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Maybe life isn't so bad after all
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My game is crashing when I try to collect the 3 mission supporter cards
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>>58885473
>Galarian Obstagoon
As opposed to what? Hoennian Obstagoon? Lol
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>>58885473
Got a FA Juggler. Amy fun decks that use him? I tried a dumb Blissey deck but it doesn't work great.
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>>58885490
https://x.com/PokemonTCGP/status/2017369564607361033
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>>58885473
Is he a skunk?
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>>58885532
It's a badger.
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>>58885495
Since they started appearing in the TCG, they've been using this name scheme for regional-exclusive evolutions, so we have things like "Galarian Runerigus" and "Hisuian Sneasler".
I have no idea why they do that.
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>>58885536
I just realized that. Looked up fanart and it seems furfags love him. Oh well I love badgers too.
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ran into a shiny AI deck, is this a rare occurence ?
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>>58885568
Think so. Saw a leddit post about the AI could be a whalefag too.
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>>58885572
This psychic deck is definitely an AI deck, I fought it earlier today. idk about the shiny water deck
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>>58885542
It's in case they have a card in the future that specifically targets a regional form group.
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>>58885581
I've fought it.
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Strangle all Fagnezone players, watch the life drain from their eyes!
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>>58885542
>>58885637
Uh...pretty sure you strangled them all? Haven't seen a single one since the update...
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>>58885481
TWO FOR TWO BABY
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Anybody feel like helping me with a weavile deck? I thought the new stadium that buffed stage 1 damage would help it out. But I lose fairly often. I replaced gio with it. But im thinking I should keep gio and maybe lose the Sabrina?
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>Bench-focusing attacks (SneekyLee, Tongue Whip) still break Metal Core Barrier despite doing no damage to the Active slot

Wut
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>>58885663
read the card retard
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Aaaah it's so pretty, I wonder what kind of deck I can make with her
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>>58885660
70 damage is simply too low for this meta.
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>>58885674
The stadium amps it to 80
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>>58885663
The Core is breaking itself.
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>>58885680
That's still pretty low for the setup required.
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>>58885692
But its my favorite pokemon..
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>>58885568
yeah and if you go 3-0 there's a chance to get a shiny or crown card at the end
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>>58885660
wait for a dark stadium or trainer specific for them
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This set is actually pretty great overall, my only complaints are piers and mega kang. Mega Kang in particular feels like total powercreep in terms of damage. You’d think our first true suicune counter thats good (fuck off mega venu) would be an electric type, but no its fucking kangaskhan.
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>>58885673
It's so funny how she's the secondary mascot for the set and they just fucking decided Meowth gets the immersive.
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>>58885755
>beating mega kang
>ilima, mantyke, energy
>full hp mega kang ready to go again
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Fuck Meowth for cockblocking me from Gardevoir
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Expert Solo Mega Waifu is kicking my ass, help.
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>>58885819
It's annoying isn't it? Always starting with Meloetta, Garde shows up early and too tanky to kill and it immediately retreats for free with the stadium and fully heals while a charged up Xerneas kills whatever you had in front
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>>58885834
>charged up Xerneas
*Mewtwo
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>>58885819
Entei+MZard. Always play with the idea that Entei WILL go down, so have your patches ready for MZard to clean.
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What does the Winstreak on the new random battle mean?
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>>58885892
Means how many battles you won in a row.
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>>58885896
kek thanks I forgot that part of the game, stupid me!
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>"AKIRA"
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>check Pokehub 1-star trade for Tyrantrum FA
>every nigger is asking for Obstagoon
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new meowth is pretty broken
r-tards complaining about the immersive are truly forsaken
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Reminder the most value you can get on wonderpick hourglasses is right now to get those 3/4 diamond cards.
Later on the month people will go back to finish older sets after finishing this one, so you'll see fewer of them in your list.
And the faster you get those 3/4 diamond cards, the earlier you start getting 24 hours for 1/2 star picks.
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It's only been about 3 days and I've already seen 4 2* WPs for this set (only got the Juggler FA, go figure)
During the last DX set I only saw 1 2* WP
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>>58885854
Thanks but I finally got lucky with my Jolteon deck and killed the two stupid ralts before they could do shit.
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Hold on a minute
fire+water+colorless ramp delcatty for salamence? Hopefully it triggers juggler too
Infinitely more work than hydreigon but let's give it a go
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>>58885999
Using Magby+Mantyke? Sounds risky.
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>>58886018
Yeah probably
Just tried the delcatty thing and got 6 water energies in a row
Incredible game
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>>58886035
I really don't know why the energy order is random. They really do not want people using multi-colored decks.
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>>58886047
I think the new fire ogerpon + magby and only water energy
Deal 40 per turn and Will can be used for either ogerpon's effect or mence's recoil
Don't have fire ogerpon though
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>>58885784
It's fine at least they didn't cheap out on the art
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Nobody wants to trade Oak for Lillie DX or Sightseer unless it's two Oaks for one.
When did Oak's value rise so much?
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>>58886089
They somehow managed to add the feel of dealing with scalpers in a digital game
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>>58886089
i mean 2 cards for 1 oak
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so are obstatroon and gaygistan going to dominate the next ranked or will it be the usual suspects?
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I want Mega Raichu. I want running Pikachu to be viable again
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I'm trying to make M-Mawile work but it's not easy. The idea here is to open up the possibility of switching out while still retaining the damage potential, which tops at 120 on a fresh switch in with double Aegislash.
Basically
x2 M-Mawile, x1 Magby, x1 Cleffa
x2 Honedge, x1 Doublade, X2 Aegislash
x2 Pokeball, x2 Oak, x2 Rare Candy
x2 Copycat, x1 Steel Apron, space for 2 cards. Cyrus? Sabrina? Maybe it's no Doublade and another Mabgy? It can charge Aegislash if going 2nd.
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>>58886089
>lillie
same set as oak, has two other rare variants
>sightseer
actually just a complete garbage card

also oak is just the most valuable card hy default lmao
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when are they adding the very obvious fossil searcher trainer support
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>150 packs
I don't feel so good
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>>58885673
leafeon
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i found this decklist online. is skarmory EX still usable in fantasical parade?
i love the idea of a steel type pokemon tanking everything with damage reduction cards
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>>58886210
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>>58886215
It's probably better with the new metal barrier tool and ice pop, but I haven't tried it yet
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>>58886218
What did you want bro?
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>>58886210
14/15
mega gard/mega kangsanshiet will trade for w/e trainer rn
sucks to suck ig
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>>58886223
This is all I have to show for 186 packs
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>hit kangaskan
>ilima
this feels not balanced? Megas are supposed to be risky pokemon, you are telling me this nigga can retreat for free whenever?
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>>58885673
Pick between Snorlax Ex and Slaking.
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>>58886233
colorless need good support since they are mostly bad otherwise
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Tried a lot of cards with Toxtricity ex but it's just not there.
>jolteon
Energy tax is nice but jolteon competes for energy with Tox, no way to cram energy acceleration in a deck that has both.
>Raikou
Thought it could work, but it's too slow for 2 points. Same criticism as jolteon with energy.
>Pichu/Elekid
May be helpful but most of the time these fuckers don't do much, might as well put chingling to annoy my opponent.
>Spiritomb
Perhaps the best combo, either the old or the new has something that helps but ultimately you're giving away 1 point and as with pyukumyuku it's falls off.
>plusle/minun
Lol, I'm sure dena thought this was gonna be meta.
>tapu koko/Zeraora + elemental switch
Safe ways to get energy early however they lack everything else.

What's more is that there is no way of dealing with decks that leave the bench empty, so venusaur ex, blaziken ex and mawile ex can sweep easily. So it's gonna be another set of paying the oricoriozone tax for lightningfags. Maybe Amped Up Toxtricity will be meta. but it's far more likely it will be the side B card for the premiumfags
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>>58886244
Kangaskhan is not understated in anyway. Its damage rivals stage 2 pokemon
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>>58886247
yeah I mean it's extremely good for a colorless which is why the support for it is broken
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>>58886244
>needed*
ftfy
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>>58886246
probably going to have to wait for GMax before its good
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What should I do with premium tickets?
1. Get May&Torchic stuff for points I have and MegaCharizard stuff after tomorrow
2. Ignore May&Torchic, get MegaCharizard stuff now and MegaGardevoir after tomorrow
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Probably the craziest pack I've seen
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anyone having fun with juggalo?
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>want to build something
>oh this card could synergise with this and under those conditions it's decent
>wait this meta card does everything and more by itself
>nevermind
I understand that meta cards are supposed to be the strongest iterations of something, but the degree to which they do is daunting. Especially Dragons which require multi energy cards. After Hydreigon, is there a single reason to use Kommoo or Salamence? Or even anything 3 stage that deals around 130 without a secondary effect?
Because I can't see any reason to
>>58886332
I was exactly trying to build for dude but I can't see a use case besides boosting a bit the gen2 legends deck. Or maybe oh ho dnite
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>>58886365
If you're less efficient than Hydreigon or Maltaria you're not seeing play.
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>>58886365
I wanted to try mega dnite but I dunno what 3rd energy to pick.
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>mega kang with Oricoro and the frog
But of course, why wouldn't you stack all of the cancer into one pile.
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so how's mega gardevoir? was it overhyped?
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>>58886373
yeah i hate this shit so much. why does Salamance have 50% of 50 recoil for 3 energies of which 2 of different types when Rampardos and Hydra exist?
>>58886378
Maybe fire to make Oricorio Fire memes? Or just water elec and use juggler situationally when you have oh ho setup
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>>58886332
>>58886365
some1 got top 32 in a 270 man tourney with zard slop feat juggler but meh
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>>58886395
forgort pic
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>let's make a card that no one will ever use
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>>58886387
Hmmm ho-oh Dnite makes complete sense.
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Got my FA Tyrantrum playset
Time for some fun
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>>58886409
At 4 fucking energy in the zero ramp type it fucking deserved to keep nuking shit every turn.
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Traded Piers FA for Sightseer then Sightseer for Copycat
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>>58886409
>ex
>stage 3
>zero ramp, not even a single colorless
is this the new worst non-promo ex?
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>japanese player rage quits on me after flipping tails on ice pop
>"waiting for opponent to return" no concede
>add them
>they accept
>gift them a Will and unfriended

I love being toxic in this game. I did the same thing with someone who rage quit when I got 5 heads flips on their Mega Charizard with my Rocket Grunt. Added them and sent them a spare Rocket Grunt to rub it in.
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>>58886233
ilima wasn't designed to be used with Mega Kangaskhan. There's a genuine chance the people that designed mega kanga thought the card got rotated out.
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>>58886409
I found a deck that, granted it hit Top 16 in a tournament, looked pretty fun using Wisdom of Sea and Sky Swanna to accelerate energy onto it.
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>>58886507
>damn, I really need to change my internet provider
>oh, someone gifted me a card, how nice :D
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>>58886507
Fortunately this wouldn't work on me. I don't friend people that beat me.
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>>58886507
nips are something else in tis game. isn't it dishonourable or something to act like a complete bitch every time you lose?
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>>58886409
I'm beyond mad. Fuck these niggers, from 6 packs ago is a gorillon times better, 120 damage and Volkner support
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>>58886507
what if you're fighting a kid who couldn't properly regulate his emotions well.
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>>58886530
And these people always suffer Internet issues the very moment they're in a position of losing, every single time huh?

>>58886582
good lol hope they blow a blood vessel

>>58886574
its ALWAYS the Japanese players doing this too
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>>58886590
wanna know how I know you're american?
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Weird pack
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>>58886365
>the degree to which they do is daunting
>i cant see any reason to
because youre playing pocket pvp and we already know how stupid this shit is, you're winning with a luckier open draw if you're running your limitlesstcg hydreigon /absol/whatever like every other joyless fool in droves
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Anyone have an extra FP alolan marowak they want to share/trade?
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>>58886409
bonsly will be in b2, or maybe a ramp adjacent stadium power
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I’m slowly starting to understand the hate towards Magnezone.
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>>58886332
Yes
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>>58886632
>Zangoose
Nigga just run Druddigon. Him + Rocky Helmet will do 80 damage to Mega Kangaskhan.
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>>58886634
Can you share the brew ?
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>>58886634
be honest, how many times does this brick hard?
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>>58886638
From the previous thread >>58881985
Only generate grass energy
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>>58886636
retreat cost too high and Zang is there for early pressure and as a Oricorio counter.
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>>58886089
>When did Oak's value rise so much?
It never dropped, the fuck you mean
Oak has always been the most coveted card in the game bar none
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>>58886645
Thanks
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>>58886644
The only times I bricked are when I never drew Giratina or Magnemite for 6 turns which only happened like twice with all the search cards in place over Cyrus and Sabrina. This is the real problem.
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>>58886661
Giratina in front is a death sentence in today's meta
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they shit so hard on my boy.
>3 energy dragon
>2 energy for retreat
>50% chance of hurting himself.
garchomp is more viable than him. i consider this a direct attack to salamence and salamence enjoyers
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>>58886669
It's like they don't get just how much of a penalty being forced to run two types is.
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>>58886646
>>58886669
>>58886671
If we have to wait until 2027 to get Dragon Energy, assuming we even get it then, I am going to strangle someone.
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>>58886669
I still play my Kommo-o deck every now and then, even if it's a worse Hydreigon
At least Salamence got a cool FA I guess
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>>58886669
You deal literally Mewtwo damage on a non-EX with no condition and no Energy discharge, cry me a fucking river
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>>58886332
I've been trying the Celebi deck, but it simply hasn't been working out. I never get the right combination of cards to actually play the game.
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So are there any stats out there on what the solo hourglasses look like now
Are we getting less or are they just allocated to the random battle mode
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>>58886332
I was thinking how else his supporter could have been designed to support Lightning/Darkness cards like Voltorb and Koffing based on his ingame teams and just realized now his juggler gimmick was round Pokemon
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>>58886679
Garchomp does the same with less requirements and without killing himself, dont forget element of surprise provided by Cynthia.
Let me remind you it was released ELEVEN (11) expansions ago.
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>>58886702
Random battle has an expiry date
Maybe this mode refreshes every season with new hourglasses (which means new players miss out on past random battle hourglasses) or random mode just goes away after this and those hourglasses may or may not return to the main solo mode
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>>58886715
I meant these amount of hourglasses
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>>58886713
Cynthia is a supporter. If you drew her with Oak that turn, you're only doing 100. If you use Cynthia, you can't also use a switcher supporter.
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>>58886665
Nah it's good for baiting Cyrus or pressure them to bring out something stronger to kill it when I choose to generate 1 energy on it out of nowhere thinking I'm gonna retreat into the other Giratina. In that battle he swapped Mew ex for M Gard when Mew could have killed the 20 HP Giratina itself but he was afraid of the Giratina on bench with 5 energy coming in (it all went to Celebi) that Indeedee wouldnt have been able to kill unless he had Red.
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I wish upon kanga gren players a nice stroke
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>>58886804
of their penis, right?
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>>58886669
Also not that good in physical either, unfortunately
He's barely functional in the few times I tried to get him to work
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>>58886669
You Just know mega mence Is gonna be broken
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>>58886889
As long as they make it colorless
Its Aerilate ability in the games does make it distinctively Flying-type focused so it should be likely
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>>58886845
I think the worst about dragons in pocket is that there's not a single card that has a single energy attack, like they could try to give a dragon two attacks instead but noooooooo, god forbid they give then a chance.
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>>58886893
Come to think of it I think 2 attacks are also reserved for ex only?
Which is also super retarded
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>First two star of this set is this WP after 50 shitty packs which got me Just One stars and not even an immersive meowth
just fucking kill me
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Obstagoon is even more obnoxious than Hydreigon.
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Everything about this update feels incredibly shitty and jewish from Dena
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>>58886905
That's every update. It keeps getting worse, always.
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>>58886901
I can trade you any of the following for him plus a celestic town elder if youre interested, or do you want any planetas?
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>>58886902
It cannot deal 130 on first turn so no, it cannot be, at least without piers but that's more rng than hydreigon
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>>58886910
Sorry man, I only have dust for a trade, I just trade for meta cards right now
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new aegi's effect gets nullified when phased out to the bench and sent back in. Kanga killed my mon pulled from the bench after Aegi attacked, and the second hit had no damage reduction. Thank you Dena
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>>58886922
That's how effects like that have always worked.
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>>58886922
Every effect like that clears when it's put to the bench and back.
That's what allowed Buzzwole ex+Celesteela to be obnoxious that one season.
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>>58886926
a bug that the fags won't fix, nice
>>58886927
ultra thrusters + retreat manually?
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>>58886938
Yes. Use Lusamine or an X-Speed, retreat Buzzwole then bring it back with Celesteela.
It's not a bug. Volatile effects like that clear on the bench. It's in the ruleset. Works like that on the real TCG.
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>>58886938
It's not a bug you retard that's how it's supposed to work.
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>>58886897
As far as I can tell 3D have 1 attack or 1 attack + ability. Some ex have 2 attacks or 1 attack + 1 power
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>>58886943
>next turn you will take less damage
>you don't
>NOOOO YOU SEE ITS INTENDED DENA IS RIGHT
nope.
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Looking for wellspring mask ogerpon
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>>58886960
Everything that's not an ability only works in the active zone, not the game's fault you're retarded.
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>>58886960
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what do you guys use for trading sites? i tried google searching some but there's a shit ton of them
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>>58886969
PokeHub. The 30 second ads when trying to set up a trade suck, but overall a lot easier to navigate and find decent trades than PokeTrade from my experience.
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>>58886969
pokétrade just because there's an actual website that you can use on desktop too
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>>58886969
Pokehub is the actual worst place. The ads are infinite and im not exaggerating. What's even worse are the people because you'll never find a card that isnt just to trade for Oak or Cyrus.
Poketrade actually has a ton of decent trades and the ads can mitigated by closing and opening the app whereas the pokehub ads will restart if you close then open the app
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>>58886992
>>58886986
My main qualm with PokeTrade is how people can put cards as "for trade" without an equivalent card listed as "wanted" for that rarity.
Makes the entire search function pointless.
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>>58886998
That means that they haven't disabled (hidden) the rarity of that card type
They had cards up for trade in that rarity and they got rid of all their wishlisted, leaving only their for trade
That fault lies on the trader, not poketrade
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>>58886916
Okay, how about a FA Mega Kangaskhan?
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>>58887006
Yeah but on PokeHub when that happens, the listing is auto removed.
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>>58887020
well sometimes even if they have no wishilist I just offer some cool cards and it works regardless
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>>58887020
poketrade you just spam offers and take the first you get anyways since they last forever, could just try to trade whatever and see if it works
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Yeaah i have no idea what the fuck to do against kang. Ilima might be the most bullshit card ever, i can’t believe a 180hp basic exists fuck this retarded game. Im gonna run exclusively bench sniping its time to bring blaziken back
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What should I do with premium tickets?
1. Get May&Torchic stuff for points I have and MegaCharizard stuff after tomorrow
2. Ignore May&Torchic, get MegaCharizard stuff now and MegaGardevoir after tomorrow
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is mega gardevoir actually good or is the expert solo deck just a cheating piece of shit
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>>58886998
the trick with poketrade is you don't expect to search for the card you want, just list your card and use the daily boost and eventually someone will see it and send you an offer
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So if we call the pokemon center lady, Nurse Joy in english, what do the japs call her?
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>>58887038
Protective poncho ;)
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>>58886905
they probably saw their engagement numbers and revenue passed a certain peak and were in constant decline, so now they're sliding into the "milk the mentally ill whales we already have hooked" territory
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>>58887085
ジョーイさん
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>>58887038
I'm so glad I managed to wonder pick a 2* Ilima. I never intended on using him, I don't even like him, but now I have one to show off.
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>>58886409
Sorry, fighting has Lucario tax like Water has Misty tax. Even though Lucario is shit.
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>>58886969
>>58886979
>>58886992
Pokehub on Android using a adguard private DNS I get zero ads
>>58887062
Everybody's preferences are different
I mainly collect display boards and some album covers
I ignored all the May stuff, and only got the MegaZard display, but will probably get all the MegaGarde stuff except for the playmat
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>>58887115
there will be a stadium that affects 4 retreat cost pokemon trust the plan
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>>58887115
Water has no tax, it still gets good cards.
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>yeah use 12 cards from the latest set for this mission
>game refuses to give me the useful cards from the set after 50 packs
Worst card game in history
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>>58887149
Those requirements completely removed my desire to 100% the singleplayer challenges. Last month's sucked, too.
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when champions bros
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I feel like we are in a tipping point where every new set is more meta cancerous than the previous one.
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>>58887180
It's been this way since the Celebi set brother. They do this to encourage you to spend money to get le epic wins against people not spending money. If this game was as predatory as a real PvP Gacha, it would be 100x worse on purpose.
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>>58886669
the baseline is now 150 damage with negative effects

we used to have 120 with negative effects but now the power scale has risen
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>>58887189
I now understand why they wait 2-3 weeks after every set to turn ranked back on.
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>>58887192
It's crazy that Solgaleo got powercrept so hard and fast.
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>>58887163
Same. Up to that point I was 100% every solo mission.
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I love how steel is supposed to be the bulky type but in reality its water. Suicune and Greninja are impossible for some decks to match up into still
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>>58887241
Just like in the main series!
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Oh right the main reason Solgaleo ran anything else at all was to deal with the dumb bird
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Waking Roar and Mega Greninja will cement water decks in tier 0 forever
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>>58887265
>Waking Roar
It's fucking Walking Wake. I hate these retarded names
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>>58887264
yeah skarmory does it
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>>58887062
Charitard fans might be worse than eeveelution fans. I'd go May and Gard.
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christian brew
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>>58887341
Might as well use Kangaskhan if it's just going to be Ilima meatshield
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>Opponent plays Obstagoon
>HEHE, I HAVE GENGAR. YOU CAN'T USE PIERS. HAHAHAH. FUCK THAT BROKEN SUPPORT.
>Gets oneshot by Obstagoon + rocky helm anyway
>Uninstall
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>>58887341
Is there any reason why all these decks use fighting energy? I assume there's supposed to be a fighting mon in these cookie cutter builds, but every time I go against one of these they lose by the 3rd turn so I never get to see wtf they're trying to even cook, and this build has me even more confused.
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>>58887356
I think they are assigned fighting by default. Ideally they would use water for irida right?
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Am I winning, dad?
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>>58887381
Luckycad just dropped Juggler deck
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>>58887365
Grass is the default for colorless decks. So someone is manually assigning Fighting. Also Iridia is irrelevant (lol) when these things don't have enough HP to last a single hit from my Beginning Bolt Jolteon, as 98% of these matchups go (sometimes they make it to Jolteon EX instead and have to wait an extra turn before getting oneshot!)

>>58887381
Looks like a win to me. Juggler is a sleeper card that will shine more when people experiment more with colorless decks. Colorless is slept on and M.Kanga is making the archetype way more viable. The ability to work with any other type is cool. Seen M.Kanga in Fire, Electric, and Psychic decks. Going to be fun when we have colorless builds juggling energies around. Weavile is way too weak, it was too weak even when it was first released. So unless you like the card art, it's not going to get any legitimate use in the future. Should have at the very least given it 0 retreat cost or something. Maybe a Pursuit like effect that deals extra damage if they try withdrawing next turn or something. It's just so lackluster - was designed around Darkrai but Darkrai out the gate already had better partners so...
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>>58887350
trade
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>>58887350
>>58887356
It's an obvious meme brew, grande autismos
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>>58887411
Yea but what does Fighting energy have to do with Jesus? I guess fighting is the "justice" type?
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I really tried to make Mawile work but it is just too slow and hits like a wet towel. It is beyond me why they haven't bumped it's damage from 60 to 90.
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>>58887440
Same here. I had some good matches but ultimately M-Mawile just doesn't work. It's not bulky enough to sustain continued damage for a solo mon and it's not powerful enough to get a revenge kill.
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Looking for new Fantastical Parade Spiritomb. Last card to complete the pokedex
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>>58887455
is that new -50 damage tool + perrserker too gimmicky?
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>>58887479
I think you get 4 uses max of the pad, and then you may also get the appron first and need it for something that causes adverse effects which then later you can't remove.
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>>58887479
Too much shit has to go right for you to make that work, maybe if Mega Mawile started at 120 power instead of 60 you'd have something.
>>58887486
Honestly you might as well run Ogerpon on the bench at that point.
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>>58887490
>Honestly you might as well run Ogerpon on the bench at that point.
Not a bad idea
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Already tired of this Shitvoir pack, bring me the STARMAN.
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>>58887341
Y'know, wouldn't Ditto also work in the active slot if your 1st Maushold goes down?
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>people beg for a greninja counter
>no one runs poncho
by all means ill keep taking my free wins
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>>58887508
Yes i already ran into a deck doing that
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>>58887479
What I found from using that tool is that most of the time your opponent will just Sabrina/Cyrus a benched mon and then not only your build up power is reset but your 1-time use tool gets wasted as well.
Its either you play M-Mawile completely solo to avoid that (and get cucked by Oricorio) or you use Aegi to ramp up the base power. Neither work very well.
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>>58885817
daats right
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>>58887516
>Run poncho
>Opponent doesn't have any snipers so it's a waste
>Opponent has snipers and can go for something else
>If Poncho becomes a problem you can simply run Guzma
Shit card.
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>>58887564
The poncho only working on the bench is what kills it for me.
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>>58887568
It's because it also blocks attacks that they had to make it bench only but it's not like Decidueye or Hitmonlee are common threats
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>>58887564
Does it even protect you in the active? Seems like wasted potential
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>>58887564
crown rare btw (should've been lucky ice pop)
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>>58887592
>should've been lucky ice pop)
Just wait until deluxe set 2
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>>58887568
Wait what? So a greninja can still ping my gyarados in the active spot?
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>>58887634
Yes. Have fun.
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got a trade for rainbow kanga
this card is so fucking cool dude
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>>58887678
technically trading for a 2* pokegirl
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>just traded dx mew & mew2 of the which i only had 2 for each for FA whitney and my second FA lusamine dx
>now im only missing my second fa lillie dx with about 1100 points accumulated
kantoGODS i kneel
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>>58887436
It's not fighting, it's rock. Cause Jesus moved the rock to escape the cave he was sealed in after death. Duh.

>>58887634
Aww, that's cute. You thought they'd make a legitimate counter to their shillmon? This half assed counter is the best they could do. In theory it's good but it's like that stupid ass watering can item that gets rid of fire energies. Too specific of an item to be worth using because it's dead weight in most matchups, and even when you manage to get the matchup where it'd actually be useful it doesn't really do a good job at "countering." I'm actually surprised they didn't also include an item that lets yo bypass the effects of a tool for a single turn (think of it as a single use temp Guzma) or something similar to how Flame Patch completely negates the watering can; but I suspect that'll be in the next patch lol.
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>>58887678
>you
>"I can't believe I traded this shit Trainer for a RR Kanga!"
>him
>"I can't believe I'm getting any wife for this shit Kanga!"
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>>58887703
the best trades are the ones where both sides feel like they got a better deal
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>>58887703
>Me, from the cuck chair
>"Damn I wish I had either of those cards..."
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>everyone and their moms saying mawile is trash
>meanwhile people trying to get top tier trainers for the 2 stars
I'll just wait for the next expansion when the value falls off a cliff like every other card from this pack
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skipping these packs, hopefully next set Hilda debuts
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>>58887734
You know that some people see Mawile as a waifi card, right?
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Give it to me straight boys.

Is it impossible to trade for a shiny red gyarados if you don't have a meta card to offer in return?

This is the only card I can trade for it.
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>>58887739
sure but pretty much all the FAs are really high value right now so it's hard to get any of them
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>>58887734
she's a waifucard, bro
give it a week or two and her value will go down a bit

>>58887739
it's me, i'm some people
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>>58887742
yeah. if you don't have a meta shiny, you're fucked.
shinies are expensive to trade and ugly as shit, so people literally only care about the meta ones as a flex.
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>225 pack points
>2 EX
>6 shinies
I FUCKING HATE SHINIES TAKING ALL MY LUCK FUCKING TRASH
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At least I hit one of them
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So what's the meta decks so far? Obstagoon is good and fun but I don't think it's great unless I'm playing it wrong.
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>>58887786
garde and kanga are the new meta cards. gooner is popular right now but it's just a worse hydreigon like everyone expected.
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>>58887772
AND NOW I MISS THIS WP

I SERIOUSLY DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED TO MY LUCK. DIDNT HIT 1 24 WP ALL CB, 0/6 ON FP SET SO FAR
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>>58887801
Swamp sucks?
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how did hydriegon get even better
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>>58887825
regardless, this seems like a versatile meta
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>>58887818
Half the time the thing is going to remove energy from itself.
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>>58887776
Chances you hit both: 4%
Chances you miss both: 64%
Chances you hit one: 32%

Good job anon. Proud of you.
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>>58887818
it's like whimsicott where it's definitely playable but it's just missing the sauce to compete with the big meta decks.
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>>58887786
>>58887828
>>58887825
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>>58887833
Whimsicott can actually compete with the big meta decks, Swampert's condition is a big handicap
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>>58887742
I have Red Gyarados ex, even though I don't care for it that much there is nothing I particularly want for it so I just keep it.
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>>58887767
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any deck with ogerpon ex yet? i got the rainbow one but the card seems only ok
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>>58887862
Ive been trying to come up with something too, her ability is great to keep grass types alive that would otherwise fold to MBlaziken's burn I suppose, so she can exist as a support but thats mostly it
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>>58887862
I thought Slaking and it would be a good pair but I guess no one tried or if they did it sucked, other than that idk.
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>>58887839
That's fair. I just want the 1 star shiny cause of the emblem mission. But also because gold was my favorite pokemon game growing up so red gyarados holds a special place in my heart u_u
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>>58887862
Slaking or Snorlax Ex
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>>58887825
>>58887828
Uhhhh M-Gardevoir sissys....
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>>58887862
leafeon to pump it up and ensure it gets the double damage probably
using it as a bandaid for self-status colorless cards like snorlax and slaking is bad because those cards can already just run comfey and psychic energy without risking 2 points from an ogerpon KO
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>>58887862
I fought against one deck that used Goomy for support so Ias forced to overfeed my Pokemon with energy. It also used Leafeon for ramping.
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What should I get?
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>>58887897
Lilie is the most generically applicable one, Guzma right after and then there's Ilima for Mega Kang memes.
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>>58887897
Your wife/husband
In terms of the one that will see most use its definitely Lillie
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They shoud allow Shiny Gyarados ex to also count for that Emblem mission.
:(
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>"I've had about enough of this game, but I may as stick around for Mega Mawile"
>it's Miltank but somehow worse
I can't believe how bad this game is.
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>>58887897
listen to your dick
lana
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>>58887897
Lana and trade me her so I can get the secret Wishiwishi emblem
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>Look at auto
>AI just flipped heads 4 times on ice pop to fully heal a Roselia out of KO range
Nice to get confirmation the AI still knows the rng ahead of the flips.
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>>58887917
If they wanted MegaMaw to work her attack needed to cost 1 energy.
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>>58887900
>>58887902
I initially tried to get the points to get Lillie but on the last stretch I somehow got 3 immersive Lillies, which I like better, so now I have no idea. I also have 2 immersive Guzmas so I’m fine not picking him
Is Lillie still a good trade card now that new Lillie exists? If not I may go for Ilima

>>58887920
Seems like the worst girl there desu
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yippee yay (this my favourite,)
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>>58887935
>Ilima
disgusting.
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>>58887935
Illima seems relevant now with M-Kang but is also a guy
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>>58887930
What do you have to offer?
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>omg the new alolan muk is just what we needed BatChest
>no one's playing it

>Finally greninja's reign is over with poncho!
>no ones playing it
heh,
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This is cool art, what’s ur favourite ex grabs so far?
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Reeeee I didn’t ask for this
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>>58887917
I'm just waiting for Groudon to make Fighting good. Failing that, Mega Ray to make Dragon good. Failing even that, a Salazzle resurgence. Salazzle EX that inflicts Burn/Poison/Sleep and has an ability that prevents status healing by retreating.
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>>58887950
literally anyone with a functional frontal lobe could have told you (and probably did) those cards would be trash. bo1, no side deck, 20 card decks. there's no fucking room for niche counter cards in a game like this.
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>>58887950
>Poncho doesn't even work in the active
It's so blatantly intentionally bad lol
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>>58887935
this happened to me, I was close to just get immersive Lillie and got her, so I decided to just keep going for Guzma,
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>>58887952
Time to goon
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>>58887952
Grimer's looking right at it, no wonder he has Pound.
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>rags had to put rempe out there to try to injury people
kwab
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>best kang deck is greninja slop
I AM SO TIRED
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>>58888059
whoops this is not /hoc/
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>>58888067
the frog and bird were a mistake
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[good news] this is the most varied meta we have ever had and it's not even close
[bad news] greninja is still a complete terrorist
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>>58888112
blaming the frog when the water dog is the one at fault.
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>>58887950
>1 card in the entire type can generate dark energy specifically (Hydreigon, for itself)
>1 card in the entire type can transfer dark energy (Tyranitar, to itself)
>1 card in the entire Trainer cardlist says "dark Pokemon" (Dark Pendant, targets Opponent's hand)
>1 card in the entire Trainer cardlist says "Muk" (Koga, doesn't work with Alolan Muk)
That's what you have to keep in mind when using Alolan Muk at the moment, there's not much support for it and you have to find some niche cards to work with, like Dawn, or wait for more than 1 Dark type trainer card.
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Your new meta, sirs
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>>58888067
The real problem with greninja is rare candy but pocket players aren't ready for that convo
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>>58888150
Thanks, I hate it.
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>>58888150
>normal chingling
crown chingling when?
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>>58888151
WIthout the candy stage 2 decks will go back to being unplayable because the work of properly evolving a pokemon all the way isn't really worth it if you're not named Magneton or Ivysaur.
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wow, this deck is actually doing really well for me.
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>>58888191
Pringles jello is a decent card looking for a chunky boy that's actually good.
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>>58888150
Yup, I fought once against it with while testing M-Mawile and I hate it.
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>>58888128
3 energy 70 damage move was never going to work unless the ability on the pokemon said, you win the game at the start of your next turn.

Being a stage 1 just makes it worse. Right now it's simply a bench mon for the ability and not something you ever want to actually use. It's absolutely a side deck piece for games 2 and 3 for dark decks to shut down the yellow bird, but Bo1 makes that a useless argument.
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>>58886089
I have a sightseer but oak is ugly
What else you got
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>>58888150
What beats this deck?
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>>58886409
If this did more damage
Like 180-200
MAYBE
MAYBE you could meme with it.
But fuck man 140 fucking misses kills on like everything. And the "cannot attack" next turn is actually bullshit.
By the time this is online, something like mega blaziken has dealt out 260 damage.
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Anyone been using this? i see potential
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>>58888268
So does this work if you've already used a supporter for the turn?
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>>58888268
>draw 2 cards, your opponent gains 1 point
I'm not so sure.
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>>58888243
A strong faith.
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>>58888268
the new meowth is better in every way imaginable, really
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>>58888268
>this is your only pokemon
>use effect
>opponent only has Ilima
>forced to bounce smeargle, lose instantly
Funny stuff
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Someone has a good "12 or more cards from FP" deck right
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>>58888308
Uhhh I'm sure you could do something with tyrunt line?
>fossilx2
>tyruntx2
>tyrantrumx2
>sightseerx2 (tyrunt is a stage 1)
>popsiclex2
>I dunno, 2 stadiums or something? Mega kang? Something else for stage 1s with sightseer?
There's 12.
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>>58888330
You could run 2x Meowth and coin flip your way to success while building up Tyrantrum.
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>>58888335
That works.
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>tfw used the lucky ice pop 7 times in a row
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Anyone want to trade 3-diamond tyrantrum for either buzzwole or lugia? all from latest pack
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>>58888462
I'm offering the buzz and lugia btw, should've stated clearer
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>>58887062
>>58887116
the may sleeve and board look hella cool... or am i simply blinded by gen 3 nostalgia?
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>>58887062
>gardi items
>already used my free weeks
Goddammit
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>>58888468
They're nice, but I personally would never use it
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>>58887062
>free goomy items
>free toxtricity items coming up
damn it feels good to be a slightly more niche pokemon fan
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neat
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>>58885473
Seems like Goona is the most meta relevant FA card, and why it stands out on Hub as being sought after
I'm lucky I pulled one already and don't have to trade for it
Only 7 more cards to go and I'll have all the pre-Parade FAs
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>need to change deck because meme bird exists
wake me up when set A rotates
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Obstagoon seems good but idk why the fuck people are using it with mega absol and ching ling. They copy and pasted the hydriegon list its so lazy. Dump the absol and run cleffas
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>>58888268
Its random, you dont get to pick the supporter
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Traded my rainbow ogerpon for rainbow kanga. Open my daily pack immediately. Got a second rainbow Kanga. I feel kind of bummed i wasted so much shinedust but at the same time a spare Kanga could get me almost anything
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>>58888632
It could even give you a Rainbow Ogerpon.
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>people trading out their rarest trainers for fotm FAs
>except oak
the unc can't be stopped
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>>58888679
>have extra limited Lillie
>Know I can trade for whatever, mostly
>My favorites still dont have Rainbow or already have them
but yeah an Oak would be neat
Im more interested in trading the 2 extra Shiny Darkrai for some shinies I want
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I really hate how they held back on the greninja counter. Like holy shit dude, im glad i can win alot with magikarp now but it doesnt change the fact that all the best decks are still some variation of greninja
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>>58888776
her value has fallen a lot since the expansion dropped, unfortunately I don't have much I want to trade
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>>58888679
ill trade my Oak when Hilda is out.
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>>58888832
You won't need to lol, you can just trade anything on a lower tier. He'll continue to be in his own tier until they release professor's research (female)
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>>58888561
I just looked to try to trade for a Tyrantrum both 3 diamond or 1 star, idc which I just need two copies and everyone is asking obstagoon.
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If anything Marnie will break the stonks value
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>>58888561
Also are you looking for FA Magerna? I could maybe part with my copy for a Tyrantrum
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>>58888974
Poké-God willing.
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New thread:
>>58888981
>>58888981
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>>58888977
I don't have that card, but thanks for the offer

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