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Gossypium Edition
>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?
Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcgl
The game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.
>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?
You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guide
There's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6
After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.
>Where to find meta decks?
For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decks
For online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCG
For japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417
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>needs both Arven and TM Evo to play this fat fuck effectively
>both Arven and TM Evo rotates out in april
I'm so fucking scared
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>>58864137
you gotta rebuy your deck every time you play it so your cards aren't marked
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>>58864202
They already have. Every mega worth a shit oneshot each other.>>58864202
They already have. Every mega worth a shit oneshot each other.
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>against slowking/kyurem
>playing crayon eater
>anytime he can't attack with slowking he instead uses budew while his 1 energy slowpoke sits on the bench because that's all pokemon players can do nowadays is click itchy pollen and hope they win
>boss' orders his slowpoke every time until he loses
play like a nigger lose like one
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https://youtu.be/WafRfVx5ZxM?si=juTfhTtZ_dF5OHBJ
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>>58864846
>3 brock
The Nip bastards are using cards that aren't locked by budew. It's not fair.
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>>58864927
+20 brings your damage to 400 (100+50+30+20)x2
Also a modifier that KOs munkidori with vitality band rotating.
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Newfag back again. Made it to Arceus rank on live, the advice definitely helped with ratios so thanks. Big problem I'm having now is nothing to do with the game itself I suppose and I genuinely don't mean to be disparaging but, how come the pokemon tcg has almost no community? This is meant to be the most popular card game ever but I can't find anything beyond a tiny splinter subreddit and these threads that don't even hit bump limit. I feel like Tommy in goodfellas walking in to a room expecting a party but it's empty and he gets shot in the head. For all of yugiohs MANY faults, you were never starved of fun stuff to watch or places to talk about theorycrafting and banlists. There's five different yugioh threads on multiple boards that consistently hit bump limit daily. Do you guys just not talk about the game? Do you just net deck and go to locals? Where's your progression series, your 10 minute testings, your archetype archive? Your world champions on their own channels making detailed guides for a new format? Again, I'm not trying to compare the games themselves, I have every intention of picking up paper come rotation but until then, where's the "extra-curricular" stuff that makes the game worth playing?
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>>58865086
pokemon still has the stigma of being a kid franchise and the tcg is more recognized for being collectors instead of gameplay on top of that
people will say it's because the online client is bad but even in the old client there was hardly an online scene for the game. it's just somehow not popular online despite having bigger playerbase numbers than other tcg
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>>58865086
>Do you guys just not talk about the game?
>where's the "extra-curricular" stuff that makes the game worth playing?
We don't need dickhead youtubers telling us things we already know. We don't have people going "Omg guys this random card from Labyrinth of Nightmare that came out in 2003 is actually good today!" because our meta gets solved within the first couple of weeks of a new set. There are a few big channels that do meta updates before a regional, but there's no need to constantly rehash things. Cards do what they do and you can tell if they're good or not just by reading them.
We just play the game instead of talking about it. If you don't find it worthwhile, don't do it.
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I won't pretend to know why the community for this game is less active, but I also don't care about the community so it's not a problem for me. I will say a large part of it is having a proper rotation. Take Magic for example, it has a rotation like we do, but after a while just like our game there's not really a lot to talk about for standard, but they also have EDH and 2 legacy formats that are popular, so there's always ways to talk about the game with your constant stream of cards. Yugioh doesn't have a rotation, so you have 20+ years of cards you can throw with whatever new FOTM they're shilling to make "content" on top of yugioh having more deckbuilding malleability from that and the option to be between 40 and 60 cards, whereas we can't enter with anything more or less than 60 on top of our deck space being less free for a lot of decks because of how obligatory a lot of cards are to be able to play. Compared to yugioh, which has a large part of the deck also taken up by staples their decks are less affected because cards often have multiple effects which saves a LOT of deckspace when your deck ends up just tutoring itself off of 1 or 2 cards going through. There are other issues on top, but the crux of it is that there's really nothing to talk about at this point, especially when everyone is kind of waiting on rotation. As far as content creators go, everyone just makes the same content. Set/leaks/promo reviews, decks that look good when formats rotate, good decks after, then rogue stuff until tournaments happen and people go over the tournaments and try decks that showed up. 10 minute testing is cute I guess if you need to make a video every friday for a paycheck, but any PTCG content creator trying rogue stuff is going to give you 30+ minutes of gameplay instead of playing a retarded bo3 in the most volatile card game on the market so someone like that ugly jew MBT has no value here.
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Other tcg content creators also do rogue stuff. There's really not any engagement if you're playing metashit the entire time. You can just play the game yourself and experience that instead
but like everyone saying, the meta is solved incredibly quickly. usually while it's still in JP so we already have a solved meta day1. because we lack rotations of older sets coming back (since they refuse to print expanded cards) we don't have the window of hype where it's a completely brand new meta with new+old cards interacting with each other. even fan made modes like >glc are a solved format, every deck is the same gimmick because the meta has been found.
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>>58865764
Not me.
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>>58865828
>Ace Spec
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>>58862987
>First meta post-rotation
Uhhhh megacharizardbros wtf is this???? IT WAS OUR TURN
We were fucking robbed.... and by waterchuds no less. FUCKKKKK
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>>58865955
It's Marnie's grimmsnarl without Marnie's grimmsnarl
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>>58866053
>munkidori and 57 other cards
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Anyone ever made a deck based around putting balls back into your hand no homo
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>>58866480
Sure, just get 8 balls in your hand and you can KO adp.
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>https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/22093/letter-to-the-co mmunity-january-22-2026
>First, start with the powerful Mega Dragonite ex deck already in hand, whose powerful "Ryuno Glide" attack will do enough damage to Knock Out almost all Pokémon in a single hit.
Did they forget about HPcreep?
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>>58866713
How come that didn't make it to the tier list in rotation?
I get why manectric isn't there because all the fighting decks. Is all the dragapult and ghosts killing your tynamo too much?
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You have to keep in mind a pokemon like Pult is a 1 energy attacker, but yea I don't get it for the same reason why I don't get why ZardNoir isn't a thing. In reality, ZardNoir should be able to 1 shot any deck. The problem with ZardNoir I think is that Starmie is going to destroy it.
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Complain about Budew all you want, but this card was a mistake.
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>no deck plays it
>it's a tool card so no collector wants it
>it's $12
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>>58869249
>no deck plays it
Fool...
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Some versions of N's Zoroark, Charizard and Team Rocket run it. Also rogue decks like venusaur seem to be drawn to it. Hell even the new starmie deck likes it. I believe it is all just speculation, wish they reprinted ace specs.
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>>58869569
Except you also run it on a froslass shell so it ends up being a grimmsnarl but stage 1 and attack only costs 1 energy. Also with water energy you have access to mega froslass which is stupidly powerful.
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>>58869573
Starmie fears the wolf
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>>58868114
well?
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>Mfw last match of local league challenge
>Opp flips Riolu
>He lets out a loud sigh the moment I search for a frilish
Fuck man this is why nothing beats physical play
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>>58870472
Probably wasn't his first sigh.
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>>58869730
ill let you know like friday
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That's a total prediction list before there was any data.
And a really weird prediction at that.
How could Alakazam possibly ever be above B tier? When Munkidori, Dragapult, Dusknoir and Froslass still exist. Losing Iono doesn't matter, all decks will play Judge.
The very same tier list even has two Rocket's Mewtwo for auto loss.
Alakazam completely dies after rotation. Gholdengo was the only thing giving it any relevance.
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>the dream is to play a deck featuring a Pokemon I actually like as the focus
>the best decks are always just shillmon or legendaries
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Thoughts on my list?
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>>58873301
Explain what you think this does to Gholdengo.
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Sorry I used the image generator and forgot to put the right variants because I was removing the full arts (didn't remove all of them)
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>>58873288
all these 1x supporters and tools when theres not even a way to dig or search for them other than your 1x town store. just a top deck and a dream. I think you should probably fit in a research or two just so you have another way to draw more cards in the early turns to set up other than just your lillie or iono. like eri or larry could be a petrel for box or a pokegear.
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>>58873288
I kind of like the cheeky Eri and I admire the attempt to try and make Larry's Skill work. Would probably be better if you replaced Larry with Arven or something to make early TM Evo plays more consistently and finding your Secret Box as well. Maybe think about Black Belt's Training instead of Kieran to get more damage and getting a Switch or Turo for retreat lock.
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So I should remove Larry and maybe add 1-2 petrel or 1-2 Arven? I really like Kieran just in case I do draw it and need it in some way because the extra damage is very helpful to 1 shot megas
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But the thing about it is that Larry is also useful to get stage 1s or stage 2, more than once I've been able to clutch early with it, if I get secret box I won't have anything to search for stage 1 until poke pad is playable
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>>58874379
nice congrats
>>58874420
arven is the better pick between the two
>>58874423
in the case of garchomp, cynthia's gabite and hilda can find all your evos and an energy without dumping your entire hand.
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>>58874682
Zam will still be playing hammers for mist energy, which it has plenty of time to find because lucario's first attack is a 2hko against alakazam if they don't double ppp / gust / attach 2 energy each time.
The biggest auto-loss for Zam is rocket's mewtwo.
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Alakazam places damage counters. It can't hit lucario for weakness unless you're using a different zam
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It's gotta be. JPs just like playing new cards which is why stuff like starmie and honchkrow are so high right now. They don't metafag straight away
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>>58874699
Zam beats lucario because it is 1-prizer taking a 1hko vs a 3-prizer taking a 2hko.
A 17 card hand is not that unreasonable in a no-iono format. Although lucario would have an easier time chaining judge with its lunatone engine.
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>>58876439
Weird they don't release the boards+bgm as cosmetics. The galaxy stars board from that patch was nice
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>>58874670
I've been playing it since this post. It feels sort of like Fighting Mew Vmax to me so far. Insane damage, tons of draw, doesn't need much to get going. Being able to oneshot things that can't do it back to you is great. Using Wally to heal, draw with the energy you get back, then attacking with the same Lucario to power up a Hariyama or another Lucario feels amazing. I really like it.
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>>58879482
Most Sharpedo piles are kind of the same, so there's nothing really out there that's worth running over the regular, and the regular is nothing special. You could probably find a dozen to reference if you tried.
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>>58878605
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/22242/product-legality- and-competitive-ruleset-support-in- pokemon-tcg-live
They're going to add trainer trials to match irl tournament legality. Instead of online having it's own weird meta only
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>>58880046
>However, implementation of changes takes some time, and additional engineering work is necessary for us to do so safely. We are looking to first pilot this through a pre-Rotation Trainer Trial in March, with additional pilot tests to follow. Players can expect an update with more information as we get closer to the 2026 Standard format rotation.
How hard is it for an intern to spend one afternoon creating a banlist with pokepad and all the other ascended heroes cards?
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Or I can get supporters and then still get a bad hand, if I'm not able to evolve to Gabite early or get energies it's a huge issue
And I have also lost turn 1 to just having 1 pokemon and then anything kills gible or roselia
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It's so round
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>>58880777
Thoughts on this? Had some issues with switching from the active spot if they put Toedscruel there
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a 2nd million dollar deck has hit the pokemon tcg
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>>58881354
Could anyone have predicted 0-energy item lock or "place 13 damage counters" at that time?
Highest placing Pult at worlds was 123rd by someone who forgot their ace spec.
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>>58881435
Yeah but then you can just attach energy and retreat. I doubt your opponent would waste two bosses orders wanting to trap you and they would need to kill the roserade off anyway to advance the game state so it's not the end of the world.
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[P][P][P] Shellnado Spin: 180 damage. During your opponent's next turn, if this Pokemon takes damage from an attack, put 12 damage counters on the Attacking Pokemon.
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>Stupid Pokemon
>Stupid fish
>Senior year
>Illustrated: horse milk
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Honestly the Erika's stuff is better than I thought it would be. I feel like the Tangela has so much power behind it that even getting 1-2 usable cards would probably make it too strong as a single prize deck since it can consistently attack for 240. If I could ask for anything, it would be a thematic Erika trainer, hopefully one that accelerates an energy so I don't have to run Crispin and a mega Victreebel.
At any rate, I'm trying to make the deck a bit better so I'm also looking for recs. The idea is that it's rotation safe because I don't feel like adding Arven and shit just to take it out in a month or two. I also can't think of any way to accelerate another energy, but I'm also fine with Crispin if I can find a decent card that's actually worth running as a late game attacker or something. Also, I feel like items are a bit weaker with Arven and Town Store leaving, but not running any balloons for the Tangela sounds bad but since I have so many on the bench I can't just preemptively put them on.
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>>58878589
[C][C] for no damage and an RNG status condition
[C][C][C] for 20 damage with conditional 20 extra but then also an upside for the opponent
60HP
2 retreat
this was why the game was dropping off because everything just felt weak and unfun to play
come the e-reader sets and 95% of the setlist was entirely unplayable because pokemon had retarded passives like
>if you have any grass energy on this grass pokemon it costs 2 more to retreat
>you can't attach fire energy to this fire pokemon
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>>58883972
I do both because I'm a FOMO faggot with my friends, and because I actually want decks. The fact that I have ASC cards a month before they're legal is cool to me.
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you know what to do
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>>58862987
Why did it flop? Even after rotation, in Japan, it is seeing no play whatsoever.
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>>58884699
Pidgeot Control but you have to have a solid grasp of how all other decks play. I personally would go with pure froslass, it is a fun deck that's still competitive but I am kind of biased toward one prizer decks.
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>>58884699
Play energy control. Rocket's Zapdos+handheld and push the energy onto something unplayable and then play something that can win you the game like a bench sniper or just deck them out when they can't play. If you don't want to play control then pick this Cradily or the new Dustox/Beautifly.
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The flop brother
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>for fun shop tournament (>>58884279)
>I bring Pult
>"Nobody else is going to bring anything serious"
>Several new people to the shop
>Go 2-1, Pult mirror in the finals
>I lose to a misplay because I'm a colossal faggot
Yea, "don't bring your serious deck" my ass.
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I just want a fully functional expanded format on PTCGL. Is that so much to ask? It took the US less time to design and develop the nuclear bomb than for the devs to give us a feature that was present in the old game.
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>>58888743
Mega Diancie bomb, Garchomp (or Lucario I guess but I'm a Garchomp believer), Arboliva, Honchkrow might end up being decent. I've been queueing into Frosslass Munkidori a lot since the mega is out and it looks pretty good to be honest, at least better than Grimmsnarl ever was.
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>>58888959
I would have expected more placements from a deck that beats the deck with 20% meta share.
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>>58888965
I actually have a garchomp deck right now but I'm switching to the mega lucario. I think the stadium is the deciding factor here, because garchomp will be losing town store and arven meanwhile lucario can use gravity mountain
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>>58889335
It's intended to be spread. You try to go first and hit the bench turn 2 after blowing up a dusclops or two in case they have any 70/80 hp starters so you get rid of anything most decks can attack with for a turn or two and you just continue to hit whatever they need to play the game. The only thing you attack with is it unless you go second in which case you just put budew up. It's rough into Gardevoir though, but most decks are so whatever. You also run the triple colorless to one shot big darks since it'll do 320. It's fun and there's not really a fast spread deck on the market besides turbo obsidian I guess. I have post rotation list as well, but you only swap out 8 cards and none of them are that missed outside of Arven.
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I wanted to be a team rocket so I made this.
I think I am going to take out the nestballs for another Orbeetle and Sacred Ash. The nestball are overkill here.
It's not a good deck, but it's a fun. Moving all the damage counters to a single Mewtwo then using a Giovanni to send a Wobbuffet to do some big damage is fun.
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>>58890024
Look at this anon outing himself as a GILF-lover. Sorry, but she too dried out to have anymore children.
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>>58891592
Aight
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>>58891670
>without a way to reliably give 6 damage counters
I'm a bit surprised we never saw it included in budew/froslass/munkidori before that deck got access to mega froslass as a ohko option.
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>>58891863
Yeah, but rather, getting into the game right before rotation is a bad endeavour. You can play on tcg live and even start getting physical cards right now just be sure to not buy stuff with "G" regulation mark.
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>This thing is useless without a way to reliably give 6 damage counters
*enters*
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>>58891629
>all these codes
>no pulls posted
This general isn't what it used to be.
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Is it a Firefox problem?
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>>58862987
>Download PTCGL
>needs to open a browser to log in
>ugly UI
>doesn't save your character right
>notifications for new cards don't leave
>try to restart the game
>no longer launches
I see now why this thing isn't popular at all.
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Not bad.
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Best of the starter decks you get in PTCGL? Having good results with MegaMega for the little I've tried it and it seems very straightforward to pilot which is nice to start (and conversely dogshit results with 'pon getting manascrewed hard), but I imagine it has little lasting power once you get serious. Should I prioritise upgrading the 'pult deck in the background for future use, or are the better things to build?
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LGS had some fusion strike boosters for $11 so I got one and opened it and I got reverse holo Jynx which is okay because I actually love Jynx even if I overpaid by $10 anyway 4-9YV
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>>58894917
Regidrago will likely be banned if they actually integrate expanded. Everyone will instantly start bitching about the deck so in another however much +3 years we'll have expanded actually playable. Looking forward to it.
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>>58895275
They've never banned a deck for being too oppressive in playrate. They only ban for turn1 donks/item locks. All the control stuff that prevents you playing the game like yugioh
Regidrago doesn't actually do any of that so it's not under the normal criteria they ban for. Still they really should because expanded is absolutely awful due to it, moreso than lugia is there
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>colorless tropius
This vexes me. I understand that flying is covered under colorless, but when so many flying types take their secondary type, and those who don't are often normal/flying, it feels wrong for tropius to be anything other grassor metal.
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Yup, I'm thinking each and every one of you should apologize.
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>>58897169
Lucario is not that bad.
You use the gong to look for energy, then Lunatone + Solrock to get the draw engine. You can even use Solrock to defeat early non evolved basics or to just soften things.
With the drinks you can raise the damage too so Lucario gives 3 energies to quickly recover what you discard with Lunatone (and also defeat some non rule box basics) and because he can survive with that fat 340 hp, he can kill something big too in his next turn.
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