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anyone else feel like display boards are whatever now since people can trade 2 star FAs and are not indicative of how hard someone paid money into their collection?
i used to be wowed when going through community showcases, but not anymore.
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>>58892446
I've never really cared about them
>before
"Wow this guy is either super lucky or such a virgin that he spent money hunting these"
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"Wow this guy is either super lucky, such a virgin that he spent money hunting these, or traded for them"
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so when's the next water set?
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>>58892439
I think I might give up on trying to collect all the 1 stars, especially since dena put 24 in ONE booster. yes obviously you can trade but the trading apps awful. once something starts feeling like a job and you have to deal with the general public I lose all motivation.
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>>58892458
Yes, people being selective with display boards have always been more interesting to me
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>>58892446
I kind of feel the same way but at least there's binders full of gold cards to be impressed by still.
The worst part about community showcase is how only the newest binder and display board show up, so a lot of interesting themed binders and boards don't appear at all.
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>Trying out Tyrantrum where I get fucking nothing all day
>Hop off to another deck because it's been a waste of time
>Opponent(s) keep getting Rampardos by turn 2
FAGGOTNIGGER GAME FOR NIGGERFAGGOTS
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This brainrotted Skankerino needed to search up to 6 cards, 4 is just too low to make an impact...
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wtf is even the point of all these ribbons if they're all just fucking recolors? You have access to the 1k+ fucking mascot creatures and the best you can do is fucking recolors of the same fucking ribbon design a billion times? Scrolling through my """"emblem""""" collection is so fucking sad. Make each ranked season themed after a fucking mon. Blaziken Cup, with a special Blazien themed emblem, and even a promo art for getting Masterball so that it's actually fucking worth something more than just a shitty recolor of the same ribbon we already have 20 copies of and an extra fuckin pack of cards. You've got over a thousand of these fucks to work with so there's no shortage of leagues you can theme this way. But no, makin too much money for that, huh?
AND STOP FUCKING ASKING ME TO PICK THE IMAGE WITH EXACTLY 2 5 POINT STARS, FUCK YOU MOOT.
>>58892589
Agreed. Even trying to run her in an Eevee deck, I find myself picking up 2 Eevee Bags and 2 Eevee instead of an EX. At least she shuffles after so if your next 4 cards were that bad you get a hail marry that the 1st stage got shuffled to the top.
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>Put Poncho on a card
>Get Sabrina'd anyway
What were they thinking when they made it gold? They must have thought something was going to be OP but wasn't like Mega Blastoise.
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>>58892644
There's some fun decks that use Magneton and Giratina ex to generate energy then move them all to Blissey or Celebi ex to do massive damage. I've also seen a Drifblim variant that uses Fantina instead of Giratina.
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I only need three 3D cards and I'll be done with the A series boosters for now. Anybody who has one of these and is willing to help an anon out, I'd be happy to provide any 3D cards you're currently looking for if I happen to have them.
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LF:
GA Gengar (3 Diamond)
STS Rhyperior (3 Diamond)
CG Primarina (3 Diamond)
Offering:
~95 various 3Ds from all the sets, not practical to list them all obviously. Just don't ask for Blaziken or Typhlosion, my autism compels me to hoard those.
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>>58892674
I have a feeling that, because the sets are made months in advance, the design team legitimately assumes these cards will be meta changing. But they sometimes miss their mark. We also saw fucking Crawdaunt of all fucking Pokemon get a fucking FA. They thought the energy trash on it was probably going to be a real pain in the ass but in practice it's just too slow and clunky to actually make a dent. They're usually on the mark, cause they obviously design some cards to be obviously over/undertuned but sometimes you get a "that's right, it goes into the square hole" scenario where the pieces just don't flow into the user experience as planned.
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>>58892693
>Crawdaunt FA
I don't think FAs have any meta significance at all. Sure, some of the pushed cards in a set will have them but the majority of FAs across every pack are unevolved basic mons or shitters that were obviously unusable even at the time.
Mostly I just want items to stop being crown rares, Poke Ball was fine because it's iconic, Candy was pushing it and all the others have felt like a complete waste of the rarity slot in their respective decks.
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I find it funny how Skarmory, Mawile and Steelix counters Kang.
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>retreat 50 HP Giratina for 1 energy Celebi
>end turn without putting energy on Celebi, keep charging the non weakened Giratina
>he can attack Celebi for free
>but theres a shiny delicious 0 energy low health ex Cyrusbait on the bench
>he bites
>now as long as he doesn't put an energy on Indeedee I should have a good chance of winning on the following turn
>just waiting for him to 50 damage Giratina with Mewtw-
>he swaps in Mega Gardevoir
>holy mackeral snagged me a fuckin whale with this bait
>KOs Giratina and only charges Mewtwo
>Celebi goes in
>Juggler
>1 energy turns into 10
>swing for 500
It's actually working every fucking time, the Celebi getting the energy doesnt even need to be in play before the turn it attacks and I can use another Celebi with Leaf Cape and Starting Grounds (tankier than Giratina with 180HP) just to sit in active while I charge bench for the next Celebi with Magneton and Giratina. Even just now I had a Guzzlord deck throwing out Team Rocket Grunts on the Celebi that was never the threat.
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>hmm let's try the emblem matches before I finish my break
>absolute cancer of a deck with mega absol, chingling and greninja
>still fuck him up with mega swampert
Feels good
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>>58892707
I meant the FA in the DX pack - which definitely have significance over the run of the mill FAs. All of the others are either meta staples or heavy fanservice shillmon like Gardevoir (who, at one point, was a meta staple anyway so kinda counts).
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>stadium card that prevents bench sniping
>yfw greninja-suicune chads just roll the training grounds stadium and almost always get it with legendary pulse
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this is why we need a ban list or set rotation.
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>>58892820
What you are looking for is this particular stadium, which would shut down the frog until they can throw up their own stadium.
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>ogerpon ex wp is at the same place after shuffle
>find another ogerpon ex coincidentally in the same place as the previous one
>it also didn't move after shuffle
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>>58892823
leaf cape is a gamble and a half but so is the whole deck so i like your style, thanks
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That’s how you beat mawile ex
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Im glad that i was able to win this game, but wow poncho doesn’t work on the active spot? For what purpose? My gyarados knocked out the active suicune back to back with red and a stadium but the fact i was still eating greninja pings is so stupid. They refuse to nerf this frog in any meaningful way even if you design your deck to counter it
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>>58893158
nah, it's just because obstagoon is shit even with piers. conditional 120 for 2 is utter trash compared to hydreigon's 130 for 1.
>go first with obstagoon
>soonest you can do 120 with it is turn fucking 7 because it's only doing 60 turn 5
>meanwhile hydreigon can just run away with the game turn 3
there's really no comparison. obstagoon having a horrible matchup into hydreigon is just the icing.
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Still not convinced obstagoon is bad, people just run it in a terrible deck. As for hydriegon like yeah no shit the playerbase all decides to stop running chingling and guess what greninja and the stupid dark dragon are now free to fuck shit up
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>>58893249
Probably double cleffa instead of double chingling. It makes no sense to run double chingling, its not helping you thin out your deck. Hydriegon is like the 2nd best deck, arguably under suicune. You’re making it sound like the bare minimum
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>>58893257
>run cleffa to make it even worse against the top deck
amazing idea.
and yes, it IS the bare minimum. it has to be better than hydreigon because they're both dark type stage 2 attackers. if it's not, there's literally no reason to ever use it because not only is it just a worse hydreigon, it's also really bad INTO hydreigon which would be a coinflip matchup if you were just running your own hydreigon.
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>>58893257
chingling gets ran because it does damage which gets your obstagoon going
plus yknow the disruption against enemy decks
cleffa doesnt do any damage so your obstagoon will only do 60 on the first attack unless you wait an extra turn for darkrai ping
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>>58893293
You have darkrai and rocky helmet to do indirect damage still. And getting up obstagoon faster means you have more opportunity to use piers. Idk why you are so fucked on hydriegon, its always been broken and makes every deck obsolete if it high rolls turn 3 or 4.
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>no reason to play blah blah
its a card game that you play for fun everyone always players other options as long as they still have a chance. This is a fact you retard, its why people hate greninja we want to see more decks other than greninja slop.
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chingling rapes hydriegon so its tier 0 deck now, no reason to play it.
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>new set drops
>battling is fun for about 2-3 days while people figure out new cards and decks
>meta gets solved
>everyone copy/pastes whatever the new top decks are
>spend the next month battling the same braindead meta decks over and over
Same as it ever was
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>>58893303
you cant get darkrai ping until your third energy turn and doing that cucks you out of building a second obstagoon
helmet is unreliable as well
and piers just really isnt all that good, so many decks can easily field an attacker with 1 extra energy and doing that means you need to have both obstagoons and both piers to stall 1 turn with him
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>>58893303
if you're deflecting to it being a petdeck you've already admitted defeat. any random shitdeck is playable and can get wins, obstagoon is objectively a bad choice and no amount of mental gymnastics can make it "good" when hydreigon exists and does the same aame thing but better.
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>>58893331
Alright faggot then i guess anything that doesn’t win pocket mads weekly tourney is dogshit. Funny enough hydriegon usually falls short and never wins its always suicune. By your own logic if anything can win then why do you give so much of a shit? I didn’t even claim goon was magically broken just that i wasn’t convinced it was bad yet. Kangkaskhan has been doing awful recently and im not convinced its bad either, its not even a week into the set.
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I'm looking for
-Blacephalon EX
-Mega Kangaskhan EX
-Chesnaught
-Hearthflame mask Opergon
-Guzzlord
-Aurorus
-Aegislash
-Lugia
All from Fantastical parade
I got for trade:
-Gigalith EX
-Mega Mawile EX
-Toxtricity EX
-Roserade
-Swampert
-Zapdos
-Gourgeist
-Cornerstone Mask Opergon
-Yveltal
-Swellow
-Tornadus
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>>58893347
anon goon is just plain bad
its not like blaziken where some tech can be discovered because blaziken had no real competition in the fire ex department besides stokezard who was a whole different playstyle and infernape who it directly powercrept
fire didn't have an established setup for blaziken to iterate on so people went with entei and then realized it didnt work and moved to heatmor
but the fact is that any tech cards and setups you could do with goon have already been tried with hydra since it's been super meta for multiple sets now
it isnt different enough from hydra to actually matter
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Do other card games boil down to one card? Like literally 1 card. I cannot experience a game of pocket that isn’t just LOL cyrus. Just fucking remove the retreat button at this point, god damn. It really is just cyrus players, and so many decks are just reliant on bench snipes.
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>lost a match to mega kanga because he rolled about 5 heads on ice pop enough to heal him full with irida
well that was his only way out because i wouldve won next turn, he also seemed to have 1 kanga because pokeball failed
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I've really come to despise the emblem events becuase of how ridiculous the EOM is during them. I played 20 games, went first 17 times, opened the wrong basic 15 times, and lost because both copies of my ex were literally the last 2 cards in the deck 6 times.
It's comically rigged.
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>>58893353
Adding you, I have lugia, want swampert (3D)
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>>58893483
Sent
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Thx, if you have more stuff you want to trade, feel free to send another trade.
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>>58893420
Nah, Cyrus is fine. Just today I played against M-Absol Hydreigon, and of course I started with my only Cyrus in opening hand, so he discarded it as soon as he got to attack. Still won, even though he succeeded in all of his coinflips.
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>>58893555
2Stars for sure but if you can trade for it then really you'd be setting your sights on a "Chase" Card
But it really depends on the pack you're pulling from
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>heals over 200 damage with lucky ice pops, pcls, and potions
>still loses
lmao why do people still try to make this rerarded deck work
let it go bro
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>>58893561
The current set. I wanted to get Piers but it's such a niche card since it only works with Obstagoon and if I get bored of playing it then it'll feel like a waste. Maybe I'll just wait and see what people want.
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eldeglossbros float up
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>>58893606
I don't think anything FPwise been truly "solved" yet because the buff(s) to previous decks are still being tried out. The set is still fairly new so yeah just give it some time for now.
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>>58893732
Well let's take a look the other Eeveeshitters:
>Punishing Energy ramp-80
>Self-Chip Flame Patch-130
>Healing 30 on anything-80
>Cyrus-80
>Actual Grass ramp-70
>10pings on a Poison timer-90
>Oak-70
I mean with babby Vape already being a top-benchmon in the past I can't imagine where you go from there without flat-out providing some bullshit like Water ramp from itself
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>>58893750
>Not wanting Shinedust
Uh oh, stinky
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Anyone have an M-Kang to trade? All I have to trade is an M-Gard.
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I think they want me to try out swampert
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>>58893888
checked
but TGD will be enacted yet again god willing
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>>58893888
I tried the new Mega Blaziken rental deck in expert random battles andlose in all three battles.
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based jpGOD
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>>58894158
Me >>58894117
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I have a shiny sylveon id like to trade for a shiny espeon ex. Tried the apps but got a bunch of the same exact reply immediately and Id rather give the sylveon to someone who appreciates it rather than some bot scalper or whatever. I have other stuff im willing to trade too but im only mentioning sylveon cuz its my most valuable shiny ex. If i dont get a reply here ill just give it to the bots i really want my green cat.
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How much of a dicklet gook do you have to be to play this mega absol deck in the emblem event
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>>58894292
why do you keep trying to ditch may bro
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not to sound like a whiny bitch, but wow i don't think I can take another set with meta greninja. Everytime I try to come up with a new deck. i mentally think to myself oh shit i'm gonna have to que into a frog deck probably I don't feel like it. Poncho is such a monkey's paw, they gave us a "counter" that is functionally useless into 90% of other decks.
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>>58894320
I have 3 extra ones. I'm stocking some cards to trade for cards I eventually want, like Mega Lucario. I'm not sure if getting rid of a May is the right choice, but it's done now. I still have 2 spares. Hopefully Lucario is a RR in the CharX set.
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which lusamine art looks better
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>>58894509
want any of this?
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trying to get a shiny gardevoir out of people have got to be one of the harder things in this game
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I finally got salamence to "work" by just running him with magnezone
I initially tried juggler but never used it once in 10 games, so I swapped it for cyrus
It's not great, but if you really want to use salamence, like me, it has performed better for me than the ho-oh/baby variants that I tried
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>>58894714
Eh I've tried the same idea with Mega Steelix ex and several other high energy cards previously but it was very hit or miss, especially on double Stage 2 versions where deck space and consistency become a problem. Magnezone didn't actually synergize with whatever other cards it's working with, it's just self sufficient meatshield
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>>58894678
If you have a shiny vileplume I’ll give you one of my three shiny voirs
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>>58894730
It's a meatshield but a meatshield that ramps itself and does respectable damage
It can usually stall enough time for mence to come in and kill anything afterwards too
I would've thought the two stage 2 lines would be a problem, but it somehow works itself out
Compared to ho-oh, which either needs babies (letting opponent 1-2 point win) or starting raw ho-oh (who might not even survive to attack and still has to charge a basic, so you risk holding on bagon for too long), this is the best I can come up with for salamence
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>>58894737
i ended up getting her for an oricorio
happy with my binder now
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>Add Meowth to deck
>Enter a 5 win streak (even against this Hydreigon)
Dangerously based
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>>58894875
nah don't think so
i used poketrade like what some anons suggested last thread due to web browser support, just sign up with a google mail account and type in ID / FC and go around bugging people
at the barest minimum poketrade has an active base of 7k players. grabbed the numbers off pulling wishlisted numbers for a FA trainer like diantha.
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what can I get for this useless bitch
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>poison barb nihilego darkrai pichu mega kanga
I don't know if I like this game
Or if I ever even liked it
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109107th pack, first 2-star. Fucking christ.
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>Fossils
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Do the Shinedust rewards count for getting wins through event screen specifically or just in-general wins?
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>>58895126
Generally no, but sometimes it can be game winning to remove their tool and klefki is a searchable tool removal whereas Guzma just has to be randomly drawn.
Plus it's discard, that doesn't trigger points I thought? Same thing as fossils right?
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What can you do with Mimikyu ex? You obviously can't build a deck around it but it should slot somewhere into a deck, I'm just not sure what.
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>>58895102
You can do it in general wins, not specifically the event battles. I got this progress by battling my alt in private battles.
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>>58895223
Yes they're even in the most recent set in physical
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>have 1 free pack to open because i logged on last night
>decide to log on anyways just while i do something in the background
>had literally nothing remotely good so far
Lyra last week, now this. I have become a B grade waifu collector but i will take it.
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A more useless bitch? Would you like my diantha or lyra xD
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Bruh
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I just traded my ugly rainbow border Crawobinable for a rainbow border Garchomp, I can't believe that I ran into someone that wanted that crap, normally the only trade offer for it is literally one japanese weirdo offering a Portuguese Rainbow border Crawobinable.
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>>58895135
Every Swampert I fought has always self destructed the match eating its own points. Twice with cpu missions, and the singular time I ever saw someone trying to run it in pvp. It doesn't even feel like they thought it'd warrant the crutch when they made it
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The ideal situation is there being a billion energy on the other side so the chance of Swampert eating itself is minimized, thing is games like those are super rare these days. They could've made it so it only eats the opponent's energy and it still wouldn't have been meta.
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>analyze current set luck at 80 packs
>Your crown card luck is pretty average.
>Your three star card luck is pretty average.
>Your two star card luck is bad!
>Your one star card luck is terrible!!!
>Your EX card luck is really bad!!
>Everyone is reporting the same
They lowered the rates, nobody can convince me otherwise
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This!
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bumping again, all I need at this point is the 3-diamond GA Gengar.
Here's what I have available from B Series packs. Happy to look at any A series too, but I figured people might be most interested in recent packs:
>MR
Chingling
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Venusaur, Charizard, Magnezone, Genesect, Porygon-Z
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Buzzwole, Water Ogerpon, Tyrantrum, Spiritomb, Tornadus
>>58893813
sorry m8, I'd go for it if I had 1 extra typh but I need the one I have to maintain my SoulSilver team display board
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>>58895971
Law of Large Numbers meets Confirmation Bias.
I'm at 8/10 ex at 78 packs opened, no dupes.
People are just more used to complain when they have bad luck than to state they're having good luck, which skews the perception.
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GOD PACK?
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Dont wanna sound like a complainer but how did this meta go from promising to somehow more constrictive? It feels like anything i make will get owned by hydriegon. Ive been just playing magnezone and oricorio because its as balanced as it gets. Poncho was close but the more i use it the more annoying it gets, why does it not protect in the active spot? It could be totally worth running if it saved you from ability damage (darkrai and greninja) or even rocky helmet damage. Can they just print really strong grass fighting and electric types already? Those types have been starving for something new and good.
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>>58896203
Because to the surprise of absolutely no one Hydreigon is still the fastest killer in the meta and Greninja still fits into every deck. The old good cards are still here and they're either piss-scared to print busted new stuff or have no idea about what makes a card good.
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Darkrai/Weavile works so well with some of the newer cards like training area
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Oh did we overlook chandelure?
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>>58896401
>Draw 2 cards per turn instead of 1
>120 Damage for 2 energy
>Pairable with Misty and Irida
>Basic Pokemon
Honestly what the fuck where they thinking?
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>>58896411
mean to reply to >>58896406
the gamefiles are more difficult to track I'd guess
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>>58896384
>Win 5 in a row
>Woah this deck is insane! Time to send it to my favourite goytuber!
>Lose 5 in a row
>WTF THIS GAME IS RIGGED AGAINST ME SOMEBODY SEARCH THE GAMEFILES!
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holy fuck lmao
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>>58896203
>Fagnezone
>Balanced
>Lightning needing anything
Holy fucking retard cry more like godamn, the type plays itself for you & you STILL can't pull wins? Godamn you must actually suck
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>>58896414
at least they didn't give Raikou ex and Entei ex the same attack, like the cards they're based on.
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I play a deck once then never use it again so it has a 100% win rate for the rest of the game's life.
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>Tyrantrum looked promising but LMAOfossils
>Back to SoloVenu to get anything going
Sigh aother season of this shit...
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Gard seems kinda bad. Even though its immortal and my jolteons cant ko it, its forced to supply energy to the bench which lets me win with cyrus.
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>>58896521
Playing tyrantrum can be a pain cause rng but how come that never applies to rampardos?
They always top deck everything they need without fail
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>>58896556
Your energy generator being a stage 2 mega is not great. 110 also isnt a great damage number so you don’t one shot anything. I think the mewtwo version is close to being good, but he get dies to hydriegon lol
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>>58896556
>this card is bad because this one specific card is a perfect counter to its playstyle
Dumb, by that logic jolteon is bad because I can bully it with sandslash of all cards
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>>58896572
Most of them aren’t strong enough. Like for example look at aerodactyl, for a stage 1 ex its not particularly strong at all. Only 80 damage, below average hp, and good ability. Evolving your fossil should be way more rewarding since its such a liability and cant be searched. Archeops in particular is hilariously bad, a stage 2 that does only 20 damage across the active spot and bench which is awful unless you get it turn 2.
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>>58896572
>fossil researcher
>supporter that adds 3 random fossils from your deck to your hand,return one to the deck, afterwards
or maybe
>rejuvenation device
>literally just quick-grow extract for fossils
How'd I do?
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>>58896582
I’m not actually calling jolteon bad, it’s obviously good, but a hard counter to those specific playstyles doesn’t make them bad
Don’t think you’d want to argue that hydreigon and suicune/greninja are actually bad because jolteon exists right?
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>>58896572
The first iterations of Fossils in the original TCG had it so if you KO the fossil it doesn't count as a prize. I have a feeling that would make them a bit better to use.
Still would need a search engine for them.
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>>58896604
Also, they would count for every fossil in the set, although that was just Omanyte, Kabuto and Aerodactly.
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>>58896608
For the Gen 3 fossil mons, they split each mon requiring a different fossil. But the 3 from Gen 1 still used a generic "Mysterious Fossil" card.
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>>58896614
It wasn't until Gen 4 where fossils started to count as a prize when KO.
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>>58896617
Then, Gen 5 changed it completely to be like this instead of a pseudo-pokemon card.
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>>58896622
Gen 7 made them generic cards that worked like Basics for every fossil mon again, instead of each one having their own fossil card.
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>>58896572
>Digging Duo
>Find up to 3 Fossil Cards, Placing any of them on your Bench. However for every Fossil Card you put back in your deck instead, move 1 Fighting Energy onto your Fossil(s) in any way you like.
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>>58896628
And now they're split again.
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>>58896543
they missed their chance of including this card in the set with Amaura and Tyrunt
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Ok sightseerer is dogshit, fuck this card its a total down grade over May. Its game losing when you waste a turn using it over copy cat or oak, god dammit. 3 times in a row it failed to get me what i needed in my jolteon deck
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This deck might be the secret sauce, modern pocket is full of low hp basics
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>>58896798
You can find it on limitless tcg >>58896775
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