait as I buy my 37th $40 Pikachu doll to put on my bed.

>>58845456
instead of making quality plushes of every other fucking pokemon they rehash eevee and pikachu for the millionth time. isnt one pikachu enough?

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>>58845515
They've been gradually spreading out the merch to other Pokemon, but it's clear the same few are what people will buy.

>>58845523
that's also japan only
you will take your fucked up sitting cuties and like them

>>58845552
Don't mind if I do

>>58845440
>seel
>dewgong
lmao

>>58845515
Why waste the resources making a Seaking? Nobody's buying it

>>58845440
>Pincer

>>58845440
Based

>>58845515
no

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Fixed.

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>>58845515
>>58846861
>>58848149
Retards

>>58848196
Based

>>58845515
nobody want a plush of zebstrika anon

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>>58849025
wrong

>>58848185
>no sandslash
>no persian
NGMI

>>58848185
What criteria are you even using?

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>>58845456

>>58849083
Also based

>>58849704
Vibes.

>>58849704
It came to me in a dream

>>58849704
Short for vibrators

>>58849704
>>58851744
more like came to me in a wet dream

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>>58845440
I will never understand Genwunners. They claim that the “original 151” are the best, and anytime you ask them what their dream Pokemon game is, they’ll just say, “Bring back the 151 and ignore the rest!”. What exactly makes Kanto Pokemon so special that Genwunners and TPC/GameFreak constantly feel the need to glaze them? No, seriously. I don’t get the appeal. Gardevoir alone is more interesting than the majority of Kanto Pokemon.

>>58853539
>What exactly makes Kanto Pokemon so special that Genwunners and TPC/GameFreak constantly feel the need to glaze them?
Them being the "classics", the "originals", game freak just loves to remind us of their roots and of the first 100 monsters they designed
as for genwunners, they don't exist. Never have. They literally haven't played the games since 1999. Those boomers just came back to complain about newer pokemon when they saw gen 5 and still somehow earned their title even after they shit on it and left. They don't care.
>“Bring back the 151 and ignore the rest!”
as i said above, they dont care, so they definitely dont say that

>Gardevoir
That's all I needed to know

>>58853539
>Gardevoir alone is more interesting than the majority of Kanto Pokemon.
in other words, you're an anthro-fetishist moron.

lol so the wet dream was right >>58853527

>>58845440
Always based

>>58845456
Also based

>>58857188
Ew

>>58845440
>OP claims to be Gen1-only
>posts artwork from LeafGreen/FireRed (Gen3 games)
Yeah, you're not gonna make it...

>>58845440
This thread has been averaging 10 posts a day.

You'd have pulled way more posting this to /vr/.

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>>58857196
Actually my fault OG let me fix that

>>58857370
Based enough

>>58845515
of course not

>>58853539
genwunners are just tourists who've not played anything past the original GBC games but want to complain about the newer gens. They're halfwits who either can't let go of nostalgia or they're unable to accept they're not the target audience anymore.

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>>58845440
this but this

>>58845440
The growing puddle of tears and piss just reminds me of how based and true this is

>>58845440
good

>>58845515
NEVER

>>58845515
And that's a based thing

>>58845440
I came here just to laugh at the plebs who werent here for the golden era.

>>58853539
Every game and mon made after genwun was made with the knowledge it would print money, and with the goal of whoring out as much as possible for more money since it was guaranteed revenue.

Gen 1 was the only time Pokémon was ever unknown (Unown notwithstanding), and therefore was made with a vision rather than a profit target. They had no idea if Red/Blue/Green would sell or just be forgotten like so many games of that era. Good, bad or indifferent (because they were not perfect, no one is arguing that you strawmanning retard fucks), RBG were honest in a way that later Pokémon corpo-mules simply can never be.

They won the world, and were chained from that point on.

>>58863345
that's... actually not a bad thought

>>58853539
(You) will never know the sense of adventure before the internet made all knowledge instantly available. When you had to grab a game guide off the wire rack at Walmart in the game aisle for 30 seconds and blitz it while your mom was buying whatever cause you couldn't buy it. And then trying to cross reference your memories of the various routes with the memories of the game guide alongside the rumors you heard in school about Pikablu and Mew and shit.

Felt like you actually had to work to discover the world. Like you had to go find your own NPCs to give you hints and shit, and puzzle out who was right and who was lying or dumb. There was a vibe that went beyond the game itself because it was such a cultural phenomenon, something shared with kids you didnt know. And we made friends with kids we wouldn't normally talk to, or kids made friends who normally wouldn't have any at all.

Now its just a game, just a job, just the latest repeat in a long, long series.

>>58845440
The fact that the pokemon aren't in the proper order is really bugging me.

>>58863353
Yeah its a shame. You can't tell people to never make money, they got to eat. Putting people through ridiculous purity tests of who is a real artist or not is cruel and insane. And pointless. I don't want the people making Pokémon to go hungry or whatever.

But there *is* a tonal difference even so. It's a subtle change of mindset that only becomes apparent over the long arc of a successful series. We have more variety of Pokémon than ever before, but they each mean less than ever before.

It doesn't help of course that Pokémon as a brand has become one of the most sterilized ones out there in order to hit max broad appeal. They reeeeeeally went to the extremes in that regard as a business decision. Personally I think theyre just terrified of making a single actual decision with soul, lest their shareholders and advertisers hang them in the public square.

>>58863345
>>58863353
that's... actually a based thought

>>58845552
will do thanks

So why doesn't Mario have this problem?

>>58865730
What problem? autism? hahahaha oh you naive child.

>>58865734
I meant sequelitis but sure that too

>>58866169
For one thing they're not trying to invent 100 plus new characters every game. Mario has tons of forms and costumes but at the end of the day hes still Mario, he isnt getting lost in the crowd like some Pokémon do. Even if the new hat or suit or whatever is childish and stupid, the team working on Mario always takes the time to plan it out, rather than shit out 300 more Pokémon because theyre on a quota.

They iterate on what they already have, rather than bloat it to hell and back basically.

>>58866169
Also the Mario games can be very different even when they're platformers. Platforming is dynamic, the layout changing or the scenery style can completely refresh the levels. Pokémon doesnt have physics, so it lacks that tool to use when keeping games from feeling samey. By and large a gym crawl is a gym crawl. Maybe a gimmick here or there, but still a gym crawl.

How different really was Red to Platinum, in a structural level? How much did 3d walking later actually give us by letting us go to the same places but not using a grid? It's a change yes but did they really do all that much with it?

Compare that with the platforming changes between OG super mario, to super mario sunshine with the water physics as a middle-mario game, to that one where Bowzer got dunked in the Exxon Valdez and mario turned into a giant cat to go beat his ass. All still platforming in many ways, but texturally and mechanics wise very different.

Mario is old but keeps innovating, because they KNOW hes old and they have to try and keep him relevant.

Pokemon, and by that I mostly mean the suits that run it, is utterly afraid of really shaking their historically successful formula.

>>58865730
>>58866295
>>58866316
That and imagine if Super Mario 2 was the same shit except starring some new kid or maybe Geno or something. And ends with stomping all over Mario as a fuck you to anyone who enjoyed the first game.

this thread smells of a retirement home

Now it smells like curry because of that post^

>>58866985
You talking about the Red fight in Gold/Silver?

>>58863337
Holy based

>>58845515
a good rule of thumb when asking if something is enough...
there's no such thing as enough

>>58845552
Yeah I'll take yours and like them too

>>58863358
>And we made friends with kids we wouldn't normally talk to, or kids made friends who normally wouldn't have any at all.
And you are still friends with at least one of them?

>>58870061
Facebook friends

>>58848196
These are quite nice. I'm not a plush person but someone gave me that mankey from this set as a gift and I like it. Seems designed to perch on shelves rather than be on a flat surface.

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I created this thread as a one off joke why is it still alive

>>58853809
>as for genwunners, they don't exist. Never have.
they existed back in 2010

>>58872082
it's funny because it's true

>>58866295
They definitely didn't need to add so many. Just a few per game for them to actually put effort into. And really fix what they already have.

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>>58845440
I've made some improvements for your consideration.

>>58873376
Not sure if based
also, no sylveon? umbreon is basically going to be the only dark type so may as well add sylveon too
unless we're not counting the type changes of some of the other pokemon

>>58873488
this is probably pre 6 focused now that i think about it. thats cool tho, i prefer normal type clefable

>>58866985
>That and imagine if Super Mario 2 was the same shit
this fool doesn't know about the lost levels

Wow it must've been about a new character stomping all over Mario to make the new shit look cool... oh wait.

>>58873376
Almost based

>>58845515
hell no

>>58873493
Probably because of this >>58047854

>>58845552
I'm ok with this

>>58845552
Samefag reply

>>58845552
k me too

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>>58845440
OP here, posted the wrong image here's what I meant to post

>>58878824
Cringe
Gen5 was a mistake

>>58878824
cool thanks op

>>58878824
meh, but I guess gen5 can be ok enough if the marketing department keeps crying about it

>>58845440
See, that's based

>>58879775
Anything a shill cries about is good automatically, even if not as good as genwun

>>58873493
Based

>>58845515
kek seethe more coomer
your waifushit will never be as popular as pikachu

>>58845515
Why would it be enough?

>>58845523
based people then
the customer is always right

>>58859797
>2 pseudos
>2 mythical
>8 legendaries (2 trios)
This is where it started getting downhill with all the unnecessary power inflation. Should have kept to just 1 pseudo 1 mythical 1 trio legendary and 1 trio boxart legendary.

>>58883879
Kinda based

>>58848196
nice

>>58845456
This but unironically

>>58873376
Where are Annihilape, Kleavor, Sylveon?

>>58886347
shame too
would've brought the total to exactly 185

>>58886347
Here >>58047854

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>>58845515
>people complain that Charizard and Pikachu are artificially popular
>people for the majority only want Kanto merchandise
Are zoomers wrong about Charizard and Kanto? Do people actually like gen 1 the most?

>>58888076
They like Charizard, Pikachu, and the Eeveelutions. I think less people care about the region itself.

>>58888076
Charizard's popularity just pisses me off and so do genwunners

wtf I love Charizard now

>>58848196
Super based

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>>58873376
Fixed

>>58845440
It's the same one

>>58873376
>>58886347
Does anyone have a graphic of national dex but with all the cross-gen evolutions next to their relatives like this? Or at the very least one for each region.

>>58848185
Heresy. Leave Pincer aloon!

>>58863345
I mostly agree, but I will die on a Gen II hill. Gen II was still a passion project in my book.
Franchise-wise I respect the design of around 220 pokemon, 210 of which are Gen I or II. The rest is just too shit to be taken seriously.

>>58878824
The epitome of unimaginative. A creative void indistinguishable from poorly prompted AI generation.

>>58888076
Tyranitar is my spirit animal. If I ever wanted a pokemon plushie, it would have been Larvitar.

>>58890040
How

>>58890601
Underappreciated, underutilised, painted as a villain because of the crowd he's in, effective against normies, and everyone around me takes damage over time because I'm durable and other people bruise easily.

>>58890670
lol

>>58883879
Hoenn dex is the most balanced ever made.

>>58889972
this

>>58891887
That’s because it was made to succeed not flop like whatever the fuck they were going in kanto’s backyard shithole

Yeah they had Shadow Ball back then right fellow genwunners

>>58890670
very cool anon
*low kicks you*

>>58848196
Hyper based

>>58853539
>Gardevoir alone is more interesting than the majority of Kanto Pokemon.
>Picks that image to go with the post
Cringe. You are the type of fan that has perverted what the series was originally about. Waifumons are unironically garbage and pollute the series.
The lets go games were pure kino for many reasons, but only having the original 151 was based.
I'd love a new generation game with only the original pokemon in a new setting. Shit like Gholdingo is garbage and immersion breaking.
>>58859212
They are the audience, considering Kanto is pandered to continuously
>>58870061
What a stupid argument. I was at one of my best friends weddings and the groomsman were from my grade. Hadnt seen each other in years but we were still brought up Pokemon briefly. Its about the connections you made.
>>58888108
So jealous

>>58845440
Y'know except for all the shitmons like rattata and Grimer

>>58845453
Then you are a sad, pathetic man who needs to go touch grass.

>>58853539
Nothing. Most of them are ugly and/or useless shitmons that faggots only want because MUH NOSTALGIA. This is why nostalgia is a cancer upon the world. It holds us back.

>>58863358
My brother in christ we had official strategy guides. I didn't have to blitz shit, fucking the nintendo power strategy guide for Pokemon RB helped me learn how to read.
>Rumors
Fake and gay bullshit
>Felt like you actually had to work to discover the world.
There wasn't anything to actually discover in gen 1. It was as straightforward as it gets.

And honestly, ignoring all of your pointless senile rambling, the games hold up like spoiled milk in texas in the middle of summer, that is to say, not at all.

Yeah remember all those omega comprehensive and complete strategy guides that said Shadow Ball is available in RBY right fellow genwunners

>>58873376
>>58886347
>>58886949
but there was this band named Blink-182

>>58895363
But this move named Shadow Ball wasn't in RBY

>>58845440
CHADKINGBEASTrizard and 150 literal whos.

>>58895690
But 'Zard doesn't have Shadow Ball at all, especially not in RBY

>>58890023
Relatively based I guess